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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
This is going to be a real serious problem.
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Live from CPAC, it's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
from CPAC.
It's Thursday, 4 August here over at 2022.
But this is the afternoon show.
It's going to be a little while.
We've got some great guests coming in studio, trying to track down Governor Sarah Palin, President Trump's pollster John McLaughlin.
We've got Boris with a live report from Bedminster.
I want to start with my good buddy here, Eric Prince.
Eric Prince.
eric prince
Steve, thank you.
steve bannon
So listen, Nancy Pelosi goes to Taiwan, right?
First of all, do you agree with that?
Do you agree with what she did as speaker?
Because isn't she kind of like putting Biden out of a job?
I thought Commander-in-Chief did this.
eric prince
Yeah, it was definitely not a Commander-in-Chief type role for her to be doing.
I applaud anything that pokes the CCP is a good thing, but I think It gives the CCP too much of a reason with the blockade and all the other stuff they're doing.
It might even give Xi Jinping enough of a lift with his domestic market to infuriate him that it makes his re-election this fall easier.
steve bannon
I don't think... To emperor for life.
eric prince
Emperor for life.
I don't think he'll... I don't think they'll try to keep the blockade on.
I mean, certainly the United States cannot let... The Western world cannot let them be choked off and isolated like a Berlin airlift scenario like we had in the...
In the 40s after World War II, we can't let that stand.
Xi has to be re-elected in his mind, so he'll try to keep the pressure on to make noise.
steve bannon
Look, all this naval activity, or what we're seeing, you're one of the smartest guys in the world about this, is what we're seeing is that portend a naval or air blockade right now in Taiwan.
eric prince
Effectively is there now.
They've really shut down most of the commercial air travel and commercial vessels.
So there is effectively a blockade now.
How long that lasts, we don't know.
I hope it doesn't last long, but it cannot be allowed to continue ad infinitum.
steve bannon
Let me ask my, let me ask our posse right here.
By the way, do we support a free and independent Taiwan?
unidentified
Hell yes!
steve bannon
What do we want to do with the CCP?
unidentified
100%.
steve bannon
No question.
We're in the process of checking in by the way.
We've had great support here at CPAC.
Do you support, are we treading into something very dangerous when we start talking about a free and independent Taiwan versus the one China policy?
eric prince
I would have rather had an appropriation go in to get Taiwan some good diesel-electric submarines or good minefields or encourage them to build an actual home guard which, like a model that the Ukrainians use...
steve bannon
You don't believe that if we supported diesel boat submarines, the Chinese Communist Party say that's an act of war right there?
Because what are they going to use diesel boat submarines for?
The torpedoes, fast attack, shooting down... For ensuring free and open navigation.
Like every other country.
Of the Straits of Taiwan, the South China Sea.
eric prince
So that the Taiwanese people can always eat.
Yes.
steve bannon
How important is us to confront... Do you believe that we are going from hybrid or unrestricted warfare, which is economic, cyber, and information?
Do you think we're sliding into kinetic war right now?
eric prince
The Chinese will make a lot of noise.
I mean, lining up the tanks, all their amphibious vehicles, on the beach of Xiamen, directly across the stage from Taiwan.
That's a lot of noise, but no fire.
steve bannon
You mean the amphibious thing they're lining up?
eric prince
Yeah, they line up all the tanks at the beach.
Look, it'd be a bigger problem if they were loading it onto ferries to take it across.
That's real.
Lining them up as a big chess-beating exercise, that's noise that's just for the domestic audience.
They fired missiles I think today or yesterday, from Chinese facilities and even hit inside of the economic exclusion zone of Japan today, the first time that's happened in 75 years.
steve bannon
In the East China Sea.
eric prince
Correct.
Correct.
So they hit inside of waters which would be considered the EEZ of Japan, not just Taiwan.
They are definitely throwing down.
steve bannon
You think they're sending a message to the entire region?
That if you back the Americans, there's going to be blowback?
eric prince
They want to, but again, they want to win this thing in an asymmetrical way as possible.
They don't want it to go to a full-on conventional war.
Look, every general surrounding Xi has paid for that position.
As problematic as a lot of... What do you mean by that?
Meaning, based on corruption.
Based on their buying that position because they get to trade on that for years to come.
steve bannon
They don't rise as a meritocracy.
They're not the best generals or the best warfighters.
eric prince
And so you have a combination of a lot of very political generals, even more so than we suffer from here, political generals there that have bought a lot of stuff and they've kind of started to believe they're all nonsense. So that's a, uh, it's an interesting wrestling match for Xi to say, ma, I mean, because if they try to take Taiwan by force and they fail, it is absolutely the end of his rule and probably of the CCP. I don't think that's a gamut they want to throw down just yet.
So they will try to make noise, intimidate, bluster, try to take it through all means, just short of full on kinetic war.
So that's why the United States has to be smarter in fighting these unconventionally and quietly giving the kind of aid, the kind of deterrence Why I want Taiwan to build a home guard so badly, because if they mobilize just 3% of their population, that's another 750,000 people with guns, with capability, that all they have to do is step outside and defend their neighborhood.
That is a huge math problem for any invading force to have to contemplate.
steve bannon
Are we prepared to win a war right now about the defense of Taiwan, an amphibious assault?
And are we prepared to win a war in the South China Sea or defending the Straits of Taiwan, the U.S.
