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Episode 2514: What Was At Risk Of Declassification From The Balloon
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Okay, it's Monday, 13 February, in the year of our Lord, 2023.
It is going to be an intense week, okay?
Your Super Bowl's over.
Put it away. We got work to do.
Number one, you've had a head of NORAD, a four-star general who's also in Northern Command, come out yesterday and actually say we can't rule out aliens when we look at these objects that we're shooting down.
Can't rule it out. And you've got the pilots giving conflicting testimony.
The American people are not being dealt with straight.
We're not getting real-time information.
And I can tell you they are trying to change a narrative.
It's quite obvious what they're doing.
They're trying to pivot. And the reason is everything they touch turns to crap.
Okay? So they have to be able to pivot.
You know, in the State of the Union speech, he has to literally go and cut and paste.
Cut and paste.
The parts that come right from President Trump's economic nationalism.
Absolutely cut and pasted to drop in and get all these applause and have guys like Josh Marshall talking points.
Yeah, that's really, Scranton Joe really represents the working class.
Because they understand what you need to do in this nation today to win.
Okay? Politics is turning populist.
Why? Because the American people are awakening to a fact, to the fact, that on their shoulders everything rests, okay?
Yet they pay for it.
They pay for it through taxes.
They pay for their pension funds are all used to support all this, right?
While the jobs ship away, while the kids don't have great jobs and great opportunities.
While the entire culture is woke, driven by the woke corporations of Larry Fink and BlackRock, with all the ESG and Disney, all of it.
You see the Super Bowl yesterday, a disgrace.
It's not worthy of my time to go into it.
But that shows you what corporate America is going to do.
And it's not the players. I said this on Frederick Shirley.
It's not the players. It's not even the NFL. The NFL is just a bunch of bureaucrats.
It's the owners. It's the owners.
This is the problem we got.
We have these unaccountable billionaires, right, who are totally woke because they all want to be accepted in the Hamptons.
They want to be accepted in Hollywood.
They want to go to the, you know, on Scottsdale.
They want to all go wine and dine and hang out together and not be called out for standing up for something.
So they're just going to go with the flow.
Remember, money has no courage.
It doesn't. Money has no courage.
Zero. I've seen it up close and personal for years.
These wealthy guys will just do what they got to do to continue to be wealthy, to get more powerful, and to just go with the flow.
They're never going to stand up, right?
If Trump's hot, they'll back Trump.
As soon as Trump's not hot, boom, gone, right?
And right now, they are absolutely 1,000 % anti-Trump.
Just understand that, anti-Trump.
From the Kochs all the way across the board, to Singer, to Ken Griffin, the whole deal, the whole deal.
So this is why people go, well, Ben, you can't talk about tax increases until you get this thing to a surplus, until you get the Federal Reserve to stop printing money and destroying you and your financial well-being and your family and your children and your grandchildren.
You think I have any problem whatsoever taxing the oligarchs?
No, I do not. If they're going to be the ones in back of the supporting all this woke madness and benefiting from all this fiscal domination and deficit spending and benefiting from the Federal Reserve, no, I don't have.
And you're taking the brunt of it?
You think I have?
You think I'm going to go Grover Norquest?
No, I am certainly not.
And I'm not talking about rich people.
And I'm not talking about wealthy people.
I'm not talking about the upper middle class.
No, I'm talking about the oligarchs.
And there's plenty of there.
There's plenty there right now. The revolutionary generation, the founders of this nation would come back and spit on the floor to see what we've allowed to happen to this country as far as concentration of power, which is what they fought a revolution against, the concentration of that type of power, mercantilist power with a worthless landed aristocracy, right?
Because now we have an aristocracy of the wealth handed down generation to generation.
Okay. This situation on the Third World War, we have to start facing it like adults, and you're being lied to and mis- and this is the problem I got right now with the House.
They have got to start to demand that people go on the record.
We need people on the record for exactly what they're talking about, and we need very precise information.
