June 23, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| Here's what you write in the book about viewing politics through the lens of faith. | ||
| Quote, political polarization has been a national reality for decades, but during 2020, the messy but often productive middle ground all but disappeared. | ||
| As a result, Americans were pressured to move further right or further left or be left behind. | ||
| Lines were drawn where lines were deemed unnecessary in the past. | ||
| Unfortunately, and to the point of this book, churches, church leaders, and prominent pastors took their cues from culture and vacated the middle. | ||
| To our shame, they added their voices to those of their secular counterparts. | ||
| Not wanting to be left out, and certainly not left behind, we entered the partisan fray. | ||
| What did what everyone else was doing, pretty much the way they were doing it? | ||
| We sided publicly with a party and a candidate and defended both, regardless. | ||
| And Andy, we see this dramatically. | ||
| I don't want to pick on this poor guy. | ||
| I'm glad he testified before Congress, but he said... | ||
| That Donald Trump undermined the Constitution, which was divinely inspired, and it would go against everything that he ever believed in. | ||
| And then they were asked, well, would you vote for him again? | ||
| He goes, yeah, I'd vote for him again. | ||
| And that's just, that's, okay, wait a second. | ||
| It undermines the work of Jesus Christ on earth, but you'll vote for him again. | ||
| I'm not picking on him. | ||
| My friends that I grew up with. | ||
| So many of my family members will say the same thing every day. | ||
| Yes, these people are deplorable. | ||
| We despise what they say. | ||
| They're hateful human beings, but we're going to vote for them. | ||
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unidentified
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Well, and again, the privilege we have as citizens, obviously, is to vote. | |
| And I tell everybody in our church, hey, never miss an opportunity to vote your law of Christ-informed conscience. | ||
| And you may vote left, and you may vote right, but at the end of the day, as Christians, I mean, the word Christ means king or messiah. | ||
| We are partisans of a king, and the moment that we become primarily partisans of a political candidate, We have abdicated, really we've abdicated our Christianity. | ||
| And as you know, you know this because of your background, problems are solved in the middle, in the messy middle, where people come together with their life experiences and we have those oh moments where we say, oh, I didn't Oh, I didn't know. | ||
| Oh, I didn't understand. | ||
| Oh, I always assumed. | ||
| And consequently, we can get things done. | ||
| But when the church on either side lines up behind a political party, as I said in the book, we vacate the middle. | ||
| And then, as you know, there's no nuance. | ||
| It's practically impossible to even have a conversation. | ||
| And the thing is, we are saved by grace. | ||
| If you read the Gospel, it's about grace. | ||
| It's Jesus saying, Judge not the EB, not judge. | ||
| Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy. | ||
| How often do we forgive? | ||
| Seven times? | ||
| No, seventy times, seven times. | ||
| That is the framework of the Gospels. | ||
| And yet, you get into politics, it's a zero-sum game. | ||
| There's an op-ed in this morning's USA Today entitled, We Fought to Defend Democracy. | ||
| This new threat to America now keeps us awake at night. | ||
| It is written by five retired U.S. | ||
| Air Force and Army generals and lieutenant generals, including CIA Director Michael Hayden, Lieutenant General James Clapper, General Stanley McChrystal. | ||
| And they write in part, quote, today, we harbor unprecedented concern for our country and for our democracy. | ||
| The nation we have defended for decades is in real peril. | ||
| For those of us devoted to protecting democracies abroad, there comes a time when our efforts seem overshadowed by the erosion of democracy here at home. | ||
| And for those of us focused on domestic security, the forces of autocracy now trump traditional foreign threats hands down. | ||
| The Safe and Fair Elections Pledge by Team Democracy asks all Americans to come together on an important piece of common ground. | ||
| A safe place where, regardless of political persuasion, we can agree to embrace the most fundamental cornerstones of our democracy by committing ourselves to elections that are both secure and accessible, and assuring the peaceful transition of power according to the rule of law. | ||
| We are proud to have signed this non-partisan declaration, and we encourage every local, state, and federal official to make this same commitment. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Morning, Joe. | ||
| Morning, Mika. | ||
| Getting old-time religion there. | ||
| We're going to talk a lot about that, about this democracy pledge. | ||
| Team Democracy! | ||
| Five guys from the administrative state. | ||
| We don't call it a deep state because it's up in your face. | ||
| You're in the War Room, Thursday, 23 June, Year of Our Lord 2022. | ||
| Let's go live to the steps of the Supreme Court, Star News Network, and former official and President Trump's OMB, Edie Heiple. | ||
| Edie, I know it's kind of crazy out there. | ||
| We hope you can pick us up. | ||
| Tell us what's going on. | ||
| It sounds quite loud. | ||
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unidentified
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Well, good morning, Steve. | |
| As you know, I'm here live at the Supreme Court, and as you can probably tell behind me, it's pretty loud here. | ||
| You know, I've been out here a couple of times since rumor of this decision first came down, and it's pretty typical. | ||
| There's a heavy presence of both pro-choice and pro-life protesters, and it's pretty loud behind me. | ||
| You know, the air is tense. | ||
| You can really feel it as we're getting into the final stretch here of when this decision might come down. | ||
| You can sense that everything's tense. | ||
| And even over the weekend, we saw papers littering the city of D.C. | ||
| put out by groups like Jane's Revenge, which is Really the domestic terrorist group on the pro-choice side calling for a night of rage when this decision is decided if it goes in favor of the side of life. | ||
| So I think everybody here is bracing for what's to come, whether the decision comes down today or if that's later this week. | ||
| I think people are bracing for what will likely be violent backlash. | ||
| And you know, Steve, you remember just as well as I do the summer of 2020, the rioting and violence and the cities burning down across the country. | ||
| Just how much more will that be when Roe v. Wade is overturned? | ||
