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Aug. 22, 2023 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 2973: The Rise Of Central Bank Digital Currency

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joe allen

11:41

natalie winters

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steve bannon

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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Pray for our enemies.
unidentified		Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I got a free shot all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
		India has taken a massive leap towards financial inclusion.
		The maximum benefit of this has reached our women in rural India.
		Today, with one click, millions of people in India get direct benefit transfers.
		So far, more than $360 billion of such transfers have been made.
		This has increased transparency in service delivery and reduced corruption and middlemen.
		India has the cheapest per gigabyte cost.
		Today, in India, from street vendors to large shopping malls, all use UPI, that is, the Unified Payments Interface.
		Today, India is the country with the highest number of digital transactions in the world.
		Countries like UAE, Singapore and France are also joining this platform.
		There are several possibilities of working on this with BRICS countries also.
		The large-scale investment being done on infrastructure... Let me have it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, it is Tuesday, 22 August, the Year of the Lord 2023.
		The future is staring you in the face right now.
		It's in Durban, South Africa.
		It's the movement in the meetings that the mainstream media does not want to cover.
		Because it stands as a total rejection to how the elitist, how the Uniparty, the oligarchs on Wall Street and in Silicon Valley have tried to run things.
		They've tried to crush MAGA.
		They've tried to crush working class people in this country.
		And the Third World Movement, the Global South Movement, considering the BRICS, are not going to put up with it.
		And remember, There are many more of our enemies of the Judeo-Christian West, and particularly the United States, in that crowd than there are allies.
		But even the allies are a little shaky.
		And right now, if you think about it, this is the shape.
		This is what your betters have done.
		You're better.
		The Council on Foreign Relations and the Tufts School of Law and Diplomacy and Harvard and Yale and all those guys, State Department, all of them, you know, the cocktail parties in the Hamptons in the Upper East Side where they're mocking and ridiculing you because they know how to run the world.
		All the hedge fund guys, Ackman, all of them.
		The only way out of this situation now, because they're thinking about, you know, alternative currencies, get post Bretton Woods, all of it.
		Remember, if India is to align with China, if they start to really form an alliance and they're mortal enemies, but if they do, then it could be game over.
		Think about it for a second.
		The United States of America is totally and completely dependent on which way India is going to go.
		And I think the world of Modi is one of the great nationalists.
		But should we ever be in a situation?
		Who put us in this situation?
		That our entire strategy in the Pacific, about the Eurasian landmass, and now on world economics and finance, the linchpin's India.
		If India announces some big deal with Xi, if Modi's rubbing up on Xi and hugging on Xi and, yeah, we're going to do something, world markets are going to react.
		But that's the jam.
		You should never put yourself into a situation where you're jammed up like that.
		That's what the regime in the United States has done.
		That's the Primrose Path they led you down to.
		In the second hour, we're going to get into it with Dr. Bradley Thayer and Ben Harnwell, who's going to join me from Rome, about how they've led the Ukrainian people down the Primrose Path, and now you're seeing all the reporting from, as Ben Harnwell calls it, the Langley Bugle, heretofore referred to as the Washington Post.
		They're leaking like crazy about the meetings, and everybody's upset, and there's finger-pointing, and gosh, how did this happen, and how did Zelensky let us down?
		It's all coming home to Roosh right there.
		And I'm going to connect.
		And this is why I get paid the big bucks.
		Modi's speech there about the universal processing payment system.
		This is not just about the Federal Reserve and the dollar.
		It's not just about the SWIFT system, which is about the international transfers.
		This is now about the digitalization.
		And guess what?
		One of the things they're talking about is the central bank digital currency.
		So Modi's sitting there, you're seeing the future, because the global south is 80% of the people.
		When you consider this BRICS, they got 60 nations showed up, used to be five, got 60 showed up, they all want in.
		And just wait till the Saudis ask for membership.
		And you are good buddies of the UAE, Mohammed bin Zayed.
		Mohammed bin Zayed is probably the best ally we've got in the Gulf Emirates, in the Middle East, except for maybe Israel.
		And he just crossed a trade with Modi on the eve of this.
		A million barrels of oil in rupees.
		He took rupees.
		Let me repeat that.
		He took rupees.
		Not petrodollars.
		We're in dangerous times.
		The elites in this country, if you're going to be a rent seeker, if you're going to be something like this, you have to be, you have to have something that value that you're adding.
		Where's the value?
		Where's the beef?
		Help me out here.
		What have you done for folks?
		If you're going to be elites and take 90% of the assets and be billionaires and just jet around and play footsie with their enemies, you should be delivering some value.
		Where's the value?
		Now we're jammed up on every front and they won't cover it.
		They know this thing to the regime, to the oligarchs, to CNBC and to MSNBC and the CNN is so humiliating.
		You don't see this playing wall-to-wall, which this is the most important thing.