7th Fleet, today if the balloon went up?
eric prince
Right.
As you said before, are they ready to fight tonight?
I don't know that they are because they've had a lot of maintenance problems.
They've had a lot of good order and discipline problems between fatal collisions with commercial vessels, losing a submarine, crashing into a seamount, losing a six billion dollar warship to a fire while it's tied up.
The Bonhomme Richard tied up in San Diego Harbor.
Those are not the things that that deliver a message of strength and capability and deterrence, and when you pile that on top of the debacle of the Afghan pullout, and really even allowing the failure of deterrence to stop Putin from invading Ukraine, they see, I mean, I worry that if the Chinese are going to do something, they're going to do it while Joe Biden is president.
Because they see the ultimate perfect leader for them to be able to push in and assert their will.
steve bannon
You don't think we did enough deterrence?
Trump had deterrence on stopping Putin in Ukraine.
Why didn't Biden?
eric prince
Because he was not of the swamp.
He was not a known political animal.
And I think Putin respected him as another leader that would make difficult choices and would go toe-to-toe with him if he needed to.
The Biden leadership style has not been very strong.
And it empowers weakness.
I mean, everywhere around the world it's going crazy.
Nigeria is melting down.
The DRC is melting down.
The left has swept through elections all through South America in a way we haven't seen in a hundred years.
So it is a pervasive problem.
I keep thinking, I correlate now the period we're in to the late 70s in America, A Carter administration?
We're far worse than where we were in the Carter administration.
steve bannon
You mean far worse?
You think we're weaker today than we were in that?
eric prince
Relative to the world, yes.
We don't have the ample supply of reserves economically, and we have $30 trillion in debt.
steve bannon
You think financially we're in much worse shape?
eric prince
Yes, especially the dollar as the world's reserve currency is at risk.
The overuse of sanctions is forcing other countries to still trade.
It's too much the easy button for Washington to think they're doing something instead of the kind of covert action, subterfuge that we should be doing to make our enemies fear us or respect us.
steve bannon
Why don't you hang on?
We're going to continue this conversation.
I've got Eric Prince, one of the smartest guys geopolitically in the world in a war room regular.
Hang on.
James Urkel, let's go.
Let's introduce, have some of the posse introduce themselves.
We've got to have that... CPAC today?
unidentified
Well, I'm here because, like all of us, we want to save this country.
Also, I wanted to say that I'm part of the group of parents, and we were very successful in getting our school board in Grapevine flipped.
It was seven.
Liberals and we've got to change to Four conservatives and three liberals.
Wow, and that's that grassroots activism at work.
Now, also, Clarissa, tell me what compelled you to come to CPAC today.
To hear Steve, of course, number one, and I'm also with Moms for Liberty out of Tarrant County, and so we're here to support Mr. Bannon, and we're part of the Deporables and the War Room Posse, and we love him.
steve bannon
How many here right here are from Texas?
unidentified
Just a few of us.
steve bannon
How many here are not from Texas?
unidentified
All right.
steve bannon
You're not from Texas.
Where are you coming from?
unidentified
Where?
steve bannon
Wow.
Wow.
Nashville.
Tennessee.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
I want to make sure we get that fixed so I can hear it, Harry.
You had it before, so we can boom it.
Eric?
unidentified
Eric Crimson.
steve bannon
Talk to me about the Chinese Communist Party, the military threat of it, okay?
Is it a military threat outside the South China Sea, outside the Straits of Taiwan?
Can the United States military thwart them if they want to strafe the Straits of Malacca, if they want to partner up with other nations in the Eurasian landmass?
Are they going to be a big partner to Russia in the Ukraine?
Where do we need to fear them militarily?
eric prince
Look, their money, we need worst of all, we need to clarify and to purify the CCP influence out of America.
unidentified
Because whether it's the... What do you mean out of America?
steve bannon
The influence peddling here in this country?
eric prince
Look, after World War II, it was very clear that the Soviet Union squared off against.
It was East versus West, freedom versus communism.
For all those years since then, the globalists had this idea that if we made China rich and we allowed them into the WTO, that if we made them rich that they would become like us.
It hasn't.
It has reinforced their CCP tendencies.
steve bannon
We became like them.
eric prince
Our oligarchs, our tech oligarchs, their tentacles of that money.
With big Wall Street, with the big hedge fund managers, that nobody wants to stand up to China, even in Hollywood, right?
It's amazing to see Hollywood has come alive to the fact that a movie like Top Gun that is pro-America and kind of stands up to China because China was complaining about the mere patch of Taiwan on Tom Cruise's jacket.
They stood up to that.
steve bannon
They digitally removed it at one time and then put it back.
eric prince
And then they put it back and that movie did over a billion dollars.
Amazing.
And so Hollywood has woken up.
So we need to, the next administration has to make it very clear.
Are you on the side of freedom?
steve bannon
You mean the Trump administration when it returns to office?
eric prince
Damn right.
steve bannon
What is this next administration thing?
eric prince
I just can't wait until that day.
Look, are you on the side of freedom or are you on the side of the CCP and all the tentacles, right?
The United Front Work Party is away, right?
