May 17, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| Friday, 17 May, Year of the Lord 2024. | ||
| Of course, we started today in the cold open, the Tale of Two Cities, the firestorm yesterday in the courtroom. | ||
| Not just the chopping up of Michael Cohen by Todd Blanche, the president's lawyer, but also the show of force of the House Freedom Caucus under Congressman Bob Good and others up there, Jeff Clark. | ||
| Then that total fiasco last night as they try to do the markup. | ||
| You see how the Democrats, everything's a misdirection play. | ||
| They're trying to get the attention off of Biden in this classified documents. | ||
| But there's something that stinks to high heaven there. | ||
| We've got to get those audio tapes. | ||
| They should have videotaped it. | ||
| We don't know why. | ||
| But a lot of this is to cover, hey, this Ukraine situation, we're getting sucked in day by day by day, as we've warned, and somebody in the House is going to have to step up, and I mean step up now. | ||
| They're in the appropriations process, and this is why we're not going to agree to a CR. | ||
| You heard the other day, Love Chip Roy, not going to happen. | ||
| They need the single subject appropriations bill. | ||
| People ought to be working. | ||
| I don't know why these committees are not going nonstop. | ||
| Midnight on the 30th, and hey, my argument is shut down the frickin' government. | ||
| If it's not ready, shut it down. | ||
| And they're going to say, oh, you're only 30 days away from election. | ||
| Hey, you've got to get hands on this spending, and you've got to get a hand on the defense contractors, the military industrial complex. | ||
| Exactly what's going on here. | ||
| There's a massive effort underway to make this Vietnam number two Iraq number two Afghanistan number two New York Times reported a NATO is prepared and preparing to put a hundred and fifty thousand and their combat troops a day. | ||
| You can say they're advisors. | ||
| You can say they're technical. | ||
| They're for training. | ||
| And when they say, oh, we just want to take the training in Poland and kind of move it up to the front, that is a bald-faced lie. | ||
| These will be special forces. | ||
| They will be operators. | ||
| These will be combat troops. | ||
| And it's coming because they don't have the 500,000 Ukrainian young men and women are not there and not going to be there. | ||
| And Kharkiv is going to fall. | ||
| And I do disagree with Ben Harnwell. | ||
| I think that this is of the top order. | ||
| It's obviously not like Kiev falling. | ||
| But if Kharkiv, the number two city in Ukraine, falls, all hell's going to break loose over there. | ||
| And you're going to hear they're going to make a big push. | ||
| The warmongers are going to make a big push to get American combat troops. | ||
| Remember, the 101st Airborne's got a brigade right there in Romania, right on the border. | ||
| And that's what's been reported, and that's why we want to hear what Mike Johnson heard in these classified documents. | ||
| Okay, our classified hearings that he says changed his mind, yet he won't come forward with what it is. | ||
| And he won't tell the conference what it is. | ||
| Mike Lindell, people are bugging me. | ||
| They don't want you to leave until you give them a deal. | ||
| You either got an Islamic star, eight-point Islamic star, flying over the capital of Minnesota. | ||
| And Jackie Torberoff has shown it. | ||
| There's 15 or 20 of these coming. | ||
| This is the cultural. | ||
| This is what happens. | ||
| And this is not the Northern Star. | ||
| Don't give me the Northern Star. | ||
| This is an 8-pointed Islamic star versus your 5-pointed American star on the pillows. | ||
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| Mike Lindell, great. | ||
| We'll see you this afternoon, brother. | ||
| Keep fighting and we'll talk to you before you see the president. | ||
| I'll be live, Steve, from the event with the president here. | ||
| So I'll come on live this afternoon. | ||
| We'll see you then. | ||
| President is right now at his son's graduation. | ||
| Later this afternoon he's gonna fly to Minnesota for an event. | ||
| Tomorrow he's at the NRA. | ||
| We're gonna do a pregame on that on Real America's Voice. | ||
| Scott Besant joins us. | ||
| Scott, I got a lot to talk about the economy, the inflation, but you know, we're sitting here and of course the deep state forced Because President Trump wanted to kind of have some sort of rapprochement with the Russians to keep them out of some alliance with the Mullahs in Tehran and the Chinese Communist Party criminal syndicate in Beijing. | ||
| Of course, our betters forced that alliance together, that axis of evil. | ||
| Now, Jamie Dimon, I can't figure out Jamie Dimon. | ||
| One day, Jamie Dimon saying, yeah, I agree with Scott Besant. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| We're driving over a cliff on the debt and we got to take it seriously. | ||
| He's talking to the central bankers. | ||
| I think it was over in Amsterdam or in London today saying we need full engagement with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| I thought we were in the process of trying to smartly decouple. | ||
| Scott Besant, your thoughts. | ||
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Good morning, Steve. | |
| Jamie Dimon has a fiduciary duty. | ||
| To the shareholders of J.P. | ||
| Morgan, and he's done a fantastic job, the best performance of any large bank during and since the financial crisis. | ||
| But part of that is being flexible with your moral beliefs versus what's good for business. | ||
| And what is good for the business of J.P. | ||
| Morgan is Maintaining robust connectivity to the People's Republic of China, and that can only be done by making nice noises to the CCP. | ||
| So, JP Morgan has assets on the ground. | ||
| They're large lenders in Asia. | ||
| They have a big capital markets business. | ||
| So, on one hand, he is right. | ||
| You know, and it's easy to say that we have a debt crackup coming in the U.S. | ||
| and point out J.P. | ||
| Morgan is also a primary dealer. | ||
| So the more debt that gets sold, the more they benefit. | ||
| But, you know, I salute him for that. | ||