		This is far more important than the Keebler elves tomorrow night.
		The Keebler elves are just one thing.
		That's just Murdoch's.
	That's just more non-Americans, right?
	That's just their play to thwart the populist movement of Trump.
	So it's non-stop, constantly, you know, and the thing is, is he going to say this?
	Who cares?
	Please stop.
	That's all the Murdoch's play.
	It's irrelevant.
	Except for the fact it's the blunt Trump.
	That's why we're not going to give it any oxygen.
	If you watch or your friends watch Fox tomorrow night, you're part of the problem.
	You've got to cut the Murdoch's only respond to a fist in the mouth.
	You have to give it to them.
	Financially, that's all they understand.
	The only way to do it is click it off.
	If you keep it on, their lesson is, okay, we can roll Trump.
	Think what's going to happen in the next couple of days here.
	The trap set in Milwaukee where they won't even allow in the Trump surrogates to the fourth indictment, the fourth indictment now in Georgia.
	Trump's up to, what, 90 and 700 years?
	Let's go 100.
	I bid 100 and 1,000.
	Let's just do that.
	Let's round up.
	Let's just round up.
	Every aspect of it.
	The reason is to come after you.
	Want to go to Joe Allen.
	Joe, I want to talk about this Politico story because you're seeing and you're seeing this one of the big just like in Davos is the second big kind of joint meeting you've had in the side breakouts.
	are all about artificial intelligence and how that can drive the global south to fight the G7 and particularly the oligarchs in the United States.
	Walk me through, there's an argument out there now that the artificial intelligence is so out of control, the horse is out of the barn, between the weapons labs and particularly Silicon Valley, you got a trillion dollars of capital pouring in here now.
	Every guy that walks around says AI is going to get funded from a VC.
	That they're making an argument that we've got to nationalize this.
	This is national defense, national security, and you've got to nationalize it right away.
	Walk me through the bid and the ask on the situation with artificial intelligence.
joe allen ▲ ● ▼		Well, Steve, I would say that the most coherent argument put forward for it just came out in Politico.
		That's Charles Jennings.
		Jennings worked on AI vision systems, and he notes in the article that one of the things that his company discovered, and pretty much any AI company with advanced AI, is faced with is that it's inherently unknowable.
		The process by which the AI comes to the conclusions it does is just simply not knowable.
		There are too many working parts and attempts to audit it so far have failed.
		The black box problem is what it's known as.
		And, you know, people like Sundar Pinchai say, oh, well, you can't understand fully what's going on inside of a human brain, so it's the same thing.
		Well, what we're talking about, though, is artificial minds being disseminated everywhere.
		So Jennings points to that as a major problem when you're trying to predict what an AI will do, which brings to the second problem.
unidentified		But hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let's not bounce off the first.
		On the first, he uses an illustration.
		When they were originally doing AI, and they had, I don't know, tens of thousands of photos to do photo recognition.
		And he has, I think the guy he was working with has a child that has Down syndrome, and so there's no direct linkage to what the father looked like.
		And yet, they're sitting there one night, and the AI, the machines are working, and they directly compare the father to the child.
		And it's so shocking because it had, you know, billions of permutations.
		And they picked it out and the guy goes, how did that happen?
		Asked actually one of the programmers, how did that possibly happen?
		There's no direct anywhere that you could see on a facial recognition that could possibly happen.
		And the guy goes, well, that happens a lot, we don't really know.
		This is the scary thing.
		The people that actually are the inventors here, they had this thing in 60 Minutes, brought it out.
		The machine itself sometimes starts thinking or starts doing things, and the creators, not the users, the creators sit there and go, yeah, I don't really know.
		I would strongly recommend that's not a, that's not an appropriate response when you're talking about what these machines can do at this scale.
		Isn't that the problem that the people in back of it itself will oftentimes say, I don't really know how they did that.
		I can't, that's not really could be computational.
		I don't know how that happened.
		Joe Allen.
joe allen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, any of the really advanced systems, something like GPT for instance, there's different ways to count it, 280 billion parameters going eight ways, so it's like eight different brains working all at once.
		They have no way to know why it writes a bad poem, why it accurately describes the Say, the Civil War in the United States, they have no way to know it.
		There's just too much going on inside of it.
		People propose, well, maybe we'll make an AI to understand the AI.
		That's yet to materialize.
		But it really, at the core of that, Steve, is that if you don't know how it works, you don't necessarily know what it's going to do.
		It's very, the more advanced systems are very unpredictable.
		You know, something we've tried to drive home, people think of AI as just simply being programmed.
		They think of it In terms of a linear sequence, an algorithm that can be easily audited, a really good AI system, kind of the place where it goes from algorithm to AI, part of that is the indeterminacy of the system.
		You don't really know what the output is going to be, and you can run the same program again and again, train on the same datasets, And the same program will come out with different answers.
