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Aug. 1, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
So I'm coming back up here to Studio North during January in order to be close to that.
Let me ask you now, again, keeping in mind the New Hampshire voters who are listening, the reason that Republican candidates come on this show all the time, including the former President, Governor DeSantis, they want to talk to New Hampshire voters.
What should they say to New Hampshire voters to get their attention, Governor, and more importantly, their vote?
They should say, um, they should not worry about policy, they gotta show some character, and they gotta listen.
See, what I told Tim Scott, and I help all the candidates, I do events with all of them, and I'll tell it, Tim Scott was one of the candidates, as an example, he's got this great background story, and I said, look, make it shorter.
Make your story a little shorter so you give them more time to tell their story.
You've got to connect with people on their issues, not yours.
And don't start trying to impress people.
I was talking to DeSantis about this and all that.
I said, don't worry about the policy stuff.
We got that.
You've got to be about character, about looking people in the eye.
And you've got to show that you're not just viable to stand on the stage.
You're the one on the stage.
You are the leader.
You are the winner.
You're the person that is going to inspire the rest of the party to get bigger and more excited.
So it's really about kind of that, a little bit of that charisma and leadership that they got to show to folks one-on-one.
steve bannon
Okay, it's Tuesday, 1 August, Year of Our Lord 2023.
I want to just connect before we just deconstruct here.
So how do I want to do this?
First of all, I want to say there's an Axios piece this morning about the existential threats facing mankind.
Of course, Axios is the Mike Allen.
That is the inside baseball, the inside baseball for the corporate and media elite and political elite in the nation's capital.
He lists out three broad things.
Climate change, artificial intelligence, and nuclear weapons.
Our six o'clock show today is going to be about going through all of those, about what the real threats are, okay?
And we're going to have Joe Allen, we're going to have Dave Walsh, we're going to have Ben Harnwell, I'm going to have Colonel Mills, and we're going to go through the entire six hour and deconstruct it because the buried lead in the article, they're saying because all these threats are overwhelming, converging, and now going to overwhelm Mankind and planet Earth, more than ever, they got a line in there, more than ever you need smart people in government.
The implication is those of you in this audience, our beloved war room cadre, our war room posse, our war room audience, those of you who breathe through your mouth the populist right, it's too stupid to be able to govern.
The reality is the exact opposite.
Now let me go to Sununu.
That's the governor.
He's the son of Bush 41's chief of staff who was deeply involved in this entire fiasco around Tiananmen and allowing General Scowcroft and Bush and all these to have the back of Deng Xiaoping and the Chinese Communist Party.
At the very moment, the very moment Well, we could have made up from all the sins that we had in allowing the communists in the State Department and the Roosevelt regime and under Truman to essentially give China to Mao Zedong and the communists in 1949.
We could have made up for all of that or maybe at least made a down payment on making up for it on the Cultural Revolution and the Great Famine and the Great Leap Forward and all of it.
But no.
The Bush junta had to support the communists and the Chinese Communist Party at the very moment.
The son, if his name was Chris Smith, would be selling shoes in some strip mall, right?
But he's the big talking governor.
The buried lead there is don't worry about the policy.
This is what Mike Shields' analysis is so important.
And remember, Mike Shields is part of the apparatus.
He's not some fire-breathing, wild-eyed populist like you find here in the war room.
But Mike Shields went back to the math, and that math shows you we've had a massive tectonic plate shift in these parties.
And it's not just about personality.
It's not just about Reagan and Pat Buchanan and Newt Gingrich and Perot and all these dynamic, charismatic personalities you had.
Underlying that, and that's why the financial crisis, the implosion, and then the Tea Party revolt, and then President Trump.
President Trump This is not some charismatic businessman.
President Trump came at a different angle of attack on fundamental policies, fundamental policies about America first economic nationalism, America first national security.
It was not just Trump.
Think about it for a second.
If Trump had just shown up and been spouting the exact neoliberal, neocon policies, Of Bush and just been another version of those 15 or 16 people he went after or he competed against in the 2015 and 16 primary?
Would that be Donald Trump that's the leader of this movement and it swept to a massive victory over Hillary Clinton?
