Aug. 5, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| Okay, welcome. | ||
| We're live here in the War Room Battleground. | ||
| We've put it together here live at CPAC. | ||
| I want to thank Frank Speech, Mike Lindell, the entire crew, Logan in Memphis for helping us get us set up in a quick change. | ||
| Father Bravone. | ||
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unidentified
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Steve, it's so good to be with you. | |
| So honored to have you here, brother. | ||
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unidentified
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You are in our prayers immensely and intensely. | |
| Fantastic. | ||
| I've got to ask you. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Kansas. | ||
| We had so much momentum after Roe v. Wade. | ||
| Talk to us about Kansas because as soon as that vote started coming in, all you heard was the mainstream media saying this is the end of the life movement. | ||
| All the momentum is on the pro-abortion side. | ||
| Tell us what's going on. | ||
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unidentified
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That's nothing but wishful thinking on their part. | |
| You know why sometimes these referenda fail? | ||
| Because the other side lies about what the referendum actually says. | ||
| They were pumping money, 75% of the money on the pro-abortion side of that referendum came, unsurprisingly, from outside of Kansas, right? | ||
| From pro-abortion groups that wanted to make that exact point, except the point is false. | ||
| We have a lot of momentum, we've got 43 abortion facilities How can you say you got momentum when we just lost two? | ||
| And the state doesn't come any more conservative than Kansas. | ||
| And by the way, the money's going to come from all over anyway. | ||
| How do you say we have momentum when two-thirds, it was two-thirds of the people in Kansas voted against Was it confusing? | ||
| Was it confusing the way it was written? | ||
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It was a complete lie told about what it is that they were voting for because people were told by the immense amount of ads six or seven million dollars worth that said oh you're voting to ban all abortion even in the cases of medical necessity that was nothing had nothing to do with what the amendment was the amendment simply said the same thing that actually that the Dobbs case said let us the people decide because a few years ago the Kansas Supreme Court Yes. | |
| took out of the hands of Kansans the right to decide because they said, oh, it's a constitutional right in the Kansas Constitution. | ||
| A right, by the way, that nobody had ever discovered before. | ||
| There's no such right there. | ||
| So all this referendum was trying to do was to say, no, there's not a right in the Constitution. | ||
| If the people want to make abortion legal, they can still work through their lawmakers and do so. | ||
| I challenge the other side. | ||
| Let's have an honest referendum where the people are actually told exactly what it says and what it doesn't say. | ||
| I guarantee we win every time. | ||
| How do you guarantee that? | ||
| Does the math show us that? | ||
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Yes. | |
| All the polling across America shows that the American people do not accept, have never accepted, abortion without limits. | ||
| What happens, what people have to understand, what's going to happen now in Kansas is that now they're instituting abortion without limits. | ||
| How many Americans, how many Kansans want a healthy mother in her eighth month of pregnancy carrying a healthy baby to be able to abort that baby? | ||
| Every poll that's been ever taken shows we do not accept that, and yet when you say it's a constitutional right, that's exactly what you open the door to. | ||
| Now what Kansans are going to find out pretty fast is that the pro-life laws they worked hard over recent years to enact, including parents having a say in their minor-aged daughter's abortion decision, Or clinic regulations for the health and safety of that mother? | ||
| They're going to start seeing these laws taken away or struck down as unconstitutional, and they're going to say, who decided that? | ||
| Well, unfortunately, the Kansas Supreme Court decided that, and you failed to stop it with this amendment. | ||
| I was actually not surprised at the outcome of this. | ||
| We've been able to pass amendments like this in places like West Virginia, in Arkansas, in Alaska, even in Florida. | ||
| But the propaganda is the problem. | ||
| The lies that are told. | ||
| Let me take it a different direction for a second. | ||
| You guys are about as sophisticated as media messaging is anybody. | ||
| You, for 50 years, took incomings, took defeats, were able to strategically think through what I have to do, what I have to move. | ||
| If people had problems with the way it was drafted, and had any inclination at all that there was going to be this loss, you call it propaganda, that's just the left getting in front of a message and driving it. | ||
| Because right now, what they're trying to say is that we've shifted momentum. | ||
| In fact, the reason I wanted to, when I heard you were here, I wanted you here because we had this massive momentum for midterms in 2022. | ||
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That's right. | |
| The entire CPAC conference is on fire Pelosi, save America. Right? And it's about two things, winning a massive victory in the midterms, and then executing on that afterwards. We've had this momentum, the Roe v. Wade decision we felt gave tremendous momentum. And in addition, you didn't really see that much blowback. I mean, for all the we're going to burn it down. | ||
| Yeah, in these cities, yeah, they were the kind of the usual suspects with the green hair protests. | ||
| And that's their right. | ||
| But you didn't see that really as a mass kind of upheaval of the American people. | ||
| Now, the polling, they kept saying, oh, no, this is going to be the secret weapon for the Democrats to thwart the red tsunami. | ||
| And now you've had Kansas and they've done an excellent job of taking what was a kind of a weird situation and turning it into a massive victory to say we have momentum and now we need the Republicans and the MAGA guys to abandon the life movement Where do you think, because you guys are, I know the father's very humble, but this is one of the most sophisticated guys around. | ||
| You had to, with no resources, to defeat what you defeated. | ||
| It's just, it's legendary. | ||
| How do you then convince people, no, they don't really have the momentum, and we really are going to go through these midterms and win, and one of the ways we win is the life topic. | ||
