Aug. 1, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| And all of the evidence that we have gotten to date, including today, is an indication that Joe Biden did nothing. | ||
| Nothing, not even approximating improper, much less wrong or illegal. | ||
| There is no evidence linking Joe Biden to anything related to Hunter Biden. | ||
| And in fact, the evidence that we got today is confirmation, Anderson, That the only official action Joe Biden took in connection with any of, that was connected to any of Hunter Biden's businesses, was to urge the Prosecutor General to be fired from Ukraine. | ||
| And Devin Archer, the witness today, said that Burisma, on whose board he sat with Hunter Biden, did not want that Prosecutor General fired because he was, quote, under their control, unquote. | ||
| So the only official action here that is at issue actually went counter to what Hunter Biden's business interests might be. | ||
| And this investigation, Anderson, needs to end and it needs to end now because what we're doing is badgering a private citizen and there's no legitimate legislative purpose at all. | ||
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But it's great to have you here. | |
| So good to be here. | ||
| Help us understand who Devin Archer is and what he did and did not say yesterday in that meeting. | ||
| Devin Archer was Hunter Biden's business partner from 2013 to 2016, and he was most notably on the board of Burisma with Hunter Biden. | ||
| And what he testified to yesterday completely absolves Joe Biden of any involvement in Hunter Biden's business world. | ||
| And notwithstanding whatever alleged smoke Chairman Comer says there is, the witness testimony was very clear that Joe Biden was not involved in any of their business dealings. | ||
| Joe Biden got no benefit. | ||
| Joe Biden did not change any of his actions for the benefit of his son in any way, shape or form that Hunter May have, quote, promoted the illusion of influence on his father. | ||
| But the witness was very clear that it was an illusion. | ||
| There was no actual influence. | ||
| And what the evidence has shown in this entire investigation, and we keep getting witness after witness, who's supposed to be their star witness showing Joe Biden's connection, is the only evidence is that the Joe Biden's official actions. | ||
| Let me take it. | ||
| Just put a pin in that. | ||
| And hold it, don't rewind that, and I'm going to come back to that in a moment. | ||
| It's Tuesday, 1 August, so we're here, right? | ||
| That is Dan Goldman, and he is, well first of all, I think he's the heir to the Levi Strauss fortune, so he's a multi-millionaire, or billionaire, or however you want to say it. | ||
| He was the counsel on the, he badgered Trump and everyone on the on the ridiculous first impeachment about Ukraine. | ||
| The perfect phone call. | ||
| This is a super bad guy and probably the most partisan guy there. | ||
| He ran to replace Letitia James and the campaign went like two weeks when he had no support. | ||
| This guy will look you right in the eye and lie to a straight face, but they are absolutely totally panicked. | ||
| On this Devin Archer thing, because he jumped out there right away afterwards and said, we've got to shut this thing down. | ||
| You can't be doing this on taxpayer expense. | ||
| I want to bring in Natalie Winters. | ||
| Natalie, you followed all this closely, particularly the way that the Biden crime family has been bought and paid for by the Chinese Communist Party and of course others, right? | ||
| Give me your assessment of yesterday. | ||
| What you can glean from it, particularly the panic mode, because they're all in. | ||
| Go to the mics. | ||
| You've got to shut this down. | ||
| There's nothing to see here, and this has to end. | ||
| Natalie Winters. | ||
| I mean, Dan Goldman says it right there, shut down the investigations now and obviously the actions by a lot of the Biden family members and their allies in terms of and the DOJ and trying to shut down these whistleblowers sort of, I think, represent that strategy. | ||
| But I mean, look, you don't need to take my word for it. | ||
| Take Devin Archer's word for it. | ||
| He said the Bidens were in the actual business of influence peddling and really rattled off what I think It's pretty damning evidence. | ||
| I think even that cuts through to the most partisan of partisans, maybe with the exception of Dan Goldman. | ||
| But saying that Joe Biden was intimately involved in at least 20 phone calls with Hunter Biden's business partners conveniently The same members of the Chinese Communist Party, the same Russian oligarchs, the same Ukrainian energy firms that have received very preferential treatment, not just from the Obama administration, but have continued to enjoy that same preferential treatment from the Biden regime. | ||
| And I think with the key point here, I think people should sort of look at this through the frame of how the establishment media and people like Anthony Fauci really handled the story about funding gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
| Remember, At first, they denied any contact, right? | ||
| There was no relationship. | ||
| There was no U.S. | ||
| taxpayer funds that ever went to the lab. | ||
| But then once we started unearthing evidence that indicated very clearly otherwise, then the goalposts shifted that, you know, linguistics, gymnastics started and they said, well, It was through a cutout. | ||
| It was through EcoHealth Alliance. | ||
| And that's frankly what you're seeing going on here because people may recall Joe Biden is on record repeatedly saying, I never discussed my son's business dealings. | ||
| I never played a part. | ||
| And now the refrain that you're hearing epitomized by people like Dan Goldman, but basically All of his allies in Congress is that, well, no, Hunter or Joe Biden was on the phone with Hunter, but they were just talking about the weather, which is just an absolutely preposterous claim. | ||
| Frankly, it shows you, America, how dumb they think you are. | ||
| But again, it's just important to, I think, contextualize the hearing yesterday, but more importantly, the spin that they're pushing and that we've seen from the last few days coming out From the White House because it's directly at odds with what they've said before, right? | ||