Impossible.
It all gets back to policy.
Remember the very first time to actually have the sovereignty of the United States by sealing the border.
Right about confronting China and bringing manufacturing jobs back to the United States.
It's Trump.
But not just Trump is the charismatic personality.
Of course.
He's a great leader.
That's that's not question, but he had the content in the substance of that.
And remember what what Sununu says?
He tells him we got that.
We've got it.
We've got the policies.
That's neoliberal neocon right there.
You just go out.
Uh, as a circus act and, and, and dance around and your charisma, you know, this is why Tim Scott, and this is why, uh, Ron DeSantis.
And this is why Glenn Young, and they're going to come up with a different one.
Every time you just go out there and, and, and, and, you know, like Bush convince them, they want to have a beer with you.
Remember that they've convinced them, you know, the backyard dead, the suburban, and he wants to have a beer with you.
That is absolutely 1000% incorrect.
Donald J. Trump.
Became the President of the United States, not just because of his drive and his personality.
As I told you, we were so far behind.
We had no money.
We had a man, a message, a plane, and a disparate group of characters that were there.
That inner circle, you know, couldn't have been more than 20 or 25 people.
Peter Navarro being one of them.
Here is why I'm so upset.
We're going to... Caroline Renn is going to be in the evening show.
At five o'clock.
And Caroline's going to break down the $200 million that's been raised by PACs to oppose Trump.
This is about not just direct costs, it's about opportunity costs.
This is why I'm so furious about this primary and so furious at the foreign-born, the foreigners that run Fox, of really driving this.
You just heard Mike Shields.
We should come together now and focus on this presidential election where we can take the House, we can take the Senate, we can take the presidency again, and understand all the mistakes we made and all the opposition we had in 16, right?
Learning from those mistakes, learning who really are the good people, learning what policies we want to drive through, learning how you go after the administrative state, learning how you have to go after the Chinese Communist Party, can lead America to the sunlit uplands.
It's all out there, and now it can happen.
One of the reasons I'm so upset about this is that it's all, for the Keebler elves, it's all performative.
And Rhonda Santich, remember, he was there, they were going to do everything, and yesterday, and I'm bringing in Dr. Peter Navarro yesterday, yesterday, or Dr. Peter Navarro now, yesterday he was finally You know, going to talk about the economy, his ideas on the economics.
And, you know, he had a policy thing, I think, on the military.
He had one on immigration.
But they told him, you got to get off this woke thing because it's too one note.
It's important, but it's too one note.
note you got to broaden it out. Yesterday, any member of this audience that listens and watches the show fairly religiously and particularly focuses a lot or absorbs what we say on capital markets, international economics, macroeconomics has taken maybe even Peter Navarro's course for ten bucks, right, that he put up for the war room to get the course he taught at Harvard, could do a better job
job and I mean this you could stand up at that podium with no notes You could stand up at that podium with no screens, with no teleprompter, speaking from the heart and speaking from the head.
You could have given a coherent, succinct analysis of where the nation is from a worker's perspective and what the nation must do to change its course and how we can come together and drive those policies.
Any person in this audience that's that's watched us for the last couple of years and particularly has focused on those elements of the show.
unidentified
DeSantis's was a joke.
steve bannon
Don't get me wrong.
What I like is is on the it trends more towards our populist.
You know, our populist policies, and what we believe is populist, in fact, Politico's got a big story about this this morning.
They say five guys control Ron DeSantis.
Five guys, the big donors, as Navarro's pointed out from day one, have given all the money, and yet he has a populist message.
The problem is, it was so kind of infantile, and just to kind of throw it, clearly they slapped it together the last second.
He read it, and he read it in a completely You know, just a monotone weight.
Because it's not embedded.
It's not burned into his soul.
He doesn't fully understand how the pieces connect.
They also had a picture about, I think 30 people showed up for this thing.
I mean, it's just a disaster.
And yet, we're still in this primary.
They're still making a big deal about the debates.
I want to bring in Dr. Peter Navarro.
Dr. Navarro, you've taken time to watch the speech to go through it.
Give me your, just your analysis from the economics of where the Trump movement is and President Trump is and the driving populist economic nationalism of what Ron DeSantis had to say.