| The life issue is a winning issue for us. | ||
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Well, Steve, it comes down to how, as you know, how do you frame the argument? | |
| Whether it's conversation between individuals or any candidate's campaign in this midterm, The choice is not between, you know, every abortion is banned versus the situation we have now. | ||
| The choice is between the situation we have now, where it's a mixed bag, and unlimited abortion until birth. | ||
| Because that's the Democrat platform. | ||
| That's the Democrat agenda. | ||
| If we can frame the question that way, we always win. | ||
| This Kansas thing wasn't framed the right way. | ||
| But when you say not framed the right way, you have a significant right to life movement in Kansas. | ||
| And Kansas is one of the most conservative states in the Union, although it has a robust Democratic Party. | ||
| They've had Sebelius and some really pro-choice governors they've had. | ||
| How did the right people not get involved early on and say, we've got to get this amendment right, or, knowing it was not right, start putting out the warnings that, hey, because people, quite frankly, walked in there, and I was talking to people in Kansas every day, including people in the RIFE movement, and said, hey, we have massive turnout, and the reason we have massive turnout is support for the LIFE movement. | ||
| Next thing you know, the first numbers that come up are two-thirds, one-third against us. | ||
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Yeah, I think it was the avalanche of these ads that came in, again, from out-of-state money, out-of-state money, saying, oh, you know, you're not going to have the right to contraception anymore. | |
| If your life is in danger from your pregnancy, you're not going to be able to be treated. | ||
| These are the things they were literally saying, you know, rape and incest, and none of that was what the amendment was about. | ||
| So what we have to be careful of is two things. | ||
| A. Again, the framing of the message. | ||
| And B. Just this massive... I mean, if the other side weren't experts in lying... | ||
| We wouldn't have had Roe in the first place, right? | ||
| It was all based on lies. | ||
| And that's where we have to be vigilant. | ||
| We are going to have, across the board on this issue, this info. | ||
| We see it nationally with the response to Dobbs, right? | ||
| They're saying, oh, ectopic pregnancies, miscarriages, life-threatening emergencies in pregnancy are not going to be able to be treated. | ||
| It's all nonsense. | ||
| It's all a lie. | ||
| That's not true at all. | ||
| That's a lie. | ||
| In other words, that was there to confuse people. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| That's what they did successfully in Kansas. | ||
| It's not that they can't succeed in doing that again. | ||
| But I don't think on the national scale, when you look at overall the momentum, that they're going to be able to overcome what we've got. | ||
| We're at CPAC right now. | ||
| I want to talk about the momentum going up to the midterms. | ||
| Where do you see it coming from? | ||
| Is the life movement engaged at every level, at state legislatures, because we know this is going back to the states, but they are also engaged at the congressional level. | ||
| In other words, do you see the support and the enthusiasm and the intensity being on our side of the football and the life movement for this? | ||
| Or do you think that they're going to really use this Kansas situation to motivate the choice movement? | ||
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They're going to try to make Kansas emblematic of what's happening in the rest of the country. | |
| They're going to try. | ||
| I don't think they can get away with that because we do have, you know, right now, I mean, 43 abortion mills have been closed in 11 states. | ||
| Tell us why. | ||
| Well, because as soon as Roe fell, the people got to work on the state level. | ||
| Some of the laws kicked in automatically, as you know, because they were trigger laws. | ||
| But in a lot of other cases, you know, attorneys general went to the courts and said, OK, you've got to lift this injunction against this pro-life law because Roe That's what I'm hearing. | ||
| And they were ready to do that. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| They were ready to do that, and they did it. | ||
| In other states, laws are being passed. | ||
| New laws are being passed. | ||
| We've got momentum in Florida. | ||
| The governor's going to call, as I understand, a special session. | ||
| You're hearing Ron DeSantis will call a special session. | ||
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unidentified
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I think that's what I'm hearing. | |
| We'll see in November. | ||
| To do what? | ||
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To advance further laws for pro-life in Florida. | |
| Of course, he had just signed the one that made it like Mississippi, 15 weeks. | ||
| That's been challenged in court, but we're winning on that. | ||
| So we're going to... I think, Steve, what's going to happen is in these next few months, before the general, We're going to see the momentum keep playing out as states more and more, not only states passing pro-life laws, reasonable laws that most Americans agree with, but we're going to see more and more victories in the courts. | ||
| Because remember, one of the things Dobbs did was it took away One of the key arguments that's used in the lower courts to strike down pro-life laws, which is Roe and Casey. | ||
| You have a right to abortion. | ||
| The judges can't make those arguments anymore, even if they want to. | ||
| They're bound by what's called vertical precedent. | ||
| They've got to apply Dobbs now to the cases that come before them. | ||
| I think the momentum is going to speak for itself as we go into the general election. | ||
| And we've also had, over recent election cycles, an analysis of that portion of the electorate. | ||
| Various Wirthland polls and other companies show that that portion of the electorate that thinks abortion is a key issue in voting, They vote pro-life two to one. | ||
| Now will that change a little bit this time? | ||
| I think it will. | ||
| I think abortion is higher now on when you ask voters what issues are of more importance. | ||
| I think crime, inflation, immigration are still at the top. | ||
| Does it concern you that also on the pro-choice side that that number has also gone up? | ||
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Yes, I think it's more this time than usual because of what's happened. | |
| But I don't think it brings them over the victory line. | ||
