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Episode 3320: Mass Manipulation Of The Population
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on this, people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
steve bannon
Okay, back by popular demand, Dr. Michael Nells, the book, The Indoctrinated Brain, an incredibly controversial book published in German at first.
Dr. Nels is German, a big bestseller there, then translated and published here in the United States by Skyhorse, the great guys, Tony Lyons and the team over at Skyhorse.
A forward by Dr. Naomi Wolf, as you know, one of our favorites here, and a great pitch in the back by Monica Crowley.
Okay, why is this book in Germany so controversial?
unidentified
Well, I'm not sure it's actually so much controversial.
It's not discussed by the other side at all, you know?
I mean, I see some... It's not discussed?
steve bannon
Total silence?
unidentified
No, it's total silence.
I mean, but on the other side, on the inside, the bubble of the people who can still think.
There, it's handed over from one guy to the next, and it's unbelievable.
I have never seen that before.
I have written four national bestsellers so far, and this is my fifth, besides a couple of other books.
But this one is really skyrocketing, and I was not sure that it would actually happen because I didn't see it coming because I thought actually people were tired, they're not interested anymore but I see now that the vaccination rates for example go down.
steve bannon
Oh they're clear, they're dropped to the floor.
unidentified
They drop and people are waking up and they want to know, they want to have an explanation and the book actually delivers such an explanation.
steve bannon
Actually, let's go through that.
I want to start with the explanation of the virus itself, and then I want to talk about the response.
Let's talk about the virus itself.
Explain that.
Did that just happen with a bunch of animals, birds, in the mountains of China, and it came down to a wet market?
Or was there something in a lab, and was that something nefarious?
unidentified
I think that's not a serious question anymore.
I mean, it's already obvious that the virus was created.
It was created with a plan.
It was created to make it a bioweapon.
And the bioweapon was mainly this insertion of the cleavage site, which is Actually, a patented sequence by Moderna from 2016.
So, it's clearly not by accident or by a natural cause that this virus exists, you know.
For the engineering, I think the likelihood that it's not engineered is so low we can essentially dismiss the idea.
steve bannon
But go back into January, February.
We shifted the show from impeachment to war and pandemic.
In that time when we were actually talking about this, because evidence was coming at the time, we were shut down.
We were taken off.
I mean, people banned us just for even the mention of that.
unidentified
Absolutely.
Every idea that is controversial to what is really happening is banned.
You know, I mean, that's happening in Germany.
It's happening everywhere.
And it was part of the plan.
I mean, there was an event in 2021 where they actually… They wore game to the south.
Yeah, I mean, in the book, there were ten commandments essentially coming out of this meeting where they said, what's going to happen?
And one was that we had to shut down everything that is controversial by the social platforms, for example.
And so that was clear that there was a plan behind that to get this injection program going.
steve bannon
But the question of course is... The injection program for the vaccine?
unidentified
For the vaccine, yeah.
I mean the virus, the lockdowns, everything is just essentially paving the way to the injection program.
steve bannon
Did these people outside the CCP in Wuhan, was there any type of other involvement, you think, besides just the Chinese Communist Party in Wuhan?
And did it inadvertently leak?
Or do you think they actually, on purpose, leaked it and forced the spread?
unidentified
Well, that's hard to say.
And actually, I personally Not by accident.
It doesn't make any sense, particularly if you look at all the evidence around it.
For example, having billions of these vaccinations ready in such a short time.
steve bannon
In China, when they did their vaccines.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
steve bannon
Which they've never created a vaccine in 10,000 years of their history.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
And even the vaccine that was, I call it vaccine, is not really vaccinating.
It's rather destroying the immune system, not allowing the immune system for a short period of time to create what we call the cytokine storm.
Because the cytochrome storm is the actual cause of severe COVID and death.
And the cytochrome storm can easily be prevented if you cross-raise the vitamin D level.
steve bannon
Is your theory the case that you presented here?
Increasing vitamin D is a very simple way to stop the spread of it or stop it after you've got it?
unidentified
Yeah, you reduce the spreading rate by about a factor of three, which the vaccination is not able to achieve.
And the likelihood of dying is essentially zero.
At 125 nanomoles per liter, it was actually published in a peer-reviewed paper, a meta-analysis from many, many clinical studies, and they showed that theoretically the likelihood of dying of COVID at 125 nanomoles, which actually is a natural level, in if you spend some time outside.
