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May 13, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3606: Biden Administration Attempts To De-Trumpify 2025
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mike lindell
05:11
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steve bannon
19:22
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ben harnwell
04:38
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natalie winters
02:18
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patrick k odonnel
04:53
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rudy giuliani
01:51
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jake tapper
00:08
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
steve bannon
Welcome back.
It is Monday, 13 May in the year of our Lord 2024, a monster weekend for developments and saving our country.
I want to thank Dr. John Eastman for joining us.
And of course, Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
Time's a turbulence.
I want to thank Philip Patrick.
They're so busy during the week as you can imagine over Birchgold, taking, talking to
customers, talking to clients, et cetera, that we, it's tough for us to get Phillip
back on the daily show, but he joins us on weekends.
It was just amazing.
Make sure you go to birchgold.com slash Bannon today, the end of the dollar empire.
I'm very proud of this bunch of stories breaking about how the BRICS nations are doubling down
on a, on D dollarization.
I think it's the cover of this week's economist.
We're going to get into more of this when Ben Harnwell joins us.
The end of the post-war international liberal rules based order.
Why did that happen?
Because the ruling elites, sociopathic elites in the world destroyed working people, particularly
in the United States and Western Europe to build this, to build this apparatus on which
they benefited.
They took most of the value and now the elites of the United States are destroying the dollar
every day.
With this fiscal insanity and this monetary insanity.
So we'll break that all down here momentarily.
But the way you get a hedge, remember a hedge fund is to help get returns with mitigating risk.
It's all about mitigation of risk.
Go talk to Philip Patrick.
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They give you the micro.
Birchgold.com slash Bannon.
Talk to Philip Patrick team.
They make themselves accessible.
It's one of the deals we have with people that That are sponsors of ours.
In fact, the Field of Greens will be on later with the CEO.
I was going to give you access to the best.
Rudy, we had a monster audience yesterday and we do the Noah Benjamin and his wife, they do this prayer service every Sunday and we get a huge audience for that.
Yesterday we had a twofer, we had a huge audience on Getter Rumble on my personal Getter page with you and Dr. Ryan.
Walk people through now at three o'clock, you're going to have your show again.
I mean, we're going to have it.
Grace and Morgan put it up on our getter.
We're going to put it up on our rumble.
We're going to put up on my personal getter, but where do people go?
Where do people go to get it?
You can come to mine at three o'clock also at eight o'clock where he does the three and then he does a podcast at eight.
I want to make sure we support him.
Where do people go?
rudy giuliani
They'll both be on the same group of stations, the ones that you mentioned, Rumble and Getter and the War Room combination of stations.
They'll be on X, formerly Twitter.
They'll be on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.
And then the 8 o'clock one you can see again tomorrow night on Newsmax.
Believe it or not, we have a few more People asking to take it, so I'll let you know about those.
But those are the ones I'm sure of.
It'll basically be the 3 o'clock show I've been doing for five and a half years.
It is the highest rated show in New York in that slot, as is the Sunday show.
And I will do it as I usually do it, except it'll be live-streamed as well as... It's a straight audio show, but it'll be done live-stream.
And then at 8 o'clock tonight, it's always been a live stream.
I've been doing that one since the end of the baseball season last year.
And every one of them is on continuously.
steve bannon
So it's 8 to 9.
8 to 9.
rudy giuliani
3 to 4 in the afternoon.
steve bannon
Eastern Daylight Time.
Rudy, are you going to stop talking about the steal of the 2020 election and what that means for 2020?
I'm just checking before you let you go.
Are you going to stop?
rudy giuliani
I only have one life to give of my country.
That statue is in New York, so that may be the only good thing we may keep, what the Democrats are doing.
Of course I'm not going to stop.
This isn't even a closed question, Steve.
They posed a narrower question on one particular case, and I agreed with them.
But this is broad.
I cannot have conversations about the 2020 election, nor can anybody else on WABC.
So they need to put a warning on their station.
You will hear no information, no matter how relevant, about the 2020 election here.
steve bannon
Mayor Giuliani, we look forward to seeing you at three.
I'll be in the chat room, probably on mine or in the war rooms, one or the other.
rudy giuliani
I don't know.
I can't thank you enough and your wonderful listeners.
God bless them.
steve bannon
God bless you, sir.
You're a patriot and hero.
Thank you.
Rudy Giuliani, greatest mayor ever.
Anybody, any city ever had, particularly New York City.
John Eastman and Rudy, most normal people would just break under that pressure.
But you're seeing those are patriots and When Joe Scarborough wants to start yammering about masculinity, something he knows nothing about, y'all look at John Eastman and y'all look at Rudy Giuliani.
That's masculinity.
That's stepping into the breach and saying, hey, I'm not going to back off this one inch.
Got another guy like that, too.
I got Mike Lindell.
Mike Lindell now joins me.
Mike, Mike, are you going to stop talking about the 2020 election?
All kind of articles over the weekend.
A guy's going to put you in bankruptcy.
