May 13, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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These Sunbelt battleground states, frankly for the Joe Biden campaign, these numbers are an absolute disaster. | |
| The smallest lead is in Arizona for Donald Trump, he's up 6. | ||
| Look at this, 9 in Georgia, 13 in Nevada, my goodness gracious, my god, that is a huge lead. | ||
| No Democrat has lost that state since John Kerry lost it back in 2004. | ||
| How about these Great Lake battleground states? | ||
| This is something that the Joe Biden campaign can work with. | ||
| Look, Pennsylvania, Donald Trump up 3, but that's well within the margin of error. | ||
| I have to admit, none of this is playing out as I thought it would. | ||
| margin of error. And actually, a Joe Biden lead well within the margin of error up a | ||
| point here. This they can work with the Joe Biden campaign. | ||
| This the Donald campaign, Donald Trump campaign absolutely loves. And it looks like a | ||
| lot of the other polling out of Sunbelt. I have to admit, none of this is playing out as | ||
| I thought it would. Trump is now leading in almost all the swing states. But behind | ||
| those numbers lie even more troubling details as someone worried about the prospects of a second | ||
| Trump term. I think it's best to be honest about reality. | ||
| I understand that polls are not always accurate, but in general they have tended to underestimate Donald Trump's support, not overestimate it. | ||
| I doubt that there are many shy Biden voters in the country. | ||
| There's so many people here. | ||
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There's so many people here. | |
| Man! | ||
| Over 100,000 people! | ||
| This is supposed to be... You know, they thought they'd hit 40. | ||
| So they more than doubled it. | ||
| But you can't even see the end. | ||
| I wish we didn't have the press here. | ||
| I wish we moved them the hell back so they'd have... Because they can't see in the back. | ||
| And I will secure our elections. | ||
| We have to secure our elections. | ||
| Our goal will be one-day voting with paper ballots, proof of citizenship, and voter ID. | ||
| Very simple. | ||
| And we have honest elections. | ||
| But until then, Republicans must win. | ||
| We have to win this election coming up. | ||
| We want a landslide. | ||
| And frankly, there's an expression I've been using. | ||
| You've got to make it too big to rig. | ||
| If we win by enough, doesn't matter. | ||
| They can't do it. | ||
| So if you want to save America, register, get an absentee or mail-in ballot, vote early or vote on election day. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| But whatever you do, you must get out and vote. | ||
| If they would accept the results of November's elections, their answers are far from reassuring. | ||
| It all starts with Donald Trump, who has not committed to accepting the results of the 2024 race. | ||
| Senator J.D. | ||
| Vance told CNN's State of the Union yesterday that he'll accept the results if they're, quote, fair and free. | ||
| In February, he told ABC News that if he were vice president in 2020, he would have told states to submit alternate slates of electors and let Congress decide. | ||
| Senator Tim Scott dodged eight times. | ||
| When Meet the Press host Kristen Welcher asked if he'd accept the next election's results, calling it a hypothetical question. | ||
| Congresswoman Elise Stefanik said she'll accept results if constitutional, but also said the 2020 election was not because of COVID-era changes to voting. | ||
| Senator Lindsey Graham told Meet the Press on Sunday that he'll accept the results if there is no massive cheating. | ||
| And Congressman Byron Donalds will accept the results if he thinks they're fair and if states follow their own laws. | ||
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So it is, it's all subjective. | |
| If they like the results... | ||
| They'll accept the results. | ||
| If they don't like the results, they won't accept the results. | ||
| On day one, we're going to rebuild our cities into beacons of hope, safety, and beauty better than they have ever been before. | ||
| We will take over the horrible-run capital of our nation, Washington, D.C., and clean it up, renovate it, rebuild our capital city so that it no longer is a nightmare of murder and crime. | ||
| People are being murdered there on a weekly basis. | ||
| But rather, it will become the most beautiful capital anywhere in the world. | ||
| We're going to fix it, renovate it, and make it free of crime. | ||
| When I'm president, we will not allow our colleges to be taken over by violent radicals. | ||
| And if you come here from another country and try to bring jihadism or anti-Americanism or anti-Semitism to our campuses, we will immediately deport you. | ||
| You'll be out of that school. | ||
| We are going to officially play in the state of New Jersey. | ||
| We're going to win the state of New Jersey. | ||
| The shift here is stark. | ||
| On the question of who voters trust more to deal with the economy, Trump has a 22-point lead over Biden, according to an NBC poll from January. | ||
| This marks a 15-point bump for Trump compared to the same poll in 2020. | ||
| Perhaps this is because inflation is a far more pervasive problem than unemployment, affecting all Americans every day. | ||
| Perhaps it's because people's views on the economy now are largely derived from their broader attitudes towards the candidates. | ||
| But whatever the reasons, it's a stunning reversal in the midst of a relentless stream of good economic news. | ||
| But on the other great cultural issue, immigration, Biden is 35 points behind Trump as to who would handle it better. | ||
| And I do wonder whether abortion will be as large an issue in a presidential race, given that reversing Roe v. Wade threw the issue to state governments and legislatures and not the federal government. | ||
