July 12, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| Okay, welcome. | ||
| It's Wednesday, 12 July in the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| Next hour we have Congressman Burchett on this NDAA fight. | ||
| We're going to get into the details of that, plus the one and only Bill Gertz. | ||
| He's going to join us about some stories he's been breaking at the Washington Times. | ||
| He's the most informed reporter, best source reporter over the last 20 or 30 years on the PLA and the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And we're going to have Bill here to go through everything on Xi's march to war. | ||
| Also today at the Hudson Institute, Kyle Bass, who folks know that we're very close to Kyle, who's not a right-winger, not a Trump supporter. | ||
| Actually, I believe he's a Democrat, but the smartest guy about the economic warfare. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party gave a talk at the Hudson Institute today, talked about the economic... | ||
| Benchmarks that Xi and the Chinese Communist Party are doing right now in the march to war. | ||
| They say Kyle Bass is predicting 12 to 18 months. | ||
| I'm going to ask Bill Gertz that question in the next hour. | ||
| Kyle Bass is saying 12 to 18 months for a kinetic war, Straits of Taiwan, Taiwan, South China Sea, naval blockade, air blockade, all of it. | ||
| And he walked through the economic indicators, talks about what they're doing with their currency, what they're doing with their companies, technology, etc. | ||
| Congressman Self joins us, a former colonel in the United States Army. | ||
| Colonel Self, you're just back, I think, from Taiwan. | ||
| People that are quite sophisticated, they're spending a lot of time on that, as we do. | ||
| I'm the only civilian in the history of the nation to be fully sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party three minutes or two minutes into the Biden campaign. | ||
| Something I wear as a badge of honor. | ||
| You've been there. Give us your assessment on this march. | ||
| Are we heading towards a kinetic conflict with the Chinese Communist Party and the PLA in Taiwan, sir? | ||
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I don't think necessarily so. | |
| I think that they are doing everything to isolate Taiwan, both economically and certainly diplomatically. | ||
| And they see the weakness in the Biden administration. | ||
| So this is their time, and I think they're taking the opportunity that they see to make as much progress economically and psychologically against the U.S. during this period where they have a very menial presence in the United States. | ||
| Do you think that the Biden regime has started to actually appease with Blinken's trip to China and then this kowtowing that Janet Yellen just did? | ||
| Do you think the administration's actually worse than weakness, but actually showing that we're a tributary state to the Chinese Communist Party? | ||
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Well, they're certainly kowtowing to them. | |
| Janet Yellen looked more like a chicken bobbing up and down. | ||
| It was not really a bow as much as a bob. | ||
| Multiple Bobs. | ||
| But yes, I think so. | ||
| When you see two cabinet-level secretaries travel to Communist China in two months, you know that we are trying to get on their good side. | ||
| We're trying to appease them. | ||
| Choose your words. | ||
| But it is not a good sign. | ||
| It's not a sign of strength. | ||
| And you know, remember that just before her trip, they restricted the export of germanium and gallium. | ||
| Which are two minerals that are used in the manufacture of semiconductors as well as other things. | ||
| So they know what it's like to send signals of strength, and they did exactly that. | ||
| Talk to us about that, because that's using rare earths. | ||
| We're actually going to have the Jace Medical guys on with Gertz in the next hour to talk about strategically even medical supplies. | ||
| I mean, they cut us off from PPE. They use everything they have strategically, and they know leverage points. | ||
| How serious, and particularly the Chinese, you know everything's about optics and symbolism. | ||
| They did that right before Yellen's visit and she still kowtowed to him. | ||
| How serious should people in our country take the cutoff of these minerals, these rare earths? | ||
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Well, we need to take it very seriously because rare earths are actually a misnomer. | |
| They're not that rare. | ||
| They're just not mined many places. | ||
| For instance, we have rare earths here in the United States. | ||
| It's very environmentally unfriendly to mine them anywhere in the world, and that's why we choose not to. | ||
| So again, we have put our future in the hands of the Chinese party, and that's something we've got to very seriously address and start to provide for ourselves again, as opposed to letting this climate Our agenda run everything. | ||
| Our environmental agenda run everything. | ||
| We've got to provide for ourselves. | ||
| John Kerry's heading over there now. | ||
| I mean, he's saying everything. | ||
| He's very blunt. | ||
| He said every other aspect of dealings we have with the Chinese Communist Party, whether it's economic warfare or anything that we have, is not as high as dealing with them to work out some partnership on climate change, of which they're the biggest polluter in the world. | ||
| So how do you look at the Biden regime's structure of even negotiations when climate change, their radical kind of medieval theology of climate change, this kind of pagan religion, is paramount to them? | ||
