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Episode 3070: The Lack Of Leadership
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
President Trump got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bowne.
Get tea behind me, Satan, for I command it in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Get tea behind me.
Oh, I commanded in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. I looked into the mirror and I couldn't see myself.
The demons that were in me, had turned me wrongside out.
I knew inside my soul, I was headed straight for hell.
But I couldn't for my life, figure out how to help myself.
And I said, get thee behind me, sin, for I command it in the name of the Lord, Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Yeah, get thee behind me, sin, for I command it in the name of the Lord, Jesus Christ.
The moon and stars were hidden by the shroud that clouded round.
I could see my loved ones weeping as they lured me in the ground.
No words were spoken over me, I almost thought I died.
Then I knew I wasn't dead, I had been buried alive.
And I said, get thee behind me, sin, for I command it in the name of the Lord, Jesus Christ.
steve bannon
A Monday when we're fighting for the salvation of our country?
The New Jerusalem?
Get thee behind me, Satan.
Because I'm telling you, there's a lot of demonic people in this capital.
Pure demonic.
They understand exactly what they're doing.
They understand exactly what they're doing.
This is all... This is not random.
It's not conspiracy.
See, it's right up in your face.
Those lawyers are sitting there, controlling those committees.
You think normally professionals would be that pathetic last Thursday in the impeachment?
They have no intention of impeaching Joe Biden.
No interest.
The money and interest?
unidentified
No, no, no.
steve bannon
We don't want to do that.
They don't want to do that.
They happy talk Trump.
They happy talk Trump all the time.
It's not happening.
It's not happening.
They certainly not.
If it was going to happen, they would hire more staff.
They would have more killers on there that don't.
It's McCarthy's lawyers controlling that.
McCarthy's lawyers are controlling it.
Just like everything about this deal they cut over the weekend was to preserve the viability of Glenn Youngkin because he's the great white hope for them to take on Trump.
They're all Yunkin.
Yunkin, Yunki, Yunkin.
It's all you hear over there.
You get in those rooms, it's all you hear.
And Yunkin, we gotta preserve Yunkin.
Yunkin's our guy.
Yunkin's the second... He's the restoration of the Bush.
He's restoration of Bush.
It ain't called Parents' Rights anymore in the Commonwealth.
It's called Parents' Matters.
We know Parents' Matters.
It's Parents' Rights.
Parents know they matter.
Billy Joe Shaver and John Anderson.
God, I love that song.
So appropriate for the day and the time we're in.
You're in the War Room, Monday, 2 October, Year of Our Lord 2023.
We've got a fighter in our hands, folks.
If I can make an NFL football analogy, look, you know, you see these teams, the Dolphins, you get these guys, and they're hot, and man, everything's happening, and then they get blown out the next week.
It's just get better with every game.
Get better with every set of downs.
Just get better.
Keep moving forward.
You're going to have bad days.
Just keep moving forward.
Do not stop.
Do not surrender.
Right now, we're in a fight for the speakership.
And they've got another 47 days.
They're dying.
What they want to do is another CR or go right to Omnibus.
So that you can't get into the end of it.
They hated what happened last week.
They hated said, Hey, we got to shut this thing down.
We can't do this.
And we didn't, we got barely, we got some of what we wanted, but not nearly enough, not nearly enough in the cuts and not nearly enough on the, on the woken weaponized.
If they were serious, the woken weaponized would be out.
You would defang it, defund it, de-weaponize it, de-woken.
They don't want any of that.
They want all that, you know, Remember, we had people over in Geneva reporting on the World Health Organization loss of your sovereignty.
How does that even come up?
How does that even happen?
It took people like Michelle Bachmann and Ben Laden over in Switzerland to out it.
And our brother, the independent investigator in In California.
You're paying for that, and all that's in there, they're paying for it.
You're paying for all of it.
All of it.
Everything that's suppressing you, everything that's taking your freedom away, everything that's shredding the Constitution, you're paying for it.
And now, since we can't pay for all of it, we gotta borrow it.
E.J.
and Tony, I wanna bring you on.
We'll go back to the border.
I got Ben Burquam down there in El Paso, Texas, on our wall there.
It's still the best model wall ever built.
Ever.
Don't believe me?
Go watch the film.
You haven't seen Saqqara yet.
Watch that.
That tells you what you're dealing with.
That tells you exactly what you're dealing with.
The folks down there, it's an onslaught.
September was the third worst with all the happy talk and everything about this.
It's the third worst month in history.
This is the Visigoths.
The Visigoths.
It's a pure out flat invasion.
And now we know from the Inspector General, they're not even taking the addresses where these people are going to be.
They just put down something, you know, McDonald's in, you know, Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Then they just get on a bus and go.
President Trump said the other day, he had this amazing interview with Sheryl Atkinson.