So whether it's Confucius Institutes at universities, paying for research grants in biotech, And the amount they have been insidious in how they've implanted Chinese access actors throughout our society.
steve bannon
Nancy Pelosi, all her donors are Silicon Valley, and the big guys are already Sequoia Capital, totally infiltrated by the CCP, Silicon Valley by the CCP.
Was her just performative?
Is this just an act that she did?
Or is this meaningful, given that the Democratic Party, with the big corporatists, with big tech, big media, has already been compromised by the CCP?
Is this anything more than performative?
eric prince
Maybe it is.
I'm glad.
I'm glad to see representatives of the U.S.
government visiting Taiwan.
My worry is that it only gives them a caustic belly to do this and to lash out at Taiwan.
I still don't think they're trying to go the distance right now because Xi has to be re-elected.
steve bannon
You don't think they're going the distance?
You think he wants to get past the party conference in November?
eric prince
He's got to get past the party conference because, right, why did he lock down Shanghai for so long?
It wasn't about COVID.
It was because of the Shanghai faction.
Right.
You have three factions.
The Young Princelings, the Shanghai Faction, and the Communist Youth League.
He smashed the other ones.
He had to smash Shanghai.
And he did, welding people into their houses over COVID.
steve bannon
When they had 18 cases in Shanghai, a city of 32 million people.
eric prince
It was about making sure no one from Shanghai rose up and opposed Okay.
steve bannon
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're live at CPAC.
We're trying to wrangle Governor Palin right now.
Eric's going to stick with me.
We've got John McLaughlin.
John's the president's pollster.
Boris is going to check in from Bedminster, all of it.
Short commercial break.
We're gonna be back in the war room in just a moment.
unidentified
Hey, Harry.
Pandemic.
War Room, pandemic, with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room, pandemic. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Welcome back. We got a wrap.
We've got a very rowdy crowd here of deplorables and horrid posse.
steve bannon
We've got our own Jane Zirkle.
Jane, I'm going to toss it to you.
Let's hear from the posse.
unidentified
Let me ask you guys, how can Steve Banning get his fight on the TV show?
Well, Steve's a fighter.
He gives us stuff to do.
Instead of sitting at home being pissed off, Steve says, be a precinct chair.
Here's the website.
Here's your senator or legislator.
Call them.
Here's the number flashing on the screen.
Go ahead.
I became a precinct chair in Travis County because of this show.
And now I work with county citizens defending freedom for election integrity because of this show.
Amazing, amazing.
How important is grassroots activism?
Well, Steve gets it.
steve bannon
There's a big picture here.
unidentified
He unwinds it, he knows what's going on, and he communicates it well.
That's key.
steve bannon
I want to introduce you to my agent.
unidentified
Why do you think grassroots activism is so important?
I think it's important if you look at Bannon's show, your ability to grab large swaths of people, of different kinds of people together, whether it's Veterans, whether it's the tech community, all different kinds of people, you're more effective than a lot of people, the politicians.
steve bannon
So, thanks Steve.
unidentified
Now CNN calls him a divider, but do you all think he's a uniter?
eric prince
This group looks pretty united.
steve bannon
Want to introduce Jane Zirkle.
Jane Zirkle right there.
Now, she was Rudy's assistant.
That's how we met her in the war room.
We put her out in Turning Point, USA.
We had amazing interviews.
Now, she's not from Texas.
She's from Palm Beach, but she decided to get up in Texas.
Garb Jane, thank you so much.
A great new asset.
unidentified
Thanks.
steve bannon
Jane Zirkle.
Let's rotate people through, and we'll get them before Governor Palin gets here.
Right now, we're coming up on the one-year anniversary of Afghanistan.
unidentified
Yep.
steve bannon
Right?
unidentified
I think it's on the 13th?
steve bannon
Is that correct?
Or right around there?
eric prince
Yes.
And amazingly, for all the promise that Afghanistan would no longer harbor al-Qaeda, where did they kill Zawahiri?
steve bannon
What was the promise on that?
What was the promise on that?
eric prince
They promised it would no longer be a terror sanctuary.
And of course, Zawahiri was living in a luxury palace 300 meters from the UK embassy in the Green Zone.
They used to call it the area of Poppy Palaces because that's where all the money went.
steve bannon
Poppy Palace from the heroin trade.
eric prince
From the heroin trade.
And there, he was in a home owned by the Haqqanis.
steve bannon
The Haqqani Network.
eric prince
Yes.
So you have the Haqqanis, which were on the the bounty list with DOJ, right?
$5 million, $10 million, because they're terrorists.
One of them is now the Interior Minister of Afghanistan.
And they were renting out the house to Ayman Zawahiri, the co-founder of Al Qaeda, literally the co-mastermind of the 9-11 attacks.
And he's living there in luxury.
And they got him because he went on his porch consistently every morning and finally they smoked him.
steve bannon
Here's what people want to know.
How did it take 21 years to finally get that guy?
I mean, you've worked special operations, you've worked with the agency, paramilitary, you know all the tracking devices we have.
How did it take 21 years to track this guy down?
eric prince
Because he was living very cautiously.
I think for a while he was even living in Iran.
Much of his family was in Iran.
steve bannon
He was in Iran.
eric prince
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
eric prince
Between the tribal areas being harbored by Pakistan, like bin Laden was, or covied up in Iran.
And he came back.
I think he got sloppy and he paid the price for it.
Good riddance.
steve bannon
They have not actually done a DNA.
