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Episode 3610: Whining And Lies From Mike Johnson; Flooding The Polls With Illegal Immigration
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unidentified
Facts here are very important.
Facts are always important in a trial, or at least they're supposed to be.
The President's actions in this matter were previously reviewed and no charges were filed.
Why is that?
Because there's no crime here.
Now, eight years later, suddenly they've resurrected this thing.
They brought it back.
And why is that?
Well, just apply common sense.
Everyone can see.
It's painfully obvious that we're now six months out from an election day.
And that's the reason.
That is the reason why they brought these charges here and across the country.
What we've got here is a partisan Democrat district attorney.
We have a Biden donor judge, and we have an assistant DA who was recently a top official at the Department of Justice, Biden's DOJ, and recently received over $10,000 in payments from the Democratic National Committee.
The star witness here is Michael Cohen.
I just listened to a few moments of his testimony this morning and it is consistent with what he's already done.
This is a man who is clearly on a mission for personal revenge and who is widely known as a witness who has trouble with the truth.
He is someone who has a history of perjury and is well known for it.
No one should believe a word he says today.
He lied to Congress.
He lied to the IRS.
He lied to federal election officials.
Even Cohen's own lawyer testified to a grand jury that he is not reliable.
So there's nothing that he presents here that should be given any weight at all by a jury and certainly not this judge.
They have placed a ridiculous and unprecedented gag order on President Trump.
They were overriding his constitutional right to defend himself from political smears from his harshest critics at the most important time.
He is soon to be officially the nominee of one of the major parties in our country, running for president.
And they have him tied up here in this ridiculous prosecution that is not about justice.
It's all about politics, and everybody can see that.
President Trump is leading in swing state polling.
The American people see right through these politically motivated attacks.
I've been in 102 cities in over half the states in the last few months.
And I can tell you that no matter where we are around the country, I've been doing large events.
People from all walks of life come to these events.
And they are concerned about this.
They are disgusted about this.
They are fed up.
They've had enough.
Because they see what's happening.
It's impossible for anybody to deny that looks at this objectively.
That the judicial system in our country has been weaponized against President Trump.
The system is using all the tools at its disposal right now to punish one president and provide cover for another.
And meanwhile, among the atrocities here, the judge's own daughter is making millions of dollars doing online fundraising for Democrats.
They're using this trial as a hook.
It's so corrupt.
It's so corrupt, and everybody knows it.
This is a year-long partisan witch hunt.
Years long.
And it's been going on for quite some time.
We're seeing the same thing in the Classified Documents case.
That one is so egregious, the trial's been indefinitely postponed.
I'm working with Chairman Jordan of the House Judiciary Committee, Chairman Comer of our Oversight Committee, on measures to rein in the abuses of Special Counsel Jack Smith.
The latest revelation is that they've manipulated documents.
They might have tampered with the evidence in the case, it seems, and that doesn't surprise any of us.
In Congress, we have oversight responsibility, and it is our objective and our responsibility to hold them accountable.
These are politically motivated trials and they are a disgrace.
It is election interference and they show how desperate the opposition that President Trump has and how desperate they truly are.
The American people are not going to let this stand.
Election Day cannot get here soon enough and we will continue to shine a light on all of this in Congress because we have that constitutional responsibility.
Again, I came here again today on my own to support President Trump because I am one of hundreds of millions of people and one citizen who is deeply concerned about this.
So I'm glad to be here.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Okay, Tuesday, 14 May, year of our Lord, 2024.
Welcome to the War Room.
We had to replay that from this morning because I'm still triggered about it.
That is a manifestation of what the problem in this nation is.
The problem in this nation, you have gutless, feckless, elected Republicans that are controlled opposition.
His job is to shine a light.
No, dude, your job is to do something about it.
Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene joins me.
We're going to have Andrew Giuliani in a minute to talk about the travesty of the Cohen testimony in the beginning of the cross.
But MTG, Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, this made me sick to my stomach this morning, ma'am.
marjorie taylor greene
Oh, I can't believe I just had to listen to it again, Steve.
It's repulsive.
And the fact that he's like, I came up there on my own.
Yeah, who paid for your airplane, Mike Johnson?
And here's the whole thing about it.
He's up there talking and complaining about the weaponized government against President Trump, against our presidential candidate for president.
And Mike Johnson is the Speaker of the House.
He's the only one that has the ultimate control to do something to stop it, and he's absolutely done nothing to stop it.
And he told Playbook last week that, no, he wasn't going to do anything.
And then he called me up on the phone today and said that he's continuing to try to figure out a way to stop Jack Smith.
It's really simple, Steve.
I have a bill.