At Sheryl X, I think over at Sinclair, and he laid it out about the mass deport, largest deportation effort in American history.
It's going to be underway the day he takes, the day he takes office.
That's what, what do you think they're fighting so for?
What do you think they're up to?
He's in New York today to be bankrupt.
EJ, you brought up something last week and now other people are talking about it.
You used to, I want to go back.
This is not just follow the Fed and the Fed's this and the Fed's that.
We got, we got a deeper problem.
We have a systemic problem now.
And the systemic problem is that we have to finance out of the box $2 trillion of fresh debt, but we have to refinance $8 trillion of old debt at 500 basis point higher interest rates.
The crimes that were never solved from the meltdown in 2008 We're now going to pay for now because now you've had them low for over a decade.
Now they're coming due.
And this is going to... EJ, let me ask you.
You do this for a living.
Are we, in your mind, ever going to pay off a penny of principal?
The more we add to the principal, will we ever pay off a penny of the principal?
Or now we're just on the treadmill just to figure out how we're going to pay for the interest expense, sir?
ej antoni
Well, Steve, we're certainly not on track to pay for any principal right now, that's for sure.
Unfortunately, this Congress and this White House have absolutely zero discipline.
When it comes to the nation's finances, but eventually the global economy is going to force their hand.
What I mean by that is you will get to a point where investors realize that they simply can't get paid.
And that's what a lot of a lot of bond investors in particular right now are starting to realize.
That is why the 20 and 30 year bonds continue to tick higher.
Austin Goolsbee, who's the president of the Chicago Fed right now and This is the most charitable thing I can say, but he's an absolute joke and a sham.
He says that he's scratching his head and can't figure out why long-term rates are rising.
I'll tell you why.
It's because no one believes the lie anymore.
No one believes that this is sustainable.
No one believes that the government can actually pay this back at the current trajectories, at the current trends.
And so unless we see some radical, and I mean radical, changes, people eventually are simply going to wash their hands of the United States sovereign debt market and are going to refuse to buy treasuries at any price.
steve bannon
When that happens, where does that leave us?
ej antoni
That leaves us in a, maybe not hyperinflation scenario, but a very, very strong inflation scenario because the only buyer left at that point of Treasuries will be the Federal Reserve.
They will simply monetize the national debt in its entirety.
steve bannon
In other words, we're basically making up the bonds and we're buying them.
Which is another another joke when you can't even sell them.
Is there anything this weekend with the collapse of the of quote-unquote the Republicans of McCarthy just with McConnell teaming up with Schumer and Biden that shows you any discipline in this crowd at all?
Now we had 92 people I think vote against.
If you had Luna and Donaldson, you had 92 vote against this, but have you seen, so you're getting to a majority of the majority.
Have you seen any discipline, any focus, given the little bit of it we just had last week, the glint of it, and that's still not nearly enough, because the cuts weren't nearly enough.
Not even beginning to have the cuts that you have to have.
Do you think that this crowd up there that's running things today, McCarthy and this crowd, have the discipline and the focus to be able to stop the madness?
ej antoni
Well, Steve, they're certainly better than Paul Ryan and his crew.
Now, to a certain extent, that's damning with faint praise, I understand.
But I think these people are a little more aware of just how bad the situation is getting.
They certainly don't understand it fully, but they're at least a little bit more awake in some sense.
But at the end of the day, it frankly I don't think even matters who is in charge in Washington, D.C., because ultimately these people are first and foremost politicians, and they will do what they need to do, for the most part, to get re-elected.
And so it is up to us, it is up to we the people, to exert enough political influence on them to make them aware that they will not get re-elected if they do not do what we want them to do, which in this case is to drastically reduce I think it's Brian Rydell.
steve bannon
I think he's at Manhattan Institute.
He had a column on CNN, I think it was last week, but he talked about a paper he'd written years ago that I read, where he said that because everybody assumed interest rates would never get back over 4%, That once it once 10 years over 4% and you got to start refinancing all this you're going to accelerate the crash of the United States economy is going to happen quite quickly after that.
Your thoughts on that how dangerous a territory we're in now when you pointed out we have $8 trillion refinance this year.
And we're going to have to get the capital markets to eat this credit.
You know, we're going to take that away from productive capital just to pay the interest on this thing.
What are your thoughts?
Once these rates get structurally set above 4%, how bad is that for us?
ej antoni
Terrible, Steve.
I mean, is it a doomsday scenario?
Well, that depends on how far we want to continue this runaway government spending.
But the low interest rates that we saw after the dot-com crash and then certainly after 9-11, that is what allowed us, for example, to finance the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and all the other overseas excursions that we had under both Bush and Obama.
It's what allowed us to finance the ridiculous bailouts During the global financial crisis and the mortgage meltdown, and the same thing with COVID, and now everything that we've been spending money on under Joe Biden.