| And Kerry's quite blunt, and people tell you Kerry's got more stroke in the State Department than Tony Blinken does. | ||
| How does that sit with you? | ||
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Well, when you want to go back into the Paris Treaty, When you're ignoring India and China, which are the two largest polluters on the face of the Earth, and you're going to continue to punish American industry and American taxpayers and let them get away with polluting the world and beating ourselves up and costing us industry, costing us jobs, costing us wages, That makes no sense whatsoever. | |
| And I think the term I use is where they want to take the United States with all of their climate initiatives is called the 15th century, when you had no energy. | ||
| And energy is the very basis of industry, of comfort, of civilization. | ||
| We need more energy, not less energy. | ||
| Kyle Bass is predicting, given what they're doing financially to prepare for it, the Daily Telegraph on Saturday had the headline, China prepares for war. | ||
| You're of the opinion that we're not inexorably drawn into this kinetic conflict. | ||
| Walk us through your theory of the case, and do the Taiwanese, given your relationship, do the Taiwanese agree with you that this can be averted? | ||
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I will tell you that Taiwanese—and I did just return from a week-long trip there—the Taiwanese are very committed to their own defense. | |
| And one of the most encouraging things was the young Taiwanese do not consider themselves Chinese. | ||
| They consider themselves Taiwanese. | ||
| Now, that is an issue, I'm sure, with Xi Jinping, because He sees this island of 23 million people, very financially successful, very secure, high wages. | ||
| The world depends on Taiwan for chips, if nothing else. | ||
| And yet, his 1.3 billion people are not as successfully overall. | ||
| Yeah, they've got their rich in their building, their military, really fast. | ||
| But that's got to stick in his craw. | ||
| So I think that he sees it. | ||
| I think that he's a short window. | ||
| Whether it's the Biden administration or whether it's five years from now, most people say that they will be ready to invade, capable of invading with amphibious force no later than 2027. | ||
| But I just learned that the beaches on the west side of Taiwan are only battalion-sized. | ||
| You can't put a major force ashore if the beaches are only battalion-sized beaches. | ||
| It's more complex than most people realize. | ||
| Compare that for our audience. | ||
| Compare that to Normandy or compare that to Terawa or Peleliu, any of the other things that Americans think of when they think of amphibious landings. | ||
| What would they compare to the small Taiwan beaches of battalion size? | ||
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How would they compare? Normandy, over four beaches, four main beaches, we put 200,000 people ashore, 200,000 men ashore in a very short period of time, with many more following. | |
| So there is no comparison. | ||
| So if they do airborne air assault forces, those are too light, they're too small. | ||
| The amphibious forces—I had a disagreement with a couple of active duty officers in the American Institute in Taiwan, which basically functions as our embassy, about a blockade of Taiwan. | ||
| The one strategic advantage that China has over the U.S. in the Pacific today is distance, just the vast distances across the Pacific. | ||
| But if they blockade, if they try to blockade Taiwan, I believe that we would start moving men and equipment across the Pacific, and they would lose that strategic advantage of distance. | ||
| So I'm not sure blockade makes a lot of sense. | ||
| I think probably, and I've asked this, and apparently they are thinking about this, putting a million men on cargo ships, rolling them, protecting them as they go into the harbor, and simply marching them off the ship onto Taipei. | ||
| Are one of the major cities. | ||
| So I think we've got to start thinking outside the box like the Chinese are. | ||
| How are we going to defeat them before they can get there? | ||
| But that takes warning. That takes early warning. | ||
| But I think that if we think about this properly, if we put the right assets in place, we can continue to deter China. | ||
| Do you think we have—the last two questions, one this and the other, the NDA—do you think you see the political will in the Biden group to actually breach a naval blockade if it was to happen? | ||
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That's a great question. | |
| Now, President Biden has recently gone further than the U.S. policy by saying we would defend Taiwan, and I think he said it like four times. | ||
| So one has to wonder, if he's serious about that, you have to wonder if we do have that initiative, would we make that decision? | ||
| Because that would be a very hard decision for the administration to make. | ||
| My feeling, my going in estimate would be no, but given the president's four times I think he said we would defend Taiwan, you have to ask, would we? | ||
| Yeah. Last question. | ||
| People look to you as one of the experts. | ||
| Our audience, the activist MAGA audience throughout the country is outraged about what they're hearing about all the wokeness that's still in this NDAA. What's your sense of how this is going to get worked out? | ||
| When they hear these amendments, they say, well, if it's an amendment, that means it's already in the core document. | ||
| The question they've got is, how did this happen? | ||
| We're supposed to be in control. | ||
| How did this National Defense Authorization Act have all this wokeness still in it, Colonel? | ||
