May 5, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| John, you know, you've been spending a lot of time thinking about underprivileged, underserved markets, underserved people, and the implications on jobs and things of that sort. | ||
| And I'm curious where you think AI really is going to land. | ||
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I think there's no avoiding that this is what I call the third reconstruction. | |
| I've said it on your show before. | ||
| It's the fourth industrial revolution. | ||
| This is like going from mankind to horses, and probably more appropriately from horses to transition to automobiles, which took 50 years to complete. | ||
| This is probably going to happen in five years, and it's going to disrupt the lives of 100 million working families between now and 2030. | ||
| And if we do it right, there will be another 100 million or plus jobs that come in, and we'll train them properly. | ||
| If we do it wrong, It won't just be black and brown people who have pain. | ||
| It will be my poor white brothers and sisters. | ||
| In the short term, I think there's a lot of issues that people are now discussing. | ||
| Provenance of content is a good example and a big one, right? | ||
| Like, how are we going to know what content is real, is generated, is from a human? | ||
| You need to know that you're talking to a human or an AI when it's one or the other. | ||
| I think you should. So there's a class of things about that. | ||
| And then longer term, as these systems become really, really powerful, I do think we will need some sort of international authority that is looking at the people building the most powerful systems. | ||
| Last night was probably one of the most important meetings I hosted. | ||
| I'm very hopeful because a guy like Sam is on point and Sam called me and said, let's do this meeting. | ||
| It wasn't my idea, it was his. | ||
| We had talked about it, but he took the initiative to go from the White House to our house was quite dramatic. | ||
| We can decide anything we want. | ||
| We collectively society, not we OpenAI. | ||
| There will be regulation, there will be many different versions of this that work, and we will have, in the coming years, a very rigorous discussion about how we're going to integrate this technology into our lives. | ||
| And we can build on all sorts of safeguards, we can build on all sorts of rules, but if we don't have this discussion with a very broad group of people, we will build something that a small slice of humanity wants, rather than what humanity as a whole wants. | ||
| Sam has something that a lot of tech leaders don't have. | ||
| I say this very respectfully. He's got IQ and EQ. Sam's the only tech leader I'm aware of that went into the underserved community ever with a new technology like this to listen and not just talk and say, help me make this better, almost like a moral bill of rights. | ||
| We probably need that as much as we need regulation. | ||
| And I think that this community can help him do that. | ||
| Friday, 5 May in the year of our Lord, 2023, for Hour 2 of the morning edition of the War Room, evening edition 5 to 7, even with four hours every weekday and, you know, a couple hours on Saturday and all the time we spend up and getter, | ||
| it's not nearly enough to make sure that we can put out the information that this all-important audience is needs to grasp the challenge ahead of us, but we're going to make our best effort, right? | ||
| Joe Allen, and Joe, you've been working on a special project. | ||
| I keep pulling you off because you're in the middle of it now. | ||
| This is CNBC spending 30 minutes a day, MSNBC. They're obsessed with this, and the reason is they understand the magnitude of this. | ||
| I've said this over a year ago. | ||
| That AI and transhumanism is going to be a big part of the 2024 campaign. | ||
| Just is. You can tell it already what's going to happen. | ||
| When a guy's sitting there going, you know, we're going to talk about 100 million families, 100 million jobs, households we're going to affect. | ||
| And if we do it right, we'll create 100 million. | ||
| But if we do it wrong, so Joe Allen, walk me through this, brother. | ||
| Well, Steve, we heard a lot about Sam Altman listening. | ||
| Yesterday, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden met with the tech CEOs from OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, Anthropic. | ||
| At the same time, Sam Altman begins his tour to listen to actual human beings about what we might want in regard to the technology that he's deploying. | ||
| So who did we just listen to there? | ||
| That was, of course, Sam Altman. | ||
| That was John Hope Bryant and moderated by Andrew Sorkin. | ||
| People will remember him from the War Room clips, interviewing Ray Kurzweil, interviewing the robot Sophia, people like Eric Schmidt, Alex Karp from Palantir, so on and so forth. | ||
| I am not ever, let's just say I've oftentimes been accused of being a bit cynical, and definitely my cynicism alarm bells went off listening to that. | ||
| There you have Sam Altman talking about provenance of content, proving that content is made by humans. | ||
| The problem arises from the technology that he is pushing forward from ChatGPT or Dolly2, the image generator, coming from OpenAI. | ||
| Another project that Sam Altman is also invested in is called WorldID. | ||
| Denver actually has an image that we can see there. | ||
| There we see the orb. | ||
| A sphere that takes a detailed photo of your iris so that you can attach your verified biometric identity to your digital identity and thereby prove that you're human. | ||
| And that is the solution that Sam Altman is putting forward to the problem that he is, in fact, causing. | ||