They're going to put you in bankruptcy.
You're going bankrupt because of your defense of President Trump and winning the 2020 election.
Now you've seen all the polling coming back.
President Trump's winning.
They're on everybody that, are you going to accept the outcome of 2020 for election?
They just want us to give them a free pass.
That's not going to happen.
We know you're going to try to steal it.
So we ain't given anything on anything until we've seen the receipts and make sure that
these are certifiable, legitimate chain of custody, actual ballots from something called
United States citizens, not the 15 million illegal alien invaders they've put into the
Your thoughts, Mike Lindell?
mike lindell
Yeah, no, we're never going to quit talking.
And you see what's happening at WABC.
It's the same at the likes of Fox and Newsmax and CELA Media and all of them, that they won't talk about the 2020 election.
And we're going to continue to talk about it.
We're going to continue to talk about it.
All of the stuff that's happened, because of the 2020 election, we've been able to work on that and get things secure for the 2024 election.
And there's great things going on.
We're out there flipping Democrats, Steve, right and left, and their eyes are getting open.
And they're not going to be able to do what they did in 2020, and if we can't have a conversation about it, it's disgusting what's happened to Rudy and what they're doing over there.
It's just more censorship, and we're not going to stop talking.
steve bannon
Mike, you understand with 100,000 people on a windy and chilly day in New Jersey—by the way, is that your lawyer, Mike, calling you to tell you to shut up?
mike lindell
It probably is and it's on airplane mode.
steve bannon
Mike, you know, as you know, as far as there is, as far as this polling goes in the cross tabs, Trump right now, it looks like you win by a landslide.
That means the law fair is not working.
The whole Cohen thing's collapsed in front of them.
All the, all the federal cases are collapsing in front of them in front of their eyes.
Every firewall they had to stop Megan, stop Trump is crumbling before our eyes.
They got to steal it in 2024.
Does that have to be more on point than we've ever been on this very topic, sir?
mike lindell
Absolutely.
We only get one shot at this.
And by the way, Steve, Donald Trump is even polling ahead of Biden in my home state of Minnesota now.
The more they attack, the more they do this lawfare, it's waking people up all over the place.
Democrats are pouring into this bucket of dust, Donald Trump, mega bucket.
But we have to have a plan.
Not only to just override all the algorithms and override all the steel, but also to be watching.
And we are going to be monitoring everything from early voting to machines to ballot boxes and everything.
It's all going to be—we're prepared this time, and the whole country is going to be watching.
And one of the things to really watch, everybody, are those polls.
Polls, when polls are done, if they're true polls, you've got your Rasmussen polls out there, these polls that are out there, and if something goes so far away from that, and these deviations, it should wake everybody up this time around, because you don't have like Wisconsin last time, that Donald Trump's a 17 point, they put out this fake poll, 17 point underdog, and he loses by 1%.
People are going to be on point and watching this and everybody's got to get involved.
And what we're doing, we have over 300,000 people on the ground in every county in the United States right now, working from the ground up.
And we get one shot at this, Steve.
One shot is what we get everybody to save our country.
And so it's not, you just can't ignore 2020 and let's not talk about the problems we had
then.
Steve, I've said it before in 2012 when my pillow got so big, we took in a hundred million
dollars after my first infomercial and I woke up six months later and I was in, so I was
6 million in debt and I go, what went wrong?
What went wrong?
Well, there was all this betrayal and all this, uh, things, mistakes that were being made.
And I brought it all in house and I learned from it.
And 84 million, my pillows later, if 2012 hadn't happened, I wouldn't be here now with this amazing company and employee owned company, my pillow.
And that's the same way with the 2020 election.
If we would have just ignored it and nobody dug into it and said, Oh, well, you know, we'll get them next time.
We'll campaign harder.
But no, that's been revealed the last three and a half years, more things, the onions getting opened up.
People are, you find out all this uniparty that's out there, the CCP, all these things that were these attacks, the deep state and all this.
And we've learned so much, and we are gonna be prepared right up to the day of the election.
All the way up to that, we're gonna be monitoring every single piece, every single county, and every single place.
steve bannon
Mike, can you talk to us about deals before your lawyers tell you to, you pick up that phone and your lawyers tell you to shut up?
unidentified
Can you talk to us about some deals?
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steve bannon
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Patrick, The Wall Street Journal, I think it's a five-star rave.
Tell us about the review that you got in The Wall Street Journal for The Unvanquished.
patrick k odonnel
This is a review for the ages, Steve.
Probably the best review I've ever had.
It's extraordinary on The Unvanquished itself.
And they just raved about the book.
I was blown away by it.
And this has propelled it to be a number one bestseller on Amazon and Barnes & Noble.
It's at the front of the store at Barnes & Noble.
And I just had so much feedback from people.
And my first signing, Steve, was at Appomattox.
And we had many, many members of the War Room Posse there.
And it was just really, it was probably one of the most special signings that I've ever had.