| I think it's, I think it's a pretty, you know, it's going to be much more worse than that, given that abortion is a sacrament to many of these people. | ||
| Edie, why don't you hang right there? | ||
| We don't know if the decision is coming down today. | ||
| It's been rumored it may be early next week. | ||
| Edie, you're going to be there. | ||
| Just hang on. | ||
| I want to go to Mary Miller in Illinois, and we'll come right back to you. | ||
| That's Edie Heiple, Star News Network. | ||
| It's already building outside of the Supreme Court, and remember, some of these groups have said they're going to have a night of rage in Washington, D.C. | ||
| Drudge, in fact, Drudge's headline is the calm before the storm, and this city is really on tenterhooks right now. | ||
| Let's go to Illinois, Mary Miller. | ||
| There's a big Trump rally this weekend in Illinois. | ||
| We've got an incredible candidate for governor, and Mary Miller is the Trump-endorsed candidate for Congress. | ||
| Congressman Miller, talk to me about why are we in a situation where Nancy Pelosi drags her feet about the security bill to protect Supreme Court justices? | ||
| I mean, right now, I think a lot of people are concerned we could go back to 2020 when we had the riots in Washington, D.C. | ||
| in June and July. | ||
| People are very concerned about the security of the Capitol and the security just in downtown D.C. | ||
| Congressman Miller. | ||
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unidentified
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Well, this is typical of Nancy Pelosi. | |
| Number one, I want her to answer questions The American people deserve to know what actually happened. | ||
| We want to know why, number one, she refused the police protection that President Trump wanted. | ||
| And then the rhetoric that they've been promoting, they're promoting violence. | ||
| That's what they want. | ||
| This is part of their Basically, coup on the American way of life on our country. | ||
| And I tell people all the time, the greatest threat to the world is if our country goes down. | ||
| Congressman Milley just had, you know, we've got 14,000 hours of footage that Pelosi won't release. | ||
| We don't know about the intelligence briefings that they actually had. | ||
| Now you've got these five generals have just come and signed this thing. | ||
| Oh, we need this democracy pledge. | ||
| Our side is not only dedicated to democracy, you can tell even out in Illinois, there's a rising tide of MAGA, America First, of inclusive nationalism, African-Americans, Hispanics, Asian-Americans are coming to our side. | ||
| Why are they the ones that keep pushing this political violence and the fear, really the terror of violence? | ||
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unidentified
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You mean Nancy Pelosi? | |
| Why is Nancy Pelosi pushing this? | ||
| Yeah, Nancy Pelosi and all the Democrats. | ||
| They keep saying, oh, the Trump guys are the ones that are, they're political violence, but they're the ones that back the violence all the time. | ||
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unidentified
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Exactly. | |
| Well, they're trying to promote chaos in our country while they undermine our institutions and our constitution. | ||
| I mean, by defunding the police, releasing violent criminals, opening the border, dangerous rhetoric, calling for violence, it's all going together. | ||
| They want anarchy because they want to come in and crush us. | ||
| They want to use it as an excuse. | ||
| Why did President Trump endorse you? | ||
| You're actually, because they've had a redistricting out there, you're actually against, I think, up against another congressman. | ||
| Why did President Trump endorse you, and why is he inviting you to speak at his rally? | ||
| In fact, I think he's coming out there for Darren Bailey, who's running for governor, who's come from behind, and yourself. | ||
| I think the rally's really about you two guys. | ||
| Why is he so high on Mary Miller? | ||
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unidentified
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Well, this race is the biggest race in the country right now, incumbent versus incumbent. | |
| What it boils down to is MAGA versus establishment RINO. | ||
| The people in my district are very conservative. | ||
| They're strong supporters of President Trump, went 70% for President Trump. | ||
| And these people have experienced whiplash going from America first to America last. | ||
| They're awake. They aren't woke, but they're awake. And they are aware of how my opponent, Rodney Davis, has voted, what he supported. He voted for the January 6th commission. He's good friends and a supporter of Liz Cheney. Even after she was kicked out of leadership, he was still supporting her, saying he looked forward to supporting her for president. | ||
| He and Adam Kinzinger were supporting amnesty, which is a dog whistle for increased invasion. | ||
| on our southern border. | ||
| He's a red flag gun confiscation advocate. | ||
| He's been loud and proud on gun confiscation. | ||
| That is a big issue in my district. | ||
| People want their second amendment rights defended and President Trump knows that I'm the America first candidate. | ||
| I have seven children. | ||
| My children and their spouses all supported President Trump in 2016 and 2020. | ||
| Rodney Davis voted for Hillary in 2016. | ||
| He wouldn't say who he voted for in 2020. | ||
| He voted to certify, and then he accused those of us that wanted audits of spreading misinformation, and then he voted for the January 6 Commission. | ||
| I mean, it's a no-brainer why President Trump supports me and why I'm going to win the election. | ||
| The latest poll, I'm five points ahead. | ||
| I'm up against the swamp and tons of money. | ||
| He's running a smear campaign on me because he has nothing to run on. | ||
| There's places that people can go to find voting records. | ||
| He's one of the 10 most liberal Republicans in Congress. | ||
| Go check it out for yourself, people. | ||
| Liberty Score or CPAC, American Conservative Union, they score votes and you can see for yourself. | ||
| Tell us about this rally on Saturday. | ||
| I understand President Trump's really enthusiastic about it. | ||
| Tell us what time, where is it going to be, how do people get there, and everything about your campaign and your campaign site. | ||
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unidentified
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Yes. | |
| President Trump's holding the rally for me. | ||
| He wants to see me get across the line. | ||
| I belong to the Freedom Caucus. | ||
| We're the constitutional conservatives in D.C. | ||