I mean, we don't have an official, right now, DNA check or whatever they do.
Are you absolutely sure we got him?
eric prince
Yeah, they got him.
steve bannon
I don't want to do any conspiracy.
You're saying your contacts said we got him.
eric prince
I'm pretty confident they got him.
steve bannon
Walk us through the logistics.
How did that happen?
eric prince
Look.
steve bannon
Give us the unclassified version.
eric prince
In the same way that they track people, whether it's electronically or family members or optically, right?
They're looking.
This is a guy they've been looking for for a long time.
And the cameras are so good on these drones.
They locked in.
And finally, they got permission to take a shot.
steve bannon
Do you believe — by the way, Tom Friedman had a column the other day about how he was opposed, how opposed he was to Nancy Pelosi going to Taiwan.
But the very lead, when he went down there — we talked about this on the show the other day — they said that the Biden administration has lost all faith in Zelensky.
They think Zelensky is a liar and they specifically called out he fired his attorney general and the head of his intelligence services on the same day via equivalent of Biden firing Merrick Garland and the head of the CIA.
What is your assessment?
Because there's all types of spin.
What's your assessment of the combat reality?
What is the ground truth of where that war is right now in Ukraine?
eric prince
I'm happy to see any leader hold their national security apparatus accountable, right?
Something we haven't done here in America in a long time.
Look, the Russians are grinding along when the Ukrainians don't really have the ability to maneuver.
That means the Russians can move their artillery within range, and they just start pounding.
And they're pounding at 5,000 to 10,000 rounds a day, like a rototiller.
steve bannon
You came on about a month ago and said they're going to rototill the Ukrainian military.
eric prince
And that's happening?
What's left of it?
But the Russians have lost serious casualties.
They have a big problem because Putin does not want to mobilize because that would be a huge political problem.
So they're sending every non-Russian ethnicity that they can from, like, Baikal, from the Far East, from the Mongolian border, everywhere.
Not very capable troops.
And so those are dying.
steve bannon
You're saying not Russians from Moscow.
They're not ethnic Russians.
They're not doing press gangs in the clubs and bars in Moscow.
eric prince
Correct.
The mayors ended up sponsoring regiments, kind of like we did in the American Civil War, trying to put more people out there, trying to pay and incentivize, as is the Wagner Group, their favorite private military company, is recruiting globally, trying to get people to show up.
Because they're dying.
Look, the Ukrainians are still fighting well.
The Ukrainian special operations are fighting very well.
steve bannon
Have the Russians lost 75,000 men?
eric prince
I don't know if it's 75,000, but it's approaching 50.
steve bannon
Approaching 50?
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
How many hit the Ukrainians?
Zelensky's talking about raising a million-man army.
The New York Times had a story.
They were running press gangs through Ukraine, through the bars, and guys are hiding.
How many actual troops does he have deployed on the Donbas?
eric prince
I don't think they're running press gangs.
I was in Ukraine some weeks ago.
I didn't see anything like that.
steve bannon
Oh my God, we're going to get a classified.
Eric Brinks was in the Ukraine.
eric prince
The fact is, Ukrainians showed up by the millions from other jobs that they were working in Europe, they came back to their country to fight.
I think it's as imperfect as Ukrainian democracy might be, people showed up with their own flesh and blood to defend their land and their culture From the Russian bear taking it.
So that's to be applauded.
I don't think we should leave it hanging.
steve bannon
The escalation has really come, though, from the West, hasn't it?
I mean, it's the West that's pressing in there.
Austin and Blinken want to severely degrade the Russian military and force them out of Ukraine.
Is that going to happen?
Is that realistic?
eric prince
I think there will not be a peace deal until Putin is militarily unable to continue to pound.
I'd say it's probably the goal of the Pentagon now to up the ability of the Ukrainians to punch back a bit.
steve bannon
I'll tell you what we're going to do.
We've got Governor Palin.
Let's bring her on in.
Can you guys welcome Sarah Palin?
unidentified
How are you?
steve bannon
We got Eric French.
How are you?
America's favorite mercenary.
unidentified
Yeah, he is.
Thank you for your service, sir.
steve bannon
So listen, first off, tell us about the congressional run.
We're looking forward to having you in the House.
Having you in the House.
Shouldn't Governor Palin be part of the leadership of the House?
unidentified
Yes, screw that freshman stuff.
Let me get right on in there with all the other congressmen.
Or congresswomen.
Congressman, please call me.
It's going well.
You know, it's Alaska.
Alaskans know me.
They know why I'm running.
Drill, baby, drill.
Energy independence.
Freedom.
All about freedom.
Stopping the rhinos.
Stopping the Democrats.
And it's bizarre though, Steve, because you'll appreciate this, this new fangled weirdo voting system we have, where it's mail-in only ballots, Dominion computerized counting, no hand counting, and it's ranked choice voting.
steve bannon
No paper ballots, only polling machines.
unidentified
Polling machines, computerized Dominion, and even in a little tiny village where maybe five people vote.
Nope, can't count them by hand, gotta go through the system.
Just keep your eyes and ears open.
And President Trump was up there a couple weeks ago.
He rallied with us and it was awesome.
So much electricity.
You should get back there as you had a good time last time up there.
And President Trump tried to explain to the audience out there that with this ranked choice voting, the third place, the third most popular, Candidate can actually win the thing through a process of elimination in a weird counting system.
steve bannon
So isn't that how it's set up?