It's measured, for example, in Africa, in people who live outside where COVID had essentially no problem, created no problem.
At this level, there is essentially the likelihood of dying of COVID is zero.
steve bannon
Zero.
Zero.
unidentified
It's published actually in the title.
steve bannon
Why did then the, I'm sure PP you respect, the medical community, the research community, all these peer, you know, Lancet, Science, all of it, these revered peer-reviewed journals, why were they so almost like fascist in about any information, anybody doing independent research, why did they come down to lockdown so hard on that?
unidentified
Well, I mean, the question is who instrumentalized them essentially for that purpose?
And what is actually the purpose?
And that's what my book is about.
What is the purpose behind that?
You see, what I already Published years ago as Unified Theory of Alzheimer's Diseases, our Autobiographic and Memory Center is attacked by viruses or by any kind of inflammation.
Chronic inflammation is one of the major causes of Alzheimer's and depression.
It causes neuroinflammation is the term.
And I knew already from papers published in 2006-2007 from SARS-CoV-1, the predecessor of SARS-CoV-2, Probably also artificial, most likely.
steve bannon
SARS-CoV-1 back in 2003?
unidentified
2003, it tried to make a pandemic but was not very successful.
steve bannon
Do you think that that was actually artificial also?
unidentified
There are some hints to it, but if it wasn't, it doesn't really matter.
The point is, three or four years later, papers came out which showed that the neuroinflammation caused by the spike protein damages the autobiographical memory center.
And the autobiographical memory center, which is essentially the origin of Alzheimer's, that's why I call it actually the hippocampal dementia, because the autobiographical memory center has a seahorse shape in our brain here in the temporal lobe.
And the function is not only that we can memorize things that we learn, which is essential for survival, it also is important that we are curious.
that we have a high level of resilience, psychological resilience.
And most importantly, and I just finished a paper for Frontiers of Psychology, I just sent it off a few days ago, where I show that our mental energy to think resides in the autobiographical memory center, and specifically in the production of new nerve cells, which occurs there the whole lifetime.
So, like, our wealth of experience can grow because this This seahorse in our brain can grow up to the highest age.
steve bannon
In other words, you can continue to grow, not in Alzheimer's, which is a steady decline.
You're saying all the way to the end, you can continue to grow.
unidentified
Absolutely.
This is totally clear.
If we have a lifestyle which is more natural, if we don't have a lack, for example, in vitamin D, just getting the vitamin D level up from 20-25 nanomoles, which is more or less normal nowadays in populations like in the United States or in Germany, bring it up to 125, which has a zero kill rate with COVID.
You reduce your Alzheimer's risk by 70% just by this one simple measure.
steve bannon
Why is that not pushed?
Why is it, particularly here, MSNBC and CNN all night long, I mean commercial after commercial for all different types of things, but Alzheimer's particularly, five different types of drugs are coming out with.
Why does the establishment take a totally different view of that?
unidentified
Yeah, first of all, with Alzheimer's you make a lot of money.
It's a chronic disease and nothing that's out there will help because let's assume if a lack of vitamin D is maybe your personal cause of Alzheimer's but there could be any others like a lack of omega-3 fatty acids, a lack of purpose in life.
There are many things in my book.
It's actually a formula which I published Yeah, absolutely.
National Best Seller in Germany, it's a formula against Alzheimer's.
But this formula against Alzheimer's is also a formula against indoctrination because it stabilizes and pushes the abilities of our mental immune system.
steve bannon
So if you really want to conquer and— If you want to make a population docile, this is the way you do it.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
You have to destroy the mental immune system, and that's what's going on.
steve bannon
And that's the core thesis of your book.
unidentified
It shows how it works and it's even worse.
If you destroy the mental immune system, that meaning that you destroy the ability to produce these new nerve cells which the spike protein does in the brain, it produces, it creates neuroinflammation.
Neuroinflammation activates immune cells to produce cytokines, the same cytokines actually which are created by the cytokine storm and which kill people.
This cytokine storm in the brain deactivates the production of these new nerve cells and breaks down the immune system, the mental immune system of people.
And then, of course, you get indoctrinated with all these narratives with a lot of fear, a fear of a global war, of a pandemic which kills humanity, a war against climate because climate will kill humanity, and all these Devastating narratives will instill into your brain, but if these new nerve cells are not produced, they will override pre-existing memories.
steve bannon
Wow.
unidentified
And that's the key.