I really felt It was a deeply moving experience to be able to walk the battlefield right before the signing, where the Jesse Scouts and Lincoln Special Forces played a crucial role in the actual Union victory, and then to meet the people that have followed me for years on the war room.
I want to thank you for what you've done, Steve.
You've brought so many of us together, and what you've done here is really extraordinary.
steve bannon
I tell you what, Patrick, hang on for one second.
You've been with us for over a decade now over Breitbart Radio and now at the War Room talking about your great books.
It is building a community and we're going to talk about The War and Posse showing up at Appomattox.
A short commercial break.
unidentified
Back in a moment.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
Check with Grace and with Mo.
Guys, if you check with grace and mode, the audience and go over to grace is always in the chat room.
She's up on, we're going to, we got hearts of our current do a little shifting around and make sure we pick up the Rudy.
And we had to do a little movement yesterday.
We'll get this all sorted.
The Rudy things just happened and we want to make sure we have, we're showing total support for him.
I want to get back to Patrick Kodama and home title lock.com.
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We needed the ramparts.
Remember I break this out for like the next year, the run-up to 2000, the run-up to five November.
Then it's what Mark Elias and Jamie Raskin, these guys are going to do from what they're going to do from five November until 20 January.
And then what's going to happen, by the way, my directors over there with my cup of coffee, MD, you can bring it over.
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Patrick K. O'Donnell, one of the things about Warren, we are building community.
This is what the lesson of today is, is that 100,000 people going to a rally on a Saturday afternoon, the polling coming in, and against all odds, with the whole cultural, university, media apparatus against you, and people saying, oh, we're going to debank you.
Remember the signs they had up?
If you see anybody talking about this, come to us right away.
The FBI listening to you, everybody all over you, we're winning.
And why are we winning?
Because people are becoming force-multiplied and pushing information out.
And one of the reasons is community.
I want to go back to Appomattox, and this is why I'm so proud of this audience.
People and I realize we have a lot of authors on here.
One of the reasons we have authors on here is that this show is known as having book readers, and that is getting to be a rarer and rarer thing in American life, and it empowers this audience.
When our enemies look at this audience, they go, well, you know, those guys, they buy a lot of books and they read a lot of books.
They're a very intelligent audience and up-to-date on things, and they have curiosity.
Curiosity.
And they're not going to back down.
They want to find out about history.
They want to find out about economics.
They want to find out about geopolitics, right?
The system is afraid of that.
They don't want you to be smart.
They want you just to be a cog in the wheel.
They don't want you to understand.
They don't want you to kind of be able to put the dots to connect dots.
They want you just to be a proletariat, just your head down, just a drone, just a Russian surf.
You're not going to do that.
Tell me about Appomattox.
Tell me about the book signing.
patrick k odonnel
Oh, Steve, it was extraordinary.
And, you know, there's so many great patriots that I met, you know, doctors, lawyers that were, you know, really into history that were from the posse.
And it was an extraordinary moment for me and an event.
And, you know, the books that I've written, The Unvanquished is no exception.
It's about a small group of people.
that through their personal agency changed the course of history.
In this case, it's the Jesse Scouts, but also on the other.
I tell both sides of the story in this book.
It's the Shadow War in the Civil War.
It's the Jesse Scouts or Lincoln Special Forces, but also John Singleton Mosby, who is an extraordinary figure.
Steve, begins his career as a guerrilla chief with a clubfoot man, one guy, that Jeff Stewart
gives him, goes to a train station, he literally has his pistols on his horse, and he's captured,
but makes lemons out of lemonade.
He's part of a prisoner exchange, and as he's being brought back on a steamboat to Richmond,
he notices there's a tremendous amount of reinforcements that are being geared up for
the next battle.
He rides to General Lee's office, and this lowly lieutenant comes in, all dusty and dehydrated, and then explains to him that these Union reinforcements are there.
And literally, he changes the course of the battle for Cedar Mountain, and that's the beginning of John Singleton Mosby's career.
Jeff Stewart gives him six men later in December 1862, and those six men mushroom into a thousand men that become, he's the greatest guerrilla leader in all of American history.
And special operations forces trace their origins to what Mosby was doing during the Civil War.
And it would be the OSS later in 1941 that they would look back with their historians, some of the greatest historians in American history, would look back at the story that I wrote and the men that I wrote about.
steve bannon
Amazing.
Now you're going to give your next, I think your next talk about the book.
By the way, Jordan, just get the Wall Street Journal.
It's a rave review from one of the most prominent historians in the country and printed in the Wall Street Journal.
Very proud of that.
You're going to give a very special, you're going to give a very special presentation about the book at a library.
Can you tell us about that?
patrick k odonnel
Yeah, this is my first library.
When I was four years old, I picked up a World War I photo album that probably weighed about three or four pounds, and I'm only, you know, 30 pounds at the time.
But this is where I began my career as a historian.
I was obsessed at age four.
With World War One books and the Civil War, World War Two.
And I'm going to be at my hometown library in Bay Village, Ohio, which is in New Cleveland.