| Perhaps the most worrying new trend for the Democrats is that far from being the more unified party, they are now bitterly divided over the war in Gaza. | ||
| Bernie Sanders has said the eruption of pro-Palestinian protests could be Biden's Vietnam, and even invoked the specter of Lyndon Johnson choosing not to run for re-election in 1968 because of the opposition to that war. | ||
| Meanwhile, Republicans seem to be uniting behind Trump. | ||
| Whatever opposition he faced in the primaries has largely melted away. | ||
| And the trials against him keep him in the spotlight, infuriate his base, who sees him as a martyr, and even may serve to make him the object of some sympathy among people in general who believe that his prosecutors are politically motivated. | ||
| This happens to be true, in my opinion. | ||
| I doubt the New York indictment would have been brought against a defendant whose name was not Donald Trump. | ||
| A majority of Americans are skeptical that Trump will be able to get a fair trial, according to a CNN poll. | ||
| Carried out by... That's right, all being done by him. | ||
| Carried out by radical Democrat district attorney... You know who he is? | ||
| Fat Alvin. | ||
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Right? | |
| Corrupt guy. | ||
| A woman who's done an incredible job in Delaware, GOP chair, Julianne Murray. | ||
| She got rid of the mail-in voting. | ||
| She got rid of all sorts of things. | ||
| And she says we're going to win Delaware. | ||
| That's a nice surprise. | ||
| But trend lines are not working in Biden's favor. | ||
| He needs to do something bold and dramatic to seize the initiative on asylum policy, for example, and reverse these numbers. | ||
| The one that troubles me the most is on the question of who was the more competent. | ||
| Joe Biden led Donald Trump by nine points in 2020, but Trump now leads by 16 points in January 2024. | ||
| That 25 point shift could be a reflection of people's sense that the president's age is affecting his capacity to govern. | ||
| And there's very little that Joe Biden can do now to change that perception. | ||
| The great silent majority is rising like never before, and under our leadership, the forgotten man and woman will be forgotten no longer. | ||
| We are one movement, one people, one family, and one beautiful, glorious nation under God. | ||
| And together, we will make America powerful again. | ||
| We will make America wealthy again. | ||
| We will make America strong again. | ||
| We will make America proud again. | ||
| We will make America safe again. | ||
| And we will make America great again. | ||
| God bless you all. | ||
| Let's win this state. | ||
| We're gonna win it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on this, people. | ||
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| It's Monday, 13 May, in the year of our Lord, 2024, a weekend where many things became clearer. | ||
| I know, not to the, didn't have to, the War Room posse, you've been following this Every day for the last couple of years, but it's becoming clearer and clearer every day of what reality is here in the United States of America. | ||
| 100,000 people at a historic, I think it's the largest crowd, or at least it seems like the largest crowd, at least in modern American politics. | ||
| Maybe FDR got something like that back in the 40s during World War II. | ||
| But this was an absolutely stunning, on kind of a windy and chilly afternoon in New Jersey, A hundred thousand people and President Trump went there. | ||
| He went, it was a barn burner speech. | ||
| Scott Pressler and so many others were sending videos all day and those videos were of a group of voters who were focused on point, knew the urgency of the moment and were young. | ||
| This has rattled the Democratic Party. | ||
| Also, starting yesterday and then continuing this morning, polling numbers come out, and it's just not the top lines that are absolute blowouts for President Trump. | ||
| The crosstabs are even worse. | ||
| The Democratic coalition of Joe Biden, right, in the illegitimate, stolen election of 2020 has shattered. | ||
| Everything they tried to hide behind of when they did the phony mail-in ballots is shattering before them. | ||
| Hispanics, and particularly working class Hispanics, now coming to President Trump's movement in record numbers. | ||
| Axios is reporting that. | ||
| In the crosstabs and in the battleground states, a 12-point lead in a New York Times poll, a 12-point lead in Nevada, driven by working class Hispanics coming to the MAGA movement. | ||
| African-American men coming to the MAGA movement. | ||
| Asian-Americans coming to the MAGA movement. | ||
| People under 30 and under 35 coming to support President Trump. | ||
| Across the board, just in state after state and demographic after demographic. | ||
| People are hearing his call and remembering the peace and prosperity that President Trump gave to us. | ||
| You've seen also the contrast yesterday, Fareed Zakaria. | ||
| And Fareed Zakaria is very upfront. | ||
| He said, hey, this is not how I called it. | ||
| I thought it was going to be very different. | ||
| But people got to start facing reality versus still Morning Joe. | ||
| Morning Joe. | ||
| Morning Joe there with Donnie Deutsch. | ||
| And Morning Mika, what are they whining about? | ||
| They're whining about, oh, these people haven't said what they're going to accept. | ||
| Okay, number one, we're going to win. | ||
| Number two, we're only going to accept what is an absolute fair and free and certifiable election, not the election you stole in 2020. | ||
| And Morning Joe and Morning Mika, why don't you go back? | ||
| Let's break down the 81 million votes. | ||
| Where are they now? | ||
| How does any clown lose this kind of support in just four years? | ||
| It doesn't happen. | ||
| It's never happened, ever happened before in American politics. | ||