You override pre-existing memories.
steve bannon
So, in my book, I describe... The memories about freedom, the memories about liberty, the memories about your history.
unidentified
About everything, about your birthday, about your family, everything.
You're almost like an Alzheimer's patient in the going.
But you're not really an Alzheimer's patient.
This is just a collateral damage, the increasing rates.
steve bannon
And you're saying that the vaccine exacerbated even what the pandemic did, to make it worse and it's longer lasting?
unidentified
Absolutely.
The spike protein, we already know what the spike protein does.
The major, you know, brain fog.
People get long COVID, but also post-vac.
The brain fog, I call that spikopathy.
The spikopathy is caused by the spike protein.
And the major We're going to have you back on if we have to have it by Skype, but we want everybody to get this book.
steve bannon
It's The Indoctrinated Brain.
We've got a couple of minutes.
For those in the medical establishment, the biopharmaceutical establishment, the CDC, the Fauci of the world, to say you're nothing but a very smart researcher, but a complete total conspiracy wingnut.
What's your response?
unidentified
It has nothing to do with conspiracy, because it's all well published.
steve bannon
You're saying it's not a conspiracy, the facts are there?
unidentified
Yeah, the facts are there, and the people who, let's say, conspire, make it in the open.
They tell us they want to make a Great Reset.
But the Great Reset, the result of the Great Reset, the one they describe, is so adverse to human nature, That before you actually can install this new operating system in society, actually call it social operating society, save our souls, this operating system, when you install it, you have to erase the previous existing one, the cultural one.
And that is essentially in our minds, in our brain, in the hippocampus.
So we have to erase the hippocampus to install a new operating system.
And that's what's happening.
steve bannon
All week, we have a team led by Norbin Lund at Davos.
Their theme, it was the Great Reset.
This year, it's rebuilding trust.
unidentified
Why?
steve bannon
Because they understand that people like yourself have outed them.
Is that what they need to now say?
It's not Great Reset, it's rebuild trust?
unidentified
Yeah, the Great Reset.
I mean, it's already used in my book, for example, that you have to precede the Great Reset with the Great Mental Reset.
And I think people understand now, who are doing this to us, that they have to use different words now.
steve bannon
Because we're onto them.
unidentified
Yeah, we're onto them.
steve bannon
The indoctrinated brain.
Doctor, where do they go?
The book, you go to Skyhorse, you go to Amazon, anywhere, it's a bestseller.
In Germany, a bestseller.
Here, a bestseller.
Where do people go to get more information about yourself?
What's your website, social media?
unidentified
The website is michael-nels.com.
You can go there.
And I have a sub stack.
I have social media.
And I inform, besides the book, about new developments.
For example, how we can get rid of the brain fog very quickly.
steve bannon
Perfect.
Honored to have you here.
Thank you for coming to the United States.
And Tony Lyons and the team.
Just fantastic.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Make sure you go.
One thing we don't want brain fog on is why the central banks of the world are buying gold at record rates.
That would be everybody except the central banks in the western democracies.
We're working on digital currencies.
Who knows, right?
Why are we doing that?
Why are we printing unlimited amount of fiat currency while the global south, the BRICS nations, buy gold at record rates?
Go to BRICSgold.com.
Ask Philip Patrick and the team, why has gold been a hedge against times of turbulence for 5,000 years of man's recorded history?
Short commercial break.
Back in the warm in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to go back to Noor Ben Laden.
Noor, your thoughts on Dr. Nell's, of course, that book is a blowaway bestseller in Germany.
You can tell why.
Tony Lyons and the team at Skyhorse have put out the English translation of it.
It's already sold out.
It's back-ordered.
I want your thoughts on that, and I want to tie it to the warning you gave us, because folks, understand something.
The resistance to what you're doing, like we got victories in Taiwan, we have victories, the resistance is only going to get higher, harder, and tougher, because they're just not going to sit there and say, oh, the populist nationalists led by the MAGA movement in America first, wants to take over, let's just toss them the keys.
That's not going to happen.
We're going to have to punch our way through this.
Norbin Ludden from Davos, your observations and thoughts, ma'am.
noor bin laden
Steve, this was one of the most important segments you've put out, and I really encourage viewers who were just watching to re-watch it and to share it with everybody they know, because we need to understand that these people that are here in Davos, with the globalists at large, that one of one world government, they will stop at nothing to get us to comply with their agenda, including biological,
biological manipulations, as Dr. Nels just explained.
