July 12, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room. Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| It's Wednesday, 12 July in the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| Quite a day. I want to bring in Congressman Tim Burchett, who's been one of the real hawks on spending. | ||
| Congressman, can you get us up to speed and just explain this whole National Defense Authorization Act? | ||
| We've been all over this. | ||
| Not only has it set the framework for, I don't know, a $900 billion to a trillion dollar defense budget, it looks like it bakes in all the woke and weaponized Well, that's been one of the major concerns that we've had on the conservative end of our party, of course. And, you know, we're in control. | ||
| Why are we having to put amendments in there to take it out? | ||
| Why are we just not, just don't have it in there, is my big concern. | ||
| Because if you have an amendment to take it out, that means that it's in there. | ||
| And then if it's in there, you know as well as I do, it's in one area, it's in another area. | ||
| And the way the lawyers do, you have to have something very specific, and they always figure out a way to get around it. | ||
| And I've had a lot of concerns about that. | ||
| And I'm not seeing a lot of movement from leadership in that direction. | ||
| So maybe I've missed something. | ||
| In the translation, but that's kind of where I'm at. | ||
| I'll be a no vote if it was today. | ||
| You come from one of the more patriotic parts of the country. | ||
| It's not that we don't want defense spending. | ||
| We understand the military's got to be financed. | ||
| It's not about that, though, is it, in this? | ||
| No, it's not. And the people that I represent understand that. | ||
| It's, yeah, we should be paying our military more. | ||
| Yes, we should be prepared. | ||
| We should have the best, most high-tech military in the world. | ||
| But what they're doing right now is not, in my opinion, is not doing that. | ||
| We've got some people that are putting their back door in us, so to speak, on some issues, and they're putting things in there that shouldn't be in there. | ||
| And the people understand that because the Pentagon's always the sacred cow. | ||
| But if you look at the Department of Defense, I mean, They don't do anything. | ||
| They just push pencils. | ||
| They're bigger than the Department of the Navy, for goodness sakes. | ||
| So I just think we've really got the cart before the horse on this thing, and it needs a complete overhaul. | ||
| And I suspect a lot of it has to do with spending in certain people's districts and things like it always has been. | ||
| But honestly, Mr. | ||
| Bannon, we are $32 trillion in debt and this woke stuff is going to get us killed. | ||
| It's going to get a lot of boys and girls killed if we go to war. | ||
| Congressman, we had Rasmussen on today who was just going through the last couple days we've been going through the managed decline of our country as it is manifested in polling that the American people see this. | ||
| The discussion of institutions is in a collapse. | ||
| The morning show we focused on and actually took live segments from the FBI director's testimony and kind of grilling under people like Andy Biggs, under people like Matt Gaetz, under people like Jim Jordan. | ||
| And you saw the obfuscation and the spin and just not answering direct questions on fundamental things. | ||
| How many federal agents were there for J-6? | ||
| Why are you attacking traditional Catholic churches as breeding grounds for domestic terrorism? | ||
| Are you running a protection racket? | ||
| Quoting the report, are you running a protection racket for the Biden family? | ||
| The biggest one, the federal judges from, I think, Louisiana, this stunning opinion he gave, and the FBI director said he hadn't even read it. | ||
| And they're going through chapter and verse. | ||
| People are losing confidence. | ||
| Then they see the conservative party Something as fundamental to the government and to the process as the National Defense Authorization Act. | ||
| And they hear about all this wokeness and people are sitting there. | ||
| This is the way that a population just turns against all of it. | ||
| And we're in charge. | ||
| And you're looked at as one of the leaders. | ||
| Whether you're in leadership or not, I can tell you from this vast audience we have on this show of activists, you're considered one of the leaders. | ||
| So what is to be done about this? | ||
| Because we're very much on the cusp of the American people just losing faith in all of it, sir. | ||
| Well, I'm losing faith in all of it, too, honestly. | ||
| It's ridiculous, really, that we're even having this conversation among Educated Americans that we need to specifically say that we can't have drag shows, things like that. And we know our military, the leadership or so-called leadership is pushing this agenda. | ||
| But I think we need to remember we need to get some guts. | ||
| That's what we need to do, Mr. | ||
| Bannon. I mean, honestly, we've got to get some guts and we've got to say, hey, we're going to cut y'all's money off. | ||
| We're tired of it. You all are not acting in faith. | ||
| None of these agencies are. | ||
| And they're just overrun. | ||
| It didn't happen overnight, but it sure as hell feels like it all of a sudden. | ||
| Because they have, from the FBI, Department of Justice, Department of Defense, all of them, they won't give you a straight answer. | ||
| And so fine. | ||
| I just say cut their money off until they come to the table. | ||