And we're going to talk about The Unvanquished at 7pm on May 16th.
And, you know, there's free tickets to the event and it's going to be fun.
We're going to have People from my past, my old wrestling coach from arguably one of the greatest wrestling teams in high school history will be there and many, many others.
And it's going to be fun.
We're going to go back in time.
We're going to talk about the unvanquished.
We're going to talk about how, you know, human beings through their efforts can change and bend and shape history.
And this is an entirely different story of the Civil War that you're not used to.
And everybody is saying that this book is flying off the shelves at Barnes and Noble.
It's at the front of the store on an Amazon.
And it's because it's an untold story of the Civil War, which is almost unheard of, Steve.
steve bannon
And particularly special operations.
Where do people go to find out more about your engagements?
Where they can go meet you in public, hang out with you?
I know some of the people actually took you or possibly went to dinner with you.
Where do they go?
How do they find out where they order the book?
patrick k odonnel
They go to amazon.com or barnesandnoble.com or the front of the store at Barnes & Noble.
I'm on Getter at At Combat Historian or X or Twitter at At Combat Historian and my website is patrickkodonnell.com and all my books are up there and it's those who've read The Indispensables, many many people at The War of Bossy.
I absolutely love that and it's also about personal personal agency and patriots that have to do the impossible
against a government at that time, Great Britain, which was the greatest power in
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the world at the time.
steve bannon
Well this audience has stood up against time.
patrick k odonnel
The origins of liberty and freedom come from that generation.
steve bannon
Right there.
Hopefully, we're going to replicate it here.
I think we are because of the grit and tenacity of this audience.
Patrick, so proud of the success.
You've worked on this one for years.
We launched it here in War Room.
We love you.
I want to get as many people there on the 16th as possible.
Thank you so much.
Patrick O'Donnell, Finance.
patrick k odonnel
Thank you so much.
steve bannon
I'm market check.
He's number one everywhere.
Rave in the Wall Street Journal.
Folks, you've been there from the beginning.
Particularly the folks even that follow us over from Breitbart Radio,
been the last, what, 10, 12 years.
We do the Memorial Day special with Patrick.
We do a 4th of July special with Patrick.
Of course, we do my favorite, the combat history of Christmas every year with
Patrick O'Donnell.
Ben Harnwell from Rome.
Ben, I gotta assume that Johnson didn't do total due diligence because we're seeing that they're working on a 10-year plan to de-Trumpify.
Remember, folks, when I talk about January 20th, 2025 going forward for the first 100 days, it'll wrap up around this time next year.
They're de-Trumpifying everything, particularly the Ukraine war.
They're trying to pass a 10-year bill.
But one of the top ministers dropped a bomb over the weekend.
I don't think even the biggest proponents in the Biden regime, A, wanted to hear, or B, gave any inkling to Polly Pockets Johnson that this was the total price tag.
Sir, what happened?
ben harnwell
Good morning, Steve.
Well, there's lots going on on the Ukrainian frontier.
For example, Russia has substituted its defence minister.
Italy's defence minister has called for a truce.
But let's go here to a Ukrainian minister, the justice minister.
That's who you're referring to.
A guy called Denis Mariuska.
And he's released an interview in which he says, referring specifically to the European plan to seize assets worth between Two and a half billion and three billion dollars.
He breezily dismisses the European continent's efforts to walk all over its own law, to trample all over due process to help Ukraine.
He says basically three billion is actually nothing.
And get this, Steve, we need hundreds of billions in order to win this war.
Now, the article, I don't know if David was able to put this up, but the article says 3 billion assets in package, almost nothing, Ukrainian minister says.
The actual detail there, which I think that should be on the front page of every newspaper right around the world, that's buried down in the article.
But it says hundreds of billions is what they're talking about.
And I'm not surprised that they're trying to bury this, because this would fundamentally transform, certainly here in Europe, certainly a month away from the European elections, this would absolutely transform the debate here.
And those people who are still supporting Ukraine would quickly evaporate away from doing so.
of supporting this enterprise to the end was known across Europe by taxpayers.
steve bannon
But, but, but, but he's, so we're going to come back, we're going to keep you through break and
come back. You got a new offensive, you got two new offensives from different angles and it looks
like part of the movement, their focus on Kharkiv to take the second biggest city, which is relatively
up near the Russian border in Ukraine. But there's a, the spring offensive is not coming from the
Ukrainians.
Number one is because they don't have the 500,000 fresh troops coming from the young people.
Why?
Because their parents are not letting them go.
So they're being rolled up right now.
You're right.
They're replacing ministers in Russia.
There's a lot of talk in in Europe already among senior people.
They want to get to a peace table.
But this guy, when we come back, this guy was actually Quite honest, when you listen to or read what he had to say, it makes sense that it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars.
This is what, it's not the cost, it's about the lies about the cost.
Remember, you weren't told there's any more than 60 billion dollars.
We fought it tooth and nail, saying they had not laid out a plan.
