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WarRoom Battleground EP 537: The Satanic Ritual of Eurovision
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natalie winters
I don't know what we just watched.
Welcome to the War Room.
It's Natalie G. Winters.
I am hosting today, Friday, May 17th in the year of our Lord 2024.
I'm glad it's a Friday here in the War Room.
Sorry to make you guys watch that.
But luckily, in a bit, we'll have Joe Allen joining us to walk through what is the degeneracy, I think that's a fair word to say, of Eurovision.
I would say it's a toss-up.
I don't know what's more degenerate, the House Oversight Committee last night and the exchange between Rep Crockett and MTG and all those people, or what Eurovision has descended into.
I think maybe Eurovision comes out supreme.
I would just add, before we bring Joe in, As much as we like to mock the deranged cultural lunacy of the far left, these are serious matters, right?
That Eurovision clip that we just played coming on the heels of news, what was it, just a week ago?
That the global birth rate has plummeted to record lows, of course, here in the United States, seeing that same fate, too.
I think that was about two weeks ago, but you have to understand, and I'm sure you guys I know this very well, that all of these converging forces work together.
We were talking on this morning show, Steve and I, about the reason the left works in lockstep on all these issues is because they're being funded and bankrolled by the same very bad actors.
I'm sure President Trump would call them bad hombres.
And I know we focus a lot on the political ramifications of it.
Of course, my new story on poll workers, and we focus a lot on George Soros, but there are a lot of these far-left NGO types that, just like they're behind all these weird ballot measures and this weird electioneering and the mail-in ballots and the pandemic prevention stuff, they're also full-scale in on the culture wars, too, of course, propping up, whether it's the feminist movement, the transgender stuff, and frankly, what you're seeing, what you just witnessed, right, that, like I said, pure degeneracy, degradation of Eurovision.
As an example, right, as sort of the outputs of that industrial grant-making machine that is epitomized, whether it's the New Venture Fund, Arabella Advisors, the Rockefeller Foundation, right, all these same groups that also fund pandemic prevention are also so intent on creating social policies that are destroying not just the American birth rate, but the global birth rate.
They're all concerned about overpopulation, all these far-left climate change narratives.
It really makes you think when you hear trust The experts, I would say that's the largest PSYOP ever perpetrated on the American people because the experts have an agenda and that agenda, frankly, I think to be blunt, is anti-humanity, right?
They don't care about the human race continuing.
They just want to cut carbon emissions and And all that, and I guess prevent pandemics, that's the most important thing.
Joe Allen, someone who tracks all these individuals, of course, more so on the artificial intelligence front.
I wish what we were watching, I wish that were AI, but unfortunately it's very real life.
I'll just toss to you, what did we just watch?
Why is it important that we talk about this here in the War Room?
joe allen
Natalie, good evening.
There's an old saying that Andrew Breitbart is credited with, that politics is downstream of culture.
And I would add to that that culture is downstream from religion.
And much of what we see in the world today, in the culture, is a religious war, a spiritual war.
And what I tried to capture with that, you know, a lot of people have seen these clips from the recent Eurovision, it's kind of a song contest, each country, Submits a song and a performer and it's a way for it's sort of like Cultural Olympics.
Well as you can see there the culture has taken a marked shift towards You know kind of weird I don't even know if you would call it transgender at this point when you've got dudes in lingerie and beards So what I would like the audience to really understand is this is really not new.
You know, there's the old legend of Robert Johnson, the blues guitarist, who reputedly met the devil at a crossroads and sold his soul and able to be able to play the guitar so well.
And, you know, of course that is a legend, right?
But I think that it really does capture what we've seen.
You know, rock and roll, as much as everyone loves it, is without a doubt the devil's music.
And it's, again, it's nothing new.
The sort of cultural transformation began arguably in the 20s with the flappers, and it's only progressed from there.
But instead of having, you know, girls dancing around with bobs, We now have, well, dudes dancing around with bobs.
And, you know, just one last point on that.
You said you wished you could have just watched creepy videos on artificial intelligence.
You know, I couldn't resist adding that last one.