| That's what we can do. | ||
| But we don't have the guts to do it. | ||
| We just don't have the guts to do it. | ||
| Well, let's talk about that. Why is the conference – I know you guys – I think you met this morning or yesterday morning. | ||
| Why is the conference not united around something that's so fundamental, so basic, and quite frankly that 95 percent of their voters not just support but actually demand? | ||
| That's why I think the disconnect is. | ||
| Why is the conference being – Not as aggressive as their voters want them to be. | ||
| Because the voters are now saying, we demand this. | ||
| We're furious still about the debt ceiling, but we want this appropriation process. | ||
| And we don't want any games. We don't want any CR. We see what's coming. | ||
| The Warrens told us, so we don't want a CR. We don't want an omnibus. | ||
| You promised us regular order and appropriations. | ||
| Where is that in this NDAA? We don't want any of this woke stuff in there. | ||
| How is this happening on our watch? | ||
| So where is the conference right now on this? | ||
| I think we've got several different factions. | ||
| You've got your war pimps. | ||
| They want to get us into a war anywhere in the world they can. | ||
| Case in point, Ukraine. | ||
| Then you've got these moderates that somehow feel like they are justified in going against their constituents. | ||
| I heard one of them say to, I think it was to Byron Donalds, they said, You know, you're going to get me beat with the stuff you're saying. | ||
| And my point to that was, well, hell, maybe you ought to start voting more like Byron Donalds. | ||
| And so, you know, we have done our due diligence when we recruit people to run for office as well. | ||
| I think, you know, just put an R beside the name and hopefully they'll win. | ||
| And that's what we're shooting for. | ||
| But, you know, we've got to get some people up here with some guts. | ||
| It was just some backbone that know that we are in a fight. | ||
| We are in a fight for the future of this country. | ||
| And we are on the cusp of losing everything. | ||
| Everything. Because we don't have the guts to make tough votes, to take stands. | ||
| And, you know, people in East Tennessee get it. | ||
| Man, they get it. Every time we, you know, they'll say, we don't want to shut down the government. | ||
| You know, when I go home, people say, shut it down. | ||
| Shut it down until you all can get to the table and get something reasonable. | ||
| And the people that are critical of me, they're not. | ||
| Go ahead. The folks in East Tennessee, just looking at the appropriations where we promised the 12 committee bills to roll up into a general bill, to hash it out with the Senate, and to do it by the stroke of midnight on 30 September, because that's the fiscal year for the government. | ||
| As you sit here today, Do you see any possibility that that can actually happen in regular order like we were promised? | ||
| Or should we be planning so people start thinking now that they're going to get back in mid-September and we're going to be talking about a CR that leads to some omnibus right before the Christmas holidays? | ||
| I'm still hopeful. | ||
| I see people like Matt Gates and Jordan and some of those other guys and we talk about this stuff all the time and I would hope that That the conference would listen to them because there's a reason that people, you know, that they win overwhelmingly. | ||
| They don't win by one or two percentage points. | ||
| They win by a good lick. | ||
| And I just think the conference has got to, for lack of a better word, they got to grow a set, man. | ||
| You know, we got to stand up to this nonsense. | ||
| The American public... | ||
| My biggest fear right now is the voters just stay home completely and then this woke agenda just will continue on and continue on and the downward spiral of our country will just continue until it doesn't exist in the shape, form, or fashion as we see it. | ||
| But until they get some guts. | ||
| Well, we know you're one of the gutsy ones up there, the fighting and the war was going to be fighting. | ||
| We don't have time. I know you got to bounce. | ||
| I appreciate this. We have to have you back. | ||
| There's been many more revelations about these UFOs that are like mind shattering. | ||
| And it's also about the institutional belief in our government. | ||
| So I want to save that for another day because I want to take time and go through that. | ||
| But I appreciate you taking this time, this NDAA. The Pentagon is putting some pressure on some of our people as well. | ||
| And I would sure like to talk to you about that. | ||
| We will work with your staff and get you rebooked when you've got time. | ||
| I appreciate this NDA because our audience is maniacally focused on this and kind of shocked that even the Ukraine, all the supplementals, everything going, but they're most shocked about the woke part that's still in there. | ||
| So I appreciate this, Congressman Birkhead, and we'll have you back on to talk about this situation with the UFOs. | ||
| Thank you, Mr. Bannon. Appreciate you, brother. | ||
| Thank you, sir. We appreciate you. | ||
| I want to make sure that Grace and Captain Bannon want to get that segment and push it out to everybody because this is a fight up here on this thing. | ||
| I got Dr. Sean Rowland, and with Jace Medical, I'm about to have one of the best experts in our nation talk to us. | ||
| Obviously, we had, you know, talk to Congressman Self about Taiwan. | ||
| I'm about to have Bill Gertz on it. | ||