Seth Keschel, your professional career, you were an Army Intelligence Officer, were you not, sir?
seth keshel
I was Army Captain S-2 of a Cav Squadron, Assistant S-2 of a Striker Brigade.
steve bannon
And weren't you stationed one time in Alaska?
seth keshel
I was, Fort Wainwright, Alaska.
1st Brigade, 25th Infantry Division.
steve bannon
Seth, when things like coming into the airspace of the United States and what NORAD does and what Northern Command as the combatant commander for Alaska and for the lower 48, people talk in very precise ways.
When commands are coming down, things are being monitored, things are being tracked, both intel, whether that intel is with the Air Force, whether it's with the Navy, whether it's with the Army, and when you've got places like Montana and the Air Force, they may call part of this the Space Force now, but it's all the same thing. You guys deal in understanding it's the fog of war, you can't understand anything, but the language is pretty precise, is it not, sir?
seth keshel
It is, yes. Every threat taken seriously.
Alaska in particular is key for the Pacific Command.
When I was there, this was 10 years ago, all eyes were on that theater.
China, of course, was very aggressive taking over in the South China Sea.
They've got the ability to build makeshift islands at sea to house their growing navy.
And of course, if you want to talk about Alaska specifically, China's all after the Arctic, along with Russia, and they're way ahead of us in the ability to control the resources and the expansion of Arctic operations as well.
So everything having to do with Alaska or pertaining to missile defense is a serious threat and taken very seriously, just like you said.
steve bannon
When you have this concept, tell me what this concept, domain awareness gap.
We spend $848 billion in the defense budget.
You throw in another $80 billion for all the intel.
So I'm up over $900.
And by the way, I throw Department of Energy in for the nuclear reactors.
If I kick a few more things in from other departments that are actually supporting national security, DHS, all that, I'm over a trillion bucks, okay?
It's a trillion a year, one T. It's one T large, okay?
How can we possibly have a domain awareness gap on something like these airships, which are not just for intelligence gathering.
Hey, you know, Comer said it and they mocked him.
Hey, you can put a bioweapon in there.
You could spread chemo. You could do anything you want on these things.
How can you have a domain awareness gap, sir?
seth keshel
We've fallen behind in our ability to have an advantage in intelligence.
And, of course, taking a lot of our enemies or rival nations for granted across the world where we waged war in Iraq or Afghanistan for decades has really ground down the readiness of our military.
And that would not just be the Army and the Marines, but, of course, our intelligence apparatus, including the Air Force.
And the graphic I sent over to you guys shows the NORAD command has a pretty Pretty definitive grip on the fact that the balloon that was sent over was programmed on a predestined route.
And you can see there it comes across over Japan and across the Aleutian Islands into Alaska.
And you can see that it goes just north of Fort Wainwright and Fort Greeley, Fort Greeley being very important.
Fort Greeley is pretty much the gateway for ICBM defense, anti-missile defense.
It's a shield for the entire continent.
Fort Greeley, of course, it doubles as the cold weather training center for the Army, but it is a big deal that potentially this balloon was equipped with special antenna to collect SIGINT on those installations.
Fort Wainwright and Fort Richardson, now called JBEAR, down in Anchorage, are key for the Pacific Command and Rapid Response.
And then going across Canada and sweeping over the Great Plains of the Pacific Northwest is a very interesting thing because Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana Warren Air Force Base in Wyoming and Minot in North Dakota are the three Air Force installations that house the Minuteman III ICBM. And then sweeping through there into Offutt Air Force Base Nebraska right over it, which is key for electronic warfare and reconnaissance operations, and then to Whiteman Air Force Base.
And through the east, Fort Campbell, Kentucky, Fort Bragg, North Carolina, those are two, if not the two most important army bases there are that house the 101st Airborne and the 82nd Airborne, which are rapidly deployable, 96-hour combat divisions.
So this reconnaissance mission is absolutely something that is deliberate, and it was designed to exploit our weaknesses and vulnerabilities and collect key information and intelligence on our readiness.
And that is a very frightening thing with The current situation in the White House.
steve bannon
Captain Cashel, that is not following the jet stream.