| And that's because 81 million people didn't vote for him. | ||
| The centerpiece, and people have to remember this, particularly, there was an article, I think it was in Axios, about the RNC, and, you know, they were asking people at the RNC when they rehired him or hired him. | ||
| They don't, and because the media's going nuts, you have to take a loyalty pledge, you have to take a pledge that says the 2020 election was stolen. | ||
| The RNC doesn't do that. | ||
| They just ask people if they support President Trump. | ||
| That's like people come in now and say, oh, I support President Trump. | ||
| No. | ||
| If you do not understand and have not done the work and gotten the knowledge yourself to understand the 2020 election was stolen, that's the railhead of all of it. | ||
| You cannot understand President Trump. | ||
| You cannot understand the MAGA movement. | ||
| You can't understand how we're driving forward. | ||
| And I meet so many people, oh, Steve, you just got—no. | ||
| This is the reason Trump is up. | ||
| Because now, independents and Democrats sitting there going, yeah, exactly, how did Biden get here? | ||
| How would any person that was a legitimate president of the United States do what he's done to this country? | ||
| The massive spending to enrich his cronies and impoverish the working class and lower middle class? | ||
| An invasion—a conceived, plotted, Designed, executed, and exacerbated invasion on our southern border to drive down wages among the working class? | ||
| Why do you think working class Hispanics are coming to our movement? | ||
| Why do you think African American men are coming to our movement? | ||
| They understand what the con is. | ||
| They understand exactly what Biden's doing. | ||
| And they're saying, no, I'm not going to continue to vote for my own destruction. | ||
| The railhead of all this is the stolen election of 2020. | ||
| The more they whine about it, the more they freak out about it, the more we're going to hammer it. | ||
| Let me repeat this. | ||
| The 2020 election was stolen. | ||
| Joe Biden never got 81 million votes. | ||
| And we're going to rub their nose in it. | ||
| We need now an official investigation. | ||
| We don't get it now, Johnson. | ||
| We're going to get it starting the afternoon of 20 January 2025. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| The greatest mayor in America will join me next. | ||
| They are the guys that went to Ivy League colleges and won't defend their father's honor. | ||
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They won't defend their wife's honor. | |
| They will allow Donald Trump to say the worst, most humiliating things about them constantly. | ||
| How do I say it politely? | ||
| Just don't use the word don't use the word Joe. Don't do it. | ||
| I used it once I got a lot of trouble Yeah, don't do it. Yeah, they | ||
| They just Well, I can't say it they | ||
| they just he undermines them and he humiliates them and And they just come back for more in Trump's warhead | ||
| Then he's ever been more few people think January 6 was there any kind of what | ||
| it was is a assault on the temple of democracy to our Constitution | ||
| I don't know what the f*** you want to say. | ||
| It's going the wrong way. | ||
| It's not working. | ||
| Everything that we're throwing is spaghetti at a wall and none of it is sticking. | ||
| Me included. | ||
| And it's hard when you're starting your 80th year. | ||
| And you know, like anybody else, I have an opinion of myself, and the opinion I've come to is, I don't matter. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| You can prepare, you can be on TV, you can write pieces, you can have a YouTube channel, you can have a podcast, and nothing, nothing, and You know, we gotta like, try to think of something different. | ||
| Because what we're doing is really, really not working. | ||
| Okay, and what we're doing is really, really working. | ||
| Remember, because we dig in on this show, and because this audience digs in, and we say being force multipliers, this is... | ||
| One of the essential parts of the activist nature of this show and the activist nature of the audience, our strategy is winning. | ||
| Remember, we always think about it. | ||
| Keep in mind, we don't have any of the vast billions and hundreds of billions of dollars of the acceptable corporate media, including Fox News, the Murdochs, or WABC. | ||
| We'll get into that in a second with Rudy. | ||
| None of that's on our side, ever. | ||
| What do we have? | ||
| You have a handful of podcasts, you got a channel like Real America's Voice, got a handful of shows, got the John Frederick Radio Network and others. | ||
| But we have you. | ||
| He has no force multipliers because people don't buy it. | ||
| Even the people on their side don't really buy it. | ||
| That's why you don't see this kind of energy that comes out after they hit him every day with propaganda. | ||
| Election was stolen. | ||
| Trump's anti-democrat, anti-democratic forces. | ||
| The CNN poll showed just the other day that among independents, which is a proxy for the American people, Trump is up 11 points of who would be a better guardian of democracy. | ||
| As the book, Isaac Arnsdorf, who's a left-winger of the Washington Post, Finish What We Started, talks about the precinct strategy. | ||
| That is about democracy. | ||
| The editors or the publishing company had to put on how Trump's MAGA army is going to end democracy when the whole book is about what Edmund Burke talked about, the little platoons. | ||
| It's about democracy at the lowest levels, at the school board level, at the precinct level, at the town hall level. | ||
| At the smallest of the community level. | ||
| That's democracy. | ||
| By 11 points, the American people think Trump would be a better guardian than that, with all this anti-democratic nonsense put out, everything about J6. | ||
