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Jan. 13, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2440: Holding The Speakers Feet To the Fire
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scott perry
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steve bannon
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ben bergquam
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chris hayes
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people.
chris hayes
The people have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Baskin.
chris hayes
Thanks for having me.
I think the president's lawyers found the stuff where they said they found it.
But what's also striking is I'm already seeing ex-Trump officials and people on Bannon's podcast saying the fix is in and that her is actually a deep stater, right? So that already before, a guy who's a Republican, by the way, who is a Trump appointee, a Trump appointee, I cannot stress this enough, Democrats seem to really like Republican special counsels when they appoint them, just like they like FBI heads to be Republicans and Often DOD as well.
Fed chairs. I could go on.
But then Mr.
Herr is already being targeted by this sort of like deep state conspiracy theorist as already an adjunct to the inside plot.
unidentified
What do you think of that? He hasn't even done anything yet.
But, of course, they're willing to turn on anybody, no matter how much of a Trump intimate they are, if those people are not willing to slavishly follow exactly what they're told to say by MAGA Republican world.
So, you know, Michael Cohen, who was Trump's lawyer for a long time, Persona non grata.
William Barr, who was, you know, the most invertebrate sycophant in Trump world until finally he couldn't take it anymore.
And he just said, all of this is BS. They've turned on him.
So, you know, they're in a cult.
And so they demand absolute conformity and uniformity.
And I assume they're already trying to set her up For, you know, their inevitable disappointment when he doesn't come back with a series of criminal charges that they want, you know, of some, you know, grand felony nature.
Okay, let me have it. Let me have it.
steve bannon
Welcome. Friday, 13 January, Year of Our Lord, 2023.
We're going to go momentarily to the border of Colombia and Venezuela.
We've got Oscar Blue Ramirez and the intrepid Ben Berquam.
There we've got Cortez, Brigadier General and Congressman Scott Perry.
We're trying to work out Carrie Lake to talk about her appeal.
We've also got in the 11 o'clock hour about 1130.
You need to stick around for the show because we've got a very serious discussion about artificial intelligence and artificial general intelligence that you're going to want to stick around for.
Okay. The rats and I leaving the ship, you're going to see tons of discoveries.
As I told you in the days and weeks ahead, as they understand now that a, and General Perry will walk you through this, that hard-nosed Republicans basically put in office by you, this audience, are the vanguard of the salvation of this country.
And you're going to see across the board all types of revelations.
I jokingly call it, but only revelations.
You know, ironically, every day is going to be Christmas Day because other things are going to pop up.
And it's going to be across the board of what the administrative state trying to fight rearguard actions.
They're not going to change.
We're going to have to force that change.
And they still got their media protection, right?
As you see right there with Chris Hayes and you'll see with others.
A couple of things.
Just on this event, let's make sure they don't spin you in a certain way.
Compartmented. Top Secret.
Material was found by his lawyers.
This is the thing to focus on.
Why were his lawyers rummaging around?
They're going to move from the Penn office building, right?
The Penn, Biden, financed by the CCP with everybody having keys, including Hunter Biden, including Hunter Biden, who's on the payroll of the CCP. Why are his lawyers?
Let me give you the golden ticket.
In fact, Disney used to call it the e-ticket.
Let me give you the e-ticket in Washington, D.C., in the imperial capital.
The e-ticket, because the whole system is run by lawyers and law firms.
You see this, right? This is one of the issues with anybody, Trump.
Talking about retaining a law firm is not whether they want to take your case on or not.
It's that they say, hey, look, I can't do it.
Anything related to Trump immediately are corporate clients.
Yes, the corporate clients that the Republicans work for decades to get these massive tax cuts and they get the deregulation.
The woke companies won't get involved.
So the law firms run the city.
They run the city, okay?
An e-ticket, the platinum ticket, the best you can have is to be the lawyers, not the in-house White House counsel.
Remember, the White House counsel does not represent Joe Biden.
The White House counsel, since the time of General Washington, the White House counsel represents the office of the President of the United States.
That's what you have in the Trump administration.
You have White House counsel, Don McGahn.
That represents the office of the President.
The president obviously has his own lawyers and outside lawyers.
That's what these are, his own lawyers, outside lawyers as a entity, as Joe Biden, the human person.
The e-ticket in this town is to be the president's personal lawyers.
You've got everybody in the world coming to you.
You've got every potentate, every tycoon, everybody that's got a problem.
And trust me, they all got problems because in the Darwinian economic world we live in, let's say not the best get to the top.
Okay? So they all have problems and they all want to get into the Oval Office.
Why were his lawyers, these are the highest paid guys in D.C., packing up, and they said packing, you know, why are his lawyers In that closet, in UPenn. Why are his lawyers there on November 2nd?
I'll tell you why his lawyers are there on November 2nd.
They knew they had radioactivity coming from that.
They were tipped off, and they were tipped off before November 2nd.
Why are his lawyers sitting there figuring out how do we do this?
And by the way, it took place well before November 2nd.
Why are his lawyers in there?
Please answer that.