Short commercial break, Nicole O'Grady, Modern Day Holy War, and man is it!
Short break, back in a moment.
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Monday, Monday morning, you are Soundcheck.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Okay, so this guy's actually being honest, Ben Harnwell.
He's telling you, and this is what, remember, folks, this is what they talk about behind closed doors.
It's hundreds of billions of dollars, and look at the stupid Americans that have given us $60 billion so we can grift off our 20%, or in some cases, 50%.
So he's actually being accurate about this.
Is he not, Ben Harnwell?
ben harnwell
He's Steve.
He's been perfectly accurate.
And I would suggest the strategy of the Ukrainians looking at this, this, this.
I don't know if it was a graph or a slip up, as the truth often is when it escapes rarely in these occasions.
But I would say that the Ukrainian strategy would basically be to get the situation where
America has invested so much money in that it has like the sort of the fallacy of sunk
costs.
Right.
They say when you've thrown some so much money at something, you feel guilty that you can't
pull back because that will basically delegitimize the amount of investment you've already put
in.
So I think probably Ukraine is trying to get America in, bind it in, get the 61 billion,
get more coming across.
So it gets to the point like where is in Vietnam where it can't pull out because it's been
so invested and so dragged in.
But you know, when they're talking about hundreds of billions, you have to ask yourself, why was nobody else in the United States Congress or in the Senate being honest with the American people?
Well, we know the answer to that, Steve.
It's because you had the military industrial complex for one reason.
But also, as I say again and again and again, they are desperate to give Biden this victory before November.
steve bannon
But this is remember Ben Harlow's first guy came with theory said, hey, you're bailing out Biden, which would be a catastrophic foreign policy failure.
I think most people know, but catastrophic.
We're going to make sure we weaponize this information for the European parliamentary election, because this is going to infuriate people in Europe.
when they understand what's really going on and what's going to be required in the changes in their lives to pump
hundreds of billions of dollars into Ukraine.
I'm going to announce Ben is going to join us on the six o'clock hour. We can't get everything we want to get in with Ben
today because Andrew Giuliani is going to join us in a minute, hopefully live from the courthouse with an update.
Ben, I do want to start though, and we'll talk more about this offensive in Kharkiv.
Remember, you're not hearing any talk about a Ukrainian spring offensive, like we went through the whole thing last year when it didn't really materialize.
Now you're hearing the Russians are on the move.
But I've got to go, and how this ties in to really the cover of this huge story in The Economist, which they finally admit that you're seeing the end of the post-war international rules-based order, which the deplorables underwrote with their blood and treasure.
Right?
The blood of their sons and daughters and the treasure of their taxes and their retirement accounts.
The Economist is admitting now that we're towards, and at the same time the elites are destroying Bretton Woods and the U.S.
dollar, they're now admitting as much as they've tried to demonize us, as much as they're trying to demonize the populist nationalist right, it's coming to an end, sir?
ben harnwell
Look, Steve, this is absolutely right.
And this is, I think, more than simple pearl-crutching on behalf of the intellectual faction behind globalism.
They've highlighted here a number of factors, metrics, is how they're saying that this rules-based
international order is coming to an end.
They talk about the fact that sanctions are now four times more prevalent than they were
in the 1990s.
They talk about the loss of confidence in international institutions like the WTO, the
IMF, the UN Security Council, the International Court of Justice, the International Criminal
Court, and so on and so forth.
But Steve, the real takeaway here, as far as I'm concerned, is a line, a throwaway line where it says that in terms of the international courts, that these are increasingly being weaponized by warring parties.
Now, if you look at and think, well, hang on, that's what's going on in America right now.
It's a weaponized judicial process.
The total loss of judicial impartiality.
There's no connection drawn there, you see, Steve, between the identification of why the globalist agenda has lost support in the people.
But what they do say, talking about Donald Trump.
Is to say the return of Donald Trump to the White House with his zero-sum worldview would continue the erosion of institutions and norms, as if he himself hasn't been the most important political victim of the erosion of judicial norms.
So it's a big mess.
You know, they have certain intuitions that are true, but then they refuse to carry it through to the correct audience.
Conclusion.
But it's really just an exercise, Steve, in not seeing the point in this arsenal.
That's what I would say it is.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to spend some more time with you.
We've got more breaking news on Ukraine.
Ben's going to join us in the 6 o'clock hour.
Ben, thank you so much for jumping on here this morning.
We're going to deconstruct E.J.
and Tony, Dave Brad, Ben Harner, myself.
This is a very important piece in The Economist.
Remember, The Economist and The Financial Times are kind of the tip sheets, the deep thoughts of the global elite, and particularly the party of Davos.
So we'll spend more time with that.
Ben Harner, well, thank you so much, brother.
Appreciate it.
Ben is doing an extraordinary job.
This admittance that the post-war international rules-based order that has exploited American workers and exploited the American people is coming to an end is, how can I say this, kind of a big victory.
Okay, we have Andrew Giuliani.
We had his dad earlier.
