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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
The reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
ben bergquam
The people have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
Is it safe to get vaccinated while you're breastfeeding?
Is it safe to get vaccinated while you're breastfeeding?
It absolutely is safe to get vaccinated.
So I would say if you are thinking about getting vaccinated, there is no bad time to get vaccinated.
Get vaccinated while you're thinking about having a baby, before you're thinking about having a baby, while you're pregnant with your baby, or after you've delivered your baby.
There is no bad time.
...to the fight against coronavirus.
The World Health Organization announcing today that COVID-19 is no longer qualified as a global emergency.
The WHO does note, however, while the emergency phase is now over, the pandemic is not, noting recent spikes in Asia and the Middle East.
Here at home, we're learning today that CDC Director Walensky, who led the U.S. response to COVID under President Biden, is set to leave at the end of June.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome. You're in the War Room.
It is Friday, 5 May in the year of our Lord, 2023.
Let's bring in Naomi Wolf.
Naomi, tell us what happened today.
I'm confused. Did the head of CDC, did she resign?
Was she fired? You know, we don't believe in conspiracy theories here in the war room, but they're no coincidence, Naomi.
WHO said the pandemic's over today.
Next week on the 11 May, I think it's Thursday, the White House has been forced to, as you know, take off the emergency measures.
Was she going to leave anyway, or did she get shoved out the door, ma'am?
naomi wolf
For sure.
This has all the hallmarks of her getting pushed very abruptly and aggressively out the door.
I mean, if people are going to be used as part of the showcasing of what an administration is proud of, they don't Get a press release with no advance notice, no round of adoring articles and features abruptly from the president himself announcing that she's leaving.
If this is something they were going to campaign on in 2024, they wouldn't boot her so unceremoniously.
It's a very short And even though they're ticking all the boxes of, yes, she's really served her country at a very scary time, it's kind of icy.
Compared to the embrace that people who are seen as a benefit to a re-election campaign as opposed to a liability are...
steve bannon
No, no. This would have been...
You've messaged... You've been a top political consultant.
They would have done the Sunday shows.
They said she's leaving at the end of June.
This is so terrific. We all love her.
It was kind of curt. Naomi Wolf, this is a big scalp for you.
You've been on this one from the beginning.
Why did she particularly trigger, not emotionally, but your movement, Daily Clout, Children's Health Defense, the people that have been at the leading edge of, I would say, vaccine hesitancy or full knowledge, informed consent movement.
Why? Almost more than Fauci, the good doctor.
unidentified
Why was that, ma'am? I mean, I wouldn't say it's emotional at all.
naomi wolf
I think that because she's a sort of an affluent suburban mom with a nice haircut, she really got a pass and she's actually a mass murderer.
So I think that she hasn't been held to the fire.
There's a lot of kind of justification and kind of exoneration of her preemptively, but that has to come to a crashing halt.
dr naomi wolf
I do think it's a scalp.
You know, I try never to take undue credit for the work of the volunteers in the War Room Daily collaboration with these 3,500 experts going through the Pfizer documents.
naomi wolf
But this timeline is stunning, what preceded And by the way, you know, when we're noting that she's kind of being booted according to the hallmarks, one thing you don't see is, you know, JPMorgan Chase or the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation declaring proudly that, you know, she has a next role that they've rolled out a red carpet for her with.
So a lot of things are missing.
It's sudden. What happened on Sunday, this past Sunday, our very own Amy Kelly, We now refer to as the amazing Amy Kelly, the War Room Daily Club, Pfizer Documents Project Director, and our COO stayed up all weekend going through the latest tranche of documents released by the FDA through this court order that you're all familiar with.
In this latest tranche released in April, there is the most stunning document of all the documents I've brought to your attention and the Posse's attention in this year in which we've been doing this together.
This document led to Report 69 and basically what I'm going to tell you is it's a bombshell and I'll go into the details if you like in which it became clear that Pfizer knew by April 20th of 2021 that Babies had died or been severely injured, both through their mom's vaccination and through lactation from their moms, if their moms were vaccinated, that babies sustained...
unidentified
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
steve bannon
Give me that one more time.
You're saying two years ago, essentially, in April 2021, on 20 April 2021, they knew what specifically?
naomi wolf
They knew that the vaccine led to extremely high levels of spontaneous abortion and miscarriage, And also injuries to the babies, adverse events in over 54 cases of, quote, maternal exposure to the vaccine.