		It is, in that sense, much like a human brain.
		And as these technologies advance, especially the wide array of technologies, they're seeping into public life, economic life, educational systems, finance, and of course the military.
		In a quick moment, if we could just give the audience a quick glance at this chart, It was put out, this study is the second chart, Denver.
		This study was assembled by Contextual AI.
		They're an AI company.
		And you can see here the various lines kind of converging on superhuman or at least human level abilities.
		So on the far left of the graph, it begins in 1998.
		That's really where a lot of this started amping up.
		Then on the far right, You see 2022 at the bottom is just, you know, really stupid.
		Then at the top is 100% human performance level.
		So you can see it begins really with the studies on handwriting recognition, speech recognition, and then moves very rapidly.
		You can see kind of the takeoff of programs like GPT and others where you get rapid image recognition, language recognition, reading comprehension.
		There's one in there about common sense.
		I would definitely argue that that's not accurate.
		And then at the very end, you see code generation, AI.
		Joe, just hang here for one second.
		Now, you could quibble with these numbers, it is somewhat subjective, but without a doubt, these systems, they basically replicate human cognitive modules and they are becoming, in some cases, undeniably superhuman.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Joe, yeah, Joe, just hang here for one second.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to return with the nationalization of artificial intelligence next in the War Room.
unidentified		We will fight till they're all gone.
		We rejoice when there is no more.
		Let's take down the...
		War Room.
		Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, this topic, I want to give people, we want to get this on your radar early.
		As we told you over a year ago that the singularity, transhumanism and artificial intelligence are going to be a major part of the 2024 campaign.
		And it's not what they're saying, oh, they're going to have deep fakes and all this stuff.
		No, that's going to be a tiny part of it.
		Just like the education, what's happening at Chad GPT is a tiny part of a cultural and societal revolution that's going on as they move to enhance Homo sapien 2.0 or Homo sapien 1.25.
		Okay.
		This is going to be the biggest, most profound and most difficult to deal with topic of the age.
		And nationalization is dawn to be untameable.
		And people say, Steve, the administrative state and the deep state controls the apparatus now.
		How are you going to let them nationalize this?
		Well, that's why we've got to take over the first order of business.
		We must win at the polls, and then we've got to hammer and deconstruct the administrative state and completely destroy the deep state.
		Because right now, I'll let Joe continue this argument in Politico, and I want to get it up if Captain Bannon and Grace can put it up.
		So I want everybody to read this article, and everybody's not going to agree with this thing.
		But my point is, is that there's so much going on in all these other aspects, and we have no earthy idea what's going on.
		And when these things, when these bombs drop, They're going to be too difficult to deal with as they come.
		Joe Allen, press on, brother.
joe allen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Steve, at the heart of this is the awareness that these technologies are ramping up.
		You don't have to believe in the sort of fairytale-ish, you know, superhuman Terminator AI or something like the movie Her, where you have an intelligence system that's benevolent.
		You just have to understand that much like cognitive scientists over the last century have identified the different sort of cognitive modules that make up the human brain's behavior, language recognition, visual recognition, they now have software that is capable of replicating that and it's in some instances at superhuman levels.
		If Denver would throw up that number two one more time and just look at it really closely, The really important element here is that these systems have basically reached human parity.
		And when you talk about, say, speech recognition, you can see that really taking off 2011, 2012.
		That's used oftentimes for surveillance.
		That's used for if you're interacting with a bot on the phone.
		It's the ability to simply understand what you're saying, flag you as a domestic terrorist, or flag you as a discontent customer.
		Then you have image recognition, I think a really good example that would probably hit home with the audience.
		Clearview AI scrapes over some billion-odd photographs and is able to identify a human face, oftentimes from a pretty poor image quality, from an endless number of images.
		Well, Clearview AI, of course, was employed by law enforcement in the aftermath of the J6 protests and was used to track down J6 protesters.
		That's just one of many, many instances in which the security apparatus is using AI to basically pick out faces that no human being would be able to locate.
		Language understanding, language comprehension, that really is kind of a subjective thing, but without a doubt, just as the tests stand now, when GPT-4 aced the GRE verbal, it really was a milestone for these systems.
		You could say, oh, well, the tests are dumbed down.
		It really doesn't matter.
		These are the tests that are being employed That's how students are being selected.
		Under the system that we live right now, these machines are becoming more and more, for lack of a better words, competent.
		When Charles Jennings is arguing for the nationalization of AI, what he's saying is you have these extremely powerful technologies that by and large are either in the control of corporations, and that would be Google, Microsoft, Tesla, Twitter, and the oligarchs are pretty much only accountable to their shareholders and their customers to the extent that their customers can even get away from them.
		Then you have the option of, he points out the kind of Chinese model in which the communist state pretty much has complete control over the corporations producing these things.
