May 17, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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No branch of government that Michael Cohen has not lied to. | |
| He lied to investigators. | ||
| He lied to the judge who sentenced him. | ||
| He lied to the United States Congress. | ||
| And he committed these lies for his own benefit. | ||
| And while we're talking, About what we saw in that courtroom going on for people's own benefit. | ||
| We would be remiss if we did not mention this corrupt judge. | ||
| This judge whose own family is making six figures off of Democrat politics that continues to gaslight the country that there's some sort of crime committed by President Trump. | ||
| We're seeing today what lengths the Democrat Party will go to try to rig or steal another election. | ||
| They tried to do it in 2020. | ||
| They're doing it again here in 2024 by trying to keep the nominee off the ballot, by trying to keep the nominee from campaigning, by trying to ruin the nominee financially. | ||
| And we're seeing that today. | ||
| We saw the perjurer-in-chief, Michael Cohen, multiple times admit and acknowledge that he has lied under oath. | ||
| He's perjured himself, and yet we're supposed to believe his testimony as the star witness against President Trump. | ||
| This is lawfare, again to try to steal or to rig an election. | ||
| You got a corrupt prosecutor, you got a corrupt star witness, you got a corrupt judge. | ||
| Mr. Cohen admitted repeatedly that he lied. | ||
| leading fundraisers for the Democrat party, having raised some $100 million. | ||
| That's the judge's daughter. | ||
| This is a crooked sham trial to try to hurt the nominee. | ||
| It's gonna be the President of the United States, whether or not they like it | ||
| or whether or not they want that to happen. | ||
| President Trump is gonna be reelected. | ||
| Mr. Cohen, Mr. | ||
| Cohen admitted repeatedly that he lied. | ||
| He admitted repeatedly that he did so for his own personal interest. | ||
| That tells you everything you know about the lack of credibility of this case. | ||
| But if they had nothing to hide, and if they're truly being honest about this, why is it that you guys can't be in the courtroom and see exactly what we're seeing? | ||
| Just because we're members of Congress does not mean we have authority more than you guys to know exactly what's happening in that courtroom, just so that you are tracking. | ||
| And I want to follow it up by saying this. | ||
| It is by no coincidence that you have Goldman, a member of House Oversight who's a Democrat, prepared Colin for his testimony, is also retainered by the judge's daughter as a client. | ||
| Does that seem like it's not shame to you? | ||
| It is corrupt lawfare, it's the Biden prosecution, and Biden, you're gonna lose this election. | ||
| This isn't justice. | ||
| This is politics. | ||
| It's political warfare. | ||
| And we see it happening in third world countries all over the world. | ||
| I never thought I'd see it happening in the United States of America. | ||
| The fact that this trial, look at the timing of it. | ||
| Before the presidential primary, before the conventions, having Donald Trump sit here, their whole purpose is to keep him off the campaign trail so that he can't do what he does best. | ||
| You know what their intent is? | ||
| This is their intent to put him behind bars and the American people are going to say no. | ||
| They're not going to put an innocent man behind bars. I don't what care what kind of political | ||
| theater they want to keep going. This is a kangaroo court, pure and simple. | ||
| The radical left wants President Trump to simply go away. | ||
| And if President Trump just went away, this would all go away as well. | ||
| They do not want him to be in this race. | ||
| They know that he is the number one candidate for President of the United States for the 2024 election and they are doing everything that they can to interfere in yet another election. | ||
| Well, I got news for the radical left and the weaponized DOJ. | ||
| President Trump is not going anywhere. | ||
| He's coming back for another four years. | ||
| And we are not going anywhere either. | ||
| We are here to stand with him as he stands up for you, the American people. | ||
| This is not a prosecution. | ||
| This is a persecution. | ||
| We have a two-tier justice system in this country. | ||
| And if a former president can be targeted by a woke and corrupt judge, then you can be targeted as well. | ||
| The Biden administration's Department of Justice interfere in a case that should never have been brought in the first place. | ||
| We have a judge who has a conflict of interest. | ||
| We have a witness in Michael Cohen who admittedly, from the stand, admitted to lying under oath. | ||
| Under oath! | ||
| Look, if you ever wondered if there were two tiers of justice and if the American government was weaponized against its own citizens, you don't have to wonder anymore. | ||
| You don't have to wonder. | ||
| The American people are not stupid. | ||
| There are patriots in this nation who want to know the truth. | ||
| And we are here to support President Trump to do just that. | ||
| Well, we all know that the Biden team knows that they're not going to be able to win this election by doing the Biden basement tour again. | ||
| And so we saw just a couple of days ago, Trump in New Jersey, 100,000 people showing up. | ||
| This is the contrast that they do not want you to see. | ||
| And while we have a court with a corrupt judge and a convicted felon as the star witness, Placing a gag order on President Trump so that he can't be out here touching and winning the hearts of the minds of the American people, which he definitely has behind him. | ||
| I was only in that courtroom for about two hours and I heard Michael Cohen admit at least six times that he lied. | ||
| I mean, that's what this is about. | ||
| That tells you everything you need to know. | ||
| And this is the star witness, him and Stormy Daniels. | ||
| The American people know what's going on. | ||
| You guys know what's going on. | ||
| You guys know why President Trump is here. | ||
| Why is he here? | ||
| Right there. | ||
| Political persecution. | ||