And so at the end of the day, you know, the bill always comes due.
The sins of the past will catch up with you, be they moral or monetary.
And right now we are basically seeing more than two decades of those sins confront us in a very, very violent way.
steve bannon
Last thing, can I hold you to the break?
When you say the last couple decades, this actually goes back to, in fact, I'm going to hold your answer to after the break, we're going to drop a bomb on people.
This actually goes back, the railhead of this was 1933, when FDR took us off of gold, and the reason is they wanted to have the ability to spend like crazy, at the time of the Great Depression.
And then it was Nixon in the 70s.
Let's take a short break.
We've got kind of a bombshell here.
I don't think a lot of people thought through.
unidentified
E.J.
steve bannon
Antoni joins me.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
If we're going to get out of here, if we're going to get out of this, if we're going to get out of this box canyon where we've taken the nation, you've got to know how we got And you have to know who's accountable, who's responsible for that, who's accountable for that.
Because, you know, all the happy talk you're hearing from a lot of people on the payroll of Murdoch News, it's just all happy talk.
And they're the same people that cheered on the Iraq war, same people cheered on the Afghan war, same people cheered on Bush before the 2008 collapse.
All the cheerleaders.
Same people cheered on what happened in January, back McCarthy.
Same people cheered on.
Oh, you can't have a debt.
The debt's saying, you gotta, oh my gosh, you can't, you can't, you can't.
No, always their hair on fire.
Can't do it.
Say, no, not the end of the world.
We're not going to have a default.
Not going to default on the credit card.
We got plenty of cash to pay the interest.
So it's all a lie.
You, you know, oh my God, it's a, it's just terrible.
Capital markets.
No, no, no, no, no.
Done a lot of restructurings.
Take a deep breath.
Take a deep breath.
Calm down.
Same group.
Now, you know, Gates, he's a devil.
McCarthy just gave you the answer.
If Grace and Mo can put that up while I'm there.
In fact, I'll prove this right now.
If you go and put this up even as we speak, we're trying to get the clip.
Manu Raju over at CNN, he's the guy over there always with the microphone.
The guy works 20 hours a day tracking down stories.
He is CNN.
They asked him, he asked him about the, they asked him about, you know, are you gonna, are you gonna, they just CNN, just ask Speaker McCarthy to clarify if he will refuse, refuse to cut a deal with Democrats to save his speakership.
Just ask Speaker McCarthy to clarify if he will refuse to cut a deal with Democrats to save his speakership.
His response, and I quote, I think this is about the institution.
I think it's too important.
He said, end quote.
And Manu Raju says, not answering the question directly.
That's all you need.
That's all you need to know.
Under the Gates motion, Gates motion, under the rules, if he succeeds, a speaker pro tem on McCarthy's choosing will immediately assume the chair and no immediate speaker election is required.
There's a bunch of technical stuff coming out.
We're gonna, um, both the rest of the morning show and then the afternoon, a lot going on.
We'll be up in Getter.
So this thing is, this thing is quickly moving.
It's been quickly moving since I told you when we left here.
I think you're gonna find out who you're governed by.
There's no need to that because you put most of them in office.
We have the majority.
People that voted for the debt ceiling deal the first time, they're Democrats.
In fact, the people that are Republicans that voted for it are radical Democrats.
Now, the 20 that began the process of rehabilitation by voting against this thing the other day, the CR, you've begun the process of rehabilitation.
The rest of the people, Bacon, this crowd, Womack, all those guys, all of McCarthy's clique, And particularly the genius Cosmo man Graves, Garrett Graves, the genius that negotiated the deal, gave the second year away.
Oh, because he's got so much experience.
People say he's got so much experience on the, whatever he did in the, on the, uh, on the British petroleum situation.
That's a joke.
He's a driver.
He's Vitters.
He's a body man.
He's been a body man for guys.
People down in Louisiana should be humiliated that a guy like that represents you.
Uh, people in, um, in, I don't, anyway, you know what Red District again, 202-225-3121 and tell them where you stand on McCarthy.
Cause that one's coming and they're going to have a main and one excuses.
We're relentless.
We're never going to back off.
We're never going to back down.
You see Trump, you see him walking that court.
If Trump had just gone to Mar-a-Lago, remember, remember how dramatic that was when he, when he, when he left and we had Boris out at the airport on the, Coming to High Noon on the 20th of January in 2021.
Remember that?
Those of you who've been with us?
We were live from there.
We were here in the Boroom, but Boris was live from there and gave a report.
I think they were playing the Sinatra song.
unidentified
I think we might have played it over.
steve bannon
Trump had just stayed there, just gone to the beach and built his business and be twice as wealthy.
None of this would have happened.
Why did this happen?
He came back because he understood, as he says, We're losing the country.