You know, artificial intelligence, techno, the sort of mass culture with everyone watching a show through their smartphone, this is the new mode.
And it's only going to get weirder from here.
So I think anyone who really wants to understand where we're at has to look at the culture.
And if they want to understand the culture as it stands now, they have to understand what they're watching is spiritual warfare.
What they're a part of is spiritual warfare.
natalie winters
I'm sure the audience and I know we tend to skew probably a little bit older, not necessarily Gen Z, but they're probably watching this stuff.
And frankly, I always joke that I'm a boomer at heart.
I'm like, do people actually like this?
Is this mainstream culture?
Who's watching that and thinking, wow, this is what I aspire to be.
This is so amazing.
I want to watch this in my free time.
Put simply.
Is this actually popular with younger generations in mainstream culture, or is it sort of, for lack of a better word, you know, astroturfed, right?
Like, this is being pushed on us, whether it's NGOs, corporations, big tech people, foreign governments, like, whatever the variable may be.
Like, how did we end up here?
joe allen
It's a long and twisted story, but I should really say up front, Natalie, that I too am a spiritual boomer.
You know, I take shots at boomers all the time, but without a doubt, my sensibilities are much more like theirs than even, you know, the millennial Gen X place that I stand, and certainly the Zoomers.
So most of my working life was spent in arenas rigging shows, whether it be rock shows, rap
shows, country shows, cage fighting, whatever.
Most of it, though, was music, and so I spent a lot of time absorbing the pop culture, at
least as it is expressed in the large arena and large stadium settings.
And it was really kind of like torture.
It was kind of like the movie A Clockwork Orange, where Alex has his eyes held open and is forced to watch things he doesn't want to see while being made sick.
What I found was, absolutely, people eat this up.
And also, absolutely, it is astroturfed.
So you have tons and tons of moneyed interests who are steering the culture in this direction.
You also have a lot of different NGOs and various institutes that are involved in funneling
money to kind of shift the culture, especially in regards to the kind of gay and lesbian
and transgender sorts of movements that we see right now.
The CIA has been involved in entertainment pretty much from the beginning.
And so you have all these different threads and they're not all moving in lockstep.
Some are moving the culture in a more rightward direction.
Some are moving it in a more leftward direction and some of them are just moving it far out.
But without a doubt, it's both astroturfed and it's very, very popular.
I think that that last part is the most important, because if you had the masses just simply reject it all, and say that this is degenerate, or this is satanic, or just this is extremely lame, and I can't stand it anymore, and just turn it off, well then it would have no power whatsoever.
But that's not what's happening.
People are seduced and easily seduced and I think that that is the real dynamic that has to be looked at is that it's not just simply being pushed from on high with people forced to absorb it.
People like it.
People like drugs.
People like free love.
People like Freedom, but if there's one lesson that I learned as a young man, being basically turned loose with full freedom to do whatever I wanted, is that that freedom quickly becomes slavery without some orientation to God, some orientation to a higher moral power.
And again, I think that's what we're seeing here.
This is the fruit of spiritual warfare.
natalie winters
You know, we talk obviously a lot on the show about mass migration, and I think there is something unique to the American spirit in that we love freedom.
I don't think we're, you know, easy to be programmed from the top down.
I think the War Room Posse is a testament to that.
I've always said, I think part of the reason, the Great Replacement Theory is real, right?
That's not a conspiracy theory.
The media matters can clip us again.
We're saying that, but I think they want to import people, frankly, don't even speak English, but who come from cultures where they're a lot easier to control, not just from the big corporation angle of it, right, the spending, they love increasing their profit margins, but they love importing from cultures that messages like this just go over easier with because they don't have that ingrained, amazing, revolutionary American spirit that when you hear people, whether it's, you know, the George Soros's of the world, the World Economic Forum's, the WHO's, we push back, right?
We don't just bend over and say, oh, pandemic treaty.
That sounds like a really great idea.
I want to cede all my health sovereignty to a globalist organization that I never elected to a bunch of so-called experts sitting over in Brussels.