I have a bill that will completely defund the special counsel.
If only we had a Speaker of the House that had the guts to take it to the floor for a vote.
What he's concerned about is Republicans not voting for it.
You know what I have to say, Steve?
I'd love to see those Republicans vote against it.
I would love to see these Republicans who are actually in their primaries right now, who are actually in their general elections right now, I would love to see them vote against the corrupt, Special prosecutor Jack Smith and the FBI who completely manipulated evidence.
It wasn't a mite, they absolutely did.
I would love to see these Republicans vote against that.
Because getting rid of the special counsel and Jack Smith is absolutely the right thing to do.
That's how you stop the weaponized government.
You don't run up to New York And sit there and hug President Trump as tightly as you can and feign like, oh, all of this outrage over Alvin Bragg.
That's a state case.
This is a federal case.
Jack Smith is federal.
We are federal.
Mike Johnson is Speaker of the House, which is federal.
That's something that we can do something about, the Department of Justice that is weaponized against President Trump.
steve bannon
Wouldn't it be another great unmasking like it was last week when you put the motion to vacate and we saw the 196 Republicans that are part of the unit party that basically turned the House over to the Democrats?
This is one of the more things.
Let's call their bluff.
Let's see who's on our side of the football, on MAGA's side of the football, and on President Trump's side of the football, ma'am.
marjorie taylor greene
That's right, and the American people's side of the football, Steve.
The people are fed up with this.
They're looking at Republicans in Washington and laughing at us.
They think we are a complete joke, and I'll say it over and over again.
You know, there's people that give me a hard time and talk bad about me on television, and they're like, oh, Marjorie Taylor Greene, it's six months away from the November election.
unidentified
Yes!
marjorie taylor greene
It's six months away.
Let's get our butt in gear.
Let's get in shape and show the American people that we are worth voting for, that we are ready to lead this country, that we are ready to pass a Trump agenda in the next Trump White House.
Let's show the American people we're capable of this.
You know what we're doing this week, Steve?
Let me tell you what we're doing this week.
We are here to vote once again on a resolution denouncing Biden's border policies.
We are actually voting on that.
Again, when, guess what, Mike Johnson and the omnibus package that he passed on the floor here, you know, under suspension, not allowing us to have amendments, tying Republican hands behind our back, Guess what?
He fully funded Biden's open border policies, but yet this week we're here again to show the American people that like we're actually doing something and we're going to vote condemning Biden's border policies and how they affect police.
Because it's Police Week.
When in reality, if we actually cared about our police, if we actually cared about Border Patrol, if we actually cared about the American people, if we actually cared about the border, we would have shoved HR2 in that omnibus package and told Chuck Schumer to kiss our ass and that they better vote for it.
That's what a Speaker of the House should have done.
That's how you get things done for the border.
You don't sit there and just pass resolutions that don't mean anything, condemning Biden's border policies again.
It's absurd.
We're up here wasting our time.
Absolute waste of time.
steve bannon
Tomorrow, weaponization has lawyers coming in to talk to, you know, I think talk about Cohen and other people.
Do you expect this to be fully performative?
Or is this the beginning of really judiciary getting focused and actually sending subpoenas and having an organized, what we need is an organized effort in a criminal Conspiracy investigation against DOJ, FBI, the state governments, right?
We need these Fannie Willis, we need Arizona, we need Michigan, all of it.
Do you believe that tomorrow is going to kick off something or is that more just to pat us on the head and tell us they're doing something?
marjorie taylor greene
Well, you're right.
We need all of that, but we need a Speaker of the House that actually wields power and knows how to wield their power to make these subpoenas stick.
You know what else we're doing this week in Oversight Committee?
We're having a markup where we're going to hold Merrick Garland in contempt of Congress.
We don't have power and backup in the Speaker of the House right now, Steve, to back up
our committee hearings that should produce very important information for the American
people.
You know, I want all of this to happen.
I want judiciary to do this.
I want the Weaponization Committee to do this.
I want oversight to do all of these things.
But in order for them to mean anything other than just more C-SPAN five-minute of our questioning
and us making points on our committee hearings, we need a Speaker of the House that knows
how to wield power and knows how to negotiate when he walks in the room so that our subpoenas
actually mean something.
Because right now, they really don't mean anything at all.
And that's a dangerous place for the entire country to be in.
And I'm fed up with it.
I think the American people are fed up with it.
They don't want to see us talk for five minutes on committees.
They're fed up with it.
They don't want to see us on Fox News doing this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, giving the American people more things to be outraged over.
They want us to do something about it.
Do something for a change.
