Aug. 5, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| And Donald Trump's Arizona sweep is complete as Carrie Lake wins the Republican nomination for governor, becoming the fourth election denier and Trump-endorsed candidate to win a major nomination in the state. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
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There's a whole lot of crazy right there. | |
| Election deniers, insurrectionists, weirdos, freaks. | ||
| You've got it all, really. | ||
| You've got a variety of candidates for the Republican Party in Arizona. | ||
| All of them extreme. | ||
| All of them insurrectionists. | ||
| All of them people who actually don't believe in American democracy. | ||
| They believe in their form of government where Well, you only recognize elections where your side wins. | ||
| And this is what folks on the far right have been working on for quite some time. | ||
| What this says about Trumpism and the future of the republic. | ||
| It's a precursor. | ||
| Those things are a precursor to what happened in Arizona. | ||
| I mean, you talk about... I've got to say, you... | ||
| Talk about extremes and I think the Arizona Republican Party the rank-and-file selected again the most extreme slate of candidates probably in modern American history for election deniers for people who despite All of the federal courts, all of the Trump appointees, all of the Trump Supreme Court justices, all of the Republicans up and down the line who have said that this election was legitimate. | ||
| All of the people who worked in the Trump administration who said this election was legitimate. | ||
| The Republican slate of candidates this fall, insurrectionists, freaks, weirdos, really, really extreme, the most extreme slate of candidates in American history. | ||
| Yeah, and some of those in Arizona, not just casual election deniers. | ||
| Mark Fincham, the nominee to be Secretary of State, was at the Capitol on January 6th. | ||
| He was at the Stop the Steal rally. | ||
| Carrie Lake, the nominee for governor, has adopted the language of election denial. | ||
| She was a different person, of course, a couple of years ago when she supported Barack Obama. | ||
| An Obama supporter. | ||
| Yeah, exactly, exactly. | ||
| But she now says, yes, I have evidence that the 2020 election was rigged, except I'm not going to share with you because you're in the fake news. | ||
| So she keeps saying she's got evidence but won't share it. | ||
| But that's sort of beside the point because now the four of them are on the doorstep. | ||
| They're one step away, one election away in Arizona from being in positions of real power where they could have, if they'd been in place in 2020, they could have done something to change the outcome of the 2020 election. | ||
| They could have flipped votes. | ||
| Draw a direct line to even some of the politicians we're seeing now in Arizona. | ||
| Carrie Lake just Cravenly lying about the contours of our democracy and how to behave in it if you want to be in a democracy. | ||
| Pushing lies, pushing conspiracy theories, hurting people. | ||
| Just loving, hurting people. | ||
| It is repulsive. | ||
| Because it's money. | ||
| Disgusting. | ||
| It's money and it wins votes for Hope and Change Kerry. | ||
| You know, Hope and Change Kerry decided to adopt Donald Trump's lies because Hope and Change Kerry got tired of being an Obama supporter and thought her best chance of getting elected would be to stop being Hope and Change Kerry and start being Stolen Election Kerry. | ||
| And you know, it worked in the primary process. | ||
| Insurrection carry. | ||
| But perhaps these lies. | ||
| Bill of Rights for rapists carry. | ||
| Perhaps these lies will be called out. | ||
| The stakes, Miki, could not be any higher. | ||
| It couldn't be any higher, especially in these races where you have election deniers who are running. | ||
| Is it an overstatement? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I guess our viewers can decide whether it's an overstatement to say that our form of American democracy is at risk if we start electing people who deny election results when their side loses. | ||
| That's where we are. | ||
| So you don't want to overstate it. | ||
| You don't want to be hyperbolic. | ||
| But it's dangerous. | ||
| But yeah, so much is at stake this fall. | ||
| When you have these people who are insurrectionists or who supported the insurrectionists or, you know, you've got the Republican gubernatorial candidate in Pennsylvania who showed up on January the 6th and, again, talks the language of insurrection, talks the language of election denial. | ||
| It's anti-democratic and it's un-American. | ||
| Okay, welcome. | ||
| We're live at CPAC. | ||
| You're in the war room. | ||
| We have the winner of the Republican primary, the Associated Press. | ||
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By the way, did the Arizona voters make the right choice? | |
| Oh my gosh, this is amazing. | ||
| First of all, Mika needs help, and she needs help fast. | ||
| I want to talk about the over-the-top rhetoric of MSNBC, because this is on the first morning. | ||
| You flew in the middle of the night. | ||
| The Associated Press just called this. | ||
| They just announced it, and you see the opening barrage. | ||
| of what they're going to do. | ||
| Not talking about issues, not talking about the state of Arizona, none of it. | ||
| It's Kerry Lake and all the negative stuff they said about you. | ||
| I want to give you a platform to particularly Mika and Joe. | ||
| Given your, what, 20, 25 years as a professional in this industry, what's your response? | ||
| I mean, I've never seen anything like that on TV. | ||
| I don't watch them, and I don't think most Americans do, because they are the ones who are unhinged. | ||
| Most Americans are out there actually trying to make ends meet. | ||
| Most Americans are out there trying to put food on the table for their kiddos. | ||
| Most Americans are out there trying to make sure their kids are safe and healthy. | ||
| And Mika, and what's her husband's name? | ||
| Why is she so triggered? | ||
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right now. By the way, shouldn't it be called Morning Mika? | |
| Why is it even, why is she subservient to Joe? She seems to do most of the talking, so maybe it should. She carries the load in the show, do you agree? I agree she does. Why is she so triggered by you? I think they're triggered because they have spent the last, what, seven years attacking President Trump and tearing him apart. | ||
| And they've done a pretty good job because they've turned many Americans against him, even though we should be for him because he brought all these great policies and helped our country so much. | ||
| And they're looking at me saying, oh my gosh, how can we tear her down? | ||
| It's going to be harder. | ||
| Because Americans are awake. | ||
| And, you know, go ahead, tear me down. | ||
| That's fine, Mika. | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| I don't care what you say because I care about Arizona. | ||
| And I'm in this. | ||
| I walked away from media because I'm in this to help save our state. | ||
| And they're going to have a real hard time tearing me down. | ||
| I don't even know who they were just describing when they were going off like that. | ||
| Because they obviously don't know me or what I'm about. | ||
| Carrie Lake stands for the people of Arizona, right? | ||
| Kerry Light's going to fight for Arizona, correct? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Hey, I'm only here because of the people of Arizona. | ||
| Let's talk about that. | ||