		And he argues that you don't want America to fall into anything quite like that.
		And you definitely don't want the American government to shut down big tech here and then allow China to rocket forward with all of this.
		Then you end up with a planet dominated by a kind of a cyborg CCP.
		That's his argument, my words.
		And so the option he puts forward is something like the Atomic Energy Commission, instituted by Truman, and it's a civilian-led commission, and for AI, it would be basically the model that he's going with, what he calls the Humane AI Commission, would be citizen-led, and in theory, be accountable to the public.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Watch Oppenheimer, you'll see how that turned out.
		No, it's an alternative.
		We need everybody in this vanguard, in this cadre, to fully understand what's going on here.
		And that's why Dark Aeon This book, and it is a tour de force, Joe, you've done a magnificent job, and our partners at Skyhorse, that this is War Room Press, have put together, it is a, just the book itself is magnificent the way it's put together.
		But the writing and the book, the content of the book is absolutely incredible.
		Everybody needs to be up to speed on this.
		They talk about replacement theory.
		This is not a replacement of any ethnicity, of any racial group.
		They talk about the invasion of the southern border.
		Hey, replacement theory is the replacement of homo sapiens, of man, with something that's homo sapien plus, right?
		And that is not going to be a good thing.
		They're not out.
		You said that the oligarchs are beholden to their shareholders and their customers.
		I would say their shareholders are totally giving them a blank check.
		Do what you got to do.
		Do what you want to do.
		And the customers kind of just underwrite their efforts.
		Right now it's being underwritten by the taxpayers, the people in this room.
		Joe, go to Amazon right now because we want this book to be high on the New York Times bestseller list.
		You saw with the Tucker book they screwed.
		They're going to try to screw Joe Allen too, but we've got to put forward the old college try.
		Dark Aeon.
		It's magnificent.
		Joe, give us a minute on this book, why people should read it.
joe allen ▲ ● ▼		The three elements that are relevant to this and all the technologies we've been talking about for two and a half years.
		First, you're talking about the technologies themselves.
		How far have they actually advanced?
		How far can you expect them to advance from there?
		Second question being much more difficult to answer.
		But without a doubt, the readers will have a very clear sense, especially about where AI is, how AI works, and how genetic engineering and even sort of eugenic processes are being used right now.
		The other element, though, is the belief system underpinning all of this, the futurist belief system, which really does, in a superficial way, it takes on these religious qualities, religious prophecy.
		And in many cases, these guys are actually, you know, speaking of these technologies and their future, in religious terms, in terms of human salvation or human damnation, human destruction.
		Really, really important to understand where these technologies go as they advance to see the belief system that the technologies are being attached to.
		The last element really is just how do you approach this?
		What do you do in the face of what is ultimately a sort of psychotic behavior on the part of our elites?
		And then a psychosis, a mass social psychosis, mass formation psychosis, perhaps you could say as a hat tip.
		But as you see both the elites and the populace really being kind of taken over by a mind virus, we'll call it here transhumanism, how do you approach the world and survive it?
		So, you know, like you say, I'm quite skeptical of the idea of nationalizing it.
		I'm skeptical of it being in the hands of big tech.
		I mean, I'm skeptical, certainly, of it being in the hands directly of our government.
		So if there aren't any solutions like that to present, then I really think the best thing is to understand the map and be able to go into this wilderness armed and ready to fight.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		By the way, we have to be armed.
		You have to be ready.
		You have to understand this.
		And this book is a start.
		You said there's sometimes transhumanism in the war against humanity.
		Give me a moment.
		What do you mean the war against humanity from the transhumanists?
		What do you mean by that?
joe allen ▲ ● ▼		Well, so in some instances, we're talking about an actual creation of technologies which are believed to be a threat to the human race, to our existence.
		I mean, there are many camps in which they admit that they believe that the AI and all of the other infrastructure the AI could control will actually go on to kill human beings, some portion of us, or all of us.
		You know, the most interesting figure we've covered before, and I focus on quite a bit, is Hugo de Guerras.
		He himself programmed artificial neural networks.
		He made robots in China.
		He's a very intelligent, if crazy, person, and his viewpoint is that these machines do pose an existential risk, but there is, you know, a camp that just sees it, the creation of a god-like AI, as a religious imperative.
		And so that's one element, the idea of actually creating technologies to destroy human beings.
		The other, though, even the more gentle option, what is humanity?
		I mean, human beings are free in their natural state.
		Human beings are capable.
		Human beings are beholden to one another, connected to one another in very organic ways.
		And human beings are also quite limited.
		And if they're wise, they're aware of those limitations.
		Transhumanism seeks to destroy everything we know as human, as homo sapiens have been from the caves on up through the industrial revolution until now.
		And they see these transformations that we're already witnessing with digital technology, transitions from a sort of normal social environment to this hyper digitized environment with social media and every other element.