But this also includes before they were pregnant.
You remember in that clip, Dr.
Walensky was saying, it doesn't matter when you're vaccinated, before you get pregnant, while you're pregnant, after you're pregnant.
dr naomi wolf
This document shows that Pfizer and the FDA knew, and thus the CDC knew, that even exposure before you're pregnant, and remember elsewhere in the documents, Pfizer defines exposure as, Inhalation, skin contact, and sexual intercourse with a vaccinated male,
naomi wolf
right? Even before you're pregnant, that can lead to the outcomes in this book, including 21 % of these moms and babies, these babies sustained spontaneous abortion, 51, abortion one, abortion missed one following the vaccination, fetal tachycardia, heartbeats above 180 beats per minute, Six premature labor and delivery cases, two newborn deaths.
Extreme prematurity was one cause of death with pneumothorax, which is the air leaking out of the tiny baby's lungs and collecting between the lung and the tiny baby's chest wall.
And also newborn severe respiratory distress was the cause of another death.
And this is exactly what my interview Two years later, with California midwife Ellen Jasmer, confirmed that she's seeing newborn babies who seem fine, but they have pneumothorax.
They go home, they're in respiratory distress, their tiny lungs are leaking air.
So this document in the Pfizer documents calmly noted that babies were being damaged.
In the course of the vaccination.
Additionally, this document notes that 19 % or 41 out of 215 of the babies in Pfizer's records exposed to the COVID mRNA vaccine via their mother's breast milk We're recorded as suffering from 48 different categories of adverse events.
And here you have a chart, like the chart I called to everyone's attention about menstrual disorders, where Pfizer just calmly, in this Mengele-like way, scientifically lists all the horrible ways they're torturing tiny babies through poisoned breast milk.
Pyrexia, fever, infant irritability, diarrhea, illness, suppressed lactation, breast milk discoloration.
Infantile vomiting, lethargy, pain, peripheral coldness, agitation, angioedema, the swelling of the face, tongue, larynx, abdomen, arms, legs, hives, cough, dysgeusia, dysphonia, eyelid blearing, droopy eyelids, swollen lymph nodes.
These are tiny babies, skin exfoliation, their skin peeling off, vision blurred.
This is from nursing their moms with their vaccinated moms.
You just heard Rochelle Walensky say, it's fine to breastfeed your baby if you're vaccinated.
She knew about this.
She knew that the babies had died from their moms being injected.
She knew about this, quote, skin exfoliation and infant irritability.
We don't know if this baby survived.
A nine-month-old infant.
Rash and urticaria a day after exposure via lactation.
We don't know if that baby survived.
Baby developed a rash after breastfeeding.
That baby's recorded as not recovered.
An eight-month-old infant experiencing angioedema, swelling of the lower layer of skin and tissue, Just under the skin or mucous membranes.
One day after his nursing mom received vaccination, the outcome was unknown.
We don't know if that baby survived.
Two cases reporting illness after exposure via breast milk.
A three-month-old infant developed an unspecified illness and required hospitalization for six days post-exposure via breast milk.
And that infant was marked as, quote, recovering.
So we don't know if that infant ever recovered.
So this was signed off on.
All these dead babies, all of these spontaneous abortions, this 51 % adverse outcomes, these 20 % of babies suffering from nursing, from vaccinated moms.
The knowledge that the cause of this was exposure even before pregnancy.
The knowledge that Pfizer defined exposure as inhalation skin contact, sexual intercourse for vaccinated males.
This went to Rochelle Walensky.
Three days later, I just have to tell you this, she issued a press conference out of the White House With this in hand, these dead babies in hand, this report and told the women of America that it was safe and effective and that she recommended that they receive this mRNA vaccination if they were pregnant.
steve bannon
Hang on one second. I want to play that.
Can we, Denver, can we play the clip again?
unidentified
Let me see it again. Is it safe to get vaccinated while you're breastfeeding?
It absolutely is safe to get vaccinated.
So I would say if you are thinking about getting vaccinated, there is no bad time to get vaccinated.
Get vaccinated while you're thinking about having a baby, before you're thinking about having a baby, while you're pregnant with your baby, or after you've delivered your baby.
There is no bad time.
steve bannon
Does that raise to the level you referred to her and I realize You're a Yale educator.
You have a PhD. You're one of the smartest people we know.
You referred to Dr. Walensky as a mass murderer.