| $30 million. | ||
| I think your opponent spent, I don't know, $18 or $20 of her own money. | ||
| I heard outside groups in for another $8 or $10. | ||
| $30 million and really nothing about policy or issues. | ||
| All the politics of personal destruction. | ||
| You were able, from the deplorables and from the Trump movement and MAGA, Great, but three, three and a half million dollars. | ||
| You're outspent ten to one. | ||
| All the politics of personal destruction. | ||
| What would you like to say to the mainstream media about how you've come through that and what you've learned about the people of Arizona and yourself? | ||
| What I've learned is that I don't think, A, you can buy an election anymore because too many people are awake. | ||
| They know what's going on. | ||
| And we are going to be leading Arizona into its best days ahead and we don't care if the media is attacking us because they're not watching them, Steve. | ||
| I mean, I got here. | ||
| I got to this moment with the help of the people and with the help of alternative media like Steve Bannon in the War Room. | ||
| Fox didn't have me on. | ||
| They finally had me on in the last month of this and it was for a hit piece. | ||
| But they had you on for a gotcha interview, which you showed how professional you were because you turned the tables back on them. | ||
| So we got here with podcasts. | ||
| Fox News has not had you, only had you on one time in the last seven months? | ||
| On prime time. | ||
| God bless Maria. | ||
| She's had me on a couple times on her Sunday morning show. | ||
| And we've reached out to all of them. | ||
| Said, hey, we want to come on, talk about our issues. | ||
| We're number one in the polls. | ||
| We've been number one since day one. | ||
| By the way, the historic nature of this, as they continue to count the votes, is that you've won every county in Arizona. | ||
| Is that going to be official now? | ||
| Yes, we won 15 counties. | ||
| But what's so cool about it, Maricopa County is, of course, the big county. | ||
| And it gets all the attention. | ||
| And so the rest of Arizona has been left out. | ||
| Feeling left out. | ||
| They have been left out. | ||
| And we went all over this state and we won. | ||
| We won. | ||
| We were declared the winner when we looked at our numbers, obviously, without winning Maricopa County. | ||
| Now since the votes are finally being counted in Maricopa County, I think we're going to win that really well. | ||
| I believe we will win by 8 to 10 points by the time it's all said and done. | ||
| Do you think you're projecting an 8 to 10 point victory? | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| These numbers are going for us in a big way. | ||
| This is what you have to walk people through. | ||
| With literally almost no money. | ||
| No media, because people don't understand, the mainstream media in Phoenix and in Arizona really wouldn't cover you anyway, unless it was a hit piece. | ||
| Unless it was a hit piece. | ||
| The Republic, the big newspaper, really, if you submitted a couple of op-eds, they wouldn't do, correct? | ||
| They wouldn't take our op-ed with our amazing policy to secure the border unless we removed the word, invasion. | ||
| And I said, we're not going to remove the word invasion because that's what it is. | ||
| You said it was an invasion and they came back on a thought piece of yours and said you have to remove a word? | ||
| Yeah, it would not air in their paper unless we took the word invasion out. | ||
| Isn't that amazing? | ||
| This is why it's known as the Arizona Repugnant, not the Arizona Republic. | ||
| Was it travel and state? | ||
| I mean, how did you win a sweeping victory? | ||
| Outspent 10-1 with no legacy media coverage versus that free media you need. | ||
| How did you do it? | ||
| We just started campaigning across the state. | ||
| When I ran for office, the people asked me to run. | ||
| I didn't even know how to run for office. | ||
| I called the Arizona Republican office, AZGOP, and I said, how do you run for office? | ||
| True story. | ||
| And we cobbled together a team. | ||
| I have friends who I've known for decades involved in the team, people from church. | ||
| I mean, we literally brought in a group of outsiders to politics and said, we're going to save Arizona. | ||
| Everybody new to the game. | ||
| My opponent, who already is married to a billionaire, God bless her, I mean, good for her, they hired up all of the fundraisers so we had no fundraisers. | ||
| And they figured they would prevent us from being able to even get started. | ||
| So I said, forget it. | ||
| We don't worry about the fundraisers. | ||
| Let's go campaign across the state. | ||
| What did President Trump see in you, since you're from the media, but you're new to this, you've got a team that's relatively inexperienced, although real fighters. | ||
| What did Trump see in you, and particularly early on, that led to the endorsement? | ||
| Well it was about a year ago that he came to town. | ||
| We had an election integrity rally that Turning Point Action put on and all of the candidates were invited to speak. | ||
| All of the Republican candidates were invited to speak and we all spoke and I got a rousing ovation and the crowd was just really warm and welcoming to me because they've known me for 27 years as I've covered Arizona. | ||
| Then when the president showed up And introduced each and every one of us. | ||
| I mean the doors just kind of blew off the place when he said my name. | ||
| And I think at that moment the president went... | ||
| Something's going on here. | ||
| Who is this? | ||
| Even though I interviewed him. | ||
| It was caught on media too. | ||
| He goes, wow. | ||
| Remember he kind of stepped back. | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
| He did. | ||
| He stepped back. | ||
| He let the applause go on. | ||
| And I heard from one of his people that he walked off the stage and said, who is that Kerry Lake? | ||
| But I had interviewed him twice as a journalist. | ||
| He gave me two exclusive interviews because he knew he could trust me. | ||
| I wasn't out to get him. | ||
| I was out to be fair with him. | ||
| And I think that's all we want is just parity. | ||
| What was the decision to leave media and actually get into politics? | ||
| That's a huge step. | ||
| Particularly, you were at the top of your game. | ||
| Phoenix is one of the most important media markets in the country. | ||
| You were the top star. | ||
| Why would you walk away from something like that to get into, as you've seen, the politics of personal destruction? | ||
| Oh, it is bad, isn't it? | ||
| It is the swamp. | ||
| The swamp is the perfect way to describe it, as President Trump called it. | ||
| You know, during COVID, I think a lot of us had a big wake-up call. | ||
| And we said, what's really going on here? | ||
| We're watching Fauci try to destroy our lives. | ||
| We're watching our governors try to destroy our lives and our businesses. | ||
| We're watching our kids get masked. | ||
| And we're not getting the straight scoop. | ||
| You know, I've got a good BS meter. | ||
| I'm from the Midwest. | ||
| I was born with that. | ||
| And it just wasn't making sense. | ||
| Iowa, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| An Iowa farm girl. | ||
| I'm from Iowa. | ||
| Not a farm girl, but I grew up in the country near farmers. | ||
| And, you know, like everybody else, it just wasn't making sense. | ||
| There was no interest by the media to do stories on early treatments that might help to get, you know, our elderly parents out of their homes so they can interact again with family. | ||