| Bill Gertz has got a shocking article in the Washington Times from the other day I want to talk about, about the Chinese military. | ||
| He's also got updates on many other things. | ||
| He's one of the top experts in our nation on the PLA and the Chinese military. | ||
| But I want to bring in Dr. Sean first about Jace Medical because one of the things we do with our sponsors is that every one of our sponsors has to be meaningful to our audience. | ||
| Early on, when we shifted from impeachment to pandemic, and people remember this, I've been with the show for a couple of years, we were very much focused on the supply chain, what was coming out of Wuhan. | ||
| And you just saw last hour with Natalie going through the Wuhan hearing that was yesterday and what happened. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party will use any piece of leverage they have, any piece of leverage they have over the West. | ||
| Right now, we're seeing it, you know, when Janet Yellen was over there kowtowing, they sent the signal, you know, remember, Xi went and addressed his military, but as importantly, on the economic side, they're holding back rare earth. | ||
| Rare earths are absolutely essential for a modern industrial country to run. | ||
| They've just picked a couple of them, but they're going to pick more. | ||
| One of the biggest vulnerabilities we have, and you have as a citizen, is pharmaceuticals and medical. | ||
| The API, really the basis of pharmaceuticals, including vitamin C, I think it's still 95% is produced in China. | ||
| All the generic drugs, everything is generic. | ||
| I think 80% is still produced in China, and what's produced in India is still sourced in China. | ||
| One of the greatest strategic advantages they have over us Is this issue about pharmaceutical? | ||
| And we used to have Rosemary Gibson on in the early days of the pandemic every other day, and people were in shock. | ||
| And she had a book out that nobody had read until the pandemic started because the pharmaceutical industry had blocked her from the first time she went on Fox News. | ||
| Dr. Sean, you took that book and you actually turned it into a business, but you turned it into a business that's really a service to your countrymen. | ||
| And I cannot emphasize this enough. | ||
| This is why we're so monotically focused on what's happening in Brazil, what's happening in the Caribbean, what's happening in Cuba as the Chinese Communist Party begins to envelop us, what's happening in the Solomon Islands. | ||
| They are very long-term thinkers. | ||
| They are very strategic. | ||
| And they will use every piece of leverage they have in unrestricted warfare. | ||
| And this advantage they have is absolutely one of the most powerful they have because they could cut us off in a second and they know that. | ||
| And that's why JACE Medical is something I want everybody to pay attention to. | ||
| Dr. Shawn, can you walk us through exactly what you learned from Rosemary Gibson in the That's why I love what you did. | ||
| I talk about human agency. | ||
| You went out and actually created a service to get around this issue. | ||
| Can you walk our audience through it? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. You know, your numbers are right on. | ||
| When it comes to our dependence, all these medications and APIs coming out of China. | ||
| When I started Jace Medical a couple of years ago, I knew this was a problem. | ||
| I knew it was a concern and wanted to develop something to fix it. | ||
| But I thought I had more time. | ||
| What's happened just in the last two years? | ||
| We're now at over 300 medications on the FDA shortage list. | ||
| It's gone up over 30% in just the last couple of years since we started Jace Medical. | ||
| And I bring this up just to help drive this point home that things are not getting better, they're getting worse. | ||
| And, you know, this is just where things are at right now. | ||
| So really, what we've tried to do is empower people, let people have a tool that they can use as individuals To have some measure of protection against these issues. | ||
| So at Jace Medical, you come to the website, you fill out a form. | ||
| We offer two different things. | ||
| We offer the Jace case, which is basically emergency medications, mainly antibiotics. | ||
| We also offer our Jace daily service. | ||
| The Jace daily service is for those people who take blood pressure medications, diabetes, thyroid medications, anything that is a chronic condition, anxiety, depression, seizure disorders, the list goes on and on. | ||
| And we provide up to a year's supply of those medications. | ||
| What we've done is we've worked really hard to kind of package everything together to make it as simple, as convenient, and as affordable as possible. | ||
| You come onto the site. | ||
| You go through one of those two paths. | ||
| You can do both of them. And basically, you fill out the form. | ||
| It goes to a physician. | ||
| It has to be reviewed by a physician. | ||
| These are prescriptions. And then that prescription goes to your pharmacy. | ||
| We've negotiated rates with these pharmacies so that we can pass those savings on. | ||
| And at the end of all this, you get your medications delivered to your door. | ||
| The whole process shouldn't take more than 10, 15 minutes. | ||
| And really, I can't emphasize enough. | ||
| We're at a point now where one of the main drugs, this drug has been in short supply for quite some time. | ||
| It's a cancer drug. | ||