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Well, I've received two briefings today on the NDA, just today, and I have not—obviously haven't looked at the NDAA in detail, but supposedly much of the wokeness has been taken out, and I've seen a list of what we are taking out. | |
| There are other things that are not in the base document that are going to be amendments, such as the abortion travel and DOA. So there are other things that are not in the base document that also concern me. | ||
| So it's not clean, but according to the briefings that I got today, much of the wokeness has been stripped out of it. | ||
| Congressman, how do people follow you on social media and how do they get to your website to learn more about you and what you're working on? | ||
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Most of the social media is the same. | |
| It's Rep, Keith, Self, the various ways you do that. | ||
| And then it's at keithself.house.gov. | ||
| You can sign up for my weekly newsletter. | ||
| I would love to keep you up to date. | ||
| And I certainly appreciate the opportunity. | ||
| Colonel Self, always, particularly when it comes to matters of war and peace, you're someone we look to. | ||
| So thank you very much for joining us here in the War Room. | ||
| You talk about war and peace. | ||
| You talk about the Wall Street Journal's piece we talked about last week about cyber warfare and biological warfare. | ||
| There was a hearing yesterday that is, quite frankly, stunning that we're having it in, what, July of 2023. | ||
| Natalie Winters, who has followed this closely for several years, is going to join us on the other side. | ||
| Because we're taking down the CCP On your hearings, have you guys considered subpoenaing or getting in Miles Guo, who says he has information on how this happened? | ||
| Is that a potential witness for you? | ||
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calling them experts, we're calling them people we think that have been caught in a lie. | |
| We've called them people that have evidence, and we're going to call them people that are literally the epicenter of what we think was done wrong in government. | ||
| So everything's on the table right now. | ||
| There's going to be doctors called in who treat patients that have been unfairly treated because it didn't match what the government said to do. | ||
| We want to basically debunk the way the government went after this in very real ways so that the government doesn't do this again. | ||
| That's the ultimate reason we're doing this is to make sure we don't repeat the mistakes that we've done before. | ||
| And that the next time something like this happens, and it will happen, that we can do it better. | ||
| Think about this. There was a recent James Bond movie. | ||
| I'm a big James Bond fan. | ||
| That showed a designer virus that went after a certain genetic. | ||
| To me, because we were on this 20 January 2023, and you, I don't want to say you were still in high school. | ||
| I think you might have. | ||
| I think it might have been your last year. | ||
| No, you went to University of Chicago like in two and a half years, so maybe it was your freshman year of college. | ||
| But you were on this in detail. | ||
| Just get the audience up to date. | ||
| What actually happened yesterday that's so jaw-dropping, ma'am? | ||
| Sure. So yesterday, I think the warm audience gets the sense of deja vu because you guys are so ahead of the curve in terms of the origins of COVID. But what at least the subcommittee on COVID origins and more broadly the coronavirus pandemic is really getting to the bottom of? | ||
| I usually use the term cover-up, but I think that's too euphemistic because what we're learning is that it was a whole-scale, really whole-of-government, in some cases whole-of-society propaganda campaign that was perpetrated on this country when it comes to the origins of COVID. So you have a couple parallel tracks going on here when it comes to the stories about COVID. One is how intimately the National Institutes of Health, | ||
| particularly Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins, colluded with allegedly independent scientists To go out there and get ahead of this lab leak theory. | ||
| And if you read the testimony, this hearing that you're talking about, a lot of the information you can find, like I said, go to the subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic. | ||
| You can see that the primary concern that these scientists had when they were publishing papers about tracing the origins of COVID was not science, was not the truth. | ||
| It was not even public health. | ||
| It was not angering the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And that's not a stretch. | ||
| That's not me being hyperbolic. | ||
| You can literally see they say their primary and foremost concern is that they do not want to enrage China because they could only imagine the anti-quote S—if It's an explicit show that would ensue if they were to attribute any blame to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So that's sort of the framing that we have going on here in the sense that there really was a full-scale propaganda campaign to dissuade people from believing in the lab origins of COVID. But why? | ||
| I think in some ways the fact that there was this massive pressure campaign, in some ways I think it actually paradoxically proves That the war room, the stuff that we've been saying for years now, was correct. | ||
| Because if these theories didn't have any value, if they didn't hold any weight, you wouldn't have needed to throw the entire weight and forces of the federal government and millions, tens of millions of taxpayer dollars behind it to sort of create these astroturfed Studies. | ||