| Joe Biden, there should have been a, no pun intended, but Chinese wall between him and Hunter Biden on any of these business dealings. | ||
| But now we're seeing, not even just from Devin Archer's testimony, but from the interviews by the likes of Dan Goldman, that there was communication, but it was allegedly just about the weather. | ||
| Do we have, in fact, I'm going to ask my crack production staff here, the Seb Gorka tweet. | ||
| If that's booted up, I'd like to play that for the audience. | ||
| It's much shorter. | ||
| It gets to Goldman's piece. | ||
| Just give me a thumbs up when we got that so that we can show that. | ||
| Natalie, we're going to have Chadwick Moore on here in a moment because today's the launch day. | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| Let me play this and then I'll frame it. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play this short clip from Seb Gorka's Twitter account. | ||
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So to confirm, you're saying that the speakerphone conversations, they don't seem concerning to you because there is no specifics about business and it just seemed like it was clear that it was clear that it was part of the daily conversations that Hunter Biden had with his father. | |
| Um, and it was, and, and sounds like most of the time, uh, Now President Biden didn't even know who the people he was at dinner. | ||
| He was just asked to say hello. | ||
| And he would, you know, talk about the way he described it several times. | ||
| They asked over and over and over. | ||
| He described what the weather was, how, what's going on on your end. | ||
| The witness was very, very consistent that none of those conversations ever had to do with any business dealings or transactions. | ||
| They were purely what he called casual conversations. | ||
| Now this is when the hearing ended. | ||
| They jumped right out. | ||
| He hadn't collected his thoughts for his narrative. | ||
| He worked that up. | ||
| For Anderson Cooper last night and then overnight got the talking points down and of course winning Morning Show this morning for, you know, an entire segment and walked through it. | ||
| Natalie, we've heard that, you know, there was no ever discussion, didn't know anything about it. | ||
| Now it's just dropping by talking about the weather. | ||
| How dumb do they think people are? | ||
| So dumb. | ||
| And apparently that we have very short term memories, because if you read the way that CNN, the New York Times, or watch how they're covering it, the new term that they really like is the quote, illusion of access, right? | ||
| They weren't selling access, they were selling the illusion Of access, but that's at odds with everything that the Biden White House and really even the Obama White House has been claiming for years. | ||
| And I think it is interesting, you know, keep in mind last time the Hunter Biden hard drive story broke, that was when Twitter was at least more explicitly under control of the Biden regime and its Chinese Communist Party censors. | ||
| And of course, the big tech elites in this country maybe Not so much big tech now, just more Chinese Communist Party, but it really is interesting to see how this story has been allowed to take off more. | ||
| And frankly, I think why Democrats realize that this testimony is so damning is because Devin Archer is someone who has worked with the Biden family for years. | ||
| We're talking about a decade of business deals spanning the entire world. | ||
| This is someone whose voice cuts through to independence. | ||
| The same goes for the whistleblower types, the IRS agents, because they're not partisan actors. | ||
| As much as I love you, love myself, love Rudy Giuliani, when we break stories, it comes from a certain angle. | ||
| But when you have people like Devin Archer, when you have the IRS whistleblowers, even the FBI whistleblowers, people at the DOJ who aren't partisan actors, clearly, if anything, their allegiances should be with the Biden family. | ||
| Nine times out of 10, they're registered Democrats. | ||
| I think that's why you see the Democrats in such full-blown panic mode, because they know this messaging is what really cuts through. | ||
| And especially now with social media platforms being a little more open, it really can, I think, reach more people. | ||
| And it's a heck of a lot harder to dispute Devin Archer, who was in the proverbial room where it happened. | ||
| When he's saying Joe Biden was on the phone, American people are not dumb to know that they were just talking about the weather. | ||
| And if they were, I'm sure it was part of some, you know, green energy deal involving the Chinese Communist Party buying our rare metals. | ||
| So it's an insult to the American people, but I think that's what we've come to expect. | ||
| People have to understand when you talk about the CCP and Brisa, these are strategic Partners. | ||
| The energy company was not just an energy company. | ||
| It was like a capital markets desk you would have in a major investment bank or a big commercial bank like JP Morgan that helped allocate Capital and resources on the One Belt One Road initiative, which was the CCP's major material aspect of trying to consolidate the Eurasian landmass and their geopolitical move to break American Pax Americana. | ||
| This is to the heart of the geopolitical crisis of the 21st century, the Biden family. | ||
| So let's never lose. | ||
| Let's always keep the camera a little bit back. | ||
| In full frame and remember the Biden family consciously sold out their country. | ||
| Consciously sold out their country to the greatest existential threat. | ||
| Maybe besides the deep state that the American people have ever faced. | ||
| This would be equivalent of being partners with the with Hitler's crowd in the early 1930s. | ||
| Right? | ||
| This is what they did. | ||
| They came back and said, just talk about the weather. | ||
| Just talk about the weather. | ||
| Or, you know, maybe get a business update. | ||
| Nomenclature and linguistics. | ||