| And the FDA just recently is now having to basically allow non-FDA-approved facilities in China, allowing them to now import these medications into the U.S. because we have no other options. | ||
| There's no other supply out there. | ||
| And again, we're so behind the eight ball and the government is not doing enough. | ||
| So in the meantime, this is something that you can do today to get that peace of mind, to be prepared, whether For a supply chain disruption, whether it's for a disaster, whether you're traveling, whatever the case may be, you know, we're out here trying to make things, just trying to really provide this access to everyone that needs it. | ||
| And we believe wholeheartedly in this mission and we're working every day to improve the service. | ||
| Dr. Sean, API stands for Active Pharmaceutical Ingredient, API. Explain what that is to the audience and what percentage is still manufactured, produced in China and mainland China? | ||
| Around 2004, the last plant shut down in the US that was making generic medications. | ||
| They were making a derivative of penicillin. | ||
| And since that time, everything has moved overseas. | ||
| And while you'll hear, you know, yeah, we have some production capacity in Europe. | ||
| There's India, which you mentioned. | ||
| And of course, the gorilla in the room is China. | ||
| What we're finding as more and more is looked into this, these active... | ||
| So, well, let me take a step back. | ||
| The generic medications in the United States. | ||
| That accounts for... | ||
| Over, it's right around 95-96% of what we consume in the United States on a daily basis falls under that category of a generic medication. | ||
| Of those generics, they're all produced overseas. | ||
| Now, the active pharmaceutical ingredients, which you brought up, the API, that's what makes the medication work. | ||
| It turns out that all roads seem to lead back to China When it comes to where do these APIs come from? | ||
| So even if you have a medication that's made in India, or that's made in Japan, or that's made in Europe, the chance that there is a piece of that manufacturing process that depends on China is over 90%. | ||
| We might as well say everything. | ||
| So everything is, we're dependent on China. | ||
| And the other part of this, it's not just us. | ||
| We're not the only country in this situation. | ||
| This is a global issue. | ||
| So when the supply chain is disrupted, as it already has been in the past for children's antibiotics, for even things just as simple as children's Tylenol, a lot of other antibiotics I could add to the list, these things have happened. | ||
| They will continue to happen and they will get worse. | ||
| And when it does happen, we're in line with the rest of the world holding out our hands asking China for this handout. | ||
| You mentioned the strategic kind of ace up their sleeve, and I 100% agree. | ||
| This is a national security issue. | ||
| They cut us off in PPE. The first week of the show, they cut us off in PPE. They were buying from the world. | ||
| They cut us off from PPE. Remember that? | ||
| When you're going to Jace Medical, remember, they cut us off from PPE at the beginning when people thought, hey, there could be 100 million people dying on this virus. | ||
| They didn't know. They cut us off. | ||
| They cut us off from PPE. The leaders of this criminal enterprise have no morals. | ||
| They're not amoral, right? | ||
| They're worse than that. How do people, once again, I just want people to go to Jayce and get more information. | ||
| You've done an amazing job of taking action using your agency. | ||
| So where do people go to find out about this? | ||
| J-A-S-E, Jayce Medical, and actually there's a little acronym there, Just Antibiotics Saved for Emergencies. | ||
| Help you remember that. JayceMedical.com. | ||
| Amazing work. We love having you on here. | ||
| I know our audience loves us. I want everybody to go check it out today. | ||
| Dr. Sean Rowland, thank you very much for joining us and thank you even more for what you did. | ||
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Incredible. Thank you. Incredible. | |
| Bill Gertz needs no introduction to the War Room audience. | ||
| Bill, you have done more than any reporter over the last 20 or 30 years in trying to explain to the American people The Chinese Communist Party, their strategy, and what they will do. | ||
| I just want to get a tour to the horizon first, because there's a big piece in The Washington Times. | ||
| Two, one, you've had about the new front they've got as far as brain warfare goes. | ||
| And then I want to talk about Wolseley, etc. | ||
| And I've got a break that's coming up in about four minutes. | ||
| But just to set the stage for where you see where the battlefield is on unrestricted warfare today, Where do you think the CCP is on the development of the United States and taking us on directly? | ||
| What's your assessment? | ||
| It's not a very good picture. | ||
| Very dire situation. | ||
| The US is projecting weakness. | ||
| We've sent Anthony Blinken to Beijing, and then Janet Yellen, all to basically appease the Chinese as a way to avoid a war. | ||
| Next is going to be John Kerry, the climate czar, who's going to try and do some kind of climate deal over there. | ||
| The Chinese are preparing for war. | ||
| I just listened to a presentation by J. Kyle Bass, whom you know. | ||
| At the Hudson Institute, and he said he thinks that the Chinese could go to war, which would embroil the U.S. in a war, in 12 to 18 months. | ||
| And he's looked at the economic indicators, and the economic signs are China's fencing off its reserves, it's preparing, It's hoarding grain. | ||
