May 17, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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I now recognize the ranking member. | |
| Thank you, Mr. Chairman. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, in this special nighttime episode, we resume the madcap comedy mystery series called Comer's High Crimes and Misadventures, the hilarious quest to impeach a president who has done nothing wrong. | ||
| ...an avowedly low-budget, but multi-million-dollar taxpayer-funded production, which most Americans assumed it ended two months ago, and had completely forgotten about. | ||
| ...an avowedly low-budget, but multi-million-dollar taxpayer-funded production, which most Americans assumed it ended two months ago, and had completely forgotten about. | ||
| But tonight, with the cast and crew now fresh back from a surprise trip to New York City... You mean like the January 6th committee? | ||
| Uh, I... Uh-uh. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| I'd like my time restored to me, Mr. Chairman. | ||
| Order, order. | ||
| Chair recognizes Ranking Member. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Order. | ||
| Order, order. | ||
| Well, tonight, with the cast and crew, there is literally no branch of government | ||
| that Michael Cohen is not lied to. | ||
| He lied to investigators. | ||
| He lied to the judge who sentenced him. | ||
| He lied to the United States Congress. | ||
| And he committed these lies for his own benefit. | ||
| And while we're talking, About what we saw in that courtroom going on for people's own benefit? | ||
| We would be remiss if we did not mention this corrupt judge. | ||
| This judge whose own family is making six figures off of Democrat politics that continues to gaslight the country that there's some sort of crime committed by President Trump. | ||
| We're seeing today what lengths the Democrat Party will go to try to rig or steal another election. | ||
| They tried to do it in 2020. | ||
| They're doing it again here in 2024 by trying to keep the nominee off the ballot, by trying to keep the nominee from campaigning, by trying to ruin the nominee financially. | ||
| And we're seeing that today. | ||
| We saw the perjurer-in-chief, Michael Cohen, multiple times admit and acknowledge that | ||
| he has lied under oath, he's perjured himself, and yet we're supposed to believe his testimony | ||
| as the star witness against President Trump. | ||
| This is lawfare, again to try to steal or to rig an election. | ||
| You've got a corrupt prosecutor, you've got a corrupt star witness, you've got a corrupt | ||
| judge whose daughter is one of the leading fundraisers. | ||
| for the Democrat Party, having raised some $100 million. | ||
| That's the judge's daughter. | ||
| This is a crooked sham trial to try to hurt the nominee. | ||
| It's gonna be the President of the United States, whether or not they like it | ||
| or whether or not they want that to happen. | ||
| President Trump is gonna be reelected. | ||
| Different congressional investigations and inquiries. | ||
| And I know that pleases the gentlelady from Georgia. | ||
| Because he issued a- I just want to hear Joe Biden. | ||
| Why can't the American people hear him? | ||
| Order, Mr. Chairman. | ||
| Get her under control. | ||
| President Trump... President Trump issued an edict... No, I am glad that the gentlelady from Georgia is learning something tonight, okay? | ||
| The president... I encourage her to be a good listener, and she's been a good listener, so... Mr. Chairman, the last... I'd like to know if any of the Democrats on this committee are employing Judge Mershawn's daughter. | ||
| Please tell me what that has to do with Mayor Garland. | ||
| Is she a porn star? | ||
| Oh, Goldman. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He's advising. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's advising who? | ||
| What? | ||
| Do you know what we're here for? | ||
| You know we're here about... I don't think you know what you're here for. | ||
| Well, you're the one talking about... I think your fake eyelashes are messing up with me. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| Order, Mr. Chairman. | ||
| Order. | ||
| Order. | ||
| I do have a point of order, and I would like to move to take down Ms. | ||
| Green's words. | ||
| That is absolutely unacceptable. | ||
| How dare you attack the physical appearance of another person? | ||
| Are your feelings hurt? | ||
| Move her words down. | ||
| Oh, girl. | ||
| Baby girl. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Don't even play with me. | ||
| Baby girl? | ||
| I don't think... We are going to move, and we're going to take your words down. | ||
| I second that motion. | ||
| Ms. | ||
| Green agrees to strike her words. | ||
| I believe she's apologizing. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| Then, after Mr. Perry, she'll be recognizing Ms. | ||
| Green. | ||
| I'm not apologizing. | ||
| Well, then, you're not striking your words. | ||
| I am not apologizing. | ||
| Now, let's go. | ||
| Come on, guys. | ||
| Why don't you debate me? | ||
| I think it's pretty self-evident. | ||
| Yeah, you're out of order. | ||
| You don't have enough intelligence. | ||
| I'd like to strike those words as well. | ||
| I would like to order as well. | ||
| That's two requests to strike. | ||
| That's two requests to strike. | ||
| Oh, they cannot take the word. | ||
| There's another motion to strike your words again. | ||
| Please get your members under control. | ||
| Here's the correct apology. | ||
| Ms. | ||
| Green, do you agree to unanimous consent to strike your words? | ||
| I repeat again for the second time. | ||
| Yes, I'll share my words, but I'm not apologizing. | ||
| Without objection. | ||
| But if they had nothing to hide, and if they're truly being honest about this, why is it that you guys can't be in the courtroom and see exactly what we're seeing? | ||
| Just because we're members of Congress does not mean we have authority more than you guys to know exactly what's happening in that courtroom. | ||
| The fact that this trial, look at the timing of it. | ||
| Before the presidential primary, before the conventions, having Donald Trump sit here, their whole purpose is to keep him off the campaign trail so that he can't do what he does best. | ||
| You know what their intent is? | ||
| This is their intent to put him behind bars, and the American people are going to say no. | ||
| They're not going to put an innocent man behind bars. | ||