| So, the simplest way that I sort of piece it together is that scientists much smarter than me, those who don't have ties to the Chinese Communist Party, have all come out and said that the genomic sequence of the virus is not natural. | ||
| It does not have natural origins the way it replicates in humans. | ||
| It is really indicative of gain-of-function research. | ||
| Now, when you put the political lens on that, given the fact that the Wuhan Institute of Virology is intimately involved and under control of China's People's Liberation Army, And that this lab was carrying out programs to artificially create bat coronaviruses that were more lethal and unnaturally deadly to humans. | ||
| There's just too many coincidences for it not to be natural origins. | ||
| So I want to make sure—and by the way, you're going to have Gerson. | ||
| No, this is— And from our morning show about the loss of faith in our institutions. | ||
| This may be the most egregious violation of the trust of the American people in the history of our country. | ||
| People go back and there are plausible cases about our entry into World War I and our entry into World War II and how the American people may or may not have been manipulated. | ||
| In the situation in the Pacific, what I said, we not only broke the diplomatic codes, what a lot of people don't realize, we also broke the naval codes of the Japanese Imperial Navy. | ||
| There's a lot of discussion about 9-11 and all that. | ||
| All of that combined, and I have, you know, pride myself in being a student of all that. | ||
| What occurred yesterday It's so shocking and it's kind of shunted off to the side. | ||
| It gets to the heart of what the problem is in this nation. | ||
| It gets to the heart of what we had responsible for. | ||
| All the manifestation of this in the polling, that people have lost confidence in the institutions in this nation, the grilling that Ray took today and just the even almost nonchalant attitude about him not even reading documents and just giving this complete spin like these congressmen don't even matter. | ||
| Everything we know now about, you know, Kyle Bass has this amazing report he gave out to Hudson about what the Chinese Communist Party is doing financially and economically to prepare for a kinetic war. | ||
| The Wall Street Journal's report last week that World War III could be over in an instant, the kinetic part of it, because you get hit with biological and cyber weapons and boom, it's over. | ||
| To know this and to think about, and particularly for the people who have taken the journey with us, For more of impeachment, and when we transitioned, remember, we were the first organization to do this, and quite frankly, because of Miles Guo and our knowledge, my own personal knowledge, but more importantly, the whistleblowers and Miles and everybody had deep relationships into China that something was seriously wrong starting around, | ||
| at least around New Year's Eve, Of 2019 and then the canceling of Chinese New Years and the first time in Chinese cultural history the canceling of Chinese New Years on the 15th of January of 2020. | ||
| And if you go back and look at this and all the stuff we did at the Wuhan lab and Rahim who had just stood up National Pulse and had a college kid named Natalie Winters and if you think of what her reporting was at that time and we were mocked and ridiculed and she was mocked and not just that we were taken down I think YouTube the first we've been banned everywhere. | ||
| One of the central reasons we were banned early on was, oh, these conspiracy theorists around the Wuhan lab. | ||
| And now it's coming out. | ||
| And this is why when Collins and Fauci left, it was coming out that they're number one. | ||
| And you have to go back in time. | ||
| You must put yourself back in the early days of this pandemic when information was very sketchy. | ||
| And I think we looked at it very clearly. | ||
| People didn't know how serious it could be. | ||
| Didn't know how serious it could be. | ||
| But that the emphasis of the people you place your trust in, as Natalie goes through, is not public health, is not the good of the nation, is not good of the nation's citizens, is not even the good of the Chinese citizens, of the Chinese citizens around Wuhan lab itself. | ||
| Their single and sole purpose Was to figure out how not to anger the Chinese Communist Party, the people in charge. | ||
| Think about that for a second. | ||
| Go back in time to the winter and early spring of 2020. | ||
| When we started bringing these things up and like gain of function, all this, and Natalie started piecemeal putting together the connections, the connective tissue through Peter Daszak and all the reporting she did. | ||
| On the other side, and it just came out on the other side, they're actively working to suppress it. | ||
| And why are they working to suppress it? | ||
| Because they don't want to anger the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Natalie Winters, you were there. | ||
| In fact, you're reporting, and that's what I was thinking of yesterday, it was coming up. | ||
| All the abuse Rahim went through and you in the war room and taken off platforms, all of it. | ||
| You see this report from the federal judge, but quite frankly, as bad as that is, the FBI coming and trying to push people, I hate to use the word bullying, even strong-arming, it pales in comparison to what we heard yesterday, ma'am. | ||