| It's cutting off data. | ||
| I mean, these are all serious indicators and warnings of a coming conflict with China. | ||
| So I'm very concerned about a future war with China, something that could happen in a very short time. | ||
| Bill, you've done this. | ||
| You've had this beat for 30 years. | ||
| In the perspective of the long view that you take, is this the worst you've ever seen it? | ||
| Well, it is. Yeah, and especially the need to deter the conflict. | ||
| They're not doing the right things. | ||
| We could shut down the Chinese economy with our sanctions. | ||
| They have dollar holdings. | ||
| We have this integration, this economic integration with Beijing, and we've got to decouple. | ||
| Instead, the Biden administration is going in the opposite direction. | ||
| They're trying to suck up to the Chinese in hopes that this somehow will prevent a future conflict. | ||
| And again, they're sending all the wrong signals to Beijing. | ||
| The signal of strength is only what communist regimes respect. | ||
| This is the result. And the problem with the Biden administration, they don't understand the communist system. | ||
| Xi Jinping is a diehard Marxist-Leninist. | ||
| He's adopted this new ideology which he calls Marxism-Leninism with Chinese characteristics for the new era. | ||
| The new era is China's drive to take over the world. | ||
| They are literally on a march to take over the world. | ||
| The main impediment to taking over the world is the United States, and they're doing everything possible to weaken and ultimately destroy the United States. | ||
| Real quickly, I've got a minute here, and then obviously I'm going to bring you back when I spend the next whole segment with you. | ||
| The counter argument, people say, well, China's never really been aggressive outside of their borders. | ||
| This is all Gertz and Miles Guo and Bannon with their hair on fire. | ||
| Your response to that? The facts are that they are on the march ideologically. | ||
| They've been engaged in low-level warfare, whether it's cyber warfare, financial warfare. | ||
| You just need to look at the facts of the case. | ||
| It's clear they're engaged, as you mentioned, the three warfares, media warfare, legal warfare, psychological warfare. | ||
| And the U.S. is trying to pretend that we're not in a new Cold War. | ||
| The Cold War has been underway for the last 20 years, and they've basically ignored it. | ||
| And the reason they've ignored it is that too many sectors of the U.S. society Want to make money in China and they feel that any kind of tough posture towards China is going to undermine their ability to make money in China. | ||
| Bill, hang on for one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to spend... Bill Gertz has got a number of articles we're going to get into, but we're also going to get his strategic assessment. | ||
| Kyle Bass, he's reporting. | ||
| Kyle Bass gave a briefing over the Hudson Institute that says you look at all the economic indicators, and they're preparing for where the Daily Telegraph, as we reported on Saturday, at least during the Daily Telegraph of London, was she. | ||
| China prepares for war. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| The renowned expert on all things PLA and CCP Bill Gerst from the Washington Times joins us on the other side Battleground with Stephen K Bannon you | ||
| Bill Gertz, our guest, columnist of the Washington Times, and one of the most preeminent thinkers in everything related to the PLA and to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Bill, before I get into these pieces, once again, I think it's misclassifications. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party, we've been at cold war on unrestricted warfare, which is both information war, cyber war, economic war, psychological war, political warfare for 20 or 30 years. | ||
| Or at least 20 years. This is now, the part that's not kinetic is a hot war. | ||
| They're actively at war with us everywhere across it. | ||
| And China hands like yourself understand this. | ||
| Now they're on the march everywhere. | ||
| They're in chemical warfare with us with fentanyl right through our southern border on the invasion. | ||
| Plus now thousands, as Gordon Chang reports, thousands of PLA military-aged men coming up. | ||
| Fentanyl destroying, what, killing 100, 150,000 Americans a year, more than all the Vietnam War in all those years. | ||
| They're in, obviously, biological warfare. | ||
| We just had Natalie in the last hour, went through this congressional testimony from the other day about Wuhan lab and how it was suppressed and how we know that it came from there. | ||
| You've got this situation in Cuba where instead of being in the cabinet room like Kennedy was non-stop, they're actually building out an old Russian military base there and they will have potentially offensive cyber capabilities and offensive biological weapons capabilities. | ||
| The infiltration into our financial system, and we're underwriting most of this. | ||
| The Sequoia Capital scandal is the most outrageous thing I've seen. | ||
| In fact, to the fact that not only do we know Sequoia Capital, with pension fund money of this audience, is financing advanced weapons systems through Neil Shen, who's an operative of the Chinese Communist Party, the top venture capitalist in America, and went to Yale. | ||
| He's sitting there taking advanced artificial intelligence weapons capability and funding profits back to the Democratic Party. | ||
