April 15, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| He'll be with you later today. | ||
| Just an honor to be here on Good Friday. | ||
| We have a packed show, including starting off soon with our crack correspondent Ben Harnwell in the Vatican. | ||
| I'll give you a preview of what we're doing today. | ||
| We're going to dig a little deeper into the Twitter Wars and Elon Musk. | ||
| I'm going to give you my take, game this whole thing out, and kind of offer you kind of where I think It's going to be going. | ||
| We'll be talking with with Darren Beatty, the great Darren Beatty, about some of this in the second hour of the show. | ||
| We're going to visit with a couple of key candidates at the grassroots that are critical to taking back this country in the name of Trumpism. | ||
| So stay tuned for a really good show. | ||
| But let's go right now. | ||
| Honored to have Ben Harnwell at the Vatican on Good Friday. | ||
| You can only get that on The War Room. | ||
| Ben, what's going on at the Vatican today? | ||
| Is the Pope tweeting out all his blessings? | ||
| Well, he's certainly tweeting. | ||
| He doesn't stop, Dr. Navarro. | ||
| Good morning to you. | ||
| Yes, I'm here at St. | ||
| Peter's Piazza, right in front of the Vatican, and today is Good Friday. | ||
| This is the day that Christians By tradition, commemorate the crucifixion of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. | ||
| And in fact, as we've been accompanying our followers throughout Holy Week, first with Maundy Thursday yesterday, Good Friday today, Holy Saturday tomorrow, in the run-up to The most important day of the Christian calendar, Easter Day itself on Sunday. | ||
| What many people don't realise is that this liturgy was all effectively one up until about the 4th century, when the Last Supper, the Crucifixion and the Resurrection of Christ were all celebrated in one single evening on Saturday evening. | ||
| And then with the passage of time, these came out and were dedicated into being specific liturgies in and of their own right. | ||
| The Good Friday liturgy, exceptionally, at least in the Catholic tradition, there's no mass today, but there will be the commemoration of the crucifixion and readings around that. | ||
| Ben, what is the state of Christianity in Europe these days? | ||
| There's so many secular things going on. | ||
| They have in Europe their own illegal immigration, mass invasion as well. | ||
| What are the cross currents of that? | ||
| What do you read on the street? | ||
| Is Christianity being born again or is it dying there in Europe? | ||
| It's difficult to say. | ||
| There are signs that are basically contradictory and cut in either direction. | ||
| In one sense, especially under the pontificates of John Paul II, and to some extent as well Benedict XVI, there was a massive growth of youth movements, of the lay movements as well, of lay Catholics, Catholics that aren't under religious vows and they're not ordained. | ||
| These things were flowering and that was giving a lot of hope even here in continental Europe where the secularism That has been increasingly predominant since the 60s onwards, had really sort of pushed the Catholic Church back, and not only the Catholic Church by the way, in fact also a lot of the mainstream Protestant denominations, pushed them back into a corner. | ||
| And under J.E.P. | ||
| too, as he's popularly known, that kickback against militant secularism had been underway and quite successful, that 26 and a half year long pontificate. | ||
| These days, however, probably because of Pope Francis is extremely secularist and worldly tack. | ||
| A lot of the growth that we have seen in those lay movements and the youth movements has tapered off a little bit. | ||
| And I think it would really be now to the next pontificate that people are looking to see what kind of renaissance the Catholic Church is able to produce for the 21st century. | ||
| Ben, let's go from the Christ to the Antichrist. | ||
| I'm talking about Xi Jinping and lockdowns in Shanghai. | ||
| For the War Room audience, this is a story that has tremendous direct impact on you because of the effect it's going to have on on the supply chain. We just came out with a double digit producer price index inflation and now it appears we're in the midst of one of the big factory floors of the world essentially locked down. Ben, what's the latest from Shanghai? That's | ||
| absolutely right, Dr. Navarro. | ||
| Well, there are about 373 million people under lockdown in China to one degree or another. | ||
| And obviously what we're expecting, and we've been covering this on a day-by-day basis here on the War Room, what we're expecting is massive supply chain shocks that are going to trickle on through and really wallop us in the rest of the West. | ||
| Now there is a video that Denver has, I don't know if they're going to be able to play it, which is sort of an illustration of the degree of fear and terror that now exists amongst, there it is, there's the video, amongst everyday Chinese folk who are starting to, and this is really quite exceptional now given the nature of domestic Chinese politics, there are people that are really starting to confront the Chinese state full-on | ||