That's what people want because they're living through all the insanity that Washington just churns out on a daily basis and throws it all over the American people and makes them pay for it with their hard-earned tax dollars, Steve.
steve bannon
We understand that Speaker Johnson and leadership only respond to pressure.
They don't respond to what's right.
They only respond to pressure.
What are your colleagues?
What are you hearing about your colleagues?
You guys fly in tonight for fly-in votes.
You'll, I guess, have the conference meeting first thing in the morning.
Where are people's heads on this?
marjorie taylor greene
I have no idea.
I couldn't even tell you.
I haven't seen anyone yet.
I flew in earlier.
I'm here at my office.
But I haven't talked to any of my colleagues yet.
Yes, tomorrow we'll have our conference hearing.
So we'll see.
We'll see where people are.
But certainly, there is so much we can do.
But it only happens with the power of the purse.
That's the reality.
We said that from the beginning, but unfortunately, the Speaker, as soon as he got the gavel, he basically threw it back over to Hakeem Jeffries in a power-sharing agreement, and that was proven last week when I called the motion to vacate to the House floor, when Democrats indeed saved Mike Johnson.
And guess what else happened, Steve?
We didn't lose the majority.
We didn't lose the majority like everybody said.
Oh, we're going to lose the majority if she does that.
We didn't lose the majority.
The Democrats voted for Mike Johnson because he's giving them every single thing that they asked for, Steve.
And we know what's coming next.
More money for Ukraine.
More money for Ukraine.
Nothing for the American people.
Nothing to seal and secure our border.
Nothing to stop Jack Smith.
Nothing to stop the weaponized government, but more money for Ukraine.
That's what we're going to see later on this summer and in September.
And then we're going to see the government funding deadline on September 30th, which is either going to be another big fat omnibus delivering Joe Biden everything he wants, or a CR without a 1% cut.
And that is an absolute shame.
It is an absolute shame and it shouldn't be happening.
steve bannon
Congressman Green, how do people get to you?
How do they follow you on social media?
How do they get to your site and find out more about your fight to get the speaker focused on having President Trump's back?
marjorie taylor greene
Thank you for that, Steve.
Everyone, you can follow me on all social media accounts at RepMTG.
We have to fight for President Trump.
We have to fight for election integrity because we should be concerned about our elections and the Democrats will steal it again.
And we need to make sure that everyone gets out the vote in November 2024.
unidentified
Congressman Greene, thank you.
steve bannon
We will track you closely.
Hopefully get you back on the next couple of days.
marjorie taylor greene
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene.
As Russ Vought said, remember their new thing is about clearing the decks.
I have more to say about that.
What they're trying to do is de-Trumpify President Trump's second term.
This is how the cartel, the DC cartel, thinks.
Andrew Giuliani.
We're also going to try to get Andrew the cross-examination of The one and only rat started today and it was quite fiery.
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Okay, Michael Cohen, the rat.
They finished the direct and they start the cross.
It was kind of explosive.
Our own Andrew Giuliani is outside the courthouse, sir.
unidentified
Steve, good to be with you, man.
We knew that really with the cross-examination, fireworks would start, but they started with the grand finale.
Todd Blanch got right up there, and one of the first questions he asked to Michael Cohen is if recently on his podcast, Michael Cohen called him, and I quote, this is a quote of Michael Cohen, a crying little That's what he asked.
That sounds like something I would say.
Blanche is about to go into more questioning about what Cohen said about Nicholas and Blanche on a recent podcast, but the judge got pissed.
and called up the prosecution, called up the defense, struck it from the record.
But Steve, I have to tell you, I think that alone, along with what was said afterwards,
when Blanche asked if he had recently called Donald Trump dictator, again, this is a quote, dictator douchebag,
where Cohen affirmed that it sounds like something that he would say, I think that might've done
everything it needed to do with the jury.
If somehow, and I don't know if this is possible, but if somehow in the jury,
there was a little bit of sympathy for Michael Cohen, man, just within that 90 seconds right there,
it was all gone immediately.
And the defense was off and running with the cross-examination.
steve bannon
No, why do you say that?
This jury looks like it's never trumped to the nth degree.
Maybe one, maybe two people.
Why are they not loving this?
I mean, they support Michael.
They're the type of people that go to Michael Cohen's side.
They're the type of people that support the sponsors of Michael Cohen.
Why would you say it ended any sympathy?
unidentified
Well, that's what I worry.
If they are actually, you know, that Manhattan jury pool where we're seeing 86% voted for Joe Biden in 2020, I think that number's gone down significantly, and 79% voted for Alvin Bragg, then you wonder if some sympathy has built up there, Steve.
And again, I gotta say, This jury has done a very, very good job keeping their poker face on.