What do you mean by that?
naomi wolf
Well, this document is an open and shut piece of evidence that premeditated murder on a grand scale is what we're looking at.
This document, as they say in tech, This document proves it's not a bug, it's a feature.
And I've used that phrase a lot in interviews since this bombshell report came out.
This document shows that they knew this injection would kill babies, that they knew this injection would cause spontaneous abortions.
This was, again, April 20th, 2021.
How many millions, if not billions, of childbearing age women or pregnant women or women who plan to get pregnant have been injected since They knew that it would kill babies at a dramatic rate or cause babies to have inability to breathe, right? Let me just jump in here.
steve bannon
You're saying in April, the 20 April of 21, it was in the first quarter Just after the first quarter of the Biden regime taking over and your point is knowing what these documents you say that and these are their documents show they could have waved off it right then or they could have said hey this trial is not going well and we particularly with women particularly with nursing women they had tons of alternatives given it was really in the beginning of the ramp up of the role of the vaccine is that am I correct in that?
naomi wolf
Well, I'm saying something much more serious.
You know, I've said throughout that my teams keep finding evidence that Pfizer was looking very deeply at reproduction.
Pfizer was, you know, mating rats that were vaccinated and then sacrificing them and then examining the cells of their sex organs, right, for a respiratory virus.
Pfizer was looking at women's menstruation and finding that they were ruining it in, you know, 20 different disgusting ways.
So Pfizer was looking.
This report, it's not like, oh, we happen to see dead babies.
They set out to look at pregnancy and lactation, found the babies dying, and then they rolled it out on a scale.
steve bannon
Hang on, we're going to keep you into the next break, Naomi.
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So, Naomi Wolf, you've got to keep it simple for me.
You say it's a feature, not a bug.
I want everybody to understand, and this book's incredible.
I know you've got a new edition out, and it's just incredible, and you're adding to it all the time.
This is 3,500 members of the War Room.
with Amy Kelly, the Chief Operating Officer over at Daily Clap, plus all these doctors and lawyers who volunteered, a total volunteer effort on something that is going to set the basis for setting things right or at least understanding it.
When you say it's a feature, not a bug, what do you mean by that?
naomi wolf
Let me explain this just as clearly as I can.
If it's just a greedy company that is sloppy and cutting corners, if A report comes in showing dead babies, spontaneous abortions, and that more than half of the moms exposed during pregnancy had either serious problems or catastrophic problems, you don't go ahead.
dr naomi wolf
You immediately pull this off the market.
naomi wolf
You certainly don't send the director of the CDC to say it's safe and effective and roll out a huge propaganda campaign Lying to pregnant women saying that they have to get vaccinated in order to protect their babies.
Also, when I say it's a feature, not a bug, this document shows two things no woman in America or in the world was told.
One of them is that there is exposure, Pfizer defines exposure to the vaccine as occurring before pregnancy in a bunch of ways women were not told about, including having sex with their vaccinated husbands, that that could In some way, harm the fetus.
dr naomi wolf
That's what Pfizer is saying here.
And the other thing women were not told in any way, shape or form, in fact, we broke the story about five months ago from elsewhere in the Pfizer documents, is that nursing your tiny newborn baby could poison your baby.
And in this document, and it's right there on dailycloud.io, don't take my word for it, the whole eight-page document is reproduced at the foot of this report.
naomi wolf
Read it. It says exactly that, that these people knew that more than half of the moms and babies would have something horrible happen to them and that a significant number of babies died, that there was a catastrophic number of spontaneous abortions and other horrific problems that now two years later are the exact horrific problems like placentas falling apart, that independent midwives And fetal maternal medicine specialists like Dr.
dr naomi wolf
James Thorpe are saying they're seeing at scale in their practices.
naomi wolf
Two years ago, Pfizer knew this would happen, and they went ahead.
So what I'm trying to say is that this injection causes these symptoms.
Look at the numbers.
Just look for yourself, everyone, at the bottom of it says confidential in big letters, and then it says page two.
And among there were 458 cases lifted out and of these of maternal exposure to the vaccine of the 210 of them either had nothing bad happen or something bad happened that they write off with another category that they invent.
Then they say of the remaining 248 cases, most of them, most of them, more than 50%, The most commonly reported AEs were off-label use, pain, headache,
abortion spontaneous, 51, fatigue, pyrexia, chills, myalgia, nausea, athralgia, dizziness, melez, lymphadenopathy, and asthenia, six cases of adverse events related to premature deliveries, fetal tachycardia, this racing heartbeat, A 29-year-old mom who was pregnant who had a rupture of membranes.