| This is one of the reasons that we do the War Room every day. | ||
| I want you to go back in this key phrase. | ||
| Everybody get your number two pencil out and write it down because Natalie, once again, has nailed it. | ||
| What they're pushing now is this concept of the illusion of access. | ||
| Once again, what is that, Natalie Winters, and why should we continue to focus on this as they try to get the Biden crime family off the hook? | ||
| Sure, I'll read you the kind of opening sentence from the CNN article recapping it. | ||
| They say, Devon Archer told the House Oversight Committee on Monday that his former business partner, Hunter Biden, was selling the illusion of access to his father, according to a source familiar with the closed door interview. | ||
| And if you look, You know, things always start in the New York Times and work their way through. | ||
| That really is the new phrase of the day. | ||
| Like I said, it goes against what the official line has been coming out of both the Obama White House, the Biden White House, the campaign. | ||
| But it's also, I mean, just at odds with what Devin Archer said, because he also says, and I quote, the Bidens were in the actual business of influence peddling. | ||
| And he goes through chapter and verse in a very damning way to the Biden family, all the individuals who have continued to receive preferential treatment from the Biden regime, people who Joe Biden was on the phone with, or in some cases, even in person at dinner But like I said, this goes back to sort of the Wuhan Institute of Virology gain of function trip where they just keep moving the goalposts. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| that if they do it subtly and gradually and do it with, you know, very unique syntax and twisting diction, that people won't notice it. | ||
| But we have, and it's not the illusion of access and people, you know, are all upset about Hunter Biden not being a foreign agent. | ||
| I think that's too euphemistic a term. | ||
| Yeah, he should register with Farah, but he's a traitor. | ||
| And I think that the ramifications for that are a heck of a lot worse than not registering with Farah. | ||
| Natalie, hang on for one second. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| Chadwick Moore is going to join us about the new book on Tucker. | ||
| And Tucker was maniacally focused on what he called narrative control. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Chadwick Moore, the author, Natalie Winters, our executive editor, next in the world. | ||
| Good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson tonight. Secrecy is a powerful tool of the liberal garish man does hunt for a really can be whatever you want to be. | ||
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When honest people say what's true, they become powerful. | |
| True things prevail. | ||
| So. | ||
| Chadwick Morse, a journalist in New York City, a very smart man, a frequent guest on our show. | ||
| Thanks so much for coming on. | ||
| It's Tuesday, the traditional day books are published. | ||
| We're going to go to Chadwick Moore in a moment. | ||
| Really honored to have him on and to be able to kick off the month of August with a powerful book about a very powerful individual, Tucker Carlson. | ||
| But Natalie, I want to go back to you for one second. | ||
| Given your family, the way you were raised, your formation, your education, your professionally, what you've done at National Pulse and here, and I don't know, 20, before you're 22 years old, you're not one that throws around terms loosely. | ||
| You always make sure. | ||
| And one of the reasons I think you've done so well as an investigative reporter is that you always make sure that you've got the receipts. | ||
| So when Natalie Winters sits there and says, Hey, You know, they're running around and using the term influence peddling, which is a powerful term in politics. | ||
| They're using the term that he is an unregistered foreign agent, and they went after Flynn and other people because of Manafort and Flynn against others before that. | ||
| But that misses the point. | ||
| This is about nomenclature and linguistics, and he's a traitor. | ||
| This is about narrative control. | ||
| And I've got huge problems. | ||
| And I'm not saying that the Republicans are not well-meaning and good people with good hearts and their hearts are in the right place and trying to do it. | ||
| But we're not at that phase in the fighting for this Republic. | ||
| We're in a war. | ||
| And you have to be maniacally focused, relentless, and tough as boot leather. | ||
| And our opponents are that. | ||
| You may hate their politics. | ||
| You may hate what they're trying to do with the country. | ||
| But the Dan Goldman's were, the Mark Elias's were, these guys are killers. | ||
| And, uh, and they play smash mouth. | ||
| Look at just Dan Goldman, what they've done in the mainstream media in the last, uh, less than 24 hours. | ||
| And of course it's, it's ludicrous, but it's, uh, it's the way they roll. | ||
| Cause they understand narrative control. | ||
| When we get to Chadwick Moore, an individual who knew that better than anybody was Tucker Carlson. | ||
| And the reason Tucker Carlson is not at Fox News, not to Murdoch's, is exactly about this concept of narrative control. | ||
| What would you recommend, Natalie, about this issue that The Republicans in these committees don't have a Natalie Winters that's at the forefront and up on, and not just on Fox, on MSNBC or CNN. | ||
| The Republicans should have, they should have had last night, hard-nosed representatives who could go out there and defend this and make the case on the CNN shows and the MSNBC shows, and you just don't see that. | ||
| Do they have any concept, Natalie Winters, of narrative control, ma'am? | ||
| I have to say, I feel like I'm just getting old enough where when you say my age on air, I start to get embarrassed. | ||
| But that aside, when it comes to House Republicans doing what they do best, which is, you know, really no bark and frankly no bite, You know, Dan Goldman has more courage, albeit deranged courage and tenacity. | ||
| And I think one of his fingers than the entire House Oversight Committee does. | ||