Now, it's gone from mannish decline that he was able to reverse for that short period of time, was able to reverse.
Not totally.
That's why I never like to make America great again, again.
No, no.
It's a process to make America great again.
President Trump started it.
He was the hero, stood in the breach and started.
We got a long way to go.
We had a long way to go until they stole the second election.
And now look at this.
It's all one continuous thing.
You've been a part of this.
You're part of history.
You're going down in history.
You're the ultra mega deplorables.
Remember, as much as they hate you, hate Trump, they hate you more, I think.
They actually do hate you more.
You already see how you're mocked and ridiculed up here.
This is why they think they throw you a shiny toy.
I'm going to tell you about another shiny toy.
Just, you know, the guy pulling the fire alarm.
Yeah, yeah.
Go after him.
Do whatever you got to do.
Bad guy.
But don't take up any time.
That's that's a distraction.
That's not the thing itself.
Keep the main thing, the main thing.
The main thing is we're having a war over money and power.
And that the moneyed interest, the vested interest control the country.
And it couldn't be any more obvious than the nose on your face.
If you're prepared to take it, then the country is going to be destroyed because they don't care.
They're grabbing with both hands on the way down.
And only you are staying in the breach.
But the guy like Donald Trump, who they're trying to put away for 700, and they're not happy with that.
They'll indict him on a few more things.
I'm surprised he didn't indict him on Tupac.
They're indicting him on a few more things.
They're liquidating this company.
Even as you speak, he's got a Stalin judge.
It's a bench trial, which I still don't fully understand, but it's a bench trial.
I mean, he's just got the judge, one of these radical judges.
I think she'll just gavel it today and say, take the property.
Let's start selling.
Let's liquidate it.
Let's bankrupt him.
EJ, the way in the fourth installment of the Assassination of American Prosperity, I didn't quite fully understand.
When Nixon did this over the weekend, it's an executive order.
In fact, it was an emergency measure that he signed as an executive order.
It's never been really codified in law, correct?
In the gettings off the convertibility into gold?
ej antoni
That's right, Steve.
It's exactly right.
And this is really just a continuation of what FDR did.
In fact, in some ways you could say it's not just a continuation but a fulfillment of what FDR started, which was to devalue the dollar relative to gold.
And so Nixon allowed for an ultimate devaluation all the way down to zero by completely cutting the dollar's link to gold.
And the result of that was it gave the Federal Reserve a green light to inflate as much as needed to finance all the deficits that Congress could possibly pass.
steve bannon
So are you saying, and I'm not saying we're going to do this, but are you saying, as we reversed all the Obama executive orders, that President Trump could, as his first act, after high noon, after his hand comes off the Bible, besides shutting down the border and going after the deep state, we could actually take away the emergency measures that stop the convertibility of the U.S.
currency into gold?
That could be done with a stroke of a pen.
ej antoni
Right, exactly.
What you do with an executive order, you can undo with another executive order.
Now the only caveat here is that because we have devalued the dollar so much, it would essentially be impossible to return to the previous ratio of $35 an ounce, and so you'd probably need something more like $2,000.
But what you would do is effectively straitjacket the Federal Reserve and the banking system at large in their ability to devalue the currency and to levy the hidden tax of inflation on the American people.
steve bannon
That would also straitjacket, correct me if I'm wrong, because the reason Nixon did this, he wanted to have guns and butter, continue on what Lyndon Johnson gave us, you would also straitjacket This collection of folks here in Capitol Hill.
Here's what we've had.
We've had fiscal...
We've had fiscal irresponsibility.
Every nation, and particularly in the Western Europe and the United States, have had fiscal irresponsibility supported by central banks that continue to bail them out.
That's basically the system we have today, right?
This fiscal irresponsibility, these massive deficits bailed out by the central banks.
That would actually break that system, would it not?
It would begin the process to break that system?
ej antoni
Right, and Steve, this is why the Founding Fathers, after the failures from the Articles of Confederation, this is why the Founding Fathers insisted on not having a central bank in the United States Constitution and having gold convertibility of the currency because it deprived these quasi-public-private institutions from the ability to tax people through inflation in order to get the value needed to give to the
politicians to spend.
We've had actually three different central banks before the Federal Reserve and the United States ended each of them.
This idea that the Federal Reserve is somehow permanent and it can never be undone, that's an absolute hogwash.
We've already killed the first three central banks.
There's no reason why we can't consign the fourth to the ash heap of history.
steve bannon
Yeah.
And the Fed.
Andrew Jackson's great fight against the Bank of the United States.
E.J., I've got to bounce.
We're just giving people a taste of where we're heading here.
Just a taste, a little appetizer.
E.J., where do they go?
Where's your social media, particularly your Twitter account?
ej antoni
Yeah, best place to find me is going to be on Twitter or X or whatever we're calling it these days.