| They can't beat him. | ||
| They can't beat him and everybody knows it. | ||
| The polls are showing it right now. | ||
| They couldn't beat him. | ||
| They tried to take him out with the Russian scandals. | ||
| They tried to impeach him multiple times. | ||
| And the American people also know that he could have retired down to Florida and lived the American dream. | ||
| But he came back. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he sees what's happening in this country. | ||
| And this is just one more example of it. | ||
| Have you ever seen it before where a gag order, instead of trying to protect, to make sure that the accused gets a fair trial, this gag order is to ensure that he cannot defend himself fairly. | ||
| So we're here to have his back, we're here to defend him, and to tell the truth about this travesty of justice, this political persecution, this election interference, This rigging of elections, this collusion between the Department of Injustice and these crooked courts in New York City, whether it's Michael Colangelo who went from the DOJ to New York City, whether it's Fannie Willis, his boyfriend, who billed the taxpayers of Georgia for time up here in New York City colluding with the Department of Justice, we are President Trump's boys. | ||
| We have his back. | ||
| He will ultimately be proven innocent. | ||
| Todd Blanche is continuing to press Michael Cohen on his lies and what he's now saying about those lies. | ||
| Blanche is saying, quote, by not telling Congress or the Senate that you had lied under oath, do you believe that you are omitting important information? | ||
| Paula Reid and Kristen Holmes back here with me. | ||
| And Paula, this is really important because Todd Blanche Seems to be gaining steam here in his cross-examination. | ||
| The judge just overruled an objection from the prosecution to that question there. | ||
| And this is exactly the line of questioning that tripped Michael Cohen up when he testified in Trump's civil fraud trial. | ||
| That's when he said basically, well, I didn't really plead guilty. | ||
| I just did it because I had to. | ||
| And the question was, were you lying then or were you lying now? | ||
| And Michael Cohen still does not seem to have a good answer or good defense for that. | ||
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There is no really good answer, and in the civil trial, he wound up getting in a really heated exchange. | |
| Some have described it as a yelling match with Trump's defense attorneys. | ||
| Now, our colleagues inside are reporting that jurors appear to be paying attention to this back and forth. | ||
| They're pretty attentive to everything, but they know right here Michael Cohen's credibility is on the line, and Todd Blanch, given a day off to kind of regroup, see how his approach on Tuesday works, he has been much more effective in undercutting Michael Cohen's credibility. | ||
| I reiterate, we still haven't gotten to the actual testimony in this case, what he has testified to on the stand. | ||
| But they're really laying the foundation that this man is a liar who refuses to accept responsibility. | ||
| Now we still have a long way to go. | ||
| And I just want to thank all the lawyers involved because they've been really working hard. | ||
| And I'm spending a lot of time and I'm spending a lot of money, which is what they want. | ||
| They want me to spend my time and my money. | ||
| And I'm willing to do it because ultimately we have to fight for the Constitution. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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Are you ready? | |
| This thing is imploding. | ||
| And it's interesting, Jake, there's a great parallel that developed today. | ||
| This case is going to turn on was the... | ||
| That phone call in October. | ||
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Was the motive here, President Trump trying to save his marriage or save his campaign? | |
| And now we have Mr. Cohen, who told this jury under oath, I called about Stormy Daniels. | ||
| Now he's trying to hurt a 14-year-old child. | ||
| So it's a really interesting parallel. | ||
| What kind of fink goes after a 14-year-old kid? | ||
| I'll get the Secret Service. | ||
| You ever hear of call block? | ||
| I mean, we get hate mail all the time. | ||
| You just block them. | ||
| I mean, this guy is a crumb. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| It's Thursday, 16 May in the year of our Lord 2024. | ||
| It has been explosive in New York City. | ||
| It's been explosive on Capitol Hill. | ||
| We're going to get it all covered in this hour and much, much more. | ||
| Welcome to The Worm. | ||
| Let's go right to New York City, our own Andrew Giuliani, Rav's man on the spot. | ||
| Andrew, tell us, it looked like it was explosive inside this courtroom today. | ||
| Talk to us about the lies of Michael Cohen. | ||
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Yeah, and I'm with Jeff Clark here as well, Steve. | |
| I have to tell you, the morning session ended with an absolute bang. | ||
| Todd Blanch brought back testimony that Cohen gave on Tuesday about a 96-second phone call that Cohen had had through Keith Schiller, Keith Schiller being President | ||
| Trump's longtime bodyguard, this being in October of 2016. When they went through that, Cohen had | ||
| said originally that this conversation was about Stormy Daniels. Well, I will say at that point Blanche | ||
| went through a text message conversation where it was all about Cohen talking about a | ||
| 14-year-old that was stalking him and he wanted Keith Schiller to call him about that. | ||
| He said that he would call him in 20 minutes. | ||
| About 20 minutes later, there was a 96 second phone call between Keith Schiller and Michael Cohen. | ||
| And the next day, Michael Cohen asked Keith Schiller of a follow-up about the family. | ||
| There was nothing about Stormy Daniels. | ||
| At that moment, Todd Blanche asked, did you lie about this? | ||
| Raised his voice. | ||
| I thought it was incredible effect for the jury. | ||
| And I thought, aside from getting an admission from Cohen that he perjured himself, I think he did everything he needed to, considering how much they set up Cohen as having perjured himself in the past. | ||