| Of course, our listeners will also be familiar with the concept of the fourth industrial revolution mentioned by John Hope Bryant. | ||
| The fourth industrial revolution pushed by Klaus Schwab and defined as the merging of the physical, digital, and biological worlds. | ||
| Of course, the world ID fits neatly into that paradigm. | ||
| And John Hope Bryant was actually handpicked by Klaus Schwab in 2004 to become a young global leader. | ||
| He attended, of course, the most recent conference in Davos where everyone was talking about open AI. And artificial intelligence in general and the impact it would have on society. | ||
| So John Hope Bryant, the voice of America's blacks and to some extent, I guess, the voice of America's poor whites, is a young global leader closely situated with Klaus Schwab and clearly is on board with the Fourth Industrial Revolution paradigm. | ||
| I would also note that all of this talk about IQ and empathy that he was bringing up This notion of empathy, which I would like to consider myself an empathic person, and I think empathic people are the best people, but Klaus Schwab's latest book, The Great Narrative, is all about empathy. | ||
| You know, the world basically discovered Klaus Schwab during the pandemic with the Great Reset and became... | ||
| Reasonably furious at everything that they read there and the kind of cynical opportunism in the face of a pandemic. | ||
| And so the great narrative is his attempt to bring about a more inclusive and empathic narrative so that we can be ushered into this new technological era with hope. | ||
| And feel warm and fuzzy as we become cyborgs with artificial intelligence, if not ruling over us, certainly as perpetual partners in our lives, generating text, generating images, making financial decisions, and so on and so forth. | ||
| And that's why this thing on empathy. | ||
| They're gonna part is on 60 minutes remember to finish with the with the with the radiologist they're using example for radiology they picked a random example and the radiologist would be able to come in in the morning and go through an AI would be able to do more and looking at charts and looking at people's cancers and all this stuff more in 30 seconds Then the top doctor in the world would be able to do in years. | ||
| This is just a radiologist and a technician. | ||
| And they would then, the machine or the robot or the AI would then be, no, the human would just be a function, be a body man. | ||
| Be a body man. | ||
| Like with President Trump when he goes around, you got a body man. | ||
| To get him a water or to, you know, go grab something or go grab somebody or here's what I need. | ||
| A body man, you're a body man to AI. It's to be, you can tell with the empathy, it's to be a partner. | ||
| But wait for it, you ain't the, you're the junior partner. | ||
| Remember the whole thing, this was my previous rant in the first hour of the show. | ||
| This is what they want and what they're getting. | ||
| And you can see this in the education. | ||
| They want you to be just proletariat. | ||
| Right? And now you're going to be proletariat. | ||
| Now you're going to be a body man to a thinking machine. | ||
| Essentially what this is. | ||
| A machine that can think so fast and so magnificently and then eventually is going to have consciousness. | ||
| By the way, some of the top people already now think it has consciousness, at least of a six or seven year old person. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
| Joe Allen. But they want you, they're going to want you as, you're going to have a partner. | ||
| The problem is you're not going to be the senior partner. | ||
| You're going to be the body man. | ||
| And that's going to be of the people that keep the jobs, not the hundred million that get displaced. | ||
| There they're going to have to think about something else. | ||
| And to solve all this, to stop all this, they had a meeting with Kamala Harris. | ||
| Doesn't that make you feel great? Coming off of her a magnificent solution to the invasion on the southern border. | ||
| Right? What else? She's done a couple other things. | ||
| She went around the world. She's a rock star. | ||
| She's a solutions provider. | ||
| When I think of a solution, when I think of somebody who really want on top of a problem that can own a decision, own a room, enforce her will, enforce her will upon events, Kamala is the person that comes to mind. | ||
| That's who they put on this. | ||
| That's who they had the meetings. The only thing that she would be able to do is cackle. | ||
| The robots would, like I said, we can't handle this. | ||
| You've got to stop the cackle. | ||
| Joe Allen, this thing is hurtling towards, and I realize, Sam Altman going around and having a listening tour, how dumb do they think you are? | ||
| I mean, you've got to remember, we try to respect you by making the show tough and giving you information, and economists, and FT, and capital markets, and geopolitics, and we had Bishop Schneider on here yesterday. | ||
| We try to get the best and the brightest in here to talk and to be able to share with you. | ||
| And it's pretty easy against our opposition who have no respect for you whatsoever. | ||
| They think you're a bunch of dumb cattle. | ||
| And so Sam Altman, give me about Sam Altman's listening tour. | ||
| He's going out and talking to, he's listening to human beings and this is what he's getting feedback about what you, your feedback on what you think about your new digital overlords. | ||
| Is that what he's asking for input on? | ||
| How about this? I don't want a digital overlord. | ||
| I think I'm made in the image and likeness of God. | ||
| I like that. I'm for these guys, the homo sapiens. | ||