| And I just started to realize that the media was trying to divide people and trying to make the situation worse rather than better. | ||
| Did that disturb you when you saw that early call? | ||
| and no interest in that. | ||
| Did that disturb you when you saw that early call? | ||
| I was on the air when I when someone got my ear and said Fox just called it. | ||
| I said, whoa, what the heck's going on? | ||
| And you as knowing Arizona, you knew that that was an early call. | ||
| It was really early. | ||
| People were still in line voting. | ||
| And it's funny, they couldn't call my race, even though we knew we were going to win. | ||
| We had all the stats. | ||
| If you looked at stats and numbers, you knew we were going to win. | ||
| But they waited and waited and waited to call our race. | ||
| But they were very quick to call the race against President Trump. | ||
| Can you hold through the break when we get to the next segment? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Can we have a round for Kerry Lanker to go off? | ||
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Kerry Lake, the winner in the Republican primary, historic. | |
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back in the war room in just a moment. | ||
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If you are over, cause we're taking down the CCP. | |
| Spread the word all through Hong Kong, we will fight till they're all gone. | ||
| We rejoice when there's no more, let's take down the CCP. | ||
| We are, we are live. We are live. | ||
| We are live at CPAC. | ||
| We've got the winner of the Arizona primary for governor, Kerry Lake, the Republican nominee for governor in Arizona. | ||
| Kerry, tough fight, tough fight. | ||
| Walk us through any closing thoughts on what you just went through because we've got to start looking forward. | ||
| Talk to us about anything, about the team, President Trump, the people of Arizona, what you learned about yourself. | ||
| I'm tougher than I even thought. | ||
| And I'm tough. | ||
| But I had a great team. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
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You are very tough. | |
| I grew up, I'm the youngest of nine children. | ||
| We grew up, we didn't have a lot as far as means, but we had love and my parents taught us how to work hard. | ||
| We had to work for everything. | ||
| And that's the kind of work ethic I brought to this. | ||
| I don't think there was anybody in this country Who worked as hard as we did and our team. | ||
| We crisscrossed the state. | ||
| I started doing four and five events a day or meetings and, you know, in-home meetings, that kind of thing, where we gather people together like this. | ||
| And I thought that was normal. | ||
| Someone said, Carrie, that's what you do in the last week. | ||
| So we just kept that momentum and we kept that energy the entire time. | ||
| A team of people who love Arizona. | ||
| This is not my victory. | ||
| It is Arizona's victory. | ||
| This is truly, the Republican Party is the party of we, the people. | ||
| Going forward, we, the people, are the Republican Party, and I welcome any Democrat or Independent who's tired of what's going on in this world, who's tired of the high gas prices, who is struggling to make ends meet, who's worried about crime, who wants to see our borders secure, and who doesn't want their kids getting their hands on fentanyl. | ||
| I welcome you in to this Republican Party. | ||
| We want your vote, but more importantly, we want your support as we move forward to save Arizona. | ||
| And I think when we save Arizona, we save our republic. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Talk to me about, as Governor Lake, what are the two or three things that are top of your priority? | ||
| What do you feel has to happen to take Arizona to the next level? | ||
| For starters, we have to secure that border. | ||
| We have completely let it go. | ||
| Joe Biden obviously came in and tore back a wonderful policy that President Trump had in place. | ||
| And we need to get back to that kind of a policy on the border. | ||
| We're going to finish President Trump's wall on day one. | ||
| We're going to call it what it is. | ||
| We're issuing a declaration of invasion. | ||
| We're going to get our airs on the National Guard. | ||
| You're going to stick with invasion. | ||
| You're not backing off at all. | ||
| You're saying, hey, as a governor, it's an invasion. | ||
| I'm going to stop it. | ||
| You're not going to happy talk this. | ||
| We've got to call it what it is. | ||
| We've got to call it what it is. | ||
| Look at the video. | ||
| Go to the border. | ||
| I encourage you. | ||
| Take a look at what's happening on our border. | ||
| We're compassionate people. | ||
| We can't take on the world's poor and the world's troubles. | ||
| We have to start taking on and caring for the people of Arizona and this country. | ||
| So we're going to take on our border and we're going to secure it. | ||
| We're going to do a reform of our elections because we just saw this last few days what's going on. | ||
| People in Pinelle County, Arizona showed up to vote one hour into the polls being open. | ||
| They were out of Republican ballots. | ||
| And they were turned away, many of them. | ||
| How could that possibly happen? | ||
| Particularly, this was not like, it didn't sneak up on Arizona. | ||
| This was in the world media, all over the world, BBC, NHK, The Times of London, The Guardian, The Financial Times. | ||
| Everybody focused on the election in Arizona. | ||
| How did Katie Hobbs and the election officials of that state, how did it all collapse? | ||
| Just complete incompetence. | ||
| I mean, we've seen it before. | ||
| This isn't the first election that was botched and full of issues. | ||
| And we're going to deal with those issues. | ||
| Democrats want this. | ||
| Independents want it. | ||
| And so do Republicans. | ||
| If you look at polling on what people care about, they care about our elections. | ||
| And this is everybody. | ||
| Nobody wants to show up at the polling place and be told there's no ballots for you. | ||
| By the way, whether you're Democrat, Independent, or Republican, it doesn't matter, right? | ||
| It's got to be right for everybody. | ||
| A lot of the Independents were turned away. | ||
| They wanted the Republican ballot. | ||
| They ran out of Republican ballots one hour into voting on Election Day. | ||
| So we just need to make sure. | ||
| And Governor Lake, you're going to change it with Fincham. | ||
| Your team is going to change that. | ||
| We're going to do it. | ||
| And, you know, this is why America First candidates won. | ||
| We're talking about the issues that Arizona cares about. | ||
| I'm out there every day talking to Arizonans. | ||
| Mika is not out there talking to Arizonans, and she's probably not talking to many Americans. | ||
| I know the issues that people are worried about and concerned about, and we can solve these problems. | ||
| America First, America First policies will help us get through these problems. | ||
| We saw it with President Trump. | ||
| And I want to send, I don't know if he's watching, but a big thank you to President Trump. | ||
| He supported me early. | ||
| He endorsed me early. | ||
| People love President Trump. | ||
| We miss him and we miss his policies most of all. | ||
| And so it's his policies that we were riding high. | ||
| Remember just a few years ago? | ||
| We were right in time. | ||
| In 19, the best economy we ever had, particularly working class people, Hispanics. | ||
| The Hispanic community seems to be quickly coming over to the Republican Party, to MAGA, to these policies that have worked for them. | ||