| Can Jeff Clark hear me? | ||
| Jeff, you're one of the most experienced lawyers around. | ||
| Tell me, you've been there all day. | ||
| What are your thoughts? | ||
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Sure, Steve. | |
| So, look, you know, the 14-year-old thing was pretty explosive for the legal reasons that Andrew's gone through. | ||
| But I just want to give you the atmospherics of the fact that they went through what Michael Cohen was doing to this kid, threatening him, threatening essentially to expose him to his parents. | ||
| And that, you know, 14-year-old sort of kind of denying it, like, it's not me, but please don't do that. | ||
| Please don't do that. | ||
| Because, you know, obviously he's 14 years old. | ||
| He knows he's good. | ||
| Like, you know, if Michael Cohen's coming after him, like, you know, he's in great fear. | ||
| You've got to be a real creep to do that to someone when you know that they're 14 years old. | ||
| It's not like he's dealing with, you know, someone from the press or someone who poses a physical threat to him. | ||
| It really is just revealing of Michael Cohen's character. | ||
| So that also came out. | ||
| You know, Steve, let me talk about Go ahead. | ||
| Yeah, please. | ||
| So today broke pretty early at around four, and then the judge heard from Neil Bovey about | ||
| the whole set of issues about the Federal Election Commission and about whether Brad | ||
| Smith would be allowed to testify as an expert witness for Trump or not, and what circumstances. | ||
| So it was Bovey versus Matt Colangelo, right? | ||
| So I got to see Matt Colangelo actually for the first time. | ||
| And look, Steve, I'm mystified. | ||
| I don't understand why this is not preempted, this whole attempt to basically criminalize | ||
| federal election law kind of a second time at a level of the move. | ||
| Why that's not preempted, why that's not barred by federal law. | ||
| And even if it's not preempted, there's a fallback argument that all of the issues are within the primary jurisdiction of the Federal Election Commission. | ||
| They're not within the jurisdiction of New York State Supreme Courts, and they're also within the jurisdiction of only the federal courts that can review the actions of the Federal Election Commission. | ||
| I don't think this case should have gotten off the ground before there was a determination of how these Novel election issues is mapped onto these facts. | ||
| It was first adjudicated by the Federal Election Commission and then by courts engaged in judicial review. | ||
| So, it's mystifying to me that Matthew Flangello just, you know, he butters the judge up and says, look judge, you don't need to hear from some fancy federal election expert from Trump. | ||
| Just listen to my legal arguments and you've already accepted them. | ||
| So, shut Trump down. | ||
| Rashad says, well, I'll study it some more, but I'm inclined to think you're right, Mr. Colangelo. | ||
| And so, Mr. Trump, you're going to have a very limited expert witness who can testify about what I'll call the Wikipedia level of the law. | ||
| What is the Federal Election Commission? | ||
| What's its structure? | ||
| That's not going to be helpful to the jury at all, not in the least. | ||
| So it's a true sham, and I think that it's something that's blatantly in violation of federal law. | ||
| Jeff, hang on for one second. | ||
| Andrew, you stay right there. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| We're going back to Manhattan. | ||
| Just a moment. | ||
| Okay, let's go back to Manhattan. | ||
| We have Dr. Seb Gorgerson joining us here in a moment to talk about this explosive, what happened on Capitol Hill today. | ||
| Let me go back to Andrew Giuliani and Jeff Clark in front of the court in Manhattan. | ||
| Andrew, tomorrow President Trump's going to be at his graduation. | ||
| That's been pre-planned that they're going to have a day off. | ||
| They did not finish with the cross-examination of Michael Cohen. | ||
| That's going to continue on Monday. | ||
| Walk me through the logic, the logistics of all this. | ||
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Well, yeah. | |
| Cross-examination is going to continue. | ||
| There was talk even at the end of the day after they dismissed the jury that cross-examination will likely be done in the morning tomorrow. | ||
| The prosecution won't call any more witnesses. | ||
| And the defense may only have one witness, but they are holding... Hold on. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Andrew, there's no court tomorrow. | ||
| Isn't that going to take place Monday? | ||
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Sorry, Monday. | |
| It's been a long week listening to Michael Cohen. | ||
| I've lost some brain cells. | ||
| Yes, Monday is actually the next time that they'll have court. | ||
| So you're right, Steve. | ||
| So hold it. | ||
| And are you saying that that's when the prosecution could come back and try to clean up Michael Cohen, right, on a rebuttal? | ||
| But then are they looking, is the defense going to call any more witnesses? | ||
| Are they going to rest their case? | ||
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Right now, the only one that they've committed to so far is an expert witness. | |
| But right now, they're keeping, basically, it open. | ||
| They're saying they're going to decide this weekend. | ||
| Steve, on a little bit of a different part, I think the importance of this weekend, and probably Jeff understands this even better than I do, I think that Trump team needs to be working double time this weekend to review every single thing that Cohen said on the stand over the last three days. | ||
| There's a very good chance that you're going to do that, Jeff. | ||
| In another perjury charge, if you actually look through this. | ||
| And so I would be billing your hours this weekend if you're the Trump team, considering you have the extra day. | ||
| Is President Trump then going to present after that, after the prosecution rests, do we have any sense of what their defense? | ||
| Are they going to start calling witnesses Tuesday, Wednesday of next week? | ||