It's tough to really tell where they are.
I'm hopeful there are just a couple unbiased members on there.
If they are, then I think they can't look past just the fact that the prosecution was never able to prove the case.
And remember, the prosecution can still call witnesses at this point.
But they're still relying on Michael Cohen's word on all of this.
There's been no documentation that the prosecution has presented that does not rely on Michael Cohen's word.
Remember that.
And I think that's very, very key when you consider all this.
steve bannon
Andrew, hang on a second.
I just want to back up a second.
They finished the cross of Michael Cohen today.
In your mind, have they been able to ascertain or put in front of the jury exactly what the crime is that they're trying to get Michael Cohen's testimony to kind of basically bury Trump?
unidentified
Not clearly, Steve.
They're trying to try to concoct this falsified bank records, talking about how it was involved in election interference with 2016, and that's why Cohen did it.
There was even a suggestion that Cohen continued it because he was trying to interfere in the 2020 election in 2017.
And early 2018, Cohen certainly you could tell was coached to answer the questions with regards to what the motive was from the prosecution by saying that he wanted to make sure that this stuff did not get out before the 2016 election.
Even saying that he would not have paid this had it been after election day of 2016 right there.
Whether or not the jury bought it or not, I don't know if they did.
I certainly didn't buy it.
I think most people with an unbiased mind would not buy it.
And again, you have to reiterate, anytime that you talk about this, that Michael Cohen is a perjurer of our United States Congress, he's a convicted felon, and somebody that almost every witness that has been called to the stand has said they've caught him in numerous lies.
steve bannon
Um, they, you know, Cohen had a very different house style than he normally has in front of this jury, right?
Trying to be judicious, trying to be calm, not trying to be a wise guy.
Uh, and that, you know, clearly they were trying to play that up in front of the jury.
Todd Blanche went right at him today with stuff he's put up because the stuff he's putting up a TikTok.
Even the prosecution couldn't stop it.
We had President Trump in an orange jumpsuit, I think, behind bars.
Why did the judge, when Todd Blanch goes in there and basically talks about what Cohen actually put up and actually said on his podcast, why would Mershawn appear to fall into the trap of people that say this guy's so biased?
Why would he jump in when he hasn't jumped in before on anything with Cohen?
Why would he jump in to protect Cohen and do it in front of the jury?
unidentified
Well, Steve, let me just answer that by saying, man, the judge's daughter must have been pretty happy when he did that because she has had her company's profits of $90 million from Democratic candidates, including $37 million from Adam Schiff, including over $10 million from Kamala Harris and Joe Biden combined.
So that's, I mean, that has to be potentially one of the reasons when you end up looking at this, why Murshan would continue to intervene, it seems like.
On the Trump case over here.
So when you look at a motive right there in terms of the judge, Steve, it's tough to go beyond that there.
But to your point, what you were saying before about Cohen and what he had said on TikTok, I think Blanch did a great job of laying out what Cohen is actually selling.
Merchandise with coffee cups saying, take him to the big house, not the White House.
Referring to Donald Trump, you mentioned the shirt Cohen just wore on his podcast a few short days ago.
of Donald Trump behind bars on there.
And Cohen has a line called Convict 45.
So you want to see motive?
You want to see Michael Cohen profiting off of Donald Trump going to jail?
What's going to happen to that line of clothing and line of coffee mugs if that doesn't happen?
steve bannon
Do you think Murshad's going to eliminate any of that from coming into?
Because to me, that's totally relevant about intent, motive, all of it, right?
You know, Cohen's sitting there going, I should have been attorney general.
I thought Trump was going to make me chief of staff.
Anybody that was around the time knows that's a total joke.
He was never considered for anything.
The guy's looked at his bad news, incompetent bozo and a bad guy from the get go.
Right?
He had these, you know, he's very grandiose about how he thinks.
Thought he was going to be Chief of Staff.
Thought he was going to be Attorney General.
Right?
So this has this grandiosity that's quite dangerous because he's an incompetent buffoon.
But are they going to allow Todd Blanche and the rest of the defense team to get this in front of the jury?
unidentified
So they were able to get that piece at least in front of the jury without objection or if there even was objection.
I don't believe there was it was not sustained that was in front of the jury on the record.
So yeah, I think Blanche has done a good job already starting to show the motive really showing the motive of Michael Cohen how he's been able to make three and a half million dollars off of his two books and how he is shopping around on a show.
I think that questioning will come on Thursday.
I think Steve, what you're also going to get on Thursday as well is, you're going to get a lot more documented, this is what Michael Cohen said then, this is what he's saying now.
And it's not just from 2015, 2016, when he was publicly supporting Donald Trump.
