Feb. 13, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| So, I'd more like to do a relationship issue. | ||
| You have the Chinese spy airship that went through. | ||
| You've got China buying more oil from Russia. | ||
| You've got China opening up cases in the U.S. trying to steal U.S. technology from universities. | ||
| President Xi is going to be meeting with the Iranian president. | ||
| At what point do you review, a big review, of the U.S. relationship with China? | ||
| And at what point does the president ask for a call from President Xi? | ||
| Again, I don't have a call to talk about today. | ||
| Let me just, again, level set here, and I know I'm running close on time, but sorry. | ||
| But the president met with President Xi at Bali at the G20. The whole purpose of that discussion was to move this relationship forward in a better way. | ||
| Most consequential bilateral relationship in the world. | ||
| The president knows that. And he wanted to move that relationship forward in a better way. | ||
| And Secretary Blinken was dang near wheels up trying to head to Beijing to have those kinds of conversations to get some of these communication vehicles and venues back on track, whether it's climate change or military to military. | ||
| We were willing to do that. | ||
| We were looking forward to doing that. | ||
| The Chinese decided to fly a surveillance balloon over the continental United States, and it wouldn't be inappropriate to have that meeting. | ||
| When are those discussions going to get back on the calendar? | ||
| I couldn't tell you. As Secretary Blinken has said, it'll happen at the appropriate time. | ||
| Now is not that time. | ||
| It doesn't mean, and people shouldn't take away from this, that all communication has been severed between the United States and China, that Beijing and Washington aren't talking. | ||
| We still have an embassy there. | ||
| We still have an ability through Secretary Blinken's good offices to communicate with senior Chinese leaders. | ||
| Unfortunately, the Chinese military is not interested in talking to Secretary of Defense Austin, but there are still ways to communicate. | ||
| The President would tell you that now's exactly the time to at least preserve some of those lines of communication so that we can avoid miscalculation. | ||
| Has this all, this list of things set back the relationship? | ||
| It has certainly not helped us move forward in the way that we want it to move. | ||
| You started the briefing by talking about the President's involvement in this, the report from ODNI recently that goes over this. | ||
| In that ODNI report about unidentified aerial phenomena, it says there were 247 unidentified aerial phenomena reports since March of 2021, some of which have, quote, demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities. | ||
| So can you say why the president Just recently, within the last couple weeks, started ordering some of these objects to be shot down and why there weren't any orders throughout 2021 or throughout 2022? | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
| It comes down to what sort of safety and security threats and risks we're talking about. | ||
| And also, It comes down to a lot to our ability to track, detect and engage. | ||
| Having come from the Pentagon, I can tell you that some of these UAPs, while we may not be able to know what each and every one is doing, Some of the big concern there was that many of those reports were happening around our training ranges, were happening around air training ranges, so combat pilots were seeing these things, and there was a potential impact to the safety of flight of our pilots. | ||
| But you may not have but a fleeting moment on some of these things to see it. | ||
| It's different. In these cases, we had time to detect, time to analyze, time to engage, time to make those kinds of decisions. | ||
| But it all comes down to safety and security, first and foremost. | ||
| So is that the time, though, is a matter of capability? | ||
| You have better capabilities now? | ||
| We are certainly improving our capabilities now. | ||
| And as I said, the president has directed the national security team to dig into this deeper from an interagency effort and to see if other improvements might need to make. | ||
| I mean, look, just by adapting the way the radar parameters are set, We have improved our ability to detect. | ||
| And again, I said that could be one reason why we're seeing more. | ||
| The American people is the president and the department's number one priority. | ||
| And I want to reassure Americans that these objects do not present a military threat to anyone on the ground. | ||
| They do, however, present a risk to civilization and potentially an intelligence collection threat. | ||
| And we'll get to the bottom of it. | ||
| Right now our priority is debris recovery so that we can get a better sense of what these objects are. | ||
| We're working closely with the rest of the federal government, including the FAA, the FBI, NASA, and others to work through what we might be seeing. | ||
| We, of course, know that a range of entities, including countries, companies, research organizations, operate at these altitudes for purposes that are not nefarious, including legitimate research. | ||
| That said, because we've not been able to definitively assess what these recent objects are, we've acted out of an abundance of caution to protect our security and interest. | ||
| That's why we have teams working hard to track down the debris from over the weekend. | ||
| We have extensive efforts in South Carolina, Alaska, and Lake Huron, and we're supporting our Canadian partners in their efforts there. | ||
| Each of these recoveries are unique. | ||
| And each pose their own challenges. | ||
| Yeah. Yeah. | ||