| I mean, they impeached Donald Trump for what Joe Biden basically did. | ||
| And remember, Steve, the only reason, in my humble opinion, that this hearing actually happened because the DOJ was trying to stop it, right? | ||
| They were trying to throw Devon Archer in jail was because Matt Gaetz was brave enough to really kick up a firestorm on Twitter and get some of House judiciary to back him up to say, we will make sure this hearing proceeds. | ||
| But the real tell that no one on oversight is actually doing anything worthwhile Is that there's really only one, at least in my opinion, Republican member of Congress that they go after the same way that they do you, the same way that they do Donald Trump, and that's Matt Gaetz. | ||
| I mean, the ethics committee violations, the investigations, the DOJ. | ||
| I mean, James Comer, if he's really leading a crusade to get the evidence to impeach Joe Biden, he should be getting A complete attack from the mainstream media. | ||
| It's sort of silence. | ||
| Ethics committee violations, they should be trying to remove them from the committee. | ||
| There's no efforts to actually go after these people because they're not doing anything worthwhile. | ||
| So I would say to them, stop staffing your committees, not just with Democrats and holdovers from the January 6th committee days. | ||
| But stop staffing your committees with Republican establishment sellouts who all they care about is being able to get a job at whatever lobbying firm, probably that's somehow related to Hunter Biden and the law firm that he worked for in the same office complex, someone who's not part of that swamp ecosystem. | ||
| But unfortunately, I mean, I live in DC now, I'm forced to see the kind of people who work on the Hill, they have no backbone, because they want to play within the system. | ||
| They need to hire people on these committees who want to burn it down. | ||
| And I say that in all seriousness, people who aren't scared of the Biden family industrial complex, people who aren't scared of the ramifications of a weaponized DOJ. | ||
| And at the point in which we still have, like I said, Democratic holdovers from the January 6th committee, we're never going to actually go after the Bidens and, more broadly, go after the administrative state, that it's that existence that allows the Biden family to get away with their corruption. | ||
| And I hope we get our act together because Steve, if we don't, I could only imagine how the Biden influence peddling scam will continue after he leaves the office of the president. | ||
| And they know that there really are no ramifications because you could quite literally have a whistleblower come in and say the president of the United States I want to go to Chadwick more. | ||
| This is the reason that in this book, Tucker launches today. | ||
| People's Liberation Army, proxies of China's political warfare department. | ||
| Joe Biden was on the phone with them getting his son millions of dollars and nothing happens. | ||
| I want to go to Chadwick Moore. | ||
| This is the reason that in this book, Tucker launches today. | ||
| We need everybody to get a copy of it and read it. | ||
| I don't want to give up all the amazing details in it. | ||
| But isn't the fact that the reason that Tucker Carlson is not on Fox News tonight at eight o'clock is exactly what Natalie just said? | ||
| That Tucker wanted to go and burn it down, the establishment, the system, the administrative state, get to the crime and the influence peddling, and the Murdochs don't want that. | ||
| And you can see that on page after page of this book, Chadwick Moore. | ||
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Yeah, I would agree with that. | |
| I think it's inarguable at this point with everything we know. | ||
| Obviously, Fox is still keeping it mysterious why they took him off the air. | ||
| The best excuse they've come up with was a private text message that he sent to someone that they called racist, which of course it wasn't racist at all. | ||
| But it seems clear at this point that his taking off the air was 100% political and had to do with the narrative. | ||
| This is evidence not only in the fact that they fired his entire remaining team, nine people in one fell swoop, which is really odd for a cable news channel. | ||
| They're worried about Tucker loyalists in the network, of which I can report there are many. | ||
| I've had a lot of sources inside Fox who are leaking me things. | ||
| Over the past few weeks. | ||
| And I can honestly say none of them were producers on his show. | ||
| They were producers on other shows. | ||
| So, uh, they got rid of all those people. | ||
| Very unusual. | ||
| And there's kind of a witch hunt within Fox of, it seems at least, tracking down people who are loyal to him. | ||
| It's completely about narrative control, whether it's a Murdoch's, whether it's people on the board, whether it's they see it purely as a business decision. | ||
| Obviously, there are lots of big, nasty companies of controlling interest in News Corp. | ||
| Could have been any one of these people or all of them together that wanted him silenced. | ||
| And that's what they've attempted to do and continue to do as they send cease and desist letters and whatnot for him posting his views on Twitter. | ||
| See, that's why this book, and for the posse to get it, it is not just a history of Tucker Carlson or a traditional biography. | ||
| It really puts you in the moment. | ||
| And Chadwick, that's because you spent so much time with Tucker over the last year, and in fact, you delayed even the publication, I think, of the book to make sure you got all the aspects of it when he was let go, correct? | ||
| And this book, I think, does more than anything to put one in the moment about exactly where we are and to understand the fact that Fox is not here for a search for truth and Fox is certainly not here right now to support really the underpinnings of what MAGA stands for and what this populist revolt is. | ||
| In fact, they're the exact opposite. | ||
| When you read this book, it's quite clear the fights and the battles and people have no earthy idea what Tucker Carlson and his team went through. | ||