| I guess Wednesday's court's off, but Tuesday, Thursday of next week? | ||
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Yeah, I mean, the defense could theoretically start calling their witnesses early as Monday. | |
| That probably won't be until Tuesday. | ||
| But again, the judge said, you know, be ready for summations by Tuesday. | ||
| So you're looking probably at Thursday or Friday, the latest of summations here. | ||
| So Jeff, what do you think? | ||
| Yeah, I think that Are you telling me that President Trump, at least as they said today, would present his defense in a day or two? | ||
| When they talk about summations, they mean summations in front of the jury? | ||
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Steve, I found that strange as well, but watching this entire case, I think it's based off of the credibility of Michael Cohen. | |
| They've still produced no documents that are not based off of Michael Cohen's word, and they have shredded it to a point that I think is irreparable, and I think they might just be getting further away from that testimony for the jury, and they might be thinking it might be better off to have that as fresh in the jury's mind as possible when they go and deliberate. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Jeff Clark, your thoughts. | ||
| You do this for a living. | ||
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Sure. | |
| So look, Todd Blanch also got an admission from Michael Cohen that all of his statements that he made, which basically said President Trump wasn't a party to the settlements contract and the nondisclosure agreement, you know, the money wasn't paid by him. | ||
| He admitted that all those statements were true. | ||
| In other words, to my mind, the whole prosecution theory of the case was fake. | ||
| Then he put out a press statement, which similarly he said was true. | ||
| And then he tried to, you know, weasel out of it and say, well, it was misleading. | ||
| But then, you know, Todd Blanche just nailed him. | ||
| Like, well, like, where's the misleadingness? | ||
| And then, you know, Cohen just sort of collapsed and said, you know, it's true. | ||
| So, you know, I don't see that there's much left to the case. | ||
| That might be what the defense is thinking. | ||
| But they're going to noodle over the weekend. | ||
| I think they are going to be burning the candle at both ends. | ||
| And the judge is also going to be doing that because he said he's going to produce a ruling on what the jury instructions are going to be, which is wrapped up in all of these complicated legal issues about how the Federal Election Commission issues work. | ||
| You know, there's a whole discussion of something, this will warm your heart, Steve, of something called the irrespective rule from the Federal Election Commission. | ||
| It's as abstruse and arcane as things go. | ||
| Jeff, help us out here, too, on Capitol Hill. | ||
| They voted out a committee of judiciary. | ||
| As you know, we opened the show with a supercut of, really, the House Freedom Caucus. | ||
| A lot of those people are on oversight. | ||
| They're going back to have their markup tonight. | ||
| The committee judiciary voted out this contempt charge to Merrick Garland for not producing | ||
| the audio tapes of Biden's conversations with his ghostwriter, which looks like a major | ||
| breach of national security in his classified documents case. | ||
| Walk us through, how important is this? | ||
| What a big deal, and particularly the White House coming in and exerting executive privilege | ||
| at the last second. | ||
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Sure. | |
| So, first, Steve, it's refreshing to see that the Republicans are finally fighting back. | ||
| It's taken a while, but it's time to, you know, take the gloves off and really start getting into the bare-knuckle boxing match on this. | ||
| Look, when they formed the January 6th committee, they brought in, you know, true pipe hitters, Steve. | ||
| They brought in, you know, a Democrat former U.S. | ||
| attorney, Tim Maffei. | ||
| They brought in a former Republican U.S. | ||
| attorney in Bush 43 from Missouri. | ||
| You know, that that was supposedly Liz Cheney's sort of, you know, bipartisanship that brought him in, but then plus a whole lot of assisted U.S. | ||
| attorneys. | ||
| You know, I think that the Republicans haven't responded with that same level of, you know, attack dog mode. | ||
| And the irony of it is that there's so much more here in terms of corruption. | ||
| Did we drop the? | ||
| We dropped the signal. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Let me go. | ||
| Let's see if we can get those guys back up. | ||
| I know the noise has been a little cumbersome there. | ||
| Seb, let's go to Dr. Seb Gorka. | ||
| We got Dr. Gorka up. | ||
| Seb, a lot of people have kind of put out of their mind the whole Biden part of this. | ||
| I know you haven't. | ||
| Today, a markup about criminal contempt. | ||
| Merrick Garland and the corrupt Justice Department on holding back the audio | ||
| tapes between the ghostwriter and Biden at the very last second when the | ||
| committee is about to have an open hearing and have it televised they call | ||
| Merrick Garland steps to the sticks and exerts the White House exerts executive | ||
| privilege your thoughts sir well first things first I'm outraged that | ||
| somebody's actually covering what's going on in the courtroom | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| It's the war room actually having analysis from that great American Rudy Sun. | ||
| God bless him and Mr. Clark as well. | ||
| How is it that nobody else in the media is actually Having analysis about what's happening in the courtroom as the president, the leader of the opposition, is facing 730 years in prison. | ||
| Oh, finally, the GOP realized that he's in court and they finally went down there. | ||
| So, it took them long enough, but seriously, I have to commend you guys with regards to your coverage inside the courtroom. | ||
| Yeah, you know, there's only one problem with this, the committee. | ||
| Proposing that the Attorney General should be held in contempt. | ||
| They didn't address it to the Attorney General because they addressed it to Merrick Garland. | ||