| Before I let you go, and get Janet Marino in here in a second, before I let you go, Well, you talk about the momentum and all the positive stuff. | ||
| Gavin Newsom has, and he's going to stand astride of the Democratic Party on the evening of November 8th. | ||
| They're going to get shattered. | ||
| They're going to lose the House. | ||
| I believe strongly they'll lose the Senate. | ||
| They'll lose state legislatures. | ||
| They're going to lose school boards. | ||
| They're going to be shattered. | ||
| They're going to have one shining spot, and that's going to be California. | ||
| It's going to be Gavin Newsom. | ||
| And Gavin Newsom is going to win by 20 points in his governor's race. | ||
| He's going to have $250 million in the bank. | ||
| And he's sitting there saying, I am making California a sanctuary state for abortions. | ||
| He is the opposition. | ||
| And he's going to be one of the, if he's not the nominee for the Democrats in 2024, He's at least going to be one of the guys that fights out to the end. | ||
| Is Gavin Newsom setting himself up with a series of policies to make California the example for the pro-choice groups to rally around? | ||
| And does that concern you? | ||
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Well, I think that's what he's doing and what he's trying to do and I agree with your analysis. | |
| I was out speaking in California several times actually since Dobbs came down and what I told the people out there was Whether California becomes a sanctuary for abortion or not is not up to Gavin Newsom. | ||
| I said to the people, it's up to you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Because this is where now people have to rise up and say, wait a minute. | |
| Do you think California is a pro-life state? | ||
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You know... | |
| Not overall, because you've got these population centers, but that's the problem. | ||
| You've got the big population centers, L.A. | ||
| and San Francisco and so forth, but you subtract that, I mean, all up and down the state, there's such strong pro-life people and movements and groups, it's really strong. | ||
| So what I said to them is, stay strong, and don't let the other side take this from you by default. | ||
| Don't let them, you know the old saying, the battle is in the mind of the enemy. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So if you make the pro-life people of California perpetually think that they can't win, they're in the minority, the state is solidly blue, no blue state is blue by dogma, you know? | ||
| It can change. | ||
| And I think the pro-life people in California now, because of Dobbs, Are more motivated than ever to say, we're standing up and we're going to set the policy in this state because it's no longer a constitutional right. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| It's going to take perseverance. | ||
| It's not going to be something overnight, but we got to keep encouraging the troops. | ||
| What happens if Gavin Newsom successful and turns California? | ||
| California is about 40 million people. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| It's the seventh biggest economy in the world. | ||
| It's got the dynamism of Silicon Valley in Hollywood. | ||
| I mean, these are two power centers, particularly in a post-industrial world. | ||
| Newsom's a very cunning politician. | ||
| He understands what he's doing. | ||
| If he is able to turn it into a sanctuary for abortions, what is the pro-life, where does that put us overall, and what should be the response for the national, not just the California, Yeah. | ||
| but the national pro-life movement and trying to thwart because he's going to present 2024 as the California model versus Trump's MAGA. | ||
| He's going to say Trump's MAGA is the handmaid's tale. | ||
| It's a bunch of reactionaries, right? | ||
| And I'm offering you the sunlit uplands of a progressive wonderland. | ||
| And I'm the model. | ||
| What is the pro-life movement that's done such a great job in getting us to the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the Dobbs decision? | ||
| What's the response? | ||
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He thinks, he's assuming that people in other states who can't get an abortion in their own state You don't buy that? | |
| be willing to travel to California to get one. | ||
| First of all, I would challenge that presumption. | ||
| We haven't... | ||
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unidentified
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You don't buy that? | |
| Not as a... | ||
| As glibly as people just assume. | ||
| Right, because we have found, and we're working with these women every day who attempted to have abortions or who have had them. | ||
| We have found it's not a kind of a decision that has the firmness of someone who's willing to crawl over broken glass to get it. | ||
| Women getting abortions are very ambivalent about it. | ||
| Sometimes it only takes two elderly women praying the rosary in front of the abortion clinic for them to take that as a sign from God that they shouldn't do it. | ||
| And they turn around. | ||
| So the presumption is wrong, first of all, that they're necessarily going to come. | ||
| Secondly, those who would come, we've still got the strongest ever pregnancy center movement that we've ever had in all 50 states. | ||
| And so what we're going to do, our response, like you're saying, if he does this... These are the pregnancy centers that the left says that you're misleading women. | ||
| You're misleading women. | ||
| By the way, what services When someone comes in and says, hey, look, I'm open to having the child. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| But I can't afford it. | ||
| I'm not married. | ||
| What are the potential services, or what potentially is the cover? | ||
| What can people do to make sure that there is something there that they can grab onto to actually have the child and understand they're not going to be in dire poverty the rest of their life? | ||
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unidentified
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Right. | |
| If they don't have the economic resources, there are people ready to give them job training, find them jobs, help them pursue their education while having the baby, if that's what they choose to do. | ||
| Legal advice. | ||
| It's that fully developed. | ||
| And if they go to a pregnancy center, this is the type of thing that you can help people with. | ||
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unidentified
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Pregnancycenters.org is the main website. | |
| You put in the zip code, you'll find the center. | ||
| Pregnancycenters.org. | ||
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unidentified