| How does that play into your border security? | ||
| It seems to me the Hispanic working class, particularly in Arizona, this is something that protects them. | ||
| This is something to make sure we're not flooded with low-cost labor. | ||
| So walk us through, what's your reach out to the Hispanic community? | ||
| First of all, the Republican Party is such a natural fit for the Latino community because they're all about faith, family, hard work, entrepreneurship. | ||
| When we have a healthy economy and we have a safe state, it's good for all Arizonans. | ||
| I don't care what your background is. | ||
| And that's why they like our policies. | ||
| That's why they like President Trump's policies. | ||
| And we're going to continue along those lines. | ||
| When we have a state where your business is healthy, where your children are healthy, where you can have your church open, where you can have your business open without the government interfering, then we're in a better place. | ||
| And I think we're going to see more and more people who are Hispanic coming over to the Republican Party. | ||
| We've already been seeing that. | ||
| We were winning in polling with every group of people. | ||
| We were winning in polling. | ||
| They want what America first has to offer. | ||
| When you talked on the campaign trail, one thing I noticed, you make the family the center of your policies, right? | ||
| Walk us through that, and particularly the degree that your faith has helped you focus on that and make it a centerpiece of your policies. | ||
| Well, I'm truly here because of God. | ||
| I mean, when I walked away from my career, I was afraid. | ||
| I walked away from a massive paycheck, everything I knew, and I really said to God, I am handing my life completely, 100% over to you. | ||
| So you prayed about this a lot before you made that move? | ||
| It was, I was, I was afraid. | ||
| I mean, can you imagine walking away from everything into the great unknown? | ||
| How will we feed our family? | ||
| And I'm telling you, when you turn your life over to God... Did you have an inkling of how nasty and brutal personally was going to be when you were trying to thinking about that and praying? | ||
| No, I didn't think the media would be so awful. | ||
| I mean, I worked in the media. | ||
| I figured that they might cover this as a pretty cool story. | ||
| Wow, somebody walks away and look it, they're not part of the political scene and they get into politics. | ||
| And we were up against some behemoths. | ||
| We were up against the McCain consultants, high-priced McCain consultants with 30 and 40 years of experience in their firm and we beat them. | ||
| Their heads are still spinning in how we did it. | ||
| But again, it's worth the fight. | ||
| If we can't handle a few hits and punches, then who are we? | ||
| This is the time to stand up. | ||
| This is the time to step forward, speak out, and we have to stop caring what The media and the radicals on the left say about us, if we get so worried about that, we'll lose our country. | ||
| And I think the moms and dads of the world are stepping up and saying, not so fast. | ||
| We must leave a better country for our kids. | ||
| You have the border issue. | ||
| You have the families. | ||
| Talk about the economy, particularly talk about the economy to the middle class and the working class in Arizona. | ||
| A governor late. | ||
| What are you going to do to thwart what Biden has done and his regime has done to the American economy? | ||
| It's going to be hard because inflation is going up at such a fast clip right now. | ||
| But we're going to do everything we can to lower taxes, you know, sales tax, property tax, anything we can do there. | ||
| But again, we're in for a tough road when we put people like Biden in office. | ||
| It is destructive to every economy. | ||
| It's destructive to every family. | ||
| So we're going to work to bring down taxes and fees and anything we can to help in any way possible. | ||
| And then just create a really good environment for jobs and a really good environment for business. | ||
| We have a lot of jobs in Arizona. | ||
| We just need to get people trained for those jobs. | ||
| And that's why our education policy calls for a dual track education. | ||
| After 10th grade, you decide if you want to take the college route or if you want to get training right there in high school. | ||
| Let's talk about that. | ||
| You don't need to go to college. | ||
| I mean, under President Trump in 19, blue-collar workers did white-collar work as far as wage growth. | ||
| Non-college graduates were higher than college graduates. | ||
| That's the Trump economy. | ||
| Do you think you can help rebuild that in Arizona? | ||
| We're going to. | ||
| We're going to. | ||
| And it has to start with our education. | ||
| The purpose of educating our kids is to prepare them for the future and for the jobs that are out there so that they can be self-sufficient. | ||
| And we're not doing a good job of that, but we're going to start doing a good job. | ||
| And that's after 10th grade. | ||
| Kids can decide if they want to go and get trade skill training, if they want to get certification. | ||
| Vocational skills so that right out of high school they're ready for these jobs. | ||
| High paying jobs. | ||
| I was at Vail School District in Southern Arizona. | ||
| They have a welding program. | ||
| They have culinary arts. | ||
| They're doing this in the high school. | ||
| Work it with your hands right now. | ||
| You can really punch your ticket. | ||
| Every kid in their welding program has a job offer when they graduate high school, making between $70,000 and $100,000 with full benefits, and they have zero college debt. | ||
| That is what we need to do to get our economy going and to help people with Joe Biden's economy. | ||
| When you talk about these people, you talk about working class people, the scourge of fentanyl, opioids, drugs, what is Governor Lake going to do about that? | ||
| Well, we're going to secure the border and take on the cartels. | ||
| And they're going to know that cartels are not welcome. | ||
| They're not running the show in Arizona anymore. | ||
| They're going to have to find access through another state. | ||
| And eventually, these other states will get the message that you have to be tough on the border. | ||
| We have to push back against these narco-terrorists. | ||
| It's exactly what they are. | ||
| This is a weapon of mass destruction. | ||
| It's killing more than 100,000 people a year. | ||
| And these are young people. | ||
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And we're not going to allow Arizona— And you're committed to stop that? | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| I just talked to a dad about a week and a half ago. | ||
| His 17-year-old son died, took a pill that was laced with fentanyl. | ||
| And we can't lose our young people. | ||
| We can't lose them to this poisoning that's happening. | ||
| Your grassroots campaign, give people how they now find out on your run, actually, for the governorship, and then Mika and the MSNBC crew can have an easy time following you. | ||
| Mika, if you want to see where I stand on the issues, because that's what this is about, issues, we want to solve problems for Americans, go to my website, karilake.com, K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E dot com, and if you want to make a donation while you're there, Mika or anybody else, I would appreciate it. | ||
| We had a brutal primary. | ||
| We spent a lot of money and we could use some help replenishing the coffers. | ||