They... I mean, what Dr. Nels explained takes the term dumbing us down to another level.
They are manipulating our brains and our neuro-connectors in order to make us docile human beings, to use the term that you used, Steve.
And as I wrote in my letter to America, and as I've been saying, you know, looking at the history, especially the 20th century history, they have done everything in their power to poison us, mind, body, and soul, in order for us to be in a state of compliance.
And we've seen what happened with COVID, and to tie it up with what I was saying in the previous segment, It's incredibly, I mean, I'm sad to say this, and I don't want to partake in the fear mongering that these people are pushing, but we have to be prepared that 2024 is going to be a very chaotic, turbulent year, and we cannot put it past them.
They're going to deploy another another plandemic because I agree with Dr. Nels, this was manipulated and launched on the population.
As you said, they war-gamed this whole thing in September 2019 with the event 201.
So it's not just going to be potentially another plandemic.
And as I wrote in my subsec article that I published today, maybe it's going to be a series of Black Swan events.
We have to be prepared in 2024 that they're just going to launch anything they can at us because they do not want us to be sovereign, independent individuals.
And I just want to read one more quote that Klaus Schwab said today.
On stage, he said, we risk becoming much more ego-centered on a national and individual level.
To break this cycle, we need a paradigm shift.
He said this today, Steve.
And the paradigm shift he's talking about is to move away from a system where we are sovereign human beings to a system where we are mere cogs in a machine.
QR codes, as I said last year, reporting from this very same place.
They want us to be QR codes that are trapped in digital jails of their making and their entire agenda is just that.
It is anti-human and they will spare, they will go to any lengths necessary in order to reach that goal.
steve bannon
Do you get a sense, before we leave you, and we really admire you staying on The Cold Force and being there, the audience loves it.
Is there a sense of worry?
Are they concerned about it?
We think we're ascendant here.
We see the momentum.
We see people awakening every day, more information they get.
You can see this in all the polling.
But in Davos, are they Are they at a deep level of concern or just think we're pests?
Are they now absolutely concerned that people across the world have not bought this and they're about to be turfed out?
What is your sense after a couple days of the rebuilding trust, Davos?
noor bin laden
I think it's a mix.
It's a mix between them being completely delusional and high on their meager scraps of power.
that their masters have granted them, and at the same time they realize that people are waking up in the world to what they have been plotting and scheming and implementing for over decades, if not at least the last two centuries, going back to the early 1800s.
And this is the time where It's coming to a head.
It's either we remain humans and we push forward with this MAGA America First agenda, because that is what it stands for, because it defends what the founding fathers enshrined in the Declaration of Independence In the Constitution, in the Bill of Rights.
These three documents and the whole ideology behind them is kryptonite to the New World Order, Great Reset Agenda, 2030 Agenda.
And they have to do everything in their power to squash any dissent and any voices that are proponents of the America First movement.
In order to push forward with the Agenda 2030 Agenda, and this is the fight that is going on right now.
But I do believe, because I want to end on an optimistic note, I do believe that no matter how hard it's going to be in 2024, no matter the black swan events that they throw at us, we will get across.
We will go through this dark tunnel and reach the light on the other side, but not Without a fight.
You used the term fight earlier, Steve.
Not without a fight.
We have to fight this with everything we've got.
steve bannon
Nor, your Substack, your social media, how do people keep up with you, particularly before your hit tomorrow here?
I know people want to follow everything you're doing there.
Where do they go?
noor bin laden
My Twitter and getter are NorbinLaden, NorbinLaden.substack.com, and with my friend Nick Scheruti, we also created another website called WeEndFreedom.com, where we put together a bunch of websites and videos to get informed and educated on the WEF agenda and what they're doing here.
steve bannon
Noor, fantastic work.
I look forward to getting back and talking to you tomorrow.
noor bin laden
Thank you so much, Stephen.
Thanks to everybody.
steve bannon
Thanks.
You're a beloved contributor, ma'am.
I think if you take Noor's first hit, Rosemary Jenks' hit, Dr. Nell's hit, and Noor Bin Laden's summary, so that took us about 45 minutes.
And if you take out the commercial time, let's say it took 35 minutes.
That is the single best summary of not just what we're up against, but this is why they hate President Trump.
They understand he understands us.
He gets it.
And that's why he's put it.
Think about it today.
He's up in this defamation thing.
I know they've already stripped him, but trying to strip him of his company.
They're going to come back and do that.
They have the 700 years, 800 years in prison.