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Pregnancycenters.org. | |
| Yeah, it's that developed. | ||
| I mean, parenting training, help to make an adoption plan, whatever it is that they need. | ||
| A place to stay if they don't have a place to stay. | ||
| But then you've got a lot of people who do have the financial means to have that child. | ||
| They're just filled with fear. | ||
| And a friendly, professional person to walk them through those fears. | ||
| Fear of the unknown. | ||
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unidentified
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Fear of the unknown. | |
| Fear of, hey, I didn't plan on having this child. | ||
| What do I do now? | ||
| I can't do it. | ||
| And people will walk alongside them and say, yes, you can. | ||
| Talk to me about what you were just saying about people. | ||
| It's not a firm decision and people aren't going to fly or get on a bus and go 900 miles. | ||
| Talk to us about that decision. | ||
| So you don't buy the glibness that, oh, we'll make it a sanctuary state and everything... They're going to flee here, yeah. | ||
| Because that's the pitch he's making, right? | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, that's the pitch he's making. | |
| Because this is what a lot of these folks actually think. | ||
| Oh, you know, she's so determined to have an abortion, nothing's going to stop her. | ||
| Oh, yes, it will. | ||
| I've had people have said to me, well, I didn't go through with my abortion. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because I got lost on the way driving to the abortion clinic. | ||
| You know, and it's as simple as that. | ||
| Professor Michael New, let me throw that name out there. | ||
| He's a pro-life researcher. | ||
| He has taken the state laws that we have had, even pre-Dobbs, that simply regulate abortion in various ways. | ||
| You gotta wait 24 hours, right? | ||
| After you get some information about the procedure. | ||
| Those laws are saving lives. | ||
| Saving lives not in the sense that they're going to a different state, where they don't have that law. | ||
| Saving lives in the sense that they changed their mind and they have the baby. | ||
| Just simply because they had to wait 24 hours. | ||
| So, when you have a law that is actually prohibiting abortion, We know from the women we work with, they don't want to be lawbreakers. | ||
| They really don't. | ||
| They want to do what's right. | ||
| And, you know, the law is a great teacher, and 50 years of saying, oh, it's legal, it's legal, many people think it's okay. | ||
| With this changing now? | ||
| No. | ||
| They're very ambivalent, and a lot of them are going to choose life because of these laws. | ||
| Talk to me, why are you here at CPAC? | ||
| This is to fire Pelosi, save America. | ||
| This is the push to... And by the way, she's a devout Catholic. | ||
| She's a devout Catholic. | ||
| The Pope told us that when he went to the Vatican. | ||
| The San Francisco Cardinal said, not on my watch. | ||
| So why are you here at CPAC in August? | ||
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First of all, for my own personal exhilaration, inspiration, connecting with people like you and with all our colleagues in this great fight. | |
| Secondly, I'm able to share some thoughts. | ||
| I'm going to be giving one of the talks tomorrow. | ||
| What time is your talk tomorrow? | ||
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unidentified
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My talk tomorrow is at 3.20 in the afternoon. | |
| Is it on a panel? | ||
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unidentified
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It's on a panel. | |
| Tell me about the panel. | ||
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unidentified
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It's going to be about faith versus fascism. | |
| It's going to be about the Dobbs case, but it's also going to be about how is it that we got to the point in this country where we're killing these babies, where we can't say a man is a man or a woman is a woman. | ||
| By the way, I think the answer to that is for 50 years we've been saying a baby's not a baby. | ||
| That's when we broke from reality. | ||
| But I'm going to talk about what is the restoration of faith like in addressing all these problems. | ||
| So it's going to be a fascinating discussion. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Give us a heads up. | ||
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The church says if you forget the Creator, the creature becomes unintelligible. | |
| And that's the bottom line. | ||
| We've lost the sense of what human life is, who the human person is, because we don't know who God is anymore. | ||
| And for people who either don't believe that He exists, or believe that, yeah, it's a God, I make Him in my own image, That's where you end up with all this evil, and no longer can you even have... These are bigger cultural issues. | ||
| People are talking about how they're all freaked out on MSNBC and the New York Times about what they say is the rise of Christian nationalism. | ||
| I think when we look at things, we see the basis of the Judeo-Christian West receding from the public square. | ||
| That you can't talk about any of these values or concepts anymore. | ||
| This is the fascism part. | ||
| How do you think that we get more of that conversation into the public square right now? | ||
| Because isn't that what we're missing? | ||
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It is what we're missing. | |
| You know what I think the answer ultimately is? | ||
| We need martyrs. | ||
| That's how the faith grew at the beginning. | ||
| For people to do things that make the rest of the people turn their heads, and not just say, oh, so-and-so believes such and such. | ||
| Well, everybody believes something. | ||
| People have believed things for centuries. | ||
| We've got to do things that make people turn their heads. | ||
| And Steve, I'm not saying this just because we're here on the show together right now, but you're an example of this yourself. | ||
| People make people turn their heads and say, why on earth Is that person doing that? | ||
| They must be motivated by... You know, this is how Bernard Nathanson came to faith. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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The architect of the abortion movement. | |
| He saw people rescuing in front of these abortion clinics. | ||
| He said, there's something here I don't understand. | ||
| There's a force that's driving these people to give themselves for these babies. | ||