Hunter Biden's got full access.
This is compartmented, top-secret information, and we know it's about Ukraine and Iran already, and UK. Things the CCP would love to get their mitts on, right?
And did get their mitts on.
Hunter Biden had access to all of it.
The garage, he just throw it over there in the thing.
Oh, and he makes some joke about my Corvette, why I protect my Corvette.
That's supposed to be funny. But it's not just the intel you're going to start.
You know the thing, they lied so much while they had to put a special counsel and they went out to get an inside guy.
No, her is dirty.
He's dirty from the Russia gate.
Kash Patel called it out the other day.
Mike Davis called it out last night.
These guys know. They work in that area.
Her is totally dirty.
That's why the media today is going to say, well, it's not really a story.
I've got a special counsel. I noticed that that doesn't stop you on the Trump situation.
That's why conservative media has got to be all over this.
They say they found something on the second, then they knew they found it on the third, and they didn't even mention it the other day.
That's when the justices are going to go, well, now they're lying.
Now they're outright, you know, obfuscating, obstructing justice.
Here's the thing. It was inadvertent.
Intent has nothing to do with compartmented top secret information.
It's just black letter law.
You can't take it off anywhere.
Whoever took that, and they're going to try to follow some fall guy, but it's under Biden's name.
Because when you get compartmented top secret, it comes to you.
It doesn't come to the general office.
Your clearance is right there.
Only you can see that.
That's what compartmented.
Remember, you got confidential at the bottom, secret, and then top secret.
And that covers everything.
I mean, they got so much stuff that is in secret and confidential is ridiculous.
Top secret, I've got a problem with too much of it.
But when it gets compartmented, that means only you, only your eyes can see it.
Because it's compartmented.
It's not made to see by the, because they want in a vertical, they want very few or less people to know.
That was signed out to Joe Biden as Vice President of the United States.
And it doesn't fall into the Presidential Records Act.
They're already put in the stories. No.
It has nothing to do with the Presidential Records Act.
What happened in that closet, what you found next to the Corvette, are black and white felonies.
Okay? And anybody had access to it and didn't turn it over, that's a felony.
That's just a hardcore felony.
Simple, full stop.
Intent has nothing to do, inadvertent.
Just cleaning out the closet, didn't even know.
And we know the access of the Chinese Communist Party pays for Penn Biden.
And Hunter Biden's on the payroll of the CCP. Now the cover, the New York Times has a thing yesterday, completely tries to avoid a misdirection.
New York Times is not going to work.
It's not going to work. Comer, the committee, the oversight committee is coming hard.
Coming hard for Hunter Biden and the crime family and all of it.
Okay? And this is why conservative media needs to stop it.
Now, it's just not that.
It's just not that. You've got now and the vaccines.
Make sure you understand something.
You haven't watched our 6 o'clock show from last night.
I had Malone in doubt on.
And this is what you have to understand.
And by the way, Steve Cortez is probably an expert in this.
So many brave heroes refuse to basically follow this mandate.
You have a clinical trial.
This is what you have. What is going on is a clinical trial.
And Dr. Malone said the clinical trial is not working.
The clinical trial is not working.
He goes through the specificity of the clinical trial for the mRNA is not working.
It's not a successful clinical trial, much less something you can have max vaccinations on.
And guess who has the story this morning, bright and early?
NBC News now reporting that Offit wrote the op-ed in the Wall Street Journal.
He's a terrible guy. He's trying to cover himself, too, because the emails are going to come out on Twitter saying he should suppress all this.
Of course, Elon Musk puts up something on Twitter yesterday, and now they're in full meltdown.
All the stuff in the vaccine is now going to start coming out.
Oh, well, we didn't know.
You saw the FDA the other day.
This is all they're trying to cover.
They're trying to fight rearguard actions on all of their major elements.
It's not going to work. We're going to peel this back a layer at a time, and we're not going to be fooled, and we're focused on signal, not noise, and you're not going to put up a fog screen.
No fog of war here.
Axios today has.
Joe Biden is now going to the middle.
As he runs in 2024, conservatives, that's all BS. As Benzman shows you, they're gaslighting you.
The invasion of the United States is now more than ever.
And who knows this? I tell you who knows this.
It's Ben Burquam and Oscar Blue Ramirez, who happened to be on the Venezuelan-Columbia border, one of the railheads of all this.
But don't be fooled by it.
They're going to come out and try to do all misdirection plays, put all this information.
No. Because they don't want Mayorkas impeached, and they don't want Garland impeached over this, and they don't want Biden coming for the high crimes and misdemeanors on the invasion of the United States.
The high crimes and misdemeanor on the invasion of the United States of America.
Ben Burquam, Oscar Blue Ramirez, give us an update from the Venezuelan-Colombia border, sir. You're 100 % right.
ben bergquam
They're not going to change the policy.
It's a lie. It's the same lie that they always play.
It's basically misdirection to try to cover their ass.
That's what's happening right now.
They know the crimes that they've committed.
And the truth is...