It's at real E.J.
Antoni.
steve bannon
E.J., thank you very much.
Honored to have you on here.
ej antoni
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Now, look at this headline.
Of everything that's going on, burying the country, all the debt, the headlines, the financial ties.
Biden seeks to reassure Ukraine after U.S.
Congress ditches war aid.
We know McCarthy got it.
Look at the headline in the Financial Times of London.
This is what the party of Davos, this is what the globalists, if everything's going on, all the problems are, invasion of the southern border, record numbers.
The biggest headline in the Financial Times of London is to make sure that Zelensky and the corrupt oligarchs understand that more money's coming so they can skim it off the top and kick back.
The kickbacks here have got to be enormous, right?
It's a money laundering operation.
The whole Ukraine situation, the reason they won't come about any plan for victory, the reason the Republicans won't call them down here for the War Powers Act, it's a money laundering operation.
Money laundering.
unidentified
And that's what we've begun to stop and they hate it.
steve bannon
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Just remember where these rates are.
Nobody's taking out mortgages.
Nobody's taking out second.
There's $6 trillion north of equity in the homes.
And the cyber criminals, now with artificial intelligence, their big target is to figure out how to get To the equity in people's homes.
Remember, it's like the old guy, where you go, why do you rob banks?
Because that's where the money is.
90% of the net worth of the American people are tied up in their home, in the home equity.
That's, they're trying to figure out every day how they get there.
These people are smart, and the technology available today makes it that they have more access than ever.
So just go to HomeTitleLock.com.
They have all the information.
Check it out there.
Make your decision of whether this is right for you.
If you need to, ask one of the experts.
Let's go back to the border.
Ben, you know, the Republicans go, well, we passed this thing on H.R.
unidentified
2.
steve bannon
Hey, H.R.
2 is lovely.
Of course, you took out E-Verify, which is kind of the heart of it, to stop the Chamber of Commerce from hiring the illegal aliens and giving them jobs.
So they gutted that, but they're talking about we don't need more laws.
There's some lovely stuff in H.R.
2, and we're a big supporter of it, but in this interim period, nothing's going to happen.
It's not going to add anything.
They're not enforcing the laws we have.
Are the cartels with the globalists and the NGOs and McCarthy and all the Republican vested interests, are they just laughing at us as this invasion goes on unabated, sir?
ben bergquam
Yeah, Steve, and I think one of the most important things, as you mentioned, top three month in history, over 260,000.
I think it'll be closer to 270,000 illegals came across with unknown numbers of gotaways.
This is the destruction of America.
And again, we're heading into phase two.
It's only going to get worse.
Cartel owns Mexico, and I think the cartel owns much of American politicians as well.
One of the things, as you mentioned, several things President Trump needs to do as soon as he gets into office, one of those is turn the Department of Justice into investigations on politicians in Washington DC that are bought off by the cartels. There's no question about it. They're laughing at you.
Congress could stop funding the United Nations. They could stop funding all of these NGOs. That would stop this suicide.
National suicide of America.
They have no intention of doing that because, as you mentioned, even the Republicans are bought off by the Chambers of Commerce.
The Democrats are bought off by the cartels.
It's just, you know, it's national suicide, what we're living through right now.
steve bannon
I mean, Ben, and you guys have done the reporting all the way up from the Darien Gap, and you kept telling people, you had you there in July and August, you were down there, you said this is coming.
The third, I think, 219,000, that's just the ones we know about.
This is the third biggest month with all the reporting, all the focus on this, you know, the House doing HR, you know, HR 2, all this.
The second, the third biggest month in history.
And this is unabated.
It's gonna be, you know, you're gonna have, you got three million this year alone.
Three million.
That's bigger than how many states.
ben bergquam
Yeah.
steve bannon
Individual states.
And it's only gonna get worse.
Ben Burquham.
ben bergquam
Yeah, it's only going to get worse.
And again, you said 219.
The numbers we're getting from Border Patrol are closer to 260 to 270 when we get the finals.
And the reality is they have no idea.
Those are the ones that are turning themselves in, that we're inviting in, that are actually walking across the bridge as we speak right now through the CBP One app.
All of these people with the unknown numbers because the border is wide open.
We have zero operational control of many sectors of the border because of Secretary Marcus, because of Joe Biden, because of The cartel congresswoman, Veronica Escobar, here in El Paso, Texas.
All of that.
It's only going to get worse.
And the reality is, the reason it is, is because this is a new industry.
It's the illegal immigration industry, and it's global.
It's not just America.
You've seen the same thing in Europe.
It all ties back to the World Economic Forum.
It all ties back to what we showed when we were down there back in April with the United Nations taking over army bases in Panama.
All of this, it's all connected.
It's all connected and it's all about the destruction of the West and we the people in particular in the United States of America and patriots like President Trump and Mike Lindell.