| They know that once I'm elected that I'm going to be a sure vote for the Constitution, for the people, The rally starts at four. | ||
| It's in Quincy, Illinois. | ||
| You can go to Mary Miller for Congress to get information on how to sign up for tickets. | ||
| We're going to have tens of thousands of people there. | ||
| We've got momentum building. | ||
| People are very excited about President Trump. | ||
| Coming to the district, he is their hero. | ||
| They want the border secure. | ||
| They want energy independence. | ||
| They don't appreciate people that vote to send another $40 billion to Ukraine when we have our own borders open and raging inflation here. | ||
| That's the kind of politicians we need to get rid of. | ||
| That's why they hate me. | ||
| I'm the only Republican in Illinois to vote against sending another $40 billion to Ukraine. | ||
| This is what America Last looks like, and people are fed up. | ||
| Congressman Miller, we understand fully why Donald J. Trump has endorsed you, so thank you very much for coming to the show. | ||
| We're looking forward to a pregame on your rally on Saturday. | ||
| Steve Cortez, Steve Cortez, the entire posse raves about it, so good luck and we look forward to the rally on Saturday. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
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unidentified
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Thank you. | |
| Mary Miller, Congressman, that is a fire breather right there. | ||
| OK, we're going to have another one. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be very honored. | ||
| On the other side, we got Andrew Giuliani. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| There's a poll, a poll that is actually done before before the debate the other night, where Andrew Giuliani just bench pressed Lee Zeldin, just no doubt about it. | ||
| The poll was done beforehand. | ||
| It shows an absolute dead heat in this governor's primary, this intense governor's primary in the great state of New York, the Empire State. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to have Andrew Giuliani on the other side. | ||
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unidentified
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Everything's just beginning. | |
| For the games you want to play. | ||
| Bring it on and have a fight to the end. | ||
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unidentified
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Just watch and see. | |
| It's all started. | ||
| Everything's begun. | ||
| And you are over. | ||
| Cause we're taking down the CCP. | ||
| Spread the word all through Hong Kong We will fight till they're all gone We rejoice when there's no more Let's take down the T.T.B. | ||
| T.T.B. | ||
| Comment that is the textbook definition of a racist comment. | ||
| of a racist comment. | ||
| Do you agree? | ||
| The way I subjectively define racism, I agree as well. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not gonna defend his tweet. | ||
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unidentified
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It was ugly. | |
| The rhinos. | ||
| Do you know what a rhino is? | ||
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unidentified
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So if Donald Trump is making racist statements, you're saying he's a racist. | |
| So again, if... A rhino may be the lowest form of human life. | ||
| The way I subjectively define racism, I agree with Webb. | ||
| Okay, we have Andrew Giuliani. | ||
| Andrew, there was a poll out before the debate the other night that showed you in a dead heat, I think it was SurveyUSA, then you had a command performance in the debate. | ||
| Now this is a big controversy about whether Zeldin called Trump a racist. | ||
| Can you unpack this for us? | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, so a couple years back he went on CNN and they asked him very clearly, Do you define what President Trump said as racist? | |
| And you hear what he said. | ||
| I subjectively define it as yes, he said. | ||
| He said yes to the extent, right on CNN. | ||
| I asked him that on our debate on Monday night. | ||
| He obfuscated and then he said, I do not recall. | ||
| We posted the video and then he decided to get back at me by referencing Chris Farley playing me on SNL, which by the way, Steve, I have to say, The only character that's been played better in Trump world, let's say, is you, probably, than Chris Farley on Saturday Night Live. | ||
| I do it as a badge of honor. | ||
| The truth is very clear here. | ||
| I think in Lee Felden, we're going to get a flip-flopper, unfortunately, who is a sometimes-Trumper. | ||
| He's a Trumper when it's good for him. | ||
| My closing argument in this campaign is something very simple. | ||
| New York first and America first. | ||
| Lee Zeldin's closing argument is hugging Mike Pence. | ||
| I think that tells you everything that you need to know about this campaign and who's going to stand for America first and New York first value. | ||
| It's very clear. | ||
| It's Andrew Giuliani. | ||
| You were one of the one of the best because the White House has, you know, all levels of guys. | ||
| You were one of the best people to make things happen in the White House. | ||
| You have organization, but you actually have to have people to go get things done. | ||
| And you were you were known for that. | ||
| I think besides Navarro, I think you can count on one hand if you take out family members. | ||
| There's just a handful of people that stayed the entire time. | ||
| I mean, you're on the 16 campaign transition and then went right into the White House. | ||
| What I found particularly offensive about what Lee said, and I don't think Lee's a bad guy, but I think he's getting pretty desperate in this campaign. | ||
| I took offense, I know a lot of people around President Trump took offense of the snarky comments he made about the Trump White House. | ||
| Because you were one of the grinders there. | ||
| People should know things don't get done unless you have people like Andrew Giuliani, who you can load them up and say, hey, we need this done, we need this done, we need this done, and things get done. | ||
| And all the things you pulled off, these huge meetings, these conferences, everything that we needed to have. | ||
| to actually make happen, to really effectuate President Trump's policies. | ||
| One thing to have a media, you know, to have the cameras there, it's another thing to organize policy and to make things happen, whether it's at the border, whether it's about the tariffs, whether it's about getting political support for different policies. | ||
| What's your response to his snarky remarks about you in the White House? | ||
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unidentified