Now we got a guy that's become a rock star in his coverage of this trial, Andrew Extraordinary.
Today's the big day.
You got Michael Cohen.
Give us your assessment, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, well, actually, Michael Cohen was the first witness called by the prosecution.
Alvin Bragg was in the courthouse today.
Steve, I think kind of the biggest takeaway so far is the prosecution has done nothing to rebuild Michael Cohen's credibility.
You've had prosecution's witnesses go out there time and again.
Anybody who has interacted with them has said that they had caught Cohen lying.
Hope Hicks had said that if Michael Cohen considered himself a fixer, it was only because he had to fix what was broken in the first place.
And so far there's been nothing the prosecution has done to rebuild that credibility.
What you had as we left for our first break here today as I come and join you is a voice memo
that Michael Cohen took of Donald Trump in 2016 that he did not let Mr. Trump know about.
He put it in his jacket pocket, as you said, he put the voice memo on
and he recorded Mr. Trump without his knowledge.
It was regarding a story with the former Playboy Bunny, Karen McDougal and an alleged repayment of $150,000
my David Becker specifically.
Some of the tape is inaudible, and you have to go and check the transcript to hear exactly what was said.
But when questioning continues, the prosecution will go deeper into that tape of the voice memos.
But again, Steve, as I've said before, The prosecution is going to somehow have to try to rebuild the credibility of a serial liar, of a perjurer to Congress, and convicted felon, Michael Cohen, and to no avail so far this morning.
steve bannon
Yeah, I want to go back.
Hope Hicks said that, hey, he thinks he's a fixer, but what he fixes or tries to fix are problems that he creates.
That this guy's not a problem solver.
He's just a one-man center of chaos.
Is that correct?
unidentified
Yeah, that's correct, Steve.
And I think some of Mr. Cohen's gripe probably started a day or two after the election, when you were named the senior advisor to President Donald Trump, the senior strategist, because Mr. Cohen thought that he had the capacity to be able to do that.
Anybody who had worked around Mr. Cohen, had been around Mr. Cohen, had spent any time at all with Mr. Cohen, knew that you didn't want him In the EEOB, you wouldn't want him in the McDonald's across the street from the White House.
Forget about the White House.
So I think that's where some of the gripe started with Mr. Cohen.
But I think it's a perfect quote by Hope Hicks in terms of Cohen considered himself to be a fixer.
And everybody around him knew that he would just really be somebody who broke it.
And he might have to fix some of the things that he broke in the first place.
But that's Michael Cohen for you.
steve bannon
I want to go back to what you first said about the prosecution's team did not take time to try to rebuild his credibility since it's already been a little trashed in this trial and obviously in the media.
He's already pled guilty, I think, to perjury.
What, or it looks like he perjured himself with the testimony he's given today.
Why do you think they didn't go through the exercise?
Will they let, will they let him in front of the jury and get into some of the details and then try to go back?
And rebuild his reputation after the jury's seen him for a while?
unidentified
Maybe, Steve.
It might just be an impossible impossible task, you know.
I thought maybe in the beginning of this trial that the reason why the prosecution's witnesses were time and time again talking about Cohen being a liar.
Hope Hicks's quote that what you just said right there was maybe because the prosecution wanted to say this is somebody who did lie.
This is somebody who made these mistakes.
And now he's changing his ways.
Now he's reformed.
But you just have to go back to Wednesday, just five short days ago, with Michael Cohen on his podcast with a shirt of Donald Trump behind bars.
So you want motive.
And if you want to see somebody who has not reformed his ways, you can just look at Michael Cohen just a few short days ago.
So they might just deem it an impossible task and might not just be doing the undertaking at all.
steve bannon
Andrew, the keyboards, were the keyboards ripping today?
Were they going loud?
Was the mainstream media all over this?
unidentified
Oh yeah, they were going loud.
Mainstream media was all over it.
President Trump was joined by Senators J.D.
Vance and Tommy Tuberville.
Jason Miller in the back of the room, along with Caroline LeVay, Boris Epstein in there, Natalie Harp.
Eric Trump was in the room as well.
I know I'm missing some, Nicole Malliotakis in there, and others.
It was a full and packed Trump side here of the court, and the keyboards were ripping today.
Absolutely, Steve.
steve bannon
Andrew, you're doing amazing.
Your father was on here, went yard.
Where do people get you?
What's your social media?
How do we follow you, sir?
unidentified
Yeah, go to Ad Andrew H. Giuliani.
I'm running in right now.
We're going to make sure that we give you the transcript of everything that is going on in there, Steve, so that way you can determine.
I do put my opinion in the parentheses, but again, I want to let you know what's being said in there.
I think the American people are smart enough to see through this as long as they get the information.
steve bannon
Great coverage, Andrew.
Get back in there.
unidentified
We'll talk to you this afternoon, the 5 o'clock show.
steve bannon
We're honored.
We give you access to the CEOs of our sponsors, and we're always proud to have the Field of Greens team on here.
Myles Grimard.