| We're winning because of you. | ||
| You are the righteous indignation of the American people, and you represent patriots from time immemorial that are not prepared to have their republic stolen, against all odds. | ||
| And Trump, President Trump now, it's not just the leads in these polls, it's not just the leads even in the battleground states. | ||
| The nine points in North Carolina, the 12 points in Nevada. | ||
| They don't even do Florida and Ohio anymore, that's out. | ||
| They're huge MAGA states. | ||
| He's leading everywhere, I think, except for Wisconsin in the Siena College New York Times poll. | ||
| And note to self, the New York Times, the beloved paper of record. | ||
| of our republic are not exactly Trump and MAGA fans. | ||
| They're betting everything now, having failed to stop Trump and most importantly Trump's | ||
| movement. | ||
| Did I mention the 100,000 people at the rally on a Saturday in May? | ||
| They now have one roll of the dice. | ||
| One roll of the dice. | ||
| And that's in this corrupt New York courtroom. | ||
| But even that, people are saying it's totally political. | ||
| They don't even know what the crime is. | ||
| So all of their aspects of lawfare, everything they're doing is collapsing around them. | ||
| So two things. | ||
| Number one, I've never been an advocate. | ||
| They're going to try to change Biden now. | ||
| But the pressure they're getting from all corners All bets are off. | ||
| I'm telling people right now, break what's going to happen this next year, the year of decision for the American people. | ||
| One year. | ||
| One year from today in 2025. | ||
| Break it down to three component pieces. | ||
| One, the run-up to the 2020 election on 5 November, and they're going to come and chop, block, and do everything possible. | ||
| Mark Elias are already doing this in the States. | ||
| They're going to try to do everything to steal this election, and if they have to, trade Biden out, or who knows. | ||
| October surprise, who knows what they're going to try to do to President Trump. | ||
| And that to me is a number one priority, the protection of Donald J. Trump. | ||
| After that, from November 5th, because remember on the evening of November 3rd, 2020, Trump was winning in a massive landslide. | ||
| Between November 5th... | ||
| In the inauguration itself, about 80 days later, Mark Elias, Jamie Raskin, they will do everything to take the victory from Trump like they did in 2020. | ||
| If they can't do that, they will do the nullification project, what they did in 2016, and try to delegitimize him in front of the world and in front of the nation. | ||
| That, oh, this were irregularities. | ||
| He stole it. | ||
| You know, his people were harassing poll workers. | ||
| You watch it. | ||
| So that's part two. | ||
| That's the second phase. | ||
| The third phase is the first hundred days of Trump's second term, which would have ended about sometime last week, I think. | ||
| The first hundred days, where he's got to seal the borders, start the mass deportations, work on getting the tax cuts that are going away back, stop the massive federal spending, work on the economy, work on our capital markets. | ||
| Oh, by the way, in Ukraine, in Israel, in the Red Sea, in the South China Sea, tried to tamp down the beginning of the kinetic part of the Third World War. | ||
| That's what you got the next year. | ||
| The next year, because it ain't going to end on November 5, people, please, please, please remember back to 2016. | ||
| They're going to do everything to steal this election. | ||
| That's why you have to be on the ramparts and you have to be on the ramparts 24-7 if you love this republic. | ||
| Because now they realize everything they've tried since they stole the election and forced Trump back to Mar-a-Lago on the 20th of January 2021 has failed. | ||
| He's leaning across the board and Farid Zakhar just threw in the towel and said, this is not working. | ||
| You got to try something else. | ||
| And this is why their new mantra is they won't accept, look, we ain't going to accept anything until we see, until we check every box and we certify everything. | ||
| We see what you did in 2020 and hey, guess what? | ||
| We're going to have full accountability and full transparency and hold those people accountable that stole the 2020 election. | ||
| If you do not believe the 2020 election was stolen, you're not at the railhead of this movement. | ||
| That is the original sin of what's happened in modern politics. | ||
| They stole it and they bragged about it and they know they stole it. | ||
| And we're not going to sit here like establishment Republicans who are too gutless and don't have the fight to stand up and say no. | ||
| No. | ||
| In this republic, we're going to have free and honest and certifiable elections. | ||
| We're not going to let you steal it. | ||
| Because now you've seen, between the invasion and the Marxist takeover of our universities, and yes, the bubbling anti-Western jihad that's going on right now, the emerging anti-Western jihad. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani, the mayor of New York. | ||
| Rudy, observations and comments on my open, sir? | ||
| I think you're right on, Stephen. | ||
| I think we're at and in the middle of the turning point. | ||
| I mean, the reality is, every time I think they're going to stop and They're going to slow down and realize they've gone too far. | ||
| And that goes back to when they put Peter in prison or, uh, they just keep doubling. | ||
| I don't even, doubling down is the right expression. | ||
| They just keep going in the same direction. | ||
| I don't think they are capable of making a change. | ||
| And I think what's happened is an increasing number of the American people, uh, even those that had doubts about Trump, even those that had anger at Trump, are looking at the other side and saying, oh my goodness, this is, all you have to do is be a halfway person of common sense and you look at that trial in New York and you say, either one, and you say to yourself, they're screwing him. | ||