Speaking, though, of the experts, I know they've really started to kind of re-up the censorship efforts when it comes to artificial intelligence in the election.
Apparently, that's the new big red flag when it comes to misinformation ahead of this forthcoming election as the resident misinformation.
I'm just curious, your thoughts on rolling out That narrative, if you think it's a credible threat, if so, how you think it'll play out?
Or is it one of these things that they're trying to trump up just to have, no pun intended, but a pretext to sort of roll out massive censorship?
joe allen
I think that the latter, the pretext for censorship, is probably the most destructive and dangerous force that you're talking about.
But the other is as well.
That's kind of the rock and the hard place that we find ourselves between, that you do have a real problem.
You know what?
You have a very old problem that's been with us since Cain and Abel, right?
Or even Adam and Eve.
That problem is BS.
That problem is the propensity to lie.
And the vulnerability to believe lies.
And people have been lying for time immemorial.
And media has given a lot of power to the ability to lie.
Media has given a lot of power to propaganda, right?
The old propaganda was spread word of mouth.
This new propaganda goes directly into your eyes and into your ears through machines.
The internet has glued people to their devices, and so they're that much more vulnerable to propaganda.
And because of the digital landscape, propaganda is that much more easily spread, and the results of that propaganda are that much more easily spread.
So you've got BS, you've got propaganda.
These are very old problems.
They'll be with us forever.
Now you have, on top of that, artificial intelligence.
Right now, for the most part, the first two are the biggest problems.
But you still have this growing, basically a growing ability,
and the growing kind of saturation of AI-generated material in the culture.
And so it is a real problem.
People are slipping into a kind of digital delusion.
However, the idea that the government is going to fix this, right?
It would be like the government is going to fix the problems of, you know, gay, transgender, rock and roll.
They're actually supporting it.
But it's not the kind of issue, right, that the government I think is suited to step in and take care of.
Anyone who's followed Mike Binns' coverage knows that the government's primary objective
is to annihilate any message that is against their agenda.
The real problem with this AI disinformation legislation or even just the executive orders
and the various agencies that are responding in ways that position AI and AI-generated disinformation
as a major, major threat to the elections, By and large, they're not worried about disinformation, and by and large, they're really not worried about the kind of high-level digital delusion that AI is going to render, ultimately.
What they're worried about is maintaining their position of power, their position of authority.
And so that sort of legislation while again I believe it's a real problem just like drugs are a real problem or even promiscuity is a real problem.
I don't think you can trust the government to fix these problems.
What you can expect is the government will use those problems to maintain their own power
and even to extend them.
And so that's the real threat as I see it, is handing the government more power on the
basis of an actual threat.
It's a rock and a hard place.
You have to have discernment.
You have to have backbone.
And you have to be able to dig your way out of this yourself.
natalie winters
Sort of two sides of the same coin.
But conversely, when you're looking at how they're going to roll out these these waves of censorship, whether it's social media, probably even in person, too, it seems like from from what I understand that there's some level of reliance on artificial intelligence.
I know the WHO sort of has been playing around.
Of course, you know, the infodemic is even worse than a pandemic.
And they've been partnering with these A.I.
social listening devices to try to discern what anti vaccine narratives are becoming popular.
I'm just curious how you think they will weaponize AI to make their censorship efforts much more robust and how the kind of inherent or ingrained biases obviously against President Trump within these mechanisms will probably lead to just even more heavy-handed censorship of shows like this and just the MAGA movement more broadly.
joe allen
I mean within the social media companies and the search engine companies you already have AIs or begin with algorithms and increasingly you have complex algorithms or artificial intelligence that's used to identify any sort of keyword or Or phrase or even a sentiment, even a tone that is undesirable.
And that allows very quickly to automatically kind of neutralize those voices, whether they be on social media or links on a search engine result page to either de-rank them, de-boost them or to silence them completely, to nuke their accounts, to disappear them, to scrub them from search results.
You also have similar algorithms, of course, with intelligence agencies that are scanning all of our communications all the time.