| Well, they got to see that force in us driving ourselves to give ourselves for the babies, for freedom, for America, for our children, for education, for the security, for all of it. | ||
| You're a hero. | ||
| How do people get to you on social media? | ||
| By the way, he has not taken one day off after Roe v. Wade. | ||
| This guy works every day of the week. | ||
| You're a man of faith and a man of God. | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
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FRFrankPavone on all the major platforms, starting with Truth Social and Getter and all the rest. | |
| FRFrankPavone on social media. | ||
| Father Bravone, you're saying right now we're still pushing forward with the life movement and we're going to have big victories in the midterms. | ||
| Don't believe what the mainstream media says when they say that we've lost our mojo after Kansas. | ||
| That's the message. | ||
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If we believed that now, it's the same message they've been giving us for five decades and they've been wrong all along. | |
| Well, I tell you, they told us for five decades, and Father Bravone and these other great warriors did prove them wrong. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Janet Marino is going to join us next. | ||
| We've got the Monster Liberty. | ||
| We've got a packed show in the second half. | ||
| Father, always an honor. | ||
| Always an honor. | ||
| Keep us in your prayers. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| And keep our enemies in your prayers, too. | ||
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That's right. | |
| Father Frank Pavone. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be back in War Room Battleground. | ||
| Frank's speech. | ||
| We're here live at CPAC. | ||
| We've got two more PAC days. | ||
| Tomorrow, wall-to-wall, 10 to noon, and then back here at 5 to 7 Eastern Time. | ||
| And then Saturday morning, we're doing a live special in the lead-up to President Trump's speech. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back here live at CPAC in a moment. | ||
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So good to see you. | |
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| Very honored to have Janet Morano. | ||
| Janet is a wingman for Father Pavone. | ||
| The book is Everything You Need to Know About Abortion for Teens. | ||
| Look, here's the reason I want to have you on here. | ||
| The shock of this Kansas Debacle. | ||
| It seems like it's giving momentum to the left, right? | ||
| And they're saying that in the midterms that this is going to be the driving force that's going to thwart the MAGA movement for the takeover of the House and the Senate. | ||
| One of the things they're criticizing, they're saying, hey, these people are all great and saying Roe v. Wade and no abortions, but there's nothing there for the underprivileged woman. | ||
| There's nothing there for the woman that's in fear, and particularly what they're focused on is that all these radicals want to have teenagers have all these babies. | ||
| This book, Everything You Need to Know About, is actually for teens. | ||
| How do you respond to that? | ||
| How do you respond now that they're making one of the number one political issues in the country is this whole issue about the life movement or the abortion movement for teenagers? | ||
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unidentified
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Well, first off, for teenagers, Planned Parenthood and the abortion industry targets them. | |
| They're in our high schools. | ||
| Targeted? | ||
| What do you mean targeted? | ||
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Well, because they're in the curriculum. | |
| A lot of high schools allow them to come into a high school and make Planned Parenthood presentations in your public high schools. | ||
| You mean as part of, as they say, sex education? | ||
| Yes. | ||
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They bring them in under sex education. | |
| So what do they do? | ||
| What do they do while they're in high school? | ||
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They're offering free condoms. | |
| They're offering birth control and all that. | ||
| I mean, it's terrible. | ||
| That's their idea of sex education, is that it's okay for teenagers to continue to have sex, but we're going to give you all the birth control and things you need so you can have all the free sex you want. | ||
| In my book, I do a full chapter, Steve, on chastity, but I show the kids all this, you know, friends with benefits, sleeping with people. | ||
| The amount of STDs in our country has gone skyrocketed, and those are facts by the CDC, I'm making it up. | ||
| CDC facts. | ||
| So I showed the kids, you know, you can have all this free love and free sex when you're in high school and college, but then ladies later on, you get married, you want to have kids, you might have ruined your fertility because of that, because of these diseases, pelvic inflammatory disease and so on. | ||
| In the book, what do you talk about? | ||
| I was going to ask Father Bravone this. | ||
| Services, if you're a teenager and you're pregnant, what are the services, what are offered so that you're not facing this alone? | ||
| Because they're making the argument, you guys are all about pro-life, but then you just dump these people, you just kick them to the curb. | ||
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Absolutely not. | |
| That's not true. | ||
| See, there's over 2,800 Pregnancy Help Centers all over this country. | ||
| You can go to a simple website. | ||
| I challenge everyone, go to PregnancyCenters.org. | ||
| Put in your zip code. | ||
| PregnancyCenters.org. | ||
| You'll see where the nearest Pregnancy Help Center is. | ||
| And this is real help. | ||
| Not just diapers and formula. | ||
| We're talking about medical help, a place to stay if that girl needs it, education and job opportunities. | ||
| They're not just here to have her birth the baby. | ||
| They're here beyond. | ||
| And most of these centers, they keep them as clients till the baby's at least two years old. | ||
| At least two years old. | ||
| So they help the mother through the whole transition of the baby. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| They're here for them for the whole thing. | ||
| And if the girl wants to make an adoption plan, They're here for them too. | ||
| Make people feel better because right now the left, every news site, every cable TV on the left is saying that Kansas innervated the left. | ||
| That the momentum is now on their side as far as the midterm elections go on the whole issue of life. | ||
| You're not buying that. | ||