| They're not treating him the way anybody else would be treated. | ||
| Pick any ruling you want. | ||
| People have common sense. | ||
| So last night I went to this movie Civil War, which don't bother to go, And then afterwards was with a group of people discussing it. | ||
| And three quarters of these people, this is about eight people, three quarters Biden voters last time, I wouldn't call them Trump haters. | ||
| This is a no way vote now. | ||
| This is like, I could never vote for Biden. | ||
| And I'm going to vote for Trump. | ||
| Because he'll reverse this. | ||
| Now, this had a lot to do with Israel, but it also had to do with, how can anybody escape the fact that our country is in crisis right now? | ||
| Most of them said, most of them over 50, 60 years old. | ||
| I've never seen it like this. | ||
| I have never seen this country in this condition, and it's due to one person, Biden. | ||
| And whatever his deficiencies, we lived through four years of Trump. | ||
| And surely nothing terrible happened. | ||
| We would say a lot of great things happen. | ||
| So I think if we can just keep it going, I keep waiting for the next shooter drop, Steve. | ||
| Because I think these guys are smart enough to step back and say, what do we got to do to them now? | ||
| What's the next one? | ||
| I mean, they also understand, they also understand the accountability we're going to put them through. | ||
| Rudy, if you can just hang on. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani's with us. | ||
| Actually, in the courtroom today, when they're rolling out Michael Cohen, that's their big star witness. | ||
| Andrew Giuliani is there. | ||
| He's going to step out, I think, in the 11 o'clock hour and talk to us. | ||
| John Eastman gave a total throwdown on the stolen 2020 election. | ||
| Great speech. | ||
| John Eastman's going to join us. | ||
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| Short break. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| We give you the macro every day. | ||
| In fact, I think it's the cover story of The Economist this week about the collapse of the, wait for it, post-war international rules-based order. | ||
| Which we've been talking about, I don't know, for the last 10 years, but the collapse of it. | ||
| We're going to have Ben Harnwell's going to join me in a little while. | ||
| All week we're going to be deconstructing that article. | ||
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| I am honored this morning Not a better way to kick off a week, particularly on the weekend we had with the 100,000 rally and the complete meltdown, the polling coming in, and now the complete meltdown by our bettors over at corporate media. | ||
| They have two giants in modern American history, not just in this movement, but in modern American history. | ||
| And here's why they're giants. | ||
| Not only did they put principle above their own good, but even when confronted, and this is the test, just like Trump, when confronted They don't back down. | ||
| They double down. | ||
| Mayor Rudy Giuliani, the greatest mayor in New York City ever had, and Dr. John Eastman. | ||
| Dr. Eastman, you were in Lansing, Michigan. | ||
| I thought it was going to be a small talk at a church, but it ended up you had to go over to a huge ballroom. | ||
| Why was that? | ||
| What was your talk about, sir? | ||
| Well, election integrity and lawfare. | ||
| The two greatest threats to our continuing vitality is a self-governing republic. | ||
| And I thought it was important for folks to hear what we knew in 2020 and the consequences of trying to highlight what we knew in 2020, because this is a threat to the rule of law. | ||
| It's a threat to all of us. | ||
| It's a threat to the consent of the governed. | ||
| And I sent a note. | ||
| I was going to be in town for a college graduation. | ||
| My daughter earned a master's degree down at Hillsdale, and I was going to be in town. | ||
| So I sent a note to a few friends of mine in Lansing and said, I'm here if you want to organize something with a few Happy to chat with folks. | ||
| And next thing I know, there are a couple hundred people signed up for the thing. | ||
| So it was a terrific response. | ||
| People are anxious to learn about all the details of what went on in 2020, and particularly this lawfare attacks on me, on Rudy, on President Trump, on anybody that dared try and expose what was going on. | ||
| And people were enthusiastic and asked what they could do to help. | ||
| So it was heartwarming. | ||
| I drew a lot of energy from the room as a result. | ||
| Rudy got bounced from WABC, the number one, he had the number one rated show on both afternoon | ||
| at three o'clock in New York City and Sunday morning for talking about the 2020 election. | ||
| What's the summary? | ||
| Just to summarize for the, for the, what you told the folks in Lansing about 2020, because | ||
| now the media is melting down that we're saying, hey, we ain't going to accept the 2024 election | ||
| until we see how it's run, until we see how it's certified, until we get the receipts | ||
| and we get the details. | ||
| And they're in full meltdown right now because, you know, they're plotting to steal this thing. | ||
| That's what they want. | ||
| They want an open guarantee up front. | ||
| Oh, yeah, we'll do it. | ||
| Whatever the results are going to be. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| This is we're going to pick this thing over a thousand times more closely than than 2020. | ||
| What were your words to the folks in Lansing about 2020? | ||
| Well, I reminded them that the legislature has plenary power to set the rules. | ||
| They did that and state election officials in each of the key states ignored or altered those rules on their own. | ||