| And Kevin McCarthy had House Intel, Perpwalk, Derek Harvey, Colonel Harvey and the other people out there investigating this and shut down the investigations. | ||
| So just tell me, when you say Cold War, when you look at the unrestricted warfare, all the aspects leading up to kinetic, are they not in a hot offensive war against the United States of America, sir? | ||
| Clearly, they are. There's no question about that. | ||
| And the problem is that there's been a failure to understand this, and it's based on, again, the failure to understand communist ideology. | ||
| They try to say, oh, it's just Xi Jinping, or it's just the standing committee of the Politburo. | ||
| This is a long-standing plan. | ||
| Every communist leader since Mao Zedong Through Xi Jinping, have viewed the United States as the main enemy, the main enemy to be vanquished, the leader of world capitalism. | ||
| Again, that's part of the Marxist jargon. | ||
| And we've tried to shut that down. | ||
| Going back 20 years to my first book, The China Threat. | ||
| I tried to alert the world that these people are not our friends. | ||
| They are not wanting to cooperate with us. | ||
| The idea that if we just trade with them, that if we ignore their nuclear arms proliferation and missile proliferation like they've done with North Korea, that somehow this is going to create a moderate, non-communist, non-threatening state. | ||
| It was an utter failure for 40 years. | ||
| And now we're paying the price. | ||
| Now we're literally on the doorstep of a Chinese takeover of the world. | ||
| Talk to me about the kinetic war aspect. | ||
| I mean, look, you and I both know Kyle, and there's no one on the economics of the Chinese Communist Party I respect more than Kyle Bass. | ||
| And Kyle Bass, people should know, Kyle Bass is not a MAGA right-wing, you know, he ain't Steve Bannon or Bill Gertz or something like this. | ||
| He's a, quite frankly, I think he voted for Biden. | ||
| He's a moderate. I think he would character himself almost as a Democrat, a moderate Democrat. | ||
| Nobody does the economic numbers better than Kyle. | ||
| And Kyle's making the case that not only are they preparing for war, that you can look at the manifestations in their economy and what they're doing to make sure the United States can't do what we try to do with Russia, which is take down their central bank and destroy their currency and use the Swiss system against us. | ||
| When Kyle's talking about the preparations and she's giving speeches, I mean, Yellen shows up over there and he goes to the military and gives a speech, prepare for war, I need more combat preparations. | ||
| Is it also Bill Gertz's best thinking? | ||
| That we could be on the glide slope indicator in 12 to 18 months, as Kyle Bass says, to be actually in a kinetic conflict with the Chinese Communist Party and the PLA over Taiwan, the Straits of Taiwan, or the South China Sea, sir? | ||
| Yes, I completely agree with that assessment. | ||
| And this contrasts sharply with the statements of Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and General Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who've repeatedly played down the danger. | ||
| They've gone to testimony to Congress saying that a conflict with China is neither inevitable or imminent. | ||
| And I think that all the indicators and, you know, Jim Fennell is, I think, the former Pacific Fleet Intelligence Director and retired Navy Captain, has been sounding the alarm clearly that there are these indicators. | ||
| The danger here is, you know, look at Ukraine. | ||
| For months leading up to the February 2021 invasion of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, they were inside the Russian communications. | ||
| They were inside the Russian communications. | ||
| They knew it was coming and they couldn't stop it. | ||
| We're in a similar situation with China. | ||
| They know, based on the statements from Xi Jinping himself, he told the military to be ready for war. | ||
| The CIA director said it's not a question of if, it's only a question of when. | ||
| We know that it's happening, and they're doing all the wrong things to try and prevent that. | ||
| You know, Kyle Bass's solution was put him in charge of OFAC, Office of Foreign Assets Control, and let the Chinese know what kind of financial penalties they're going to pay. | ||
| He said that's the kind of deterrence that we need, and yet we're not doing the deterrence. | ||
| We're not building up our military forces in the Pacific. | ||
| Why aren't we sending aircraft carrier strike groups to be based at the Philippines or at Guam? | ||
| You know, those are the kinds of things we need to be taking Immediate steps. | ||
| And, you know, Congress said that they've got this specific security initiative and they're throwing money at it, but the military's not taking the appropriate steps. | ||
| There's not a sense of urgency on the part of the Pentagon to try and prevent a conflict with China, in my view. | ||
| Hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| My beloved Navy, people know that I was a Seventh Fleet sailor on a destroyer patrolling the South China Sea in my youth as a young naval officer. | ||
| Still the Navy, you know, Pearl Harbor, with all the indications that came from the Japanese when we actually had broken not just the diplomatic code, people forget we'd actually broken the naval codes also. | ||
| How could the Pentagon, and particularly the Navy, and Captain Jim Fennell is one of the great heroes of our time. | ||
| He gave up his career to warn people that this was happening. | ||
| He's been dead right on. | ||