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I'm not buying it one bit because, first of all, what happened in Kansas was very tricky because, first of all, the other side lied. | |
| They used scare tactics. | ||
| But they always lie and they always use scare tactics. | ||
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They were scaring people, first of all. | |
| So what's different than what you've faced the last 50 years? | ||
| I understand what they're saying is they're scaring where there's no abortions in a state. | ||
| They're saying, oh, women are going to die because of miscarriages in a topic pregnancy. | ||
| That is such a lie because there's medical treatment that has nothing to do with abortion. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's two different things. | ||
| When you have a miscarriage, Steve, that's called a spontaneous abortion. | ||
| When you have an elective abortion, that's a planned parent abortion. | ||
| I'm deliberately going in with a healthy baby, healthy mother and killing that child. | ||
| That's the difference right there. | ||
| But they're using these scare tactics. | ||
| And the other thing, too, is the amendments are not being clearly so that people can understand. | ||
| They get confused. | ||
| What is my yes vote? | ||
| No vote. | ||
| But they do that on purpose. | ||
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Of course they do. | |
| But why is the Life Movement not in Kansas? | ||
| Why were they not there to say, hey, this thing's tricky. | ||
| We shouldn't put it forward. | ||
| We should rewrite this amendment. | ||
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How did that happen? | |
| I don't know what they did, but I could know what Priests for Life did. | ||
| We did a whole blitz, email blitz, phone call campaign. | ||
| Everybody on our list in Kansas Were you surprised by the outcome? | ||
| Two-thirds, one-third, in a conservative state? | ||
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I was surprised, but Kansas also was the home of George Tilla, a late-term abortionist in Wichita. | |
| And as you know, back in the days of the rescue days, there was a lot of things happening in Kansas. | ||
| So, I'm not giving up. | ||
| Given all the momentum that came off Roe v. Wade, and one of the things that I think shocked people was that there was not that much counter-demonstration. | ||
| For everything it was supposed to be, a lot of these rallies and all of that didn't really play out. | ||
| How do you make people feel comfortable that the life movement is going to be, you know, Susan B. Anthony, everybody's going to be completely focused on these midterm elections? | ||
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Well, I know what we're doing, and Father Pavone and I help host meetings of pro-life leaders, and we are united and strong right now. | |
| And people are focused? | ||
| They're laser focused on the midterm elections, and at Priests for Life, we have a great website, prolivevote.com. | ||
| Go there, join our election team. | ||
| We're training, doing the ground game, and we will take back the House. | ||
| We will increase the Senate, and then the White House in 2024. | ||
| Look, you guys had the greatest fight ever over 50 years. | ||
| You're saying that fight's far from over. | ||
| You're totally dedicated to the midterm elections. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| You're having meetings along with leaders of the movement. | ||
| And everybody's coming together to unite, to make sure you're knocking on doors, walking precincts, all the great grassroots stuff that Susan B. Anthony and all these other rights to life, you guys have done what I call the pick-and-shovel work all the time. | ||
| And you're completely dedicated to do that? | ||
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That's right, absolutely. | |
| And I need people on our team, so go to ProLifeVote.com and join us. | ||
| Give us that again, it's what? | ||
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ProLifeVote.com. | |
| Okay. | ||
| And then the book, AbortionAndTeens.com. | ||
| And where do people get this? | ||
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AbortionAndTeens.com. | |
| That's where they go? | ||
| Yep. | ||
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You're a hero. | |
| I tell you. | ||
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God bless you. | |
| I always love having you on. | ||
| I'm going to keep this. | ||
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You keep that one. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| You gave me one last time. | ||
| All right. | ||
| By the way, we're going to have Moms for Liberty are going to be here in a second. | ||
| Let's go ahead and do a shift right here. | ||
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Okay. | |
| We're going to produce an air. | ||
| Janet, thank you very much. | ||
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God bless. | |
| Love having you on. | ||
| Catalina, Stu joins us. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| Moms4Liberty. | ||
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Great, great, great. | |
| Now you're the Hispanic coordinator nationwide for Moms4Liberty. | ||
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That's right, that's correct. | |
| So walk us through. | ||
| Right now you have Moms4Liberty's got all the energy, right, because you're taking over school boards, you're fighting for parental rights. | ||
| At the same time, you've got the Hispanic vote and the Hispanic community is coming towards The MAGA movement. | ||
| So walk us through, walk us through what is your specific responsibility and how are you helping pull the Hispanic community into support us in 2022? | ||
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Well, we are all in this war against indoctrination and gender ideology. | |
| It's a spiritual war that we have to take in hand and we take it very personal because it's our children and that's why we're very passionate about it. | ||
| That's why we are not going to... Is this a big... Is this one of the things that MAGA movement is most attracted to the Hispanic community because The natural conservatism of Hispanics and the family nature and how center the family is to the Hispanic community. | ||
| Are they outraged with what they're seeing Democrats do right now? | ||
| Is that why this is such a big moment? | ||
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Well, Democrats have been taking for granted always the Latino votes. | |
| And they are wrong, because we are awakening every day of this radical left agenda. | ||
| And obviously, it's not aligned with our values. | ||
| Hispanics have strong values with traditions, beautiful traditions, based on faith, family, and freedom. | ||
| And obviously, we are going to defend that. | ||