His big economic speech in New Hampshire.
Give me your assessment, sir.
peter navarro
See, I know we're talking about really serious stuff, but, When I actually watched the speech, I was thinking there's like a new drinking game I think we have.
It's like Trump Light.
The speech was Trump Light.
So it's like every time you watch a Ron DeSantis speech, you got to take a drink of a Bud Light, right?
This was communist China.
This was secure borders.
This was talking about the globalist elite.
This was throwing in rhetoric about Populism and nationalism and not believing a word of it, projecting the Trump message light in a very, very shallow way.
And if you're, I mean, you look, you're the king of political strategy, Steve.
It's like, you tell me if a guy's 30 points ahead of you, how do you reach him?
If you run on the same platform?
But when you do it, it's unbelievable.
steve bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
No, no, but you know, you can do it, but here's how you do it.
And I want to go back to that direct speech, one of my problems with it, because it is Trump-like.
Lisa, if you're going to do that, you have to make the case, I can deliver, and here's how I'm going to deliver.
Here's exactly how I'm going to do it.
unidentified
Exactly.
steve bannon
His thing was just a laundry list.
It was just a laundry list of what President Trump's been doing.
So if your argument is, okay, Trump's right on direction and architecture, but I can actually deliver, then it has to be granularity of here's what I'm going to do, how I'm going to do it.
It was just a string of aphorisms.
peter navarro
He just simply wasn't believable.
There were two things in there that were new.
One, he went off on quantitative easing as the same you and I in the forum talk about all the time, which is widening the income and wealth gap between the rich and the poor.
But even that he executed so poorly that it's a policy wonky point that it's not going to be salient when people go to the ballot box.
So he failed on all counts.
The other thing, I mean, look, delivery matters.
You've got with Trump, you've got this incredible, perfect combination of policy and charisma.
And if you just, what I love to do when I watch a speech and I do it twice is watch it the first time without any sound and just see what we got.
And with him, with Ron DeSantis, we got nothing.
It's vanilla.
And talk about guys who would be selling shoes.
One other thing on policy, Steve, which is really important.
He's trying to co-opt the China message from Trump.
But DeSantis is on record as opposing tariffs and being for free trade.
Think about that.
DeSantis opposes tariffs and supports free trade.
How do you bring Communist China to heal in the absence of what Trump used.
And when I was in the White House, it's the only thing that got their attention.
Like a smack in the nose.
Xi Jinping.
Yeah, I got your attention now, Xi.
And DeSantis.
unidentified
It's just one of those rhino... Peter, hang on for one second.
steve bannon
I know you got a bolt, but I just want to hold you to the break briefly.
We've also got Natalie's Got some very strong opinions about this speech, particularly about the CCP.
unidentified
We're going to get into all of it right after the break.
steve bannon
The first takeaway is that DeSantis' policies totally dovetail with Trump's and even gets into the quantitative easing and the dual mandate of the Federal Reserve.
There's some good stuff there.
Don't get me wrong.
And finally have a politician talk about quantitative easing or what we need to get to is quantitative tightening.
It's good and powerful, but he's doing that because, like Mike Shields says, we've changed.
The Republican Party has been changed.
That is the Trump revolution.
Now, every day up there on media, they're going, Oh, my God, you know, look at this.
Trump is actually what we've been telling people from January of 2021.
Not only is Trump coming back, he's coming back in a bigger, better version.
The New York Times, Siena Poll, The Harry Enten CNN poll, the Harvard Harris poll, the Morning Console poll, and the Rastman poll.
I've got five.
Five polls.
Only one of those would be considered even close to being conservative.
The other four all show Trump with dominating leads, but they also show him up in the presidential race.
Chris Sizzlizza, one of the mainstays of the mainstream media, is in total panic mode.
If Denver could put up that tweet.
He just tweeted out You know, alert, alert.
Biden won Hispanics by 33% in 2020.
The new New York Times Senate poll has Biden up by three points on Hispanics.
Three points.
Three points overall.
Peter Navarro.
It's not just Trump the man and Trump the leader.
It's Trump policies.