| In broad light of day, under telephone cameras, and they're resisting. | ||
| And one of the reasons that they're resisting, perhaps the most important reason, is that people are starving now. | ||
| Shanghai's been locked down for about a month, just a little under a month. | ||
| And that's a city of 25, 26 million people. | ||
| And the state simply isn't able to do what the private sector can do. | ||
| Basically without even thinking about it. | ||
| And that's basically ensure that food is there for everybody who wants to work and pay for it. | ||
| Because the city, the financial capital of China, has been shut down, there are stories now of basically elderly people locked in their flats and they haven't eaten, literally haven't eaten for three days, showing video footage on the social media, which hasn't been banned because the government can't keep up with it. | ||
| Of people. | ||
| Ben, quick question here. | ||
| Is there any transparency on the casualties from the virus in Shanghai? | ||
| What puzzles me, we're at a state, you know, I was in the White House when this thing first hit. | ||
| We didn't know exactly what we had. | ||
| We didn't know what the mortality rate was. | ||
| We didn't know what the contagion rate, the so-called R0 rate was. | ||
| What we've learned over time is that we can live with the virus without severe disruptions of our own economy and society. | ||
| It took us a long time to get to that. | ||
| We had to fight through the Fauciites of this world. | ||
| But why is the Chinese Communist Party so adamant about locking people up rather than than seeking herd immunity like a Sweden or now United States. Ben, do you have any insight at all? Do they have a higher death rate? What's going on? | ||
| Well, the first reason is the official reason, which is that China has been pursuing a zero tolerance policy with regards to COVID. So you take a city like Shanghai, you have one or two people that test positive and they close the whole thing down just basically like that as soon as they are able to. And | ||
| And one of the reasons is that they've locked themselves into doing that, because their propaganda has been so overwhelming, they don't really have any choice but to follow through with that, because if they don't, everyone will see that the previous two years have been somewhat under a non-existing pretext. | ||
| The difference, however, between now and two years ago is that we have some idea, anecdotal evidence, we know, we talk to friends and family, we sort of have a far stronger idea of just how dangerous or not dangerous this virus is, whereas two years ago, Nobody really knew. | ||
| We just had to take it to some degree on face value from the experts. | ||
| And one of the points that is coming across now, as people are protesting publicly and resisting the CCP, openly using social media, is that they're saying that the consequences of the lockdown in China far exceed the actual threat of the CCP coronavirus itself. | ||
| And this is what people are openly saying. | ||
| Yeah, well, that was a lesson we learned early on in the Trump administration. | ||
| I remember, I think it was in April of 2020, I did an interview with the New York Times and kind of laid out the cost-benefit calculus. | ||
| The Fauciites, the Redfields at CDC, the FDA, Janet Woodcock, they only looked at the problem through the lens Of how many people might go to the hospital and die directly from the virus. | ||
| And there was no sensitivity to the health impacts of locking people up. | ||
| Depression, suicide, alcoholism, all sorts of abuse. | ||
| And then also on top of that, all of the economic impacts. | ||
| The thing that sticks in the back of my mind every time I see the Chinese do this, I mean, you said that nobody knew at the beginning what we were up against. | ||
| I maintain that the Chinese Communist Party knew exactly what we were up against because with the help of Tony Fauci's funding, the CCP created the virus at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, likely as a bio weapon, and whether it escaped or was intentionally released is a question to be named later. | ||
| But the point is that do they know something we don't at this point about what they actually The other thing I want to just reflect quickly on, and then I want you to go to Macron, Is there any chatter about the fact that the vaccine that the Communist Party forced on the people of China may be contributing to the latest outbreaks? | ||
| Is there anything to that at all? | ||
| Anything? | ||
| There's certainly the talk that that is the case, but it's difficult to know. | ||
| We really need independent scientists, people like Dr Malone, to go in there with test tubes and analysis kits and do their own research. | ||
| Because sadly there are too many intermediary levels between what's happening on the ground and the clots that people are allegedly dying of and then what coroners are coming out with. | ||