| Denver, here's what I want to do. | ||
| I want to save the Ukraine piece for the next block. | ||
| It is Monday, 13 February in the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| I just want everybody to understand the gasoline that's going on here. | ||
| You had in that, let me deconstruct it for you. | ||
| But you essentially had, not essentially had, you had a four-star Air Force General, Van Herc, who's NORAD and the combatant commander of NORTHCOM. You have to say publicly he could not rule out that the aircraft or the objects were aliens. | ||
| Okay? Not some science fiction movie. | ||
| This guy's a real four-star general. | ||
| In fact, he's in charge of your safety, because Northern Command is the combatant command for the continental United States and Alaska. | ||
| Then you had Kirby, and Kirby, whether you like him or not, is a pro's pro. | ||
| Okay? This is not Zen master Jean-Pierre. | ||
| This is a pro. He knows how to not answer things when you don't want to. | ||
| He's perfect at non-denial denials. | ||
| He's got the whole shtick down. | ||
| He was up there for an hour, hour and a half, and never answered a question. | ||
| Basically, Didn't answer the most basic question. | ||
| Is Herc going to walk that back? | ||
| Or are you actually saying that these may be aliens? | ||
| Yes or no? Simple. And if that's the truth, then why are we not at a higher DEFCON level? | ||
| Why are you guys in a normal course of business? | ||
| People going to the Super Bowl. | ||
| You're doing an all-female flyover. | ||
| It's all woke. | ||
| You're doing just another day in the neighborhood. | ||
| Okay? Then the last, you've got Austin is in Brussels stirring the pot on the Third World War we got over in Ukraine on the same day that the U.S. government tells all American citizens to leave Russia immediately. | ||
| An escalation. In the chyron for our podcast and radio audience, This is why you're in the podcast already. | ||
| You've got to get our email and get the clips. | ||
| That's MSNBC. He's on a tarmac in Brussels. | ||
| The Chiron, which are the words underneath it, for the entire interview, which he's doing in kind of a rainstorm on a wet tarmac, says the Defense Department shoots down three more, wait for it, unidentified flying objects. | ||
| They don't even use the new terminology. | ||
| Shoots down three more unidentified flying objects. | ||
| Peter Navarro, and I'll get to the Ukraine thing in a second. | ||
| You've been around on the messaging. | ||
| And by the way, the very first one we had, it shows you the lies. | ||
| What did he say? I'm going to play that later in the show and in the next hour. | ||
| Blinken was dang near wheels up. | ||
| He was dang near wheels up. | ||
| Yeah, because on February 3rd, we got the paper right here in the Financial Times. | ||
| Yes, because you hit it from the 28th. | ||
| Where is McCarthy? | ||
| Where's MTG? Where are all these hammers? | ||
| Why are they not flying back to Washington when you've got on a chyron of the NBC network? | ||
| Not War Room, not Breitbart, not Gateway Pundit. | ||
| It's not Revolver. | ||
| You've got MSNBC. And the chyron says, shoots down, Defense Department shoots down three more unidentified flying objects. | ||
| Okay? I would like some precision. | ||
| What are we talking about here, guys? | ||
| I know you want to change the narrative, but Peter, tell me what's going on here, because this is pure madness right now. | ||
| Let me tell you what I think. | ||
| Were the two buried leads in all the crap you heard? | ||
| The first one is something I actually covered extensively in my 2015 Crouching Tiger book. | ||
| What they just told America is the Chinese military refuses to communicate with the Pentagon. | ||
| Okay? And this has been a problem. | ||
| It's a problem in the South China Sea. | ||
| And basically, It's a matter of strategy for the Chinese military. | ||
| They prefer uncertainty than to communication. | ||
| So think about that. We are in a state right now where the Chinese military, apparently they're operating independently from Xi Jinping, just won't talk to us. | ||
| Okay, so they just file that away when the F hits the fan in Taiwan or whatever. | ||
| Now, the really big thing here, Steve, is when Kirby He's going to find a lot about in the debris recovery. | ||
| This is what pisses me off. | ||
| Why are we using F-22s and Sidewinder missiles to shoot down balloons? | ||
| Is there not a more elegant way to capture these flying objects in a way where we don't have to To scavenge for the debris, and we can find out exactly what is going on. | ||
| And, you know, it's the next Hollywood movie. | ||
| I mean, you can imagine it. There's got to be, like, get Elon Musk on the case. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Hold it. It's expensive and crazy. | ||
| If it's real and not BS, they'll show me it's real if they go to Ohio DEFCON. Other than that, CNN's reporting, even as Peter Navarro came on here, breaking news headline, Pentagon memo says object shot down over Canada was a small metallic balloon. | ||
| Now CNN, here's how you're getting gaslit. | ||
| I'm quoting, I'm actually reading from the CNN story. | ||
| The unidentified flying object, they're doing that just to trigger me, aren't they? | ||
| The unidentified flying object shot down in Canadian airspace on Saturday appeared to be a, quote, small metallic balloon with a tethered payload below it. | ||
| They actually go on to say, Peter, it doesn't look anything like the Chinese thing. | ||
| As a historian, the first balloons that flew over America in wartime were in a Japanese war. | ||
| We're flying balloons over trying to start forest fires, okay? | ||
| So this is not something new. | ||