| That's why I think Chadwick is the amazing thing about what you've been able to accomplish. | ||
| You really put us inside and show on the biggest, most... I mean, you think about it, Chadwick, and TV, it's ludicrous on cable TV to take off the biggest program you've had, and quite frankly, the biggest program you've ever had, correct? | ||
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Yes, and you even have, I mean, even very recently, Paul Ryan, who's on the board of Fox, saying he would vote for literally anyone but Trump. | |
| Does that mean Gavin Newsom? | ||
| Does that mean Kamala Harris? | ||
| So it's very ideologically clear. | ||
| What's interesting, though, and what I think has sort of come to light after what's happened to Tucker is that, you know, this sort of feels like a historic moment, and it sort of feels like the moment in which the first time the mainstream media will play a very insignificant and minute role in a presidential primary. | ||
| For either party. | ||
| And Tucker Carlson really seems to be the figurehead for that. | ||
| This, his being let go from Fox, you know, seems to me at least, mark the moment in which independent media will surpass mainstream media. | ||
| At least on the right. | ||
| The left may be further behind. | ||
| They seem to love their institutions and corporate media. | ||
| But it feels historic in that sense. | ||
| And that, you know, became clear a few weeks after he was fired. | ||
| And, you know, I did get to interview, we did push back publication of the book. | ||
| and got to interview him a couple more times since then to follow up on the aftermath and what happened. | ||
| But Fox doesn't really seem to understand what they had, or they also don't seem to care because they are too ideologically driven. | ||
| Chadwick Hanger for one second. | ||
| Natalie and Chadwick Moore are gonna hang with me for the next segment. | ||
| We also have Mike Shields, a quite brilliant piece on CNN. | ||
| about a tectonic plate shift in the voting base of the Republican Party. | ||
| All next in the War Room. | ||
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OK, welcome back. | |
| We wait till they're all gone. | ||
| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
| Let's take down the C.C.P. | ||
| Stephen K. Bann Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Chadwick, the speech that Tucker gave at the Kennedy Center, I think it was for the, I don't know, 50th anniversary, one of the big anniversaries, milestones for the heritage, was from all reports just an incredible speech and talked about his journey as a person but also talked about his journey as a conservative | ||
| and really got to some of the deep spiritual aspects of Tucker's life. | ||
| That's all incorporated in your book. | ||
| The fight and the intensity of the fight. | ||
| I don't think people understand and I would recommend to everybody in this audience and To get it to their friends. | ||
| Also this the book Tucker which comes out today It's not a traditional biography because it really puts you in the middle of this great conflict We have right now on essentially information warfare and you can see the Murdoch's With all their you know to them. | ||
| It's a it's a it's a it's a business But it's a business in a larger context. | ||
| They would take off their number one show. | ||
| A number one show by, you know, almost an order of magnitude. | ||
| When you talk about new audience, not the 73-year-olds or 75-year-olds that cut it on in the morning and leave it on or totally passive. | ||
| That's an empty calories audience. | ||
| I'm talking about, was it the 18 to 49-year-old demographic where Tucker always dominated and brought so many new viewers into Fox that would never go to Fox. | ||
| You know, ever, but to watch your show because of the populist, anti-establishment, anti-elite content of the show. | ||
| Look, we're very proud that the War Room, we wear the crown for selling the most books of any show, and we're quite proud of that because our audience is hungry for knowledge, hungry for information, and are book readers. | ||
| But are you booked for the next couple of days? | ||
| Because the launch day is always the big day. | ||
| You know, when you want to be on Charlie Kirk, and you want to be on Alex Jones, you want to be on Jack Posobiec, and you want to be on Emerald Robinson, and all these shows. | ||
| Are you booked on Fox shows over the next couple of days? | ||
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No, I'm not. | |
| I was regular on not only Tucker's show, but many other shows on Fox, including Greg Gutfeld's show. | ||
| And within about two hours, we announced this book, which was back in May. | ||
| I was pulled from all my upcoming appearances, and then Greg Gutfeld blocked me on Twitter, which was a little strange. | ||
| And so I've become, much like Tucker himself, a person non grata at Fox. | ||
| You are forbidden from even saying the word Tucker on air at Fox. | ||
| That's been the case since April 24th of this year when his show was taken off the air. | ||
| He is he who should not be named. | ||
| And the Fox hosts, God bless them, have dutifully fallen in line and they are complying as they, which is probably why they have jobs at Fox, although probably not for much longer. | ||
| Tucker knew that cable news was Always a temporary job. | ||
| He'd, of course, been at CNN, MSNBC, and he had a lot of mentors in his life to let him know that these jobs don't last. | ||
| You can be gone just, you know, overnight. | ||
| And he never really let that go to his head. | ||
| I think a lot of cable news hosts have a lot of egos. | ||
| They can be kind of jerks. | ||
| But he's always carried that around with him, so he was well prepared for what happened to him with Fox. | ||
| That does not mean he wasn't still and continues to be surprised and confused by it. | ||
| When you read the book, and like I said, once again, we recommend everybody get the book, Tucker. | ||
| It's out today. | ||
| Today's the start of the clock to make it a New York Times bestseller, which we're quite focused on assisting. | ||
| You say that people come to you all the time that work there, not just the producers and people who used to be there, but people on other shows. | ||