It's the people behind them, it's the NGOs, the globalists, the communists that are behind them that are pushing these policies that will never allow them to change it.
It's the world view that they have that there are no borders, there are no walls, and ultimately America's a terrible country and needs to be remade in their socialist, communist image. That's what we're up against.
No matter what they say, no matter what policies they say they're going to change, that's what we're up against and that's what we're doing.
By the way, we're down here in Colombia.
We're starting the journey across the country to show the invasion that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris don't want you to see, the reality of it. We're talking to locals who are being impacted, Colombians who are being impacted by this as well, who are saying they're pissed off at what Joe Biden's doing too and what the Democrats are doing too, because it's not just destroying America, it's destroying Colombia.
We just got word that three blocks from us, a Sicario murder just happened.
We're going to be heading down to that as well.
It's an absolute disaster, and it's all brought to you by the Democrats.
oscar blue ramirez
It's the collateral damage that the Biden administration has created, not only for the United States of America, but Central America and South America.
These open-border policies, and the one that needs to go, all of them need to go, Mr.
Bannon, but the one directly that needs to be held accountable, it is Alejandro Mayorkas.
He's the one that hasn't been You know, strong with its immigration policies and ultimately has not done a great job and it has created chaos in every Central American and South American country.
These open border policies, globalist organizations infiltrating in every other country has impacted economy, security and also has increased, sadly, minor prostitution in cities that are border cities with other countries.
It is just, you know, horrible as this mass migration is coming to every country, sir.
steve bannon
You guys hang on for one second.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to be back in a second here in Real America's Voice, the War Room.
I want you folks to understand that whether it's Colombia, any country, the good, hardworking people, the little guy, the Lao Bai Jing of those countries, including the United States of America that do their work and raise their families, they're the ones being destroyed by this.
And the apparatus doesn't care.
unidentified
Next, in The War Room.
steve bannon
Your host, Stephen K. Babb.
Okay, on everything that we cover here, from the debt ceiling to the finances to the deficit...
to the administrative state, to the Biden's involvement with the Chinese Communist Party, to this intelligence situation, to the vaccines, to the mask mandates, all of it, everything you've gone through for the last couple of years, just understand it, in the invasion of the southern border.
Everything that you know from watching and showing the facts, you're going to see them trying to come and say, well, some of that's right, some of that's right.
Yeah, there are some problems to try to cover themselves.
No, no. We're going to get to the bottom of all this.
This is the great fight of our times.
Also at 1130, and I'm saying this seriously because we don't, you know, some people came on here, they come on and tell me, hey, got some humorous things. We're not, you know, we're not a funny show.
We don't try to be funny. There are other guys that do that, and men and women, and they're fantastic.
That's not us. Even the Rush Limbaugh thing that they did on that, it was fabulous.
That's not us. We're going to talk about the Antichrist at 1130 and transhumanism.
And exactly what's going on here, because it is very serious.
And I'm telling people now, not just the vaccine going to be a major political issue in 2024.
That's what tell me who's 2024, 24, 24.
Forget that. Just here and now.
That's all you got to worry about is the here and now because so many massive things happening.
But transhumanism and this whole issue of what's going on in the weapons lab, what's going on, what you're paying for, what tax dollars are going for, the use of proceeds in this.
Also, what your pension funds are going for.
Remember, they already did this in shipping all the jobs to China, the manufacturing jobs.
Wall Street, Larry Fink, Schwartzman, all those guys did it.
This is even more serious than that.
It's extremely serious.
And there's got to be calls for intervention, right?
There's certain elements of the system that are literally out of control, whether it's the central banks printing money, the apparatus. And I've got Burquam and Oscar down in one of the most dangerous areas in the world, that border. And hey, don't listen to me.
Listen to the Colombian people, the good, solid citizens in Colombia saying, hey, this is not good.
Right? They're down there. Real quickly, guys, I know you've got to reposition.
How dangerous is it down there for the average little guy in Colombia?
You know, you've got the Laobajing of Colombia and the central nations, the frontline nations, Mexico, the United States. They're always the ones that take it.
The men and women who raise families, go to church, play by the rules, pay their taxes, send their kids to the military.
In any country of the world, they're all the same.
It's Lao Bai Jing is the name the Chinese gave them.
Old hundred names.
The basic guy.
The little guy. Right?
They're always the one getting screwed in every nation of the world they get screwed.
Every nation of the world.
By the powerful.
Right? By the powerful and the wealthy.
That's just the way the system works.
How is it down on that border, guys?
ben bergquam
It's exactly that.
Same country, different country, same game.
90 % of the people here want to make a better life for themselves, raise their family.
And it's the same enemy that they deal with in all of these countries.
It's the cartels and corrupt government officials.
That's what these guys, all of them say.
And in particular, in places like this, We were just speaking.
Wait till you see some of these interviews with the locals we just did talking about this.
These young girls talking about the insecurity that they feel, the rapes that are happening.
And Blue did one. We're talking about prostitution of 10-year-olds and 12-year-olds.
The level of insecurity, of violence, of pure evil.
You talked about the antichrist.