| Even President Trump on this show, what did he say? | ||
| Seriously, what did President Trump say on this show, on my show? | ||
| He said, yeah, Lisa Monaco, the woman who runs the DOJ. | ||
| I'd be impressed if Jim Jordan and the rest of them issued a subpoena for Obama's counterterrorism advisor, who President Trump has openly said is the person running the DOJ. | ||
| Whether it's, you know, the former station chief in London that was behind the Deep State, you know who I'm talking about, working for Brennan. | ||
| Whether it was, of course, you know, Susan Rice, or whether it is that Harridan Lisa Monaco, I'd like to see the Republicans on Capitol Hill actually target the people who are really running the country. | ||
| It's not the meat puppet Mary Garland. | ||
| It's not, what is it Dan Bongino calls him? | ||
| It's not the rotting bag of oatmeal who is Joe Biden. It's these these women, | ||
| these dry Haridans that are running the country and it's time the GOP actually | ||
| said it publicly because if President Trump can do it they should be able to | ||
| do it too, shouldn't they Steve? Amen. | ||
| Listen, have you ever, I know because you're a national security expert, you were with President Trump in the White House as my deputy strategist, but there for national security. | ||
| Aren't you concerned, we haven't had any analysis at all from a national security or intelligence perspective, exactly what Biden gave up. | ||
| What did Biden talk about? | ||
| They've got the tapes, they won't release them. | ||
| How big a deal is this? | ||
| Well, think about it, Steve. | ||
| It's not just the tapes, which is weird. | ||
| They're what? | ||
| They're imposing executive privilege? | ||
| I thought that doesn't exist anymore. | ||
| I thought if you're President Trump, you don't have it. | ||
| If you work for President Trump, you don't have presidential immunity or executive privilege. | ||
| Isn't somebody called Peter Navarro in prison right now because he said he has executive privilege given to him by his boss, the president? | ||
| Look, it's not just about the tapes with the ghostwriter. | ||
| Remember, this man was in politics for 47 years. | ||
| You know as well as anyone, SCIF's, you know, Secure Compartmented Information Facilities, like the ones we worked in, in the SIT room, in the EEOB, in the Eisenhower Executive Building, those only apply to what? | ||
| If you're at Langley, if you're at a secure facility, an FOB, if you're in the Senate where the relevant committee has access to its SCIF, what is a senator doing With classified documents from when he was a senator. | ||
| I'm trying to think, Steve, which senators have skiffs built for them by the GSA in their homes, in their garages, next to the Corvette. | ||
| And the laws are very interesting. | ||
| If you're not familiar with the laws on national security and the securing of our classified data, Motivation, it's one of the only areas in US code where intent is irrelevant. | ||
| Whether you're Aldrich Ames, and whether you're Hanson, stealing documents to give to our enemies, or whether you're a moron who forgot your briefcase on the metro with classified documents, you have both committed a felony. | ||
| That's the truth about Joe Biden as Senator, as Vice President, and now with his ghostwriter. | ||
| He is guilty of multiple felonies which would have put us, each one of those, would have put us in prison for a long, long time if we had been found to be storing top-secret information in our homes, Steve. | ||
| Dr. Gorka, hang on for one second. | ||
| We'll hold you through the break. | ||
| Dr. Gorka and Natalie's going to join us. | ||
| We're going to try to get connected back up to Manhattan to the courtroom next in the War Room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| Seb, when they mark this up tonight at Oversight, we're going to have a constitutional crisis here in the next week or two, because the White House has dug in, and Seb, I think you'd agree with me, they must have a reason for doing this, exerting executive privilege at the very last second. | ||
| I think you're 100% correct. | ||
| I think there's multiple felonies there. | ||
| When you really drill down into this, and your point was perfect, not about intent, what actually happened, and they've tried to cover this up, and now they're throwing down an executive privilege. | ||
| This is going to cause a constitutional crisis, you watch. | ||
| This one's going to be big. | ||
| Before you move on, just look at the fact pattern, right? | ||
| We know he's senile. | ||
| We know he's had two brain aneurysms. | ||
| He's had surgery. | ||
| This isn't about somebody who just forgot. | ||
| I mean, you worked. | ||
| You had a clearance in the Navy. | ||
| I still have TSSCI. | ||
| We have the highest clearances in the White House. | ||
| You can't take these documents home by accident, okay? | ||
| And the question is, why did he take them home? | ||
| And if you add that fact pattern to the 21 front companies, to the $1.4 billion deal with Communist China, to the deals with Kazakhstan, with Romania, with Burisma, Well, why would you take those documents home if it wasn't an accident, Steve? | ||
| It's a very good question, isn't it? | ||
| If your son is making these deals with enemies to our nation and nations that are non-functioning autocracies. | ||
| And I'm sure we're going to find this out. | ||
| That's where we're going to head toward a constitutional crisis. | ||
| You made a comment, before you bounce, about we have David Zier up there every day. | ||
| We have Andrew Giuliani. | ||
| We're in the courtroom. | ||
| We're in the overflow room. | ||
| We're doing wall-to-wall coverage. | ||
| And look, we understand that there's no charges, but we feel we need to cover it. | ||
| And we're really glad that congressmen and senators are going up now and attorney generals to back President Trump. | ||
| But what is your thoughts about conservative media and the coverage they've given President Trump in this? | ||
| Well, look, on my Newsmax show, I had John Glasgow on the show, who'd just been in the courtroom, and I could pepper him with questions. | ||