That's why you were, you're a former Democrat.
That's why you were, that's why you gravitated to President Trump.
By the way, President Trump being a former Democrat, you gravitated to President Trump.
You were his manufacturing czar.
He had you in there.
You put this amazing team together, Joanna Miller and Garrett Ziegler and others, these hammers, to bring jobs back here to the United States of America, understanding about economic nationalism and going after the CCP.
What is your takeaway, then, generally?
Now that you've seen the polling you were coming to about, we're wasting time in this primary because DeSantis clearly doesn't believe this.
That's why he had to read it.
It was pathetic.
He's reading it off a page, not the prompter, and he's, you know, five of the eight counties in around Washington, D.C.
are the richest counties in the country.
And what are they making and selling?
Hot air.
Come on, dude.
You got to believe it.
It got to be burned into your soul.
Navarro, your observation, sir.
peter navarro
Well, Steve, I share with you the view that we would be better off if the Republican party consolidated now around Donald Trump.
We didn't waste a lot of time and money on the Keebler elves.
And we got on with the business of winning the House and Senate.
And the White House.
And in my judgment, the most important thing that's going to take is a ground game that uses the Democrat model to legally stuff the ballot box on our side, which is to say that Republicans have to embrace absentee and mail-in voting with open arms and do everything we can from the day that people are allowed to vote in a given state.
Get our ballots to the box, because we saw what happened with Carrie Lake.
Once you rely on game day voting, you can be gamed.
We're going to get another indictment yet again down in Georgia probably this week, and Trump goes up in the polls each time.
I don't know when the establishment gets the message that what they're doing, that whiskey ain't working, but they're going to kind of keep doubling down on this.
And it's a tragedy for this nation.
I mean, you talked at the beginning of this hour about the Axios piece and how they want us to think about climate change and some of these other artificial intelligence and some of these other big issues, but the root cause Of all of the problems we're facing, besides this deep administrative state, is communist China.
And it's communist China which is causing the greatest climate change.
It's communist China which is going to use AI for the most nefarious purposes.
And this globalist kumbaya kind of, ironically, kind of Republican idea with a small R, where we know better than you, the people, being permeated now, both by the left and Axios.
And it's just, it's troublesome because we are in crisis mode.
Look, I'm an economist, Steve.
I've never been more fearful for this country than I am today.
And I've gone through a lot of crises, including the 1970s.
But that that Bidenomics cliff that's hanging out there, the way we're spending money on like drunken sailors on government funded projects that are going to really perversely restructure this economy in a very inefficient and stupid ways and basically offshore more of our jobs to communist China, particularly in the electric vehicle industry, where Elon Musk has already gone over to Shanghai.
Communist China is going to corner the market on the battery market and all of that.
I mean, serious issues.
This, DeSantis, like, get the hell out of the race now, sir.
You are a failure.
You took your shot.
The shot isn't working.
You're just a tool.
And the only people who are profiting from you right now, Ron, are the pollsters and the consultants milking you dry.
To that point, Stephen, I'll leave you with this.
I've got a great piece coming out in the Washington Times today, which talks about, ironically, even though Donald Trump is the most profitable entrepreneur in history, one of the most profitable industries he has now spawned is that of an industry designed to destroy him.
And it's the multinational corporations sending our jobs offshore.
It's Wall Street, Silicon Valley that enables that.
And it's all of these corporate media networks that benefit in ratings from attacking Trump.
And it's these political entrepreneurs like Pence and Christie and Nikki Haley who are taking that money and they know they can't win, but they're just pursuing fame.
And this is what we're up against, and the more people understand who the bad guys are and what their agenda is, the better we have.
So, you know, just go to my Substack, peternovar.substack.com, peternovar.substack.com.
It's got the piece up now.
It's going to be in the Washington Times later today online and tomorrow.
It should punch you right between the eyes, and Mr. DeSanctimonious, get the hell out of this race, sir, and support Trump.
It's time.
steve bannon
And remember, it's donors and the Murdoch's when Sununu says, we have the policies.
We've got the policy, you just go ahead and give the charisma.
peter navarro
Sununu, by the way, I actually knew his father quite well when he was governor, back when I was at Harvard.