| I'll take this. We're the ones made in the image and likeness of God. | ||
| Right? With the Holy Spirit. | ||
| As a temple of the Holy Spirit. | ||
| That's what we want. You think Sam Altman's out there asking those questions? | ||
| Getting that feedback? Brother Joe Allen? | ||
| Look, I don't know how malicious or sinister a guy like Sam Altman is. | ||
| I only can speak from my perspective and other legacy humans and Luddites, really. | ||
| And what I see is it doesn't really matter whether he's sincere or not in this listening tour, that he is creating a technology that will be profoundly disruptive and destructive for those who are not readily positioned to benefit from it. | ||
| While he's going on this listening tour, Bill Gates, who is still a big figure at Microsoft, which if it doesn't control open AI, they certainly are making big decisions about how their technology is deployed. | ||
| Bill Gates is pushing for artificial intelligence to become the kind of gold standard for teaching, meaning that no matter what any adult thinks about this, they are creating human AI symbiotes of the coming generation. | ||
| It won't matter what we think if they're able to get to them first. | ||
| That's what I see here. | ||
| Exactly. That is the perfect summary. | ||
| It ain't gonna matter. | ||
| You know why? Because the thinking machine doesn't really care what his body man thinks. | ||
| That's where we're headed. Joe Allen, fantastic. | ||
| You go back to your project now, Joey. | ||
| We're going to amass a project we'll be able to announce in a couple of weeks. | ||
| Where do people get to you, sir? | ||
| You can find me at warroom.org under the transhumanism tab, jobot.xyz, and social media, get her on Twitter, at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z. Thank you very much, Steve. | ||
| Thank you, brother. Thank you, sir. | ||
| Dr. Terrell Marshall is going to be in the house here momentarily. | ||
| Also have Ben Harnwell from Rome. | ||
| shocking private art showing in the EU about Jesus. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. We're gonna have tomorrow elements of the conference World War III, the early years. | ||
| We're getting tomorrow more geopolitics, more international politics, national security. | ||
| Also, Philip Patrick is going to join me. | ||
| CNBC finally reported, and I got it up on Getter, you know, the central banks now are on a bigger role buying gold in 23 than they were in 22, which was a record year, at least since 1950, which I think is when they started keeping this statistic. | ||
| Go to Birch Gold, and by the way, you're the head of the creditors committee. | ||
| You got homework assignments. | ||
| We're going to do a lot of homework this weekend because Tuesday's the big, that's Tuesday's the meeting day. | ||
| So let's... Make sure you go to birchgold.com slash Bannon to get the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| We've been doing this for about a year, year and a half. | ||
| The third installment ripped from today's headlines is the debt trap. | ||
| It gets you up to speed on everything you need to know as a member of the creditors committee on what this... | ||
| And by the way, we don't talk about gimmicks. | ||
| We've broken... You've got to understand something, folks. | ||
| We broke these people. You've got a guy that's got a Nobel Prize from the Norwegians. | ||
| And he's talking about printing, minting a $1 trillion coin gimmick to get past you. | ||
| That's a victory. You've broken them. | ||
| You know how hard it was for Paul Krugman to write that? | ||
| We're going to rub his nose in that because that's a gimmick and it's a dangerous gimmick. | ||
| It's dangerous for the New York Times to print that and put this crap up there every day. | ||
| So go there right now and check it out. | ||
| Okay, I want to put Dr. | ||
| Taylor Marshall, thank you very much. | ||
| Honored to have you on here. Huge fan of your writing and everything. | ||
| We've done so many specials with you. | ||
| We had a very special, we had Bishop Schneider here in the show last night and then had a very special dinner with some spiritual warriors that was just incredible. | ||
| And I'm going to spend some time with Dr. | ||
| Marshall talking about the spiritual warfare that we're in. | ||
| I want to go to the first. Ben Harnwell, and this is about the crisis it is. | ||
| And you have to understand, we had Tom Williams on here from Rome, Dr. | ||
| Tom Williams in this book about Christian persecution. | ||
| He said, hey, it's going to get worse than anything in first century Rome, and it's coming. | ||
| And here's one of the reasons it's coming. | ||
| Talk to me about what the EU is doing right now, and I tell you what, the art he's about to talk about, we can show him only one picture. | ||
| The rest of the art is too obscene To put up. | ||
| It's too obscene to be seen, but to put up. | ||
| Ben Hornwell. Well, this is an excellent setup for your investigation now with Dr. | ||
| Marshall, because this is pure Ephesians 12, 6 territory here. | ||
| This is an exhibition that they've held between the 2nd and the 5th of May, so it closes today, which is the feast day of Pope St. | ||
| Pius V. Let's just mention that and quickly move on. | ||
| And this exhibition, which was denied access to actually members of the taxpaying public, is so obscene It gives us an illustration into what's going on in the minds of the politicians who organise this, Steve, and which party are they? | ||
| Well, it's obviously the Swedish left. | ||
| It's a shame, but I absolutely understand that we can't, you know, this is a family show, we can't show some of the images that illustrate the degree of degradation, deviancy, and freakishness that is being promoted here. | ||