| I don't care what kind of political theater they want to keep going. | ||
| This is a kangaroo court, pure and simple. | ||
| I was only in that courtroom for about two hours, and I heard Michael Cohen admit at least six times that he lied. | ||
| I mean, that's what this is about. | ||
| That tells you everything you need to know. | ||
| And this is the star witness, him and Stormy Daniels. | ||
| The American people know what's going on. | ||
| You guys know what's going on. | ||
| You guys know why President Trump is here. | ||
| Why is he here? | ||
| Right there. | ||
| Political persecution. | ||
| They can't beat him. | ||
| They can't beat him and everybody knows it. | ||
| The polls are showing it right now. | ||
| They couldn't beat him. | ||
| They tried to take him out with the Russian scandals. | ||
| They tried to impeach him multiple times. | ||
| And the American people also know that he could have retired down to Florida and lived the American dream. | ||
| But he came back. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he sees what's happening in this country. | ||
| And this is just one more example of it. | ||
| What I'm forgetting is these members of Congress saying, we're here to support him and the American legal system is illegitimate and corrupt. | ||
| And the judge is corrupt. | ||
| And let me tell you about the judge's family. | ||
| And that is just a wholly different thing. | ||
| It is a hard thing to have people in very high office committing crimes in this country. | ||
| It was hard with Nixon. | ||
| It was hard with Agnew. | ||
| It's hard with Trump. | ||
| There's a reason that sitting presidents can't get prosecuted. | ||
| Like, it's all very difficult. | ||
| But when instead you've got a political party saying the American legal system should be gotten rid of because it's corrupt. | ||
| And the people involved in it are corrupt and bad and evil and persecuting you and me. | ||
| That is something totally different. | ||
| That is corrosive to the legal system at a minimum and potentially fundamentally destructive to it if that's going to become the new platform on which the Republican Party makes the case to the American people that they should be put back in full power. | ||
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Motion to adjourn, Mr. Chairman. | |
| I think these 17-hour days might not work for us. | ||
| Something about working, huh? | ||
| Yeah, maybe showing up for a vote. | ||
| You have a lot to say, being that you're on retainer for the judge's daughter. | ||
| Sorry, trust Funken. | ||
| Mr. Chairman. | ||
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We should strike those roads, too! | |
| I hope you brought your popcorn. | ||
| I'll strike those after we strike the fact that they were making comments about Marjorie's body. | ||
| Mr. Chairman, this is out of control. | ||
| We should adjourn, Mr. Chairman. | ||
| Motion at the desk. | ||
| Mr. Chairman. | ||
| I think my body's pretty good. | ||
| I'm going to be 50 this month. | ||
| Point of order. | ||
| I am. | ||
| I turned 50. | ||
| Mr. Chairman. | ||
| It's me. | ||
| Ms. | ||
| Crockett. | ||
| I'm just curious, just to better understand your ruling, if someone on this committee then starts talking about somebody's bleach-blind, bad-built, butch body, that would not be engaging in personalities, correct? | ||
| Uh-oh, what now? | ||
| Chairman, I make a motion to strike those words. | ||
| I don't think that's a part of it. | ||
| I'm trying to find clarification on what quality... Chairman, motion to strike those words. | ||
| I have no idea what you just said. | ||
| We're not gonna do this. | ||
| Look, you guys earlier literally just... You just voted to do it! | ||
| You just voted to do it! | ||
| Order! | ||
| Order! | ||
| I'm trying to get clarification. | ||
| Look it, calm down. | ||
| Calm down. | ||
| No, no, no, because this is what y'all do. | ||
| Hey, Ms. | ||
| Crockett, you're not recognized. | ||
| Ms. | ||
| Crockett. | ||
| I can't hear you with your yelling. | ||
| Calm down. | ||
| Can you please calm down? | ||
| No! | ||
| Don't tell me to calm down! | ||
| Calm down. | ||
| Because y'all talk noise, and then you can't take it! | ||
| You're out of control. | ||
| Look, Chairman, can we send y'all to take a break for five minutes? | ||
| Mr. Chairman! | ||
| Mr. Chairman! | ||
| All right, Chair, okay. | ||
| Ordered pursuant to this vote, the committee hereby adopts the report recommending that | ||
| the House of Representatives find Attorney General Merrick Garland in contempt of Congress | ||
| for refusal to comply with a subpoena duly issued by this committee. | ||
| We will move the report to the full House. | ||
| Without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, cuz we're going medieval on these people. | |
| Peace. | ||
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| It's Friday, 17 May in the year of the Lord 2024. A tale of two cities and a firestorm in both. | ||
| Yesterday, the House Freedom Caucus, led by Congressman Bob Good, goes to New York City to defend President Trump in front of the nation. | ||
| Then last night, the Oversight Committee, following on the Judiciary Committee earlier in the day, complete firestorm defying Merrick Garland in contempt of Congress about the subpoenas over the tapes. | ||
| Of course, the White House exerted executive privilege. | ||
| We have Congressman Good from Virginia Five here with us today. | ||
| Congressman, tell us first about New York City and then about Mayor Garland. | ||
| You have one president exerting executive privilege. | ||
| Justice Department fine with that. | ||
| You have President Trump up in a kangaroo court in New York City. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| It indeed is a kangaroo court. | ||
| You've got a corrupt judge. | ||
| You've got a corrupt prosecutor. | ||
| You've got a corrupt ex-con as the star witness. | ||
| And it was a privilege to go up and support the president, to have his back, to say the things that this corrupt judge is trying to prohibit him from saying with this gag order, this incredible, egregious gag order, which is trying to prevent President Trump as a As a defendant from having a fair trial, from being able to defend himself in the court of public opinion about speaking about his innocence, speaking about what's happening to him in this courtroom. | ||
| But in the courtroom itself, I was able to have a front row seat there for a couple hours with my House Freedom Caucus colleagues. | ||