| But this full engagement with China is it's not it's not Where history is, it's not where the American people are. | ||
| And from what I can tell, it's not even where the Biden administration is. | ||
| They've done a gigantic Me Too in terms of tariffs. | ||
| Joe Biden, who was criticizing Donald Trump's tariffs on China, has now kept all of them on and is trying to buy votes in Michigan by throwing on these EV tariffs. | ||
| Talk to me about, you're the first person, I want to tie that to the producer price index and the CPI that came out this week, but I believe you're the first person of any, you know, heft that came out and you said, hey, we've got to start thinking of this deficit as percentage of GDP. | ||
| You said it's close to 7%, and that's simply not sustainable. | ||
| Now you've got to worry about obviously kicking into a deep recession or worse by, you know, two radical cuts. | ||
| We're all for a balanced budget but we say cuts got to be down and downloaded but you got to have a plan and right now there's no plan. | ||
| We know now From people in the House, that they have no intention of finishing the budget by September 30th. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Not gonna happen. | ||
| And there's all kind of kicking around about how to do that. | ||
| And we're very concerned about handcuffing the next administration, President Trump's next administration, his second term, but particularly his financial team, with, they want to quote-unquote clear the decks, which basically lock in spending for the next couple years. | ||
| And we've heard that the top-line number is really No different than what they've just passed. | ||
| It may be even an increase. | ||
| What is your thoughts about what would be a logical, you would say, a logical percentage of deficit? | ||
| Because you can't get to the war room balance budget. | ||
| We understand that. | ||
| But what would be the percentage that you think should be a target? | ||
| But at least we can start making progress to that. | ||
| Because right now, I think we're going in the opposite direction. | ||
| We were at six. | ||
| I think we're close to seven. | ||
| And I don't see it getting any better. | ||
| Scott Bessin. | ||
| Yeah, well, so Steve, the Biden administration has created this very unstable equilibrium. | ||
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And, you know, they pushed up asset prices for the top 20% of Americans. | |
| And they've done that with this massive borrowing, you know, six, 7% of GDP. | ||
| And then to make things worse, that they're financing it on the short end. | ||
| If you have a long-term 30-year mortgage, you know what your debt payments are and the rate's locked in. | ||
| about a household balance sheet. | ||
| You know, if you have a long-term 30-year mortgage, you know what your debt payments are | ||
| and the rate's locked in. | ||
| If you have a bunch of credit card debt, then the credit card debt is variable and it's high cost. | ||
| And Janet Yellen has taken long-term fixed debt and she's turned it into overnight credit card debt. | ||
| So, you know, you've got high deficit, Yeah. | ||
| High borrowings, and then the high borrowings are moved to the short end, which are the most expensive. | ||
| And to get to your question, I think that if President Trump did not create these deficits, I have said on your show, on other media, I've come out from behind my desk and my nice, quiet, life here in the investment business that I think 2024-2025 is our last chance for a growth strategy out of this debt. | ||
| If we look, the Steve Moore, Larry Kudlow, Art Laffer model of a growth strategy It still works, but barely with the level of debt we have. | ||
| So what we could shoot for over a Trump 2.0 is to try to cut the deficit in half. | ||
| And I think markets would respond very favorably to that. | ||
| I think it can be done. | ||
| But it's going to be difficult to land this plane. | ||
| This is landing a plane on an aircraft carrier in a cat two or cat three hurricane. | ||
| And it's not going to be easy, but it can be done. | ||
| And I think if there is a plan for debt reduction, Then the interest rate market will respond well to that, and you can start getting rate cuts. | ||
| The reason we can't get rate cuts now is because we're running these big deficits. | ||
| I call it two-footed driving. | ||
| In Grand Prix race cars, you drive with both feet, so you can take the curves really fast. | ||
| You have one foot on the accelerator, the other foot on the gas, and you're wearing down the engine. | ||
| And that's what we're doing now, is Federal Reserve has slammed on the brakes, which is killing the bottom 50% of wage earners. | ||
| The Biden administration has hit an accelerator, and I've never really seen anything like this. | ||
| And this is also the reason we have this inflation. | ||
| I want to hold you to the break because I want to go back to this. | ||
| When you say that this is the last shot, the traditional has been this when President Trump came into office in 17 and got the tax cut and the deregulation. | ||
| They gave us the monster year of 19 with low inflation, low interest rates, low unemployment, wages increasing with blue collar workers, wages increasing with non-college graduates. | ||
| It was quite frankly as close as you can get to nirvana. | ||
| I think it was also three and a half percent growth. | ||
| In the face of Janet Yellen's Fed, which I agreed with, actually restricting doing quantitative tightening of the balance sheet. | ||
| People forget she took almost a trillion dollars off. | ||
| The headwind that created in Trump's economic plan still had growth. | ||
| Scott Besant, we got The Hammer from Newsweek, Josh Hammer, all next in The War Room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass. | |
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| Scott Besson, I keep laying out this about the year of decision. | ||
| I don't know if this is the most important election in American history, but I can tell you the next 12 months are one of the most important years in American history. | ||
| You had the run-up to the election and we're about to go in the middle of a constitutional crisis now over the exertion of his executive privilege on these tapes of Biden. | ||