		And all the way through anything from romance, to education, to family life, all of this has already been radically transformed in the last say 10, 15 years.
		They want to see that push forward until most of what we know as recognizably human has either been eliminated because it was fallible, because it was not any good to begin with, evolution left us with it, or to augment it and perfect it technologically until it's no longer recognizably human.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		the end.
		Let's go to Amazon and get the book right now.
		The book is Dark Aeon.
		Joe, thank you very much.
		Honored to have you on here.
		We'll make sure everybody gets a shot at getting the book.
		Thank you very much.
		Be back with Natalie Winters in a moment.
unidentified		We will fight till they're all gone.
		We rejoice when there's no more.
		Let's take down the CCP.
		War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let me repeat this.
		The artificial intelligence aspect, and that's just one part of transhumanism you're going to get in the book.
		The biotech part is just as scary, I think even scarier.
		And that's not getting a lot of play now because you're not seeing a lot of what's coming out of these labs, but it's all about to hit.
		In that regard, I want to get to our next guest, of course, our top investigative reporter, the executive editor, our co-host.
		She does the show a lot on her own, Natalie, but you're still one of the best reporters in this town.
		In talking about the bioweapon that dropped on us in 2020, Alex Jones and his guys kind of brought this up last week, but you went and found the receipts.
		Because I've seen now where I think the announcement Rutgers is going to require a mask and a jab.
		You've got another, I think in Hollywood, there's some certain theaters.
		You're starting to see this play up of all sudden there's another variant to COVID, but you found the receipts.
		This article of yours is blowing up.
		Tell us what you found and what we should be prepared for since they're not going to be straightforward with you and tell you what they're planning on, but you can see it and where they're putting their money.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the important part.
		And when you link together the way the mainstream media has been covering really what is an abysmal uptick in COVID-19 cases, and you link it with the way that they're spinning it, they're automatically linking it to boosters and mandates.
		And they almost always end these little media segments with the advice of make sure you wear a mask if you're at risk, older and going into public settings.
		This really is the same refrain that we heard in the early days of COVID-19 all the way back in 2019.
		And of course, the early days of 2020 and some people have still been peddling those falsehoods.
		But it's important, I think, as you said, to get the receipts on where exactly this narrative is careening towards.
		And obviously this comes on the heels of the breaking report out of Infowars from insiders at TSA and CBP saying that they want to Reinstitute lockdowns and mask mandates.
		But what I found was really, really interesting.
		I always joke, I'm probably the only American who frequents not only the FARA website, but the federal government spending database and goes through it with a fine tooth comb.
		But it's so important to do that because that is really how I think you can use evidence to find where our global elite, where the ruling class in the United States is trying to go towards.
		And in the case of COVID-19, these new variants, which we've all been hearing about, I've already seen an uptick in multi-million dollar contracts coming particularly from the VA and also the Department of Defense to various entities specifically for COVID-19 equipment, whether that's test kits, in some cases they just refer to it broadly as equipment.
		But what I think the most interesting part is that a lot of these contracts have to do with hiring outside consultants and outside firms to help enforce what they refer to as COVID-19, quote, safety protocols.
		And what I really think the smoking gun is here is, if you look at the dates, the timelines for when these grants and these contracts are expected to roll out, some of them aren't even starting just now, early August.
		They're set to start in September and October, and in some cases run all the way, believe it or not, through 2028.
		That is the year, 2028.
		And I think that this just goes to sort of what I was talking about in the beginning, and even links to transhumanism, right?
		It's easy to focus.
		A small scale just with the media narrative is this week about, you know, a surge in COVID cases, but you have to link it to the bigger narrative.
		And I think that that has to do with COVID-19 in part because Pfizer and Moderna's profits are down, but also it links into the digital ID tracking, the vaccine passports to really making COVID-19 an annual vaccine that you have to get an annual virus that we have to deal with.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So Natalie, help me out here.
		I thought the evidence came up in the country, particularly you can see people not getting the jabs anymore, Moderna's profits, Pfizer profits falling to the floor.
		Hasn't the evidence, and we're always here to trust the science, hasn't the evidence been that safety protocols like mask mandates, all those safety protocols including the mask, and even the questions of The efficacy of the of the additional jabs.
		Has that either all been proven either wrong or at least enough question that there's not enough impetus or not enough intellectual backing to do this again?
		But let's let's leave aside the fact you caught him in the act.
		But isn't that all been kind of like dismissed by the American people and particularly the even elements of the scientific community?
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think your question presupposes that, you know, they instituted all of these mask mandates, the lockdown, the vaccine mandates in the name of public health, right?
		The experts were the experts in public health.