It is unbelievable.
And as you said, Steve, it's the same here.
It's the same in every country around the world.
It's good versus evil.
And we're simply exacerbating it by the policies of Joe Biden.
oscar blue ramirez
Open border policies are pushing out the citizens of their own country to migrate to other countries.
That is one of the craziest things that I ever heard.
The citizens are saying, well, now I've got to leave my country because the migrants are coming in and they're taking our jobs, they're changing our culture, they're changing our lives.
That is one of the most shocking things that we heard today, this morning, Mr.
steve bannon
Ben. Guys, give the social media where people can get you for this live reporting, putting up all your interviews, and we'll let you reposition.
We'll get you for the 11 o'clock hour.
Get our audience up to date how they can get all this breaking news of your journey north.
ben bergquam
Well, first off, the only network you're going to get it on is Real America's Voice News.
You can get that at americasvoice.news.
We're going to be posting on our social media at realamvoice or at realamericasvoice, depending on the social media there.
My personal social media I'll be posting on as well at benberkwam and frontlineamerica.com.
oscar blue ramirez
At OscarBlue, OscarBlueRamirez.com and all social media.
And, of course, Real America's Voice News, sir.
steve bannon
Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.
Let's go to Dave Brett now. Dave, we're going to have the general on here shortly, Scott Perry, Brigadier General Congressman from Pennsylvania 10, to talk about investigations and all that.
Tell our audience how Congress works, but I particularly want to go to this outrage where the Democrats tucked in a $34,000 pay raise in an administrative thing that nobody read and nobody focused on.
Is that the way the system rolls when the Democrats are in charge?
dave brat
Yeah, unfortunately, that's the way it rolls when anybody's in charge.
I think we're coming up on a historic moment where that may change.
That rules package And the 20 who stood their ground on behalf of the American people to make things transparent may be the change we've all been waiting for.
Significant ways for everybody to take their place on the House floor and put bills in that have one purpose and then convey what's going on up there to the American people.
But yeah, the pay raise, I was in a unique position.
I'm one of the few guys that went to Congress and got a pay raise.
A lot of these people are doing fine and dandy.
And so, I mean, it is just kind of shocking when the American people are getting pummeled with inflation and real wages haven't gone up for 40 years and productivity is low and we're coming out of recession, that you give a 25 % pay raise to folks who make, you know, three, four times the national average.
Without means testing it or anything.
steve bannon
The underwriting, there's $34,000 about travel and all that.
I don't even know if people would have a problem if it was publicly debated.
What they did is in the dark of night, they slipped in one line.
This is the way the apparatus works.
I want to go to Paul Ryan. Paul Ryan yesterday is on, I think Jake Tapper is on CNN. He's literally going off on Trump in the Trump movement.
I want your experience.
Tell us what happened to you at the end of your time, because you were one of the few truth-tellers when Paul Ryan was a speaker, because he got everybody else in line.
They even kicked you out of the members' dining room.
What pressure came under Dave Brat to keep his mouth shut and stop talking about this stuff, sir?
dave brat
Yeah, well, it never worked.
You know, Paul was nice on a personal basis, but I was always out on the TV cameras because after I beat the person who was going to be speaker, the tight team up there, I wasn't especially loved.
And so I got no money to run, zero, right?
Vega, who just ran for the seventh, similarly, wouldn't bend the knee and make commitments to leadership, etc. And by the way, that's why term limits will not work fundamentally the way people would hope, because they just go to the people running in the primaries and get the commitments then.
So you can take out the senior folks, put in younger, but if the younger are pressured right off the bat, you're right back at it.
Their allegiance is to the Speaker.
That's why these rules of votes made so much difference.
But yeah, after I think it was back during the Boehner period, I got kicked out of the House dining room, tried to make reservations.
And so, you know, that's a trivial, humorous point.
But the no money, no committees.
I had a PhD in economics, not utilized at all by the Congress.
So the main point is they're not making these decisions on the best interests of the American people.
Everybody watching the show knows that.
They're making it on the basis of holding power.
The speaker was the emperor.
The best illustration I could give to people back then was I was on the budget committee, and it didn't matter if it was Bain or Paul Ryan or whoever.
They would basically say, hey, the number you're going to hit in six months is this number.
There's going to be a $1.1 trillion deficit.
You guys have fun talking and discussing all the critical issues of the day.
But that's the number you're going to report, right?
So a handful of people determine everything.
And another, people think I just tell these little stories, anecdotes, for no apparent reason.
But Gary Palmer and I found $40 billion we're paying to dead people.
We went to Paul Ryan and said, hey, Paul, can we put that toward the deficit?
He said, I'll check. We said, you're the speaker.
No one to check with. You're the boss.
So he checked. The answer was no.
And the reason is because all the revenues have already come in, right?
So if the revenues are in, everybody can look those up.
The answer is they've got to take $40 billion from somebody to put it over toward the deficit.
So it's going to come away from some favored person or group, and you've got to take $40 billion away from somebody in order to put it toward the American people.