That is not a way a balloon or an airship would naturally blow with the easterly wind, the prevailing winds, right?
That was programmed and they had the ability because over Montana, I think it was for a day or two, the reason Billings guy got it, it was in rotation over the ICBM fields there.
But I just want to make sure you correct.
That was somehow steered.
The winds just didn't take it around that route you just said, correct?
seth keshel
Correct, and the Chinese also were very adamant that this was a meteorological expedition that got off course.
Of course, we're talking about a nation that, as I said, can build makeshift islands at sea in the South Pacific and then exploit for resources tiny African and Caribbean nations projecting all that economic force across the world, but you're trying to tell me that they can't steer a meteorological mission in the right direction.
And it just happened to sweep across major missile defense Installations, nuclear installations, and reconnaissance installations with rapidly deployable units in them.
That seems like a little bit of a coincidence to me.
steve bannon
Captain Cashel, the Chinese would assume, let's go back to the Aleutian Islands, that given our air defense in NORAD and how even with an awareness gap, they've actually admitted, they picked it up when it came across the Aleutians No later than the 28th of January.
The Chinese knew that we hid this and didn't say anything about it until at least the second, I think the evening of the first or the morning of the second of February.
What would be their perception of that, that nobody had until a journalist in Billings, Montana?
Came out and took a photo because a buddy told him there's a UFO floating around the airbase.
What would be their perception of that, do you think, sir, in the Sun Tzu's art of war?
seth keshel
Well, I consider there to be two types of authority.
Now, this would stem also to military command, but you have the legal authority guaranteed to somebody by rank or position, like the President of the United States, and then you have Moral authority, which is earned, and that is something where people respect you, they follow you, they follow your leadership.
So you have three, four days that elapsed between this balloon being picked up over the Aleutians and then it coming into the news cycle.
They have to see that as the White House and the DOD scrambling for an explanation to give to the people.
And the first explanation they came out with was not to assess the threat or to detail the threat or to talk about solutions for that, but to find a way to bring Donald Trump into the situation.
So they said, but Trump, here was the spy balloon threat under Trump.
So trying to dismiss this rather than admitting that we are critically weak on what we actually need for actual defense of this nation as we've been exporting our military force to parts of the world that are, frankly, unconquerable.
And they have been for all of time.
steve bannon
Seth, if you were up in Alaska, by the way, we're going to go to a break and I want to hold you.
We've got about a minute. If you were up in Alaska when you were active duty and you cut CNN on and you saw NORAD giving a press conference where he said, we can't rule out alien craft, right?
Would you and your buddies assume when you heard that, that somehow through the chain of command, you might go to a higher DEFCON Would that be a logical conclusion if somebody actually thought this was an alien?
They couldn't rule out that it was an alien craft for the first time in, wait for it, world history, sir?
seth keshel
Well, if you had supporting information, data, and therefore intelligence that could suggest it, well, then it would be natural to elevate yourself to a higher position of readiness, just like we should have been in position to elevate to a higher position of readiness, knowing that an emerging world power is going to be seeking to exploit our intelligence vulnerabilities.
So yes, if there were supporting information and intelligence to justify that, then that's a natural step.
steve bannon
Seth, why don't you hang on for a second?
We're going to take a short commercial break.
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Short break. Back with Captain Seth Keschel in the war room.
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Captain Castro, you're with a cavalry unit up in Alaska.
You've served also throughout the rest of the world.
Walk me through, given all the happy talk we heard from the administration, now we have their Put out an alert this morning that all U.S. citizens must leave immediately, must leave Russia.
Okay? That's an escalation.
In the intelligence world, would that be considered an escalation?
seth keshel
Absolutely, and also you have some things that are showing you what the true picture on the ground is.
Recently, the Ukrainian government put out a warning for no-aid workers to enter Bakhmut, despite the Ukrainian government's claims that they're holding ground.
And of course, that's their symbolic stronghold against the Russian invasion.
Now, as we mentioned during the break, the Russians, of course, are bombarding that place.