Is this the Murkowski you fought when you came as the mayor of Wasilla and became the governor?
Your number one thing was to take on the old boy network, right?
They didn't think you had it in you.
They knew oil and gas and you bench press them.
Is this the old boy network setting up the back?
unidentified
It's back and you call it a nice term.
Good old boys network.
They actually had hats back in the day where they embroidered on him the corrupt Bastards Club.
Well, too many of them are back.
At least their thinking is back.
So Lisa Murkowski's attorney pushed hard for this new voting system to get her back in there in the Senate because she couldn't win straight up as a Republican.
So that's what that's all about.
That should have told Republican lawmakers in our legislature from the start something's whack about the voting system.
It came from Murkowski.
steve bannon
So tell us, Hal, does the Murkowski machine still run the state?
unidentified
Murkowskis and Baggages.
We have the two dynasties.
One registered Republican, one registered Democrat family.
steve bannon
These are the aristocracy right now, as they see it, of Alaska.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I really think they think they have more influence than they actually do, because especially the young people, you know, they're all about this third great awakening.
They're all about a real wokeness, right?
And they don't care about families that have claimed this dynasty for years and years.
They want change.
They know it's now or never for our country.
steve bannon
Can you hang for a commercial break?
Governor Sarah Palin is with us.
We're live at CPAC.
We have Eric Prince, Governor Palin, Stephen K. Bannon.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to turn with the War Room Posse here live at CPAC in just a moment.
unidentified
Thank you.
We're at CPAC Live here in the War Room.
We will fight till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CPD.
They have all our...
Welcome back. We're at CPAC Live during the war room.
Hey, give us a war room shout out.
What do you guys...
steve bannon
Should Governor Palin be in leadership as soon as she gets to the House?
Not yet.
There we have it.
Look, I got a question.
We talk about this all the time.
The morning media gets all over all the Republicans, gets all over you all the time.
Morning Joe.
Mika Brzezinski carries that show.
I've got a question for you.
Shouldn't it be called Morning Mika?
And I've got a question.
Does MSNBC pay her more than she pays Joe Scarborough?
Because they're all over us as a bunch of white nationalists and misogynists and Donald Trump's the worst thing in the world.
What does MSNBC, what does Sarah Palin, Governor Palin think?
unidentified
Okay, Mika, Joe.
The word that comes to mind is subservient.
Mika, come on!
She's allowing this to happen, yet she's gonna judge us and preach to us about we, supposedly?
Okay, that's really pathetic, and that's a great point.
steve bannon
You mean if she was truly independent?
unidentified
If she were a true feminist, but these fake feminists, they just kill me.
No, she's satisfied with that, and yet, again, she puts herself in a seat of judgment for everybody else.
That's the problem that I have with it.
But yeah, and didn't Mika come first?
steve bannon
Miko's been a journalist, I think, for 20 or 30 years.
She was really the heart of it.
She does more of the work.
It's very simply solved.
Typical guy drafting off a strong woman.
unidentified
Let's see their pay stubs.
steve bannon
Do you believe she should be paid at least as much or more than Joe?
unidentified
Well, more, because she's supposed to be the principal, and yet she's allowing herself to be under Joe.
That's pretty pathetic.
And you know, though, behind every successful man stands a surprised woman.
Maybe she's just surprised at how Joe has succeeded, because he's not a journalist.
He's just a talker.
He's a failed congressman, isn't he, I think?
steve bannon
One or two terms.
unidentified
You can say that.
steve bannon
One or two terms.
You talk about the Great Awakening a moment ago.
Oh, yes, yes.
I know you are, having been the filmmaker that made your biography, was it ten years ago?
unidentified
Yeah, that was the best.
steve bannon
And I spent that great time in Alaska with you.
You're not just deeply spiritual, you're very religious and your religion forms a core of you.
When you talk about a great awakening, what do you mean?
unidentified
And you talk about that film called The Undefeated.
I hope that's providential.
I believe it is providential, the title even itself, The Undefeated.
The Great Awakening.
You know, I think inherent in, especially young people, is this passion for, this need for, this understanding of freedom.
God created this drive for freedom within us.
So I think these young people, looking at what our government is doing to us, it was our government of course feds, It was set up to protect our individual rights, not take them from us.
And yet that's what they're doing.
They're succeeding at taking away our rights.
So I think young people especially are going, no, no, no, no.
You know, we've had, we've had awakenings before in the history of mankind.
It is time for the awakening.
It'll be the third great awakening, but everyone rising up, awakening to what these young people are feeling, what they actually desire.
And, um, No, it's going to be all about activism, you know, putting our feet to the floor, running with this idea, with this principle, with this truth that we are made to be free, not to be subservient to government.
steve bannon
Okay, let me, Eric, I want to ask you too, but they're going to accuse you right now when you start talking about Great Awakening.
Because they've already accused you of it, that this is all about a Christian nationalism.
This is a militant church, right?
That people, we want to enforce our beliefs everywhere.
So when they say, okay, when Sarah Palin talks about the great awakening, that's code word for a white nationalist, Christian nationalism.
What say you, ma'am?
unidentified
Wow, and that's all they got?
No, it's so far from it.
You know, it's all about tolerance.