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Hey, look, they've been, I've had snarky remarks about me since I was seven years old. | |
| So if I couldn't handle that, then I'm not running for the right position, to be honest, Steve. | ||
| And I look at it this way. | ||
| He was distracting from the fact that he agreed with CNN's assessment that President Trump had made racist statements in the past. | ||
| So he can keep distracting from that if he wants to attack me personally. | ||
| That's his choice. | ||
| I'd rather point out the fact that Lee, unfortunately, is a lying flip-flopper and that I'm going to continue to focus on issues that are important for New Yorkers, like reducing crime in a record-setting fashion, the way that Rudy Giuliani did | ||
| In New York in the 1990s, making sure that our education that our kids are learning and that our parents are actually the primary stakeholders in our kids education and making sure that we repeal immediately on day one cashless bail and these absurd mandates that would not allow me in the room because I chose not to get this shot. | ||
| I think that's one of the things where New Yorkers could see you had guys in there running for governor. | ||
| that talk the talk. They said, we are going to get rid of these health mandates. And you have one guy who walked the walk, who was standing by our firefighters, our nurses, our teachers that lost their job because they chose not to get the shot. I'm the only one that wasn't allowed in the first two debate halls because I stand with them, not just in empty words like an empty suit politician, but like a leader. Why are you the best candidate to take on the, I guess I would | ||
| call the interim governor, Cuomo's replacement because he was forced to resign. | ||
| Why is Andrew Giuliani the best of the four gentlemen that are up there? | ||
| The other guys are up there. | ||
| Why are you the best? | ||
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unidentified
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Because clearly right now in Albany, we don't need somebody who's going to come in and tweak a few things and compromise with socialists. | |
| I said this in the debate the other night. | ||
| If you want me to sit down with somebody Who is, let's say, a Joe Manchin Democrat and have a conversation on how we make New York a better place? | ||
| I'll sit down with that person and have that discussion. | ||
| But the one thing I won't do, Steve, is compromise with the socialists. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| And I will make sure I go into Albany on day one, pushing for New York First policies, making New York the safest large state in the country again, repealing bail reform, firing district attorneys like Alvin Bragg who take Soros money and then choose not to prosecute and execute their oath of office, and then making sure we stand up for our parents, making sure we make New York an economic center again, like you were a member of Steve from the 90s and 2000. I know you spent time here when New York was | ||
| on the wrong side of this and you see New York going into the wrong direction. That's why you're so passionate about this, because you don't want to see New York return to the 80s like we're seeing right now. I can do that in all because just like President Trump in Washington DC, it's not going to be somebody that's going to go in there that's going to get changed by the swamp. It's going to be somebody that goes in there and changes the Albany swamp. That's me. | ||
| And we can't turn this country around. | ||
| I don't think it can turn. | ||
| New York City is descending into chaos and anarchy. | ||
| Bragg's got to go. | ||
| And I, quite frankly, think he ought to do an emergency order and do something about Eric Adams. | ||
| He's another disaster. | ||
| Andrew, this thing's heating up. | ||
| You're coming down to the wire. | ||
| How do people, where do they go? | ||
| How do they find out more about you? | ||
| Where's Rudy going to be? | ||
| All of that. | ||
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unidentified
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Well, go to SaveNY.org. | |
| We are going to be barnstorming the state in good old Teddy Roosevelt style, just like he barnstormed running for governor. | ||
| Back in the early 20th century of New York. | ||
| And actually, when I look at this thing, I really think we are in great position to win. | ||
| Just spoke with President Trump last night. | ||
| He loves the way the race is. | ||
| He's not too happy about the fact that Lee's final argument is going to Mike Pence for a hug on this. | ||
| I think he likes the maybe Bannon's and Michael Flynn's and Rudy Giuliani's of the world better. | ||
| Just your take. | ||
| Andrew, what's your social media? | ||
| How do people follow you 24-7? | ||
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unidentified
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We're going to be today in Staten Island. | |
| They call it Staten, Italy because it's really one of the conservative bastions of New York City. | ||
| And we're going to be in Nassau. | ||
| We're going to be in Suffolk. | ||
| We're going to be in Buffalo. | ||
| Rochester. | ||
| All across this great state. | ||
| We gotta bring New York back to glory, and we are gonna come in with the rec ball that Albany needs. | ||
| Andrew Giuliani, thanks for being here. Fight on. Look forward to checking with Bernie and Rudy later in the day. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
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unidentified
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Thank you, Steve. | |
| Okay, but can we play the spot? We have the spot of Heidi Ganahl. If not, can we get Heidi up? | ||
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unidentified
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I'm Heidi Ganahl, and I know Jared Polis has become a real pain in the gas for Colorado families. | |
| Gas is almost $5 a gallon thanks to the Polis premium. | ||
| In fact, Polis is Biden's point person for the New Green Deal here in Colorado. | ||
| As your governor, I will put energy workers back to work here in Colorado. | ||
| I will clean up our streets, and I will make it affordable again to live in our beautiful state. | ||
| I'm Heidi Ganahl, a mom on a mission to be your next governor, and I approve this message. | ||
| Okay, Heidi Ganahl joins us. | ||
| Heidi, let me ask you, there's a lot of controversy out in Colorado, obviously, with who could actually take on the sitting governor out there, which will be a throwdown. | ||
| But there's also, like, who's the most MAGA of the candidates? | ||
| Make your pitch to MAGA, that I am MAGA, because there's obviously a lot of controversy out there with the individual that's running against you. | ||