And so it's at this point, it's not perfect, it's not ironclad, but at this point you have
all of these different powerful forces that are able to deploy artificial intelligence
to basically scrape over all of these vast data sets and identify what is undesirable,
but also to identify what is desirable and to amplify it.
By the way, I mean, everyone does this.
The Republican Party or the Republican National Convention surely is utilizing, you know,
algorithms to gauge public sentiment in order to kind of tailor their message to the public
sentiment.
Every sort of organization that can afford it is doing this.
The problem is the more powerful the organization or the more impactful and powerful the platform, such as Twitter as it was before, or X as it is now, Facebook, so on and so forth, that you end up with this very kind of homogenous stew that you're able to whittle away that anything such as vaccine disinformation Or something such as hate speech, any of that sort of thing.
And you are able to basically kind of sculpt the public conversation and from there, sculpt the public consciousness by way of algorithms.
So whether it's the WHO, whether it's any of the major corporations that control much
or most of the popular culture, or whether it's the government itself, we're entering
into what our old buddy Klaus Schwab called the fourth industrial revolution.
And top among the different issues that need to be faced in this fourth industrial revolution
is the presence of decision-making artificial intelligence.
And the decisions range from what your kids should be educated with, what sort of decisions
your doctors are making or not making if the AI is completely in charge, and in warfare,
the decision who gets to live and who is going to die.
That expands across every element of culture and every institution, but of course, it's maybe most acutely felt Out here in the information landscape, they're able to use algorithms to sculpt public consciousness.
You have to be aware of it, you have to keep your spidey senses on alert, and you have to be able to make those sorts of decisions, to have the discernment, to kind of craft your own way, or you know, dig your own way through these reality tunnels.
natalie winters
Joe Allen, as always, thank you so much for joining us.
If people want to get the book, follow you, stay up to date with everything you're working on, where can they go to do all that?
joe allen
Well Natalie, the book Dark Aeon is an attempt at showing how this culture war is a spiritual war and how that spiritual war is manifesting in technology.
Dark Aeon, Transhumanism, and the War Against Humanity.
Get it anywhere books are sold.
I recommend bookshop.org, I recommend Skyhorse Publishing, or if you want to pay with your palm, go ahead and get to to the beast Amazon. You can also find my social media at J
O E B O T X Y Z and of course war room dot org. Thank you very much Natalie. Of course. I
natalie winters
don't know whether or not to say thank you or yikes for what you showed us in that cold
open but I guess it's better to be informed than naive about what they're pushing on us.
Joe Allen thank you so much.
unidentified
That's rock and roll. Yikes.
natalie winters
Well, speaking of a big yikes, if I were Peter Dalschack, that is what I would be saying, too, because you just lost all your federal funding, all your tax dollars, so you can't conduct your so-called pandemic prevention research efforts anymore.
I'm honored to be joined by Jeffrey Tucker, the president of the wonderful and esteemed Brownstone Institute.
I think you also write for the Epoch Times.
I see some of your stuff up there.
We've only got about two minutes before we've got to bounce for break, but I would just love, before we do that, overall, before we get into the Francis Collins stuff, the EcoHealth Alliance news, what is your assessment of the COVID Select Subcommittee thus far?
jeffrey tucker
We're making some progress, but it's slow.
And we have to also be aware that almost every bit of information that's coming out right now is a limited hangout, if you know what I mean by that.
We're getting the little admissions along the way as a way of preventing them from admitting the big truth.
And so, yeah, Daszak's going to be, his little organization EcoHealth is going to lose some percentage of its financing, maybe.
It's not as decisive as I want it to be.
And now we're seeing, you know, the admissions that there was never any science behind social distancing.
We're getting some admissions that, yes, NIH did fund a gain-of-function research, and it's going to be like this for years, I'm afraid, until we finally get the full truth.
I'm happy about what's happening, I suppose, but I wish it were more and sooner and it was more blunt.
natalie winters
Limited hangouts, a good way to phrase it.
Jeffery, if you can hang with us through the break, I have so many questions I want to ask you.
We could probably do shows for days with some of the news that's coming out of that committee, but I do agree with you.
I think a lot of their follow-up questions from the Francis Collins interview were not good.