| Well, I think we can even extrapolate and go further, go more meta, because I think this instance really provides insight into how our ruling class operates when it comes to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And what I mean by that is that the reason that they were so adamant and so staunch in defending China and how they acted when it came to COVID, part of it was for levels of personal compromise, but it's also because the Chinese Communist Party really is the centerpiece of their globalist economic model, right? | ||
| The outsourcing of American factories, the gutting of American industry, the kind of new world economic order that they want. | ||
| It doesn't work if the Chinese Communist Party isn't in power and can't subjugate their own people to work basically in slave labor conditions. | ||
| And, of course, the Chinese Communist Party and their totalitarian sort of technocratic state capitalism that they have implemented there. | ||
| They need that to be a success story, right? | ||
| It's just like Klaus Schwab says, Xi Jinping is a great leader, and the way that China runs themselves and administers the country should be a blueprint and a role model for everyone else. | ||
| So they're not going to criticize or really threaten the legitimacy of the ruling regime that they so desperately look up to. | ||
| And, frankly, I think what's important to remember about all this COVID stuff—obviously, this is what I do, right? | ||
| I focus on Chinese Communist Party infiltration. | ||
| I think the American people have grasped very easily the levels of deception that the CCP engaged in when it came to the origins of COVID. But make no mistake, they're playing these same games of deception on every single issue, whether it's in the mainstream media, in academia, think tanks, in politics. | ||
| And there's no better example of this, even though the indictment is, of course, meant to intimidate whistleblowers against the Biden family. | ||
| If you piece through it, the admission in the Gao-Luft indictment is that the Chinese Communist Party was actively seeking to influence the policy outcomes of the Trump administration. | ||
| They were trying to embed people. | ||
| And that, I think, is the framework that you have to look through this COVID-19 incident from. | ||
| If they're trying to infiltrate the Trump administration, you're telling me the CCP hasn't infiltrated the NIH, too? | ||
| They certainly have. | ||
| Hang on one second, because you're to the heart of the matter. | ||
| Natalie Winters is going to join us on the other side. | ||
| We also have Ben Harnwell on the fiasco regarding the Ukraine. | ||
| All next in the War Room. Okay, welcome back. Natalie, I want you to hang with me. | ||
| I want to get Harnwell up here from Rome in a second, but I want to go back to something that you, and this is why you're so great, you just absolutely nailed the main thing about that indictment that the mainstream media has kind of missed, right? It's about how they operate. | ||
| Also, And this is why in the indictment, I don't know how they think this helps the Biden regime because they're trying to shut down, obviously, the dual American-Israeli citizen. | ||
| I think it's Colonel Gail Luft. | ||
| The name Patrick Ho is in, Patrick Ho is the key guy. | ||
| Hello? Correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
| Patrick Ho is the original partner, along with the chairman of CEFC, that Hunter Biden's – all the emails, everything back and forth with Hunter is with Patrick Ho. | ||
| In fact, I think one of the long, tough phone calls that he recorded of himself – I don't know how the Biden regime and how the Justice Department think that's going to get... | ||
| We're going to protect the Biden family. | ||
| Am I missing it? But Patrick Ho, central to the Biden crime family, the compromise with the CCP. I don't know how putting him in the Gail Luft indictment is going to get these guys off the hook. | ||
| And clearly, Wolsey, I was in charge of the China situation in transition in the first year. | ||
| And putting together to go after him, right? | ||
| And in fact, we took the call from Taiwan. | ||
| That's where the whole senior delegation, Tiger Yang and those guys came over to General Flynn, Peter Navarro, to, you know, Jared Kushner and myself. | ||
| And, you know, for two days, we kind of sat in a room and, you know, glared at each other. | ||
| You see, Wolsey was a non-event. | ||
| To me, he was totally compromised anyway from the Clinton years. | ||
| But they paid him $6,000 a month. | ||
| But how do they think this is going to make him look better when Patrick Ho is a centerpiece for what they say is this plot to try to compromise the Trump administration? | ||
| Man. Yeah, perhaps the most, I think, bald-faced lie that the Biden regime really has ever engaged in, and that says a lot. | ||
| But reading this indictment, right, they're mad that Gail Luft didn't register as a foreign agent while liaising with CEFC China Energy. | ||
| Anytime you hear stories about Hunter Biden and the Biden family getting wire transfers from the Chinese Communist Party, Well over half of them are coming from that same exact entity, CEFC China Energy, and you bring up that audio recording. | ||
| That was something that Rahim Qasam and I unearthed however many years ago, where he says, I'm in business with the effing spy chief of China alluding to Patrick Ho. | ||
| So it's a textbook example of accusing your enemies of what you're guilty of. | ||
| I'm not exactly sure what they think they're accomplishing with this, but I want to extract or rather step back because The story of CEFC China Energy is also a lot more than just the Biden regime. | ||
| And what I mean by that, this is a group, a charity, they had a charitable arm, that had been granted special consultative status from the United Nations and worked very closely with the UN. So when you talk about how far Chinese Communist Party compromise goes, and you just sort of use CEFC China Energy as a litmus test, you can see it. | ||