Working on my first book, The Dimming of America, we talked a lot about how we needed coal-fired plants essentially for base load to make sure the lights didn't go out.
And Sununu at the time was like at the vanguard of that.
But yeah, then he goes off to Bush world and becomes part of the Communist China, send our troops to bad places, all of that.
And the kid, you're right, he'd be a shoe salesman if his last name wasn't Sununu.
And all he is, Steve, to be clear, and I've written this, is a stalking horse for the Rhino establishment.
He didn't have the cojones to run in New Hampshire himself, so now he's pushing Scott, he's pushing DeSantis.
He's pushing everybody he can to throw his weight around, and he's not running for governor again, and I know why.
steve bannon
The neoliberal neocon.
Peter, thank you so much.
We look forward to going to the substack in the article today on The Washington Times for the best op-ed.
peter navarro
That 6 o'clock show is on.
steve bannon
I'm looking forward to that 6 o'clock show.
It's going to be on fire.
Natalie, you've done more investigation on the Chinese Communist Party.
You saw DeSantis.
DeSantis.
Don't let me go there.
DeSantis.
Your assessment, ma'am.
natalie winters
Well, I'm glad it's so easy, because according to DeSantis' 10-point plan, he is going to end our abusive relationship with the CCP.
That's a direct quote, and that's about the level of granularity that you get, and then you just get some nice talking points.
Which are basically lifted from the Trump campaign's website and from Trump himself.
Well, I think, Steve, it shows what you were talking about.
Yes, we beat the neocons.
unidentified
They know they have to cuddle the Trump talk.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Natalie, hang on for one second.
We're in play.
This land is your land.
On a takeout right here, I'm going to bring you back.
Carrie Lake's going to join us.
Natalie makes a good point.
There's one line.
unidentified
We're going to end the abusive relationship.
steve bannon
A little light on the details.
Natalie Winters.
The tip of the tip of the spear in taking down the Chinese Communist Party.
unidentified
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steve bannon
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So, Natalie, we only got a couple minutes, but he had like, we must cut government spending.
I mean, literally there were lines in there.
We must cut government spending.
We must end the abusive relationship to China.
Yo, dude, I got that, okay?
Were you as shocked as me that there was no more granularity, even details, even an attempt at a detail of how you're going to like, maybe take on the Chinese Communist Party, ma'am?
natalie winters
Well, in some ways it is a victory because I think it shows that the consultant class that is running his campaign is no longer even trying to push their distorted delusions of, you know, free trade and spinning China as an ally as opposed to a competitor, let alone an existential threat.
But that just means that what he's saying is just talking points.
It's just, you know, quote unquote, red meat.
For the base, which is sort of, I think, off on the political calculus, because if there's anything that the MAGA base is about, and if there is really a cautionary tale, I think they should look to the House investigations that we see going on right now.
People don't want talk.
People don't want spin.
People want action.
And there's basically no actionable anything in his entire 10-point plan, which, by the way, I don't know how you take down the deep state and you save America in just 10 steps, and under the China subheading, there's only Three bullet points.
But his broad, vague premises aside, if he's just going to try to lift what Donald Trump is doing, basically what the Chinese Communist Party does, if he's guilty of what he's accusing China of, doing intellectual property theft, it's not really even doing a good job.
And I have to say, if what he's really focusing on is the economic abuses, I would argue as I think this show always does, That is a symptom of a much broader problem, in part has to do with the foreign influence operations that we see going on here, which he mentions nothing about.
But I would think that he would say something about taxpayer dollars funding Chinese labs, or how our taxpayer dollars have really aided the rise of not just China's scientific advancement, but really their entire economic advancement, all industries.
All he says is just one throwaway line, so it really is curious.
I think, honestly, it's not even him talking.
Obviously, it's the consultant sort of using him in a Cyrano de Bergerac type situation, but I would still think that they would know that the MAGA base wants action wants actual steps to take.
And believe me, if it were easy enough to take the Chinese Communist Party down by just saying we need to take down the CCP, I think we say that about every segment on this show by playing a song.
It is yet to happen.
I'm sure it will one day.
But you need to lay out the steps.