| But why aren't we sending drones up there or our own balloons there to simply Bring these things down to ground or capture them up there. | ||
| Peter, is the mainstream media, are they trying to gaslight everybody by MSNBC putting in the chyron, CNN putting in the opening words, UFOs? | ||
| Are they trying to change the narrative here? | ||
| So we've got 30 seconds before we go to break. | ||
| Your thoughts? I think Biden is trying to destroy the evidence by shooting it down. | ||
| It's like the American people, you're not going to know because we're going to obliterate this stuff. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, of course they're gaslighting us. | ||
| I mean, you couldn't make this up. | ||
| If this were a Hollywood script, Steve, it'd never get shot, right? | ||
| It'd never get shot. But debris recovery, debris recovery, like why are we pulverizing these things? | ||
| The F-22 is the most sophisticated plane in the world. | ||
| It's a Sidewinder missile right on their way around. | ||
| One, two million dollars a pop. | ||
| Great. Let's shoot another one. | ||
| 500,000 to a million bucks. | ||
| Okay. Hang on. | ||
| We got a lot. We got Peter's new podcast. | ||
| We're going to talk about Ukraine. | ||
| Biden is finally achieving Ukraine. | ||
| Lowering inflation, we think, by lowering wages. | ||
| We're not making this up. | ||
| This is the narrative they want to change away. | ||
| I'm also going to ask Peter about the story out of Ohio. | ||
| Nobody knows nothing, and they don't want anybody to know nothing. | ||
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All next in the war room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Okay, I'm not. | ||
| By the way, you're listening, you're watching and listening to the number one disinformation show in the universe, according to Brookings and the New York Times, Peter. | ||
| So I just want to make sure everybody knows we're not making this up. | ||
| I'm quoting from CNN and the CNN is actually quoting. | ||
| Okay, just listen to this. | ||
| This is called a buried lead, folks. | ||
| This is kind of halfway down the article. | ||
| Quote, it should not be assumed That the events of the past few days are connected, the Pentagon noted in its memo. | ||
| Let me repeat that. It should not be assumed that the events of the past few days are connected. | ||
| They're saying it's not connected to the Chinese spy airship. | ||
| Peter, You know, everybody's seen the movies When the Aliens Come. | ||
| You got a four-star general saying you can't rule out the aliens. | ||
| They have an hour-and-a-half press conference today. | ||
| Not only does he not rule it out, he actually says we're going to have an interagency task force to look into the, what do they call them now, the unidentified aerial phenomenon, UAPs. | ||
| Peter, why can't they just stand up and deal with the American people straight? | ||
| And if it was straight, they would be taking the nation right now to a higher DEFCON level. | ||
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Would they not, sir? It's disquieting, Steve. | |
| And we talked about this in the last block. | ||
| Why are they effectively destroying the evidence by taking small balloon objects and blasting them with F-22 and Sidewinder missiles? | ||
| It's... This is just more nonsense from the Biden administration. | ||
| But look, time is precious. | ||
| I do want to make one point which you teased, and I want to get to it. | ||
| Today, the stock market rallied sharply on the reality that people think their incomes are going to grow slower. | ||
| Okay? That's the Biden regime. | ||
| It's like Wall Street gets the benefits Main Street gets screwed. | ||
| And here we are again. | ||
| It's just, this is Biden's America, and we've got to get back to Trump's America. | ||
| Which, by the way, if I may, pimp the new documentary. | ||
| Let me talk just quickly about it, Steve. | ||
| We're going to debut it here on The War Room. | ||
| Starts today, Episode 1. | ||
| It's on the Apple and Google Podcast, Taking Back Trump's America. | ||
| Six episodes explaining Why the Republican red wave never materialized in November within the context of how Biden and the Democrats have turned MAGA into a four-letter word, something we have to rectify before the 2024 cycle, Steve. | ||
| And that's what the documentary is dedicated towards. | ||
| Well, if you call it a four-letter word, he's out there with all the MAGA policies. | ||
| I thought Peter Navarro wrote that part of the speech. | ||
| I can go back and play the three minutes. | ||
| But I want to go back to the... | ||
| Don't bury the lead here. You're talking about Biden now. | ||
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Stealing the Trump funder. | |
| 100%. Joe from Scranton. | ||
| Joe from Scranton. | ||
| I remember I talk about this in my Trump's American book. | ||
| I'm sitting on the beach in Laguna Beach. | ||
| Talking to Stephen Miller as we're going over the last draft of the famous jobs plan speech in Pittsburgh, where we laid out essentially all the basic promises that Trump would keep on the economy. | ||
| And it's like Biden basically cribbed the whole damn thing. | ||
| I mean, who's buying what he's selling? | ||
| One of the points I make in the documentary, Steve, is that The Republican red wave that never happened is that we're not taking Biden seriously enough. | ||
| We look at that guy, and you and I go, God, that guy's a feeble, demented guy. | ||
| But people on that, you know, the persuadable voters are somehow buying some of the crap he's trying to sell, and we've got to reverse that. | ||
| We've got to explain to people what MAGA stands for. | ||
| To me, you and I go back to your chalkboard In your office, in the West Wing, all the things you wanted to do, it's what I call the Iron Triangle of Populist Economic Nationalism. | ||