| You've got the run-up to 5 November and everything they're going to try to do to steal it. | ||
| You've got from 5 November to the 20th of January, Inauguration Day, where, you know, Mark Elias and Jamie Raskin are going to be at it non-stop, if not to steal it from Trump, then at least to make it seem like his legitimacy is questioned in front of the world and the nation. | ||
| And then you've got the 100 days, which would end probably last week, but the first 100 days of President Trump's second term, which is all important | ||
| because that will just set the tone and the tempo. The single most important thing he's got to | ||
| do with all the geopolitics, the invasion of the southern border has got to be stopped, all | ||
| of it, but you got to, if you don't get this financial situation, you know, a grip on it and | ||
| directionally point it downrange, we're not going to turn this around. And you've said, hey, | ||
| look, we got about a year and you got to get this right. | ||
| If you're going to do the classic American kind of Reagan-esque growth strategy to try to grow your way out of this, if you don't do that, you're going to be at best Japan. | ||
| You're going to be looking at lost decades. | ||
| And I know you warn us that, hey, Japan is a lot better than what could happen, because you could be Europe. | ||
| Your thoughts, Scott Besson? | ||
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As I mentioned, I am very concerned and the Trump financial team needs to come out swinging with a plan. | |
| And I was working on a letter to my investors that we're going to send out in the next couple of weeks. | ||
| And I was talking about, to me, One of the great challenges over the next year to three years is going to be this continued disengagement between the U.S. | ||
| economy and the Chinese economy. | ||
| A lot of it for security reasons. | ||
| Others for maybe the bad behavior by the Chinese in terms of funding the Russian war machine. | ||
| And I was sitting and I was thinking, how do we do this? | ||
| How do we keep our economy going because they become so interlinked? | ||
| And what are the first steps? | ||
| And then it just hit me like a freight train is we can't do anything unless we get our own house in order. | ||
| Is This high national debt and deficits are a national security issue. | ||
| So this year, for the first time, interest on the debt is going to be more than we spend on defense. | ||
| We are going to spend $1.1 trillion, with a T, in interest on the debt, and our defense budget is approximately $900 to $950 billion. | ||
| The interest on the debt If there are no interest rate cuts this year, we'll mechanically go to $1.6 trillion next year. | ||
| So we have to get this under control to In the name of national security. | ||
| Forget financial security. | ||
| forget any of this. | ||
| So if we can... | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| I just want to make for the audience to connect two dots here. | ||
| You said in the last segment that Yellen's made a conscious decision to finance short | ||
| 90-day bills, et cetera, essentially using a credit card type financing instead of a | ||
| mortgage. | ||
| She's not going to... | ||
| She's not selling 10s and 30s. | ||
| That is one of the reasons that you're going to get to 1.1 and go to 1.6. | ||
| The Biden regime has consciously to try to hide things gone short, and that's one of | ||
| the reasons that you're seeing the explosion because of the gross face amount of it, but | ||
| also the conscious decisions they're doing in trying to finance this, sir. | ||
| Am I incorrect there? | ||
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Steve, you're 100% correct that everything with the Biden administration has been a decision and a choice. | |
| The great inflation of 21, 22 that we're still suffering through, that was a choice to blow out the deficits and spend To constrict the supply side via enhanced regulation, that's a choice. | ||
| To move the debt profile to the short end is a choice. | ||
| And I would send all of your audience to the Wall Street Journal today. | ||
| There's a fantastic piece by a fellow from the Manhattan Institute, Dan Katz, And he explains in great detail, in very understandable | ||
| terms, exactly what Professor Yellen has done. | ||
| And it is shocking. | ||
| So we think of financial markets, are you fragile or anti-fragile or robust in the financial | ||
| And as we go into this great power conflict with China, we have been made more fragile. | ||
| So we have to really start working to become more anti-fragile, more robust, and that's going to require terming out a trillion dollars of debt probably next year. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| Scott, we got to bounce. | ||
| Looking forward to having you on next week. | ||
| The big story in Bloomberg today. | ||
| We'll push out to all the audience about you and Paulson and some others on the shortlist for President Trump's Secretary of the Treasury. | ||
| Where do people go to get your thinking, your thoughts, all your writings? | ||
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Good. | |
| And Steve, I'll say about that article. | ||
| There are no service positions in the administration if Donald Trump doesn't win, so we should all focus on that before we worry about musical chairs. | ||
| Anyone who wants to contact me, I'd love to hear from you. | ||
| It's ir at keysq.com. | ||
| I also, the other, there was also another small mistake. | ||
| You've been a supporter of President Trump for many, many years. | ||
| I've known you for a long time and you've been, and people don't understand, you're a MAGA. | ||
| You did not, Scott Besant was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth. | ||
| You're from, I think, near Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. | ||
| Is that it, sir? | ||
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Yeah, we don't have a lot of silver spoons in Little River, South Carolina. | |
| A lot of shrimp boats. | ||
| Little River. | ||
| A scholarship kid to Yale, and you've done good, but you're deplorable at heart. | ||
| Scott Besson, thank you so much. | ||
| An honor to have you on here. | ||
| Good. | ||