| That was unconstitutional. | ||
| They eliminated signature verification. | ||
| They limited witness verification in Wisconsin. | ||
| They eliminated the bipartisan teams going into nursing homes. | ||
| They created drop boxes and human drop boxes where the law did not allow them. | ||
| And all of these things had a greater effect on the outcome of the election in each of those swing states than the margin of victory that was declared for President Biden. | ||
| And so and then anybody that then the second piece of it was anybody that raised those questions is now being persecuted. | ||
| With criminal prosecutions, with bar disciplinary proceedings designed to silence anybody that would say such things for the next election. | ||
| And they don't hide that. | ||
| They're brazen about it. | ||
| One of the co-founders of the 65 Project said, our goal is not just to get all these lawyers disbarred, but to make them so toxic in their firms and the communities that they won't ever take on these kind of election challenges again. | ||
| In other words, they want a free path to be able to steal the next election as well and nobody dare raise an objection about it. | ||
| And that's why people like me, people like Rudy and others are standing up so strongly to push back against this. | ||
| Because if we lose this fight, we cease to be a self-governing free people and we become subjects of an increasingly tyrannical government. | ||
| This is the fight for our time. | ||
| And it's comparable to the fight our grandfathers fought in World War I and World War II, or our founders fought against the tyrannical, increasingly tyrannical government from Great Britain. | ||
| And, you know, true patriots will be standing up and trying to fight about this. | ||
| Rudy, your thoughts, sir? | ||
| Well, I think the professor, as usual, has put my situation in In great, great context, much greater than I have or any of my lawyers. | ||
| The reality is I was being told that there was a policy at ABC, broadly, that you could not, I'm quoting now, you could not discuss or have conversations about the 2020 election on WABC or as an agent of WABC, which might include right now. | ||
| So what the professor just said I could not put on WABC or WABC would not cover. | ||
| A lot of it happened because in the last two weeks, you know, Georgia had a revelation. | ||
| These are coming out all the time, so it's impossible to cover them. | ||
| But they found 3,500 votes, absolutely multiple counted, and they are missing 275,000 ballots. | ||
| We don't have them anymore. | ||
| Well I mean, whatever the calculation for the outcome of the election, this is what we call in American news, that would be suppressed on WABC and they would want me to do it. | ||
| And they first brought that to my attention on Thursday and I told them, as you know how delicate I am and gentle, I told them in a very nice way I wouldn't do it. | ||
| And the end result is they fired me, they fired Dr. Ryan, they took my, that's They fired us. | ||
| And I began, without missing a beat, yesterday morning, 10 o'clock, on Covering the Truth, Dr. Ryan and I, with probably one of the biggest audiences we ever had, and we told the story of what happened in Georgia. | ||
| Because it's all being done for the purpose that the professor so brilliantly pointed out. | ||
| This isn't just, this is being done now because we're getting close to 2024. | ||
| And if you can shut us up, myself, Easton, you, whatever, about 2020, Much better chance of stealing 2024. | ||
| Okay, this is the key. | ||
| Hang on, hang on. | ||
| This is the key. | ||
| This is why they're putting all the pressure on now. | ||
| They understand they're losing. | ||
| They understand they couldn't stop Trump. | ||
| They understand that the way this regime has helped destroy the country, the economy, our sovereignty, the border, you know, our national security across the board, people are rising up against this. | ||
| They understand they have to steal 2024. | ||
| So what they want to do first is shut up everybody about 2020. | ||
| Professor Eastman, Dr. Eastman, I just want to go back to how you closed that about Project 2065, all of this. | ||
| They're trying to make any discussion of 2020 so toxic that you're immediately deplatformed, you're fired, you're disbarred, because they understand if you shut that down and terrify people about that, you won't have the fighters at the cutting edge to say, no, you're not going to steal 2024. | ||
| Dr. Eastman, your thoughts? | ||
| Yeah, my thoughts. | ||
| And first, I think it's important to clarify, Rudy and I are not talking about anything substantive with each other about the 2020 election. | ||
| That would put us in trouble with a court order down in Georgia. | ||
| We are talking about the ramifications of shutting people up and clearing the path for election theft. | ||
| in 2024 without anybody being willing to stand up to challenge it. | ||
| That's what the 65 Project is all about. | ||
| That's what States United Democracy Center is all about, and filing these bar disciplinary proceedings against people. | ||
| It's what the use of the terminology, election denier, that's an old Nazi era phrase, you know, a Holocaust denier. | ||
| They're trying to attribute that. | ||
| The big lie, that phrase, that Trump engaged in the big lie. | ||
| That itself is the big lie. | ||
| And they're using these tools, these rhetorical tools, these propaganda tools, to try and silence people into submission to accept whatever comes down the pike. | ||
| And that's not something that a free people should be willing to tolerate. | ||
| And increasingly, I'm seeing across the country people standing up. | ||
| You know, I was invited to give a little speech out in Palm Springs. | ||
| I thought it'd be 30, 40 people. | ||
| They had to rent out the Palm Springs Convention Center. | ||
| People are angry about what they're seeing and looking for direction on what they can do about it. | ||