Myles, get us up to date with everything that's going on over at Field of Greens.
unidentified
Great to have you, Steve.
Well, first off, with everything that's been happening, actually, yesterday, we always have these meetings.
I just want to start off with this.
And I had like five of the teams say that your customers that come to us, they are the nicest on the phones.
They're nicest on the help desk.
And so that's out the gates.
Thanks to all the customers that you have, the nicest people that they talk to on the phone.
If there is an issue, which is rare, they're always nice.
So I thought I'd start with that.
But today I noticed you have some palm trees back there, so I'm guessing Publix is your local grocery store.
I wanted to start a little bit about how Brickhouse came to be and how Field of Greens came to be.
And that is, a lot of people, the new studies are showing that 74% of Americans, they're smart, they know that they need to go take some supplements to be healthier, right?
And then they'll end up at a Publix where there's a multivitamin that's $10 and there's one that's $30.
And what happens is they look at the labels and they look like they have all the same things in it, so they're going to buy the $10 one.
But the $10 one, according to John Hopkins studies, is basically all placebo.
And being in the industry forever, I kind of learned that myself.
I used to have a big online retailer for nutrition companies, and it happened all the time.
It was all the companies were putting all the money into marketing and not the actual ingredients of the products.
People would come to me.
This is a true story.
There was a pre-workout company And a lot of people have heard of them.
They came to us and said, listen, we spike our samples.
And the reason for that is because if you're getting a sample, you know that we know that you're already taking a supplement.
We want ours to feel like the best, better than what you're taking.
If you buy from a big box store, we water it down.
Uh, because that's probably the first time you're taking a pre-workout anyway, so it's going to feel amazing.
You're going to get the benefits.
The only time you're getting the real product is from my old store or from like a GNC or something.
And it was just such a shady industry.
I mean, it's a $41 billion industry.
Like what you were talking about earlier with Ukraine, when there's $41 billion on the line, a lot of people are going to jump in and they're just going to market the same either white label product or the cheapest product they can just to say it has this.
steve bannon
Miles, hang on for one second.
We'll take a short commercial break.
unidentified
Miles Grimitt, CEO of Field of Greens, next.
steve bannon
Miles Grimitt's the CEO of Field of Greens.
Remember, they're all organic.
They take the tough way to process it.
Miles, so you're saying everybody in the industry doesn't do this?
unidentified
Yeah, they decided to put their money into marketing before the science.
It's an easier way to do it.
steve bannon
Okay, hold on.
I can announce to the audience that Miles and the team have not put all their money into marketing.
unidentified
I can confirm their dollars are not spent on marketing.
steve bannon
It's spent on product.
But continue on, sir.
unidentified
Um, so we, uh, again, back with my old retail company is everyone's selling me on their products.
And I look at the label and it was, it was all the same, you know, crap.
But, uh, so that's kind of what led to Brickhouse and us hiring the best doctors.
And, um, before that retail company, I'd been in tech and I was like, all right, I think I could be smarter with marketing, which, uh, I'll tell you my strategy.
It's actually not that cheap, but if we're nimble with it, uh, We go, we find an audience like yours and someone that believes in us like you.
And then when your audience sees us later, we don't just target everybody online, like these other people with the influences and everything like that.
We want your audience.
We want the people that have already heard the story of Brickhouse.
We don't just spread it out everywhere.
But, and there's a reason that because we need to tell the story of our products.
Otherwise, like I was saying earlier, it's a race to the bottom dollar on price.
And so that just won't work.
So Otherwise, everyone's going to see, oh, a greens and fruits product.
I need fruits and vegetables in my diet.
Everyone knows that.
They're not cooking enough.
They're not getting five servings of fruits and vegetables every day.
So people see this $41 billion industry, and they just put cheap stuff into it, and they say, we're the cheapest product online.
I'd rather come on a show like yours, tell the story of why BrickHouse And Field of Greens is better.
And then it makes everything else easier in the marketing.
So we came out in the reverse way.
Let's let's make the best product.
Tell the story.
And then we believe that the customers will enjoy it and see the actual benefits.
Again the John Hopkins study shows that most people or most products that people take They're getting a placebo effect because it's just watered down cheap stuff.
I talk to these suppliers all the time.
We could sell the cheapest thing out there and just attach ourselves to the latest fad, which is everyone, again, needs fruits and vegetables in their diet.
So let's just give us the cheapest one and have it on their fruits and vegetables product.
Instead, we work with 32 farms and get real fruits and vegetables into the product versus our competitors.
And thanks to you, we're able to tell that story and then we can retarget those customers later and hope that it works.
But telling that story is not easy.
If you go to a grocery store, you just go for the cheapest product.
steve bannon
Well, it does work, and as you know, that's why we're so thankful you said how polite our audience is.
They like to immerse themselves in websites and then talk to the company.
They're selective buyers, but they buy a lot once they're convinced that this is where I want to go and then the feedback.
So where do we send them right now?
Where do they go?
Where do they go to get all the information?
unidentified
Field of Greens, use promo code Bannon for 15% off your first order.