That's all falling apart.
And you saw last night on MSNBC, the absolute, they can't understand, get in their head why it doesn't matter.
The lawfare has no bearing whatsoever.
In fact, it empowers people to support him more.
But right there, he's seeing the sophisticated.
Blockage in front of us by the globalists and how powerful they are and how much money they have and how it's interconnected.
And that's manifested in the Senate amnesty.
Remember, this comes off of this global migration crisis and the global migration compact that Oscar Blue Ramirez continues to remind us every time he's reporting from the Darien Gap, or from southern Mexico, or from down in the Panama Canal region when he points to the camps run by the NGOs and the United Nations today, or the Heritage guys, Mike Howell and the team up here talking about the NGOs, or Ben Berkow.
This is all about, it gets down to something very basic and very essential, the sovereignty of this country.
They understand if they break the United States, Of our sovereignty and the sovereignty of our citizens.
They can control and rule everything.
They get that.
And that's why you stand in the breach.
And that's why this week is shutdown week.
This is another and I would love to be able to tell you.
Hey, I'm just going to take a magic wand out.
We're just going to think and everything's going to be better.
So are we fine?
It's not the situation in Taipei in Taiwan was a struggle and hey, it's just started now.
Now that CCP is coming for him.
Last night in Iowa, opening salvo, magnificent.
But hey, it's already a struggle.
The powers, the forces against us are going to, once again in New Hampshire and thereafter.
So this is a continual struggle and a fight, and it's just like our revolution.
If you want to give up in the first six months, hey, the British are fine with that.
Don't have Trenton.
Don't have Christmas night.
Don't cross the Delaware.
Don't survive at Valley Forge.
That's that's the your country's DNA and that you're standing in the breach now.
And it's going to be a fight.
It's going to be a fight.
And they're looking for you to get depressed.
They're looking for you to get overwhelmed.
They're looking for you to get distracted.
They're looking for you to go chase shiny toys.
But we have to focus on the thing itself, and that's why the twin convergence of the invasion of our country and the out-of-control spending that's burying not just future generations, but you in the audience today, whether you can't afford to buy a home, you can't maintain a car, I've got all those up on Getter.
All these stories are breaking non-stop.
That's why this week is shutdown week, and Johnson and these people, you're going to have to listen to you.
202-225-3121.
Call them up and say, hey, you do not secure the border, then shut down the government.
Close the border or close the government.
Shut down the border, shut down the government.
And no, it's not, it's not attached to Ukraine spending.
That's a zero right now.
This is attached about the ongoing funding of this debacle.
unidentified
Okay, we take a short commercial break.
steve bannon
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Nigel Farage joining us from Iowa.
Nigel, thank you.
You've been a surrogate out there.
You've also been doing news.
Tell us what the ascendancy of this populist nationalist movement in the United States led by President Trump has got him shaking from Wall Street to the City of London to Davos, sir.
Give us your assessment and analysis since you were the leader And taking the sovereignty back of your nation and giving it to your people back in June of 2016 after, I don't know, 20 years of hard work.
Nigel Farage.
nigel farage
Good morning.
Well, Steve, just as Brexit was a victory for grassroots folk standing up against the establishment, what happened in Iowa last night was a huge grassroots MAGA victory.
You know, if you look at the Republican Party in this state, you'll see that a huge number of people here, local Congress, local senators, even the governor were all behind Ron DeSantis.
But no, despite the extremely cold weather, despite terrible road conditions, they turned out and voted for Trump.
And he won nearly every single county bar one in the whole of the state of Iowa.
So this is a dramatic MAGA victory.
And you can add to Trump's 51 percent, of course, nearly 8% that Vivek got because he was running as, you know, the younger generation MAGA candidate.
So I think what you can see is that, you know, whilst the rhinos may have huge power still within the Republican Party around the country, actually, the grassroots messages that Donald Trump has been championing since 2015, are in many ways stronger than ever.
And you know, perhaps At top of that list ought to be the border.
That was Trump, wasn't it?
Running in 16 saying, build a wall.
We've got to protect our southern border.
This could do terrible damage to our country.
And now, many, many years on, I think there are voters right across America can see that this man was right.
So it's a really, really big win.
Nikki Haley isn't going to give up.
She's clearly hoping something might happen for her in New Hampshire.
But I'm pretty sceptical about that.
steve bannon
Nigel, but I want to go, you mentioned all the officials and particularly Kim Reynolds before she started this was quite popular.