I think it's from when the prosecution set the timeline in the stand.
Remember, the prosecution did not rebuild Cohen's credibility.
I think they thought that it was just too impossible But what they did do was they tried to show that after Cohen cooperated with the Mueller team, that that is the line in the sand where Cohen started to reform his ways.
I think Blanche is doing a great job of showing how this is not a reform man, just as recently as last week, wishing, hoping, praying that Donald Trump was actually going to go to jail.
I think you're going to see more documented proof of Cohen recently saying something Wow.
Wow.
Okay.
steve bannon
How was the president's... What was the president like when the opening of Cross was over, when he left the courthouse today?
What's... How's President Trump holding up?
unidentified
You know, it was interesting.
After the prosecution finished questioning Cohen, President Trump actually kind of did like a little, it almost looked a little bit like a Jack Nicklaus, two hands, yes sir, over his head.
Some might consider it a stretch, but I hadn't seen him done that so far.
It was kind of an interesting moment there, but he walked out both the afternoon break And then when trial was done for the day, striding confidently, chest up, Steve, you've seen that look there.
He looks good.
He looks focused.
I think he's pretty darn happy with the way the proceedings have gone the last couple days.
steve bannon
Now, no court tomorrow, court on Thursday, no court on Friday.
He goes to Barron's high school graduation, I believe.
Tell me about, what do you expect Thursday?
unidentified
Thursday you're going to have cross-examination all day.
The judge actually asked Blanche if he thought he was going to get done with Cohen's cross-examination Thursday.
Blanche said he thinks so, but he's not sure.
Judge said no rush on that.
So Marchand did question it, but he was not pressuring him, according to Marchand, on that.
But it's going to be all day.
Blanche cross-examining Cohen. And as I said before, I think you're going to see more documented proof of Cohen
actually with his lies what he said before and maybe even potentially
documented proof of perjuring himself. We will see.
steve bannon
Andrew, great call.
By the way, I hope Todd Blanche keeps Michael Cohen up there for three or four days to expose all the lies.
I mean, come on, this guy will crack too.
Andrew, fabulous job.
How do people get you?
Social media, websites, all of it.
unidentified
Yeah, at Andrew H. Giuliani, we're live-Xing, we're live-truthing.
We're not live-Facebooking, Steve, because we're getting shadowbanned on there.
We're getting like 12 hits a time on Facebook, where we're getting tens and hundreds of thousands, even millions, on truth and on X. So, definitely go on X, go on truth, at Andrew H. Giuliani.
We'll be live-tweeting, live-truthing it all out there on Thursday.
steve bannon
Hold it, you're actually getting shadowbanned on Facebook?
unidentified
I mean, Steve, I'm looking at the numbers here, and you look at the Facebook numbers, look at the truth numbers.
They're in the thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions on a few of these.
On Facebook, we're not cracking triple digits over here.
We're getting 25, 30, 35.
It's a joke.
It's an absolute joke.
steve bannon
It's a joke.
unidentified
It's like a Biden rally.
On Facebook, it's a Biden rally.
On X, I'm doing a Trump rally.
That's how different it is.
steve bannon
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unidentified
In a few minutes, we'll begin our meeting of the Justice Department's Election Threats Task Force.
We're meeting today for the same reason I launched this task force three years ago.
We have seen a dangerous increase in violent threats against public servants, the ones who administer our elections.
Those threats endanger our democracy itself.
That is why, over the past three years, we have accelerated our efforts to combat the increasing threats against election workers, officials, and volunteers that followed the 2020 election.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back to the War Room.
Of course, they haven't done anything to get to the bottom of the steel of 2020.
They've just covered that up.
And now, they understand with these numbers, they have two firewalls, lawfare and to steal the election.
Congressman Chip Roy joins us.
There's a huge story up on Daily Mail.
You don't hear this coming out of Lisa Monaco or Merrick Garland or Chris Wray at the FBI.
It's about illegal aliens coming to the country that are being trained up in places like Washington, D.C.
to vote.
Congressman Roy, how real is this?
unidentified
Oh, it's very real.
Thanks for having me on, as always.
I mean, look what we've got here.
On April 10th, 2024, D.C., the District of Columbia held a training event titled, quote, Non-Citizen Voting Education Virtual Training, in which D.C.
announced non-citizen voting would begin in 2024.
They amended their code, all the way back to 1955, to change qualified elector to include otherwise eligible non-citizen residents, including illegal aliens.
And this is joining a chorus, by the way.
They're placed in San Francisco, Oakland, California, some cities in Maryland, Vermont, I think parts of boroughs in New York City.