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unidentified
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Thanks, Steve. | |
| Well, I supported President Trump, obviously, in both elections, and I'm a fighter. | ||
| I am a mom. | ||
| I got four kids. | ||
| I've been on the front lines of fighting for education reform. | ||
| I also was the chair of the Board of Job Creators Network for many years and helped get the 2017 tax cuts across the finish line. | ||
| So behind the scenes, I get stuff done. | ||
| I roll up my sleeves, and most of all, I want to get our beautiful state of Colorado back. | ||
| We are in a heated race right now. | ||
| To take on Jared Polis. | ||
| And the Dems are so afraid of me that they're putting $3 million in over the last three weeks to make my opponent their opponent in the general election. | ||
| So they're picking their opponent, which, talk about election rigging, that's election rigging in our primary. | ||
| Back that up for a second. | ||
| You're saying Democrats are putting, dark money groups are putting money, I guess, into these PACs where they're taking out negative ads against you for the other candidate? | ||
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unidentified
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Yes, Steve. | |
| They've put over $3 million into TV ads that are running nonstop to help my opponent. | ||
| And then they're sending flyers out like this that look very, you know, copacetic, like the candidates sending them out. | ||
| But they've blasted Colorado with, I think, four or five rounds of these flyers now, all paid for by Progress Now, which is Jared Polis, our governor's organization that he founded. | ||
| A dark money group. | ||
| And so in Colorado, we called it the blueprint when they flipped Colorado from red to blue back in the 2000s with four billionaires funding it. | ||
| And they're doing it again right now. | ||
| It's blueprint 2.0. | ||
| But the good news is that I beat the blueprint a few years ago. | ||
| I'm the only statewide elected Republican right now. | ||
| I beat one of Jared Polis's right hand gals in a statewide election. | ||
| And we'll do it again this fall. | ||
| So, real quickly, compare and contrast, in 30 seconds, you versus, I think it's Lopez, your competitor. | ||
| Why are you more MAGA and should get MAGA support than he should? | ||
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unidentified
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Well, I helped Donald Trump get the tax cuts done in 2017. | |
| I'm a mom on a mission. | ||
| I've been a warrior for school choice and charter schools. | ||
| I'm the daughter of a police officer, so I'm a law and order candidate. | ||
| I'm a strong defender of the Second Amendment. | ||
| I'm pro-life. | ||
| I'll rip up this disgusting abortion bill here in Colorado once I'm elected. | ||
| And most of all, I'm going to give power back to the people of Colorado and get the government out of our way. | ||
| We have amazing, amazing candidates on the ballot this election, and we're going to win this fall if we don't let the Democrats mess in our primary and steal the election. | ||
| Heidi, real quickly, what's your campaign site? | ||
| HeidiForGov.com, and I'm on all the social media platforms at Heidi Ganahl. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Hadi Ghanal, thank you for joining us. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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| Let's go back to the Supreme Court. | ||
| I don't think we're going to get the Dobbs decision today, like I kind of predicted. | ||
| I think it's going to be next week that Justice is going to get out of town. | ||
| Let's go to Edie Hippel, Star News Network, formerly in the Trump White House. | ||
| Edie, get us up to date. | ||
| By the way, what's the crowd like? | ||
| Because this is just a preamble of what's going to happen. | ||
| What's the crowd like? | ||
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The crowd's pretty typical. | |
| You know, I've been out here a couple of times this summer since the Dobbs case was on the docket. | ||
| And, you know, the people who are out here are pretty angry, of course, on the pro-choice side, making their voices heard very loudly. | ||
| You saw numerous grotesque displays over the weekend and continuing into the week. | ||
| of just how passionately they feel about the possibility of abortion going back to the states. | ||
| Right now, four cases have been decided, leaving eight remaining. | ||
| Whether or not Dobbs is going to come down today is unclear. | ||
| You know, yesterday the Supreme Court made a pretty unique move to add another day this week to which cases would be released. | ||
| So whether or not it's today, tomorrow, or Monday remains to be seen. | ||
| Edie, you hang out. | ||
| We're going to come back to you. | ||
| Edie Heiple with Star News Network. | ||
| This town is on, you know, drudge has got the quiet before the storm. | ||
| As soon as the Dobbs comes out, James Revenge and some of these other groups have committed to a promise. | ||
| They're going to have a night of rage. | ||
| Let's go to, I'll tell you what, let's play the cold open for Steve Cortez. | ||
| I'm going to bring in Steve Cortez. | ||
| I like the idea of a gas tax holiday right now when people are hurting. | ||
| My only problem is I don't know that it actually will get passed on to consumers because maybe people running gas stations will say, OK, well, we'll just we'll just keep the money ourselves. | ||
| What say you? | ||
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Well, it's entirely possible. | |
| And also, not just me, University of Pennsylvania Wharton School of Business back in April, Joe, did a study about this and said, you know, we could have as little as 40% that's actually passed through. | ||
| So if you just do the basic math, 18 cents a gallon, let's say 40% is passed through, the average American uses 50 gallons of gasoline a month, you're looking at a household savings of about $4. | ||
| A month. | ||
| Maybe five to ten bucks a month. | ||
| I mean, I'm not saying that doesn't matter at all, but that's very small money in comparison to how everything else is going. | ||
| I think patriots real wages are crashing lower at the same time, car prices are soaring to So, let's look at car affordability by the numbers in a Chalk Talk that is powered by Getter. | ||
| The average car payment in America just surged to an all-time high above $700 per month. | ||
| Now, let's say you don't want that payment. | ||
| You want to buy that car outright. | ||
| A good way to look at affordability is how many weeks of work does it take at a median wage to afford the average price new car in America? | ||
| Well, for the past decade, under both Presidents Obama as well as Trump, This range was 32 to 36 weeks. | ||