		Like I've said before, the only reason why people like Anthony Fauci were ever considered experts on COVID-19 is because they played such an intimate role in the creation of it by, of course, funding the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
		And in some ways, I think the fact that they are trying to institute all of these measures again, particularly the masks, particularly the boosters, really proves, I think, the original, the war room theory of the case, which is that it was never about public health.
		It was never about actually stopping the spread.
		It was always about using COVID-19 just like they want to use these other so-called crises, like climate change, to enact a certain agenda, to enact certain restrictions and curtail our liberties, our ability to be able to do certain things.
		Because you are right, the science really has It's, of course, disproven the efficacy of these methods for a very, very long time, since the onset of COVID-19.
		And I think the best evidence, like I said, Steve, that it really is about control, is that if you think about it, I would argue, really, the cardinal sin of the establishment during COVID, when what really enraged people across the political spectrum, not just the war room posse, was the censorship of people who dared to speak out, like me and you, and the fact that they weren't even willing to entertain discussions
		About the efficacy of the vaccines, the masks, you name it, shows that it never really was about how to save and protect and defend as many lives as possible.
		It was how to consolidate as much power in the quickest way possible.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Natalie, since you said that some of these, by the way, when you had, when Alex Jones did it last week, you know, it was a conspiracy theory, then Alex came on here and walked through all the whistleblowers, now Natalie's gotten the receipts.
		When you say that these contracts started mid-September, some of them go all the way to 2028, I don't want to let House leadership off the hook.
		This whole big fight we're going to have on the, on the appropriations bill, All of this could be taken out of if we had a House Republicans in leadership that had the stones and said, they go, hold it, we're not going down this path again.
		And particularly the constituents in our district are not going to pay for this madness again.
		They're not going to pay for their own enslavement.
		Should the House get all over top of this in this appropriations process, ma'am?
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		I think there's no better and, frankly, more serious example of weaponized government spending and, frankly, federal government weaponization than what we see they did and will continue to do when it comes to COVID-19.
		So I think it's imperative that they cut down on the spending.
		And I have to say, Steve, I As you know, obviously consume a lot of media mainstream and otherwise.
		And the amount of House Republicans that I have seen go particularly on Fox to react to whether it's, you know, the latest Hunter Biden scandal.
		I think James Comer was talking about the appointment of the special counsel and he's sitting there on Fox again, totally nice guy, but he goes, this is a joke.
		This is a joke.
		Dear House Republicans, this is not a joke when the federal government is using millions in taxpayer funds to start inking contracts with suppliers and federal grant recipients to quite literally be engaged in COVID-19 pandemic era protocols, whether it's lockdowns, mask mandates, testing through the year 2028.
		So I understand you have to get your strongly worded letters and tweet your crazy things out to go viral.
		But they are turning a blind eye to what I think is really, in the purest form of evidence, laying the groundwork in the form of COVID-19 test kits, masks, you name it, the protocols, to really roll out what is another pandemic.
		And believe me, they know from the first time they gave us way too much freedom, because we were able to sort of overcome what I think their ultimate plan was for us.
		So believe me, the second time when they start rolling out these lockdowns, they are going to do so with an iron fist.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Natalie, where do people follow you on the site to get to our newsletter and to follow you on social media?
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		I'm Natalie G. Winters on all platforms.
		I will be on Tim Pool tonight at 8 p.m.
		and you can go to warroom.org and sign up for the newsletter.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Are we sending security with you?
		We're not sending security?
		I almost feel like we have to because I want to make sure we get you back.
		I'm not too sure about the Harper's Ferry situation.
		Just kidding.
		We love Tim Poole.
		We love when you're on there.
		You're getting to be a regular.
		You replaced Posovic.
		Poso.
		Natalie, thank you so much.
		Good luck tonight on Tim.
natalie winters ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We love Tim Poole.
		Love the Tim Poole Show.
		Let's play the cold open and we've got Nolan Chang is in Maui for us.
		I want to play the cold open for Nolan and then go right to Nolan Chang.
unidentified		Wow, he's finally here!
		Wow, yeah!
		Awesome, awesome!
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thanks for nothing!
unidentified		Thanks for nothing!
		F**k you!
		Hey, right here, hey, f* you Joe Biden, f* you, f*** you.
		No Biden, no Biden, no Biden, no Biden, no Biden, no Biden, no Biden, no Biden.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We got much more of this but it was humiliating.
		Nolan Chang, give me your assessment first of Biden's trip.
		Walk me through what actually happened yesterday, sir.
unidentified		Well, as you can see, he received a very warm reception.
		People were sharing their aloha with him.
		Too bad you blocked out their hands there.
		They're probably using this sign, right?
		For him.
		I don't think he was very well received.
		Look at how he responded to this whole situation.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		But Nolan, hang on a second, but the people out there, these are generally very nice people, welcoming.
		I mean, it was pretty extraordinary.
		For people, mainlanders like myself, when I saw, given my time at Pearl Harbor, my limited time there, but I wish, I mean, Maui is not considered a hotbed of MAGA or UltraMAGA.