That's not going to last given her support of dissenters against President Trump.
It's the same thing in England.
I want people to understand that this is a global phenomenon.
You had these grassroots populist movements, these grassroots nationalist movements, these grassroots sovereignty movements, and no matter how small the rump is of the resistance of the establishment, they're backed by money and they're backed by the media.
Your assessment, because in the United Kingdom right now, you with the Tories, President Trump with the establishment Republicans, is virtually the same fight on virtually almost the same topics.
nigel farage
Yes, the fights are very similar indeed and, you know, the official Conservative Party in the United Kingdom is very much in the hands of the big global corporates, very much in the hands of the banks, bows down of course to global media, doesn't like any sort of MSM criticism.
Yeah, our Conservative Party is totally in the hands of the rhinos and that's why they're failing in the polls, it's why they're heading towards What could be perhaps even a cataclysmic election defeat to Labour at some point later on this year.
The difference though, Steve, is this.
That in America, because of the open primary system, you still have a way of fighting back.
And Iowans showed that last night.
We in the UK have no such mechanism.
You know, seeing the caucuses taking place here, I have to say as a Brit, I'm extremely jealous.
It's easier for your grassroots to have a say than it is for ours.
steve bannon
Why is that?
How have they structurally shut you guys out?
Because you were able to accomplish Birx's, and I realize you had to go to a referendum.
And look, the MAGA movement back in its infancy took a lot of lessons.
The Tea Party, when I went and saw you the first time years ago, following you around Middle England, I could see the elements of the Tea Party in what you were doing.
But later, the MAGA movement and the Trump movement took an awful lot of lessons from you on how to get your sovereignty back.
What's the resistance to you structurally now?
nigel farage
Yeah, I mean, look, I was a great grassroots campaigner, Steve.
And yeah, you know, when you and I first met, I was going around and I was, I used to call myself the Billy Graham of the sovereignty movement.
You know, I was going out, I was going out and speaking in, you know, village halls and town squares and saying, you know, if you believe in what I'm saying, stand up and join me, you know.
And I did that for over 20 years.
As you said, in the end, I managed to win.
The problem we have is that to get back control of our Conservative Party, the only people who make that decision effectively are the members of Parliament.
And that's where the rhinos, the British rhinos, are in the ascendancy.
If we had caucuses, if we had open caucuses for where the Conservative movement in Britain was going, let me tell you, This guy, Rishi Sunak, would not be our Prime Minister.
He would not be leading the Conservative Party.
And some would say that maybe even I would be in with a chance.
So, you know, for us, it is very, very difficult.
We have to hope that out of the ashes of an election defeat and with reform coming up on the wings and gaining a number of votes, we have to hope that we can take back control of a Conservative Party after they've lost.
But, you know, This system of open primaries is what gave you Donald Trump in the first place.
It's what enabled you to get rid at the top of the country club.
Republicans, the problem is they're still very powerful.
It's still a huge fight.
But what I always showed you last night is you're going to win.
Trump is going to be the nominee.
And I think, hey, you know what?
He's going to be the 47th president.
I feel it very, very strongly.
steve bannon
Nigel, you've got pretty good instincts in my years of knowing you.
Could you give a warning to folks, particularly after Brexit came in, the globalists still, you know, Brexit still today has not been implemented like it should have been implemented.
They always looked at the British establishment, Boris Johnson's guys, always looked at it as a problem to be solved instead of an opportunity to be grasped.
What warning do you have to the American people to our grassroots movement that support President Trump about the globalists in Davos, the city of London, Wall Street?
What can what should we be on the watch for?
nigel farage
Well, I think, you know, if you look back at that four years that Trump had as president and he succeeded in many things, some great moves on the economy, some phenomenal moves, I thought, in areas of foreign policy, the one thing he was never able to do Yes, of course you've got Wall Street, Davos, and these people will always fight for the big global corporates.
They're against the ordinary man and woman setting up their own business, doing their own thing.
The other huge battle that Trump is going to face in a second term as president is the administrative state and the sheer power of that state.
And to win and to start the fight back against that, he's going to need to have Congress absolutely behind him with the right people being elected, because it's going to be one hell of a fight.
steve bannon
Last thing, Nigel, because you've been at the forefront of this.
Zelensky's in Davos today saying that Europe's got to be combat ready.