| Gary Lake. | ||
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Thank you so much. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. Oh my gosh. Thank you to the war room. | ||
| You guys are doing so much for this country. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You are. | ||
| You've just done an amazing job. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| It's going to be a grassroots campaign. | ||
| It starts right here, right now. | ||
| Carrie Lake's the nominee. | ||
| Forward to 8 November. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
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We have one more shout out for Carrie. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| We're live at CPAC. | ||
| We've been able to Shanghai the morning crowd. | ||
| We've got Ed Henry over here. | ||
| Ed, hang on one second. | ||
| Jane, give us some award-winning posse, folks. | ||
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CPAC is one of the best organizations. | |
| I got my introduction into politics in the 7th District of Virginia and that's where I met Mercedes and they do great work. | ||
| They recruit young people and CPAC is a great organization with all the right values. | ||
| Corey, what about you? | ||
| What's bringing you to CPAC today? | ||
| Man, look at this group. | ||
| Look at these people. | ||
| This is awesome. | ||
| We got Kerry Lake, the new governor of Arizona. | ||
| Kerry Lake just stopped by. | ||
| Mr. Steve Bannon, greatest in the world. | ||
| We love you guys. | ||
| Without you guys, we wouldn't be here. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| Shane, hang on for a second. | ||
| I'm going to go back to Ed and then we'll come right back to Laura and Posse. | ||
| Thank you guys. | ||
| Good to see you. | ||
| Okay, walk through. | ||
| We just had Carrie Lake here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You've been doing this for a long time. | ||
| Put in perspective this Arizona situation. | ||
| We started with a five-minute cold open for mourning Mika. | ||
| Dude, it was so over the top. | ||
| I mean, that's what I told Carrie coming down here. | ||
| I was like, we're going to show you this. | ||
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Listen, are they freaking out? | |
| It's a full meltdown. | ||
| You know, they called her a, I think they called her a bill of rights. | ||
| Mika said you're a bill of rights rapist, right? | ||
| And that was not even the worst. | ||
| They go on, these are all insurrectionists, this shows you the country's going in the wrong direction. | ||
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Because Carrie Lake has guts, and she tells it like it is. | |
| And I was in the mainstream media for a long time, but now at Real America's Voice, I got a new perspective on things. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
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I was off the field for a little while, and I watched, and it was embarrassing to watch my colleagues at Fox and elsewhere, old colleagues, the way they were sycophantic towards the mainstream, Fox trying to cozy up to Biden, You saw that. | |
| But hang on a second. | ||
| I want to go back to that. | ||
| That's what they tried to do. | ||
| You saw that. | ||
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I saw that from the outside. | |
| I was fired by Fox before that. | ||
| But hang on a second. | ||
| I want to go back to that. | ||
| Talk to me about that call on that night. | ||
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Who was running the decision desk? | |
| Bill Salmon, who was a never-Trumper, right? | ||
| He was a news head in Washington. | ||
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In Washington, he ran the decision desk with Arnon, who was like a Hillary Clinton guy, right? | |
| Everyone can look this up. | ||
| And then beyond that, Chris Steierwald, who testified one of the first days at the January 6 hearings. | ||
| I like him personally, like Bill Sanford, but Chris Steierwald, never a Trumper. | ||
| Couldn't stand Trump. | ||
| When I was behind the scenes at Fox in the early part of 2020, Yeah. | ||
| How about what? | ||
| You were like the White House correspondent, right? | ||
| the top, the CEO, said to people very close to her, we have to find a way out of this. | ||
| We're not following the tweets anymore. | ||
| We can't stand this guy. | ||
| We're moving away from Trump. | ||
| I was fired in July 2020, but in the summer... | ||
| You were like the White House correspondent. | ||
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White House, and then I was anchoring. | |
| And then when I saw on election night was that they hand-bred bear this thing saying we're calling Arizona, Cary Lakes home state. | ||
| Nobody was calling Arizona. | ||
| CNN didn't call it for like two weeks. | ||
| How is that possible? | ||
| Have you been in the war room literally and figured it out? | ||
| How does Fox call? | ||
| We were doing live broadcast and we actually had Richard Barris, we had the numbers everywhere and I go, where are they getting that number from? | ||
| What do you think happened? | ||
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What I think happened is that the Murdochs saw an opportunity to off Trump. | |
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Arizona, we call Arizona early. | ||
| Everyone else goes on board. | ||
| Biden is going to win. | ||
| Trump can't win without Arizona, right? | ||
| And he can't step up to the mic and say, I won. | ||
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And he can't declare victory because Fox cut him off at the knees. | |
| Now, then January 6th happened. | ||
| Fox goes all in on insurrection, right? | ||
| In between that, by the way, I would say, after the election, when they tried to off Trump, Fox's ratings went like this. | ||
| Drop. | ||
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Newsmax, Real America's Voice, people are rising. | |
| What do they do? | ||
| They put Rudy on. | ||
| They put Sidney Powell and say, there's fraud, which they weren't telling their viewers about on the run-up or right after. | ||
| But when the ratings went down, they went all in on the fraud. | ||
| Panicked. | ||
| Panicked. | ||
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You saw it. | |
| They panicked. | ||
| Then their ratings went back up. | ||
| It stabilized, right? | ||
| So then fast forward to January 6th, they see another opportunity to off Trump. | ||
| I don't have, you know the name, reporters, anchors, this is the worst day in America. | ||
| Fast forward to January 6th hearings, you had Brett Baier and others saying this is worse than Watergate. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Right, you saw it, these are facts. | |
| Unbelievable. | ||
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Okay, now fast forward to this past weekend. | |
| By the way, with hearsay evidence. | ||
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Right, and then last weekend New York Times says Fox won't put Trump on anymore. | |
| He hadn't done an interview in over 100 days. | ||
| So what did Tucker do? | ||
| I think Tucker... Hang on a second. | ||
| I want to go to that for a second. | ||
| Trump comes back to DC for the first time. | ||
| He's got this new think tank and he comes and he literally gives one of the toughest, hardest speeches I've ever heard from Trump and I've heard them all. | ||
| Right? | ||
| This chaos in the cities. | ||
| Not one second of coverage on Fox. | ||
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Fox did not take it live, but you know who they took live? | |