		And I'm telling you, brother, and I try to look as much footage as possible.
		That was not a warm welcome.
		People are incredibly, they're furious about what happened, sir.
unidentified		Definitely, definitely.
		So I was just kidding right about the hand gestures and whatnot.
		But yeah, oh yeah, it's very emotional.
		Why?
		Because he's not supporting us.
		Look at what he said when he was interviewed.
		No comment.
		How would you feel if your loved ones was in that fire and never came out of it?
		Right?
		People who are close to you.
		This is a very emotional issue.
		They destroyed Lahaina.
		And he never gave us any support.
		And the people are, you know, I mean, You saw their reaction, and they're very vocal.
		The Hawaiian people are very loving, very kind, very caring.
		That's what Aloha is all about.
		But if you rub them the wrong way, if you don't respect them, if you don't reciprocate, if you don't show your love for them, then all you do is disrespect them.
		And not support them, right?
		I mean, this is how they're going to react.
		We're just human beings.
		This is exactly how they're going to react.
		And I tell you what, you thought Mauna Kea was a sensitive issue, right?
		With everything that was happening up in that telescope.
		This is a thousand times more meaningful and more sensitive to the Hawaiian people.
		They're not going to let this die.
		This is serious.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Nolan, can you hang on for a second?
		We're going to go to break, but I want to come back.
		One of the things that's most disturbing to me, it doesn't seem any organized effort to get to the bottom of what happened.
		It doesn't seem an organized effort to get the information out about what happened in casualties.
		I mean, here in Mainland, we're hearing as many as 1,300.
		They've already admitted 800 missing people right now.
		We're hearing the majority of these could be children.
		So we're going to take a short break.
		We're going to come back.
		Nolan Chang is out in Maui now.
		He's out there on assignment with us, doing a terrific job.
		We're going to ask the questions that need to be answered about this horrific tragedy in Maui.
unidentified		be back in a moment
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		here's your host steven k bat you know yesterday was so embarrassing uh...
		It was I felt badly for the people in Maui because the lack of respect of the Biden regime.
		But politically, you can tell they're going to move on from Biden.
		The kind of, really, for people that are so kind and so nice to have that kind of reaction, it just shows you how awful this regime is in showing the lack of respect to people.
		Breaking news, and we'll cover more of this tomorrow morning, but it's announced that Paul Ryan, a board member of Fox, is going to be in Milwaukee supporting Team DeSantis.
		So we'll get back into that tomorrow morning.
		We're not doing any coverage from Milwaukee.
		We're going to talk about the Murdoch's attempt to thwart President Trump.
		Nolan, the thing that is terrible is that what's happening to the people of that part of Maui, and particularly their livelihoods, their homes, the rebuilding, to make sure these speculators can't come in and buy it up.
		Who's accountable for this?
		What actually happened, particularly the missing?
		The bid in the answer right now is $800.
		They admit to $800.
		People are saying there could be as many as $1,300, and the majority of these may be children.
		Can you get us up to speed on anything that you know right now on any of the situation, either in the investigation, the recovery of bodies, or what's going to happen with folks going forward?
unidentified		Yeah, it's going to take a little while to get specific information, but let me tell you this.
		I want people, I want the pastor to think about this, to answer your question, Steve.
		They may not know that our governor is the most powerful in the nation.
		Why?
		Because he selects all his cabinet, all of his cabinet, and a tier below that.
		None of his cabinet members are elected by we the people.
		He selects them all.
		So he has a lot of power.
		And what I'm going to tell you is he can easily solve a lot of these problems.
		There's a lot of unanswered questions.
		There's a lot of uncertainty.
		There's a lot.
		And what we need is closure right now.
		The Hawaiian people want closure.
		And so we talk about if you were the leader or the posse, if you were the governor of our state and you're the most powerful governor in the nation, no other governor has this kind of power.
		And Steve, you know that.
		So what we want is you have to take care of, if you're the governor, you want to take care of your people, you want transparency, and you want accountability, right?
		And so as a governor, Look at what you just said, Steve.
		You're right.
		I heard that 80% of the burn area has been covered, and they only identified 111 bodies.
		Well, if I was governor, possibly, if we were the governor, what we should do is let's go to the morgue.
		Let's find out exactly what the head count is.
		And I don't want to be insensitive.
		How many people have perished in this fire?
		How many are children?
		More importantly, how many are children?
		If you were a parent and you're missing a child in that fire, you want to know what happened, and you want to know Where is the remains?
		So if they went through 80% of that burned area and only uncovered 111 bodies, I'm asking a lot of questions now.
		If we're the leader, if we're the governor, we want to be transparent, we'll come up with all that information.
		And he's not.
		And he's sitting on a ticking time bomb right now.