They're trying to do with the Federal Reserve and the Treasury, take the Russian bonds that have been in American banks that we've frozen, but to actually convert them into cash, give it to the Ukrainians, like three to five hundred billion dollars, because they understand the populist movement here, the MAGA movement here, doesn't want one more penny to Ukraine.
What warning or observation do you have on the situation there?
nigel farage
Look, I think, you know, we've been told from the very start that if we back Ukraine, Ukraine will win.
It's perfectly clear that Ukraine is not winning.
But if I can give you a slightly more European perspective on it, Steve, you know, remember that countries like Poland are genuinely very, very scared of Putin, rightly or wrongly.
I do understand that President Macron has invited Putin to go to the 80th D-Day remembrances that will take place this June.
And I would just say this.
The one thing that needs to happen and happen quickly is there need to be negotiations.
You know, no war ends well without a peaceful negotiation of some kind.
We need to have negotiations, but don't underestimate the fear that the Poles, Latvians and the Lithuanians have.
Trouble is, the more money we give to Zelensky, the more we know is going to get swallowed up in fraud.
steve bannon
Nigel, your show, how do people, particularly getting here online, your writings, social media, all of it, your show's number one, number one news show in the United Kingdom, as we told you it would be when you started.
How do people get all the access to all your content?
nigel farage
Yeah, it's really going well.
I have to say, GB News is proving to be a broadcasting revolution, Steve.
And when I won News Presenter of the Year last year, I was roundly booed by absolutely everybody.
The majority of my content is, oh yeah, it was amazing.
I went out to collect the prize and they all started booing.
So I gave them a little speech, rather like my ones in the European Parliament, which drove them into complete frothing frenzy.
I'm sure they'd love me to be banned.
It ain't gonna happen.
But my daily output is all there on GBNews.com.
steve bannon
Nigel, from the entire MAGA movement, the America First movement, everybody that works with President Trump and supports this movement, we really thank you for coming over.
You're a tremendous surrogate.
I remember on the campaign in 16, one morning we caught on it and Morning Joe and the guy from the New York Times, these geniuses, were mocking.
I was running the campaign at the time.
Bannon doesn't know what he's doing.
I think it was in Jackson, Mississippi.
And we had you open for President Trump and had all the folks in Jackson, literally a 10 minute standing ovation.
They knew everything about Brexit.
And here's these geniuses in New York and the New York Times are going, what does Bannon have this weird English guy up there for, right?
That nobody in Jackson, Mississippi has ever heard about.
And you saw the screen in the back and it's a standing ovation.
People are going crazy.
So you know you're beloved here, sir, and we really want to thank you for coming over to Iowa and participating in this great surrogate and great news.
So thank you so much from the bottom of everybody's heart here in the United States.
Thank you.
An individual for 20 years, when I went and saw him, it was one man alone.
And what did he deliver in June of 16?
He delivered, gave his country its sovereignty back.
Now a lot of people came into that movement and helped him.
That's Nigel Farage, and it's a great lesson for all of us.
I hope today we understand.
A huge victory last night, but as I said on Charlie Kirk's broadcast, Last night with Jack Posobiec, the most important thing we do is get up this morning and understand we've got a long, tough fight ahead of us.
And it's a long, tough fight.
Not just to win, and win in massive numbers, but then to govern.
Because don't think for a second they're just going to toss you the keys and say, oh, this is terrific.
Nigel just won you right there.
Probably the nastiest fight we're going to have is against the administrative state and the Praetorian Guard that protects everything here.
So just remember that.
By the way, Charlie Kirk follows us at noon for two hours, then Jack Passoe.
We're going back here five to seven tonight.
President Trump is actually going to speak in that time, but I'm going to have Boris and a bunch of, I think folks, Mike Davis, hopefully for the legal team.
We'll break all that down, the politics.
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Mike, tell our audience 15 years ago today, what happened?
unidentified
Well, 15 years ago today, I overnight, I quit crack cocaine and every addiction I was on, it was God set me free of everything.
It was January 16, 2009.
So it's 15 years.
two day and there's the picture of the drug dealers actually did an intervention there on the left and that was a picture taken by them and then that's my book, What are the Odds from Crack Addict to CEO.
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And if you go there, LyndaleRecoveryNetwork.org, and it's set so many other This is what I thought I would be doing, is getting people off drugs and stuff.
unidentified
I had no idea that 15 years later I would be involved in everything else that's going on in this country.
But to me, it's a date that changed my life forever.
It was a different path.