It's tolerating other people's beliefs, allowing them to have the freedom, as long as they're not hurting somebody else.
That's part of the awakening that we need.
This council culture and all this political correctness, all the political correct speech that they try to tell us what to think, what to say.
No, I think people are awakening to the truth, that we were not created to be that, and we will fight back.
And anybody who wants to accuse me of inciting violence, like they tried to accuse you of, well, hey, it's not the first time I've been falsely accused of anything.
The falsehood in that alone tells you, whoever's going to spew that kind of falsehood, tells you how narrow-minded and intolerant and how dense they are.
So, you know, I'm going to consider the source if they're going to accuse me of that.
steve bannon
It's when they go up to the prince and they go up to you.
Like they went up to Carrie Lake and Eric Greitens.
They're never going to debate you on the subject matter.
unidentified
I know.
Doggone it, I know.
steve bannon
You know why?
Because they know you're bench pressing.
unidentified
Yeah.
Right?
steve bannon
Because you know oil and gas.
You know energy.
You know national security.
unidentified
And the Constitution.
steve bannon
And you were a tough governor that backed off The corrupt guys in Alaska.
They'll never debate you on that.
It's got to be the politics of personal destruction.
They have to come after you personally, like they came after Kerry Lake personally.
$30 million.
They're never going to debate you.
So how do you get around that?
How do you work around that?
Because like him, they're not going to sit there and debate Eric Prince on national security or geopolitics.
What they're going to say is Eric Prince is a bad guy.
Eric Prince does this.
unidentified
I'm a bad mom.
They'll try to poke the bear on that one.
Personally, I live by the mantra, if you don't live by man's praise, you're not going to die by man's criticism.
But those false accusations that lead to potential danger when they accuse us of inciting violence, they're just riling up their base.
And who knows what Seth is inciting in the obstructionists, those who don't want a freedom-loving pro-America agenda to succeed.
So, you know, I consider the source, but Steve, you, more than anyone, you know that politics is a personal destruction because they try it on you over and over again.
But it's like President Trump told me.
He called right when our Congressman Don Young had died and President Trump asked if I was going to run, wanted me to run.
steve bannon
He called you and said, I want you to run.
unidentified
He did.
And he said... Amen, brother.
Amen.
And I said, you are not a real politician.
Thank you.
You know, you're loyal.
Right on.
That's great.
But anyway, he said, Governor Palin, you got nothing to lose.
He goes, I got nothing to lose either.
Imagine if we're both in there together.
But he also said, though, consider what they've said about you, your kids, what they've done to you.
What more can they do?
That's free.
You know, that allows the shackles to be off.
And that's not a racist term because, you know, I'm going to get deemed for saying shackles now too, Steve.
However, shackles are off, freedom, nothing to lose.
So, you know, it's just balls to the wall, go do the right thing.
steve bannon
When you say nothing to lose, you went to the Alaska Capitol as a small town governor and they kind of didn't take you seriously.
They said, well, she's a former sportscaster and an athlete and a jock, but, you know, who is a small... What's Wasilla?
You went there and shocked them by saying... Because I remember when I did the interview, they said she knew more about the oil and gas industry and the corrupt practices than we knew, and you attacked them.
When you go to Washington, D.C., I mean, God bless you what you did in Alaska.
But the scale of the corruption and incompetence in Washington, it's Babylon on the Potomac, right?
It is a wash in five and a half trillion dollars a year of a federal budget that's all graft and corruption.
What is Sarah Palin going to do after she wins when you come to Washington?
Because remember, in the film, you said you told me your favorite movie is Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, right?
So what do you do when you get to Washington, D.C.
as congressman representing the great state of Alaska?
unidentified
Yeah, and I wish I could stand on the floor and repeat the speech that he gave, you know, because that meant everything.
But yeah, you know, fighting corruption is, that's got to be the name of all of our games, or our country's going under.
And the things that they've gotten away with thus far, it's sinful, it's disgusting, it's a sickness there in D.C.
But someone like me, when I talk about nothing to lose, in terms of, nobody I don't have those conflicts of interest.
I don't have crony capitalism in my blood whatsoever.
It's people like me who can hit the ground running to get up there with a promise to drain the swamp.
The good guys in office today, they need reinforcements.
And that's why I'm running.
I've always said, you don't need a title, you don't need an office to get up there and fight for what's right and make a difference.
But our good guys need some votes along with them, and I want to provide that.
But not only that, I do want to provide leadership to remind the other congressmen, don't be scared, don't be frightened.
They're not going to kill you.
They're not going to kill you.
They will try everything they can to destroy you and your family, but you stand strong, and I hope my track record can help prove that it's doable.
steve bannon
There's a lot of discussion about investigations, investigations of Fauci, investigations of the laptop from hell, Hunter Biden's, all these investigations about the southern border, all the emails, and how did we get to the invasion of the southern border?
In your priorities, when the laptop from hell, the Biden corruption, Fauci, what happened in the Wuhan lab, you got the southern border, the whole Ukraine situation, what's been going on with the Chinese Communist Party, their infiltration and influence peddling, as you rank order those.
Right, not in your voting because you're going to win.
When you come to D.C., walk us through your priorities.
unidentified
Yeah, okay, that's a great question because you just, you know, rattled off so many corrupt acts that are going on today that are being accepted.
It does, though, bring me back to the reason I'm running.