And the reason given is aid workers shouldn't enter because of street fighting.
So they're not even able to secure basic areas of Bakhmut in which they were thought to be held and peaceful at this point.
I think that's a sign that Bakhmut is getting ready to fall and a lot of the propaganda you see in the media drumming up support for every nation to oppose Russia is exactly that.
It's more propaganda just like we discussed with the Chinese spy balloon before the break.
steve bannon
You saw where we put forward 31, we gave them 31 M1A1 Abrams tanks, the battle tanks, to quote-unquote lead a springtime offensive to then pivot and liberate Crimea.
That was the talk two weeks ago.
Given your experience, how tough do you think it is for the civilians in Bagmut in those strategic hamlets?
Because right now, two of the small villages outside Bagmut are just under complete barrage by the Russian artillery.
You know how good the Russians are in artillery, and they will drop some gross tonnage on you and not think twice about it.
How tough do you think it is for the civilians in that general area right now, Captain Cashel?
seth keshel
I think it's extremely difficult because the infrastructure in the area is being completely obliterated.
You can find it really in some of the back channels of the internet.
You can find some channels in Telegram that have a lot of drone footage of the area.
It's completely in ruins. And it's not so much that they're going to have access to more firepower with tanks or any sort of weaponry we send, but as every single military operation that has failed in human history going back well earlier than Napoleon, if you cannot sustain your force, if you cannot have the beans and bullets If you cannot give them proper equipment and you can't support the armor with infantry, then you're going to fail in the operation.
So really I consider that to be really a bunch of gold plating that's not going to amount to much, us lending them so much firepower because they can't support that.
steve bannon
In a combined arms operation, which is what the tanks give you, because it's not just a weapons platform, it's a whole different type of warfare.
Is it feasible, sir, given the complexity of the M1A1 Abrams tank, that you can't have logisticians, American logisticians, maintenance, training, all of that around those tanks when they show up, whether they're in defense of these villages and towns in eastern Ukraine or whether they really try to do a combined arms operation to liberate Crimea?
Is there any way, do you think, In the short term, and by short term, I would say between now and the end of the year, that could be sustained by anything but American military personnel?
seth keshel
That's what it would take to sustain the operation.
The stakes of bringing Americans into that conflict, look at every war in Europe for the last 150 years.
When one nation gets involved, it triggers all the alliances and it brings the whole world into what we've been discussing on the show is World War III scenario.
So I don't believe that that is what is going to happen.
I think there's a lot of posturing about the issue.
But no, it would not be possible to push back and regain that lost ground, I think, without direct military involvement, which is why I am hopeful that that is not going to happen on our end.
steve bannon
Seth, you've warned us because you spent the last couple of years of your life turning your analytics ability to the election.
Elections have consequences.
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
Is this all the outcome of the catastrophic consequence?
Is this the catastrophic consequence?
A world at war right now.
Okay? Kinetic war right now.
And when Steve Cortez talks about the Cuban Missile Crisis, this is much more dangerous than the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Back in those days, I mean, you didn't really talk out loud about using tactical nuclear weapons on the battlefield.
They're throwing this back and forth all the time now when they talk about Ukraine.
They're normalizing. They're making part of the conversation.
We also didn't have a massive conflict going on like we'd have in Ukraine, which looks like right now World War I. This is much more dangerous than the Cuban Missile Crisis we're in.
We're in it now.
And the only question is, can we get out of this without going kinetic?
That's the only question before us.
And the Biden regime is pushing this every day, pushing us down there.
Is this catastrophic consequence the outcome of a stolen election in 2020, sir?
seth keshel
Steve, the elections in this country, you can go all the way back to Boss Tweet.
As long as we've had elections, there's been cheating.
With the technology and the databases that are out there now, that's been exported to smaller counties and cities than were previously possible.
And looking back at even 2018, the massive manipulation of elections appears to have begun in 2018 during Trump's midterm, which looks like it should have been a red wave despite a Republican presidency.
And yes, Donald Trump being removed from office in what amounts to a coup is certainly a key contributor to the state of the world today.