I was going down a really bad path and I knew if I waited one more day, it would be over.
So we all have callings and everything.
steve bannon
God works in mysterious ways.
You're an instrument, no doubt, just like President Trump.
I'm going to have you back on this afternoon.
President Trump's going to be speaking.
Mike, I just want to thank Nigel.
I want to thank you coming off this huge victory.
We've got so much work ahead of us, including New Hampshire.
But I want to thank you for all the effort.
People have no idea.
What this guy does behind the scenes to make sure that we close on the massive victory we're going to have.
And so Mike, if I can represent the audience in the MAGA move in America first, thank you.
And that it was providential that you got off drugs and now put your energy into the company and put your energy into this.
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Mike, we'll have you back on.
Mike, President Trump's going to speak this afternoon.
We're going to tuck the whole show into that, because we know we want to hear him, particularly as he's going to be on fire.
He's in a Manhattan court now, but he's going to be on fire this afternoon.
Talking about how we're going to wrap this thing up next Tuesday night.
So, Mike Lindell, thank you, and happy anniversary.
Pretty big deal, 15 years ago.
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Thank you, Mike.
Appreciate it.
That picture, man.
Wow.
unidentified
Woo!
steve bannon
That would scare me.
Mike Lindell from Times Past.
Okay, we've told you there's two issues here for people and we want to make sure people put the fear aside.
One is the credit card situation.
We've had the credit card guys on.
The other is the tax situation.
Josh Hanna from Tax Network USA, a VP over there.
Josh, give me a couple minutes.
This is one of the biggest fears.
When people miss these, all of a sudden they can't sleep at night.
Walk us through what you guys provide because this tax situation with these new IRS agents are only going to get worse.
Put our audience's fears to rest, sir.
unidentified
Thanks for having me, Steve.
The big thing is the IRS is gearing up like never before.
They've hired Treasury officers, field agents, and collection agents by the thousands.
And they started in 2024 with a bang.
They sent out in between 5 and 7 million collection letters.
And it's going to turn up from there.
That's the first letter of a series of letters that began to get a lot more serious.
Callers need to understand, specifically, they need to know, your viewers need to know, that if they have unfiled tax returns or balances held with the IRS, and they call the number on the letter and get to the IRS, they're actually waiving their rights, their taxpayers' rights.
Uh, in having a representative, uh, you know, get it on the phone and understand the tax code and understand what they have to disclose, uh, to get the relief they need and what they don't have to disclose more importantly, uh, by law.
Uh, that's really the most important thing is not waiving your rights and letting the government take advantage of you.
steve bannon
So the key thing, if you get a letter, if you're behind, you're worried about it, tell me how they get in touch with you guys.
And I just want to give a warning.
Don't make the phone call to the IRS.
Implicit in this is a waiving of your rights.
You can't do that.
You've got rights.
That's where you got to talk to professionals.
Where do they go to fill out the forms or talk to you guys to make sure that they don't, you know, inadvertently jump the process here and get themselves into something that they can't.
They're boxed in.
That's what we want to keep you from getting boxed in.
So how'd they go to you guys?
unidentified
Absolutely.
Well, they can either visit TNUSA.com.
Okay.
They can call that toll free number at the top there.
You know, really there's a free consultation where they can make an educated decision how they want to handle their tax issue.
We can jump on the phone with them and the IRS and conduct a practitioner's call, which will allow us to exercise their rights.
and request a verbal collection hold while we gather a strategy, or we can file what is called a declaration of representatives, excuse me.
It's a 2848 tax power of attorney, and that's a power of attorney that allows, it's strictly for the IRS, and it allows us to request documents, speak on their behalf, and negotiate the outstanding balances.
steve bannon
I want, okay.
Grace, I want everybody to push this website and the 800 number.
We're going to have you back on here, Josh, because I don't want people to be waiving their rights when they don't understand what they're waiving.
Thank you so much.
Tax Network USA, Josh.
Hannah, the vice president, we'll have him back on here.
The credit card situation and the tax situation are two sides of the same coin.
Do not fear not.
There's help out there.
This is part of a process.
Just trust the process.
Okay?
Charlie Kirk, what a job he and Posobiec did last night.
Charlie Kirk's up next.
Two hours of populist nationalism.
Jack Posobiec follows that.
Also, I should let you know that, well, I'll tell you at five o'clock.
We'll talk about Posobiec at five.
Charlie Kirk next.
Posobiec after that.
We're back five to seven live.
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