Steve and I were talking about this on the show yesterday.
I think the only logical conclusion you would come to if they were lying about social distancing They were probably lying about everything else, including the mask mandates and the real Barry lead here, I think the efficacy of the vaccines.
Of course, we know they lied about the origins of COVID-19 too.
So now it's all about politicking and politicizing it.
And I think we need to be asking why now are they so comfortable coming?
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natalie winters
Welcome back to the War Room.
It's one of those days here where we don't necessarily want to be right.
I'm sure Jeffrey Tucker feels the same way.
We don't want to be vindicated, right, about what the globalists' plots and plans are, whether it's the pandemic treaty or the true origins of COVID or the lack of efficacy for the COVID-19 vaccine and mask mandates.
But unfortunately, for the sake of this country and frankly, the sake of humanity, we haven't proven right time and time again, so much so that the New York Times said we were the number one spreader of misinformation, particularly on the issue of COVID.
I'm still waiting for a retraction on that.
I won't hold my breath.
But Jeffrey Tucker, I am curious.
We obviously discussed yesterday on the show Francis Collins coming again from his interview With the COVID Select Committee, him not being able to point to a single shred of evidence that social distancing worked, he of course said, oh, well, the lab leak theory, yeah, I guess it could maybe be true, despite mounting a huge censorship effort, right, for anyone who dared to defy that mainstream narrative.
So I'm just curious, your thoughts kind of walking through the revelations from that testimony.
jeffrey tucker
Well, I don't see how they can keep the denials going.
And it's been going on for four years now that we've been fed a bunch of baloney.
And now, frankly, you know, the entire public public opinion is fed up, not just in the US, but all over the world.
Because don't forget, this is a global response.
Brownstone Institute held a retreat in Europe with a bunch of dissidents and I was amazed to find that we could all, we all had the same stories.
The six feet of distance, the plexiglass everywhere, the mask mandates, the preservation of the population from exposure through limits on gatherings in your home, cancellations of weddings and funerals, church, Holidays were just abolished by governments, not just in the U.S., but all over the world.
It really was a kind of a really frightening global central plan.
And then all to prepare for the vaccine rollout, which, you know, was supposed to be their magic bullet to fix everything.
But we learned very quickly that not only did it not stop transmission or infection, Uh, but that the harms of the new technology, the mRNA, which is what they had privileged, um, you know, were much greater than any other vaccine rollout in history by far.
So, you know, given this situation and the really the growing Public outcry all over the planet, something has to give.
So we're living in that moment now, right?
So they're throwing people under the bus randomly, pretending to cut people's budgets,
admitting a little bit of this, a little bit of that, all to preserve the big plan, which is, as you mentioned,
the World Health Organization Treaty, which is, again, an attempt to make us lock down
to prepare for another vaccine rollout based on mRNA technology.
And then now, we're seeing promises, like we did in the New York Times yesterday,
that we're going to use AI to discover whether or not your bar should be closed,
your restaurant should be closed, whether you should be told not to go to church,
whether you can have a house party or not.
In the future pandemics, we're going to be relying on AI to tell us this.
We're going to plug in zero prevalence levels, rates of transmissions, and hope that this idiotic machine is going to spit out an answer whether you have free enterprise or not, or the right to associate.
And along with this, of course, is universal censorship, which is getting worse and going on right now.
So, you know, the thing, Natalie, about all this is that for now, we're getting the word out.
And for now, people are discovering what a fraud it is.
The whole thing was, from the very beginning, and all the way through the last four years, So, it's a major problem for them because we've got the lying class and then we've got the truth-seeking class, basically, and it's a big battle between the two.
natalie winters
Before we pivot to the pandemic treaty stuff, and I know you guys over at Brownstone have really been doing a wonderful job of chronicling all the things that they hide behind.
They're always good at the branding, right?
The euphemistic spins on what they want to do.
But we know there's a much more sinister agenda and motive there.
But I think you bring up something, and Steve and I were focusing on this, too.
You know, like we always said, sure, sell out EcoHealth Alliance, right?
That's one organization.