And frankly, I think it just goes to show that he really is controlled opposition trying to use the MAGA vernacular, which frankly, I think shows how much more dangerous he is than a lot of these other candidates going after Trump, because there's a conscious effort to really to try to dupe the MAGA base by like using the words that we like, but not with good intention.
steve bannon
Oh Harvard Westlake would be so proud.
You had a major literary reference right in the middle of that.
That was so brilliant.
Where do people go?
Where do people go to get the newsletter, the email we put out, the website, all your social media?
Where do they go, Natalie?
natalie winters
Yes, when Harvard Westlake wasn't making me read genderqueer, we did read Cyrano de Bergerac.
If you want to follow me, you can find me at Natalie G. Winters on all platforms.
And of course, head over to the warroom.org website.
unidentified
Natalie, thank you so much.
steve bannon
Thank you for hanging out with us this morning.
Appreciate it.
Kerry Lake, you've had a filing.
I want to get to the administrative part first, because people every day are bugging me.
Where do we stand with Kerry Lake, you know, getting into the governor's office?
Walk me through this filing, the importance of it.
kari lake
Well, as you know, Steve, we have a whole bunch of different cases out there, and the one you're looking at that's on the screen is that one that deals with voter identity fraud or voter identity theft.
It's the request we made to take a look at those envelopes that the mail-in ballots are sent back in because we don't believe that the signatures match and we have good reason to believe that.
So we're gonna fight for the opportunity to look at the 2022 ballot envelopes, check whether those signatures match.
Now, the other side, Maricopa County, Stephen Richer, a total loser over there, he tried to prevent us from taking a look at this and the judge said, no, we're gonna let this go forward.
So what you're looking at is basically Brian Blem, my attorney, setting up, working to set up the actual date for us to do that.
And so we're gonna keep people posted.
That's a very important part.
We also have a multi...
It's not.
It's moving forward in the appellate court.
Also, you might remember the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
That's the original trial and the original case that we started right after the election.
And that is due by September 15th.
So for people who said that Carrie Lake's election case is gone, it's over, it's not.
It's moving forward in the appellate court.
Also, you might remember the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, it's federal court, is hearing oral arguments on that injunction we filed seven months before the election.
Remember I filed a case with Mark Fincham to try to stop the use?
of these electronic voting machines because they can be easily used to rig elections and they're not reliable.
And we had an Obama judge throw that out and try to sanction our attorneys.
Well, we are appealing that and I believe we will win in the appellate court.
This judge has been ruled against in the appellate court many times.
And then number three, as you know, because you've been following all of the hits, runs and errors of this corrupt elections.
We uncovered clear evidence through the past two trials, and even after the trial, showing that Maricopa County is repeatedly and deliberately violating election laws on chain of custody, signature verification, and especially the voting machines, which our injunction warned against.
So we are assessing additional legal action that we can take to shine a spotlight on that.
We want to prevent them, bottom line, from doing the same in 24.
So we have many cases out there.
They are all moving forward, and we don't intend to stop.
You know, the way they rigged this election, Steve, they knew it would be hard to track down the ways they did it.
It would take time, and they did not count on anybody.
Staying in this fight and continuing to dig.
They thought that we would give it maybe a little bit of a try and walk away.
And as we have continued to dig and as we have continued to fight, we have uncovered more and more and more revelations about how they are stealing elections from We The People.
We can never get out of the system we're in right now, which is a corrupt, rotten system.
We can't vote our way out of it if they are rigging elections.
And that's why I believe that these cases we have going right now are the most important cases in the country right now.
steve bannon
You are going to be at the Mike Lindell event in Missouri and we want everybody to go to that website.
We'll get it up right now to sign up so you can get the live stream because it's limited I think to officials only at the event itself and they're going to have a whole day of just all 50 states are going to make presentations of where we stand.
Where are you coming out right now, this huge fight we've got between, because a lot of people pointed to Kerry Lake as a perfect example of where you've got a ballot harvest and you've got to play by the rules the Democrats have set, because if you just wait to game day voting, you know, anything can happen.
They come in and stop it.
This is what so much of your lawsuits are about.
Where are you coming?