| It strengthen American manufacturing through things like tariffs and new trade deals. | ||
| It secure our southern borders in an end-to-endless war. | ||
| Everything else that MAGA believes in, right, is secondary to that triangle, because that triangle is the key to peace and prosperity. | ||
| Strong manufacturing, secure borders, and an endless war. | ||
| I'm trying with this podcast and documentary to explain to people what MAGA means so that we, the posses, can go out and explain it to their friends and associates and the other thing so they can't get away We're calling us, you know, whacked-out right-winging extremists, which they're doing. | ||
| I mean, we're just a case of disinformation. | ||
| You and me and Cartag, the guys... | ||
| Who called the fall of the markets in 2022 six months before Jim Cramer and CNBC. By the way, I didn't realize you had such tender feelings. | ||
| This upsets you, doesn't it, when they call you a maggot extremist? | ||
| Well, look, I mean... | ||
| But tell the audience... | ||
| Partly... Steve, you go back and play your show the day after Joe Biden... | ||
| Gave that blood-red speech with that medieval background, calling MAGA a bunch of domestic terrorists. | ||
| And you laughed at it. | ||
| You mocked it. | ||
| And MSNBC mocked it. | ||
| And Tucker Carlson. | ||
| Everybody mocked it. | ||
| But you look at the polling data, and it showed, you know, a week, ten days later, That MAGA, people think that the Republicans who aren't MAGA think we're, you know, we're extremists. | ||
| Okay, but you're going to show this. I don't think your evidence will show that. | ||
| Because I think it's a Republican establishment vote, but I'm open because I love you like a brother, and I know your analytics are always great. | ||
| I'm going to watch your podcast. | ||
| I will deconstruct it. | ||
| I'll show you the area of your ways, but that's okay. | ||
| We love different voices. | ||
| Every day we'll get on. You can be the critic, man. | ||
| You can be... We'll do postgame analysis. | ||
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But hold, don't... | |
| You got chutzpah. | ||
| You got chutzpah. | ||
| You're the best marketing guy. | ||
| This is why the first book was the number one hit. | ||
| You're just all over me. | ||
| Trump says he's a bull. | ||
| He's a bull. He's a bull. | ||
| Hold it. Stop. | ||
| Don't bury the lead. Don't bury the lead. | ||
| Today I want to riff on the billionaires. | ||
| It's kind of gone viral. The Wall Street crowd is breaking out. | ||
| They're all leaving early for drinks. | ||
| Because the market's up sharply at the end of the day. | ||
| Why are they celebrating, Peter? | ||
| What was the information they got that had them piling the stocks more? | ||
| Yes. Expectations on Main Street was they're going to get poorer. | ||
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The whole wage inflation is over. | |
| No more rising wages, folks. | ||
| Away, Wall Street! | ||
| Pull out the friggin' champagne. | ||
| If we don't understand on this day alone... | ||
| That Wall Street does not have anybody's back. | ||
| They're globalists who care about profits. | ||
| Mainstream is getting screwed. | ||
| They're getting screwed by the cruelest tax, which is inflation. | ||
| They're getting screwed by the debt trap that they're putting us in. | ||
| And, you know, if we don't win that debt ceiling battle, hear me, Kevin McCarthy, you hold fast, brother. | ||
| If we don't win that and roll back some of that crazy spending, It's just going to be more of this, but you know, maybe Wall Street will rally on all of that. | ||
| Okay, of your three pillars, you broke on this story, nobody had done the work, you broke it that one million illegal aliens are in the workforce. | ||
| This is the reason that wages are coming down. | ||
| They're proving their case, are they not, that they can break the back of inflation by breaking the back of working class people. | ||
| I was astonished that the government itself printed that. | ||
| They put it out in a jobs report. | ||
| 953,000 new entrants, primarily illegal aliens who are uneducated. | ||
| Who is that going to screw? | ||
| Black, brown, and blue-collar Americans. | ||
| That's the MAGA base right there. | ||
| And Wall Street? | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| They bring it on. | ||
| Federal Reserve Chairman Powell gets on a press conference and says, immigration is going to save us from wage inflation, right? | ||
| He forgot the word in front of there, illegal, okay? | ||
| And meanwhile, look, how many people are getting ready to cross the border into Ukraine from Russia? | ||
| How many soldiers? 500,000? | ||
| Okay, well, there's two million illegal aliens coming over our southern border. | ||
| What kind of damage do you think they're going to do? | ||
| Steve, you know, it's like when I was with Trump and the administration, we do the analytics. | ||
| The illegals come in. | ||
| They're doing what they need to do, right? | ||
| It's like they're doing their stuff. | ||
| But look, they're going to use our hospitals. | ||
| They're going to get on the tax rolls. | ||
| The food stamps. They're going to take people's jobs. | ||
| They're going to depress wages. | ||
| Oh, and by the way, they're going to have fentanyl with them. | ||
| They're going to have all sorts of other kinds of...and crime! | ||
| I mean, there's like...you can draw...it's linear, Steve, percentages. | ||
| But if you get a million newly legal aliens in, you know... | ||
| Within a relative degree of certainty, how many of them are going to rob houses, kill people, rape women, and engage in that? | ||
| It's a small percentage, but it's a small percentage of a large number. | ||