A baby case of a fetus who received the vaccine across the placenta.
They didn't tell you that would happen.
We told you because of how lipid nanoparticles traverse the placenta.
Pfizer knew when they were telling moms, this cannot cross the placenta.
Your baby's safe. Here's this tiny baby of unspecified gender, a disposable baby, who's receiving the vaccination through the placenta and the mom had premature labor, alive, infant was delivered, but passed away a day later.
Cause of death was cited as extreme prematurity with severe respiratory distress and pneumothorax.
Exactly what nurse midwife Ellen Jasmer is saying She's seeing at scale now.
There's a baby, a 32-year-old mom received the vaccine, second trimester, preterm, premature rupture of membranes, premature baby outcome.
It was recovered, but But we don't know what happened to that baby.
Neonate patient's mother, 37 years old, fetal exposure during pregnancy.
What does that even mean? Right?
They're not telling us. Premature baby less than 26 weeks, respiratory distress and pneumothorax, the leaking air out of the tiny lungs.
Cause of death for the neonate newborn was premature baby less than 26 weeks and severe respiratory distress and pneumothorax.
dr naomi wolf
And a 33-year-old mom had a preterm delivery at 24 weeks and two days via emergency C-section.
naomi wolf
The fetus experienced maternal exposure during pregnancy via transplacental route on an unspecified date.
They didn't tell us it could cross the placenta.
There were 53 reports of spontaneous abortion.
This paragraph alone is why I say that it's a feature, not a bug.
51 abortion, one abortion missed.
Of these reports, four cases were COVID positive and 13 cases had relevant medical history of endometriosis.
Abortion spontaneous. One patient had a medical history of COVID-19.
The remaining 39 cases are summarized in Table 1.
Now here are all the dead babies, all the fetuses in this neutral little table.
dr naomi wolf
You know, spontaneous abortion, spontaneous abortion, spontaneous abortion, spontaneous abortion, spontaneous abortion, spontaneous abortion.
naomi wolf
And then there's the next page, page six, which is a chart of horrible things that happen to babies because they're breastfeeding.
And not anyone ever said you can transmit the vaccine through your breast milk and it will poison your baby, including very serious outcomes like skin exfoliation, as I mentioned, and vision blurred.
And then there's 10 serious adverse events, 8-month-old baby, 9-month-old baby, 15-month-old baby, Illness through breast milk, six months old, hospitalized, three months old.
Most of the moms and babies, most of the moms and babies got horribly sick or the babies died or the fetus didn't make it to birth.
So it's a it's a feature, not a bug.
You have a vaccine or an injection.
It's not a vaccine in which literally most of the moms and babies that you're looking at are exposed in ways you're not telling the population moms and babies can be exposed.
dr naomi wolf
And then you're exposing them through breast milk, which you keep a secret also, that the exposure to the lipid nanoparticles polyethylene glycol is in mom's breast milk now.
naomi wolf
And these babies are hospitalized and dying, and they can't breathe, and their tiny lungs aren't working, and their skin is peeling off, and their vision is blurred.
And then you give this to Rochelle Walensky, this report.
She calls a White House press conference and says, this is safe and effective.
We recommend that pregnant women take this vaccine.
You know, there is no way to conclude that they weren't looking at exactly these outcomes.
There's no way to conclude that they wouldn't know that more than half of the moms exposed to this injection in ways they're not being honest to us about are going to have problems.
dr naomi wolf
That's what this says.
steve bannon
Did Pfizer, real quickly, has Pfizer responded to any of the reports that you've put out off of their data, off the information they were forced by a federal court?
Remember, this information was supposed to be held for 75 years.
We wouldn't be talking about this until almost the turn of the 21st century, the 22nd century.
Have they responded to any of your reports?
naomi wolf
So, Pfizer has like thousands of lawyers.
And they could sue us for the rest of our lives if there was anything wrong in these reports.
dr naomi wolf
We haven't had a single lawyer's letter.
We haven't had a single even press response, spokesperson response, nothing.
steve bannon
Was it Dr.
Walensky's responsibility? Got about a minute.
Was her responsibility to tell the American people about this, given that she had this information?
Obviously. Naomi, how do people get to Daily Cloud or have you back on?
I'll track it. Maybe we'll do it tomorrow morning.
How do people get to you?