| Mike Pence. | ||
| Same day. | ||
| 17 minutes. | ||
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Why? | |
| Why? | ||
| Of bromides. | ||
| It was bromides. | ||
| Not just that, correct me if I'm wrong, I think they went through the break, which is a mortal sin at Fox. | ||
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You gotta make money. | |
| You gotta do the breaks. | ||
| You do the breaks. | ||
| You don't blow a break at Fox, right? | ||
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That's all it's about is ratings and money at Fox. | |
| That's it. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
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And I filed a lawsuit against them and we'll work it out and we'll win in the end. | |
| Truth will prevail. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| What's the difference between Fox under Roger Ailes and Fox today? | ||
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It's night and day because from Suzanne Scott on down, there's no vision on news. | |
| They're like, let's follow the ball where it's going. | ||
| There's no forward looking because you and I were talking on the morning show. | ||
| In the old Fox, they would have covered Carrie Lake. | ||
| Instead, they were ignoring Carrie Lake and she did not exist. | ||
| She's a Republican. | ||
| Why wasn't Fox giving her a fair hearing? | ||
| And you can ask her tough questions, by the way. | ||
| By the way, in its news, It's news that she's running a grassroots campaign. | ||
| Blake Massey's wasn't on that much. | ||
| So then they want to ignore everyone Trump endorses. | ||
| I bet, other than Tucker, J.D. Vance wasn't on Fox much either during those primaries, right? | ||
| You had Vance on, Tucker had him on. | ||
| Blake Massey wasn't on that much. | ||
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So why is this? Why not cover everybody fairly? | |
| Like, fair and balanced. That's what Fox was built on. | ||
| So what do you predict? | ||
| Now we're in these tough... | ||
| You've got Tudor Dixon from formerly Real America's Voice, a rising rock star. | ||
| You have Carrie Lake. | ||
| You have some of the most presentable people that can reach out. | ||
| They're talking about policies that two-thirds of the American people. | ||
| What happens, do you think, in the campaign? | ||
| And then talk to me about what you think the mainstream media covers. | ||
| You saw Morning Meek this morning. | ||
| It's pure character assassination. | ||
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Because they're worried. | |
| That some of these candidates, like Carrie Lake, will actually win in the general election. | ||
| Because, as you say, Carrie Lake's position is not just where mainstream America is, it's where the darn Biden administration is now on the border. | ||
| They've ignored the border for over a year and a half. | ||
| And Steve, explain this to me. | ||
| You're inside the White House. | ||
| They said that building the wall was racist. | ||
| And now they're building a wall in California and Arizona. | ||
| How many more states are they going to build a wall in? | ||
| And if I sound crazy, you know what? | ||
| I'm sick and tired of the BS I see in the mainstream media. | ||
| They said the wall was racist, okay? | ||
| Now if Biden builds it, Jean-Pierre says at the podium, That's a quote. | ||
| trying to save lives. | ||
| Wasn't that what, that's what she said. | ||
| That's a quote, right? | ||
| Okay, so Trump was crazy when he came down the escalator, but now the wall is the greatest idea ever because it is an invasion as you said. | ||
| And they understand the polling's going against them on this. | ||
| Every American understands. | ||
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Yeah, and Biden's a disaster and the whole Democratic Party is running from him, but they're scared and Fox doesn't know what to do as well, getting back to them, because they helped prop up Biden and say he's the winner, right? | |
| And everyone knows Biden's out to lunch. | ||
| I've covered, I don't know, five, six presidents. | ||
| The guy's incoherent. | ||
| Let's call it what it is. | ||
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But Kabul is worse! | |
| Let's talk about that. | ||
| You've been in that, people don't realize, that press room is very small. | ||
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Yeah, I covered it ten years. | |
| Very cramped. | ||
| You've been in there. | ||
| Give me your assessment of how they handle the media from that podium. | ||
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Circlebox Zaki was all over the map, and I thought it would never get worse than that. | |
| And now Jean-Pierre just doesn't answer anything. | ||
| We're doing the work, is her line a lot of times. | ||
| And work on what? | ||
| She said that the overturning... She's got the big book. | ||
| Big binder! | ||
| They got the big, beautiful binder, as Trump might say. | ||
| And there's nothing in that binder. | ||
| I call it, by the way, on Getter, I call it the Zen Master because you ask her a question and it comes back with like the sound of one hand clapping. | ||
| It's totally unrelated to anything dealing with the question itself. | ||
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Steve, they said six, eight months ago that there was no supply chain crisis. | |
| That was a lie. | ||
| They said they solved the baby formula crisis. | ||
| There's moms all in every state in this country going on local news. | ||
| Democrat, Republican, Independent saying they can't get baby formula. | ||
| This is America and moms can't feed their kids. | ||
| I mean I'm not trying to be dramatic. | ||
| This is insanity. | ||
| And the meeting, how do you say the gross incompetence, gross incompetence. | ||
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And when you ask about the White House press room, I think Peter Doocy is doing a great I'm not just here to... Peter Doocy is challenging, but I think he's doing a great job. | |
| Where are the other people? | ||
| Hello? | ||
| Are you awake? | ||
| I mean, why are they not asking every day? | ||
| Okay, let me read back what the president said yesterday. | ||
| Does that make any sense? | ||
| He's incoherent. | ||
| I mean, why is it? | ||
| That's not... I know that someone's going to write this up and say that I'm saying he's seen a... Well, he is! | ||
| They were trying to say about Trump, you know, he's got to take this mental aptitude test because they said he was crazy. | ||
| Hey, look, Trump did what he did. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He can defend his statements, but you're going to tell me that Biden is all there. | ||
| Where's the tests on him? | ||
| I covered this place for 10 years. | ||
| How is anybody looking a job? | ||
| You have a straight face and say, oh yeah, he's all there. | ||
| Comparative way, the attack every day, Trump would come in that room and they'd be jumping up and down, or they'd be jumping on Sarah Huckabee. | ||
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The latest Trump tweet, they would be, they're standing upside down. | |
| You were there in the White House. | ||
| What is Trump doing now? | ||
| Our hair's on fire! | ||
| And with Biden, he doesn't, he loses his train of thought on everything. | ||
| How do you take any of that seriously? | ||
| Not say, seriously, is the doctor coming in today? | ||
| Are you going to Walter Reed? | ||
| Hold it, hold it. | ||
| Do you believe that Admiral Kirby is now over there? | ||
| Do you see Kirby taking over? | ||