| And you saw the so-called star witness, the ex-con, Mr. Cohn, Multiple times, six, seven times admit that he's perjured himself, that he's lied under oath. | ||
| And in addition to admit that he wants to personally get the president, he wants to personally harm President Trump. | ||
| He wants to see harm come to him because he's got a personal vendetta because he blames President Trump for whatever he has suffered legally for his behavior, for his breaking the law, for his perjury and so forth. | ||
| So this is on full display what the Democrat Party will do Uh, to try to rig the next election. | ||
| We know about what they did in 2020, but here in 24, of course, they first tried to keep President Trump off the ballot. | ||
| Thankfully, the Supreme Court put an end to that. | ||
| Now they're trying to weigh him down by keeping him off the campaign trail, trying to strain or drain his resources. | ||
| Ideally, they'd like to put him in jail. | ||
| If they can get a crooked court in Georgia or New York or Florida or Washington to convict him of something and to take him off the campaign trail by putting him in jail, he'll ultimately be cleared of all these false, ridiculous charges. | ||
| But it may take appeal to do that with these crooked courts. | ||
| He's certainly not getting a fair shake at this point. | ||
| And this judge, as you know, to be the one whose daughter is raising tens of millions of dollars for the Democrat Party off this very trial. | ||
| So it was a privilege to have his back. | ||
| I was thankful that my House Freedom Caucus colleagues came and stood up for the president and said what he's not able to say. | ||
| We'd like to hold you through Breaker and go to break in a second. | ||
| Just a question. | ||
| Was it 12, 15 House Freedom Caucus members who were able to garner to get up there? | ||
| It was a true show of force. | ||
| How many? | ||
| Yeah, well, what they told us, there's 10 that are allowed in the courtroom at a time. | ||
| So that's the number that we had. | ||
| And then we're going to hopefully be having some go up very soon again. | ||
| Congressman Good, if you just hold on, I've got a couple more questions. | ||
| I want to talk about Merrick Garland. | ||
| I also want to address, and maybe we play briefly when we come back, Rachel Maddow. | ||
| Going specifically after you and some of your colleagues, you're one of the most powerful members of Congress, being the head of the House Freedom Caucus, which I think people recognize as the most powerful caucus in all the Congress. | ||
| Bob Good from Virginia Five on the other side. | ||
| Jeff Clark is with us. | ||
| Scott Besant. | ||
| Big article in Bloomberg today about Scott Besant. | ||
| As Secretary of the Treasury. | ||
| We'll talk all about that when he joins us. | ||
| Birchgold.com. | ||
| I've got Philip Patrick. | ||
| He can't do it during the week because they're too busy taking your calls and working with you, their clients and customers. | ||
| He's going to be with me tomorrow. | ||
| Birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| Is these members of Congress saying we're here to support him and the American legal system is illegitimate and corrupt? | ||
| And the judge is corrupt. | ||
| And let me tell you about the judge's family. | ||
| And that is just a wholly different thing. | ||
| It is a hard thing to have people in very high office committing crimes in this country. | ||
| It was hard with Nixon. | ||
| It was hard with Agnew. | ||
| It's hard with Trump. | ||
| There's a reason that sitting presidents can't get prosecuted. | ||
| Like, it's all very difficult. | ||
| But when instead you've got a political party saying the American legal system should be gotten rid of because it's corrupt. | ||
| And the people involved in it are corrupt and bad and evil and persecuting you and me. | ||
| That is something totally different. | ||
| That is corrosive to the legal system at a minimum and potentially fundamentally destructive to it if that's going to become the new platform on which the Republican Party makes the case to the American people that they should be put back in full power. | ||
| Okay, we have Bob Good from the, he's chairman of the very powerful House Freedom Caucus, arguably the most powerful caucus in all of Congress, and clearly in the Republican Party as they set the agenda for MAGA. | ||
| Congressman Good, your response to Rachel Maddow, I think she twists, I've never heard you say that our judicial, our system as a system Well, a lot of people in my district are really concerned about what Rachel Maddow has to say. | ||
| I can tell you, I get asked a lot about Rachel Maddow. | ||
| The next time will be the first time. | ||
| But, you know, she's right in the sense that the danger of this, but not in the way that she means it. | ||
| I think she forgot Clinton and Biden on her list Of individuals who are corrupt and who who have abused power and ought to be held accountable. | ||
| Certainly Joe Biden and his family, the most corrupt presidential family in the history of the country. | ||
| We could go on and on about that, and obviously he should be held accountable for that. | ||
| But perhaps among the greatest harms that the administration has done to the country these last three and a half years is the loss of faith and trust in once sacred institutions. | ||
| Our judicial system, our system of justice in this country, our federal law enforcement. | ||
| And it demonstrates the harm that's done to the country when you elect people, Joe Biden at least, or to allegedly elect people who will abuse their power. | ||
| They're not even pretending anymore. | ||
| They're colluding with big tech to suppress free speech and freedom of expression and sharing of information to suppress political opponents. | ||
| To use the full power of the federal law enforcement to go after pro-life protesters and concerned parents who show up at school board meetings and those who are exercising their Second Amendment rights to go after political opponents to try to put them in jail like we've talked about. | ||
| The great harm that's being done that threatens our very existence as a constitutional republic. | ||
| Does anyone think we could survive four and a half more years of this? | ||
| So it is at stake, it is at risk, and that's why the American people are going to overwhelmingly elect President Trump. | ||
| They're worse off by every standard of measurement than they were three and a half years ago. | ||
| Everyone knows they were safer, they were more prosperous, they were more free, they were more secure under President Trump. | ||