| Is there generally some corpus of people there that believe in this kind of populist, anti-establishment, anti-elite message of Tucker and his content, and quite frankly, his narrative? | ||
| Although the hosts and these other guys, and by the way, some of the hosts are great people, don't get me wrong, they're under tremendous economic pressure. | ||
| When the Murdochs tell you it's going to be this way, It's going to be this way, right? | ||
| And if you don't comply, you're gone. | ||
| But do you get a sense that there are folks inside, particularly on the content creation side, that truly support Tucker? | ||
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Yeah, I think inside Fox, people who work there, not just hosts, but everyone behind the scenes, talent producers, bookers, runs the ideological gamut. | |
| I mean, you've definitely got a ton of liberals at Fox, tons of liberals. | ||
| And you have more corporate Republicans. | ||
| And then you have a lot of these people who are More populist, they're more in line with Trump's thinking, with Tucker's thinking. | ||
| And, um, I mean, they're certainly everywhere. | ||
| Tucker was beloved at Fox, not just by people on his show, but people who had never even met the guy or just had a chance encounter with him at Fox News headquarters in Manhattan. | ||
| So everyone really, really liked him. | ||
| And, and he certainly, there are certainly people in there ideologically who agree with him. | ||
| And, you know, I get messages from people there who don't want to lose their jobs, but they are contacting me because they're so frustrated and upset about how Fox is behaving. | ||
| And, you know, a lot of people probably certainly want out, but of course there's economic constraints and whatnot. | ||
| We were honored to assist and help with the book launch down at Turning Point. | ||
| I can tell you, Chadwick, from the people that we got the books in the hand to, and there was a pretty big important crowd there, to a person, they love this book. | ||
| And as I said the time when I introduced you, you're a terrific writer and a great investigator to get to the heart of it and not Not just kind of, you know, meander around. | ||
| This book, you know, the key thing I tell authors on books is that make sure when you write that they're going to turn the page and this book you won't put down. | ||
| Make your pitch here for why this audience should buy this book and why this audience should push this book out to their friends. | ||
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Well, I think that he's become, you know, one of the most important voices in American politics. | |
| He's sort of on a level with, he's a once in a generation talent. | ||
| In broadcasting that, you know, compares only to, in recent memory, Rush Limbaugh in a lot of ways. | ||
| And, you know, I really wanted to, as you had mentioned, and thank you for your kind words, for capturing this moment and putting people right there with him and getting to know who he is off camera and as a human being. | ||
| I don't think that anyone's ever tried to do that. | ||
| That wasn't a smear piece, you know, a 9,000 word New York Times front page, whatever. | ||
| So, you know if you're interested who this guy is what he's what his world is like what motivates him and where he came from you know, I really hope that we captured all that in the book and And you have a better sense of him and and just kind of what a person he is and you know a really decent man And really grateful to him and his family for letting me into their their life in their world and for trusting me It was an honor to work on this Chadwick, you've spent a couple years of your life now on this. | ||
| Today begins the journey of you and the book. | ||
| How do people, they go to Amazon to get this. | ||
| We want to get the numbers up to make sure it's on the New York Times Best Seller. | ||
| It's in bookstores also starting today, am I correct on that? | ||
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That's correct. | |
| Books a Million, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or you can get direct from the publisher if you'd like. | ||
| It should be available anywhere you get your books. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Chadwick, what is your social media? | ||
| We promise our audience will not block you. | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| Where do people go to follow you? | ||
| I know you're going to put up a lot of social media in the next couple of days. | ||
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Well, thank you. | |
| I appreciate that. | ||
| To your audience in advance. | ||
| You can find me on Twitter or xnow at Chadwick underscore more. | ||
| That's where I'm most active. | ||
| Chadwick, thank you. | ||
| We look forward to having you back on later this week to see how it's going. | ||
| And this is the big week for the book. | ||
| We want to push this to be New York Times number one bestseller. | ||
| So that we can put that in the face of the Murdochs, right? | ||
| Have I mentioned that they're actually foreign? | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| Chadwick, thank you so much. | ||
| Look forward to seeing your other hits. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| The book's terrific. | ||
| The book's terrific. | ||
| We were at Turning Point. | ||
| We co-hosted a book launch party. | ||
| And we gave out copies and people were calling me the next day, they stayed up that night reading it or read it the next day. | ||
| You will love it and you'll be, if you make sure you get one for a friend, they'll love it too. | ||
| So Tucker, the book is out today. | ||
| Mike Shields is one of the smartest guys I know in politics, former contributor, been a political operative and strategist in the Republican Party and conservative movement for many years, been a former contributor to CNN. | ||
| Mike, I want to take a minute because what I love is when a guy puts out a piece that's, I don't call them opinion pieces, they're really analytical pieces. | ||
| And particularly when they look at the world through a different set of glasses and say, hey, I think people are missing this. | ||