Trump, of course, had to use military force in some cases.
Remember, he blew away Kassim Soleimani at the beginning of 2020.
But he was the first president in many, many years who did not initiate any new major theater conflicts or new wars.
And stolen elections have consequences like this, and that is why I call it electile dysfunction, because it is truly a dysfunctional issue that brings about the worst in this country that it has to offer.
And I would say that In a world free of election fraud, you would have probably 63 Republican Senate seats minimum and a supermajority in the House and a Republican president.
And of course, we find ourselves at the precipice of massive darkness if we do not turn the tide on the election fraud with major reforms like the 10 points.
steve bannon
Captain Kessler, how do people get to you?
What's your social media coordinates?
seth keshel
I am at Real S. Keshul on Getter and Truth Social.
And on Substack, I am at skesul.substack.com.
steve bannon
Thank you. Great information.
Thank you. Can I play the cold open for Joe Allen?
Do I have time? Let's play it.
alex karp
You know, when we were talking about the reality that nuclear weapons are on the table three and two months ago, of course, that was derided.
The general belief I had just comes from building a software business and seeing software in action in war, where software plus heroism can really slay the giant.
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We have a product that is not well known called MetaConstellation, and that product allows you to use algorithms on large data sets To hone in on adversaries over, say, for example, a whole country.
And the integration of data from—the infusion of data from satellite, telephones, other sources, classified sources, and then the disambiguation of that so people only see what they are allowed to see on the battlefield.
The Ukrainians, without going into all details, but some of us only, they, of course, went to the most important— Services in the world and said, okay, what should we use?
And I'm very proud to hear they had one answer, Palantir.
And then we were asked if we were willing to supply our product philanthropically, basically, for free.
And I was very in favor of this because our primary mission is, in fact, to set a global standard for the world for behavior.
The product then allowed them, according to this article, to do targeting with, like, a factor of 20 better.
Concern over China's reach is being played out now in the waters around Taiwan.
The future of AI plays a part in that equation.
Today the key and smartest chips in the world are built primarily in a company called TSMC in Taiwan.
It looks to us like America is a few generations behind them, and it looks to us like China is a few generations behind America.
China has also been trying to catch up, and they've spent billions and billions of dollars, and they haven't been able to do it.
As tensions rise in the region and US and Chinese militaries explore possible scenarios, the use of AI could give one side the edge.
In general, part of the problem with AI and war is that everything's going to happen faster.
I'll give you an example. Let's imagine you're on a ship, and you're a commander, and you're intelligent, and you're ready, and the computer says, there's a weapon coming at you.
You can't see it.
I recommend you press this button, and if you don't press this button, you will be dead.
The odds of that human pressing that button are very, very high.
This compression of time is a key problem we're going to face in our defense strategy.
steve bannon
The compression of time.
All next with Joe Allen our head of all things transhumanism next in the war Here's your host Stephen K band you Okay, Kevin McCarthy just announced, just went up that they're going to the border on Thursday.
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Joe Allen, what did we just see right there, sir?
joe allen
Well, Steve, that was Alex Karp, CEO of Palantir, and also former CEO of Google, Eric Schmidt.
On the one hand, you have Alex Karp and his company.
Of course, it's really important to remember Palantir was co-founded by Peter Thiel, and we've covered his views on AI and warfare quite a bit.
But Palantir, it's really in the last few months been coming out.
uses their software.
They donated their software to Ukraine, and it has been integrated across their military.
Of course, these sorts of things are always up for debate, but it seems pretty indisputable that the use of their software for battlefield surveillance Target acquisition and other purposes has really been a big part of why it is such a small country would be able to fend off such a large force like Russia.
There are other elements as well, of course, the weapons being sent by the West.
You have the use of Elon Musk's Starlink internet services for comms.
But I think, you know, recently Palantir was featured and their role in Ukraine was featured in the Washington Post.
And Alex Karp told them this, and I think it's very important.
The power of advanced algorithmic warfare systems is now so great that it equates to having tactical nuclear weapons against an adversary with only conventional ones.