| by the very people who own and control our culture throughout the West. | ||
| But you're just going to have to take our word for it. | ||
| It's pretty gross. | ||
| And this is, Steve, this is the left. | ||
| This is what the left does. | ||
| This is what it enjoys going to see. | ||
| This is what it considers to be art when it's behind closed doors. | ||
| So in a certain sense, we have a privileged opportunity here to see inside the minds of the left and see what they consider to be high art. | ||
| It's depraved It's organized by a Swedish lesbian photographer. | ||
| Those, I should say, are her illustrations that are being promoted at this exhibition. | ||
| And, you know, Christians fighting in the public square have been suffering. | ||
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But hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| Slow down. Hang on. I have no problem with the lesbian Swedish photographer. | ||
| She's an artist. She can do what artists do. | ||
| Okay? That's her deal. | ||
| She's got an answer for that. | ||
| That's her deal. My problem is the sociopathic overlords that would use taxpayer money and put this up and then not let the public come in and see it, what they've done. | ||
| And they talk about all these conspiracy theories. | ||
| You've got these Q people. | ||
| They're all crazy about all this stuff and these conspiracies. | ||
| They're fueling it. | ||
| The problem is, tell me about the exhibit. | ||
| We'll put up a link so that the adults and the public can go see this, so you should see it. | ||
| In fact, we should have our noses rubbed in this. | ||
| And this is not about the lesbian photographer that's the creator. | ||
| That's her deal, okay? | ||
| She's got an answer for that. | ||
| She'll be weighed and measured, okay? | ||
| People are free. | ||
| They're free to make these decisions. | ||
| She's made a decision and she's making an artistic statement. | ||
| That is what it is. | ||
| That's not what the issue here is. | ||
| Official institutions are not just supporting it, they're promoting it. | ||
| And they're promoting it in the way they get the best of both worlds. | ||
| They get to promote it among the sociopathic overlords internally. | ||
| So they can smirk and smug, but more importantly, reinforce how superior they are to this peasant's religion, this, excuse me, peasant superstition, and mock it, look what we've done, but they will not let the public in. | ||
| Ben Harnwell. Steve, I left the European Parliament 15 years ago, and I have to say it has gone. | ||
| I mean, it's always been, in my estimation, at Nadir. | ||
| But if it were possible, it has gone down even further downhill since I left. | ||
| So the only people who could attend this artistic exhibition are, you know, former people like me with the appropriate badge, members of the European Parliament themselves. | ||
| And that's basically it. | ||
| Organized, as I say, by taxpayers' money but deprived the opportunity. | ||
| You know, in one sense, it's a blessing that taxpayers can't go and see how their money is being wasted because of the outrage it would generate. | ||
| If I can push back on one point, Steve, if I can push back on one point, Please, please. | ||
| You say that the issue here isn't that this is so-called artwork organised by a Swedish lesbian photographer. | ||
| You know, in one aspect, that's absolutely true. | ||
| Can I just, however, say that for Christians who've been suffering these outrages, So basically since the 60s onwards, you know, I put this out on Geta this morning. | ||
| It's not courageous. | ||
| It's not brave. It's not stunning to do these things against the Judeo-Christian tradition. | ||
| Let me push back. | ||
| Let me push back. I didn't say it was brave. | ||
| I didn't say this. It's not. | ||
| It's not brave. She wouldn't do it to Mohammed. | ||
| She wouldn't do Mohammed because she had her head on us. | ||
| Right. Okay. But I didn't say that. | ||
| I said she's as an artist. | ||
| She makes choices. | ||
| She made a choice. I understand how artists make choice. | ||
| She ain't gonna make just like we're gonna play. | ||
| We're gonna play for Dr. Marshall and play the witch to turn the Bible. | ||
| She wouldn't do it with Quran. | ||
| I admire the Muslims for that. | ||
| I admire that they're not gonna back down. | ||
| That's their strength. That's why Reverend Hagee used to say, hey, the problem in Europe you got, the churches are empty and the mosques are full. | ||
| I got a bounce, Ben, but we'll come back to this. | ||
| But this is what Tom Williams is saying. | ||
| That art and the EU putting it on for people officially in the EU but not letting other people see it shows you the Judeo-Christian West is not now post-Christian. | ||
| It's anti-Christian by its leadership. | ||
| And if you're prepared to accept it, It's going to get first-century Rome anti... | ||
| It's going to get Diocletian. | ||
| You're going to get the Diocletian anti-Christian and you're going to get there pretty quickly. | ||
| The guy in the transhumanism thing, let me not bury the lead from the last thing, he said, wait for it, five years. | ||
| Five years. It's coming. | ||
| Ben, thank you. | ||
| This is a fantastic get. | ||
| We've got a lot more to get to. | ||
| I appreciate it. How do people get to your social media? | ||
| You're doing an amazing job. Steve, it's simply my surname, Harnwell on Getter at Harnwell, and I'm also pushing out content on the War Room newsletter. | ||
| And I might be doing a dive into this image that you show, which is to give a brief explanation. | ||
| This is our Lord and Saviour here, surrounded by BDSM apostles. | ||