| So, you know, somebody's doing something, but why is it me on Newsmax with John, and you on The War Room? | ||
| Where is everybody else? | ||
| I mean, the coverage on Breitbart is great, but hang on, this is the most important court case in American history. | ||
| I'm sorry, the most important court case, because they're forcing him Forget about who it is, you know, Stormy, paid to have sex on camera, Michael Cohen, convicted perjurer. | ||
| They forced him to do what? | ||
| Not campaign. | ||
| President Trump can't campaign because of this. | ||
| This is stealing an election before the first ballot is even put in a ballot box. | ||
| It is the most important, if you look at what happened in New Jersey, if you look at what happened with the Siena New York Times poll, they're trying to steal it before it is ever even Well, it's information warfare. | ||
| MSNBC's wall-to-wall, but it's information warfare. | ||
| You're getting a totally different take on things with MSNBC. | ||
| us like Clark just did for us. Where is, Steve, why is it missing? What's the answer to that | ||
| question? I'm curious what you say. Well, it's information warfare. MSNBC's wall to | ||
| wall, but it's information warfare. You're getting a totally different take on things | ||
| with MSNBC. Seb, where do people go to get all your content, the shows, the podcast, | ||
| the writing, all of it? Check out just Seb Gawker, Sebastian Gawker on Rumble on your | ||
| podcast platform. | ||
| Check out Katie's new podcast, the Happy Women podcast, and her book Next Gen Marxism by Katie Gawker and Mike Gonzalez. | ||
| You can find me everywhere except the fascists of YouTube. | ||
| So look up Seb Gawker, Katie Gawker, and you'll find me. | ||
| Seb, I think a lot of people are going to have you on as this thing heats up next week on this criminal contempt charge against Garland and the exertion of executive privilege. | ||
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Lisa Monaco, Lisa Monaco, Lisa Monaco. | |
| Your girl. | ||
| Your girl. | ||
| Thank you very much, sir. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| Jeff Clark, you know about Lisa Monaco. | ||
| Talk to me about the importance here. | ||
| Are we heading towards a constitutional crisis because of the exertion of executive privilege in this case to try to protect Biden? | ||
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Yeah, well, they're going to try to set this up as a bilateral fight between Congress on the one side, | |
| executive branch on the other. Right? Because it's remarkable about when they needed to shield Biden. | ||
| Now they have a unitary executive, right? They're just going to close ranks and pretend they can | ||
| take them off. Where's Robert Herb? If Robert Herb were, you know, really independent of | ||
| Joe Biden and Merrick Garland, then what he would do is he would go to court and he would | ||
| argue that executive privilege doesn't apply. | ||
| If he does an interview, if he's a separate actor, then that breaches executive privilege. | ||
| The only way it can preserve executive privilege, though, so they're caught in contradictions | ||
| one way or another, is if he's part of and supported by the president, which is what | ||
| they've always denied. | ||
| They've always said you guys are independent. | ||
| Hey, Jeff, Jeff, we can barely hear you. | ||
| I'm going to try to get it reset up. | ||
| Let us bounce. | ||
| You guys stay right there. | ||
| We're going to try to get a windscreen or something on that mic because we can barely hear you and I know the audience can't. | ||
| Just hang on for a second. | ||
| Let's try to get a windscreen on this. | ||
| Because you get too much good content. | ||
| We're heading towards a constitutional crisis, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Exertion of executive privilege to try to cover up for Biden on the classified documents case. | ||
| The House Judiciary voted criminal contempt. | ||
| You're going to get charged against Merrick Garland for not turning it over tonight. | ||
| I think you're going to get oversight. | ||
| A lot of those congressmen you saw in the supercut are heading back to D.C. | ||
| to do it right now. | ||
| Natalie Winters, I think a couple more wins for us today. | ||
| They released the transcript of Collins' testimony. | ||
| I know you're not thrilled with it. | ||
| I'm not thrilled with it, but walk us through it. | ||
| Definitely some bombshells in there when it comes to the origins of COVID. | ||
| To me, the biggest buried lead was the fact that Francis Collins admits there was never any scientific proof or evidence that he could point to that actually showed there was any efficacy to social distancing measures. | ||
| This, of course, is a very interesting revelation because Francis Collins really spearheaded that charge in his former role as the director of NIH. | ||
| He literally wrote a blog post for his own personal website. | ||
| describing social distancing is a must. | ||
| He mocked churches for not following social distance protocols in the Washington Post. | ||
| He was in the Atlantic saying that we need, quote, draconian social distancing measures. | ||
| So again, another reason why we should never trust the experts, why they always have ulterior motives. | ||
| But Steve, you sort of bring up the more important point. | ||
| I think the logical follow-up, the thread that they should have pulled, is that if they were lying about social distancing, it's a pretty logical conclusion to say that they were at least okay with, if not actively lying about mask mandates, and to the most important thing, the COVID vaccines, but nothing in the transcript, at least from what I saw, really kind of touched around that issue. | ||
| And I think that just gets to what I would say the sort of original sin of this COVID committee is, | ||
| which is that I think it really was set up not to necessarily get to the bottom | ||
| of the way the United States, this federal government, really played an intimate role in the creation of COVID-19 | ||
| and of course weaponized it when it comes to the vaccines, but they sort of used it as a way to deflect blame, | ||