| By every standard of measurement. | ||
| They know they can't beat him at the ballot box. | ||
| They know that they're heading for disaster in November. | ||
| And that's why they're again trying to steal the election by destroying our nominee, by destroying President Trump. | ||
| It's not going to work. | ||
| The American people aren't going to stand for it. | ||
| But that's why we needed to go to New York City and have his back and to stand up for him. | ||
| And every Republican ought to be doing that. | ||
| Are we hurtling towards a constitutional crisis? | ||
| Two committees marked up contempt charges on Garland yesterday for trying to protect Biden and the executive privilege. | ||
| Are we hurtling toward a constitutional crisis here in the next week or two? | ||
| Well, it is incredible, Steve, that Garland has asserted, basically, that he doesn't think that his department should be accountable to Congress. | ||
| No, we're not three co-equal branches of government. | ||
| It's the legislative branch. | ||
| That's why Article I comes first. | ||
| That's why it is the longest article in the Constitution. | ||
| It's the legislative branch. | ||
| It's the people's representatives that are supposed to be the most powerful. | ||
| We're the only ones that are directly accountable to the people, particularly the House of Representatives. | ||
| And so, yes, we're the only ones who can hold accountable, bring transparency, bring consequence. | ||
| We can do it through the power of the purse. | ||
| We've not shown a willingness to do that. | ||
| Sadly and unfortunately, I will acknowledge not all Republicans have been willing to do that. | ||
| We also can do it through the hearings. | ||
| And that's why I'm glad that judiciary and oversight are going after Garland for his unwillingness to turn over the audio tapes of Joe Biden. | ||
| He doesn't want the American people to see Congressman Good, where do people go for your site to find out more about you, social media, all of it? | ||
| We may be facing that kind of a constitutional crisis, to your question. | ||
| Congressman Good, where do people go for your site to find out more about you? | ||
| Social media, all of it, where they go? | ||
| At Rep. | ||
| Bob Good, good.house.gov and bobgoodforcongress.com. | ||
| I know you take this very seriously coming from the part of the Commonwealth | ||
| of Virginia, God's country, where both James Madison and Thomas Jefferson came from. | ||
| So thank you very much, sir, for doing this. | ||
| And thanks for your leadership yesterday. | ||
| Very impressive. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Great to be with you. | ||
| Keep up the fight, my friend. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| I think we've got a cold open for Jeff Clark, who was also up in New York City yesterday. | ||
| Let's play the cold open and bring Jeff in. | ||
| Rose in court reserved for Trump's guests were so bloated with members of the pick-me caucus elected Republicans transparently and vainly seeking Trump's recognition and praise that one of his advisors reportedly asked some of them to sit in the back of the room. | ||
| They were out of room. | ||
| The only thing more humiliating than that is the fact that in attending court today, those Republicans, either wittingly or unwittingly, sacrificed their House majority for the day. | ||
| That body's oversight committee had to reschedule a hearing this morning on contempt charges for Attorney General Merrick Garland, likely because so many Republicans were at Trump's trial. | ||
| Just one political stunt running up against another political stunt. | ||
| And again, like a bad sitcom, there were weird crossovers from other Trump trials. | ||
| Our producer in the room today noticed right away that Jeffrey Clark, yes, that Jeffrey Clark of oil spill fame, an architect of the fake electors plot, Jeffrey Clark on the short list to be the next Attorney General. | ||
| Also, Nicole Wallace. | ||
| Brother Clark, give me your summary. | ||
| First off, your thoughts. | ||
| Let's take New York City, since she went there. | ||
| Give us your thoughts. | ||
| We couldn't hear you that clearly because of the weather. | ||
| Tell us your thoughts from the show of force yesterday to protect President Trump and what you saw in the courtroom. | ||
| Sure, Steve. | ||
| Well, look, what Rachel Maddow and Nicole Wallace will do is they'll try to portray Members of Congress going up to support President Trump and others going up to support President Trump is some kind of nefarious activity, the likes of which has never been seen before. | ||
| But I was struck by the fact that while they tried to talk about the quote-unquote public attending the trial, the actual courtroom was filled by far with more leftist figures from the so-called mainstream media than anybody else. | ||
| Or practitioners of journal lawfare. | ||
| People like Norm Eisen were there. | ||
| Lawrence O'Donnell was there. | ||
| Ari Melber was there. | ||
| Kyle Cheney was there. | ||
| It was a veritable who's who of, you know, folks on the left who are constantly attacking President Trump. | ||
| They were occupying most of the seats. | ||
| So from that perspective alone, right, what's the problem with a group of our elected officials attending the trial to observe what's happening? | ||
| particularly because it is a clear attempt to interfere in the 2024 presidential election. | ||
| And those members of Congress have an interest in oversight, even of what happens in the states. | ||
| And we know that Alvin Bragg is resisting efforts to see himself be called to account and having to | ||
| account for his actions in Congress. So it's a totally legitimate function being exercised by | ||
| these members of Congress. And yet the Nicole Walsh's of the world try to portray it as if | ||
| you know it's some kind of dagger at the Republic. | ||
| Are we hurtling towards a constitutional crisis? | ||
| Is what happened yesterday backing Capitol Hill? | ||
| I mean, you've got all of this in New York, the law fair. | ||
| You've seen a great amount of these people are now on meltdown. | ||
| Once again, we're the bad guys, right? | ||
| Because we're challenging this corruption and want to reform this corruption. | ||
| But what happened on Capitol Hill? | ||
| What happened between the White House yesterday, executive privilege? | ||
| Are we hurtling towards a constitutional crisis here? | ||
| Look, Steve, I think, you know, we may well be. | ||