| That's the idea behind this. | ||
| This is the founder of our society. | ||
| of our religion and our faith and our salvation surrounded by the general apostles. | ||
| It's the living God. That's a living God right there. | ||
| I want everybody to look at that in your prayers this weekend. | ||
| In your prayers this weekend, think about that. | ||
| Thank you, Ben. Dr. | ||
| Taylor Marshall, your thoughts and observations on this? | ||
| Well, if this was the Quran, If this was an image of Muhammad, even if it were one of the heroes of the left, there'd be outrage. | ||
| If this was attacking Dylan Mulvaney or something like this, making fun of him. | ||
| Or Gandhi or Martin Luther King, you pick it. | ||
| Yes, they would be up in outrage. | ||
| And as you said, the problem is empty churches and full mosques. | ||
| It's the problems on our own doorstep here. | ||
| And I think Christians need to be vocal and we need to say this is an outrage. | ||
| This is God. | ||
| This is the son of God. | ||
| And I think we were talking about this last night. | ||
| There's this idea that in our culture that there can be a neutral vacuum. | ||
| With no principles, philosophy, theology. | ||
| And that's not true. | ||
| Wherever there's a vacuum, there's always something that comes in. | ||
| And we are against a religion of secular humanism, which is transitioning into transhumanism. | ||
| And unless we lift up the cross and get back to our roots as a Christian culture, we will lose. | ||
| It's over. Dr. | ||
| Taylor Marshall, you know where he's a great wingman? | ||
| It's a perfect tee-up for the next segment. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial. That was genius. | ||
| We didn't even talk about it. We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Pastor Jackson Lawmeyer is going to join us. | ||
| Pastors for Trump. The Guardian and all the big left-wing media has got him in the gun sights because they say he's committed the crime of being a Christian nationalist. | ||
| That's the new crime. The sociopathic overlords have a new crime. | ||
| You're a Christian nationalist. | ||
| Okay, we'll take a short commercial break. | ||
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Dr. Taylor Marshall's in the house. | |
| Pastor Jackson Lawmire joins us after a short commercial break. | ||
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to the end just watch and see it's all started everything's begun and you are over because we're taking down the ccp spread the word all through hong kong we will fight till they're all gone we rejoice when there's no more let's take down the ccp foreign | |
| let them continue without fierce opposition and we stand here today in defiance of their siege and destroy their symbols of oppression wow | ||
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| We must build a community outside of the virtual. | ||
| I can only take so much that it wasn't shut down. | ||
| That's why I can't take too much. | ||
| I'm going to get to Dr. Taylor Marshall in a minute. | ||
| Let me bring in Jackson, Pastor Jackson Lawmire. | ||
| Pastor Jackson, I don't know if we got the Guardian story. | ||
| The lead story in the Guardian the other day, sir, singled you out, accused you. | ||
| I don't know if it's an accusation, but then it is that you're a Christian nationalist, sir. | ||
| You're leading a Christian nationalist movement, and you've got 7,000 pastors, something called Pastors for Trump, and you're having a COVID meeting on 11 May at Doral before Clay Clark and the team, General Flynn, kick off one of their events. | ||
| Tell me, what is the truth and what is the spin of The Guardian, sir? | ||
| Well, Steve, first, thanks for having me on. | ||
| Love everything that you have been doing and continuing to do. | ||
| And yeah, The Guardian, The Washington Post, Rolling Stone, New York Times, they have all labeled me as a Christian nationalist, and they mean it in a very negative way. | ||
| Every single time you read it, it's that I'm a threat to democracy. | ||
| Well, if you just take the two words, you know, do I identify as a Christian? | ||
| Yes. What is a Christian? A follower of Christ. | ||
| I am a Christian. What is a nationalist? | ||
| Well, a nationalist is someone who believes that the interest of their country should come before the interest of other countries and how their government operates. | ||
| Therefore, I'm a Christian and American-first individual, and they don't mean it in those terms. | ||
| They mean it as a very negative, derogatory thing. | ||
| But I will tell you, Christian nationalism is not a threat to the American democracy and republic. | ||
| I believe Christian nationalism is the only hope for the American republic to survive because what we have been infiltrated by Is a bunch of godless globalists. | ||
| See, those are basically the two categories. | ||
| If you're not an American nationalist Christian, you're a godless globalist in that sense, and they're trying to get Christians not to participate in the geopolitical world. | ||
| Just be a Christian. We're okay if you're just a Christian. | ||
| But if you get involved in politics, well, then we're going to run hit piece after hit piece after hit piece upon you. | ||
| But that just tells me we're over the target. | ||
| Isn't their interpretation different? | ||
| I'm not saying – I don't think they have a problem with you being a Christian, and I'm not sure they have a problem with you being a nationalist. | ||
| Well, they probably have a problem with both of those as qua-Christian and qua-nationalist. | ||
| Their point when they combine them, and they always, most of the time, put the term white before it, white Christian nationalists, that you're nothing, you're just different in degree not kind from the mullahs in Persia, in Tehran, that you're a theocrat. | ||