| And there's so many people who now work in the Biden regime. | ||
| There's people who have worked in the CIA. There's people from all walks of life who were giving talks at CEFC China energy events. | ||
| So the Biden regime better indict every single one of those people because none of them registered with Farrah. | ||
| And if they want to start with someone, they should start with their very own person that they dubbed their Asia czar. | ||
| And that's Kurt Campbell, who spoke at these same exact events that Gail Luff did. | ||
| Only difference is that Gayle left had the nerve to come out and speak about what Hunter Biden was doing. | ||
| This audience, and this is what we pride ourselves in, particularly this area, because this is the most important thing we're fighting against the administrative state. | ||
| You are so far up. The reason that they put that out there to the mainstream, to the people on the left and MSNBC and CNN, you'd have to sit down for a couple hours to explain this. | ||
| These are things that you guys have known and we've reported for over three years. | ||
| This audience is so much up to speed. | ||
| Yeah, I remember Patrick Cohen. I remember when Raheem and Natalie came on in 2020 and talked about this, all of it, with the laptop from hell. | ||
| And it's important that you are ahead of it, because this is going to get to be huge. | ||
| Remember, the head of CAFC, the young guy, he was on the board at the Lincoln Center. | ||
| That not-for-profit, they had him spreading money all over to every elite organization in New York City. | ||
| He became kind of a social butterfly. | ||
| So this is going to be, and you're right, if you put the same standards they're putting on Gayle Loft, we're saying, hey, go for it. | ||
| Let's put that same standard on everybody else in the Biden regime, and you're going to have like a thousand names pop up with felony indictments. | ||
| No, this is, real quickly, because the Ukraine thing is just this in a minor key. | ||
| Given what you've seen, I mean, how do you actually sort this out? | ||
| Not how we continue the investigation. | ||
| I don't know how we do this. But it's so deeply embedded to corruption, and this is why we had Rasmussen on today, that the American people understanding this and starting to become aware of it, Just are kind of done with these institutions because they realize that they have lied to them and they've stolen from them and they've worked against their interests. | ||
| Think about it. You've had these professionals that their most important thing is not to upset The most brutal dictators since Hitler's Nazis. | ||
| Not caring about public health, not caring about U.S. officials, not caring about the Chinese people, not caring about medicine or science or anything they hold up, the data, right? | ||
| But caring about that. How do you, how could you, what would you have to do, do you believe, to right this ship? | ||
| And, you know, by the way, Steve, it's CEFC China energy. | ||
| And when you try to look at one of the areas that the Biden regime has been really the most America last, almost to a point where you can't even reconcile it with reality, it's been on energy and the green energy pushed. | ||
| And I think that's the example right there. | ||
| All of these policy initiatives that the Biden regime are pushing, it's not actually about the issue itself. | ||
| They're so compromised, they couldn't even actually be America first if they had a change of heart and wanted to. | ||
| The answer, if you remember in our glowing New York Times profile, where we were the top spreaders of misinformation, the quote that they put in there for me was saying that the takeaway from War Room is that you shouldn't trust the institution's And they mocked us for saying that. | ||
| I was like, I actually think the New York Times made us look pretty good. | ||
| But you just have to keep watching shows like War Room. | ||
| I don't know what the answer is. It's certainly not letting Biden have a second term. | ||
| But it's just understanding that all of this is part of a broader PSYOP, and at the end of the day, their ultimate goal It's to defend the Chinese Communist Party, in part because they're compromised, but more so because they wish that they had the totalitarian, authoritarian control tactics that they could roll out on the people here. | ||
| And frankly, with what we're seeing from those lawsuits in terms of what the social media companies are doing, what they're doing when it comes to elections, vaccines, mask mandates, the gender stuff, you name it, frankly, they are acting like the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Natalie, hang on for a second. | ||
| I want to go to Rome and Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Ben, we didn't have the connection this morning, but I think a total fiasco in Lithuania, the capital of Lithuania. | ||
| But one thing I don't think got across the audience because we couldn't get the connection. | ||
| Was there any briefing? | ||
| Was there anything that came out and actually talked about the current military status of the spring offensive that everything was supposed to be predicated upon and now we're sending cluster bombs over for her? | ||
| No, Steve, there's simply no mention of the spring offensive, the counter-offensive, call it what you will, that the main congratulatory tone of the summit has been the lack now, the lack of a promised veto by President Erdogan of Turkey, | ||