That right there. And then I go home to my Tea Party friends and say, hey, let's do a Let's do a balanced budget amendment.
I said, did you guys hear the $40 billion story?
You think they're going to move $1.1 trillion from here to there when they can't even move $40 billion?
And they got it.
But it was just teaching.
And I didn't know any of this stuff until I got up there.
But that's the swamp we all know about, and those aren't the more devastating stories.
steve bannon
What do you have to do to change it now?
We're going to have Scott Perry on here in a second.
What has to happen to change it now, to make sure this is serious and not performative?
dave brat
Yeah, well, getting the three members on the rules committee, right?
The speaker is the emperor.
Everybody, the newscasters last week, just, you know, even the conservative sites were just making cover for all the wrong issues and all the wrong people.
The speaker is the emperor.
The key to the speaker is they initiate all legislation.
So on the news, well, you got 20 votes, you can stop anything you want.
Yeah, but have you ever noticed why a border bill never comes out of the Republican platform when it's in the platform?
Why doesn't it come out of the Speaker's office?
Why is there no wall?
Why is there no China committee?
Why is there no investigation into the Ukraine funding and audit?
Why is there no bill?
And on and on and on.
Why is there no balanced budget pressure ever?
They game it every time.
You're going to see it on the debt ceiling too, right?
They're going to find 30 or 40 Republicans to go along in the moderate seats and vote for debt ceiling increase.
And there goes your only point of leverage there.
And so buckle up and get ready for that one.
But the key is the speaker does everything.
So the hope now is there really are some checks and balances that restore power to the members.
And even there, it's not down to the mainstream members, right?
It's just to some of these key members that have fought the fight.
steve bannon
Dave, what is your social media?
How do people follow you down there at Liberty?
dave brat
Yeah, just Brat Economics on Getter.
Brat Economics at Getter.
And all these views are just my own.
I don't speak on behalf of...
unidentified
Own personal views. Yep.
steve bannon
Got it. Dave Brat down at Liberty, the dean of the business school down there, speaking in a personal role.
unidentified
General Scott Perry next.
Okay. Thank you.
steve bannon
Welcome back. We have a very special guest, Brigadier General Scott Perry, Congressman from Pennsylvania 10.
Congressman Perry, first off, give us an assessment.
You were the leader of what we call the other nine that made up The 20 that sent the letter to then pre-Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy, to say, hey, look, these things have got to be covered.
We need this. And then you guys fought the good fight.
Walk us through last week.
And what did you think you achieved?
scott perry
Well, Steve, thank you so much for having me on.
Look, last week actually started last summer.
You know, we saw what was coming.
We didn't know if it was going to be a red wave or not, but this is going to be an opportunity to change things.
And so we started a conversation last summer saying I went to Kevin McCarthy.
I've known him since young Republicans.
And I said, look, we've got to change some things around here so rank and file members can actually represent the district that they come from.
And so that we're standing up for the little guy.
And quite honestly, look, you know, power concedes nothing without a demand.
That's a quote from Frederick Douglass.
And so nothing, you know, patted on the head, sent packing, stayed throughout the fall, kept going back. Really no conversation until the day after election.
And it was a little back and forth, you know, some little things, Steve, like, well, we're gonna, you know, okay, we'll get rid of the proxy voting, we'll get rid of the magnetometers.
That doesn't do anything for the American people.
So, you know, we just kept pushing and pushing on some really structural reforms.
Structural reforms that look like a single-subject bill, Steve, so that the American people can see how their representative votes on something.
You know how this goes. There's a huge package with all this stuff on it, and everybody's able to say, well, I wasn't for that, but I voted for this, and I had to vote for all that to get this.
People are so sick and tired of that.
The 72-hour rule that's actually 72 hours to read a bill, not only for members of Congress, but for the American people, so they can see what the heck we're getting.
Look, these things shouldn't have been a fight.
So we were coming into the Speaker's race.
We didn't have any agreement on any of this stuff.
And on Monday night, a couple of us, myself included, went to Leader McCarthy and we said, look, we think we can get you to 218, but this is what we're looking for, some of these things, including this new weaponization of the federal government committee.
We shook our hands and said no and sent us out the door.
The next morning in the Republican conference, we're all berated.
We were being told we were being kicked off our committees, you know, the usual coercion and strong arm tactics.
And quite honestly, Steve, all that did was make us stronger.
We said the American people wouldn't stand for this.
We're not standing for us. And so we went out.
We did exactly what we told them we were going to do.
They said, you're going to blink. Well, we didn't blink.
And we just kept going.
And then they really wanted to start having a real conversation, which is where it happened.
And I know you've had some guests on that said, oh, this stuff was worked out a long time ago.
These guys were just grandstanding, getting stuff for themselves.
That's absolutely not the case.
As a matter of fact, you know, we said we want conservative representation on committees because right now the really the most impactful and important committees are all represented by the left side of our party.
And we kept saying that.
And finally, the guy says, okay, we'll put some names on this.
So you know what? We said, okay, we'll put some names on it.
Immediately, we put some names on it.