| You're essentially a theocrat. | ||
| You are, Pastor Jackson Lomar, the American Christian Taliban. | ||
| What say you, sir? I've been called that as well several times on Twitter, the American Christian Taliban. | ||
| And here's the reality. | ||
| None of us have ever advocated for that at all. | ||
| Here's what we advocate for. | ||
| I want to elect godly men, godly women who happen to be Christian into public office. | ||
| That is just my stance. | ||
| You know, the largest voting bloc in the United States of America is the evangelical voting bloc. | ||
| If evangelicals would simply get out and vote, I'm telling you, we'd flip this country in a minute. | ||
| Within ten years, we could flip the nation in regards to who's holding public office. | ||
| If Christians just simply got out to vote, they know that. | ||
| They're very afraid of that. | ||
| Therefore, this is why they push back. | ||
| Don't get involved, especially as a pastor. | ||
| Don't get involved in politics because they know the influence that pastors have. | ||
| How do you mobilize the largest voting bloc in America? | ||
| You mobilize pastors because they're parishioners, they're congregation, they listen to them. | ||
| So that's what we're doing. We're mobilizing pastors to mobilize the evangelical vote. | ||
| Pastor Lawmire, we're going to bounce. | ||
| How do people get to your site, the Pastors for Trump, and how do they find out more about your 11 May? | ||
| We'll have you back on and go into details, but how do they find out now about your 11 May report? | ||
| Yes, so on Thursday, May the 11th, we'll be at Trump Doral holding a great event. | ||
| You can go to pastors4trump.com, pastors4, F-O-R, or the number four. | ||
| Either will work, pastors4trump.com, and they can register for our national prayer calls as well as our upcoming events. | ||
| Steve, we would love to have you up here at one of them. | ||
| Pastor, thank you very much for the invitation, and keep fighting. | ||
| Great work. Appreciate you. | ||
| Thank you for coming on, sir. Yes, sir. | ||
| Christian nationalism. This is the new vector of attack. | ||
| In the minds of the left, they see the power of what Jackson Lamar is talking about. | ||
| They understand that there's, I don't know, 30 million Christians that don't vote, that are not engaged. | ||
| A lot of those from the concept of I'm religious. | ||
| I don't want to get involved in the mundane of day-to-day politics. | ||
| Is that mentality acceptable anymore when we're on the edge of the abyss? | ||
| What they're doing is they're associating it with Nazism. | ||
| That's what they're doing. They're just putting the word Christian in there and then sending out the message that these are... | ||
| White Christian Nazis. Exactly. | ||
| That's what's going on here. | ||
| And I think we, as Christians... | ||
| Need to say, our culture must be built on the logos. | ||
| That's the Greek word, the word of God, who is Christ. | ||
| The word became flesh and dwelt among us. | ||
| They want to say, no, we're going to have a neutral society where there's a separation of church and state and Christianity has nothing to do with the public square. | ||
| If we settle for those rules, we lose every time. | ||
| Because the serpent is not neutral. | ||
| Exactly. It's not a neutral. Exactly. | ||
| Tell me why it's not neutral. | ||
| It's not neutral because, A, original sin, we're all tempted, right? | ||
| We all have a concupiscence bending us, tempting us towards sin. | ||
| And also, there is either God. | ||
| Logos, the word made flesh, or chaos? | ||
| Those are the two ends of the spectrum. | ||
| And we're always moving towards one or the other. | ||
| We're going towards an ordered society that is good, true, beautiful, where children thrive, families thrive, civilization grows and flowers, or we are tipping towards chaos, where we define reality. | ||
| We define marriage. | ||
| We define gender. | ||
| We define human transhumanism. | ||
| And whatever God has said about it gets cast out. | ||
| If we agree to those rules, we will lose. | ||
| The left knows if we agree. | ||
| So when they hear Christian, we want Christianity and politics. | ||
| They label it Christian nationalism, Nazism. | ||
| They know that if Christians start to assert Christ is king, logos in the public square, we win. | ||
| We automatically win. | ||
| Look at what happened from the time of Constantine. | ||
| All the way through up until the 1800s, Christian culture, where it was going, was thriving. | ||
| You see hospitals, you see orphanages, you see education, you see the entire flourishing of what we know as civilization. | ||
| And it was a blessing. | ||
| It was good. People benefited from it. | ||
| Were there problems? | ||
| Were there mistakes? Yes, we're a billion people. | ||
| Of course, there's all kinds of... | ||
| And we're humans. It's Exactly. | ||
| But in an imperfect world, it was building towards something for the greater good, where more people coming out of poverty. | ||
| And look, you had slavery, you had horrible, horrible things. | ||
| But you're working towards eradicating those. | ||
| Exactly. And so, you know, back in the 1300s, there was this new idea called nominalism. | ||
| And that was against realism. | ||
| And realism is the idea that everything in reality is defined, is real, because there is a God. | ||
| Socrates talks about this. | ||
| Plato talks about this. | ||
| Aristotle talks about this. | ||
| But in the 1300s, you have men like Ockham and others, and they start promoting this idea of nominalism. | ||
| And nominalism is the idea of giving things nomina, names, that we humans are naming reality. | ||