By the way, you had him on.
I always have my pillow with me no matter where I go.
But it's because, not just because of the quality of the product, it's because the guy fights for this country just like President Trump does.
steve bannon
By the way, that's promo code War Room before Ben steps in the middle of that.
Ben, no, Ben, we're going to get you, if we can, get you back on the afternoon show.
This is, look, it's the invasion of the southern border.
That's why it's all, this is why they got to get rid of Trump.
They realized Trump was the first guy that said this has got to stop.
Not that we got to process him better.
It's got to stop.
That's why they know he empowers this audience and this audience empowers him.
ben bergquam
That's right.
steve bannon
They have to take him out.
ben bergquam
That's exactly right.
steve bannon
That's why he's in a courtroom in New York today to have his entire New York business empire liquidated.
And Steve!
ben bergquam
And that's when we have traitors.
These aren't just people that are making bad decisions.
These are traitors to the American people.
They are traitors to their oath to the Constitution and the citizens of this country.
That's what we're dealing with right now.
steve bannon
Ben, we're having you back on the afternoon show.
What's your social media right now?
ben bergquam
At Ben Burquam on all social media.
Wait till you see the footage.
I haven't even posted it yet.
At Ben Burquam and FrontlineAmerica.com and of course AmericasVoice.news.
Our next episode of Law & Border will be coming out probably next Saturday.
We're working on that.
We've got several others in the pipeline, so stay tuned.
But check out the social media.
The stuff we're going to be posting is crazy.
steve bannon
Ben, fantastic, looking forward to seeing you this afternoon.
OK, I want to make an announcement we can now say, which we couldn't say before because it's breaking.
I think Melanie Zanona, I think she's over at CNN, is breaking that Matt Gaetz will go to the floor at noon to give a, to give a, he will speak on the floor at noon.
Is anticipated that he might drop the motion to vacate for the Speaker's Chair at that time.
We will, we're going off at noon.
Charlie Kirk picks up, but we're going to stream for everybody in Rumble and Getter.
We're going to be streaming.
I think we're starting Getter and get to Rumble right away.
It'll be your Getter for now, also on Rumble.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
So Getter and Rumble, it'll be on mine.
Maybe we'll be able to get it up on the War Room.
Make sure everybody's checking in with Captain Bannon.
And Grace, because I think the trains may be leaving the station.
If not, it'll be at least framing this, because this is going to be quite a fight.
And make sure that you're involved in this.
You got us as far as we've gotten so far.
Right now we should, right now the government should be, we should have de-financed Leviathan at midnight and they should be in these hearings right now.
They should have worked all weekend on the appropriations and forced the Senate to pass them.
Senate hasn't even, Senate's not even back till Tuesday afternoon.
They haven't passed one appropriations bill and they're not going to.
They're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna slow walk this entire thing.
They don't want to go through that process.
Of having their votes.
And you saw there were some surprises.
I thought in the Senate, only seven or only eight or nine people voted against it.
Look at all the people.
Is your senator one of the people who voted for this fiasco?
Just like back with the debt ceiling.
unidentified
They bought the hype.
steve bannon
I want to make sure...
Can we play a trailer?
Let's do it.
We're going to introduce a filmmaker, something you've got to see.
Let's go ahead and play it.
We've got, right now we've got time.
Let's go ahead and play this.
I want you to play this trailer.
We'll introduce you to the filmmaker here in a moment.
unidentified
If you know yourself, but not the enemy, for every victory gained, you will suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
I jumped out of the darkness, rose into the light.
You need to understand you're being manipulated.
And if you don't understand how you're being manipulated, you're never going to be able to fight it.
and you.
steve bannon
you Okay, Mike Smith joins us.
Mike, you made a film before this.
I want to talk about that and why you ended up making Into the Light.
And you're going to bring the receipts here.
This is just not some crazy conspiracy theory, bunch of guys running around.
You actually bring the receipts in this film?
unidentified
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
steve bannon
Excuse me?
unidentified
Yeah, let's reboot him.
steve bannon
Okay, we're gonna reboot Mike right now.
We just lost him.
Gosh, after that dramatic, uh, after that dramatic, uh, that very dramatic trailer.
We'll get Mike Smith back up.
This is a film you guys have to see into the light.
We're going to play it again, and we'll make sure everybody gets to see this, gets access to it.
Okay, what we do know right now is that Matt Gaetz is going to go down.
He's scheduled, and it's not easy to get these speaking slots, so he's scheduled right now to go down to the floor and report the news again.
Representative Matt Gaetz will speak on the floor at noon, CNN has told.
That is where he could make a motion to vacate the speaker's chair.
I think it's most important this afternoon, by the way, Victoria Spartz, and she's been kind of a warrior here recently, but she's taken the bait on this National Debt Commission.