Social media, how they get to the book, all of it?
naomi wolf
Yeah. So the book is the War Room Daily Cloud Pfizer Documents Research Analysis Reports.
It's on Amazon. Please get it because it'll save people's lives.
dr naomi wolf
It's already saving people's lives.
naomi wolf
And you can look at all the reports for free on dailyclout.io.
dr naomi wolf
And this latest, again, see for yourself.
naomi wolf
It's all right there. Amy Kelly's Report 69 is right there on dailyclout.io.
dr naomi wolf
And we do live in, you know, we survive on your support.
So please do continue to help us do this work.
steve bannon
It was one of the top Amazon books.
It's now out in print. We'll make sure we get it up everywhere.
I'll call you after the show and we'll figure out maybe tomorrow too.
This is too big a story.
And Naomi, congratulations.
Dr. Lewinsky has either resigned, been pushed out, fired, or just decided to walk away.
But thank you very much, ma'am, for your diligence on this.
naomi wolf
It is a group effort, and thank you to you and the Posse.
steve bannon
Dr. Naomi Wolf, thank you very much.
Okay, short commercial break. We're going to go to El Salvador.
There happens to be an invasion of your beloved country taking place right now.
The people in Laredo and El Paso can talk about it.
Ben Burkham, Oscar Blue Ramirez, next in The War Room.
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Let's go to El Salvador. Ben Burquam, Oscar Blue Ramirez, the investigative team for Real America's Voice.
Guys, thousands of miles north of you, there's an invasion on our country from Laredo, El Paso, Brownsville, all up and down the rear, Grand Valley, Tijuana.
You guys are down at the heart of it.
You take it, go back and forth.
Tell us about your trip to El Salvador.
What is the lesson El Salvador has to teach America?
ben bergquam
Well, first off, we should make America more like El Salvador right now.
You've got a president in Bukele who puts their country first.
We actually got to interview the minister of security for the country.
He's the number two right below President Bukele yesterday, Via Toro.
And what was incredible, when we get this interview up, it's going to blow your mind.
One of the things he said, and this is just a mindset change that everyone in the country, especially any representative that represents the people of America, needs to consider.
They don't consider the rights of the criminals down here anymore.
They consider the rights of the citizens, the law-abiding citizens, and they deal with the criminals.
And what they've done is they've declared war.
They declare the gangs, MS-13, Terrorist combatants and they went after them as if they were enemy combatants on their soil and that's what how they changed they went from the worst the highest crime the most deadly country in the world per capita to one of the safest if not the safest country in the world today simply by changing that strategy and that mindset We had the opportunity to tour two places that really just opened it up for us.
One of the prisons that used to be the most deadly prison, again, in the world, where they had a riot one time and they cut one of the guards' heads off and used the head as a soccer ball.
Now that prison has turned into a rehabilitation prison.
Center for the prisoners.
They're changing their lives, turning their lives around, giving them skills.
And then yesterday we had the opportunity to go to one of the cemeteries that had been taken over by MS-13.
And Bukele went in and he said, we're not allowing this celebration of these terrorists.
And they destroyed the headstones and the graves of these terrorists so the family members couldn't go back and celebrate these demons.
It's an entire different mindset.
And while they're doing that in America, we're going the opposite direction.
We're coddling thugs like BLM and Antifa, and we're allowing our country to be invaded.
It's just the opposite of what America is.
But bottom line is, Bukele is very similar to Trump, and really that's the solution for America right now.
I just pray we make it two more years, Oscar.
oscar blue ramirez
Going back to Villatoro, I asked this question to him.
at the moment, and I said, because it's just a copy-paste of what happened to President Trump.
It's just exactly what happened to him, because the globalist organizations, they used to attack relentlessly Donald Trump consistently.
And I asked him, what do you think about these leftist organizations that they're considering Bukele as a dictator?
And he said, you have to come over here.
and see what we have done.
You have to come over here and ask the people what we have done.
And also he addressed the globalist organizations and he said to them, these are the people that they have created the crisis in our country.
These are the people that they have stole the funds in our country.
These are the people that have stole from the poor and not get back to the poor.
So it's holding accountable the globalist organizations, holding accountable the left.
And one of the things that I loved about this guy And all the things that he has said is that he labeled all these people as terrorists.
He was really clear about it, not gangs, terrorists.
So it was really an impactful interview that we're going to give you guys later on, as this video is going to be really important for you guys.
And ultimately, the cemetery also, Mr.