But don't miss the forest for the trees, right?
There is an institutional rot, whether it's the NIH or all of these other kind of pandemic prevention organizations, right, that they're not actually engaged, nor do they care about public health.
It's all about power and control.
So just getting rid of EcoHealth Alliance, they want to make him the fall guy, some red meat for the base.
But there's something Much deeper and darker going on there, and frankly, I think there's a lack of drilling down on the COVID vaccines too, right?
You never really see that in any of the hearings or the testimony, what they're pushing out.
I would think the logical follow-up to Francis Collins admitting that there was no science to back up social distancing would be, well, what about the vaccine?
So I'm just curious, where do you think particularly on the COVID The control is truly hegemonic and it is global in weird ways.
Do you think Big Pharma, whatever you want to spin it as, has too much control, whether
it's over Congress, just from the lobbying and donations, that that committee is not
going to be able to get the truth out on that issue particularly?
jeffrey tucker
The control is truly hegemonic and it is global in weird ways.
Like, if you had told me 10 years ago that Big Pharma companies would basically own all
governments and media in the world.
I would have said you're a crazy person.
That could never happen.
How possibly could that happen?
But for all intents and purposes, that seems to be exactly what's happening.
And if you understand what I mean by that.
And it really does come down to this mRNA technology.
They had imagined this to be this platform technology, like an operating system of the human body, that they're going to print every malady known to man within 24 hours and then just give us shots to fix everything that's wrong with us.
Including cancer, you know, as we heard from the State of the Union address.
So they really want to preserve this mRNA to put us all on a subscription model and the subscription model of constant vaccines will be tied to a digital identity.
That was clearly the goal from the beginning.
Now there have been major setbacks, one of which is that the stupid shots didn't work as they promised, right?
So what do you do then?
The first thing that happened in 2021 was the withdrawal of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine in the U.S.
on grounds that it was causing blood clots.
That was, again, a limited hangout.
It's like, okay, let's throw these guys under the bus.
They're not using our preferred technology.
Now, fast forward three years later, and we're seeing the same thing happen with AstraZeneca.
We're getting a lot of attention for the injuries that were caused in the U.K.
And then also the US.
AstraZeneca was never approved here, but we did have trials and there were terrible injuries from those trials.
So that's getting some attention.
So AstraZeneca then pulls its shots from the market, you know, not because of the injuries.
Let's just be clear.
What they said was that it was because their formula had been deprecated, it pertained to Delta, the variant that it controlled, which it never did control, is now gone so there's no more reason for the shot.
So they had their little out.
Nonetheless, their head is on the platter.
But the goal of all this, it's a little bit of a psyop, is to somehow shield Moderna and Pfizer and mRNA technology in particular.
from this kind of public fury so that we go, oh, thank God the shots have been removed.
We got our way.
But meanwhile, Moderna and Pfizer are still riding high and mRNA technology is still being rolled out for every other purpose.
That's the idea.
I'm very curious whether it's going to work.
My sense is that it's not.
Because the anger is so intense.
Again, not just in the U.S., but all over the world, where vaccine mandates were everywhere.
It's this generation's version of conscription for the Vietnam War.
It really fired people up.
The people didn't need the shots.
Because most people were not at risk of any medically significant consequences from contracting or being exposed to COVID.
That's one thing.
So it wasn't necessary.
It didn't stop infections.
People got infected.
In fact, we have lots of studies showing that the more shots you got, the more likely you were to get COVID, which is just something unbelievable.
that didn't stop transmission, which is in a technical sense means that it did,
didn't, made no real contribution to the obtaining of herd immunity, which is what you need to get
out of a panic. So on those three scores, it was a fail.
And then you add to that all the injury that resulted from it, which is very substantial. And, you
know, you can read the New York Times every day telling you, oh, well, yes, it's really sad.
There are some injuries. And the New York Times had a big article about this the other day, the very
first one in four years, you know, saying that, oh, and get this, Natalie, they said that we
hadn't written about this.
In the past, because of the anti-vaxx movement, it was making it very difficult to talk openly and honestly about this right.
So they blame the anti-vaxxers.