The good guys in office needing votes.
I'm so tired of hearing about investigations.
Whatever happens to the findings?
steve bannon
Nobody goes to jail on their end on the corrupt Do you think these investigations ought to be real, they ought to be meaningful, and there ought to be consequences for whether it's the finance of the Wuhan lab, the Fauci's operation, or Hunter Biden?
You have to get to the facts.
You're not going to have a show trial like January 6th.
You're actually going to get there, do it even-handedly, but you're saying pursue it to its ultimate end and then hold people accountable.
unidentified
Not only that, but we can't give up on the other corrupt acts that put our country in the position that we're in, like the 30,000 emails that were erased, and oh, that was okay.
Crooked Hillary did that.
Benghazi, oh my gosh, all these things were, oh yeah, we're gonna investigate.
Congress should be having these badass, huge rallies on the steps of the Capitol, and it should be congressmen.
They have the platform.
They should be having these press conferences.
They should even be having fireside chats.
They should do whatever they can to get out there with a message to the public, to let them know what's going on, right?
I don't know why they don't seize the opportunity.
steve bannon
Number one, I don't... Yes, sir, go ahead.
eric prince
Congress has the power of the purse.
The beast does not get smaller until we starve it.
The most important thing the next Congress has to do is start to scale down the spending.
The reason the five counties surrounding Washington, D.C.
are per capita the wealthiest in the country is because of that $5 trillion that flows through there.
The reason we're doing stupid gain-of-function stuff in the Wuhan labs is because we spend too much money.
Starve the beast, that's how you drain the swamp, by literally putting bureaucrats and the NGOs and all the affiliated characters out of business.
Make them go get a real job and pay real taxes.
steve bannon
Correct me if I'm wrong, when you went to Wasilla with what Eric Prince just said, didn't you balance the budgets in Alaska, if I remember correctly?
unidentified
I did, and then when I was governor, in my city of Wasilla, I got rid of personal property taxes, reduced real property taxes, all that kind of stuff that in the end Actually generates revenue for government because it speeds up your economy.
Did the same thing as governor with record vetoes in order to cut down on the spending, of course.
You don't make any friends doing that in the legislature, so you're always butting heads with your own party, even.
But, okay, so yeah, power of the purse.
That's huge.
But do you agree with me, though, that Congress should be using their platform either collectively or individually?
Get out there and tell the people You've got a global platform.
steve bannon
We've got to bounce.
I know you do.
How do people find out about the campaign and most importantly, how they support you?
unidentified
Oh, that's awesome.
And it's really simple.
It's sarahforalaska.com is the website.
Go there.
All of our positions are spelled out in black and white.
Pro-life, pro-gun, all this.
None of the other candidates did that.
Isn't that a surprise?
Sarah for Alaska.
Nothing's capitalized.
Dot com.
And you'll see all my positions.
I think a lot of people already know kind of which way I lean.
steve bannon
And people can volunteer and they can send money?
unidentified
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
That would be appreciated.
steve bannon
Mike Lindell said he had an amazing fundraiser last night.
Governor Palin, it's an honor to have you on here.
You're a fighter.
And we want to see you in leadership when you get to Congress.
unidentified
Alright, let's work on that too.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Can we hear it for Governor Sarah Palin?
Okay, with a short commercial break, we'll be back with my key pair, Prince, Governor Palin, thank you, War Room Posse, John McLaughlin, the President's Pulse is going to be here in a moment.
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steve bannon
We're live at CPAC.
anthony fauci
It's the war room.
steve bannon
We've got the CPAC posse right back there.
By the way, I've got the president's pollster, John McLaughlin, right here.
How many people want President Trump to announce quickly and run in 2024?
unidentified
I wish the election was today.
steve bannon
Okay, first off, you're Orban's also his poster.
Victor Orban was here, gave a magnificent speech.
Tell us about the speech first and why would Victor Orban come to Texas?
unidentified
Well, because his conservative message is really important in terms of the conservative political action conference went to Budapest after he got re-elected with his highest margin And when you think about the kind of climate that he was in, where the opposition, the Soros-funded opposition, had united against him.
They picked one candidate, and Orban won with a record majority, over 50%, which is really hard to do in a parliamentary system.
And he's got a record number of seats in his parliament.
And it was a time of surviving a global pandemic.
steve bannon
This is the fourth time he's run a road and every time it's a bigger landslide.
Talk to us about the source influence over there.
How tough is it?
unidentified
It's real.
It's a free country, a free democracy, where most people get their information off the internet.
And the leading TV station over there is an anti-Orban left-of-center station.
And the internet is funded by NGOs that Soros funds.
And then you also have the idea of our State Department.
Remember when you were in the White House?
steve bannon
Yeah.
unidentified
Our State Department was funding anti-Orban media over there.
steve bannon
Big time.
unidentified
Which was crazy.
And so... Insane.
steve bannon
So in effect... Are you glad he came?
He said to hell with the globalists, I'm here in Texas.
unidentified
Yeah, but it's a very important message that he had because he's saying the world needs a strong America.
steve bannon
Yes.
unidentified
Western civilization needs a strong America to defend our Judeo-Christian values because he says European countries, when you've been over there, they understand.
what it's like without a strong United States, when the United States is weak.
Yes.