| the newly re-elected president, newly empowered president of Turkey, who had said he was going to block Sweden's entry into NATO, unless Turkey itself was allowed into the European Union, two separate, obviously, international institutions there. | ||
| And that didn't take place on the eve of the NATO summit, as we discussed here on the war room. | ||
| Erdogan was bought off by the promise of US fighter jets, and that seemed to assuage his He's unwinningless to let Sweden in. | ||
| And that's basically the tone. | ||
| That was really what the summit has been trumpeting as their significant achievement. | ||
| And in fact, it is really the achievement, because with regards to Ukraine, all we have on the Ukraine front is really a very visible... | ||
| Understanding now of just how split the alliance is down the middle with regards to Ukraine and what sort of support the West should be giving it. | ||
| Originally, and we spent like a year and a half on this, it was really President Biden who was pushing and bullying and cajoling and twisting thumbscrews onto the European nations to put maximum pressure on Russia and maximum support. | ||
| To Ukraine. | ||
| And it was a message of constant escalation. | ||
| I think now, really, Biden has set off forces which he's no longer able to control. | ||
| But it's basically him and, to a lesser degree, Germany now, that are the significant forces who don't think that Ukraine should join NATO. Not at the moment, at any rate. | ||
| Not whilst it's still in war. | ||
| And it's the East, especially the Eastern accession countries, Lithuania, Poland, or what have you, who are saying that Ukraine should join, should join now, should become a member of Eden now, and obviously therefore kicking into action the famous and principled Article 5 for mutual support, | ||
| because they can do this, they can say this, because they know that the American taxpayer is going to be underwriting it. | ||
| So that's really what we learned. | ||
| We've learned just how split now. | ||
| Basically, because the US pushed a position for 18 months. | ||
| Now it wants to back off. | ||
| I think probably used to domestic political pressure that's building in the States against this. | ||
| And of course, some of these trends that Biden pushed in motion, he's not able to rein in. | ||
| And that's the situation. | ||
| And because of this ambiguity and the lack of confusion, the lack of clarity as to where people stand, it was basically popcorn over the last 48 hours. | ||
| People were just sitting open-mouthed, watching a somewhat queeny hissy face on behalf of We're good to go. | ||
| I'm going to read the quote directly. | ||
| Sullivan said, when asked to a question by an important Ukrainian anti-corruption campaigner, he said this. | ||
| He said, I think the American people do deserve a degree of gratitude from the United States government for their willingness, I'd say, the American people's willingness to step up And from the rest of the world as well. | ||
| I'd say that the American people deserves a degree of gratitude from the rest of the world as well. | ||
| And there's only one way, Steve, that that message can be read, and that is as a specific slapdown to President Zelensky. | ||
| Now, I'm going to call on Denver if... | ||
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| I want to hold that just after the break. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. You've got Natalie. | ||
| Geopolitics is taking us today because you can tell we're on the path to a kinetic war in Taiwan with the Chinese Communist Party, and we're escalating a war that should be brought to an end immediately in the Ukraine. | ||
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We're gonna be back in the warm in just a moment Oh Everything's just beginning for the games you want to play Bring it on and I will fight to the end just watch and see it's all started Everything's begun and you are over Cuz we're taking down the CCP Spread the word all through Hong Kong | |
| We will fight till they're all gone We rejoice when there is no more. Let's take down the CCP Here's your host Stephen K band Welcome back Ben, you've got the photo that I think says it all. | ||
| Describe to our audience, particularly our podcast and radio audience, why this photograph is so important. | ||
| Steve, they say pictures say a thousand words. | ||
| This is a picture there of the heads of government and heads of state of the 31 NATO countries that are gathered in Vilnius, the capital of Lithuania. | ||
| This is what they call the family photo, basically, when they all get together. | ||
| And we can see there, right at the centre, is President Zelensky on his own. | ||
| Nobody is talking to him. | ||
| Now, I did check, because it seems so unusual, I checked to see whether there was actually a real photo, whether it had been photoshopped. | ||
| It is a real photo. | ||
| It is a real photo. The context, if I may say, this is what the other side will say, His wife had momentarily stepped away from him to say hello. | ||
| I think it's to Macron's wife, mother, that she turned away to greet. | ||
| But he's there left on his own and nobody's making eye contact with him. | ||
| No one's even looking at him. And this is what we had billed for the last two weeks as Ukraine's entry into NATO summit. | ||
| The supposed star of the show. | ||
| He even came a day early after saying he wasn't sure whether he was going to show up. | ||
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| When he was doing his punk routine, he actually flew in a whole day early in order to, I think probably because he realised this approach was no longer going down very well. | ||
| And there he is amongst all the leaders and their wives. | ||
| And no one is, you know, just absolute irrelevance. | ||