| That's how much you had to work to buy a new car. | ||
| Now it has absolutely surged higher to an all-time high. | ||
| 41 weeks of work. | ||
| An extra five weeks of work because of Joe Biden to afford a new car. | ||
| Okay, let's go to Steve Kortes. | ||
| First off, explain Morning Joe. | ||
| Did they say that Wharton said that he's pushing for a 90-day suspension of the federal gas tax? | ||
| I guess it is. | ||
| Did they say it was four bucks a month in somebody's pocket? | ||
| Is that what Wharton came up with, sir? | ||
| Yeah, no, I mean, literally, this is, listen, Steve, this is, right now, the American consumer, American citizens, have the equivalent of an absolute economic hatchet wound, okay? | ||
| And this is Joe Biden saying, oh, I'm gonna pretend I'm your mom and kiss the boo-boo and make it all better. | ||
| No, kissing the boo-boo with a 90-day suspension of the gas tax, putting literally tens of dollars over the duration, perhaps, into people's pockets, is not going to remotely change the underlying systemic pain that has been caused By Joe Biden, along with collaborator Republicans in Washington, D.C. | ||
| The injury to our economy right now, as I showed there in that chalk talk, you know, to put this in tangible terms. | ||
| So we have car payments, Steve, at an all-time high, never been above $700 a month on average before. | ||
| At the same time, We have rents, apartment rents, for the first time ever above $2,000 a month. | ||
| Now, those kinds of increases, Steve, if we had real wages galloping higher, as we did under Donald Trump, it might be understandable. | ||
| You might say, hey, good trade-off, fine. | ||
| I'm paying more for my rent, but I'm making dramatically more in real terms. | ||
| When I say real terms, I mean adjusted for inflation. | ||
| Instead, what we have right now is crashing real wages with soaring prices for the necessities of life. | ||
| Not talking about the luxuries here, Steve. | ||
| The necessities of life. | ||
| Things like a place to live, groceries to eat, and a car to drive. | ||
| So, the American consumer is in an incredible vice right now. | ||
| A vice that has been created by terrible policy, by created crises. | ||
| And those crises won't be solved by kissing the boo-boo with a temporary 90-day suspension of cents a gallon. | ||
| That's going to put 10, 20 bucks in your pocket. | ||
| It's obscene how much time they've spent in the media talking about this. | ||
| This shows you how feckless and hapless he is. | ||
| The other thing they keep talking about is employment is so great, but that's because it's just the return of aggregate demand and they've jacked up so much spending. | ||
| Talk to me about, there's some more bad news for the underlying real economy that just came out. | ||
| Mr. Cortez? | ||
| Unfortunately, and you know, Steve, I hate to do this, but listen, we've got to inform the American people on just what is going on. | ||
| And by the way, only when we can convince them of just how bad things are, and that they're likely to get worse given current trends, can we then reform things, right? | ||
| I mean, admit the problem, and then fix the problem. | ||
| And unfortunately, just as you were going to the air today, we got more bad news, and this is really important. | ||
| This is on the PMI, Purchasing Managers Index, and this is for manufacturing. | ||
| This is the flash PMI. | ||
| Expectations for the United States were that it was going to come in at 56. | ||
| Instead, it came in at only 52. | ||
| Now, that's a massive MISD, because economists typically can pretty accurately gauge where these numbers are going to come in. | ||
| So, that's a huge MISD. | ||
| Here's what I think is almost as important. | ||
| The Reuters reporting on this. | ||
| I didn't get it up on my social media because it's literally just came out, but let me read you the Reuters reporting. | ||
| And mind you, Reuters does the bidding of the establishment everywhere, okay? | ||
| In the United States, around the world. | ||
| They defend Davos at all costs. | ||
| They defend the Biden regime. | ||
| Here's what even Reuters admitted, and I'm quoting from the article. | ||
| The headline is there. | ||
| From the article, manufacturing growth is slowing worldwide, while the growing risk of a US recession poses a new threat to the global economy. | ||
| In other words, Steve, even Reuters is admitting that the U.S. | ||
| has become, you know, from a position of economic leadership, right, where it was the strength leading the rest of the world, we have become one of the biggest risks to the rest of the world. | ||
| And I can't emphasize this enough, Steve, what we have going on right now, that I think a lot of Americans maybe don't realize, is we have China crashing into an economic ditch. | ||
| The very same time that the United States has fallen off a cliff. | ||
| We've never had that before, Steve. | ||
| In the 07, 08, 09 recession, as painful and bad as that was in the United States, China was able to power through. | ||
| Now, largely through a mountain of debt and I think a lot of very dishonest bookkeeping. | ||
| But nonetheless, their growth sustained. | ||
| So what we have right now is every major economy in the world at once, in synchronicity, crashing. | ||
| And it's a far more dangerous scenario because of that reality. | ||
| By the way, I think PMI is one of the only true, correct me if I'm wrong, in China, that's one of the few numbers besides the railcars. | ||
| There's two numbers, the railcars, how the trains move, and the PMI number. | ||
| Everything else is totally made up. | ||
| Tell people what PMI stands for, why is it so important, and why do professionals that trade in the pits follow this number closely? | ||
| Right, so Purchasing Managers Index, PMI, and you're very right. | ||
| Listen, number one, it's an apples-to-apples comparison because PMIs are taken all over the world using basically the same methodology. | ||
| And that's not true of a lot of other economic statistics. | ||
| So, countries will gauge inflation in incredibly different ways. | ||
| Even here in the United States, we now gauge inflation from the official government level at a very different way than we used to. | ||
| And I think really to the detriment of telling the truth, I think inflation is actually far higher than 8.6%, which is bad enough by the way. | ||
| But when you look at PMIs, privately taken surveys around the world, privately taken even in China. | ||
| So I think it gives us an actual accurate read, maybe not totally accurate, just given the overall problems of getting good data out of China, but far better than trusting Beijing and their government statistics. | ||
| So number one, apples to apples comparison among countries. | ||
| And then number two for China specifically, one of the few gauges that you can really rely on. | ||