| And that's why it's important to shine the light on election illegality whenever you see it. | ||
| People need to get involved at their local level. | ||
| They can become not just poll observers, but they can become poll workers. | ||
| They can right now begin reviewing the polling books. | ||
| If you've got 28 people registered in an efficiency apartment and you know that 28 people aren't living in that little one-room thing, raise objections. | ||
| Get those things cleaned up now so that there's less opportunity for Deadwood fraud on the ballot rolls. | ||
| But people need to take this matter seriously or we're going to lose something precious that we inherited and that is freedom and the right to have free and fair elections. | ||
| Dr. Eusman, before you bounce, I just want to go back. | ||
| You're seeing, like we're seeing, an increasing interest in this, particularly people that may be not engaged, whether it's in Lansing or Palm Springs or throughout the country. | ||
| People that were not that engaged the first time around understand something's very wrong with the country and they want to know more about 2020 so it doesn't happen again in 2024. | ||
| Is that what you're finding? | ||
| That's what I'm finding everywhere. | ||
| Every precinct in every county in the country, not just in the swing states, although particularly energized efforts in the swing states. | ||
| Dr. Eastman, how do people follow more of what you're going through? | ||
| How do they find out more if they want to participate or want to help? | ||
| Or even just push out information? Where do they go? | ||
| So the best place is my legal defense fund site, givesendgo.com. | ||
| They can donate to help us stay in the fight. | ||
| They can send prayers. | ||
| My wife and I read them. | ||
| They're heartwarming. | ||
| But we also use that as a blog where we post articles, links to articles that are particularly well done in describing what we're dealing with. | ||
| GiveSendGo.com slash Eastman. | ||
| If people want to reach out to you to come to their community and talk, where do they go? | ||
| You know, they could send me a message via that link, or they could send me a Twitter message, Dr. John Eastman. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Dr. Eastman, hang in there. | ||
| You're one of the toughest, smartest guys I know. | ||
| I know you're not going to back down. | ||
| You're one of the key drivers to make sure that we get a fair, free, and certifiable election in 2024 with a massive Trump win. | ||
| So, sir, thank you very much. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Here's the power of this, is that this is all coming from you. | ||
| All the corporate media, everything was aligned against us. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And now people are waking up. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because you're relentless as a force multiplier. | ||
| You're relentless as a patriot. | ||
| You're upping people's grills. | ||
| You're showing them the receipts. | ||
| You're giving them information, information they don't get anywhere else. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| It's having a massive, massive, massive impact. | ||
| It's one of the reasons that we push out so much of what President Trump says, particularly in the speeches he gives at these rallies. | ||
| And it's working. | ||
| Not working for Carvile, working for War Room. | ||
| Next. | ||
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| Okay, let me reiterate, make sure everybody can hear me loud and clear. | ||
| Trump's comeback This comeback that they never expected, that's where they're in panic mode now, because they thought they had everything with the democracy. | ||
| Remember Biden's speech, these guys are going to end democracy, the lawfare, the ADA charges, the putting him in prison and all this. | ||
| They thought they had so many firewalls that they'd never have to get with six months to go. | ||
| And I think four and a half months until ballast drop, I think it's in North Carolina, a couple of other places for early voting. | ||
| They never in a million years thought they'd be here. | ||
| That's why you see the long faces of Fareed Zakaria. | ||
| That's why you see the panic in Morning Mika. | ||
| And for Joe Scarborough, Joe Scarborough is talking about somebody's masculinity. | ||
| He's sitting there, he's run by Mika every morning. | ||
| It's the Morning Mika Show, and they've got to rename it. | ||
| He's just the side piece. | ||
| He's sitting there talking about Josh Hawley and other people and the Republicans' masculinity. | ||
| What? | ||
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What? | |
| Dude, look in the mirror, goofball. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| You see right now that Trump's the predicate, the underlying foundation of the energy in the urgency. | ||
| That led to the greatest comeback in American political history to now have their backs up and they're thinking through, hey, we got to steal this thing again. | ||
| So let's say, are you going to accept the election? | ||
| No, we're going to accept what's certifiable. | ||
| We're going to accept a free and fair election that we certify and make sure we sign off on it. | ||
| You've already stolen one. | ||
| You actually stole two. | ||
| You stole the first one too, his presidency, by the phony, all the phony nullification | ||
| project with all the phony stuff on Russia and what the deep state did. | ||
| You then outright stole the second one and the American people know it. | ||
| We have no platform. | ||
| We're tiny. | ||
| All these podcasts are tiny. | ||
| They had the vast, unbelievable corporate resources of the multinational corporations | ||
| and they treat you like idiots when they talk to you. | ||
| You can't even question it. | ||