| I would suggest that that photo is, it is the moment When future historians looking back on the development of the Ukraine war will say this is when the tide turns. | ||
| And there's something, I think, in this photo really that shows just how isolated President Zelensky has made himself by the way he, by his own way of treating and talking down to other heads of state, including, of course, to President Biden. | ||
| Now, what I just quickly want to mention, Steve, is the communique. | ||
| Which was published in the name of the 31 members, and as it says at the top, with the consent of Ukraine. | ||
| Now, this is interesting, because what it says, famously, of course, famously, not only has Ukraine He's not been made a member of the Alliance. | ||
| He's not even been invited to become a member of the Alliance. | ||
| There's no timetable. | ||
| And that's how we really know something is happening here. | ||
| Because even though they're sort of patting one another on the back, the fact that Ukraine has Obtained so little is, I think, illustrative for those who are watching very closely to realize something has changed in the dynamic of this war. | ||
| And here's what the communique says. | ||
| It says that Ukraine will join eventually when allies agree and conditions are met. | ||
| There's no details of when or even if Kyiv would meet such conditions. | ||
| And here's the point, Steve. | ||
| When allies agree, Which raises a certain question behind the scenes, behind closed doors, is it not the case that all allies have agreed, even on eventual membership, even when the war has concluded, and when conditions are met? | ||
| What conditions, Steve? | ||
| What conditions are we talking about? | ||
| Who's going to decide what those conditions are? | ||
| These are fundamental questions. | ||
| And, of course, we don't know. | ||
| I think that's just deliberately there, I think, deliberately vague to give the alliance whatever wiggle room it's hoping for in order, because this is principally the cause of the war, when both sides sit down at the negotiating table The whole direction and financing of this is part of the NDAA. Congressman Birchett is going to join us in the next hour to talk about this. | ||
| Ben, how do people get the exclusive content you're putting up in the newsletter? | ||
| How do they get to you on social media? | ||
| Thank you, Steve. Yeah, the newsletter is warroom.org. | ||
| Folks, you need to go on to our fantastic website and simply insert your email address, and then you'll get exclusive articles written by myself, by Jo Allen, and also on Getter, where my profile is simply my surname. | ||
| That's at Harnwell. | ||
| Steve, you know, you've had a couple of congressmen on the show today talking about Ukraine. | ||
| I would like to throw in something for a potential negotiating position for the United States to have with regards to NATO. And that is, members of the alliance should not be allowed to vote to open up membership to other countries unless they have fulfilled their 2% Spending commitments, because otherwise it's a farce. | ||
| But I'll just say that now and then close and hand over. | ||
| Brilliant. Brilliant. | ||
| Brilliant. Brilliant. We'll drill down on that in the days to come. | ||
| Absolutely brilliant. Ben Harnwell, your coverage has been extraordinary. | ||
| Thank you for joining us from Rome. | ||
| God bless, Steve. Natalie, I've got about a minute. | ||
| When has Ukraine become a bigger part of this on this investigation into not just Biden, but the entire apparatus, is your belief? | ||
| When do these converge? | ||
| The kowtowing and the corruption and influence peddling by the Chinese Communist Party, but also there's something not right with this Ukrainian situation. | ||
| There's just something not right. | ||
| It's much deeper than Burisma. | ||
| Your thoughts? How about we start with the bio labs that a technology firm that Hunter Biden was invested in was getting government contracts, your taxpayer dollars, to work on deadly pathogens like the bubonic plague, anthrax, and things that are a lot more lethal than COVID-19. | ||
| And when we called them out on that, we got called Russian disinformation agents. | ||
| So I guess that means We were spreading the truth. | ||
| But that's where I'd start to look. | ||
| And then maybe we can look at all the money laundering going on and how the Biden regime is, I'm sure, getting some wonderful kickbacks from that. | ||
| They probably realize the Chinese Communist Party character isn't going to work after Joe Biden loses again. | ||
| So they're going to need some other way to make money. | ||
| That's where I'd start looking. | ||
| And Natalie, how do people get to you on social media? | ||
| By the way, Star turned the other day on Tim Pool. | ||
| How did they get to you on social media? | ||
| How did they get to all your exclusive content on the site? | ||
| Thank you so much, and thank you for always giving me a platform to share my stories, even when I'm called a Russian troll. | ||
| But you can find me at Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms. | ||
| And we went through the whole show. | ||
| We didn't pick on Barbie once or Coco Chanel. | ||
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| Natalie, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back. Congressman Tim Burchett from Tennessee. | ||
| We're going to talk about the National Defense Authorization fiasco and the spending and the budget and all of us. | ||
| Of course, the great Bill Gertz is going to join us. | ||
| War. We are inexorably drawn into what looks like a kinetic conflict with the CCP. All of that next in the war room. | ||
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