This is happening across the country, okay?
Now, to be clear, under federal law, yes, technically only citizens can vote.
But here's the problem.
Federal law also prohibits states from being able to check citizenship.
So that has been a barrier.
So that has led to, for example, Arizona, who has two systems. Arizona passed a law saying they want
to require citizenship, so for state elections they do check citizenship. For
federal elections they do not because they're prohibited by federal law to do so. This is why I've
introduced two bills. The first bill last year was a bill that would, you know, take away funding to
D.C.
or make it contingent on not allowing non-citizens to vote at the H.R.
486.
You know, that was, I think, two years ago.
Senator Cruz has it in the Senate.
Then I introduced last week, along with Speaker Mike Johnson, 50 of my colleagues, a growing list, Mike Lee in the Senate introduced it, H.R.
8281, the SAVE Act.
And that bill is designed to make sure that there is a requirement of proof of citizenship
to vote in federal elections in the United States.
So we're not just going to make it possible, we're going to require it.
Because under federal law, we can and we should do that.
steve bannon
Why is the Biden administration, why is Merrick Garland, why are they not all over helping
you guys push this forward as quickly as possible?
unidentified
Well, they're going to hide behind saying things cryptically like this is already against
It's already the law that you only have citizens voting.
But what they're hiding is that states and jurisdictions who want illegals to vote are moving in that direction.
These guys want that to occur.
That is precisely what they've been doing by flooding our country with people who are from all over the world, from all 180 different countries.
That's purposeful.
It's not just, oh, we want labor, and it's nice for asylum.
Both.
This is to flood the zone with people to increase voters.
And they'll say, well, they're already denied that and it's unlawful for them to vote.
Well, they're going to back into that by knowing the system will be abused.
We've got evidence clearly of people voting who are not citizens.
And now we have cities who are trying to make it easier for them to vote.
And they'll say, don't worry, we'll only do that in local elections.
Not true.
We know that's not true.
And the federal government, the current attorney general, the current Department of Justice,
the current president, they want that.
So our job is to stand up against that.
But if somebody has a problem with our bill and they say, well, it's already against the
law, then what are you worried about?
My argument back to them, what are you worried about?
Well, it would be a burden if they get in the way of people.
It would be an undue burden on their right to vote.
What, to show up and demonstrate your citizenship?
To provide a passport?
Or provide your birth certificate with a driver's license?
Or some other mechanism by which you can prove it?
That's insane.
Of course, we should only have citizens vote.
It is an 87% issue, Steve.
Even in this divided country, with crazy people out there who will vote for Joe Biden, 87% of Americans think only citizens should vote.
We should stand up and pass this.
steve bannon
One of the most powerful parts you've got of this is what went on in D.C.
Just take a second and explain to people what Washington, D.C., the nation's capital, was doing to make sure that illegal aliens could actually vote.
unidentified
Sure, so Judicial Watch just put out records of the city of D.C.
explaining literally to illegal aliens and non-citizens how they can vote, right?
They did it.
It was a specific event.
It was on April 10th.
It was about a month ago.
It was a training event.
It was entitled.
It was like a formal thing.
They're not hiding it.
In 2023, the D.C.
Council amended the D.C.
Election Code to expand the definition of the term qualified electorate to include non-citizen residents Including illegal aliens.
As I said, other places have been doing that.
San Francisco, Oakland, you know, other places.
Maryland and Vermont.
This is going to continue unless we do something about it, right?
We saw the evidence that came out in South Carolina last week with the Department of Health and Human Services.
Because they're using, under current law, if you go to go get, you know, welfare, that they put you in registration to vote under motor voter.
Our bill would clean that up.
Let's be very blunt.
Last week, we passed a bill that would require the Census to check a citizenship.
You'd have to check whether you're a citizen on the Census.
And then it would require that only citizens be counted in the apportionment of our members of Congress.
Well, guess what?
It passed on literally a party-line vote.
Not one Democrat.
Not one.
Voted for the proposition that we should count citizenship and that all citizens should be counted in apportionment.
This is where the Democratic Party wants to go.
So just know that and know what they're trying to do.
They want this.
In this election, the election we're in, they want illegals to be able to vote and they certainly want it going forward.
So we're going to have to fight for that.
We're looking ahead of the curve, Steve, instead of trying to play catch-up.
We're looking ahead of the curve.
While we have an 87% issue, we should lock into law.
I don't want to hear any stuff about federalism.
The Constitution is very clear.
We have the power to handle federal elections for Congress and for the presidency.