| Okay? People are going to die. | ||
| And so, you know, we're misinformation. | ||
| We're misinformation. | ||
| How... How do we get to your podcast? | ||
| We've got about a minute. How do people get to this tonight? | ||
| It's going to premiere the first. | ||
| Peter Navarro's Taking Back Trump's America podcast. | ||
| It's on Apple Podcasts and Google Podcasts. | ||
| You can also go to my getter and Twitter feed at RealPNavarro. | ||
| I'll be updating that, where the episodes go. | ||
| We're going to drop one per day, episode drop today. | ||
| We've got five more through the Saturday show. | ||
| And, you know, I'm honored to be on with you talking about this. | ||
| But this is an important thing. | ||
| See, I'm telling you, if we don't educate the American people, the independents, the persuadable voters about what MAGA stands for, we're going to get our clocks clean in 2024 to me. | ||
| Okay, good. This is what I try to do. | ||
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I've been quiet for a while, but I've been working. | |
| You're roaring back. Peter Navarro, thank you. | ||
| Honored to have you on here. Look forward to the premiere of the podcast tonight. | ||
| We're going to play it, play it up on our sites, have commentary. | ||
| We'll see you on here tomorrow. Peter, Dr. | ||
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Peter Navarro, President Trump's manufacturing czar. | |
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to talk about the Third World War next. | ||
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Americans in Russia to leave immediately. | |
| Do you have a sense of how many Americans are there? | ||
| Have you received any outreach from Americans that are trying to leave? | ||
| What's the plan for the embassy? | ||
| And why now? | ||
| We've been knowing that this has been a concern for a while. | ||
| Why is this re-upped? | ||
| I'm glad you ended there because that's where I wanted to start. | ||
| This is not new guidance that we are providing to the American people. | ||
| We have been warning the American people for months now that they should not travel to Russia. | ||
| And we've been warning Americans who may have been in Russia that now is not the time to be in Russia. | ||
| And that they should depart immediately. | ||
| What we did do, and we often reissue what is known as our travel advisories for countries around the world, but we reissued our travel advisory for Russia with several updates. | ||
| And that includes information regarding dual national military conscription, martial law in Russian areas bordering Ukraine, Limitations on MSC Moscow staff use of airlines and Russian legislative changes permitting prosecution of those who quote unquote discredit Russia or advocate for the rights of LGBTQI plus persons and consular services in Russian occupied areas of Russia. | ||
| So these are changes that are material to the American citizen community in Russia. | ||
| But again, our message should be that Americans, our message is that Americans should depart Russia. | ||
| They should depart Russia immediately owing to a number of risks that are spelled out in much greater detail in that broader travel advisory. | ||
| How real is the threat of them being drafted or forced to serve in the Russian army? | ||
| Well, again, it's going to be based on the individual, but it is a concern we have to the extent that we thought it prudent to reissue our travel advisory, warning against the possibility of conscription for dual nationals. | ||
| This is not something that we want Americans to consider precisely because we want them to leave Russia. | ||
| We do not want them to leave themselves subject to these or any other measures That could put them in grave danger. | ||
| You know, this is not a typical Monday. | ||
| And particularly when you look at how people are supposed to kind of be so precise and their words are so thoughtful before they do these things. | ||
| I just want to make sure people understand. | ||
| In the White House you had a Rear Admiral John Kirby. | ||
| Who is, I think, a very good spokesperson. | ||
| I don't agree with any of his politics. | ||
| He's slippery, but he knows how to be a comms guy because he can sit there for an hour, hour and a half and not really answer a question, but not so blatantly like Zen master Jean-Pierre. | ||
| He does in a very skillful way. | ||
| He and then Austin, and all they're talking about with General Van Herc, Is that in the Pentagon, just put this memo out. | ||
| Can we get the memo out and Mo and Grace put it up in all the chat rooms and get over to Carly Bonet? | ||
| They're talking about, you know, and they just said in this memo, it should not be associated with previous episodes. | ||
| That means the Chinese. So here we have here we have And they see the Chiron, UFO, unidentified flying object, shot down, Pentagon shoots down three more. | ||
| Unidentified flying objects. | ||
| Then you've got the State Department. | ||
| The day we broke her in the show, as soon as it came across the wire at Reuters and they didn't have all the information, calling for all American citizens to leave Russia immediately. | ||
| And there you gave some background and some gobbledygook and, you know, who knows, a little imprecise, couldn't quite follow all of it. | ||
| But it's to leave Russia immediately. | ||
| Now, how many times are we telling countries to leave the country immediately? | ||
| When you say that, you've got something that... | ||
| He's not up, he fell off. | ||
| There's something that comes up that is like you're on the path to war. | ||
| And they're saying they can conscript guys, they can arrest people, all this. | ||
| My point, they know it's going to get a lot darker. | ||