| And obviously the CCP is the only mediator of information. | ||
| So in a certain sense... By the way, is it just Shanghai or how many other cities are engaged in this lockdown? | ||
| Well, yesterday, the figure for the last day, which I had figures available, there were, I think, 87 cities which are now under lockdown, which is a doubling from the day before. | ||
| Do me a favor, Ben. | ||
| We've got two minutes in this segment left. | ||
| First, do your social, and then you can go to the end of the block on Macron. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'll do my social now and then do Macron? | ||
| Is that what you want? | ||
| Okay, so if anyone wants to follow further what I've just been briefly alluding to here on the show, come and follow me on Getter. | ||
| I'm exclusively on Getter, and my profile is simply my surname, Hanwell. | ||
| I'm there at Hanwell throughout the day, 24-7, with analysis and breaking down the developments. | ||
| In the time that I have left… 60 seconds on the crown. | ||
| I can do 60 seconds. | ||
| It's almost too much to talk about this guy. | ||
| As we've been saying really from the beginning, Macron is a globalist, but he's not as incompetent as a lot of globalists are. | ||
| And if Denver is able to put out the quote, That we had earlier. | ||
| This is an article in Zero Hedge. | ||
| And Zero Hedge have picked up what The War Room did about three days ago when we talked about this. | ||
| Macron has now joined Marine Le Pen in basically trying to not alienate Russia from the international world. | ||
| Now they're going about this in slightly different ways. | ||
| But the key point is that Russia is a country that we need to work with. | ||
| We don't want to push it into China's sphere of orbit. | ||
| But we want to try and have a bridge of dialogue there. | ||
| And I close with this point, Dr. Navarro. | ||
| The important thing to notice is that now both presidential candidates in France, which after Germany is the most important member state in the European Union, both presidential candidates now have a policy which is directly opposed to that of Joe Biden, which is one of de-escalation rather than escalation. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, you are a treasure, sir. | ||
| Have a great weekend there in the Vatican. | ||
| It's a very special place. | ||
| Be right back. | ||
| Peter Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| lies about health care, that spread lies about elections, election falsehoods, that allows slander. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, it's just really, it's the greatest argument to radically change Section 230 to make sure that companies that spread hatred, that companies that slander other people are actually held accountable. | ||
| And that we don't, we don't, we don't put a protective bubble wrap around these billionaires that own social media companies. | ||
| So yeah, in a sense, I hope he takes it over because, yeah, I'm all for free speech. | ||
| Let's have free speech. | ||
| But let's stop protecting the billionaires, the trillionaires that run these companies that can spread hate speech, that can spread lies, that can do the sort of thing that nobody else can do without being hauled into court. | ||
| I'm all for the free market. | ||
| So I just want to know, Why doesn't the free market apply to Facebook? | ||
| Why doesn't the free market apply to Facebook or Twitter? | ||
| Why doesn't the free market apply to other social media platforms? | ||
| The free market needs to apply to those platforms. | ||
| So, alright, when people say they're for free speech, I'm for free speech. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| But let's make sure it's free. | ||
| Let's make sure it's free. | ||
| Let's make sure we don't have the billionaire's social media Silicon Valley protection plan in place. | ||
| Let's actually have free, unadulterated speech. | ||
| And if people spread lies, spread hate speech, spread slander, they're held accountable as if, oh I don't know, they were Americans. | ||
| You're killing me morning, Joe. | ||
| You're just killing me. | ||
| Peter Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Let's spend the next 10 minutes or so kind of going over this Twitter story. | ||
| Let's start with this Section 230 issue. | ||
| It's kind of deep in the weeds, but it's the protection That the social media oligarchs have from being sued for what's on their platforms. | ||
| And what obviously Morning Joe and the left always do is they speak with forked tongues depending on what the situation is. | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
| Morning Joe, making that particular speech back during the 2020 election when the Trump folks were getting censored, shadow banned, this, that, and the other thing when they were taking Trump off. | ||
| But it would be nice if this bid by Musk unified both sides of the political aisle To reform Section 230 in a way where the Facebookites, the Twitterites, the Google, YouTube, the really bad social media oligarchs engage in this deplatforming and censorship. | ||