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There's no doubt that they're bringing in adult supervision. | |
| It's not just Kirby. | ||
| So they bring in Kirby for them? | ||
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So John Muir's there, and if it's anything foreign policy, hey, Kirby, get over here, because Kirby, I've worked with him, he's a smart guy. | |
| He's a pro, right? | ||
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He's a pro. | |
| And then on the economy, they've got three or four people. | ||
| Healthcare, we've got six experts. | ||
| Because she can't, she's going through that binder and doesn't know what she's talking about. | ||
| You know, I mean, these are facts. | ||
| You covered it. | ||
| Why is Fauci not rolled out as much as he used to be? | ||
| From a media perspective, you think that people are onto him now? | ||
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He was doing 30 interviews a day! | |
| I think they realized that even he, they made him St. | ||
| Fauci, literally. | ||
| They were doing candles at churches for him. | ||
| St. | ||
| Fauci. | ||
| And after a while, the guy was on this side, that side, this side. | ||
| The mandates have all, everyone's turned on. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| The mandates still exist in some places. | ||
| We have viewers contacting us. | ||
| Biden still has the emergency order out. | ||
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And the judge in Florida said the mandates no longer stand, but they're still pushing them. | |
| I know people who contact us who watch Real America's Voice whose spouses lost their jobs because they would not get the job. | ||
| And now that's coming back to armed people. | ||
| Let's walk through. | ||
| We've got about, what, 94, 95 days to Election Day. | ||
| Walk us through. | ||
| How do you think this thing evolves over the next couple of months? | ||
| You've got a bunch of Trump insurgents. | ||
| You've got the Republican establishment still obviously sore from losing this. | ||
| You've got to bring that on board. | ||
| You've got a couple of obvious disasters already in Pennsylvania with Dr. Oz and some others. | ||
| Walk us through the Henry's effect. | ||
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Well, because I want to be honest in my reporting as always, which is that I'm saying some of the Trump side of this and the disaster for Biden and Carrie Lake, I think is a positive in the sense that I think she's a strong candidate. | |
| And a Tudor Dixon. | ||
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Right, and a Tudor in Michigan. | |
| But not all these Trump endorsed candidates are all there. | ||
| Are great. | ||
| And he's going to lose some of these in the general. | ||
| And I know some people will be pissed at me. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| What do they have to do? | ||
| He's running a campaign for Senate in Pennsylvania from a home in New Jersey. | ||
| Does that make any sense? | ||
| He's running against Fetterman who had a stroke. | ||
| How is he winning? | ||
| Is Fetterman, I mean, Fetterman is like Weekend at Bernie's, but it seems to be Bernie. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| What do those candidates have to do first off to galvanize the Trump movement and then move forward and try to make their message broader? | ||
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It's forget about the BS, forget about the noise, Morning Mika, and the rest of it, and do the bread and butter issues that you and Donald Trump have. | |
| It's the border. | ||
| It's the darn economy. | ||
| This is what people care about. | ||
| It's what, what did you say? | ||
| Parents. | ||
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And parents' rights. | |
| Think about Youngkin. | ||
| Parents' rights. | ||
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And I think that, I remember saying at the time in that off-year election, that I bet, having covered this a long time, that Republicans, the establishment, some of the rhinos, will walk away from the parents' rights issue. | |
| Youngkin won on it in Virginia. | ||
| But then everyone gets distracted and chases the soccer ball to something else. | ||
| Go back to the parents, as this lady said, because they're trying to jam transgender. | ||
| They're trying to jam critical race. | ||
| A radical ideology. | ||
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Radical ideas, number one. | |
| But number two, then you've got Ray, who we talked about it this morning earlier in American Sunrise, he's testifying as the FBI director. | ||
| And these guys are treating, the FBI is treating parents. | ||
| I'm going to get all over the laptop from hell as soon as we get rid of the domestic Domestic terrorists. | ||
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Parents are domestic terrorists, right? | |
| Merrick Garland wants to throw him in jail. | ||
| What is he doing on Hunter Biden, as you say? | ||
| So, this woman's right. | ||
| If the Republicans talk about the economy, the border, and parents' rights, they can't lose. | ||
| The audience is always right. | ||
| Real quickly, how do people get to the show on social media? | ||
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American Sunrise. | |
| Go get the app. | ||
| Real America's Voice in the Apple Store. | ||
| We're on Roku every morning. | ||
| We're on Apple TV. | ||
| Dish Network if you have that. | ||
| Follow me on Getter True Social. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| American Sunrise. | ||
| And that was Trump and I at the border in about 2019 near San Diego. | ||
| And he built that thing and they all laughed at him. | ||
| They called him a racist. | ||
| And he was right. | ||
| We have a segment on the show. | ||
| Trump was right. | ||
| He was right about the border. | ||
| And even now Biden is admitting it. | ||
| Okay, this is the great lead-in, the upbeat, sunny, but realistic lead-in for the Dark Spectre comes. | ||
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| We're at CPAC Live, the War Room. | ||
| Okay, Jane, what do we got here? | ||
| By Jean. | ||
| Now, Jean, can you tell us what you think of Media Matters? | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I think that's George Soros' outfit, and I think he's heavily involved in our elections, and that he spent a lot of money buying off district attorneys. | ||
| By the way, Media Matters picked, selected her yesterday to poke fun at her for her beautiful, her... Did they? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| You were on Media Matters. | ||
| They tweeted out, oh, they brought a colored graph paper. | ||
| Yes, that's what we had you on. | ||
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Can you show us more of your signs? | |
| Show that camera right there what your signs say. | ||
| These are Steve's slogans. | ||
| Some of them. | ||
| Coming in hot. | ||
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The pom-poms. | |
| Oh, they got their pom-poms on. | ||
| So we're the pom-poms section. | ||
| That's for you, George Soros. | ||
| And then we've got Hawaiian War Room Posse. | ||
| That's for you. | ||
| George Soros cannot beat the American people. | ||
| You're going to have to outwork them. | ||
| You're going to have to outvote the fraud and outvote the money, right? | ||
| More impossible. | ||
| Josh Phillips now joins us from the Epoch Times. | ||
| By the way, the single best broadsheet in the country. | ||
| What you guys have done is absolutely incredible. | ||