| Now, you've been told, do we have the Ukraine piece? | ||
| I don't know if we've got it yet, maybe for the next hour. | ||
| We're going to have Rebecca Koffler on here. | ||
| The editor for all foreign affairs for NBC News came on. | ||
| Well, maybe we'll hold that to six. | ||
| He came on and said he basically admitted Well, if we have it, let me know. | ||
| He came on in a minute, just an hour ago, of what we've been saying here for a couple weeks, that Bakhmut is going to fall. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play this, because you haven't heard this from MSNBC or CNN and the New York Times. | ||
| Now, finally, NBC catches up with the war room and gives it to you straight with the bark on. | ||
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| Joining me now from Pak Rosk is NBC News chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel. | ||
| So, Richard, what has been Ukraine's response to this new offensive by Russia? | ||
| They recognize that they need help. | ||
| They are increasing their calls for weapons. | ||
| They are increasing their calls for tanks, for aircraft. | ||
| For the first time in months, the Ukrainians are starting to lose significant amount of territory. | ||
| They recognize it. | ||
| They think that Bahmut, this city that has been a tug of war between Russia and Ukraine for months, could fall, that it could fall imminently. | ||
| In fact, just today, Ukrainian officials called for aid workers who are trying to help the people in Bahamut to leave the city. | ||
| All of a sudden, this is the one, this is like the strategic Hamlet program in Vietnam. | ||
| This is where, and they try to get Zelensky, no, no, no, you want to pivot, we're going to go liberate Crimea, we're going to give you 30 tanks against their 2,000 tanks. | ||
| We're going to give you 30 tanks, and you're going to go, we're going to go this spring, we're going to have a spring holiday, we're going to go to Crimea, we're going to go down to Yalta and Sebastopol, all that, you know, the warm water port, we're going to liberate Crimea, we're going to go do that. | ||
| But, you know, Bakhmut, now you just heard it. | ||
| Let's play it again from the top. | ||
| You've got to hear this from NBC. It's going to fall and imminently going to fall. | ||
| We've been saying they've been shelling this thing nonstop, relentlessly. | ||
| And, of course, the American media and particularly the White House, Austin. | ||
| Why is Austin in Brussels? A couple weeks ago, he's down there. | ||
| We're giving F-16 fighters. | ||
| We're going to do this. We're going to give tanks, all this. | ||
| We're going to have combined arms. | ||
| It's going to be a big sweeping campaign. | ||
| Our whole thing is to drive the Russians out. | ||
| We're going to liberate eastern Ukraine, and then we're going to go liberate Crimea. | ||
| This is what we're going to do. | ||
| This is what they're telling you every day and what you're underwriting. | ||
| Where are the Republicans? | ||
| Where are the neocon Republicans? | ||
| Where are you guys? Where are you? | ||
| Zelensky said it wasn't going to fall. | ||
| We're going to go all in. And I'm not blaming him. | ||
| They're fighting on an 800-mile front. | ||
| They're getting shelled every day like World War I. The people there are only going to be able to take it so long. | ||
| I don't care how many artificial intelligence targeting you do of the Russian senior command down there. | ||
| They're just getting pounded into the Stone Age. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play it from the top. | ||
| Hear it this afternoon for the first time from NBC News. | ||
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The leader today predicts that the war could drag on for years. | |
| Joining me now from Pak Rosk is NBC News chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel. | ||
| So, Richard, what has been Ukraine's response to this new offensive by Russia? | ||
| They recognize that they need help. | ||
| They are increasing their calls for weapons. | ||
| They are increasing their calls for tanks, for aircraft. | ||
| For the first time in months, the Ukrainians are starting to lose significant amount of territory. | ||
| They recognize it. | ||
| They think that Bahmut, this city that has been a tug of war between Russia and Ukraine for months, could fall, that it could fall imminently. | ||
| In fact, just today, Ukrainian officials called for aid workers who are trying to help the people in Bahamut to leave the city, that it is no longer safe enough for them to go there. | ||
| It has become very difficult for journalists to go inside the city. | ||
| The government is not encouraging journalists to go in. | ||
| So the city is facing a very dire situation. | ||
| It might not be able to hold out much longer. | ||
| And that is just one city along the front line. | ||
| The front line stretches for about 800 miles from the north all the way to the south. | ||
| And because the Russians are sending in so many reinforcements, willing to take so many casualties, firing so much artillery, we're talking about tens of thousands of rounds fired by Russians every single week, that front line in a very destructive move is moving slightly forward. | ||
| And it does look like the Russians want to capture the city of Bahamut perhaps before the anniversary of the war at the end of next week. | ||
| Not that the city is so important. | ||
| Not that it's so strategically important. | ||
| It would be more of a symbolic victory for Russia after so many losses over the course of this year. | ||
| Tens of thousands of rounds. | ||
| How do you think that feels? Do you think that's good? | ||
| You think that feels good? An 800-mile front. | ||
| Government told you about that. | ||