And by the way, if you have any doubts about the shots at all, even the shots mandates, they were calling you an anti-vaxxer.
So it's our fault, basically, is what they're saying, that they haven't been able to tell the truth so far.
But here's the incredible thing about it.
You know, all these shots were indemnified, the companies giving the shots were indemnified against any kind of payouts for harms that might come as a result.
So, in a strange way, people were demotivated even from reporting the injuries that come from the shots because, you know, what are you going to get out of it?
The payouts from the government, from taxpayer payouts to injured people has been tiny, actually, and the companies themselves have a legal guarantee in most countries that they'll never be held accountable for injuries caused by the shots themselves.
So, you know, this is an outrage and people are figuring it out.
And if there's any relationship at all, which is unclear, between public opinion and policy outcomes, we'd like to think there is some relationship, although one wonders these days.
I would think that the global movement against mRNA technology and the outrage at all the lies that have been told to the last three years, are going to redound against the benefit of mRNA and Pfizer,
but they are gonna hold on to this for dear life.
I don't think we're anywhere near done with the struggle.
natalie winters
Well, you kind of beat me to it, but on that sort of research, not even research,
it's the first time ever that it was, whether it was the New York Times, you know, Chris Cuomo,
you started to get some lip service on the COVID vaccine injury stuff.
Again, I would describe it as like probably a limited, a very limited hangout.
But, you know, I, from my perspective, when you see whether it's the news, you know, oh, monkeypox is resurging.
Oh, there's a new, you know, flirt variant of COVID or superbugs are going to be the new deadly pandemic that will dwarf COVID.
And all of its severity.
I think it's interesting when you start to see the kind of media class, right?
These elites almost seem like they're trying to gain our support back, gain our trust back by saying, look, hey, we're fair.
We're neutral arbiters of the truth.
We look at vaccine injuries.
We even have Ashish Jha, the former COVID response director on News Nation saying, we got to look at these with haste and fury because Americans' lives, they matter, right?
It's total BS.
Spin, I'm just curious, and you can link this to what's going on with the pandemic treaty, but you know, looking downrange, where do you think all of this leads to?
Why does it seem like they're so hardcore pressing right now to try to win our trust back?
jeffrey tucker
Well, they want to give in as much as possible to comfort us that they really do care about our health.
I mean, put it frankly, I think it's a little late for that, right?
Limited hangouts work.
If you're shocking the public with new information, and so you just give a little bit in order to hide the deeper, darker truth, but if you wait too long for your limited hangout and you've got, you know, masses of people gathering with torches and pitchforks, you know, screaming at you, you can't, you know, then say what everybody already knows.
I mean, it doesn't actually work.
So I have my doubts that this is actually going to work, but Your listeners need to understand what's really going on with World Health Organization treaty and all the things that are called pandemic planning.
As I say, New York Times just yesterday ran a big article saying, don't worry, we made a lot of mistakes last time.
The next time we're going to use artificial intelligence and it's going to fix everything.
And the artificial intelligence will tell us whether we need to close your church or your bar.
All right?
That's what they're, that's what they're claiming.
The goal is always to retain the lockdown powers and lock us down until they can get their vaccine to us.
Lockdown until vaccinate.
Lockdown until vaccinate.
That is the NIH plan.
That's the Biden administration plan.
That's the World Health Organization plan.
That's what they don't want to give up.
They feel like they established this precedent.
Last time.
And they're going to do it again.
And they're going to look for some excuse.
And, yeah, avian bird flu works fine for that.
Although that's getting a little bit old, you know?
We've been hearing panic about the avian bird flu, you know, for 19 years.
Fauci was warning back in 2005 that half of humanity could die from the avian bird flu.
So this is not exactly, you know, that's an old retread.
But they also believe that they have the capability of just kind of whipping up the public with something that's not dangerous at all, some new pathogen that may be created in a biodefense lab and lock everybody down and then basically print the vaccine and then mandate it for us.
That's still their plan.
And the only thing that's really going to stop this is public outrage and public resistance, which I feel like
we're getting there.