I understand, and I've told Mike, I said, hey, you're going to get a great chance to make the case because I think you could have millions of people watching this.
Where are you coming out right now?
On this, you know, the big argument, do you go and do what the Democrats are doing or do you take a hard line and try to work as crazy as possible and try to get the paper ballots in a game day vote?
kari lake
Well, I'm working really hard to get Election Day restored.
We've somehow slipped into election month.
We vote for a month, we count for two weeks or until they get the outcome they desire.
And that's not what our founding fathers envisioned when they fought for our right to choose our representation.
So we're working to get election day.
I understand what people are saying, though.
They say, well, we're in this rigged system.
We got to operate the way they do.
I think it's going to be really difficult for us to outmaneuver them because they're the ones who are printing the ballots.
They have access to a lot of the people who are cheating are the ones who have access to the actual machination in which to cheat.
So we can try to do what they're doing, but I think it's going to be very difficult.
And that's why I'm pushing in the courts now.
a year and three months before this election, we are pushing, pushing, pushing to get some reform.
I don't think it can happen legislatively in Arizona because unfortunately we have a fraud sitting in the governor's office who will never sign legislation.
This whole system is illegitimate.
I want to get to election day, but if for some reason we're unable to do that as we near the 24 election, I think we got to play in this rigged system and do what we have to do.
unidentified
But Steve, hang on.
kari lake
Between now and then, we have to get out and register every like-minded individual we can.
I was always surprised to hear, as the campaign was moving down the line, I'd get to see people who said, I'm not registered to vote, can you help me register?
We have people that you would never believe aren't registered to vote who aren't registered, so we've got to start asking people point-blank as we're talking to people.
steve bannon
There's 30 to 40 million evangelical Christians that are not registered to vote and don't really take part in the political process.
This is what I was going to ask you.
It's along these lines.
I think a lot of people in the country don't realize that you probably have a better feel for the grassroots throughout the country because you're a quasi-surrogate for President Trump.
You've been going, particularly to Iowa, Georgia, you've been going to these states Non-stop, and having events and meeting people, etc.
We're at people's heads right now because we're going to have Caroline on this afternoon to talk about the donors and this $200 million that's been put into these packs just to defeat Trump.
When all the numbers show that not just Trump, and here's the important number, not just is he dominating the primary, let's leave that aside.
The whole question of electability is thrown out the window because New York Times, Morning Consult, Harvard-Harris, poll after poll after poll shows him beating Joe Biden.
Chris Eliza just is in panic mode because he's going through the crosstabs on the New York Times Siena poll and he said, whoa, alert, red flash alert, Biden won Hispanics by 33 points in 2020.
He's only up three in 2024.
Part of that work is you, Carrie Laker, what you did in Arizona.
What's your sense of the grassroots about this whole primary?
Are they just focused on, let's get on with it, let's put the money into a ground game, let's put money into going after election fraud, let's come together and have a sweeping victory?
Or do we have any more time for this nonsense of this primary, ma'am?
kari lake
Well, we don't have time for it, but unfortunately this is the battle we have to fight right now.
We've got the deep state, Uniparty, Propping up some of these people who are trying to act like they're MAGA when they're not.
They're not America First.
They care about the donor class, not we the people.
President Trump is the one man in the race who represents we the people.
These others don't.
And that's what it's about.
I have been all over this country.
I have been to blue states.
I have been to red states.
And I'm telling you everywhere I go, people stop me and say, thank you for fighting.
We're with you.
We're with president Trump.
I was just in Portland, Oregon.
Okay.
Wrap your brain around this.
I was in Portland, Oregon.
I don't think you can get any more liberal than that.
I must've been stopped.
15 times in the airport.
In the airport alone.
Thank you for what you're doing.
We are so happy someone is still fighting.
If we don't get our elections turned around, our country's gone.
And you can take it from the people in Oregon.
They're not all crazy Antifa liberals.
There's a lot of really decent common sense folks there who are trapped, held hostage in a rigged voting system because they've gone all mail-in ballots.
This is what's coming to America if we don't stand up and fight.
Carrie, hang on for one second.
I just want to hold you through a quick break.