So we should pass a law saying you must be a citizen and you must prove it if you're going to vote in the elections that determine the future of our country.
steve bannon
Congressman Breyer, I've got one other thing to talk to you about, about Russ Vokey this morning, but I want everybody right now, what do you want this audience to do on this topic, on the SAVE bill?
What should they do today?
unidentified
They should be reaching out directly to your members of Congress, and you should say that they should be co-sponsoring the SAVE Act, demanding that it get to the floor immediately, and that we take it up and pass it, and that we then force this on to Chuck Schumer, and we should campaign on it.
We should make it one of the central issues of the campaign.
My friend Stephen Miller's been working on it.
You mentioned Russ Vought.
A bunch of my friends, like Cleta Mitchell, others that are election law experts, people like Jenny Beth Martin with Tea Party Patriots, A whole bunch of other people who were standing at the microphone with us last week who are great Americans.
Ken Cuccinelli.
I'm going to forget people, but these are people who understand the law.
So call your members of Congress.
I'm going to pass the SAVE Act, and that bill number is HR 8281.
It is appropriate for the Congress to act.
We should act.
You believe that Americans, that we should have citizenship be proved if you're going to vote in elections, in federal elections in the United States.
steve bannon
Yeah, I'd like to see Ruben Gallego, where he's going to vote in the House.
I'd like to see John Tester and Sherrod Brown, where they're going to vote in the Senate.
It's a tough vote for those guys right now.
Chip Roy, we had Russ vote on today about this effort to kind of, quote, clear the decks and to kind of de-Trumpify the second term of President Trump by things that Democrats and others are trying to do in the House right now.
What are your thoughts?
How do we make sure that President Trump can actually have a second term where his policies are absolutely implemented?
unidentified
Yeah, no, Russ is exactly right.
In fact, I met with Russ for about an hour and a half this afternoon about this very topic.
So what's being said around town, the usual suspects, the same people who just gave us this crap vote on Plaza and the stuff on all the big spending bills and the foreign aid packages and all that without securing the border, those same people are going to go around and say, well, Chip, You know, we can't.
We don't have the votes.
We can't pass a continuing resolution into February or March.
And by the way, we need to, quote, clear the decks for President Trump.
Hold on a second.
I don't want to clear the decks for President Trump.
I want to make sure that it is President Trump that is deciding what the next spending bills look like and the policies that will be in place and whether or not we should fund a new, you know, FBI headquarters and all of the DEI policies and all the stuff and the woke and weaponized government being used against him, used against all of our people.
I want us to be able to make that decision with the House and the Senate and President
Trump.
We do not want to have a lame duck bill.
So we should pass a continuing resolution sometime before September that funds the government
into approximately March 1st, mid-February, March 1.
And normally, look, I want regular order.
I'd like to go through appropriations bills, but I want to do that when I've got my team in place.
And right now, that's not going to happen between now and September.
We need to just do a CR into next year.
We need to get President Trump elected.
We need to go around and explain that as imperfect as this House was, we kept the ball on our side of the field.
We kept non-defense spending flat.
The increase in defense spending came out of the hide of the IRS and the COVID expansion.
We were able to make sure the entire debate on border was about border security.
The word amnesty never came up, so it wasn't perfect, but we kept the ball on our side of the field on major important issues.
Now we need a House and a Senate with a President Trump, and we need to light the fire for a January 100 days under President Trump.
So to answer your question, get the hell out of the way.
Kick this bill into next year and give him every option possible to leverage to get things done, whether it's the debt ceiling, the spending bills on the CR.
I don't want to pass a full year omnibus spending bill on a lame duck.
That's crap.
I want to kick it into next year and give President Trump and Russ vote and all the smart brains that would be in that White House the ability to shape it.
steve bannon
So you're saying as much as this audience hates CRs, you're saying this is the way to actually get President Trump and his team to be able to focus and structure the 2025 fiscal year.
You basically bite the bullet, do a CR, kick it into after Inauguration Day so he can get his hands on it and avoid an omnibus.
Otherwise, we're going to get jammed with a big omnibus and take every tool President Trump has to cut spending, correct?
unidentified
Yep, that's exactly right.
Look, if we were way down the path and we had a great, you know, plan for getting it done right now with a regular order and doing bills that aren't CRs, great.
That's not going to happen.
We're going to get jammed with a massive amount of spill, but we'll increase spending.
So instead, do exactly what you just said.
Let's just swallow the bullet for six months CR.
But guess what?
That's not permanent.
That just puts that spending into that year.
Then we can do the work we need to do to decrease non-defense discretionary spending, check what we need to do, make sure defense is not woke, make sure that we're defunding all the woke and weaponized priorities, do our job, and then get busy doing what we need to do to secure the border and all the policies we need to put in place.