Bannon, that it was something that it was, you know, so important to say that how these gangs took away the peace of the citizens of that particular place.
So it was really amazing.
ben bergquam
Even in death. Even in death, yes.
The peace of the people. And now it's back.
steve bannon
Let me ask that. Let me ask.
I'm going to go back to the beginning on the calling terrorist.
In the culture and society down there, Is that too much?
Do families not have even the right to pray for their dead?
Or have they crossed the line so horrifically?
Because we mentioned MS-13 here in the United States.
You hear President Trent talk about it.
They're the most evil of the evil.
They're the ones that cut the little girl's arms off.
They are the ones that figure out the most brutal way to torture somebody before they kill them.
Are those types going to that level?
Oscar, let me start with you.
Is it going to that level that even from their families you take away the ability to mourn them?
oscar blue ramirez
Yes. And, you know, one of the stories, Francisco Martinez, the general manager of the cemetery, he was telling us what they used to do.
They used to visit the cemetery and they used to infiltrate them in different places to bury these guys, but they did not pay for the place.
They illicitly took over the cemetery place and buried them.
But if you wanted to visit Your family member and your family member was next to a gang member and they were there.
They will actually tax you to visit them.
They will actually extortion you to visit them.
And in the worst case scenarios, if you they ask you for your ID and if your ID was not from that neighborhood, you can badly be hurt.
You can not walk out of there alive or you have to pay a huge amount of money, Ben.
ben bergquam
Just to give you an idea, Steve, from the cultural standpoint, Bukele has over 90 % support, and this is not a pie-in-the-sky number.
This is what we've experienced.
I have not found a single person that has said anything but good about Bukele, and it's not out of fear, it's out of reverence.
They look at this guy as the savior of their country.
They're a very godly country.
They look at God as their savior, Christ as their savior, but this is the guy that God has sent To restore peace to their lives.
And so, no, it is not too far.
And as Oscar was saying, they would go, and if you were going to visit your child, we went to the area of the cemetery where the children were buried.
They said if MS-13 was there, MS-13 would take over the entire cemetery.
They would have parties to worship the dead.
They would have sex.
They would do drugs. And if you showed up on that day, they would extort you, as Oscar said, or they would terrorize you.
They'd beat you up. They'd kill you in this very cemetery.
So the people, when this happened here, the people were celebrating it because they have been so under the thumb.
I mean, it really is. It was like going from hell to heaven for the people that live here.
And back to the families, many of the families that were complaining about this.
This is a family affair.
So when you had somebody who was in the gangs, what we're being told is it wasn't just them.
It wasn't just the guys with the face tattoos.
It was their family members.
It was their cousins. It was their brothers.
They would go and extort the businesses as well.
So it was all of the people involved with these demons that were really now being held accountable to the point where they say, you know what?
And it wasn't that they were just saying, we're going to destroy your grave because we don't like you.
They actually were celebrating MS-13 on the gravestones.
That was the big thing. That was the reason why they destroyed these, because they were actually celebrating these men who killed so many people.
So I would say absolutely not.
It wasn't a step too far.
If anything, it was what the population deserves.
steve bannon
Okay, Oscar, let me go to you and then to Ben.
What he has done that is so heroic is to be able to look as used to be gold or lead, right?
We're either going to bribe you and take a bribery and get a bullet.
Is this model of what he did in El Salvador?
Can that be done to save Mexico?
Because let's be blunt. The cartels control Mexico and the cartels control much of the Rio Grande Valley in certain aspects of South Texas and Arizona.
Can this model be used in Mexico and in certain segments of the United States?
Oscar Blue, you first, then Ben.
oscar blue ramirez
Absolutely. And I ask this question to the Minister of Security, Villatoro.
Your model is almost done perfectly into a way that hopefully it can trickle to Central America and it can ricochet into Mexico and ultimately into the borders with the United States.
What can we do to grab this model into the governments of other countries so they can grab it also and start implementing?
And he said they will not have another chance.
They will not have another option.
They will look at us. And the population is going to demand of what we're doing is going to be demand to be done also in their country.
So hopefully law and order will have this wave, Mr.
Bannon, from coming to El Salvador, to Honduras, to Nicaragua, and ultimately to Mexico.
And in terms to Mexico, there's no other way.
You have to go hard with these people, as Bukeles did.
You have to just apply law and order and give back the power to the people.
ben bergquam
Yeah, and Steve, I think the biggest point on all of this is it had to get that bad here in order for this to work.