He goes out and says, these guys are just asking for things for themselves.
We gave him what we wanted.
Who are the real conservatives you want on these committees?
Well, we told him and he used it against us.
Again, that just galvanized the effort even more.
Look, it was one ugly pressure cooker, everybody working on us every single day, and we took it right to the edge because, look, Steve, you know politics.
At the other side of this, the risk is that there's a coalition of the left side of our party that works with a coalition of Democrats And we saw in Pennsylvania, we have a Republican majority by the Democrat Speaker.
Ohio, the same thing.
I've seen these things happen.
They can happen.
And that's the risk you take.
But we took it right up to the line because we knew it was just important to get some victories for the American people out of this struggle.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to make sure I want to reiterate, and this is for Sean Hannity and all my brethren, that Sean had Gates on Friday night, right, for the thing, and said, hey, I have no problem now with I see you doing it, but, you know, why didn't you, you should have just done this behind closed doors.
This is a culmination of 12 years from the Tea Party revolt, the 12 years culmination, and we fought for these things early and we're dismissed.
Not just that. That's the longer-term arc.
From last summer, these men and women were in there saying, hey, we're going to need these things.
And McCarthy's guys thought, no, we'll call their bluff.
On Tuesday morning, a guy stood up, Roger stood up and said, anybody goes out and votes.
After they heard everything, he said, hey, we heard everything.
We're walking to the floor now. Anybody votes against McCarthy, we're stripping you of your committee.
You're going to be like MTG. So that's what the profile occurs.
If I put it in three buckets...
Both content, like the border bill, the IRS agents, the debt ceiling, the term limits, all that.
You got content, you got process, there's huge things, then you got investigations.
Right now, those three buckets, tell us what progress we're going to make on all three of those, if you can just take a second. Because you got content, you got process things, you just talked about process, and then you got investigations.
They agreed to all of this.
How are you going to ensure that they can't fight rearguard actions?
Whatever he's concerned about, it's still the cartel is still kind of in charge.
How are you going to make sure that you're not bait and switch in general?
scott perry
So the one thing is, of course, as you know, Steve, we fought for the single person motion to vacate, which is accountability for the most A powerful guy in the building, which is the Speaker of House.
Look, if he wants to play games, we told him.
We all looked him right in the eye and said, Kevin, we mean it.
If you don't come through, we're going to hold you accountable for this.
So that's hanging out there.
On the content, we're going to run these bills through regular order.
They're probably not going to be exactly what we...
We want that Texas border bill.
That's the one we want, but it's got to go through the process.
We're for the process, but we have a commitment to get it on the floor.
I think that's going to happen.
You can't make people vote on it, but at least people are going to see how people vote on the weaponization of the federal government committee.
Again, we wanted a little more.
We wanted a little more independence, but it's under the care of Congressman Jim Jordan, which we have a lot of faith and trust in.
So my role in that, among other things, is to make sure it was as expansive as possible.
We want to look at everything. We don't want the FBI, the CIA, or any other agencies hiding behind the criminal side of it or the intelligence side of it.
You know, they play hide the ball all the time.
And we want to make sure that it's robustly staffed and can go to every single place where the facts lead us.
So again, it's in the hands of Jim Jordan now, so we're very hopeful that that's going to work out exactly as it should.
And then on the process stuff, things like the single subject rule and things that are germane doesn't only apply to the House, Steve, but applies to the Senate.
So when the Senate sends us over one of these Christmas tree bills with all the ornaments on it, Kevin McCarthy now has the tools.
And look, we're going to have to make him do it because he's not going to want to, I suspect, or it's going to be difficult to do it.
But he has the tools to say to Chuck Schumer and to Mitch McConnell, this bill is dead on arrival.
Send us one single subject and then we'll deal with it.
Otherwise, we're going to tear this thing apart and members are going to vote subject by subject by subject so that we can pass things and so the American people can hold their representatives accountable for the votes that they take.
steve bannon
This audience bombarded with emails and calls all over the country to have your guys back because they thought it was the most magnificent thing they'd ever seen.
This is really the 20 stand-up.
Give us a heads-up.
How should we know that the cartel is still trying to play games, particularly in these three buckets?
What would be Scott Perry saying, hey, this is what you should look to and this is what should trigger action?
scott perry
So if the investigation portion doesn't hire any more staff, if we see the wrong people, so to speak, being loaded up on that committee by leadership, we'll raise the red flag.
We'll let you know. If you see the speaker playing in open primaries or primaries between two Republicans that have been Forced into that circumstance by changing of seats in states.
You need to let us know, and then we're going to hold him accountable.
But part of the deal was that, as usual, Instead of supporting the conservative candidates, what they were doing was supporting candidates with millions and millions of dollars to make sure that that candidate would then vote for that person for speaker or leader or whatever.
That stuff's got to end. We got to elect people that are going to save the republic, and those are the people that we support.
And then on the process stuff.
Again, it's not just a process like single subject and germaneness and 72-hour rule, but it's putting the right people on the right committee.
We just got through the Appropriations Committee assignments.