| Let's start with why we care about whether Musk takes over Twitter. | ||
| If you think about the 2020 presidential election with Donald Trump, We see now that elections have consequences. | ||
| Stolen elections, as Steve likes to say, have catastrophic consequences. | ||
| We've basically exchanged the best president in modern history on both the economy and foreign policy for the worst president in all of history, Joe Biden. | ||
| He's still got two and a half years or so to go, so it ain't going to get Better, but if you go back in time to the heat of that election, there were really a couple of stories that illustrate the problem with Twitter. | ||
| The first was when the pandemic came out. | ||
| The whole woke media, left media, was to make sure that you'd blame Donald Trump for whatever happened with the virus and the pandemic. | ||
| And implicitly, that meant that you could not blame Communist China for the virus. | ||
| You couldn't say it was the China virus, the Communist China virus. | ||
| You couldn't say it came from a Wuhan lab. | ||
| It had to come from nature. | ||
| And one of the one of the most scurrilous things that Twitter did early on was to suppress What to me was obvious, and I went on Maria Bartiromo's show, Sunday Morning Futures, and said it early, early, early, as did Tom Cotton, that, hey, you take an Occam's razor approach, and the simplest explanation is probably the most likely one. | ||
| That virus came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
| Twitter suppressed that. | ||
| They took people, you couldn't, you couldn't put that out on the Twittersphere. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And yeah, like months and months and months and months later, after the election's over, they go, my bad. | ||
| Yeah, you can start talking about that. | ||
| But what if we had been able to have an honest conversation at that point? | ||
| About that singular issue. | ||
| Why was it important? | ||
| We didn't get the virus genome from the Chinese Communists because there was no world pressure on them to do so, and as a result, we wound up with an inferior Quasi-leaky, non-durable vaccine that's killing people that Tony Fauci's using to jab into our kids. | ||
| And that's, the fruit of that poisonous tree is Jack Dorsey and Twitter. | ||
| Twitter. | ||
| That alone, if we've been able to rightly blame and hold China accountable for that virus, Donald Trump will still be in the White House. | ||
| So that's number one. | ||
| Number two. | ||
| New York Post, can you hear me now? | ||
| Miranda Devine, can you hear me now? | ||
| What a great set of stories that they did on what? | ||
| The Hunter Biden laptop from hell. | ||
| You couldn't talk about that. | ||
| You couldn't talk about that on Twitter. | ||
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| What? | ||
| What? | ||
| The biggest political story in modern history and these twits at Twitter say you can't talk about it? | ||
| And look, the most stunning poll I ever saw was the one that came out that said, hey, if we'd known all about this Hunter Biden laptop stuff, we would have voted for the other guy. | ||
| Yeah, Trump. | ||
| So that's just two examples of Twitter directly responsible for that feeble, mentally diminished crime lord sitting in the White House, lording over us, destroying our economy, destroying our foreign policy, destroying this world. | ||
| That's on Twitter! | ||
| Those idiots! | ||
| In Silicon Valley, sit there and they go get their macalates or whatever you call them at Starbucks every morning and they eat their veggies and grains and they say, uh, can't talk about the truth. | ||
| Doesn't fit in with our woke ideology. | ||
| So yeah, let's get the hell, let's get rid of Twitter, right? | ||
| I mean, look, here's what they do, and I've got the perfect experiment here. | ||
| It's the Getter versus Twitter. | ||
| I put up the same content on Getter and Twitter, right? | ||
| And I get huge engagement on Getter, and I get shadowbanned on Twitter. | ||
| Gotta, gotta, gotta get these off. | ||
| Now, okay, so where do we go from here? | ||
| Okay, well, Elon Musk, okay? | ||
| Elon Musk is gonna buy Twitter, right? | ||
| A lot of you out there in war room land, whoa, wow, great. | ||
| I tell ya, the first thing I thought was, eh, nah, I don't love that. | ||
| Don't love that. | ||
| See? | ||
| Let's show the stock chart here, folks. | ||
| Here's the thing, it's like, if you look at the stock chart of Twitter, basically Twitter users and investors were telling the financial markets That they don't like all this woke crap, okay? | ||
| Twitter was dying a slow death. | ||
| Look at that thing! | ||
| Looks like you go back to July at that peak, you know, Getter comes out, that slope goes down, right? | ||
| That's what you call a downward trend. | ||
| You could make a ton of money shorting Twitter over that period of time. | ||
| And then, at the end, you see that little Elon Musk Bump. | ||
| You know, my view was, hey, let's get Getter out there. | ||