On this National Commission for Debt.
We don't need a National Commission.
We've had too many commissions.
We can go back to the previous commissions and just implement.
The last thing we need here is a National Commission.
That's just to buy time.
So Victoria Sparks, just, you know, throw in here and let's change the speaker out.
Let's get some MAGA leaders in there.
Let's be able to fight and let's be able to stand up.
So today, I think the train's leaving the station.
Here's what you need to do.
Number one, 202-225-3121.
Make sure you do a full accounting of what happened on Saturday.
If you weren't here for the Saturday shows, you didn't get up on Getter.
And join us for all of this on Saturday.
Make sure you find out where your representative voted.
If it's not one of the 92 that voted against this fiasco, this debacle on Saturday, make sure you tell them why.
Particularly if you're in a MAGA district, particularly if you're in these red districts, in these MAGA states, states like Florida, states like Arkansas, states like Texas.
Places like Idaho, Montana, across the board, North Dakota, South Dakota.
Find out why they are voting against your interests.
Ask them just a basic question.
In particular, people who voted for the debt ceiling.
Tell me this is not a solution.
If you voted for McCarthy's debt, if you backed him on his debt play, you're part of the problem.
You're not part of the solution.
And this is not even a hard one.
You gave the apparatus $15 trillion to spend over the next two years and you allowed them to have uncapped, uncapped on the deficit.
And as we've told you on the show, it's going to be $2 trillion per year.
Don't let them lie to you.
$2 trillion.
The whole thing they talked about, oh, we're, we're, we're, we're taking a trillion and a half over 10 years.
That's all a lie.
That's all pushing the out years.
It's all ephemeral.
It'll never happen.
Of course it'll never happen.
This is how they've done it before.
You can't let them treat you like morons.
And now's your time to stand and deliver.
And they hate what's going on.
They're forcing their hand.
McCarthy won't even say... To save McCarthy, the Democrats will take a pound of flesh.
They will take a pound of flesh.
They got what they want and everything is big.
We had him on the debt ceiling.
We had it.
It was leverage.
Nope, nobody's going to default.
Interest rates weren't going to change, we're going to pay it off, and you're going to have a conversation about massive cuts that had to come.
They betrayed you.
Remember, McCarthy and Graves and McHenry walked into the White House, and the CBO director, the budget director, the OMB director, excuse me, the OMB director said that they offered, those three got, they offered the second year.
They offered the second year.
They are a liar.
They are a lie to your face.
McCarthy's big thing, oh, Ukraine's out because I'm more concerned about the Southern border.
That's a lie.
Look at the headline in the Financial Times of London.
and look at Biden sitting there going, Biden saying, Biden saying that he gave me a guarantee.
McCarthy's given me a guaranteed we're gonna get the Ukraine part done.
Six billion dollars.
They gotta do 80 this year.
80 billion.
They need to get to that 24, but they're gonna do this six.
At least a quick six.
Everything is a lie.
All they do is lie to you.
And have you underwrite it.
Are you tired of underwriting it?
Do you want them to pay attention to you?
Well, now's the defining moment.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Attorney General Garland leads 115,000 employees, prosecutors, agents of the FBI, and other federal law enforcement.
Additional security is now assigned to protect judges and prosecutors after the Trump cases drew death threats.
Political violence is among Garland's gravest concerns.
People can argue with each other as much as they want and as Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it.
as they want. But the one thing they may not do is use violence and threats of violence to alter the outcome. And the important aspect of this is the American people themselves. The American people must protect each other.
As you come back to the hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it.
steve bannon
He's he's chaining.
He's chaining, uh, Peter Navarro like a dog. His FBI, they're going to kicking down the doors of these people that are praying the rosary.
Don't say he's going to cry again?
Is this what he's going to... Is the clip going to... Is he going to cry again?
Is he going to cry again?
Is that what I'm going to sit here for?
Your violence, dude, is driving this.
Your violence.
How can these guys, these people, the hobbits that have no money, have a bunch of kids you go to their house with your up-armored FBI?
And arrest him and chain what he's what a house say he was chained like a dog for six hours to a table.
You're the one that's violent.
You're the one just threatening violence.
You're the one bringing violence.
Don't sit there on 60 minutes.
Give me the big crocodile tears.
Your day's coming dude after January of 2025.
When we go back over this whole illegitimate regime and we get into the receipts.
And we start drilling down here on what you guys actually did and what you had plotted to do that we stopped.
Remember now, whistleblowers coming forward, we stopped.
You were going after the Latin mass speaking, there's not a group that's got less cash than that group, less net worth.
That's the absolute, that's the absolute, absolute, absolute hobbits.
Absolute hobbits.
And you're threatening violence all the time.
You're trying to show force all the time.
And you sit there and perjure yourself.