The general public tends to underestimate this.
Our adversaries no longer do.
It's important to remember, too, that, of course, as CEO of a company, he's trying to project power.
He's trying to, you know, hype his company.
But I think when the rubber hits the road, In target acquisition, in battlefield surveillance, in analyzing vast amounts of data on an adversary, AI has proved to be extremely useful.
As we've emphasized a lot, the power of AI is taking huge amounts of data and finding meaningful patterns in it.
And it does so better than traditional rules-based software.
Then you take the US-China kind of AI arms race that Eric Schmidt is talking about, and the kind of war over, the kind of cold war over the advanced chips being produced by Taiwan, and you have this multi-front AI arms race that could get really, really ugly, especially as AI is becoming more and more involved in decision-making.
steve bannon
We warned the audience about this.
The worst number and some bad numbers coming out.
The worst number I've seen is the absolute – the Chinese reaction, the consumer reaction and the company reaction to chat GPT, which is – You know, pretty rudimentary compared to what we're talking about, and they're just overwhelming. I'm telling you, the push for enhanced humanity is going to be overwhelming.
Just remember in the audience, we're going to come up with how we can stop that.
But the response to it in China has been overwhelming.
I want to go back to a couple of news items that are quite important for the Third World War.
And that would mean you in Iowa and you in Kansas and Chicago and New York and L.A. Everywhere throughout the country, you're right now a combatant.
Understand you're a combatant.
The one thing you take away from this show is I am now a combatant in the Third World War.
Okay? They're not flying that balloon, that airship over the United States, checking these bases and letting you know they could drop anything on you they want anytime they want.
Okay? They have no earthy idea.
Comer mentioned it the other day. You could have a biological weapon in there.
You could. I'm not saying they did, but you could.
You could definitely have it.
And look, it just it traipsed all over the United States.
And we had any response in this whatsoever.
I'm gonna get to the alien thing in a second.
But right now, the New York Times reported that the American military intelligence has been helping the Ukrainians target.
Target the Russian Army and particularly target field grade officers.
Target them with advanced electronics.
That's us outside of the Ukraine battle space, but helping them target using AI. And Elon Musk, was it Saturday or Sunday, he just said, hey, on Starlink, I had that set up to give it to you guys for your telecommunications, but I never wanted to get into targeting.
Right now, I believe that that is because he's underwritten by the CCP and the CCP is telling him, hey, bro, you're not going to help the Americans target the Russians because they're our partners.
They're our allies.
So this thing is getting gnarlier and gnarlier.
Every second of every day, and understand you, this audience, are not only chairman of the creditors committee for this nation, for the full faith and credit, you are also now a combatant in the Third World War.
Talk to me, because you do all the transhumanism stuff, we also make sure we stay on the alien stuff, all the information on that.
Did you find this weekend a little bizarre when a four-star general, Joe Allen, did you ever think you would hear in your lifetime Even though you're aficionado of science fiction, a real life, not a movie, not Independence Day, but a real life four-star general who is the combatant commander to protect the United States militarily,
right? Militarily in Northern Command would step forward and said, I can't rule out that what was shot down over Lake Hurant and these other things are not alien devices.
Joe Allen, your thoughts?
joe allen
You know, these sorts of things, as far as the disclosure in summer of 2020, I don't have any hard opinions on even the existence of aliens and UFOs, but I do think that that narrative, that cultivation of the narrative is really Really important.
If it is just simply a PSYOP to distract from the real issue of China or Russia sending surveillance balloons over the U.S. or other propelled surveillance craft over the U.S., then it really fits into a model of being able to cultivate a mythology that is detached from reality to keep your heart rate going,
right? On the offhand chance, when we were covering this two years ago, there's no way for me to know if UFOs exist unless one comes and gets me.
I don't know, but I do think that the integration of that into the narrative Is really, really important.
The importance of it, I don't know.
I suspect that it does ultimately is a distraction from actual adversaries like China and Russia, but I don't have any way to evaluate it.
steve bannon
It's also a distraction from the adversary of the administrative state.