| placing it squarely on EcoHealth Alliance or the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| But there's much bigger institutional problems that even extend beyond the scope of the National Institutes of Health. | ||
| But for what it's worth, I think the testimony shows it's case closed. | ||
| Do not trust the experts. | ||
| They're lying. | ||
| They don't even have the evidence to back up their ridiculous assertions. | ||
| Here's what I would like to do. | ||
| I'd like to get, if Grace and Mo and you can help put, I want to put this transcript up so everybody can read it. | ||
| I think it's very, over this weekend, not urgent, but it's a good tutorial exercise. | ||
| Because I was very disappointed in the level of questions and the follow-up questions. | ||
| I mean, Collins is such a, remember, Collins is the guy they couldn't touch. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He's run this thing for 40 years. | ||
| They told us in the transition that he's, you know, he's locked in. | ||
| He's the man. | ||
| They've given congressional, every congressional district research money, university money. | ||
| This guy's actually more powerful. | ||
| They told us right up front, we don't care what Peter Thiel's doing on reorganizing government. | ||
| We don't care what his chief of staff, Blake Masters, has to say. | ||
| We don't care what Trump, as president-elect, has to say. | ||
| This guy's not getting moved out. | ||
| So Collins, and as you remember, he left pretty quickly. | ||
| I think it shocked people. | ||
| Given that we had that shot, I thought the questioning, and particularly the follow-on questioning, was very weak. | ||
| Your thoughts? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he has a lot of overlap and collaborative efforts with the Chinese Communist Party, particularly on the Human Genome Project and this very controversial Bill Gates-backed term known as BGI Genomics. | ||
| I definitely think they should have gone there. | ||
| But I think it sort of goes to just the issue with Congress, not just that we don't have many fighters, but Of course, Big Pharma isn't going to want to ask the questions, right, about the COVID-19 vaccines. | ||
| And frankly, I think this committee's been dragging their heels when it comes to really getting to the role that the United States apparatus and the intelligence community played, not just in the creation of COVID-19—we, of course, have other breaking news on gain-of-function research—but how sinister the cover-up efforts We're coming from the American landscape, not just from the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| I would almost say that our American elites on this side almost, I think, are probably engaged in a worse cover up than the Chinese Communist Party did. | ||
| And I know that's a harsh allegation. | ||
| But when you look at the levels to which they went, whether it was the social media censorship, I mean, there's literally clips of Francis Collins mocking people who said social distancing didn't work. | ||
| It's spreading misinformation, saying we need to shut them down. | ||
| So the willingness, the intentionality behind the lies, right, whether it was social distancing, masks, vaccines, it's not a result of incompetence, right? | ||
| And that's sort of the perennial question when it comes to the Biden regime. | ||
| It's not incompetence. | ||
| It's intentional. | ||
| And then you really start to get into, well, what are their intentions? | ||
| And when you see all these lies starting to unfold, I think you're led really all roads lead to the fact that they did intentionally want to release a pandemic. | ||
| They did want to affect the outcome of the 2020 election. | ||
| I don't really think you can come to a different conclusion that public health is not about public health. | ||
| It's squarely about politics. | ||
| It's squarely about power. | ||
| And that's why, of course, they accused President Trump of, you know, politicizing the science. | ||
| And they put people like Fauci and Francis Collins up on these pedestals, right, as these legends, but once | ||
| they get an ounce of fire underneath their feet or people start digging into their pasts, what | ||
| do they do? | ||
| They resign because they've never had to face accountability. | ||
| You have the Atlantic saying we want pandemic amnesty. | ||
| So that's why you saw the resignation. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| And I take it because I knew very little about public health. | ||
| If you think the Defense Department controls, you know, the appropriations and what they call the kernels, and that's one of the reasons it's hard to get budget cuts, the biopharmaceutical industry may be 5x to that about their grip on the U.S. | ||
| government. | ||
| I mean, this is real. | ||
| This really is elite merger, is it not, ma'am? | ||
| Of course, if you look at the expenditures that Big Pharma has put out when it comes to lobbying Capitol Hill, I would say they rival the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| But you have to link it too, I think, to the broader effort here, which is that it's not even about public health, right? | ||
| It's just about weaponizing certain viruses, certain strains, to create this sort of fear-mongering narrative. | ||
| And you even see it in the news Today the CDC is saying there's new deadly strains of monkeypox that are coming back. | ||
| They're saying there's a new flirt variant of COVID that's circulating in the wastewater. | ||
| You have two days ago one of the lead stories in the Guardian, some random health expert in the UK, they have her blasting on the front page saying that Superbug resistance is going to make the COVID pandemic look like child's play, right? | ||
| This is all part of a converging effort, which I think dovetails, I would say, quite nicely with the WHO wanting to institute this pandemic treaty. | ||
| But Steve, the biggest tell with all of these people, right, is that any normal person who wasn't operating under, whether it was big pharma influence, Chinese Communist Party influence, globalist influence, Would say no more research with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| International collaboration doesn't work. | ||