| Walk me through the CNN piece. | ||
| You went after this thing we always hear that midterm elections are better for Republicans in general because smaller turnouts benefit Republicans. | ||
| And you did this in an analytical way to say that's no longer the case. | ||
| And the reason is this tectonic plate shift in really who really votes Republican now. | ||
| Can you walk us through that? | ||
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Sure. | |
| You know, there is a conventional wisdom Amongst the media, also political operatives, consultants, people in Washington, Republicans, that believe that Republicans do better in midterms when there's a lower turnout, and Democrats tend to do better in presidential elections when the turnout is higher, and everyone just sort of lived off of that conventional wisdom for a while. | ||
| And we've now had enough election cycles in the last, you know, six, eight, ten years to see the data trends. | ||
| But that's actually not the case anymore. | ||
| And that fundamentally the Republican coalition has changed and we have ingested into our coalition a different type of voter. | ||
| And those voters, uh, and you know, this isn't, this isn't great news in a midterm, but right now we're in a presidential election. | ||
| We need to pay attention to it. | ||
| Uh, we have a group of voters that are supporting our candidates that Uh, oftentimes don't take part in midterms. | ||
| They're more likely to show up in a presidential election. | ||
| And so this is a complete shift of that thinking that has dominated a lot of political orthodoxy over the last, you know, 30 years. | ||
| Is that because of Trump? | ||
| Is it because it's a more populist message that we're pushing? | ||
| Is it that economics? | ||
| Parts of the country? | ||
| When you say our coalition has changed, what was the coalition before and what is that change and how did it come about? | ||
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Yeah, the answer is yes to all of those. | |
| And Steve, you're the person who understands this better than anybody because you've been talking about this for so long. | ||
| This is a worldwide trend, right? | ||
| The rise of populism and the polarization of our electorate along education and income lines and then beyond that geographic lines is a trend that started a while ago. | ||
| We really saw it in the 2010 midterms during President Obama's presidency when the Republican freshman class, we had 63 members and over half of them had never held office before. | ||
| And that was just a fundamental shift of how the Republican party was starting to attract voters. | ||
| And it began, those, those forces have been in place probably, I don't know, since the Berlin wall came down, uh, and, and the global economy started to shift, but it really became apparent in our politics then. | ||
| I think Donald Trump's candidacy put rocket fuel into it. | ||
| And so, uh, you know, I think the simple thing that media would say is, oh, this all became about because of Donald Trump. | ||
| These trends were there before Trump, and then he took advantage of them. | ||
| He was the right candidate at the right time for that type of electorate. | ||
| And now we've seen enough elections where it's become permanent. | ||
| It's not just a temporary aspect of politics that will change. | ||
| And at the same time that our coalition has changed in that direction, of course, the Democrats have gone the other way. | ||
| They are a more elite, more white, progressive party. | ||
| That are alienating working class voters, including working class voters of color, black and Hispanic in particular, voters that are moving over into our coalition, uh, based upon all of these changes. | ||
| And so politics is kind of downstream from that, uh, those economic and societal cultural changes. | ||
| But the establishment in politics, meaning the people that do campaigns and the media, are a little bit slow to pick up on the fact of how it's impacting our political strategy. | ||
| And so what we need to recognize is that the reason I wrote the piece is talking to candidates and recruiting them to run for office who will say, well, I'm not sure I want to run in a presidential cycle. | ||
| You know, isn't it better for us in the midterm? | ||
| And I base everything off of data. | ||
| This isn't just a guess. | ||
| This is literally what the data is telling us, and I put a lot of it into the piece, the CNN.com piece, where you can see the numbers don't lie. | ||
| We've seen this enough now and enough elections. | ||
| It's the real trend. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Mike Shields is going to join us after the break, or continue with us. | ||
| We've got Natalie Werner is going to bring her back. | ||
| Peter Navarro, we're going to do a breakdown. | ||
| We're going to deconstruct Governor DeSantis' economic speech in New Hampshire yesterday. | ||
| We're going to get to all of that next in the War Room. | ||
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Between two worlds, will you take the blue pill and continue living in a world where a corrupt few control everything? | |
| Or will you take the red pill and join us? | ||
| What the elites don't want you to know is that there are 200,000 open committee man seats in the Republican Party. | ||
| These party members are the ones who determine the future of the GOP. | ||
| Let's take our country back, one precinct at a time. | ||
| Visit precinctstrategy.com now. | ||
| Mike Shields is with us and Mike Shields brings up all the underlying risks. | ||
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you. | |
| Roots of this, you know, from the Reagan revolution, from Pat Buchanan's campaign, from the Gingrich revolution, from Ross Perot even, and then leading to when the financial collapse in 2008, as I said, the theory of the case is you've never had a financial crisis that somehow didn't have a populist movement. | ||
| All of that, the Tea Party revolt of 2010, the 63 first-timers, I think the largest, I think at the time, because the base, we only had like 150 seats. | ||
| It was such an extraordinary, extraordinary, 160 seats. | ||