We can't vote our way out of this, Steve, when the elections are rigged.
unidentified
Carrie, hang on for one second.
steve bannon
I just want to hold you through a quick break.
Carrie Laker, join us on the other side.
unidentified
It's all started, everything's begun, and you are over.
Cause we're taking down the CCP.
Spread the word all through Hong Kong.
We will fight till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CCP.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann.
steve bannon
you you Kerry, when you say you've been going around, not just the battleground states and not just the blue states, which you have been, and Oregon is a great example, but you had a massive turnout out in Idaho, and the folks in Idaho, and particularly the Patriots up there, are second to none.
Tell us about that.
kari lake
Amazing.
By the way, you have a lot of posse, uh, war room posse members out there in Idaho.
Many of them said, say hi to Steve Bannon, tell him we really appreciate the work he's doing to inform us.
Um, we have almost a thousand people show up in not a, we didn't plan this way out.
The people of this country are motivated.
The grassroots are not going back to sleep.
And this is, I think what the, these other candidates who are running against the great president Trump.
Don't understand.
You can't pour millions in.
You're never going to put them back to sleep.
And I don't think they get that.
I've been watching some of the footage of Ron DeSantis in Iowa and New Hampshire.
He can't connect with people.
I don't know what's going on, what's wrong, but he can't connect with people.
And President Trump has connected with the people of this great country because they know he's been standing up, taking the hits for us every single day.
And they get it all around this country.
The people in the blue states want election reform.
They know President Trump was robbed in 2020.
He didn't lose.
And for Ron DeSantis to act like President Trump lost is an insult to every single American who's had their sacred vote trampled on by this uniparty deep state.
Our elections are a mess and for Ron DeSantis to try to sit there and act like everything was fair and square and Trump lost is insane.
I mean, the guy's either insane or he is, he's actually, we know what it is.
He's being controlled by the Uniparty.
He's their guy and they want to continue to rig elections.
And so to me, when he said that, when he's talking about how this was a loss for Trump in 2020, it was stolen, not from Trump.
It was stolen from we, the people.
And they better, they better wrap their brain around that because we, the people are tired of it.
steve bannon
Carrie Lake, you are a populist fire breather.
How do people follow this case?
People are very focused on your case for governor because, I gotta tell ya, Arizona is going in a very bad direction and this invasion of the southern border and Katie Hobbs, who's exacerbating it, only has bad things in store for the great citizens of a great state.
Where do people go to follow you, Carrie?
Not just social media, where do they go to the site, where do they get to the details?
As you know, we're a posse.
Loves granularity.
Where do they go?
kari lake
I know.
I need to actually get with my web guy and get all this up there because things are happening so quickly.
We need to get the filings and such on our website.
They're not there right now, but we'll work to get them there.
You can go to karylake.com.
Take a look at the short video we put out.
It just shows you what's on the line, and they're taking our sacred vote from us, and they're taking our country from us.
And what Joe Biden has planned for America and the world is what Katie Hobbs has planned for Arizona.
And this is why we keep looking up and seeing all these outrageous politicians in D.C., in state houses across the country, and we go, how the heck did they end up there?
Because we have corrupt elections and we must address this.
It is critical.
And so you can find me at CarrieLake.com or at Carrie Lake on Twitter, Getter, Truth Social, and all of the other places.
steve bannon
Carrie Lake, honored to have you on here, ma'am.
Thank you so much.
kari lake
Thank you, Steve.
Appreciate you.
steve bannon
Fight on.
Tonight at six, we're going to go through that Axios.
Remember the Axios piece about all these major things from nuclear weapons to artificial intelligence to climate change, the boiling earth, as they call it, that are existential threats to humankind.
We're going to have a group of experts on our contributors to go through in detail.
Also at five o'clock, we're going to have Mike Davis.
We're going to break down more about the About the law for assaults on President Trump and also the Biden crime family.
Caroline Wren is going to be to talk about this 200 almost a quarter of a billion dollars.
By neoliberal, neocon donors into the primaries to do nothing but stop Trump.
We need to come together and use that money now for ground game, for infrastructure, to fight the lawfare that Mark Elias and his team are putting up against us.
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