| An 800-mile front. | ||
| What is 800 miles to D.C. to Boston and back again? | ||
| 800-mile front. | ||
| Fighting on an 800-mile front. | ||
| Have you heard about that? You're underwriting it. | ||
| The Ukrainians are getting killed right now. | ||
| What is Austin doing in Brussels? | ||
| They were just over there last week. | ||
| Wasn't Milley? | ||
| Wasn't the head of the CIA? William Burns, the head of the CIA, and Milley were just in Kyiv. | ||
| Ten days ago, right? | ||
| Talking about war strategy, talking about pivoting, going to liberate Crimea. | ||
| Are we liberating Crimea yet? | ||
| Are we getting ready for that? Is that what we're doing now? | ||
| No, now they've got to face it when it's all about to collapse around them. | ||
| And they say they can't even be straightforward to. | ||
| All American people want is honesty. | ||
| This is why Gates put it up. | ||
| There's only ten people co-signed it. | ||
| Republican neocons. You want the road to perdition? | ||
| You want the road to a permanent defeat? | ||
| Peter, it's not MAGA as a four-letter word, but you're Navarro. | ||
| You're going to do it. I want to see it. | ||
| I want to go through the analytics. I trust you. | ||
| I love you. You go do it. | ||
| You want to do this? You continue to back this regime with the open-ended checkbook that we've got without telling people anything about the truth. | ||
| Because now after all this, we're going to hold, we're going to take eastern Ukraine back, we're going to take Russian-speaking eastern Ukraine back. | ||
| Now she starts to break us. | ||
| The war could last years. | ||
| The war could last years. | ||
| We've tossed in $120 billion in year one. | ||
| The war could last years. | ||
| Tens of thousands of shells. | ||
| Bakhmut's going to fall. | ||
| There's nothing to fall. We had to destroy the village in order to win it. | ||
| Right? We had to destroy the village in order to win it. | ||
| Boris, they've ordered your family and you were born in Russia. | ||
| They've ordered all Americans out immediately, Boris. | ||
| How big a deal is that, sir? | ||
| Has that happened very often in Russia, sir? | ||
| No. And Steve, I want to be with you. | ||
| I want to be with a posse. And you have full background, so nobody thinks that this is based on any of my family history. | ||
| I was born in In Moscow, my grandmother was born right outside of Kiev in Ukraine. | ||
| We've got family, as most people in that region do, we've got family completely across borders. | ||
| And that's part of the reason that this whole disaster has been so heartbreaking and such a mess. | ||
| And I've spoken about that for the last year, since the first day I went proudly on this program. | ||
| I said that this was a mistake by Putin to go into Ukraine because it's effectively a civil war, which is what it is. | ||
| So it's a huge deal now that the State Department has issued that warning for all Americans to leave Russia. | ||
| It shows that the situation is absolutely deteriorating. | ||
| And the fact is that there's no leadership. | ||
| America has absolutely failed, has fully failed. | ||
| In this festering fire surrounded by nuclear reactors in Ukraine, and continues to be sending a billion dollars here and a billion dollars there. | ||
| We just continue to send money, continue to send ammunition, continue to send weapons, and let's be honest, continue to send actual military quote-unquote instructors, which is how these quagmires have started throughout history and have gotten worse and worse and worse. | ||
| And again, for those who don't know, look up the genesis of World War I and World War II and you will see that they're in a tiny radius from this location. | ||
| This is not a place where A war, a conflict can be allowed to continue. | ||
| As President Trump has said, this has to end in 24 hours. | ||
| But unfortunately for the world right now, only President Trump can do it. | ||
| And Joe Biden is too short-sighted to ask him to do so. | ||
| Okay, a short commercial break. | ||
| Boris, please stick. I want you to the other side. | ||
| Krom Carmichael is going to join us. | ||
| We've got a lot to go through in hour one, even more to go through in hour two. | ||
| Stick around. Be back in a moment. | ||
| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
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| Any Republican thinking of getting into this race, what do you think their strategy should be for taking on Trump? | ||
| Well, it's got to be taking on Trump. | ||
| Look, you're not going to wage this battle successfully unless you're prepared to take down the obstacle that's in your way. | ||
| And you've got to figure out how you do that and at least hold some of that base together for a general election and even to support you in the primary. | ||
| It is tactically difficult. | ||
| Strategically complicated, but at the end of the day, you've got to be prepared, as I put it, to sacrifice your bid for the presidency in the effort to get there. | ||
| You've got to be willing to say, okay, I'm ready to go in this and potentially lose this battle, but this is important because you may be able to create a lane or a pathway for someone else. | ||
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Who could then finish the job? | |
| Maybe all those candidates can come together, unlike they did in 2016, to sort of block and tackle Trump. | ||
| But someone has got to lead that charge. | ||
| Is that Nikki, since she's literally the first out of the gate beyond Trump? | ||
| Or is it someone else? | ||
| We'll see. Well, let me ask you that question. | ||
| If it's about being ready, able to walk that very fine line, but also aggressively counterattack, don't let him just come at you, who's got the juice to do that? | ||