The people demanded it.
It wasn't Bukele's idea.
It was the citizens of this country said, we're tired of being treated this way, and we deserve better than this.
Law-abiding citizens deserve better than this, and that's what has to come.
It has to be that populist uprising, and it can happen anywhere, but that's what has to happen.
Mindset has to change to where we put the lives and the humanity of the law-abiding citizens above that of the criminals.
If we do that, we call them terrorists, we treat them as enemy combatants, it can be done anywhere.
steve bannon
Oscar, we've got about a minute.
El Paso's under state of emergency.
Lareda's under state of emergency.
Title 42's coming off.
There's legislation they're trying to push through this weekend.
There's other people talking about going to court.
It's total chaos.
What are you hearing with your connection, sir?
oscar blue ramirez
I'm quite surprised that the Mexican government hasn't done anything.
I just saw the border patrol of the United States in El Paso throwing tear gas into the canal that divides Juarez and also El Paso.
I'm extremely surprised that the Mexican government has not done anything, that it has not gone over there.
And, you know, and try to stop this from creating a huge confrontation between two borders.
But what I'm hearing in the parts of Tijuana is that a lot of the people are preparing in a way to go to the border peacefully, quote unquote, to ask for the United States of America to let them in.
As we're seeing the example in El Paso, that is not peaceful.
That is actually, you can consider it an act of war as attacking border agents consistently with throwing them rocks and going back and forth and insulting them.
That is who you are inviting, Biden administration and Mallorcas, to your country.
steve bannon
Ben, give me a minute before we get a bounce.
ben bergquam
Yeah, this is it. The walls are being breached.
Our country's being invaded.
We're being overrun, and we have no leadership to stop it.
It's very concerning.
It's up to the people of this country.
We need a populist movement in America.
We need the states to rise up.
We need governors to have the balls and the courage to do what's necessary to stop this.
If not, it's the death of our country.
But I believe the people, the American citizens, have the...
The fortitude to stand up, and I believe that uprising is coming.
So I believe in America.
I believe God wins in the end, and we're a part of that.
We'll be back there. I'll be back there next week on the border exposing it as well.
steve bannon
How do people get to the content, your content over the weekend?
ben bergquam
America's Voice.News, our next episode, new episode, will be dropping next Saturday, and then we've got that mini-series that's part of the mini-series that we'll be following after that.
FrontlineAmerica.com for all of our articles, and then at Ben Berquam on all social media.
oscar blue ramirez
Oscar? OscarBlueRamirez.com, at OscarBlue, at all social media, and of course, Real America's Voice News, and also Law& Border with the great Ben Berquam, sir.
steve bannon
Guys, fantastic reporting.
I know you've done a great job.
Be safe and look forward to, if not talking to you tomorrow, then early next week.
Real America's Voice, Ben Berquan, Oscar Blue Ramirez in El Salvador.
Incredible report. Yes, the tear gas has been used in El Paso.
The invasion commences.
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We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CCP!
Day of our life...
Hail our enemy!
Hail our nation!
Hail our citizens!
Hail our nation!
Hail our citizens!
Let them continue without fierce opposition, and we stand here today in defiance of their siege and destroy their symbols of oppression.
Symbols of oppression.
Thank you.
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steve bannon
Isn't the issue, you got these parents, and it just takes a couple kids, because the way they're selling it, we played the jingles on, and showed the videos on Saturday.
I think my sister was here. She brought it up, because a lot of people she knows are worried about this.
They make it into self-empowerment.
They don't really, you're not having the, they're not sacrificing animals.
Right? They're not doing black mass at the beginning.
They're looking at it as a self-empowerment tool.
If you look at this, it's all the modern, you know, the 21st century modernism's, you know, self-help therapy is all this.
The kid can be self-empowered.
They can have self-respect.
They do all this.
Isn't the issue, does any of these get traction at all?
Maybe they don't start with anybody, but you just get one or two kids that get sucked into this.
Next thing you know, you've got a third of the school is there for self-empowerment and they're leading them down the path.
It may start with agnostic and atheism, but it leads down to, as bad as that is, as horrible as that is, it leads you down to something actually more perverted, sir?
mat staver
I agree with you, Steve.
That's certainly right.
On the one hand, oftentimes there are a flash in the pan and they fizzle out.
On the other hand, they're not sacrificing people or animals as part of their rituals, but they're playing with fire with these Satanic symbols or they call themselves satanic clubs and now they're going into these self-help issues.