Let me be blunt. Right now, the weapon, right now, correct me if I'm wrong, but right now in the weapons labs of this country, Lawrence Livermore, Sandia, all the weapons labs, in the weapons labs of this country and in the research labs at the university, just where University of North Carolina was cooking up The CCP doing gain-of-function experiments on your nickel under Fauci supervision at the esteemed universities in this nation, Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
They were cooking up gain-of-function, basically weaponizing biology.
What do they call it?
Directed evolution.
How do you like that one? Directed evolution.
Doing some directed evolution.
Right now in the weapons labs, they're building the antichrist.
That would be not just the post-homo sapien, but artificial general intelligence.
They're working on it right now.
Now, they wouldn't call it that, but they want to get away from the whole narrative of what we're cooking up ourselves and other people, too, because it's an arms race now.
Joe Allen, your thoughts and observations on that, sir?
joe allen
Well, To focus on AI, AI has become remarkable in its ability to recognize the patterns necessary for gene editing, for things like directed evolution or gain of function or the production of various bioweapons.
It allows scientists to do their experiments in silico and test millions of different possibilities theoretically before ever going into the lab, meaning that they can arrive at these bioweapons much, much faster.
And then the article that I put out last Saturday detailing the role of artificial intelligence in warfare, one thing I'm really focusing on are these projects towards artificial general intelligence, where instead of having the AIs that exist today that do one single task really, really well, You fuse those together into a single, flexible sort of brain, an artificial brain.
So you've got DARPA, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency in the US. 2018, they announced they're going to be pouring money into thinking machines that are able to reason and have common sense.
That would be moving towards artificial general intelligence.
You have DeepMind, owned by Google.
They are working towards Artificial General Intelligence.
You have OpenAI, now a tight partner with Microsoft, working towards Artificial General Intelligence.
And then over in China, you have Baidu and you have Tencent also working towards these, but because of their tight association or their control by the CCP, you can be sure that the Artificial General Intelligence projects will be employed towards military purposes.
There's a great paper in PRISM, which is a national defense journal.
It's entitled New Generation AI Brain Project.
I go into this in the article.
And they track all of the different top-level computer scientists and AI researchers who describe how and why China is also racing towards artificial general intelligence.
Now, the title of the article, Countdown to Gigadeath, From AI arms race to artilect war is looking at one of the darkest imaginations of what the future could be by a prominent transhumanist,
Hugo de Garis, and his prediction that the AI arms race we see right now for things like control of large language models by OpenAI, DeepMind, and so on and so forth, that that moves up to a military And with the creation of an artificial general intelligence,
you now have a system that could very easily slip out of human control, especially as it gains decision-making abilities.
That is an imagination of the future.
But, you know, Hugo de Garris, he may be crazy.
He's undoubtedly a mad scientist.
But he's also a brilliant man.
And I think it's well worth looking into his view on this if you want to see where at least some of these guys want this to go.
steve bannon
No. You combine what Eric Schmidt said, talk about the compression of time in decision-making with what Eric said.
It is a window into how they're thinking.
Decision-makers are thinking of where this is all going to go.
Joe, what are your coordinates?
joe allen
How do people get to you? Check out the article, Countdown to Gigadeath from AI Arms Race to Artilect War.
You can find it at my site, jobot.xyz.
Find it at warroom.org under the Transhumanism tab or right at the top of my social media, Gitter and Twitter, at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z. Thank you very much, Steve.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother. Appreciate it, Joe.
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What patriots have always done.
Engage, okay?
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Ash Epps. Ash, you've done this incredible piece about the grassroots versus the establishment and about Team America.
Walk us through about what this, you know, you call it the priceless right, that it can't be bought, right, and its value is incalculable to the United States right now.
Walk us through the title, why you wrote it, and what does it tell us, particularly about Dan Schultz, Steve Stern, and the entire precinct strategy, ma'am.
@asheinamerica
Sure. Thank you so much for having me, Steve.