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Thanks, Steve. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| It's always a good hour. | ||
| We got Scott Besant, I got Josh Hammer, I got Natalie Winters, three of the most powerful thinkers around. | ||
| Josh Hammer, I think this is a sequel to your piece the other day, walked me through this, quite powerful. | ||
| You've talked about a judiciary system in meltdown, like the kangaroo courts. | ||
| You talked about us becoming like a banana republic. | ||
| Your piece today, is anybody going to be held accountable for this? | ||
| Your thoughts? | ||
| Yeah, Steve, look, I mean, like many of us, I have been sounding the alarm on the law fair for a very long time now. | ||
| I mean, after Alvin Bragg dropped his first indictment over a year ago now, I wrote a column called The Point of No Return, saying that this was a crossing on the Rubicon as a moment, an inflection point in American history that we will never get back. | ||
| And then last week, I was on with you talking about just the outrageous nature, specifically of the New York City trial, where Donald Trump is chained down to this courtroom, this dingy 13th 14th floor whatever it is courtroom for the five days the working week instead of getting out there to host these massive rallies in michigan wisconsin all the swing states there | ||
| But this week, and you're right, it is something of a sequel to what I wrote last week, I wanted to zoom out a little bit and make sure that we're all on the same page about what the Democrat Lawfare Complex, as I call it, what they have been trying to accomplish here for the past year now. | ||
| So Alvin Brad was first out of the gate last year, and then it wasn't very long after that that you had the federal indictments from Jack Smith, you had the classified documents case here in Florida where I live, and then In Washington, D.C., you had the Crown Jewel case, the January 6th case from Jack Smith. | ||
| That was the case that the entire DNC was probably most excited for. | ||
| And then you had the Fonny Wills case in Georgia, which, from my perspective, at that time when they dropped it, I thought it was legally meritless, but I actually was the most scared about it from just the possible ramifications. | ||
| You know, who might testify? | ||
| Are they going to get Brad Raffensperger and Kemp on the stands? | ||
| Who knows there? | ||
| At this point now, in May 2024, This thing is a joke. This has turned into a pathetic, disreputable, | ||
| burning dumpster fire of an excuse of a lawfare election interference campaign. | ||
| And at this point, I think we need to start asking some questions. Obviously, we don't want to | ||
| start counting the chickens before they hatch. We'll see what happens in the New York City case. | ||
| Michael Cohen had a disastrous day on the witness stand yesterday. | ||
| At this point, the prosecution's case is totally falling apart. | ||
| They're going to have a very brief window of opportunity on Monday on redirect to try to reestablish credibility for their so-called star witness. | ||
| Good luck with that. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| But at this point, I think it's probably time for some of us to start asking, is there going to be accountability like this? | ||
| Or, like COVID, is it going to be just another accountability-free mass crisis that was foisted upon a citizenry with republic-ending tactics? | ||
| As my Article 3 Project colleague Mike Davis likes to say, That is what they have done with this series of prosecutions here. | ||
| 91 criminal accounts trying to prosecute and incarcerate their political opposition because they know that their senile octogenarian of a candidate cannot possibly make it across the finish line absent these extraordinary efforts. | ||
| So is there going to be accountability for it, Steve? | ||
| That really is the question. | ||
| And the good news, the good news is that the polling right now is actually really good. | ||
| This New York Times-Siena College poll that we saw earlier this week has Trump ahead in five of the six leading swing states. | ||
| He was down by one in Michigan, well within the margin of error. | ||
| Michigan, who knows what's going to happen there with all the radical jihadi sympathizers in Dearborn and the war in Gaza. | ||
| A lot of variables there in that state. | ||
| But as of now, it's looking like we're on track for some accountability. | ||
| But I want our side to just start talking about accountability because we cannot possibly overstate the destruction that the Democrat lawfare complex has foisted on our republic in the past year. | ||
| This is one of the reasons Josh Hammer is one of the most important public intellectuals. | ||
| I'm going to hold you, Josh, to the commercial break, because I want to ask you, we just heard what Treasury's doing to our financial structure. | ||
| We just read this morning in the New York Times about Ukraine and combat troops. | ||
| Should there be accountability in more than just the judicial and legal system? | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Josh Hammer on the other side. | ||
| Is these members of Congress saying, we're here to support him and the American legal system is illegitimate and corrupt? | ||
| And the judge is corrupt. | ||
| And let me tell you about the judge's family. | ||
| And that is just a wholly different thing. | ||
| It is a hard thing to have people in very high office committing crimes in this country. | ||
| It was hard with Nixon. | ||
| It was hard with Agnew. | ||
| It's hard with Trump. | ||
| There's a reason that sitting presidents can't get prosecuted. | ||
| Like, it's all very difficult. | ||
| But when instead you've got a political party saying the American legal system should be gotten rid of because it's corrupt. | ||
| And the people involved in it are corrupt and bad and evil and persecuting you and me. | ||
| That is something totally different. | ||
| That is corrosive to the legal system at a minimum. | ||
| So, corrosive. | ||
| Josh, are you saying that, are you saying get rid of the American legal system or putting the blowtorch to the ones that have corrupted it? | ||
| No, it's clearly the latter. | ||
| Steve, look, I'm a lawyer by background. | ||