| And I can tell you from my 25 years on Wall Street, when it came to data out of China, PMI is the one that you wanted to watch. | ||
| And what we see right now, unfortunately, you know, as I Have to emphasize is the U.S. | ||
| is absolutely rolling over and at the same time, the second biggest economy in the world is rolling over probably even more dramatically. | ||
| That only raises the risks for the United States. | ||
| So Steve, as dire as the situation is right now, and it's terrible, It's likely to get worse and perhaps significantly worse. | ||
| Now, I don't want to just be gloom and doom though, so what do we do about it? | ||
| Well, one thing is elect America first candidates in these upcoming elections. | ||
| We've got a slew of elections into next week, a slew of primary elections. | ||
| Do not send back to Congress Squish Republicans, for example, who are going to vote for things like $40 billion, a mountain of money, to go to Ukraine. | ||
| A mountain of money that we do not have to escalate a war which is worsening a pre-existing inflation crisis created by Biden and Pelosi and McConnell. | ||
| Do not send those kinds of people back to Washington. | ||
| If you're struggling right now, and almost all Americans of modest means are struggling, and we see it in the confidence surveys, University of Michigan confidence survey to an all-time low. | ||
| Steve, for a survey that goes back to the 1950s, it's never been lower than this, not during Vietnam, not during 9-11, I mean never in American history, not the housing crisis, not the CCP virus, never has confidence been lower and it's understandable and I get that but I also want it to be a call to action because we can't just wallow in that misery. | ||
| We have to figure out what is the way upward and outward What are the policies? | ||
| What kind of human agency can we embrace to get out of this and to return America to the trajectory that we were on before the CCP virus? | ||
| We know it works. | ||
| We know it's economic populist nationalism. | ||
| And a big part of populist nationalism is not encouraging and funding needless foreign wars, particularly foreign wars which drive up the very inflation which is right now so painful for Americans. | ||
| I want to get back to this in a second. | ||
| You're going to stay with me for one more segment. | ||
| But I want to connect to, I want to connect consumer, because they're sitting there going, well, Biden's policies, you know, we've got a full employment, you've got, you know, you got everybody's work, their jobs everywhere, the great resignation. | ||
| And I'm sitting there going, are you fools? | ||
| Look over the other side of the hill. | ||
| If you combine PMI, which tells you at the manufacturing level, with consumer confidence, which tells people they're going to have the short arms, they're not going to want to spend for the additional things that they absolutely can't afford, that means there's a big tsunami of layoffs that are coming. | ||
| Steve Cortez, am I wrong in that assumption? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And Steve, listen, for Joe Biden to claim that there's been job creation is an absurdity. | ||
| It's one of his many lies. | ||
| It's a lie just like the Russia hoax, a lie just like when he lied about the Charlottesville hoax. | ||
| It's a lie. | ||
| It's not job creation. | ||
| People are simply coming back to work after an economic cataclysm that was an epidemiological Pearl Harbor from the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| If anything, too, the percentages in terms of the unemployment rate are artificially low because so many people have dropped out of the workforce for various reasons, but including The onerous VAX mandates. | ||
| You know, American Airlines announced just today, Steve, announced it is dropping service to four cities for a lack of pilots. | ||
| It's dropping service to Islip and Ithaca, New York, Toledo, Ohio, and Dubuque, Iowa. | ||
| What do you think it's going to do to those smaller cities that don't have a lot of airlines and don't have a lot of flights? | ||
| Well, this is because of the VAX. | ||
| This is a consequence of the VAX mandates. | ||
| So, my point is, overall, the employment situation has artificially looked okay, but in fact, the employment situation is about to roll over as well. | ||
| It's inevitable. | ||
| We're about to go off a cliff. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Cortez is going to be with us on the other side. | ||
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| Steve, we start this show with these five generals that have done this democracy pledge. | ||
| Now they want to do democracy pledges. | ||
| Hey, I tell you what, hold your pledge and wait for the evening, late in the evening on the 8th of November of this coming year. | ||
| Because you're going to get a democracy suppository. | ||
| So, we're going to win at the polls. | ||
| We don't need your pledge. | ||
| Here's what we need. | ||
| We need patriots to turn out and vote in record numbers. | ||
| And I've got to tell you, Cortez, what you've done in Illinois, in the War Room posse, to get in back of these candidates is nothing short of breathtaking. | ||
| And I think maybe if you get Mastriano come from behind out of nowhere that blew the doors off in Pennsylvania. | ||
| I think you see the same momentum building in back of Andrew Giuliani in New York. | ||
| What you've done is breathtaking with these candidates in Illinois having, what, $30, $40 million of negative ads dropped on them. | ||
| And it's important for people to get in back of these MAGA candidates. | ||
| Walk me through Illinois for a second before we go back to economics. | ||
| You bet, 100%. | ||
| And let me just say first a quick word, Steve, because you mentioned those intelligence chiefs claiming that they're standing up for democracy. | ||
| You know, one of the signers was General Hayden, the very same Hayden, by the way, who literally lied, completely lied to the American people. | ||
| His CIA literally hacked the Senate Oversight Committee's computers. | ||
| I mean, think about that. | ||
| It's really astounding that these intelligence chiefs who lied to the American people also lied under oath in front of the American people. | ||
| about the NSA spying on millions of Americans, said that that wasn't going on, when in fact, we know that it was. | ||
| So for them to now come up and tell us that they are somehow the guardians of democracy is totally laughable. | ||
| But listen, Steve, you know, I do want to tell you from, and from, I've been all over the country campaigning, meeting deplorables everywhere. | ||
| Everyone mentions War Room, very first thing. | ||
| The power of this show is just absolutely unparalleled, and not just getting people informed, but at getting them to action. | ||