| And that's why it's so important the Hispanic vote in this coming up elections to seek for candidates also only aligned to our values. | ||
| And talk about the midterms. | ||
| Right now, the numbers we're seeing are of a historic nature. | ||
| I mean, I've been seeing polls and we have the new Hispanic language, El Americano, that's here. | ||
| They're talking 50, 55, maybe 60% of the Hispanic vote would actually—and this is where Biden carried it, supposedly, theoretically, by 30 or 40 points. | ||
| Do you see, as you go around, do you see the possibility we could get 50% of the Hispanic vote this time, or maybe even more? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| You believe that? | ||
| I'm completely confident that the Hispanic vote is switching from Democrats to Republicans, no doubt. | ||
| What's the principal reason for that in your mind? | ||
| Because this has happened so quickly. | ||
| Look, Steve Cortez and myself have been fighting on this For years. | ||
| In fact, when Steve came on the campaign in 16, one of the biggest things we wanted to do was get Trump out more, get MAGA out more in the Hispanic community. | ||
| Now it's really coming to fruition. | ||
| What is it about this moment in time that you think is driving that vote? | ||
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I think when they are messing with our children, it's panic at mama bears that protect a lot of our future. | |
| It's our legacy. | ||
| Children are very personal to us. | ||
| Obviously, not only because God gave us this right, and it's not a politician that gave us that right. | ||
| It's not a politician that is going to change policy and tell you what to put or what to inject to your children. | ||
| or what education and morals you are going to give to your children. | ||
| They are actually changing this standard of morality, and it's not a line for us, the Hispanic community. | ||
| It's at all what they have been teaching us, our abuelos and abuelas. | ||
| And obviously, we're waking every day. | ||
| Even if the media is manipulating all the information through these two main outlets that they have. | ||
| What are the two main outlets? | ||
| I want to talk about that. | ||
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Univision and Telemundo Univision. | |
| Is Univision and Telemundo both hardcore, leftist, secular? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Totally tied to Hollywood and the entertainment industry. | ||
| Forget Trump and MAGA. | ||
| You're not getting any conservative message at all? | ||
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They are not providing any information on the abuse they are doing on our children. | |
| They are not giving any data. | ||
| They are not giving any facts. | ||
| And we have the facts. | ||
| And actually, you see, I always get an interview with a conservative outlet. | ||
| And never, well yes, I have been interviewed but very little. | ||
| It's like the percentage of the interviews in Telemundo Univision is mostly nothing compared to what I do normally in all the outlets. | ||
| So you can see clearly what is their agenda and who they are backing up and what they are aligned to. | ||
| And they don't like when we expose the data and we expose and held accountable the politicians who are against the education. | ||
| Univision and Telemundo are the TV networks? | ||
| We all know that one of the things that drives politics is AM radio, and we just heard a couple of weeks ago that Soros Bart, I think, was it Mamby? | ||
| Mamby, which is probably the classic AM radio station in South Florida for the Cuban community for years. | ||
| He got rid of all the anchors. | ||
| A lot of those went over to Al Americano, which is on Sirius XM. | ||
| They're launching here at CPAC, If that's cut, if that's closed to you, how can we be talking about 50 percent? | ||
| I mean, I've been in the Rio Grande Valley. | ||
| I've been all over the country. | ||
| I see the enthusiasm of Hispanics that don't want any more of the Democratic Party. | ||
| But if they have, you know, Telemundo and Univision, and now he's buying up the biggest of the AM radio stations, how do you compete with, how is it worth getting out to the Hispanic community? | ||
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Well, they are trying to shut us down and shut down all the outlets that normally are very conservative because they were founded by people who know by first hand communism. | |
| They are from Cuba, they are some of them from Venezuela. | ||
| But they are not going to shut us because we awaked and we are always going to sink. | ||
| The community is awakened. | ||
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Yes. | |
| But if you've awakened and you don't have any outlets or platforms, do you do it on social media? | ||
| Do you do it by personal contact? | ||
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We have, and there is other outlets that they are coming up. | |
| For example, Voz Media is coming up, Americano is coming up, that they are here also in CPAC. | ||
| There are other outlets that they support Hispanic communities and radios, and they are shooting that, but we are going up with another one. | ||
| And Latinos are very smart. | ||
| Yes, very entrepreneurial. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| And they can do the difference between good and bad because this is what is happening right now. | ||
| It's a mental battle and a spiritual battle. | ||
| You believe this is a spiritual battle? | ||
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Totally. | |
| No doubt in your mind? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| No doubt. | ||
| You've seen it in your life? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Yes, and you see the consequences. | ||
| And all these policies is leading only to destruction, to suicides, to problems in the people. | ||
| I never see any improvement on the sexual behavior of any children with the education in all the schools. | ||
| So, you can see the results. | ||
| comes in and tries to do that. | ||
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So you can see the results. | |
| Let's talk about Monster Liberty because right now when you go to liberal media, progressive media, they say these are a bunch of crazy moms that are, they don't want the real teaching of American history. | ||
| Domestic terrorists. | ||
| Domestic terrorists, domestic terrorists and the FBI is watching. | ||
| They don't want to see the real teaching of American history. | ||
| on CRT. They're also crazy, anti-Max, anti-vaccine, and now they're all haters on Don't Say Gay. | ||
| And DeSantis is not the problem. The problem is Tiffany Justice, Catalina, Tina, and the other Moms for Liberty. They're pushing a radical hate-filled agenda. What say you to that? | ||