| You know, my takeaway from what happened yesterday is, you know, they want to have their cake and eat it, too. | ||
| So, you know, I think they may have even ginned up the documents case against President Trump, recognizing that they had a problem once they discovered that Biden, back when he was a senator and a vice president, and so had no— Stop. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| That is exactly my point. | ||
| It's been my point from the beginning. | ||
| I want to hit rewind because you're a great legal scholar and a great legal mind. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I think it's becoming clear now, particularly they're going to the mattresses about these tapes and they're going to the mattress about Biden's participation in documents. | ||
| And I've said from that even the timing of all this looks strange. | ||
| Do you agree with me that there's something odd about this, something weird about this, and why they're throwing down so hard on this Biden situation? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Look, and, you know, I'd been on your program early on in the Biden document scandal about the Biden Pen Center, the suspicions, their activity, you know, Kathy Chung and the fact that she got lawyered up with, you know, lawyers who are, you know, at the highest tiers of the profession, you know, and white collar practitioners in D.C. | ||
| It's very suspicious. | ||
| So what I was going to say about that That's not the right time period. | ||
| know, Biden didn't have any ability to keep those documents. | ||
| We have him on tape saying to his biographer, hey, I found the classified documents in | ||
| my garage, right? So and then, you know, later we have her saying, well, you know, he's a | ||
| kindly old man who might be sympathetic to the jury. You know, he might have a poor | ||
| memory, etc. That's not the right time period. The right time period for assessing his | ||
| conduct is at the time when he was actually making the documents first and foremost, and then second, | ||
| using them to make $8 million for a book advance with his biographer. | ||
| So what I was going to say in terms of the cake-and-eat-it-too point is, when they set up Robert Herr, they tell us, oh, he's oh-so-independent, he doesn't have any ties to Biden, he can totally go off and do what he wants. | ||
| So then if that's true, if he's somehow not part of The executive branch of the government in some way, in however limited a fashion, and he does interviews of Biden, then why can't Congress get access to those precisely on the theory that there couldn't be any executive privilege if they're talking to someone who executive privilege doesn't cover? | ||
| But what they're going to say, Steve, is they're going to set it up as a fight between the Biden White House and Congress, and they're going to just imagine that Robert Hurd dropped off the face of the earth. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Hang on for one second, Jeff. | ||
| I just want to hold him for a break. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. | |
| Okay, Ben Harnaw is going to join us in a second. | ||
| I just want to make sure the audience understands. | ||
| How far ahead of the curve you are as an audience more than anybody else in media. | ||
| And here's why. | ||
| It is on Friday, May 17th, 2024. | ||
| The New York Times, the paper of record of our beloved Republic, cover right hand column. | ||
| That means lead story. | ||
| As you can see, NATO considers sending troops to Ukraine. | ||
| How many years have we said this from the beginning? | ||
| NATO considering sending troops to Ukraine. | ||
| Sub-headline. | ||
| Or Susan, down here. | ||
| Ukraine's manpower shortage. | ||
| You can see right there. | ||
| I'm going to get to Ben Harner in a minute. | ||
| Ukraine's manpower shortage. | ||
| The reason that they're thinking of sending 150,000 advisors and people that can train. | ||
| Remember that from Vietnam? | ||
| 150,000 NATO advisors. | ||
| I know it doesn't coincide at all with Tony Blinken being over there having his nightclub gig. | ||
| NATO considering sending troops. | ||
| We're going to get to that in just one minute. | ||
| We've got a cold open for Ben Harnwell. | ||
| He joins us live from Rome. | ||
| Back to Jeff Clark. | ||
| Jeff, this is going to be a long, hot summer, dude. | ||
| And it's starting already. | ||
| Yesterday was a throwdown. | ||
| And last night on Capitol Hill was about as wild as I've ever seen it. | ||
| Tempers were short. | ||
| But the stakes are quite high. | ||
| Talk to me. | ||
| Where are we? | ||
| They're trying to hide something. | ||
| Do you agree? | ||
| If there's no problem, we've got the transcripts. | ||
| Why can't we hear the audio tape? | ||
| And why don't we have a videotape, brother? | ||
| Those are very good questions, Steve. | ||
| I'm sure you remember back to Ken Starr being the independent counsel before that statute lapsed. | ||
| We were treated to video excerpts, the American public was, of Clinton under fire, right, as part of that process and having to squirm in the chair, etc, right? | ||
| I mean, you know, this is the reason why oftentimes in modern litigation in America, there are videotaped depositions because you get information that you don't get from a cold transcript. | ||
| You get to see people, you know, actually react to the questions, their body language, their facial expressions, etc. | ||
| And also the tone of voice, you get that from an audio tape, right? | ||
| But you get, you know, increasing levels of information depending on whether you just have a transcript that a court reporter does, whether you have an audio tape, whether you have a video tape. | ||
| And, you know, why didn't her go, you know, the full Monty here and get that information so that the American people can see? | ||
| And again, you know, it's one thing, right, if an advisor to the president goes into the Oval Office and they have a discussion. | ||
| You know, and Congress says, we want to get that. | ||
| I mean, that's classically executive privileged. | ||
| But if you have this figure who's supposedly doing an independent investigation, that should be turned over to Congress on their very own theory. | ||
| But they're magically going to ignore that theory now. | ||
| They're going to have Merrick Garland say, oh, this is very confidential. | ||
| This cuts at the heart of what the executive branch does. | ||
| But I have the same question you have. | ||
| Like, if we got the transcript, why can't we get the audio tape? | ||