		The longer he waits to give the people here in Hawaii that answer, the louder the explosion, the bigger the explosion is going to be if he waits.
		And waits and waits and waits and doesn't tell anybody anything.
		So now you have this emergency manager, right?
		A lot of people don't know that every year, we in Hawaii, we know that the hurricane season, not tsunami season, hurricane season runs from June through November every year.
		And June and July, the state comes out with all kinds of information preparing people for any kind of disaster, not only a hurricane, any kind of disaster, hurricane, earthquake, tsunami, you name it.
		That we know that when that alarm goes off, the EBS goes off, something wrong is happening, right?
		In this case, it was a hurricane coming.
		So if the EBS went off, That emergency manager said, Oh, no, everybody was taught and trained that it's going to be a tsunami and we will be running through the hills.
		No way.
		He's a dead, he's a liar.
		And everybody in Hawaii knows that.
		That's why we have no respect for him.
		And we have no respect for the governor.
		We have no respect for the president because they all know the truth and they're withholding it from us.
		So now this emergency manager, if we were the governor possible, what would we do in this situation?
		We want transparency and we want closure.
		So we should put this guy because we're the most powerful governor in this country.
		I don't want to go through the judicial system because that would take too long, but this manager should be put in a military tribunal.
		Put him in a military tribunal, have his day in court, present all of the facts.
		Right?
		To the people in our state and to our nation and to the world.
		And let the military people, let the military tribunal come to a decision whether he's innocent or guilty.
		And the people will be happy with that.
		The question will be answered in a week.
		That trial will be over.
		Then you have this water commissioner.
		Same thing.
		All of a sudden they took the emergency manager out of his position.
		They claimed he was sick, but they're hiding him someplace.
		And this water commissioner, They've taken him out of his position, hiding him someplace.
		Well, you know what happens.
		A few months from now, they're probably going to move him up.
		They're going to promote him.
	What do they call that?
	The Peter principle, right?
	For all these clowns.
	Well, this person, we'll put him in the military.
	We were the governor.
	Put him in a military court.
	Have his day in trial.
	Let him present himself as to why he withhold turning on that spigot for hours.
	I heard it was four to six hours.
	We heard different stories.
	Let him have his day in court.
	Let the military tribunal make a decision, right?
	Innocent or guilty.
	And the people will be happy.
	It'll be over quick.
	Three to five days.
	It's done.
	The indigenous people, what do they want?
	They want their privacy, right?
	Right now.
	Imagine if your loved one, your whole town has been burned down.
	Your loved one may be missing.
	And now you have nothing against the tourists.
	You have the tourists coming in.
	They're having fun, right?
	They're on vacation.
	So now they're in food land and I'm one of the survivors or a relative of a survivor.
	You see them in food land.
	They're having a good time.
	They're in a high spirits because they're on vacation.
	But how does that feel for the people here?
	So now we're the governor.
	The indigenous people are asking us, me, the governor, right?
	We don't want the tourists in this area, not the rest of the island, only this area.
	So as the governor, being the most powerful governor in the nation, what I would do is, hey, you know what?
	We can shut down Karnapali, or maybe just leave it 20% open, right?
	20% occupancy.
	Shut it down.
	Oh, then everybody will say, well, you can't do that.
	It's going to explode, blow up the economy, right?
	All the hotels in that area, and a lot of them, they're going to go out of business.
	So what about jobs?
	Oh, remember, we're the most powerful governor in this country.
	We can easily shut down the rail, and all the people, local people know this.
	We'll shut down the rail, we'll take all the money from that rail project, and siphon it right over here to help the people in Lanai, right?
	And help the hotels stay awake, stay afloat, until the people heal.
	No, no.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And I could go on and on, Steve, go ahead.
		No, we're going to have you back tomorrow.
		Right now, social media, how do people follow you, Nolan?
		Why are you there for us?
unidentified		Yeah, I'm on Getter.
		And my username is Chanda21.
		C-H-A-N-D-A 21.
		C-H-A-N-D-A 21.
		Chanda21.
		And thank you for having us on, Steve.
		Really appreciate it.
		The people love you.
		And we thank all the people out there who have donated to Lanai from our country and the world.
		Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		By the way, keep doing a great job.
		This is an outrage.
		Let the folks know we're going to be there to get to the bottom of this.
		What happened, how it happened, who's responsible, and particularly where these children are, where the either 800 dead or 1,300 dead, what happened to them, and they need to be honored.
		Nolan Chang.
		War Room's man on the spot, thank you very much, I appreciate it.
		Okay, short commercial break, we're gonna be back for the second hour, it's gonna be explosive, so stick around, here in the War Room.
unidentified		Everything's just beginning, for the games you want to play.
		Bring it on and I will fight to the end, just watch and see.
		It's all started, everything's begun, and you are over.
		Cause we're taking down the CCP!

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