So I think it's really poetic that we're spending so much time talking about NORAD and World War III today because the story takes place in El Paso County.
El Paso County is the only county in the nation that's home to five military commands, including Cheyenne Mountain, which houses NORAD. So as you're speculating about the aliens, I'm wondering if they are trying to distract from the absolute massacre that they were handed on Saturday.
In El Paso County, since January of 2021, the America First populists there have been engaging in the precinct strategy.
The full swamp annex for the military-industrial complex has fought back at every step of the way to the point where they formed a secondary Republican Party in El Paso County and worked with the state GOP to attempt to revoke the charter of the populist party and hand it to this establishment group.
The piece is long.
It goes through all of the moves and counter moves, but basically what it boils down to is that the America First populist engaged on the establishment's playing field with their rules and with their refs, and they absolutely slaughtered them.
America First is the Republican Party, and I'm not a Republican.
I'm pretty antagonistic to the Colorado GOP. I'm very, very skeptical of the precinct strategy, but this two-year journey that America First Populists have been on in El Paso County, I was wrong, and I'm pretty happy to be wrong about this.
steve bannon
Tell us about that. What were you wrong about?
Because a lot of people, and I hear this from all over the country, and we're going to try to get more Participants on.
They go to the precincts, they stand up, they're so jacked up, and then they go and they meet immediately with the establishment, either at the county level or higher levels or even at their own precinct, and there's nothing but beatback.
What doesn't the establishment like about more people coming engaged and actually bringing in more voters?
Why do they hate this part of the movement more than they hate Democrats?
@asheinamerica
Control. It comes down to control.
The Republican Party likes to keep precinct roles vacant.
They like a small set of voting members that they can control, people that they can make backroom deals with and bring about their agenda.
Not the agenda of the people, not really the agenda of the Republican platform, but the agenda of the donors and the consultants and the establishment members.
Class. So when precinct strategy came about, and Colorado was tip of the spear on this, we were putting people into those positions in January of 2021, the establishment fought back hard every step of the way.
There's been, in El Paso County in particular, There's been legal activity.
There's been a full court press.
In the article, there is actually a clip of the Colorado state GOP chair telling the establishment group that she was speaking to that they could file to become a new Republican Party and the state committee would help them and really speaking down against the Colorado GOP or the El Paso County Republicans.
What's really interesting about this is in that clip, Chairwoman Burton Brown talks about how much money they had to spend in El Paso County to get out the vote.
And what's funny about that is, of course, they were spending that money, like many other places across the country, to fight the America First candidates, to fight the America First populace.
And once they did that and they got rid of the America First candidates, of course they lost because the Republican Party has zero credibility here.
steve bannon
What lessons? We've got about 90 seconds.
Walk me through. We want everybody to go to the article and I want Mo and Grace to put it up in all the chats and I'm going to put it up on Get Her Later.
What lessons learned?
What broader lessons can we take in this fight of populist versus establishment Republicans throughout the rest of the country, ma'am?
@asheinamerica
Oh, absolutely. It's don't give up.
It's the message of the war room.
It's shoulder to the wheel, step into the gap, and use your agency, use your personal skills, talents, and passions to get in this fight.
There are no NPCs in the Third World War, right?
We're all combatants, as you said, in the prior block.
Everybody's got to get engaged and get involved.
And when you take blows, in Colorado we've taken blows repeatedly over and over and over again.
When you take blows, you get back up and you get right back in the fight.
That's the message of the El Paso County Republicans.
In Colorado, we're constantly screaming warnings to the rest of the nation because what happens here spreads.
But in this instance, it's an encouraging message that you keep fighting, you don't give up, and you will see victory.
We're more than they are.
steve bannon
We're winning. Ash, how do people get to you?
What are your coordinates? Absolutely.
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steve bannon
Ash, honored to have you on here.
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steve bannon
The Lessons of El Paso County.
It's got Cheyenne Mountain, but it's also got the populist movement.
Okay, we're going to be back here from 5 to 7.
We will be lit.
Navarro's going to join me in the 5 o'clock hour.
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