| What are they hiding? | ||
| Jeff, how can people get more information? | ||
| You've been at the cutting edge of all this. | ||
| Obviously the paper, our papers say all the time, Washington Post, New York Times, you're on the short list to either be White House Counsel or the Attorney General. | ||
| People want to find out more about you and your work over at CRA. | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| I'm at JeffClarkUS on Twitter, X, and Getter, and I'm at RealJeffClark on TruthSocial, and you can follow all of the work, especially as we ramp up still more with expanding personnel at the Center for Renewing America, which is AmericaRenewing.com. | ||
| Jeff, thank you so much for joining us today and thank you so much for going up yesterday and having the President's back and then coming out and reporting in very difficult circumstances. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Jeff Clark. | ||
| Okay, I got a cold open. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, we're pulling him into the morning show this morning because we have very big news and you need to know about it because this is going to drive a lot and this comes after, and Ben Harnwell is the guy that called it, after the House Republicans bailed out Biden. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play it. | ||
| Front page story of the New York Times today. | ||
| NATO allies are inching closer to sending troops into Ukraine to train Ukrainian forces. | ||
| We know how much President Biden has prized, revitalized the NATO alliance. | ||
| Its 75th summit will be this summer held in Washington. | ||
| But take us to this decision. | ||
| There's real risk here too. | ||
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Well, it wouldn't be combat troops. | |
| We're probably talking about trainers. | ||
| Right now, the training of Ukraine has taken place in places like Poland, and the idea is just to step it up, and to have more people on scene, and probably give them a little bit more tactical advice. | ||
| And I think it's a reflection that the trajectory of the war is moving against Ukraine. | ||
| What we've seen in the last few months, in part because of the delay in U.S. | ||
| military aid for several months, and then also because Russia's really geared up, in part because of Chinese help, North Korean and Iranian help, and their own wartime economy, The tide of the battle is turning against Ukraine. | ||
| Not decisively, but the trend is clear. | ||
| And I think what you're beginning to see are people in NATO saying, what can we do to stem this momentum? | ||
| And that's why we're going to probably see this step of having trainers inside Ukraine itself. | ||
| That's Haas from the Council on Foreign Relations. | ||
| That's a bald-faced lie right there. | ||
| We've been dead spot on on everything in Ukraine from the beginning, including this one most importantly. | ||
| Right there if they can see it. | ||
| Look at my underline down there. | ||
| This is one thousand percent. | ||
| Because they ain't got the 27-year-olds, 500,000 that the two generals they cashiered said they needed. | ||
| They're 500,000 troops short. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Because the moms and dads in Ukraine, the moms and dads in Ukraine have gotten them out at $5,000 and $10,000 a shot. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because the mothers and fathers in Ukraine do not want their sons and daughters thrown into the charnel house, thrown into the charnel house of the Ukrainian front. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, what do you got for us? | ||
| Steve, well this is a very dramatic manoeuvre. | ||
| Good morning to you. | ||
| And I think it just illustrates somewhat the precarious nature that America is in, and also that NATO is in. | ||
| Your cold open there said that this is evidence that Biden is revitalising NATO, one of his key ambitions. | ||
| I don't quite know if that's true. | ||
| I think it's more cases splitting NATO, because NATO's position here, considering the European | ||
| contingent is very much 50-50 on this. | ||
| And as you saw, and I say that, I mean that euphemistically. | ||
| We had the poll, didn't we, a couple of days ago, which had not, there was not a single | ||
| European member state that actually wants to send ground troops into NATO. | ||
| So I think what we see here, Steve, is the difficulty that Biden is in. | ||
| This is, we're six months away from the American elections. | ||
| Biden cannot afford for Kiev to fall, and we're waiting on a daily basis for Kharkiv, | ||
| Ukraine's second largest city, to fall. | ||
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We can't, America cannot afford Biden- Hold, hold, hold, slow down, slow down, slow | |
| down, stop, full stop. | ||
| Talk to us about the American people. | ||
| You've had the Secretary of State go over there. | ||
| You've seen what's happened. | ||
| The parents refuse to send their kids. | ||
| They're 500,000 combat troops short. | ||
| They're talking about 150,000 NATO troops as advisors and as trainers. | ||
| That's all BS. | ||
| These are going to be combat troops. | ||
| But talk about the buried lead. | ||
| Kharkiv is about to fall, the second most important city in Ukraine, sir. | ||
| Am I correct in that? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, we're expecting on a day-by-day basis. | ||
| You can tell that the situation is touch and go because the conflicting news reports are coming out from all quarters, day by day. | ||
| Some say that Ukraine is holding on to these five villages towards the eastern frontier of Kharkiv. | ||
| And others are saying that, you know, then they're sort of contradicting themselves with hourly updates of their own online articles saying, no, no, | ||
| no, Russia is taking these. | ||
| So basically, I just draw the note that Boris Kistorius, the German defense minister, and | ||
| we did cover this on the show in real time, here in a visit to Washington, came out and | ||
| said that he thinks it's going to be a good idea to reintroduce conscription in Germany | ||
| that would require a constitutional amendment to do that in order to confront the Russian | ||
| aggression. | ||
| We know that we're just not in a position, not. | ||
| not interested in invading Germany. | ||
| So obviously the question is if they're going to introduce conscription right now in the | ||
| face of Russian aggression, this is with a view to sending troops to Ukraine. | ||