| I clerked on the U.S. | ||
| Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. | ||
| I clerked for a federal judge. | ||
| I'm still a barred lawyer. | ||
| I mean, it pains me greatly that this is what has happened to the American legal system and to the American judicial system. | ||
| The remedy, though, The remedy is for the right to be clear-eyed about what we face. | ||
| It is to be clear-eyed about the fact that they are trotting out these bogus prosecutions, trying to incarcerate their political opposition. | ||
| And it's time for our side, Steve, to wake up and try to respond in kind, to fight fire with fire within the confines of prudence and reason. | ||
| Put another way, we need to start getting more aggressive prosecutions on our own side, some enterprising entrepreneurial district attorneys down | ||
| in the Texas panhandle or places like that who are going to try and get Hunter Biden and | ||
| Anthony Fauci and people like that, trot them into court, try to do some fire with fire just to | ||
| try to rebalance the pendulum here. | ||
| So in order to try to move on, we first have to be very clear about what it is that we are fighting. | ||
| But the broader point here, the broader point is it's not just the judicial system. | ||
| The rule of law right now in this country is in existential danger. | ||
| No doubt about that whatsoever. | ||
| But what your previous guest was saying about what's happening to the national debt and the deficits every year, you know, just yesterday there was actually a very unfortunate ruling of the U.S. | ||
| Supreme Court when it came to the CFBP, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which is the brainchild of Elizabeth Warren. | ||
| They upheld the constitutional structure of this by a 7 to 2 count. | ||
| I was kind of shocked to see that. | ||
| Very powerful dissent by Sam Alito. | ||
| This is unconstitutional as well. | ||
| You know, it's this bogus left-wing agency that's essentially drawing on unlimited funding from the Federal Reserve. | ||
| They're coming at us essentially from all directions. | ||
| And that's even to hold aside the uniparty hubris and conceit when it comes to foreign policy and the Ukraine boondoggle, hundreds of billions of dollars into this unwinnable war against the world's largest nuclear hegemon, the Russian Federation. | ||
| Utterly insane stuff. | ||
| So we have a massive, massive problem on our own side about just seeing clearly what it is we are up against. | ||
| You know, Steve, they say that if you're ever going to make inroads, if you're ever going to claw back from the abyss, you have to be clear-eyed about the threat. | ||
| And that is what I'm trying to get our own side to do, is just to wake up. | ||
| Do you think we're, even if we get clear-eyed, do you think there's enough Guts and gumption and stick-to-itiveness and grit on the right to hold people accountable. | ||
| Whether it was in Treasury of what they did, the military-industrial complex, in the Pentagon of what they did, the national security, you know, the Michael Benz with their hammering every day, national security and intelligence, obviously the legal system. | ||
| Do you see leaders out there on the right that are prepared to take the tough steps that you have to take to hold people accountable? | ||
| So, yeah, I mean, there definitely are some, right? | ||
| But here's one thing that I will say. | ||
| So, there was one thing about the Tea Party movement that I actually liked a lot. | ||
| In many ways, the movement was very flawed. | ||
| It had way too strong of a libertarian tendency. | ||
| That's really not the direction when it comes to nationalist populism that we need to go in many ways. | ||
| One thing that the Tea Party era of activists on the right that I think really got right, Steve, was getting really involved at the grassroots level in primaries and trying to hold congressman accountable when it comes to political primary. | ||
| I very rarely hear about Republicans and conservative grassroots activists today talk about the importance of trying to primary weak and feckless incumbents. | ||
| Those who are trying to sell out the American taxpayer when it comes to offshore manufacturing jobs to the Chinese Communist Party, when it comes to trying to fund This endless, unwinnable war in Ukraine, the Treasury, as you were just discussing, we need to hold our own elected officials accountable. | ||
| And that's one thing that I think a prior generation of conservative activists actually did a lot better than the President. | ||
| So maybe that's one thing that we could try to bring back from the, frankly, from the not-so-distant past, actually. | ||
| Josh, where do people, you're one of our leading public intellectuals, where do people get all your writings and podcasts? | ||
| Yeah, Steve, thanks so much. | ||
| So on Twitter, Josh underscore Hammer. | ||
| Instagram, Josh B. Hammer. | ||
| Show the Josh Hammer show, and also America on Trial with Josh Hammer. | ||
| I have two shows everywhere you get your podcasts, and then I write a weekly syndicated column at Newsweek and a whole host of other right-of-center websites as well. | ||
| You see, Josh is like, he's a recovering lawyer, but he's like the Pacino in Godfather III. | ||
| He just gets out and then they pull him back in. | ||
| Right, Josh Hammer? | ||
| Love your brother. | ||
| Keep pounding. | ||
| You too, Steve. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Okay, my co-host now joins us, Natalie Winters. | ||
| Natalie, I keep saying this is the most important year, I don't know the most important election in the next 12 months, broken down into three sections. | ||
| The run-up to 5 November, then what they're going to try to do between 5 November and Inauguration Day, and then the first 100 days of Trump's second term. | ||
| You've got a pretty How do I say it? | ||
| Scary piece up. | ||
| Scary piece. | ||
| Talking about Source. | ||
| These people, they understand. | ||
| This is why I wanted you to follow Josh about holding folks accountable. | ||
| You've got to get there. | ||
| And they understand when we win, we will hold them accountable. | ||
| And you're saying, yo, not so fast. | ||
| They're going to pull everything. | ||