| The coverage of China, the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| You guys are a platform for the truth. | ||
| Between Epoch Times, was it NTD TV? | ||
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Yeah, NTD. | |
| You got G News with Miles going out. | ||
| We have combined The best coverage of China of anybody. | ||
| It's absolutely unbelievable. | ||
| Talk to us about Nancy Pelosi's trip, and particularly, people are very worried now that these naval exercises are going to lead to a naval blockade. | ||
| What does the Epoch Times reporting tell us? | ||
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Yeah, well Steve, you know, I think you and I are on the front lines of this and have been for a good while. | |
| I think the Chinese Communist Party is using this basically as an excuse to do what they were already wanting to do, which is try to take over Taiwan. | ||
| And the reality with Taiwan is the Chinese Communist Party would have a devastating war worthy to invade it. | ||
| Beachheads. | ||
| Imagine D-Day on every front. | ||
| You believe it'd be like Normandy? | ||
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It would be like Normandy and then once they get on the ground it would be like Iwo Jima because that underground base is all threatened. | |
| It would be devastating for the Chinese military. | ||
| I think what they're doing instead of direct invasion is they're basically sieging Taiwan. | ||
| Like imagine a medieval castle siege. | ||
| They're surrounding Taiwan. | ||
| We'll see how long they maintain this for. | ||
| It might even be a couple years. | ||
| You mean a naval blockade and an air blockade? | ||
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I think that's what they're doing. | |
| And, you know, you can argue that we can do freedom of navigation exercises where American warships could still go through and risk it, but will shipping containers risk it? | ||
| Will, you know, trade vessels risk it? | ||
| I don't know if they will, Steve. | ||
| Okay, tell from the Epoch Times point of view. | ||
| Understand the Taiwan economy and how industry could be linked to the American economy. | ||
| We call Taiwan Silicon Valley West. | ||
| The bill just got passed last week about bringing chips. | ||
| But that's a 10-year process. | ||
| What happens to the American economy if Xi decides to put a blockade or a quarantine around Taiwan? | ||
| What happens to us? | ||
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It means the high-tech industry dies. | |
| It means we go back to like, you know, pre-semiconductors technology. | ||
| You think it'll be that tough? | ||
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At least in the short term, yes. | |
| I mean, what, like 95% of the chips come from Taiwan, something like that? | ||
| So you're saying that that can't happen, because that's a Great Depression in the United States. | ||
| Does Xi know that? | ||
| Is Xi prepared to risk that? | ||
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Xi is definitely aware, because Trump almost did it to Xi, if we remember. | |
| And so, remember Trump banned these temporarily in China, and he let Xi Jinping feel the pain. | ||
| The advanced chips. | ||
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Yes, he let Xi feel the pain with that. | |
| Talk to me about, you guys had great coverage about the financial collapse of the real estate industry. | ||
| Particularly, you see tanks that used to be in Tiananmen Square, now in front of the Bank of China. | ||
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That's right. | |
| In front of the bank, not letting Lao Baijing get to their savings as the real estate market collapses. | ||
| Is that as bad as it seems? | ||
| And will that trigger Xi to do some hyper-nationalism to let's go get Taiwan? | ||
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Steve, it's worse than it seems. | |
| Worse than it seems? | ||
| Worse for the Chinese Communist Party, I should know. | ||
| The reality is the Chinese economy was ready to burst. | ||
| They were bailed out by Western investment. | ||
| Basically what happened was the Chinese economy was collapsing, real estate markets were collapsing. | ||
| They saved that by telling the rest of the world during the COVID outbreak, hey, now is the time to invest in China. | ||
| We're going to build back, invest in infrastructure. | ||
| Western financial companies poured money into the Chinese Communist Party, bailed them out temporarily, but the problems were not fixed. | ||
| Now they're finding that all the money in the world can't bail them out. | ||
| And so they're having the problem now where people are having runs on the bank. | ||
| They're trying to use people's health codes for COVID. | ||
| It's a classic bank run and that's why they've got the tanks outside. | ||
| And they're also redefining your savings as investment products so that you can't withdraw an investment product, right? | ||
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That's the glory of digital currency. | |
| Walk us through, and I don't want you to speculate, but as you see these forces coming together, walk us through the next couple of months as a lead-up to the 20th Party Congress, where Xi wants to be emperor for life. | ||
| What do you think happens? | ||
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Well, the reality is Xi Jinping, of course, people talk about him as the supreme leader of the Chinese Communist Party. | |
| In reality, he does not control everything. | ||
| You have different families that control a lot of China. | ||
| You have different factions that control parts of China. | ||
| The Jiang faction, although Jiang Zemin is not doing so hot, still controls a lot. | ||
| And they're at each other's throats. | ||
| They do not like Xi Jinping. | ||
| And frankly, they're not any better. | ||
| So that should be clear. | ||
| Xi Jinping wants to control everything, even though he's kind of like chairman for life. | ||
| Or not, sorry, not chairman. | ||
| He wants to be chairman. | ||
| Even though he's, you know, technically in charge of the government side on the surface, he will not be in charge of the whole country unless he makes this step towards what Mao Zedong did to become chairman, where he would control everything. | ||
| That's the steps Xi is taking. | ||
| Now, can he do that? | ||
| A lot of it's going to be determined on whether or not he can demonstrate to other party leaders that he's capable of it and he can survive, you know, the game of thrones, so to speak, when they go after his throat. | ||
| And that's going to mean he has to demonstrate either that he can hold the country together, or he has to demonstrate his own personal, I think, power and viciousness, frankly. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| How do people get to Epoch Times? | ||
| How do they get to you on social media? | ||
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They can find Epoch Times at TheEpochTimes.com, T-H-E-E-P-O-C-H-T-I-M-E-S dot com, or Epoch TV. | |
| I'm at Josh J. Phillips. | ||
| Can we give it up for Josh Phillips and Epoch Times? | ||
| Give me one more interview before we go. | ||
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Are you kidding? | |
| No, I'm the founder of California Parents Union. | ||
| We're building a special interest group bigger than the teachers unions to take them down in California. | ||
| Amazing! | ||
| Okay, we're gonna take a short commercial break. | ||
| Jane Zirkle, now she's got a cowboy hat on, will be back here to talk to the War Room posse. | ||
| We've got a packed second hour. | ||
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