| How can the military services, particularly the Navy, that had the debacle of Pearl Harbor and then had to fight their way all the way back across the Pacific in, what, three and a half, four years of bloody conflict, and essentially firebomb Japan into submission and then top it off with a nuclear weapon? | ||
| How could the Navy actually be missing the signals that we're going to have another naval conflict in the Taiwan Straits, the South China Sea, or defense of breaking some sort of blockade over Taiwan? | ||
| Well, you know, my view of Washington and the military as well is that people are policy. | ||
| If you pick the wrong people, you get the wrong policies. | ||
| And that's what we've got. | ||
| You know, the Biden administration started out Better. | ||
| They started out adopting quite a few Of the Trump administration policies towards China. | ||
| But as you can see, they've completely shifted. | ||
| Now they're in full appeasement mode. | ||
| You know, first Blinken, then Yellen, and then John Kerry's going there. | ||
| And of course, John Kerry is on record as saying no differences with China will be allowed to limit his ability to fight climate change, of course, which is a huge boondoggle, of course. | ||
| And you believe that these people are actually, you think this is full appeasement mode. | ||
| Is that your theory of the case? | ||
| Yes. Yeah. | ||
| I mean, other than Taiwan, you know, and I will give Biden credit, even though he seems to be way in over his head as president. | ||
| He did say three times that the U.S. would defend Taiwan militarily, and no other president has done that. | ||
| And it's not accurate that the White House walked that back. | ||
| They didn't walk it back. All they said was it's not a change in U.S. policy. | ||
| And that is accurate. The Taiwan Relations Act does not set the U.S. To defend Taiwan. | ||
| What it does say is that it's the president's decision in consultation with Congress on whether or not to defend Taiwan. | ||
| And Biden has made clear. | ||
| Again, they did this to try and deter the Chinese, but it's not enough. | ||
| They need to be doing much more. | ||
| The Chinese won't react to statements from the U.S. They will react when we start sending More submarines and carrier battle groups to the region, more munitions, more strike missiles, those kinds of things. | ||
| You're recommending get the carrier battle groups out of San Diego, get them out of Pearl Harbor. | ||
| You want to see forward deployment again, either in the Philippines or you want to see forward deployment of these carrier battle groups somewhere close to the South China Sea, somewhere close to the Straits of Taiwan. | ||
| It's a no-brainer. | ||
| Why hasn't it been done? | ||
| That's the question. Now, Congress is partly to blame. | ||
| Again, they have not put into law these things. | ||
| It's all sense of the Congress this, sense of the Congress that. | ||
| In my experience, the best things that have happened related to China all took place with hard legislation. | ||
| The first was the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act. | ||
| That was a response to the de-recognition of Taipei and the recognition of Beijing, and the US said, we're going to defend our former ally. | ||
| The second was the China Military Power Report. | ||
| That's in law. | ||
| It requires the Pentagon. | ||
| And they fought that for decades. | ||
| I've watched it. The Pentagon, in the beginning stages of the late 90s, early 2000s, was saying, the Chinese don't even want a military that would go beyond Taiwan. | ||
| And now we're looking at them building bases Beyond the Strait of Hormuz and Djibouti and other places, they're building up their networks. | ||
| They're cranking out submarines like sausage. | ||
| They have the largest navy in the world now, and the U.S. is struggling to even build ships faster. | ||
| So we need to stand up to them. | ||
| They only respect power and force, and the U.S. needs to be able to represent that power and force. | ||
| Otherwise, the world is going to be taken over and it's going to be a Chinese Communist nightmare. | ||
| I want to go to this article that was almost hard for me to fathom about the brain warfare. | ||
| Walk through, this is from a couple of weeks ago, or from last week. | ||
| Walk through, what is the challenge? | ||
| Because people don't understand, and I think Sequoia Capital, the scandal there is starting to open their mind about the advanced military systems. | ||
| We kind of fall back all the time that we have the most advanced military systems, and the Wall Street Journal just had this piece This came on my radar in late 2021, | ||
| December. That's when the Commerce Department announced it was imposing sanctions on something called the China Academy of Military Medical Sciences and 11 other institutes. | ||
| And the reason these sanctions were imposed is because these institutes are working on what the Commerce said was brain control weaponry. | ||
| Now think about that for a second. | ||
| This is weapons that can control people's brains. | ||
| That means it's either biological, cognitive, or informational, or all three. | ||
| So they're working on high technology weapons that can actually influence the brain. | ||
| They can fire Directed energy that can have an impact, a certain specific impact. | ||
| It can change your cognitive ability. | ||
| It can make you question your own sanity. | ||
| These are the kinds of things they're working on, and it's really, really, I think, an incredible new military arena. | ||