How can you even, you're going to, is this, am I going to go in 60 minutes?
And when I play this clip later, I'm gonna get big crocodile tears from him.
Like he gave crocodile tears at the beginning of his testimony.
Gave crocodile tears.
And then goes out and does nothing but arrest.
The biggest FBI thing they've ever had.
Have they got something on the Southern border?
We've had an invasion here with, I don't know, 6, 8, 10, 3 million this year.
6, 8, 10 million invaders, Visigoths, that are here.
Has he got the biggest, largest investigation going on the southern border with the cartels?
Does Merrick Garland do that?
Is he down enforcing the asylum laws in this nation?
No.
He's doing the exact opposite.
He should be in prison for the rest of his life.
And my God, if we do our job after we win, he will be in prison for the rest of his life.
He's exacerbated, he's constructed and exacerbated, with many of them, the invasion of your country.
I don't care about the eastern border of Ukraine.
I don't care.
What I do care about is I'm not sending any more money over there, and what I care about is getting prosecutions of everybody that stole the money that American taxpayers sent, and then get as much money back.
And send it places, maybe, I don't know, maybe like St.
Louis, Detroit, you know, Omaha, anywhere.
Sprinkle it around the country.
Let the American citizens, if you're gonna, if you're gonna, if you're gonna spend it, let's spend it on Americans.
In America.
The United States of America.
The biggest investigation he's got is a bunch of grandmothers that are walking through the Capitol.
Biggest investigation, they're still arresting people.
Arrested, what, 25 people last week or the week before?
In September?
And he's going to sit there and cry again?
Are you going to cry?
Will you man up?
You're so weak and disgusting just as a human being.
A little weak, you know.
Looks like that little hunchback in the Spartans, remember?
Looks like that guy.
There, looking at you weird, crying all the time.
Man up!
If you're going to go after the American people, if you're going to allow some... Stand up!
Be proud of it!
Step into the decision!
Don't get all weasley on me.
Don't come before Congress and cry again.
We don't care.
We're not interested in your tears.
We're interested in our country.
And we're interested in what you and your gang of thugs are doing to this country.
And did you see McCarthy and his guys standing up to that?
You think they're going to stand up to that?
Is Glenn Young going to stand up to that?
That's what you're going to do?
unidentified
No.
steve bannon
You're going to get more of the same.
You're going to get your country in the same place.
Because it's not parents' rights.
Parents matter.
How weaselly can you get?
They're sitting in the couch, you know, parents' rights is too, that's too Trumpian.
That's too, you know, that's too forceful.
Let's do parents matter.
Want to make sure that you are prepared.
Number one, go to Jace Medical.
Jace Medical right now with the CCP, a bunch of articles on the weekend.
I'll get into those hopefully this afternoon.
She's hit a bad patch.
Evergrande, the chairman there is in jail or he's been, he's been rounded up.
Largest real estate property.
You don't think they're gonna shut us down?
drives our economy, 25% of it, that's in free fall.
Once that goes, the banks go with it.
You don't think they're going to use every time they're working up the young people over there about Taiwan, ultra-nationalism.
You don't think they're going to shut us down.
You're seeing shortages all over the medical anyway.
But you don't think they're going to shut us down because they control 100% of active pharmaceutical ingredients that go into all the generic drugs?
These are smart people.
Our enemies are smart people.
Make sure you go to JaceMedical.com today and just get the information.
Figure out your situation with your medicines and the basics.
See if Jace Medical can be part of the solution.
Okay, we got a lot going on today.
I think Brother Gates is going to address The House, he's got time.
Word is he's going to go in and get one of those noon spots.
So we are going to, I think, be in a throwdown.
If not, he's going to frame what the throwdown is going to be.
The Democrats control it all with the collaborationist Republicans in the Uniparty.
If you want to fight that, sign up.
We've got a couple of three slots open in the Fight Club.
We can take you.
Remember, this is why we started the show.
This is why President Trump's in the state court in New York City.
They're trying to bankrupt him.
Trying to liquidate it all.
Another opportunity cost that he has to defend.
He has to go through this whole thing, take the day off.
He can't be out campaigning.
You don't think this is election interference?
Sam Bankman-Friedman, he's in trial today and they're saying all that cash came through D.C.
He's talking about trying to pay Trump.
They want to pay Trump not to run.
Okay, Billy Joe Shaver is going to take us out.
We're going to be back 5 to 7 tonight.
We'll be right up on Getter.
And I'll be in the chat.
We'll be talking to you folks.
Pay attention to Gates.
Stay tuned.
See you back here at 5.
Charlie Kirk next.
Poso after that.
Here's how we're going to end you.
Here's how much money we want to shovel to the oligarchs in Ukraine.
How about nothing?
Give us our money back.
Billy Joe Shaver, take you out.
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