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So, actually, Steve, I came from Colombia. Never in my life I never thought about coming to United States to defend freedom. | |
| It never passed through my mind that in this United States you have to defend freedom and you're going to be punished by that. | ||
| And so what we actually... I mean, when you were in Colombia and said, well, the United States is freedom, you never thought you'd have to come to the United States and fight as hard as you're in Colombia. | ||
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Exactly, exactly. | |
| Never in a million years. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| And I came here, you know, when I was young, long time ago. | ||
| Not that long ago. | ||
| Paola, you were Miss Columbia, right? | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
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That's correct. | |
| Not that long ago. | ||
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No, not that long ago. | |
| But you never envisioned, you thought the United States was just freedom. | ||
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No, I grew up in the middle of two drug cartels. | |
| It was horrible. | ||
| And I grew up with this fear of any time I can lose my life because the value of life of every human being, It doesn't have this value in Colombia. | ||
| So always I was thinking about going to another country. | ||
| And I saw United States, the American dream. | ||
| And I came here legally. | ||
| I came here and became citizen. | ||
| It was one of my proudest days in my life. | ||
| And then now I am defending children, defending freedom, defending what is normal, what it should be a normal rights given by God. | ||
| Why are you here at CPAC? | ||
| CPAC is the annual coming together of the conservative movement. | ||
| The whole theme here is Fire Nancy Pelosi, Save America. | ||
| This is a real focus on the run-up to the midterm elections that are in 95 days, and then the actions that are going to take place afterwards. | ||
| Why is Moms for Liberty here? | ||
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To see you. | |
| Great answer, great answer. | ||
| Because we enjoy being with people like you, with patrons, with the strong people who they try to shut you down and you keep stronger because you have beautiful values. | ||
| You know what is good and what is right and you are not going to backing up. | ||
| So you are a great example and an inspiration for us and for all the country. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You guys are an inspiration for me. | ||
| How do people, one of the things people want to know is how do they join? | ||
| You guys are really the leader or one of the leading groups in parental rights, right? | ||
| And you're trying to get chapters all over the country. | ||
| You're trying to get people to go and really stand for elections and school boards. | ||
| How do people get involved? | ||
| What is the easiest way to get into Moms4Liberty and to find out what you guys are all about? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| We have our website momsforliberty.org. | ||
| Here, there is a map. | ||
| You can find all the counties that have all the information about the education. | ||
| And you can either join a chapter, and if it's not a chapter in your area, you can become a leader in your area. | ||
| So somebody, if it's not a chapter, you can actually help. | ||
| You can start a chapter just as an individual. | ||
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Correct. | |
| And it's all the information's on there. | ||
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Yes, and it's great because we are giving the training to become a leader because, you know, so many people are always in a corner quietly seeing this war and afraid And it takes time, it takes courage to speak out. | |
| So I give you this opportunity that we all have. | ||
| This opportunity, if I can do it, came from my background and speaking my broken English. | ||
| If I can do it, you can do it in your home. | ||
| And you can start in your household also, talking to your children, but also unify and empower and educate other parents. | ||
| And together I think we can actually win the battle against indoctrination. | ||
| If we unite and if people focus on parental rights in schools. | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| Do you have a social media handle? | ||
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I am a true socialist, completely new. | |
| Hopefully you can join me and you can follow me. | ||
| What's your handle, a true socialist? | ||
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Cata Stube. | |
| C-A-T-A Stube. | ||
| And I am on Instagram. | ||
| I got banned on Twitter, so I closed my account long ago. | ||
| You've been banned on Twitter? | ||
| And actually, Monster Liberty was banned too, but they came back. | ||
| I had Tiffany on the day that you guys were banned. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Getting in more trouble. | ||
| Listen, it's great that you're here at CPAC. | ||
| I say this all the time. | ||
| Monster Liberty has had probably more impact than any new startup. | ||
| It's only been a year or two old. | ||
| We became like a new political party, right? | ||
| I keep saying that the path for victory for us as a movement and as a country and as a people is through those school boards. | ||
| And the parental rights movement is just incredible. | ||
| So thank you for coming. | ||
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We became like a new political party, right? | |
| We're influencing elections. | ||
| You've got a new pack, everything. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Catalina, thank you so much for coming. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| I'm so honored. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Be back here at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning. | ||
| We're going to be live at CPAC. | ||
| We're going to be wall-to-wall all day, and then we're going to do special coverage in the morning on Saturday morning for President Trump's For President. | ||
| Come on back here. | ||
| For President Trump. | ||
| President Trump. | ||
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President Trump. | |
| She used to be Miss Columbia, right? | ||
| She was a movie star. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We'll be back here at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning in the War Room. | ||
| Catalina, thank you so much. | ||
| Say hi to Tiffany. | ||
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Oh, thank you. | |
| Thank you. |
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