| And the Chinese are leading the world. | ||
| According to three open source intelligence analysts who produced a report, Which I wrote about last week and they said that these can even range from kind of a handheld weapon that could be used to influence people's thinking or cognitive abilities or to larger weapon systems that could influence entire populations. | ||
| I just want to make sure people, I just want to hit rewind for a second. | ||
| You saw this in the Commerce Department announced that we're going to put a curtailment of transverse technology on brain control weapons, weapons that control the brains. | ||
| Then three open source analysts did a report that has backed this up. | ||
| This is not something out of Buck Rogers or science fiction. | ||
| This is science fact. But this is the types of things that are coming out of their military research labs. | ||
| Much of it is often predicated upon the cogs of Western technology, correct? | ||
| Yeah. In fact, these three analysts in their report, which was fairly extensive, Produced a scenario where Chinese troops could, and this would be a real-life scenario for Taiwan, Chinese troops could be inoculated against a certain biological weapon that could be targeted at Taiwan and then they could conduct the invasion causing people to be sick or die and then follow it up with these brain warfare weaponry or neuro strike as a Former special operations guy Bob McCrate coined that term. | ||
| He's been the first to really focus on this and really has done a lot of great work. | ||
| He influenced the three open source analysts as well. | ||
| What is, is anybody in the Pentagon? | ||
| Is anybody in the intelligence community? | ||
| You're probably one of the best source guys around. | ||
| Is anybody taking this as a major threat? | ||
| Have you seen anybody that's starting to work on this or starting to push back besides the analyst doing the report? | ||
| Have you gotten any feel in your reporting? | ||
| That folks are taking this seriously? | ||
| This has raised the question of whether or not these kind of brain warfare weaponry systems are what is causing the so-called Havana Syndrome or anomalous health incidents. | ||
| These things are happening around the world. | ||
| They're happening against our diplomatic personnel, our intelligence personnel, and our military personnel. | ||
| So the administration is in full shutdown mode on anything to do with Havana syndrome. | ||
| And I think that this Again, is a potential source for these brain attacks that people are convinced have taken place. | ||
| And so far, the Pentagon is keeping it very, very secret. | ||
| I know the US Special Operations Command is looking at sensors that are able to detect this kind of brain wave or microwave or directed energy attacks on people's brains. | ||
| But as far as any kind of public things going, the White House has kind of shut down all public discussion of it. | ||
| They put everything behind the classification system. | ||
| Before I let you go, Gal Luft and James Wolsey, just get us up to date on these accusations against Luft and about some of the unnamed people, I guess, in the documents. | ||
| You seem to be, once again, on top of everything. | ||
| What went on here? Yeah, this was an indictment that was unsealed. | ||
| The indictment was actually issued in November of last year, and it indicted this dual U.S.-Israeli citizen, Gal Luft, Who is a Biden critic and who is alleged, based on his energy dealings, that the Biden team is corrupt. | ||
| Clearly that's starting to come out and all of a sudden he gets indicted. | ||
| But the interesting thing about the indictment is that it reveals a plot. | ||
| By Gal Luft and a Chinese government analyst named Patrick Ho, who worked to basically try to co-opt a former CIA director. | ||
| He's not identified by name, but the statements that are attributed to him in the indictment have been traced directly To a China Daily article that quoted Jim Woolsey as saying, former CIA Director Jim Woolsey as saying, yeah, we've got to get better relations with China. | ||
| So this is clearly an interesting case. | ||
| I think it's a kind of a case study in how China seeks to influence I was in charge of the China situation. | ||
| It was never going to happen. Patrick Ho was the active partner of Hunter Biden. | ||
| At CEFC. Patrick Ho was his active part. | ||
| This thing is going to explode because of the Buried Leads here. | ||
| Gertz, where do people go to get all your writing? | ||
| Where do they go to get your Washington Times, your book, Deceiving the Sky? | ||
| Gertzfile.com is my website. | ||
| At Bill Gertz is my Twitter handle and all my other social medias, Getter Truth Social. | ||
| I've also got a podcast called Victory Over Communism with Bill Gertz. | ||
| You can access that at victoryovercommunism.net. | ||
| It's a great podcast that looks at both Chinese communism and American Marxism. | ||
| Wow. Gertz, you're the best. | ||
| Best informed, best sourced writer on everything dealing with the PLA and the CCP. Bill Gertz, honored to have you on here, brother. | ||
| Thank you so much for coming on. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. Keep up the great work. | ||
| Gertz is a patriot and a hero. | ||
| I'm telling you, that guy has done the work, has done the job. | ||
| Guys like Kyle Bass and Bill Gertz warn you that something's happening. | ||
| Something's happening. Okay, we're going to be back here at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning on Watch in the War Room. |
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