| COVID proved that they don't tell us the truth and that there's civil-military fusion over there that renders any scientific collaboration with them a hardcore national security threat. | ||
| But none of these people have ever come out and said that. | ||
| They're still paying lip service to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Their response to COVID-19 is that we need more international collaboration. | ||
| It's an absolutely asinine take But like I said, it's not a result of incompetence. | ||
| It's a result of intentionality. | ||
| No, they're actually arguing for you need more cooperation with the CCP's military labs. | ||
| Hang on for one second. | ||
| It's Kafkaesque, right? | ||
| You just can't believe what's going on. | ||
| Hang on for one second. | ||
| We're going to hold you through the break. | ||
| Our own Natalie Warner's got a couple of scalps and driving action on the House. | ||
| Of course, they're trying to pick on her, but Natalie's a pretty tough girl. | ||
| She can fight back. | ||
| Philip Patrick is going to join me on Saturday. | ||
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| Next in the War Room. | ||
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Did NIH fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology through Echo Health? | |
| It depends on your definition of gain-of-function research. | ||
| If you're speaking about the generic term, yes, we did. | ||
| But this is research. | ||
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The generic term is research that goes on in many, many labs around the country. | |
| It is not regulated. | ||
| And the reason it's not regulated is it poses no threat or harm to anybody. | ||
| No threat or harm. | ||
| The weaponization of viruses. | ||
| Natalie, you've been with us a long time. | ||
| You were with Rahim before that. | ||
| I think we've worked on this. | ||
| We started talking about gain of function and Barrick particularly, particularly when NBC did a big special on him, local news down there, I think at the University and Chapel Hill. | ||
| I believe that was in April, usually late March or April of 2020. | ||
| They finally admitted it, ma'am. | ||
| Now, I don't usually go for the ad hominem attacks, but is this guy not just the, like, epitome of a DC swampy bureaucrat type? | ||
| I don't just say that because of the way he looks or speaks, but even what he's saying, right? | ||
| The word salad, shifting the goalposts. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| But it's not amazing for the country, I would say. | ||
| It's also D.C. | ||
| swamp vibes because he is, of course—well, I guess actually not. | ||
| He's actually telling the truth. | ||
| But remember, this proves that Anthony Fauci perjured himself, right? | ||
| There were those infamous kind of exchanges between him and Senator Rand Paul, where Anthony Fauci says repeatedly, we did not fund gain-of-function research. | ||
| You know, I am the science. | ||
| You do not know what you're talking about. | ||
| But this guy was the principal deputy director of the National Institutes of Health from 2021, or rather 2020 to 2023. | ||
| He was a very close advisor of Anthony Fauci. | ||
| Ostensibly, he would know what's going on. | ||
| But this admission really is a smoking gun in that either he's perjuring himself, right, or Anthony Fauci is. | ||
| But it confirms all the reporting that we've known all along. | ||
| Like you said, we've been You know, ahead of the curve, it of course earned us the top misinformation spreading label from the New York Times, still waiting on the retraction for that article. | ||
| Don't think we'll be getting that. | ||
| But we know that the Wuhan Institute of Virology is a close collaborator with the People's Liberation Army, | ||
| that they were souping up genetically engineered mice that mimicked human systems and just internal organs | ||
| that were given to them by Ralph Baric. | ||
| With these strains of coronaviruses, they were being trained by researchers | ||
| from the Galveston National Laboratory in collaboration with Ralph Baric from UNC Chapel Hill. | ||
| But what I think is the worst part is that this guy was part of that sort of evil cohort, | ||
| Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins, all those people who really coordinated | ||
| to suppress the lab leak theory and brand them as absolute deranged lunatics. | ||
| Yet now you see years down the road, they're comfortable coming out saying that, right? | ||
| If we would have said that, we would have been censored for misinformation. | ||
| So I would say. | ||
| You know, while it's important to take the scalp and it proves that Anthony Fauci perjured himself, always in the back of my mind, whenever we're talking about pandemic related things, you have to sort of, I think it begs the question, especially on the heels of the New York Times grand reversal, right? | ||
| With the COVID vaccine injuries and the mainstream media's willingness to address that. | ||
| Why are they doing such a 180? | ||
| Frankly, it's multiple iterations of 180. | ||
| It's like 600 degrees, right? | ||
| On so many topics that used to be such heresy to even get into. | ||
| And I think when you see all this news coming out that, you know, monkeypox is re-emerging, there's new COVID strains, there's new pandemic potentials, the WHO pandemic treaty, they want to pass that. | ||
| It's almost like they're trying to garner trust and public support, right, for the so-called experts before the next crisis, the next looming crisis actually materializes. | ||
| The next one they drop. | ||
| Also, I'm sure it's unrelated to President Trump and MAGA's rise in the poll. | ||
| Natalie, where do people get all your content, social media, all of it? | ||
| Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms. | ||
| You can shop the USA Made Lifestyle Collection at SheSoRight.co. | ||
| Young lady, you've had quite a week this week. | ||
| Couple of scalps. | ||
| I wear glasses one time and look what happens. | ||
| Natalie, thank you so much. | ||
| Everybody go over to her site right now. | ||
| She's so right. | ||
| It's absolutely an entrepreneur and an investigative reporter all at the same time. | ||
| Natalie, thank you so much. | ||
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