And the problem is not whether you have a lot of these proliferate.
I don't think you will. But even having some of them, you're going to have kids that get involved in some of these clubs.
And the consequences, although they may look like fun and games at the beginning, Are going to be problematic the longer that they're led down this false path.
unidentified
I'm going to show you an interview of former Trump propaganda Steve Bannon interviewing a crazy person.
Now, I don't say that lightly.
OK, one of the things in this clip that I'm going to show you, this this is bonkers stuff.
I wouldn't let children see this.
It's so disturbing. Steve Bannon interviews a woman named Mary Beth.
Is that her first name?
Is that her first and middle name?
Is that her first and last name?
We have no idea. Her name is Mary Beth, supposedly.
And Mary Beth says she believes that the satanic temple is secretly sending recruiters to school in after school programs to recruit and even grab children.
Think about that for a second.
And Steve Bannon, I guess, kind of pretends like Mary Beth is a sane person.
And one of the what's the point here?
Mental health, very serious issue not to be stigmatized.
We want everybody to have access to mental health services.
It's not a joke or any of it.
OK, the point here is.
Much. Of what the right has normalized as political discourse is the sort of stuff that really should be handled by mental health professionals.
Let's listen. If it isn't in your school system, it will be soon.
So please be on the lookout for it.
Like I said, it kind of snuck up on us.
We had no idea. I've told people about it.
They think I'm crazy when I talk about it.
Yeah. But Google it, look for it and definitely look for it in your school system.
steve bannon
I would go to an after-school program or you're one of the parents have to work and they got to stay after school on other things and the satanic people are wandering around the school hall because trust me, they'll be looking to grab these kids and put them in there.
unidentified
So that's very concerning to me.
Yeah. The satanic temple has infiltrated after school programs.
This is crazy stuff.
And the fact that Steve Bannon has her on and sort of pretends like this is a real concern, this is that this is a normal thing fuels a crisis in this country.
And I want to what's it's so difficult to address this topic I don't want to be disrespectful nor minimize mental illness.
We also have to be clear that there are certain things that it's not just the difference of opinion.
It's something much more pernicious and more than that.
steve bannon
Okay. That's brother Dave Pakman.
He's got a show.
And that's his analysis. And we're doing this as a teaching exercise.
Many of you remember that interview from a couple of weeks ago.
But we also played the Liberty Council who came on afterwards and talked about this is a real thing.
It's not mental. But you see how the left, what they want to do immediately, they don't want to address.
They never want to talk about what the thing is.
They never want to talk about what the issue is.
They always want to...
Do an end-around or do something to take your eye off the ball, right?
We're not going to fall for that.
We know that these satanic clubs and the Liberty Council has a different viewpoint than many of the parents that are in these school systems have.
The Liberty Counselor says his theory of the case, and they're all over it, their theory of the case is that, hey, they're trying to get out the Christian after-school programs that they're like 4,000 now or 3,000, some huge amount of these after-school programs that they're using as legally to get rid of.
The parents are sitting there going, hey, maybe they are, maybe they are, but I see it.
And they're coming out with these little jingles.
Remember, we played the jingle in the song.
And they're going to use this for self-empowerment and self-reliance.
And next thing you know, they're going to be tearing up the Bible up there in Boston at SatanCon.
That's not an irrational fear.
And we're going to get into part of this in the second hour.
We've got capital markets to go through, a bunch of stuff on politics today.
NBC News is all over this report.
That President Trump is putting the Republican Party in his place and getting back to the good old days of 15 and 16.
And this is why his numbers are so strong right now.
We're going to get to all that. Navarro's going to join some capital markets.
But we're also going to spend some time on this.
Not just with the seriousness of the Satan Club.
And Brother Pac-Man, anytime you want to come over or sit down and we can walk you through it, it's not mental illness.
And we're not going to let you divert the attention away from what the problem is.
We are going to shut down these clubs and these schools.
We're not going to let little children in public schools be exposed to these demons.
And that's what they are, the demonic.
And we're not going to allow it.
Okay? So you can call it what you want to call it and try to get our attention away.
But we're on the program.
Okay? We're going to take a short commercial break.
The second hour...
I will guarantee you will be lit.
So stick around. It's a Friday, early Friday evening on a spring day, 5 May in the year of our Lord, 2023.
We're going to take a short break.
Be back in the warm in just a moment.
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Everything's begun.
And you are over.
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