| This goes back to the 1300s. | ||
| This is really the root of what you just saw on TV of ripping up the Bible, of transgenderism, transhumanism. | ||
| We humans are defining reality. | ||
| We're defining what a flower is or what a dog is or what a squirrel is. | ||
| Once you begin to bite that apple and you start rolling that out from 1300 on to now, we are now defining everything. | ||
| God is gone. He is exiled, they believe. | ||
| And now we are the ones. | ||
| Man is the measure of all things, not God. | ||
| Secularism, a neutral public square, is always God defining things. | ||
| It is always nominalism. | ||
| It is philosophical nominalism, and it is danger. | ||
| Nominalism ultimately comes, we're talking in the break, comes to its full fruition in Nietzsche. | ||
| Will to power. | ||
| And we saw in the 1800s great theologians, great popes, Pius IX, Leo XIII, they were warning society that nominalism has come to full fruition and we are about to enter into, and I'm not going to hold back any words here, satanic revolution. | ||
| Pope Leo XIII had a vision of Satan and he went and he composed a prayer, the St. | ||
| Michael prayer, asking God, to bind satan upon earth because he knew we were about to enter into the most satanic century so far, the 1900s, and now we're even getting worse. | ||
| Even in Blake, there was no question about the satanic mills of London when he wrote Jerusalem. | ||
| But you go back to Pius IX, you've got Pius X, you get Leo, with the steam engine in the Industrial Revolution. | ||
| They saw, they were able to look downrange and see what these massive advances in technology that had much good it could do for the human race. | ||
| Also had the, just like the artificial intelligence, it has the kernel of great destructive power. | ||
| They saw the 20th century. | ||
| The power of their revolt against modernity there was that they saw, Nietzsche saw it and they saw it. | ||
| Right? Exactly. And they warned us. | ||
| That was the syllabus of errors and the oath against modernity. | ||
| They warned us about modernity. | ||
| Yes. And what's sad is, is we Christians, we had such a beautiful and strong intellectual tradition. | ||
| Catholics, Christians were conversant in these things. | ||
| And so many of us now think, well, yeah, like you said earlier, I'm a Christian, but I don't want to impose my beliefs on reality. | ||
| I'm just going to have, you know, my cross in my bedroom at home, and that's where it stays. | ||
| And that is not Christianity. | ||
| Jesus says, you are the salt of the earth. | ||
| You are the light of the nations. | ||
| You have to go out there and be salty. | ||
| What is salt worth if it loses its savor? | ||
| He says, go into all nations, teaching them what I've commanded you, and baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. | ||
| The book of Revelation talks about Christ's kingdom going to every tribe, tongue, and nation. | ||
| This is a universal global mandate because what God has called us to do is to know, love, and serve Him forever. | ||
| And His Logos, His Divine Son, must provide the rational paradigm, the rational holy matrix for how we live as humans. | ||
| And if we say that is regulated just to our hearts privately, quietly, it needs to be there, absolutely. | ||
| But what did Jesus say? From the overflow of the heart The mouth speaks. | ||
| That's what we're doing now. | ||
| We're speaking. And if we don't speak in the public square, we lose every time. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Dr. Taylor Marshall will join us when we return in the world. | ||
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Bring it on and I will fight to the end. | |
| Just watch and see. It's all started. | ||
| Everything's begun. | ||
| And you are over. | ||
| Cause we're taking down the CCP. Spread the word all through Hong Kong. | ||
| We will fight till they're all gone. | ||
| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
| Let's take down the CCP! Community outside of the virtual. | ||
| Rebellion comes in many forms to each and their own, within their own capabilities and their own situation. | ||
| For some of us, merely existing one more day is victory. | ||
| But for those of us who can we must stand up for those who cannot They're they're then doing the unbaptisms, right? | ||
| Great. | ||
| Tell me about this. This is a spiritual war right there. | ||
| You're seeing that they're stealing a march on us, are they not? | ||
| Yeah. And people say, oh, this is the new thing. | ||
| You're so brave for being trans or Satanist or whatever. | ||
| But imagine if they, we talk about the Quran, the Muslims would be out burning the hotel down where they were at. | ||
| She would have gotten about three pages into that rip. | ||
| I admire them. | ||
| I admire the fact of what they stand up for what they believe. | ||
| They would not let that happen. | ||
| And there's not one imam that would tell them to go down and pray in front of it. | ||
| I'm just saying. They wouldn't. | ||
| They'd say, hey, this is not going to happen on our watch. | ||
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| Catholics were going out there to pray outside the hotel, and the cardinal says, Stand down. | ||
| Don't go. Many Catholics went anyway. | ||
| And yet the same cardinal tells Catholics to go out and represent and protest for BLM. Of course. | ||
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That's an infiltration of the church. | |
| What do you mean by that? We have had over the last 150 years A planned assault on the church. | ||
| They learned from Diocletian up to Napoleon. | ||
| If you attack the church from without, you kill their leaders, kill their holy ones, you create martyrs. | ||