| None of them. Really? | ||
| None of them. I mean, hello, where have you been for the last six years? | ||
| None of them. Who stood up and said, you need to shut up and sit down because we got this? | ||
| Who? So is that walking the line, I guess? | ||
| I mean, is that what risks alienating the base, as you say? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, that's part of the problem. | ||
| You can't be held hostage to that small, loud chorus in the corner. | ||
| You're talking about 32 percent, 38 on a good day? | ||
| That's 62 percent of the party that's left to play with. | ||
| Engage them. Get them into the process. | ||
| You go back and you look at the numbers. | ||
| There are a lot of Republicans who do not vote in primaries. | ||
| They just don't. So you've got some ready tools available to you to begin to cobble together a majority of the vote that you're going to need. | ||
| But here's the other thing, Chris, that's important. | ||
| You can't do this with six other people in the race. | ||
| This has to be a race, in my view, that's mano a mano or Nikki against Trump. | ||
| It's got to be one-on-one. | ||
| It cannot have this bifurcated, trifurcated approach with all of these faces on the screen running for the prize because the guy there on the left declared, he's sitting there going, okay, I can play with you. | ||
| Thank you. Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. Boris, What's the over and under that Michael Steele gets invited back on the Chris Janssen show? | ||
| Hey, where have you been for six years? | ||
| It's kind of rough. | ||
| You don't treat the host like that. | ||
| Be nice. Be kind. | ||
| Treat the guest with kindness and gratitude. | ||
| Boris, but Michael Steele said the quiet part out loud. | ||
| She says, which one of these six he goes, none of them. | ||
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| Hey, I don't agree. | ||
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You see her face. I haven't agreed with Michael Steele in a long time. | |
| He's actually a nice enough guy. | ||
| He was a hapless R&T champ, but he's a nice enough guy. | ||
| But I haven't agreed with him in a long time, but I'll agree with him here. | ||
| None of the pretenders who think that they may want to oppose the president while singing the president's praises Have a shot. | ||
| You know why? Because the American people want President Donald J. Trump back in the Oval Office as soon as humanly possible. | ||
| You know why? Because of the disaster in Ukraine. | ||
| Because of the disaster in our border. | ||
| Because of the disaster in East Palestine, Ohio. | ||
| Because of who knows what is happening with these unidentified flying objects around our sky. | ||
| Because of the absolutely crushing economic stature of our American economy. | ||
| The American people want the broadest shoulders possible, and the toughest shoulders possible. | ||
| And that is undoubtedly President Donald J. Trump. | ||
| And that's why, you know, even the New York Times had this article about the Santa saying, well, he's doing this haywire act, and he's trying to go, you know, without alienating anybody, or maybe thinking about running, but maybe he does it in September, or maybe he does it in October, maybe he does it in 2028. | ||
| Who knows? The bottom line is this. | ||
| None of these pretenders have shown to have the toughness or the experience or the ability to face off in any contest against President Donald J. Trump. | ||
| And let me remind everybody, before President Trump beat the Democrat establishment in 2016 in Crook and Hillary Clinton, she defeated the Republican establishment. | ||
| And it didn't go so well for those who entered the quicksand. | ||
| I would just say beware. | ||
| And hey, if the pretenders want to come in and want to play, sure, come on in and let's have a good time. | ||
| But they should know that what they're doing is they are going against them, which is not of 38%, but of 95 % of the Republican electorate. | ||
| It's not the small group in the corners. | ||
| Michael's still trying to cover up for being mean to the host. | ||
| He's obfuscating. | ||
| MAGA is now the Republican Party. | ||
| And to go against that is to be Liz Cheney. | ||
| And we all know how Liz Cheney's career ended by a 40-point whopping loss at the hands of the Donald Trump-adduced candidate, Harriet Hageman. | ||
| Is there any doubt in your mind that we're at the beginning stages of the Third World War? | ||
| You can see it on every front throughout the world, sir? | ||
| I'm deeply concerned that that's exactly where we are. | ||
| I hope that there's still a way to avoid it. | ||
| But if you look around the world, and if you look around Look specifically at Eastern Europe. | ||
| But beyond that, look at China and Taiwan. | ||
| Look at the Middle East. Look at what's going on and still going on in Syria. | ||
| And look at the takeover of Africa by China. | ||
| We have a geopolitical situation right now that's as troubling as it's been in the last 80 years. | ||
| And the only way to avoid it is strong American leadership. | ||
| And we cannot have it with hopeless Joe Biden. | ||
| We could only have it with President Donald J. Trump. | ||
| It's the best case for Trumpers right there. | ||
| Boris, what are your coordinates? | ||
| How do people get to you? Steve, thanks so much. | ||
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God bless all offense, and I'll talk to you tomorrow. | |
| Okay, all offense. | ||
| We're going on all offense next. | ||
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| We're going to return for the second hour of our late afternoon, early evening show here in the Warwick. |
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