| Obviously they can't come out and say the same thing in the United States because it | ||
| is massively unpopular. | ||
| Biden has this election to win and as much as the House GOP and the Senate GOP are trying | ||
| to help him. | ||
| Please. | ||
| No, no, no, but here's what, Grace and Mo, you gotta get this New York Times and let's get it to the archives so that people can read it. | ||
| You must read this story today because the lies and misrepresentations are all there, but they've got buried leaves where the truth comes out. | ||
| This is about Ukraine's manpower shortage has reached a critical point. | ||
| Now, later in the sub-headline, for now, U.S. | ||
| resisting move that would pull it deeper into the war. | ||
| Would pull it deeper into the war. | ||
| This is Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan all over again. | ||
| You read down here, you got down here, so far the United States has said no to trainers | ||
| or introduction of NATO troops. | ||
| But General Charles Q. Brown, Jr., the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said on Thursday | ||
| that a NATO deployment of trainers appeared inevitable, quote, will get there eventually | ||
| over time, end quote. | ||
| Folks you got to be light in the fight. | ||
| This is exactly the reason we shouldn't have sent the $61 billion over there. | ||
| This is exactly the reason that we should have forced Biden to come on the War Powers Act to explain and lay out a strategy. | ||
| We're being sucked into this. | ||
| Ben Harnwell nailed it. | ||
| The Republican House under Johnson bailed out Biden on the worst military disaster I don't know, since the collapse of Antietam, let's say. | ||
| Antietam was actually, I guess, I would say maybe a victory for the North. | ||
| Let me think about that for a second. | ||
| But a total military fiasco. | ||
| And now you've got, they're actually telling you they're going to insert combat troops. | ||
| Oh, they're going to call them trainers at first. | ||
| The chairman of the Joint Chiefs said, we're going to get there eventually. | ||
| Incrementalism. | ||
| They're going to lay it in there and then you're going to get American troops over there killed. | ||
| And next thing you're going to know, just like Gulf of Tonkin, all of this, we're going to be putting more people in there. | ||
| This Ukraine situation is about to spin out of control. | ||
| The parents of the young Ukrainian men and women are saying, no, you will not take our children. | ||
| Because we understand this is a war to support Zelensky and his oligarchs. | ||
| When are the parents in this country going to stand up? | ||
| I know we don't have the draft, okay? | ||
| But think about the kids that are volunteers. | ||
| They're all going to go. | ||
| Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Steve, look, in terms of buried leaves in this article, so you have the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Brown, saying that it's inevitable that NATO is going to be sending troops into Ukraine and we just have to get there. | ||
| That's the same day, yesterday, the same day that the White House was also briefing the press, saying this is absolutely not going to happen. | ||
| Now, what I would suggest here, I mean, this is the point, this is how you can tell that the American people aren't interested in boots on the | ||
| ground in Ukraine because the administration is lying about it and yet trying to | ||
| achieve it by stealth. | ||
| The buried lead here that I wasn't aware is that the U.S. | ||
| administration had been pressuring Emmanuel Macron behind the scenes diplomatically to temper | ||
| down France's commitment to send troops in on the ground. | ||
| This is slightly confusing under a certain aspect, but of course it makes absolute sense | ||
| when you realize that in this six-month period between now and the election, the Biden administration | ||
| wants to keep absolute control on what is taking place in Ukraine. | ||
| It cannot afford to. | ||
| How are they going to justify, as you say, and you tell me Zelensky backs you up on this, Kharkiv. | ||
| under false pretenses to get in there, but they don't want the war to escalate. | ||
| How are they going to justify if, as you say, and you tell me Zelensky backs you up on this, | ||
| Kharkiv, if Kharkiv falls, how are they going to justify it? | ||
| It's the second biggest city in... | ||
| It's the second biggest city in Ukraine. | ||
| Once Kharkiv falls, there'll be flight out of Kiev like nobody's business into Poland, right? | ||
| I mean, Kharkiv falling is a military disaster of the highest order. | ||
| Do you agree with me? | ||
| Steve, I think Kiev, in terms of the highest order, that would be Kiev falling. | ||
| I'll tell you what I think, and this is what I would be looking for, the secret signs that this might be the case. | ||
| I'd be looking for anything that indicates the administration is making a back-channel outreach to Moscow, saying, we're going to send troops in, we want status quo, don't take Kharkiv, absolutely don't take Kiev up until November the 6th. | ||
| Basically, after November the 6th, you can do what you want, but up until then, Up until then, we talked about it. | ||
| Short break, back with Harnwell in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass. | |
| Okay, the War Room, Engine Room, I'm getting blown up right now. | ||
| Remember, in the Civil War, for the Confederacy, for the South, it was always by the name of the town. | ||
| In the Union, always named it by the body of water. | ||
| So for our Southerners, it's Sharpsburg, And for the Yankees, it was Antietam. | ||
| And let's just say the bloodiest day in American history. | ||
| We'll call it a draw. | ||
| Many strategic and tactical arguments on both sides, but let's just say it's a draw. | ||
| Not what we're facing here. | ||
| I'm telling you, it is incredibly, incredibly, incredibly dangerous what's happening. | ||
| We've argued this for a long time. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, we haven't forced Biden to come. | ||
| This is the, the bald face lies. | ||
| The $60 billion, they pretended that was going to take it. | ||
| Now they're talking about a 10-year plan to detrumpify, to stop President Trump so he can't take, can't do anything with the sanctions on the Russians for negotiating tool. | ||
| He can't put pressure on NATO with the 2% as a negotiating tool. | ||
| He cannot, he's gonna be hamstrung in everything he's gonna try to do to end this war. | ||