| You haven't seen anything yet of what they're going to try to do. | ||
| The amount of money, the interference, all of us. | ||
| Walk us through Source and your new piece. | ||
| Sure, well look, it's not just the most important election in American history, I think you could say, it's really in world history. | ||
| And I think part of the reason is that so many of these global agendas, whether it's the United Nations, the World Economic Forum, the Chinese Communist Party, but they're kind of ambitious global plans, right? | ||
| Whether it's the Sustainable Development Goals made in China 2030, are set to culminate in the year 2030. | ||
| So if President Trump Converging on that. | ||
| Yeah, so if President Trump were to get back into office, that is a major, major impediment, right, to the rollout of so many of those initiatives. | ||
| And I think it's why you see kind of the George Soros-type donors of the world really plowing in ridiculous amounts of cash. | ||
| You're talking tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars to control the outcome of this election. | ||
| And one of the ways that they're doing it, they just announced yesterday, now there are a lot of buried leads to this story. | ||
| But there's a group called Power the Polls. | ||
| They always like to come up with these innocuous sounding names. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| They're very good at branding. | ||
| We'll give them that. | ||
| I guess when you have tons of millions of dollars, you can hire all the consultants. | ||
| And you've got Madison Avenue. | ||
| You have the Donnie Dorches of the world, right? | ||
| They don't have the aesthetics of the war room, like you know, but they have some good aesthetics. | ||
| They don't have full gonzo, right? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But they do have collaborative efforts ongoing with state election offices to select poll workers. | ||
| So this group, Power the Polls, which if you dig through, not only is it through kind of a Russian nesting doll situation, a project of the New Venture Fund, which is linked to Arabella Advisors, it's funded by George Soros, even Politico admits in an article that they were doing about it, that it was basically set up by the Open Society Foundations. | ||
| Of course, that's George Soros, you know, hub of left-wing activism and political donations. | ||
| But this group just announced yesterday, you know, when they say bipartisan, that's when the red flags go off. | ||
| But a new committee that ahead of the 2024 election is going to be recruiting poll watchers. | ||
| Now the people who are leading this effort, I kid you not. | ||
| And this is the counter to us and the precinct strategy and Lara Trump saying we're recruiting 100,000 coming from MAGA. | ||
| And the mules, the people who are sitting outside the ballot boxes. | ||
| So this is a counter to that. | ||
| Remember Pamela Carlin sent a letter to the DOJ saying that those people were... We love Pamela Carlin. | ||
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We love Pamela. | |
| She's been on the show for so long. | ||
| No, but the person who leads this new Soros-backed effort, the co-chair of the advisory board is Representative Adam Kinzinger. | ||
| And some Hollywood elites, Kerry Washington. | ||
| But I think the most concerning part about this story is that Brad Raffensperger, Gabe Sterling, those are, of course, infamous names from the 2020 election. | ||
| And in addition to the Georgia Secretary of State, the Nevada Secretary of State is involved in the effort too. | ||
| And three or four people from organizations that have also been funded by George Soros. | ||
| But you're saying these quizlings, Raffensperger being a perfect example, Gabe Sterling, Kinzinger, these quizlings are giving their Are putting their name to this so that the source radical left can say, hey, you got bipartisan. | ||
| It's just not the hardcore cult of Trump. | ||
| Yeah, there are no pro-Trump people on it, but they love to be able to spin it as bipartisan, probably just to keep the 501c3 status. | ||
| But I think when you take a step back, when you see all these polls coming out, how President Trump is dominating, make no mistake, he is, right, obviously producing a much more salient message with the American people. | ||
| But that is a very naive, I think, belief to think that because President Trump is polling better, that that is going to translate on Election Day. | ||
| I think 95% of this audience will say the exact same thing. | ||
| The polls- The polls show us directionally, we understand the message and people are awakening to this, that people are being red-pilled, but it's a long way from a poll to victory. | ||
| We went through this in 2020. | ||
| Well I think what they learned from 2016 is that the key factor in deciding elections now, in the kind of social media age, is really How much you can mobilize and have voters actually show up, right? | ||
| It's the politics of, of persuasion and passion. | ||
| And I think that the way that they are sort of trying to reverse engineer or at least go up against that is they're making the, the actual political battle, not so much on the issue of candidates. | ||
| That's why Joe Biden can hide in his basement, but that the actual politicking is happening on the election administration level. | ||
| In other words, from the poll workers to the machines, to the way that your, your, both your, your votes are cast, right? | ||
| There's a distinction between votes and ballots. | ||
| And this is just another form of lawfare, right? | ||
| The Never Trump movement didn't go away, and you know they always have backup plans and contingency plans because they know if President Trump wins that they will be going to jail. | ||
| So even though there's, of course, the ongoing cases against Trump, they have backup plans. | ||
| Also, backup plan to backup plan. | ||
| If lawfare fails, right, they get the backup plan to steal it. | ||
| It's also, he's a good proxy. | ||
| Source is a good proxy. | ||
| Look, money can buy you smart people. | ||
| He did the DAs, right? | ||
| The corrupt DAs. | ||
| He was the first guy to really get into the Secretary of State. | ||
| He understands, he sees our movement here to do this. | ||