So, Natalie, one of my concerns, and I started Brownstone to address a lot of these subjects,
along with the censorship and the CDBCs and everything associated with pandemic planning
and emergent, you know, sort of global fascism, essentially.
But one of my concerns is has been that people are going to the longer that the pandemic protocols, the lockdowns, and and the shot mandates fade into memory, that the less people will care about it.
I will tell you that that so far, I'm feeling as if the opposite has happened.
Like we're getting more public interest, more discussion, more disclosures, more public demands for accountability now than we had a year ago.
I'd say nothing of two or three years ago.
So this is good, but this pressure is entirely coming.
From venues like Brownstone, from you, from CHG, there's not that many people that are on the cutting edge of media on this because all the legacy media is entirely in bed with the pharma companies and that entire hegemonic enterprise of pandemic planning.
So they're not going to tell you the truth.
They're not going to talk about it.
But these alternative venues where we're going to go and get the information, but people's lives and their livelihoods and their families were completely wrecked by these insane people and their unconstitutional, outrageous actions over those years.
And it was a trauma, and it was terrible.
And sometimes the traumas, you just want to forget about them.
But sometimes the best way to make the trauma go away is to come to terms with the reality of what happened.
And that seems to be happening more and more.
natalie winters
Okay, we've got a few minutes left and I feel like this is the number one question that I always get on all things WHO, but the timeframe for what they want to roll out.
I know they extended the deliberative period over the actual adoption of it or something to that effect, but I know you guys always keep a close thumb on this at Brownstone.
So what can the Posse kind of be on the lookout for when it comes to this pandemic treaty?
jeffrey tucker
So, Natalie, this won't surprise you, but every time you hear the news that the pandemic treaty is now toothless, they took out the worst parts of it, that now it's completely unobjectionable and fine, I can promise you the truth is the opposite.
It just means that they've hidden the bad stuff in different places in the treaty.
And I've got a full team of researchers That are on this and they're watching the writing of this treaty literally day by day.
I mean, look, almost every day I'm publishing updates to these things.
They're constantly hiding the bad stuff.
Again, the purpose of the treaty is to somehow bind all nations in the world to this lockdown to vaccinate plan and complete with the track and trace And the digital passports, health passports, right?
That is the goal, to make that a one-world policy with which we all have to comply.
That's the thinking.
And they're not going to give that up.
So the answer to this treaty is Reject it.
I mean, that's it.
I don't care how much they try to fob it off as like some, oh, it's not as bad as it used to be.
Now it's just, yeah, it used to be kind of a problem for your sovereignty, but we fixed that part.
You know, they're going to keep doing this.
natalie winters
It's all lies.
And Jeffrey, we're coming up against the end of the show.
I'm sorry.
I'll have you back.
These are the discussions that matter.
But if people want to support Brownstone, read the stuff, follow you, where can they go to do all that?
jeffrey tucker
Yep, brownstomb.org is the place.
My own personal ex-account is Jeffrey A. Tucker, and we'd love for you to subscribe to our... we send one email a week with all of our stuff, and share it.
Share it with other people, too, because, like I say, Natalie, it's like Steve Roy says, it's just us, right?
I mean, we have to fight this.
And Steve also says, you know, nothing is baked into history.
We are history.
And whatever has been done can be undone.
So I believe he's right about that.
I have to believe that.
And now's the time.
natalie winters
Indeed.
Jeffrey, thank you so much for joining us.
We'll have you back soon.
jeffrey tucker
Pleasure.
Thank you.
natalie winters
Lauren Posse, that's probably a perfect segue for you to go to JaceMedical.com.
You don't want to be hooked into Big Pharma.
You don't want to be reliant on the Chinese Communist Party for any of your medical or pharmaceutical needs.
JaceMedical.com.
Just give them a look.
It doesn't hurt anyone.
You can also go to SheSoRight.co.
I know the Denver Control Room is a big fan of all my misinformation swag.
I saw a wonderful video.
We love the Denver Control Room.
Almost as much, maybe more than the West Palm Beach Studio.
You'll have to stay tuned for me to give you my answer.
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