We doubled our representation there.
One of the most important ones is the Rules Committee.
That's coming up, and we need to have the right thing happen there per our agreement.
And then we're going to let you know if they start getting squeamish and heading the other way, and then you can start blowing up the people.
Believe me, the 20 that went out are going to stay engaged, and we will let you know when it's time to ring the alarm bell.
steve bannon
I want to bring, because I know the hardworking people in Pennsylvania 10, right, to kind of the backbone of the country, are very concerned about the debt that we're running up for our children and this out-of-control spending.
I've already seen the French hills of the world, you know, the Wall Street lackeys, and I've seen McCarthy give a little limp leg.
They're already signaling, oh, the debt ceiling, you know, there may be some accommodations.
On the debt ceiling and spending, because a balanced budget was central to this, How real is that going to be?
How big a fight are you going to put?
Because this audience is on the trigger on this issue because they say this is the only way to stop this madness.
And you just saw where the Democrats went back door and gave everybody a $34,000 pay raise, which nobody knew about it. And if Republicans had not taken over the House, nobody would have ever known about it.
This is another thing that's coming up.
So how do we engage now for this titanic battle on the debt ceiling that's coming and not let the French hills of the world start worming out of it?
scott perry
Well, we've got to set ourselves up for success, so that has to happen now.
Look, we said that the debt ceiling cannot be passed through clean, and we've got to set up tactically the provisions that lock the Senate in further down the road.
So I would say, at a minimum, with the debt ceiling, what has to be connected to that is the continuing resolution at 98 % spending so that if the Senate refuses to do their work on the future on spending, that it actually ratchets The spending down.
Doesn't hold it level, which as you know, Steve, is always an increase, but actually reduces spending.
Washington, D.C., their heads will explode if that happens, but that has to be attached to that debt ceiling boat.
And look, it's leverage, so anything else that we want, whether it's forcing More on the vax mandates, on border, whatever. That has to be hooked to the debt ceiling.
And then members of Congress, they need to hear from their constituents.
Stand on that. Hold fast to that.
Do not let Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden get a weasel out of it.
Do not let anybody weasel out of it.
Push it down their throats like they do us, and then sit on your hands and let them swallow it down.
steve bannon
Last question, General.
You know about compartmented, top-secret information.
Biden's now saying, oh, it's inadvertent, everything like that.
Does intent have anything to do with highly classified information, whether it's inadvertent or inadvertent?
It's a felony from the army that you come from, sir?
scott perry
Steve, you wore the uniform as well, and you knew that any time you were dealing with that information, chain of custody, orders for couriers, and in the SCIF only, anything else, you were going to prison.
Those standards remain for every person in uniform.
Quite honestly, they remain for every citizen of the United States, and it doesn't matter if you're the president or the former president.
What we see is two standards of justice here.
I don't know how that stuff got in Joe Biden's garage or in the pen But I know in the Penn Center there's no Secret Service, there's no SCIF, and there's a bunch of foreign nationals running in and out of that place every day with unsecured classified information.
Somebody did it, somebody's responsible, somebody's accountable, somebody should be in jail.
steve bannon
Congressman Perry, how do people get to you, social media and your website?
scott perry
So just go to repperry.com and you can find me.
Look, I'm pretty out there right now.
So if you just search Congressman Scott Perry, you're going to find me a lot of places.
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Not all of them good, but you'll find me.
steve bannon
Hey, the not good places is showing that you're over the target.
That's right. Congressman Brigadier General Scott Perry, thank you very much.
Honored to have you on here. God bless you, Steve.
scott perry
Thank you so much. Yes, sir.
steve bannon
The 20, we've got to hold them together.
I think we're going to do a special about the 20.
All next, in the war room.
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In fact, that's how I stay up with Carrie Lake.
Carrie Lake is going to join us in a second.
By the way, the Biden things are now saying on the transition from Trump to Obama to the Trump thing, we put too much pressure on him.
It's all nonsense. Let me just be clear.
General Perry is that chain of custody.
This is compartmented information.
This is the most classified stuff we have above top secret.
If you have a top secret clearance and you're not compartmented, For this specific vent, for that specific vertical, you don't get it. You can have a top suit, you don't see it.
It's compartmented. They have chain of custody.
You can only read that stuff in a skiff.
You just can't take it wandering around.
They took it to a private office financed by the Chinese Communist Party.
These are just black and white felonies.
Don't let the spin go.
Why were the lawyers in the office?
Why did the lawyers come and say, why were his personal lawyers there?
Some of the most highly paid dialed in guys sitting on a platinum ticket.
Why are they in some closet at the pen?
By the way, they moved it from one location after transition to another.
We're going to focus on this because this Mar-a-Lago is nothing compared to this and all this saying, well, you can't compare the two.
They call them right away. It doesn't matter if you call them right away.
It doesn't matter. Yes, the cover up and all that, we'll get to that.
It's just black and white.
It's signed out under Biden's name.
He has chain of custody and he committed a felony.