| And the seed of the church is the blood of the martyrs. | ||
| So after Napoleon, into the 1800s, they decided we cannot do external attacks on the church, on the Christians. | ||
| What we need to do is we need to worm our way in We need to infiltrate the ranks. | ||
| We need to get into the seminaries. | ||
| We need to get into the colleges. | ||
| We need to get into the priesthood and the pastors. | ||
| We need to get into the episcopate, the hierarchy, the cardinals. | ||
| And we have to attack it quietly, patiently from the inside. | ||
| They did that in the church. They did that in the countries, in the nations. | ||
| And so now, instead of having to fight against Diocletian or Nero or Napoleon, we have our own shepherds and pastors. | ||
| Pulling us down. Telling us, stand down. | ||
| Go out for BLM. Go out for immigration or go out for Joe Biden even. | ||
| They'll stand up and take pictures of Joe Biden. | ||
| But when it comes to standing up for Christ against Satanism or ripping up a Bible, stay home. | ||
| Don't get involved with that. | ||
| You shall know them by their fruits. | ||
| You know, the great stoic dictum in Latin, octa Nonverba. | ||
| Actions, not words. | ||
| If you want to know if someone truly serves the Lord, actions, not words. | ||
| It's easy to say, I believe. | ||
| You must have works, you know? | ||
| If you love me, Jesus says, you'll obey my commandments. | ||
| There needs to be an outward overflow from the heart. | ||
| And we have these hierarchs, these pastors, these cardinals who are infiltrated. | ||
| And, you know, they never came out and said, vote for Joe Biden. | ||
| But they took photos. | ||
| They posted pictures of Biden and Pope Francis together. | ||
| They definitely pushed that. | ||
| And Pelosi. Biden goes to Rome. | ||
| He meets with the Pope. Pope says, go to communion. | ||
| And yet he stands for, he's completely opposed to what the Bible teaches about marriage, holy matrimony, about gender, sexuality, about the sanctity of life. | ||
| All of these things, he is not only neutral, he is opposed. | ||
| And yet you have all these pastors and all their robes and their finery and they are endorsing this. | ||
| And we need to not only acknowledge that Christians have been duped by not speaking in the public square, but we've also been duped because these so-called shepherds, and Jesus talks about this. | ||
| He said, there are shepherds and there are hirelings, and the sheep know the voice of the shepherd. | ||
| That means we sheep, we lay people, have to listen. | ||
| And Jesus promises us there'll be false pastors, false shepherds. | ||
| A lot of people say, when I say these things, like, well, you're speaking against the church. | ||
| How can you say these are the bishops of the church? | ||
| You can't say these things. | ||
| Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ multiple times in the four Gospels said there will be false shepherds. | ||
| False prophets. | ||
| There will be wolves in sheep's clothing. | ||
| I mean, this is a major part of the message of Jesus Christ. | ||
| Amongst the twelve apostles, one was Judas. | ||
| So this idea of infiltration and of bad shepherds, false leaders, wolves in sheep's clothing, is as old as Christianity itself. | ||
| It's in the apostolic college, and it's in the teaching of Jesus. | ||
| And so to be truly Christian is to heed What our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. | ||
| And that is, the sheep hear the voice of the shepherd. | ||
| There are wolves among us. | ||
| And we got to follow the shepherd. | ||
| Ultimately, the greatest shepherd is our Lord, Jesus Christ. | ||
| How do people find out more about your work? | ||
| Twitter, taylorrmarshall.com. | ||
| But most people follow me on YouTube, Dr. | ||
| Taylor Marshall on YouTube. | ||
| And how often is the show? | ||
| Do you have a regular show? About every day. | ||
| I've been traveling this week. | ||
| Of course, I'm in D.C. now. | ||
| So when I'm not in the studio, of course, it's hard to... | ||
| Is there a set time for the show? | ||
| Usually 2 p.m. | ||
| Central. 2 p.m. Central. That's usually when I go live. | ||
| So that'd be 3 o'clock East Coast. | ||
| And the show normally takes an hour? | ||
| An hour. An hour. | ||
| And you do it every day that you're in Texas? | ||
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Pretty much, yeah. Are you also teaching anywhere? | |
| So I run the New St. | ||
| Thomas Institute. So it's an online institute and we teach philosophy, theology, apologetics, church history, We have a whole course on the Latin Mass and the Roman Rite, Old Testament, New Testament. | ||
| And the idea is a lot of people want to go back to school and study Aristotle or Thomas Aquinas, but they're not going to go enroll in a college. | ||
| So we create and deliver online courses. | ||
| So you sign up and it's just a monthly membership. | ||
| One more time, how do people get to all of that? | ||
| nsti.com, N-S-T-I.com, New St. | ||
| Thomas Institute. And then what's your social media? | ||
| At Twitter, Taylor R. Marshall. | ||
| Fabulous. Okay, Charlie Kirk, two hours of populist nationalism served up hot as only Charlie Kirk can serve it and the great team there. | ||
| I know Jack Posovic's over in Hungary right now with this incredible CPAC. I want to thank Dr. | ||
| Taylor Marshall for coming back for this very special dinner. | ||
| We'll talk about more of that next week and joining us here in the war room. | ||
| Fantastic wingman. Teed up the Christian nationalist pastors quite well. | ||
| Thank you very much. Okay, we're going to be back here 5 to 7. | ||
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