| It was such an extraordinary time. | ||
| And many of those people are prominent today in the Senate, in presidential races, etc. | ||
| Mike, you take the data and you say, hey, since 2010, since the Tea Party revolt, it's pretty firm now. | ||
| We have the data and analytics, and now you can see that we're starting to attract particularly African-American males, Hispanic males. | ||
| The electorate's totally changed. | ||
| And we shouldn't be afraid of presidential cycles, right? | ||
| That we can actually turn out many more voters if people focus on it. | ||
| What is your call? | ||
| Because you're not an analyst, you're actually a doer, a man of action. | ||
| So you've done the analysis. | ||
| What is your message to political operatives, to donors, to the official kind of apparatus and structure, not just at the National, the RNC, but through the state parties? | ||
| What is the message that your analysis should show us to do? | ||
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We need to lean in. | |
| We have to seize the day. | ||
| If you don't like what's going on, if you want to change Washington, if you want to remove the terrible things that we see are going on in the country, the presidential cycle is when we have to put all of our chips on the table. | ||
| This is when the most of our voters in our coalition are going to show up. | ||
| And we've got to teach that to the operatives that think the old way. | ||
| We've got to force it on the media who are always going to have a narrative that's old. | ||
| And we've got to recruit candidates. | ||
| We've got to tell them, not only should you not be worried about running in a presidential cycle, if you want to run for office, now is the time. | ||
| You have to do it. | ||
| You've got to get in the game now because this is when our voters that pay attention more are going to show up. | ||
| And in midterms, we've got to be better in midterms. | ||
| It's another part of this is we've got to get a lot of the voters that are in our coalition. | ||
| They're not political. | ||
| They're not people that are embedded in politics. | ||
| They're Americans that are hardworking class people that are focused on their lives and not always on elections. | ||
| Presidential election comes around and they go, oh my gosh, yes, I'm going to vote. | ||
| So there's two calls to action. | ||
| One is lean in. | ||
| Now is the time. | ||
| Seize the day. | ||
| You need to give now. | ||
| You need to get involved now. | ||
| You need to run for office now. | ||
| We've got to build up as large of a Republican victory as we possibly can in 2024. | ||
| And then in the next midterm, we've got to be focused on this and make sure that these voters don't stay home. | ||
| No, no, this is what I tell people. | ||
| We can increase the margin in the House. | ||
| We can take the Senate. | ||
| We can win the White House. | ||
| We can do exactly what we did in 2016. | ||
| We kind of had to strap that together and put together, but that's what President Trump, that's what the historical figure like Lincoln and Reagan, they take things to the next level. | ||
| We are absolutely positioned to go next level on this if we just get maniacally focused on what we've got and focus entirely on how we deliver it. | ||
| I'll talk later and then the afternoon show about this is what disturbs me about this primary stimulus, the waste, the opportunity cost. | ||
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Yes. | |
| It's a mindset shift. | ||
| It's a cultural mindset shift of the people that are running campaigns to understand this is the time to be aggressive. | ||
| Mike, how do people get you? | ||
| Social media, website, all of that. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| And particularly, I push out Captain Ben and Grace. | ||
| I want to push this article out to everybody. | ||
| I want everybody to share it. | ||
| Carly Bonet, if everybody puts it up and shares it, everybody should read this. | ||
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Yeah, my Twitter is mshields007. | |
| And my firm is Convergence Media, which is convergencemedia.us. | ||
| Mike Shields, thank you for coming on. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
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Thanks for having me, Steve. | |
| Seize the day. | ||
| Carpe diem. | ||
| This is our time. | ||
| This movement's ascendant. | ||
| You see, in all the polling numbers, this is one of the reasons they're going crazy. | ||
| By the way, President Trump, the indictment watcher, another bunch of indictments this week. | ||
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Why? | |
| They can't beat him at the polls. | ||
| Okay, we're going to leave you a celebration of America, our music, our flag, our people, all of it. | ||
| We're going to end this hour with the Weavers, and this land is your land. | ||
| We'll be back with Peter Navarro and Natalie Winters at the top of the hour in just a moment. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
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We're sailing out to the New York Island Down the redwood forest Through the Gulf Stream waters This land was made for you and me As I went walking that ripenove highway I saw above me that endless skyway | |
| I saw below me that golden valley This land was made for you and me. | ||
| This land is your land. | ||
| This land is my land. | ||
| From California to the New York Island. | ||
| From the River Forest to the Gulf Stream waters. | ||
| This land was made for you and me. | ||
| I roamed and I rambled, and I followed my footsteps to the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts. | ||
| While all around a voice was sounding Saying this land was made for you and me ♪ The sun came shining and I was strolling | ||
| And the wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling As the fog was lifting a voice was chanting This land was made for you and me. | ||
| This land is your land. | ||
| This land is my land. | ||
| From California to the New York Island. | ||
| From the Redwood Forest to the Gulf Stream water. | ||
| This land was made for you and me. |
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