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Full stop. Full stop.
steve bannon
Full stop. Okay, we got Kerry up here in a second, but I want to go to Venezuela because listen, the first days of what Katie Hobbs is, her first actions are changing pronouns and putting pronouns in the school and doing all this crazy stuff.
Left wing groomer stuff.
Okay? Carrie Lake said, when I take my hand off the Bible, we're calling an invasion of the southern border.
Well, that invasion, the railhead of it, is in Venezuela and Colombia.
Burquam in blue, give me a quick update because I know the police are going to groom you guys in a minute.
ben bergquam
What's going on? Yeah, Steve, we were just three blocks from where we are right now.
As we mentioned, we heard there was a Sicario attack, and you can see it actually right behind us.
There's the white Toyota on the ground next to it, as presumable believed to be the shooter, the Sicario shooter. We can't tell if that vehicle had bulletproof glass in it or not.
We don't know if there was a victim in the vehicle, but this is just how real it is.
Literally, while we were doing our live hit with you 15 minutes ago, There was a shooting down the street here.
This is the insecurity that these countries feel.
And as you mentioned, that's why the cartels wanted Katie Hobbs to win in Arizona.
That's why they put their energy and their effort behind the fraud of Katie Hobbs over Carrie Lake, because they knew Carrie Lake and people like President Trump are going to stop the cartels.
That's what Open Borders is inviting into America.
steve bannon
Oscar, is Oscar worthy?
Oscar, give us your assessment.
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How dangerous? It's extremely dangerous, sir.
oscar blue ramirez
This is the next-door border into Venezuela, and this is what pushes the normal average typical citizen away to migrate to another country and another country.
This is what also is happening in the borders with the United States of America.
We're actually seeing an example, a copy-paste of what happens with Mexico in the United States on a consistently daily-day basis, and this is what actually You know, portrays into the population and they immediately, you know, they start understanding that this is the number one thing that pushes them away to migrate into other countries, sir. Okay, guys, we're going to try to come back to you in the 11 o'clock hour.
steve bannon
Just keep up to date with Cameron, the producer, to make sure we can track you guys down.
Be safe. I want to go to Kerry Lake now.
Is Kerry ready? I got Kerry.
Kerry, here's the thing. Axios, the corporate media side of D.C., says today that Joe Biden is pivoting to the middle.
He's going to get conservative in his border policy.
TotalI. So he gets more radical.
This is the principal reason they had to steal this election from Kerry Lake.
It wasn't election. Election integrity is important, but that was second.
Her number one, if you follow the campaign and travel around with her, which I did, the number one thing was the invasion of Arizona, not just allowed for, exacerbated and pushed by the radical Biden regime.
And this is why they had to take Carrie Lake out.
They could not have a governor of Arizona down on that border where she said, hey, I think I'm going to get my inauguration down there, take the hand off the Bible. And call Biden out, challenge him.
How bad? And Katie Hobbs, what she's first doing is changing pronouns in the schools of Arizona.
What is going on here, ma'am?
kari lake
I mean, this is just infuriating.
And you just saw, Ben, in Colombia where they had Venezuela collapse.
And then you see the migration of Venezuelans going into Colombia, destabilizing that country, which was just starting to actually make its way.
And now they're completely destabilized.
They want the destabilization of America.
And this is why, in order to have that, they have to have a wide-open border.
And in a candidate like me, who's not controlled by the big donors, I'm not controlled by the establishment, political elite, we said it's real simple.
You don't need to be a brain surgeon to figure out how to secure the border.
You set your mind to it, and you go down there, and you finish the wall, put the National Guard down there, and stop people from coming over.
They couldn't have that.
They couldn't have that with me because then they'd be forced to close down the border in all these other states because the people would demand it.
And that's why they stole the election.
Steve, our elections are no better than the elections that are run in North Korea, than the elections that are run in Cuba or Venezuela.
We have Banana Republic-style elections, a wide-open border.
It is part of a move to destabilize this entire country, and I got in the way of that, and that's why they stole it in broad daylight.
But our case is doing well.
We just got good news from the appellate court.
They're taking the case on its merits, and we are moving through, and we're going to expedite that case, and we're going to move it right to the Supreme Court.
I don't want people to think for one second I've stopped fighting.
Unfortunately, our fight has gone into the legal system, and we have to work under the parameters and their timing.
steve bannon
I want to hold on. If you can hold through the break.
It'll be a 90-second break, and I want to bring you back.
We got Cortez up. We're going to go to South Dakota and talk about the precinct strategy, how the establishment there is trying to crush it.
But with Kerry Lake, you see, there's a kind of, as I told you, Lao Bai Jing means old hundred names because there's a hundred last names in China.
It stands for the common man, the little guy, right?
Lao Bai Jing. Lao Bai Jing is global.
Whether you're in Brazil, Colombia, Arizona, it's the people that work, it's the basics of civic societies, the ones that go to work every day, it's the ones that raise their kids to be upstanding citizens and go into the military.
It is the backbone of every nation on earth.
And that's what the central apparatus is bound and determined to destroy.
Carrie Lake, next in the world.
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