And again, thank you to all your customers.
It's a true story.
Everyone that works at the company, we had our meeting and they said, your audience is the nicest on the phone.
So thank you again.
FieldofGreens.com and hope to hear from more of you.
steve bannon
And we got access to all the, you got access to consultants there, so make sure you go check.
They've already said you're the nicest.
Let's go overwhelm them today.
Miles, thanks so much for coming on.
Love the product.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Love it.
unidentified
I'm glad you do.
steve bannon
Rick House, Fields of Greens.
Great guy.
Okay, I want to introduce, we got a special guest from the National Library Association.
It's Mildred.
What in the hell is going on here?
What's with the glasses?
natalie winters
Well, now that I'm a Claremont Fellow, I've got to class up the look.
steve bannon
Hang on.
You've got the Claremont Fellow not wearing gloves.
We have massive breaking news here about what?
Claremont?
natalie winters
Yes, apparently I have to go down.
I am a 2024 Lincoln fellow for the Claremont Institute.
steve bannon
How did you get, that's a great honor.
Andrew Breitbart had it, Rahim Kassam had it.
How did you get it?
natalie winters
Charlie Kirk, so many brilliant scholars and people whose names you probably don't even know,
but have been so crucial in so much of legislation and policy, really the inner workings
of the conservative movement.
Honestly, shout out to Brian Kennedy.
He helped set it up.
And of course, Ryan Williams, everyone over there made it happen, but they love the word.
steve bannon
So when you're a Lincoln fellow, I mean, how long do you go for?
What do you study?
Are you going to be the same Natalie when you come back?
I mean, it changed Breitbart.
It changed Rahim, right?
natalie winters
I will not be on the Morton's Terrace after, don't worry.
steve bannon
Rahim was before and after.
But it changed Andrew.
What do you do?
And getting selected, then what do you go do?
natalie winters
Yeah, so it's a 10-day kind of intensive seminar out in California.
Don't worry, I will return alive.
But just, I think, 10 hours a day of reading and getting to meet and discuss with all their wonderful scholars.
I know you had John Eastman on the show.
So just people like that.
So I'm beyond thrilled.
steve bannon
Hang on, Charlie Kirk and Andrew Rahim were guys in college that, you know, might have bought the books like the night before the exam.
You've been straight A's your whole life.
You've already read these books.
I mean, is there going to be something else?
Brian Kennedy's got to be something else besides that.
natalie winters
You know, I have to say I'm actually really excited because I think it's going to open us to a whole new avenue of potential guests to have on the show.
And I'm sort of anti-social.
I don't really like to get out and, you know, associate with so many people in the conservative movement because, frankly, I think they're kind of vapid.
I don't think there's a lot of substance behind it, but I know Claremont is such an intellectual organization and people really understand what they're saying there.
steve bannon
We're so proud of you getting this.
Thank you.
It's really extraordinary and it has had a major impact on some of the great people that came out of the movement.
Now, you're breaking a story today.
Can you tell the audience about it?
natalie winters
Besides the breaking news that it's Cameron's birthday, we also broke... See, Cameron is 16, right?
unidentified
We've got permission from his parents.
steve bannon
They don't complain about the bad pay and the terrible work hours.
natalie winters
True, very true.
No, we got a new story up on the warroom.org website about Judge Marshawn's daughter.
You may know her, of course, of infamy for working for the Biden campaign, but she also worked, repped her consulting firm, believe it or not, for the group, the Brennan Center that was behind the effort to get Trump removed from the ballot in Colorado.
Over a dozen active court cases against President Trump, and it wouldn't be a Natalie Winters story without the Chinese Communist Party link.
They also repped the Asia Society, which is part of, of course, Chinese Communist Party's united front and foreign influence network.
But the best part, the buried lead there, is that they used to run a network of Confucius Institutes here in the United States.
Of course, President Trump banned those.
And since they've seen kind of a downtick in support and people coming to their events, they had to hire this firm.
To help get their numbers up.
steve bannon
So, clearly, this is going to be reversed on appeal because of everything you guys have found out about her, right?
I mean, this is so blatant.
natalie winters
It's so blatant.
They don't even hide it on their website.
They're putting up the mock campaign ads.
steve bannon
And now in business with foreign governments, essentially, right?
natalie winters
The Asia Society, they are full of bad, bad, bad hombres.
steve bannon
Bad, bad hombres.
The elite of the elite.
You're going to be back at six.
I've got five.
You're going to be back at six.
Naomi Wolf, Ben Harnwell, Dave Walsh, PacShow.
natalie winters
Yes, maybe Mike Benz.
steve bannon
Maybe Mike Benz.
We do it with glasses or without.
unidentified
We can leave it Vox Populi, Vox Day.
steve bannon
We'll take a vote.
Okay, Charlie Kirk is next, but so big after that.
Then you have Miranda, Conterra, Dowell.
We're back at five.
I got the deck in the count of five.
Natalie's got six.
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