| He's going to get ahead of it by actually putting more money in it. | ||
| You may not like these people, particularly not like what they stand for, but they're quite smart and cunning. | ||
| Well, the number one thing that I think the War Room Posse, that, you know, people who watch the show always say is that the left works in lockstep, right? | ||
| They are always united on the issue. | ||
| You can see it in the way they vote. | ||
| You can see it in the messages that they promote. | ||
| And that's because when you take a step back, it's not that there's actual ideological cohesion among these people. | ||
| It's that they're all funded by the same people, right? | ||
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And that's, I think... Tides Foundation, Soros, Arabella. | |
| What's going on on these college campuses, right? | ||
| There's this weird affinity. | ||
| You're saying that people are putting America on fire are actually in back of financing that, too. | ||
| They're financing that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the Tides Foundation funded some of the people who are on this new, you know, a poll worker initiative. | ||
| The Tides Foundation, of course, being behind Black Lives Matter, though I guess they're getting sued now. | ||
| They're also behind the college protests. | ||
| So I think you don't really need to look at these these groups or these individual efforts as, you know, isolated incidences. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They all work together to, I think, with the goal that they espouse when they're protesting, you know, on the lawn in Columbia, death to America. | ||
| You don't have to go to Iran to hear them say that. | ||
| These are people who, I think, in collusion with foreign governments who don't like the United States. | ||
| But the reason why the left always has a cohesive viewpoint and they march in lockstep is because they're all being bankrolled by the same people. | ||
| Natalie is going to take the six today. | ||
| I'm going to take the five. | ||
| The six is going to be pretty explosive. | ||
| You've got to do a lot of prep work to get ready for it, but you've promised me you're going to stick around. | ||
| We're going to do at least part of the next of the next block. | ||
| I've got a very special video to show you from the cold open. | ||
| Last night was a complete throw down. | ||
| I don't think I've ever seen anything like it in the house. | ||
| I think they're still triggered because they played War Room on the house floors. | ||
| It was too much truth. | ||
| Too much truth. | ||
| And put up Natalie Winters tweets and retweets. | ||
| That's just still the Geyser and Jordans. | ||
| I was still talking about that. | ||
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| Now the winner's going to stick around, shortly. | ||
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It's me. | |
| Miss Crockett. | ||
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I'm just curious, just to better understand your ruling, if someone on this committee then starts talking about somebody's bleach-blonde, bad-built, butch body, that would not be engaging in personalities, correct? | |
| Uh, what now? | ||
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Chairman, I make a motion to strike those words. | |
| I don't think that's a part of it. | ||
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I'm trying to find clarification on what quality... Chairman, motion to strike those words. | |
| I had no idea what you just said. | ||
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We're not going to do this. | |
| Look, you guys earlier literally just... You just voted to do it! | ||
| You just voted to do it! | ||
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Order! | |
| Order! | ||
| I'm trying to get clarification. | ||
| Look it, calm down. | ||
| Calm down. | ||
| No, no, no, because this is what it all do. | ||
| Hey, Ms. | ||
| Crockett, you're not recognized. | ||
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Ms. | |
| Crockett. | ||
| I can't hear you with your yelling. | ||
| Calm down. | ||
| Natalie, professionally, you cover a lot of hearings. | ||
| You cover the background, talk to staff on the investigations. | ||
| Last night, on a very serious topic, it was an absolute throwdown. | ||
| Your thoughts? | ||
| Reminds me of the Chinese Communist Party Politburo. | ||
| I think that's how they run things there. | ||
| Not quite, yeah. | ||
| No, it's absolutely reprehensible. | ||
| We were talking in the break, we were like, I think that the way that Representative Crockett, I think that's her name, says that MTG has a, quote, butch body, she's saying it like it's a pejorative thing. | ||
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I think GLAAD and all of the homosexual organizations should be— We think that's a compliment, right? | |
| Exactly. | ||
| So there's maybe some issues on the intersection. | ||
| But she was trying to make it as a dig? | ||
| But I also think, to all jokes aside, although there are a lot of jokes that could be made from that clip, I think it shows the lack of not even just respect for the body that is Congress, but I think they knew yesterday's hearing was serious, right? | ||
| Going after Merrick Garland, that's sort of like a kingpin in the swamp, right? | ||
| So they want to do anything they can to make the hearing unserious, and that's why we're talking about it now. | ||
| So your point, to make it unserious, this is playing into the Ray Dalio's of the world. | ||
| They're saying we're heading toward a civil war. | ||
| Do you think this is the performative nature of the Democrats, particularly in the House? | ||
| Well, I think the most common refrain that you heard against President Trump, which is, I mean, pretty hypocritical, and I would say projection at its finest, was that, you know, he was not the adult in the room, right? | ||
| We need to trust the experts. | ||
| And empirically, the record of the Biden regime suggests otherwise. | ||
| I'd say that video is almost as cringe as Antony Blinken playing the guitar in Kyiv, maybe less so. | ||
| But these are not the experts. | ||
| Right. They they it's funny. | ||
| I think they get off on the idea of being, you know, intellectually superior to us. | ||