But if you take that tool away, then you're limiting President Trump's ability and you're limiting conservatives ability in the next Congress to do something about it.
A lame duck means we get screwed.
If we can kick it in the next year, we can actually shape it.
steve bannon
Chip Roy, thank you very much.
Where do people go for your social media?
Where do you go for your website?
unidentified
Appreciate it.
Yeah, C-H-I-P-R-O-Y-T-X.
That's ChipRoyTX on Twitter.
Or RepChipRoy is my official account on Twitter.
Or you can go to Roy.House.gov to go see our official stuff.
Thanks for what you're doing.
Thanks for all the listeners out there.
Look, we're still fighting.
We're still swinging.
I'm a little pissed about things like the, you know, foreign aid package.
But we've got, you know, a lot of smart people up here moving things in the right direction.
Right now, we've just got to get President Trump elected and then hold Republicans' feet to the fire heading into January.
Go out and vote in primaries, by the way.
They matter.
steve bannon
Congressman Rory, thank you very much for taking time to join us today by phone.
unidentified
Thanks, Steve.
God bless.
steve bannon
Okay, for the audience, I'm gonna... We've been doing a lot of work behind the scenes of this.
I'm gonna have to chew on this tonight, talk to a lot more people.
You can see what's trying to happen.
I know, I can hear you right now.
Okay, I can hear you.
That's why I had Chip right in this afternoon, we had Russell on this morning.
I mean, a sad state of affairs when we got to kick the can down the road with the CR, but you got to see what they're trying to do.
Break this down into three points, three parts.
You got between now and the 5th.
You then have between the 5th and inauguration day where they're going to try to steal it from him and or delegitimize him, the nullification project like they had in 16.
Then after he takes, what they're working on now is to handcuff him.
Whether that's on geopolitics in Ukraine or with Russia, with the Chinese Communist Party, on spending,
on the invasion of the southern border, on all of it.
And we're gonna have to break it down because you're the most informed audience
and you're gonna be at the ramparts fighting on this.
So the next, let's chew on this.
Don't need to jump on it immediately, let's chew on this.
Because there's a lot of games going on in Washington, D.C.
The biggest game that right now that has us very focused is tomorrow they're going to kick off this weaponization
committee.
And they're expecting fireworks and they're saying this is the first of everything.
You saw Johnson up there today say his job is to illuminate.
His job is not to illuminate.
His job is to take action.
This is the single biggest thing in front of us right now.
We need judiciary to announce a criminal conspiracy investigation.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
OK, before your heads blow up, we're going to work through this.
We have never supported a CR for anything.
But we are hearing all this talk from the rhinos and the cartels.
They want to, quote unquote, clear the decks from President Trump.
What they want to do.
This is all about fiscal 2025.
What they want to do is pass a massive spending bill for 2025 in the—they can't do it between September 30th.
We know that.
They want to do it in the lame duck and saddle President Trump with that.
That we cannot allow to happen.
But, as you know, I'm as much of a non-fan of CRs as possible, so we're going to get to the bottom of this.
Don't—nobody get to the ramparts.
Nobody get Bill Blaster.
We're not there yet.
We have to fully understand this, but this is the games and we're going to make sure the boardroom posse will never get played.
Okay?
This is going to be a tough one.
We'll make sure that President Trump and his team of financial and economic types Well, let's say the MAGA economic types, the America First economic types, are on board with this.
We're going to do a lot of due diligence, and you will be a part of it.
And we will ask you your opinion about where you think we stand.
But you already see the games being played right now.
They're trying to de-Trumpify, understand the polling.
Lawfare doesn't appear to be working.
They're nervous about stealing the election.
Their last firewall When we win, is to take the levers of power away from President Trump.
That, we cannot do.
And we'll start to expose it.
A lot of it's already been done, can be unwound, but it's been done by the same people in the DC cartel are now saying, let's clear the decks to make sure President Trump has a lot of runway.
It's all BS.
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Okay, don't need to ban the ramparts in the CR.
I don't know if we're going to buy into that.
We need a budget.
We need to go through a regular order.
We need appropriations process.
We need to hold their feet to the fire.
Most importantly right now, Speaker Johnson, of course, 10 o'clock tomorrow morning they're going to have the weaponization hearing.
That's not going to be good enough.
They need to let the subpoenas fly and they need to have the stones to back it up.
We need to get Merrick Garland.
We need to get Ray.
We need to get Lisa Monaco.
We need to get Colangelo, the Attorney General of Arizona, the Attorney General of Michigan, Fannie Willis.
The courts shouldn't have to step in here.
Okay, we'll leave with modern-day Holy Wars.
Stick around.
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