| You were debanked, deplatformed, cut off everywhere. | ||
| We were cut, this show was cut off every, virtually 95%. | ||
| Of platforms. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| We're bigger than ever. | ||
| How is that? | ||
| Because of you. | ||
| You knew the truth, you got access to the truth, and you spread the truth, and now they're backs into the wall. | ||
| And there is nothing they won't do in order to keep Trump from taking the White House, including potential assassination. | ||
| It's one of the reasons I hope and pray, and I'm quite vocal about his security has got to be at the maximum, maximum, maximum level. | ||
| Because there's nothing else they can do to stop him and to stop this movement. | ||
| 100,000 people on a Saturday? | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| Joe Biden won't have that in this entire election campaign. | ||
| They had something in South Carolina the other day. | ||
| It's like 75 people, 100 people, and a third of the seats are empty. | ||
| You never hear him talk about the 81 million because they didn't get the 81 million. | ||
| They don't exist. | ||
| And they know that. | ||
| And they know that. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani, you have been, they've come after you in Eastman. | ||
| Here's where they've come after Rudy. | ||
| Rudy had Donald John Trump's back from the beginning on the steal and the country's back. | ||
| Rudy was the very first guy to step into the fire. | ||
| They know they have to take Rudy out. | ||
| They have to take Rudy out. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| Rudy Giuliani is now, he's still standing. | ||
| He's a bigger presence in American history than he's ever been. | ||
| Bigger than 9-11. | ||
| Bigger than when he put the Mafia in jail, bigger when he put Milken in jail, bigger than the great run he has as mayor, or when he ran for president. | ||
| You're bigger than you've ever been. | ||
| You're truly now a historic figure, brother. | ||
| And tell me, how did WABC reward you, particularly in the run-up, in the last four and a half months? | ||
| First of all, I should make it clear that WABC is screwing America. | ||
| election, Katz and Matides and WABC, screw you. | ||
| Nobody should listen to WABC until they reverse that. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani, you're too much of a gentleman to say that, Rudy. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| Brother, tell me about your fight with WABC. | ||
| First of all, I should make it clear that WABC is screwing America. | ||
| WABC, according to the letter written to me last week, first time I was notified about | ||
| I've been commenting on the 2020 election almost every day since the day it happened on WABC. | ||
| There are probably thousands of hours of my comment without objection. | ||
| All of a sudden, I get a letter on Thursday of last week, an hour before my show, saying, according to the policy of WABC, you're going to have no conversations about the 2020 election on WABC or as an agent of WABC. | ||
| No comment, no conversations. | ||
| It then gave three minor examples and then said, but with further, with much more, many more limitations without telling me what they were. | ||
| So I had a story that day involving cheating in Georgia. | ||
| New, new evidence, not going back to 2020, new evidence of three, uh, 300 and, um, 275,000 ballots missing, 3,500 ballots triple and quadruple counted. | ||
| I have documented evidence of doctored tapes done by some of the people involved there. | ||
| And I'm in the middle of a big appeal on this. | ||
| So I was going to bring it out, both because the American people are entitled to know this, To my own good, as well as everyone else's. | ||
| I get the letter. | ||
| It says I can't discuss the election at all. | ||
| It's a shock to me, since I've never been told this before. | ||
| And then I'm told that I have been informed of this four other times. | ||
| That Dr. Ryan and Ted Goodman, my associates, have been informed of it. | ||
| We were informed of nothing like this. | ||
| And not only that, had I been informed of it, I'd have walked out in a minute. | ||
| I'm not going to go work with anyone at any time, anywhere, that prohibits me from talking about maybe one of the most central issues to our democracy. | ||
| What happened in 2020? | ||
| For the simple reason that you can't fix 2024 unless you talk about 2020. | ||
| And I believe that this is being done now as opposed to six months ago when I was talking about it. | ||
| Because they realize That if we can rerun many of the things done in 2020, it will inhibit their cheating in 2024. | ||
| And I think they recognize they can't win now without cheating. | ||
| They have got to cheat. | ||
| So I think Dominion, that has an unholy relationship with the head of WABC, the CEO, John Castamatidis, John Poulos, and John Castamatidis... But hang on, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on, this is not a... Hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| You just heard That from Eastman, which I believe, he didn't say anything about machines. | ||
| This election, I don't believe, I've been adamant about this, I don't think it was stolen by machines. | ||
| They didn't need machines. | ||
| It was stolen by the mail-in ballots. | ||
| You saw across the country how they did the mail-in ballots and the phony voter rolls. | ||
| It's the phony voter rolls coupled with the mail-in ballots that give them every opportunity. | ||
| The machines, maybe, I don't know. | ||
| It hasn't been, I haven't bought into it. | ||
| I'm not a machine guy. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| Let's just take a break. | ||
| You're here in War Room. | ||
| We're going out with Nicole McGrady. | ||
| Rudy's going to be on the other side. | ||
| Mike Lindell is going to join us. | ||
| Ben Harnwell. |
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