| They've graduated from, you know, the Harvard Kennedy School. | ||
| They think that makes them something. | ||
| But in reality, you look at who funds all these organizations. | ||
| It's groups that hate America. | ||
| It's the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| It's Iran. It's far left organizations that frankly probably love to watch videos like | ||
| that, because when the Chinese Communist Party sees that, you think the People's | ||
| Liberation Army says, oh, my goodness, those are the people who are controlling the | ||
| funding of the military industrial complex and the Department of Defense. | ||
| OK, you're going to get rid of the six. | ||
| The 6th is going to be pretty explosive. | ||
| I don't want to give any tips away. | ||
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You're going to follow me at 5, but it's going to be pretty explosive. | |
| Natalie's going to go get ready for it. | ||
| Natalie, thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you for coming by here in the Palm Beach studios. | ||
| Aaron Czar is here. | ||
| Aaron, walk me through why you need silent the Faraday bags now more than ever since we've not just expanded or not extended FISA, we've expanded FISA so they can spy on the American people, sir. | ||
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Hey, thanks for having me on. | |
| Just want to say hello to the War Room Posse, and I hope the kickoff to summer's going well for everyone. | ||
| We make Faraday bags, plain and simple. | ||
| We all have these beautiful devices that we carry around that give us ultimate freedom and convenience, but the freedom's really sacrificed because you're being tracked, you're being hacked, you're being located. | ||
| So I'm a big believer in peace of mind, and one way to enjoy that more is to have a Faraday bag. | ||
| We have this backpack right here for example. | ||
| Inside, you drop in all your electronics from your laptop to your phone and you can instantly block all wireless signals. | ||
| It's the time, you know? | ||
| It's been the climate... Hang on. | ||
| Besides non-state actors, foreign powers, how concerned are you about our own government listening to citizens now that you've had the Pfizer, you know, enlargement and extension? | ||
| How concerned are you? | ||
| You're a professional in this. | ||
| You do this for a living. | ||
| How concerned are you? | ||
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Highly concerned, and thank you for the tee-up question, but I think what we saw when 9-11 happened and the signing of the Patriot Act was really the big erosion to our privacy and our civil liberties. | |
| We are being harvested. | ||
| We are the product. | ||
| I don't know how else to put it. | ||
| Everything that we use is embedded into the government. | ||
| And while SILENT supports military, and we're very proud of that, for signal management and operations, the American people are suffering because we're underneath a regime that is out to collect every bit of data on us, and they know more about us, and they can predict what we do. | ||
| It could be used for nefarious purposes. | ||
| So state actors, yes, but the government is to be watched as well. | ||
| And I think you know that all too well. | ||
| So tell me about when people go, our audience loves to immerse themselves in information and find out about products. | ||
| When they go to your site, help us navigate around. | ||
| What are they supposed to do? | ||
| How do they find out more about a Faraday bag? | ||
| How do they find out more about the different types of Faraday bags that you have? | ||
| What goes through their own devices? | ||
| Where do they go and how they learn more? | ||
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Yeah, sure. | |
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| Use code BANNON at checkout for an exclusive discount. | ||
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| We make phone sleeves. | ||
| And what you want to really do is understand that the culprit is your phone. | ||
| That's the starting point. | ||
| And if you protect your phone in a time and a place, then you're going to have more control over your freedom. | ||
| So protecting your phone is a starting point. | ||
| But then think about your laptop. | ||
| Think about your family. | ||
| Think about car keys that are remotely hacked and your car gets stolen out of your driveway. | ||
| These are all real threats that every American faces every day. | ||
| So having a tool as simple as a Faraday bag where you could block cellular Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, RFID, EMP, all in one simple little bag or sleeve or case. | ||
| It's a beautiful thing. | ||
| It's just ownership of your own data, and that's just become a requirement these days. | ||
| And I think, you know, the War Room Posse is a big fan of protecting freedom, and that's what SILENT is all about. | ||
| Own your digital self. | ||
| Do it today. | ||
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| Where'd they go? | ||
| One more time, Aaron, where'd they go? | ||
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I think everyone needs to go to SLNT.com. | |
| Check out the products. | ||
| We make really beautiful stuff. | ||
| You don't have to take a big leap to have this sort of privacy and security in your life. | ||
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| So again, SLNT.com. | ||
| Use code BANNON at checkout. | ||
| And I'd like to see the War Room Posse rally and get some of these products because it's perfect. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| And we really appreciate your family starting this company. | ||
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Yeah, thank you. | |
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| OK, Charlie Kirk Show is going to follow us here on Real America's Voice. | ||
| You got Posobic later. | ||
| Then you got Miranda Khan and the Tara doll. | ||
| We're back here at five. | ||
| Natalie is going to take you home at six. | ||
| On a pretty wild ride today. | ||
| Be back here at 5 p.m. | ||
| You're gonna be in the War Room. |
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