| Yet they still don't demand that Biden come forward and actually lay out a plan. | ||
| And as you know, Ben, because you're the first reporter, they're working on a 10-year financing | ||
| of what you dug up, the buried lead from one of their ministers that says it's going to | ||
| be hundreds of billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars to complete this fight. | ||
| Now the New York Times on the front page reporting that Chairman of the Joint Chiefs all behind | ||
| the scenes, troops, NATO troops are getting ready to go into Ukraine. | ||
| Of course, we're all gonna have, if you read the Pentagon papers, all the lies, they're | ||
| gonna go in as trainers first and advisors first. | ||
| They're essentially combat troops getting ready for the big push. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, thoughts? | ||
| Steve, there's one segment in this New York Times article which is a bold-faced lie. | ||
| And it says, as part of NATO, the United States would be obligated under the alliance's treaty to aid in the defense of any attack on the trainers. | ||
| Potentially dragging America into the war. | ||
| Look, that's a bold-faced lie. | ||
| As we've covered on the show, Article 5 simply says that NATO allies can take, and I quote, such action as the NATO ally deems necessary, including the use of armed force to retain, restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. | ||
| This is absolutely an escalation. | ||
| It's very concerning that it's being done by stealth. | ||
| It's very concerning that the administration, even on the very day that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is saying that it's inevitable, that the administration itself is putting out the line, reinforcing the line, that it's not going to send NATO trainers into Ukraine. | ||
| And that's all very concerning. | ||
| But however, the saving grace here, and of course, NATO doesn't override the acts of Congress. | ||
| You have the War Powers Resolution, I think it's 1973, that still is operative. | ||
| Congress can, should, I would say must assert its prerogatives here in this situation. | ||
| But because of course the scenario is with NATO trainers there, this would give a pretext | ||
| to kicking off World War Three should these trainers be attacked. | ||
| And that's the whole point why up until now NATO has been training Ukrainian troops and | ||
| NATO allies have been training Ukrainian troops outside of Ukraine to not be in the direct | ||
| firing line of Russia. | ||
| So these things are going on. | ||
| But I think now Congress pressure needs to be put, huge pressure, massive political pressure | ||
| needs to be put on the useless, low-T Mike Johnson to insist with regards to the White | ||
| House that the War Pact resolution should be operative, Congress should have the final | ||
| say. | ||
| And the other thing I would absolutely insist on is I want to know what was in this intelligence | ||
| briefing that Mike Johnson read that caused him to U-turn, stab Maga in the back and authorize | ||
| the 61 billion, which we now know was never going to be enough. | ||
| We know this, as you were mentioning, thanks to the Ukrainian justice minister, who said it was going to require hundreds of billions in order to win the war. | ||
| We need to know what this information Ben, how do people get to your social media, particularly over the next couple of days? | ||
| potentially boots on the ground can make an informed decision between now and November. | ||
| Ben, how do people get to your social media, particularly over the next couple of days? | ||
| Thanks, Steve. Getter, my social media platform of choice. | ||
| Tap in my surname, Harnwell, and there I am. Thanks so much, Steve. God bless. | ||
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| Mike Lindell, Newsweek's got a big story about you and the beautiful historic state flag of the great state of Minnesota. | ||
| I know you're going to be with the President later today. | ||
| You're going to make a big deal about this. | ||
| Newsweek's saying you're on the warpath about the Islamic flag that now flies over the capital of Minnesota. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| Well, it's true. | ||
| We are very upset, and I'm saying all people in Minnesota. | ||
| Everyone I talked to about the last few days, it's just like, who picked this? | ||
| Who got involved in this? | ||
| And Steve, they narrowed it down, I believe, to eight flags, and five of them had the Islamic ties to the Islamic star | ||
| in the flags. | ||
| It's going like, you can't make this stuff up. | ||
| The people didn't get a choice in this. | ||
| They put in, there were flags that were put in for, hey, we'll take a look at everything. | ||
| Well, who is this committee that looked? | ||
| And then why wasn't this stopped? | ||
| And we're not gonna let it go. | ||
| There's stuff that's been going on in Minnesota with this Islam for quite a long time right now, and we're not going to take it anymore. | ||
| This is disgusting. | ||
| We have the beautiful flag where our roots came from here, the Scandinavian roots in Minnesota. | ||
| our beautiful lakes and everything else and now look what you got on the right. | ||
| It's just it's horrible. Do you think this could start to because Minnesota's | ||
| right on the edge of flipping, Maggan flipping for Trump. | ||
| President Trump lost it by under 1% in 16. I mean he was on me all the time and | ||
| I said look we don't we only got enough time we could barely got enough time for | ||
| for Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. | ||
| But he was right, and I was wrong. | ||
| If we had carved out more time for him to spend, we would have flipped Minnesota in 16. | ||
| We got 30 seconds. | ||
| I'm going to hold you through the break. | ||
| Do you think that this type of issue that could unite Democrats' independence with Republicans? | ||
| A hundred percent, Steve. | ||
| Our whole program we have running right now, Flipping Democrats, this is just one thing to add on here in Minnesota. | ||
| Minnesota, I believe we can flip, Minnesota. | ||
| Everywhere you talk, this is uniting the people. | ||
| One more thing, they ram it down our throat and we don't want it. | ||
| It's the opposite. | ||
| Evil is greedy, Steve, and it's helping us, actually. | ||
| Evil is greedy. | ||
| 90-second break. | ||
| Scott Besant, big article on Bloomberg about him being the next Secretary of Treasury. |
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