| So many people came up to me and said, I'm on the school board now, or I'm running for school board, I'm a precinct captain, I was a delegate to the Indiana Convention. | ||
| So many people, they did that, and said, I wasn't into politics before, but they have been awakened, this awakened army as you talk about. | ||
| It's amazing, and patriotic populism is on the march. | ||
| So as bad as things are economically, and again, we are never going to sugarcoat it for the American people, they deserve to know the truth of what's going on. | ||
| Not spin and narrative, but actual numbers, okay? | ||
| The data doesn't lie, the price doesn't lie, right? | ||
| Price is truth. | ||
| So we need to tell them the truth, and we need to warn them about where things are likely to head. | ||
| But the good news, and this is the flip side of it, The good news is the activism out there right now in the field. | ||
| It is incredible. | ||
| It's palpable. | ||
| And we're seeing these results. | ||
| And we're going to see more to come. | ||
| So we all just have to continue to work. | ||
| We've got to be as informed as possible. | ||
| We've got to hustle. | ||
| And we have to have eyes on the process. | ||
| That's what I keep telling people, too. | ||
| Because a lot of these patriots, Steve, they very understandably ask me, is any of this going to matter? | ||
| Or are we going to have the election stolen from us come November? | ||
| And I tell all of them, listen, we still unfortunately have Very flawed processes in almost all of these states, and that has to be fixed. | ||
| Unfortunately, we're not going to fix that for this November. | ||
| But what we can do for this November is eyes on the process. | ||
| If we have every single poll watcher position filled, every single election judge position filled, it is far, far more difficult. | ||
| For the opponents to pull off any kind of malfeasance when there are thousands and thousands of eyes on the process, which I think is one of the reasons that we had such a fantastic result in the Commonwealth of Virginia last year. | ||
| And it's largely due to you and what you and Precinct Strategy process have done in the Commonwealth where you had 95% literally almost every single volunteer position filled, eyes on the process, and in a deeply blue state, guess what? | ||
| America First Republicans swept all of the statewide offices. | ||
| I think that's another reason for us to be optimistic. | ||
| We swept Virginia last year, and things weren't even nearly as bad last year as they are now in the United States economically. | ||
| Nearly won New Jersey last year, one of the bluest states in the nation. | ||
| That tells me, Steve, that this year, particularly with things far worse economically, It tells me that everywhere is in play. | ||
| It tells me that Illinois is absolutely in play. | ||
| It's one of the reasons I'm working so hard for Darren Bailey there. | ||
| And I think he's not only going to win this primary and overcome an oligarch, Ken Griffin, Kenny G, as I refer to him, who thought he could buy the primary with a puppet, pretend conservative candidate. | ||
| Not only are we going to win the primary, but he's also going to beat that corrupt, trustafarian J.B. | ||
| Pritzker in the general election. | ||
| And one of the main reasons is inflation. | ||
| Because, Steve, it's a national phenomenon, of course, Mostly created by the by the corruption and the policy mistakes of Washington DC But it's far worse in blue locations in blue states like Illinois to be specific here again I always like numbers to be specific gasoline in Pritzker's, Illinois is on average 68 cents a gallon higher than than the combination of all the neighboring states of Illinois. | ||
| I mean, think about that. | ||
| It's 84 cents a gallon higher than Missouri next door. | ||
| So inflation is a terrible problem everywhere, but it's way worse in Illinois. | ||
| It's way worse in Nevada, in California, in these states that are run by Democrats. | ||
| If we make that case powerfully to the American people on tangible kitchen table issues, we're going to have unbelievably surprising election results come November. | ||
| We're going to actually go to Colartino. | ||
| Peter's going to join us in the next hour. | ||
| Also, we're going to go to Georgia. | ||
| There's a big press conference about Brad Roethlisberger and about what happened in that primary. | ||
| Real quickly, Ken Griffin and Larry Fink, these oligarchs, these Wall Street types that have owned the Republican Party, they ain't giving it up easily, Brother Cortez. | ||
| These guys got a lot of money to throw around. | ||
| We shouldn't expect that they would. | ||
| Steve, the system has worked magnificently well for them, right? | ||
| I mean, they have amassed fortunes that are, you know, almost hard to fathom, right? | ||
| From a corrupt, globalist system that works for their benefit to the detriment of working-class Americans. | ||
| But, you know, of course we shouldn't naively expect that they're just going to say, oh sure, you guys can have the keys back now, I'll give them to the deplorables. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| They're using every trick possible Carl Rove, who is often their political hack, he wrote an article in the Wall Street Journal coming after these America First candidates, including Darren Bailey, trying to claim that they're, quote, fringe. | ||
| Well, there's nothing fringe about the America First movement and the deplorables who believe in it. | ||
| But Carl Rove is the dutiful political hack servant of those oligarchs. | ||
| Look, of course, they're putting up a massive fight. | ||
| No one said this would be easy. | ||
| You most of all, right? | ||
| To deconstruct the administrative state. | ||
| We are fighting decades and decades, unfortunately, of precedent and a lot of economic power. | ||
| But we have to do it now, Steve, or we won't have this option later. | ||
| We will devolve into a full oligarchy. | ||
| I really think America is at the precipice of being an oligarchy right now. | ||
| If we don't pull this back in 2022 and 2024, I'm not sure we have the option later. | ||
| Uh, real quickly, your social media, Getter, all of it, how'd they get to Cortez? | ||
| Yeah, please follow me at Steve. | ||
| I have a new, on Getter, I have a new article up on my sub stack. | ||
| It links there. | ||
| And I'm at Cortez Steve on Twitter. | ||
| At Steve on Getter. | ||
| I gotta think about that for a second. | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| You deserve it. | ||
| You're the workhorse. | ||
| I'm the show pony. | ||
| Cortez, thank you brother. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Always love having you on. | ||
| Thank you, my man. | ||
| Steve Cortez. | ||
| Okay, we're gonna, it's gonna get a little crazy in the next hour. | ||
| Because we're hitting it all. | ||
| Just strap in. |
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