Because what happens is, he said, Orbán talked about Nazism, they don't believe in God, they don't have our values.
Soviet communism, they don't have our values.
And if you have a world like that, in effect, bad things happen.
steve bannon
the Judeo-Christian West, one of the linchpins of it.
Before we talk about polling, I want to remind everybody, John McLaughlin was President Trump's pollster in 2016.
unidentified
Do we want John McLaughlin to be the lead pollster in 2024?
steve bannon
Can I hear it?
unidentified
If President Trump runs, are you coming back?
steve bannon
I mean you do this for a living.
unidentified
The math doesn't add up.
steve bannon
Okay, let's talk about some numbers.
Why is Joe Biden collapsing?
What's the real reason for it?
Could he have possibly had 81 million votes and have the bottom fall out as quickly as it's fallen out?
I mean, you do this for a living.
The math doesn't add up.
Doesn't that reinforce his illegitimacy?
unidentified
Well, the problem.
Yes.
Yes.
The media won't even look at Wisconsin where the state Supreme Court said their election was fraudulent.
Yes.
And there was this Supreme Court in a majority vote said that there were illegal ballots.
We warned them because David Plouffe, who was Obama's campaign manager, worked for Zuckerberg.
He put out a book.
steve bannon
He thought up the whole concept.
unidentified
Yes.
Where they were going to, because our strategy in 2016 was bring out new voters.
Big time.
And what we did.
The Trump voter.
Right.
We didn't vote for Romney in 2012.
We brought out millions of them.
steve bannon
Record turnout.
Former Democrats' independence.
unidentified
He reversed it on us and nobody at the RNC, the Republican National Committee, picked up on it.
steve bannon
They were talking about the ground game.
Because I know that you were telling them to give him a heads up.
We were talking about what Mark Elias put the Transition Integrity Project.
It's not like they hid it.
They bragged about it.
Raheem Kassam and I went around the nation and were given these secret recordings they're talking about are actually me giving talks throughout the country.
Elias said Trump's going to lead by a red tsunami.
They knew what they were doing and Zuckerberg paid for it.
but just wait for all the mail-in ballots to be counted.
It'll be three weeks and then Joe Biden will be named president.
unidentified
They knew what they were doing and Zuckerberg paid for it.
What's amazing is no one at the Republican National Committee has filed an IRS complaint against Zuckerberg because that $400 million was tax exempt.
The other part is no one has filed an FEC complaint against them because they basically violated the laws when they were doing that.
And the Republicans, you know, like our friend Pat Cadell used to say, Democrats are the crooked party.
The Republicans are the stupid party.
And it's like we were fighting and saying they're going to steal the election in states like Texas, where Ken Paxton stood up to them in Florida, where they stood up to North Carolina and didn't change the election laws.
We won.
In states like Georgia, where they signed off on the drop boxes that were unsecure, that people were dropping multiple ballots in, that you've got documentaries out on now, Dave Bossie.
steve bannon
Dave Bossie, Great 2020.
I think you're in that, and they've got 2,000 mules.
You know the facts.
Talk to me real quickly about Maricopa County.
That's the Republican, the McCain establishment, the anti-Trump forces, trying to slow walk Kerry Lakes.
Victory?
unidentified
Well, I don't know.
I was like... I was working for Jim Lehman, who's a really good guy.
Good conservative.
Good guy.
steve bannon
I like Jim a lot.
unidentified
Very good guy in Arizona.
But, you know, sure.
steve bannon
I mean, you know... Does it shock you that Maricopa County, one of the biggest cities, Phoenix, one of the most sophisticated cities in the world, we're now 125,000 ballots.
They're going to bleed them out at 5,000 at a time.
They knew this was coming for two years.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
It's not... And it's Republican.
Kanawha County and Maricopa County are Republican-controlled.
unidentified
Well, this is the problem because Soros goes out there and funds Secretary of State.
steve bannon
Big time.
unidentified
And so you have Katie Hobbs, who beat out Steve Gaynor.
And Ducey didn't fight for Steve Gaynor four years ago in 2018.
When he won.
So it cost us in 2020.
And it cost us probably, you know... You're the president's pollster.
steve bannon
How do people get to you on social media?
How do they follow what you've got to say?
unidentified
Well, you go to McLaughlinOnline.com and on social media, I'm on Getter.
I'm on Getter Social.
steve bannon
You've got to watch John McLaughlin.
He's the best.
unidentified
At J-M-C-L-H-L-N.
steve bannon
You're signed up for 2024.
You're on.
When did he announce this?
unidentified
If the election was tomorrow, we would win in a landslide.
Trump's ahead of Biden 49-44.
He's ahead of Kamala Harris by eight points.
It would be a landslide.
People want him back today.
Yes.
steve bannon
So, well, what we got to do is announce first and then get on with it.
Okay, folks, love you being here.
We'll see you back here tomorrow at five o'clock in the Walmart.
Come in the morning if you're here at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning.
We're going to now continue on at 6 o'clock over at Frank's Beach.
We've got a whole packed house of crew.
I want to thank John McLaughlin.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
This guy was my wingman.
He rode shotgun with us in 16.
He's a tough hombre.
And I'll tell you one thing.
He always told the president exactly what was going on.
That's why we were highly confident in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan to roll the blue wall.
McLaughlin, you're a hero.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, see you back here at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning in the War Room.
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