| Let's get TruSocial out there. | ||
| Let's unleash Parler, right, to stop Amazon from beating the damn thing up. | ||
| Let's have, that's the free market, Joe. | ||
| It's like having competing social media networks. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And so, so, I don't, you know, as soon as I saw Musk buying that, look, you might like Musk, you know, he's like, he pops off, he says interesting stuff. | ||
| The dude is a libertarian, got no, no problem with libertarians, hey, got a lot of libertarian in my own DNA, but! | ||
| That dude, he doesn't salute the American flag. | ||
| There's no way you go over to Communist China and bet your entire company putting a production line in there to make your little electric vehicles so you can make your billions to buy Twitter. | ||
| There's no way you do that. | ||
| And you have any concept of how bad Communist China is for this world, okay? | ||
| How do you go over and put Tesla factories over there when you've got two million people in concentration camps and you've got people locked down now in Shanghai and all they do is steal from this country? | ||
| How do you do that, Elon Musk? | ||
| I do not trust Elon Musk. | ||
| Okay, I do not trust Elon Musk. | ||
| You should not trust Elon Musk either, because he's in it for Elon. | ||
| Let's be really clear about that. | ||
| When we come back, what I'm going to do is quickly go through, kind of, I want to game this out. | ||
| I'm going to give you three possible outcomes, and I'm going to bring The great Darren Beattie in to talk about this whole situation. | ||
| I'm going to put Darren a little bit on the spot here, because I've been listening to his astute commentary on this, but there's a couple of things he said that have really raised my eyebrows. | ||
| He's a lot more pro-Elon than I've just been talking to you, and a lot more bullish on how this whole thing could change the world. | ||
| I don't see it that way. | ||
| Peter Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| We will be back with the great Darren Veedy and we will game out what exactly may well happen with the Musk and the Twitter land. | ||
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| I do think that we want to be just very reluctant to delete things and have, just be very cautious with permanent bans. | ||
| Timeouts, I think, are better than permanent bans. | ||
| But just in general, like I said, it won't be perfect, but I think we wanted to really have, like I said, the perception and reality that speech is as free as reasonably possible. | ||
| And a good sign as to whether there is free speech is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like. | ||
| And if that is the case, then we have free speech. | ||
| And it's damn annoying when someone you don't like says something you don't like. | ||
| That is a sign of a healthy, functioning free speech situation. | ||
| My strong, intuitive sense is that having a public platform that is maximally trusted and broadly inclusive is extremely important to the future of civilization. | ||
| I don't care about the economics at all. | ||
| Yeah, that's Elon in his diplomatic mode. | ||
| Yeah, please come let me buy Twitter. | ||
| Let me game this out for you, as we say in my trade, strategically. | ||
| The first option, of course, is the $54 bid that Musk has put on the table gets accepted. | ||
| He says it's his final offer. | ||
| If we take him at his word, then that's the only thing that can happen with that offer Okay, so that's that's option one now if you pull up that stock chart for me Denver You can see that Wall Street's not buying that in other words The stock price of Twitter right now is well below That offer price so if you if if there were confidence among investors | ||
| That that was going to happen. | ||
| It'd at least be at 54 bucks and they might even be bidding it up a little higher. | ||
| So that's a possibility, but it's not a slam dunk. | ||
| Option number two. | ||
| This is my strongly preferred option. | ||
| I call it the crash and burn option. | ||
| Let's say that for whatever reason, oh we know what that would be, If I were him, what I would do is I would dump every single share I had of Twitter. | ||
| What would he do? Well, if I were him, what I would do is I would dump every single share I had of Twitter. Put that chart back up for me Denver, if you would. | ||
| And And what you would see is that it would revert to a downward trending mean and we basically see the slow death of Twitter as other platforms like Getter and Truth Social and Parler become more robust as social media engages. | ||
| I mean clearly Twitter's got a huge problem in terms of its problem. | ||
| The last Last scenario, and this is the one I fear the most. | ||
| This is the one I fear the most. | ||
| You've heard of white knights coming in. | ||
| The woke knight scenario bugs me. | ||
| You know, somebody on the woke side with a deep pocket comes in, Bezos, Zuckerberg, whoever it is, Soros, and they outbid Musk, and we're back to the status quo ante. | ||
| So, I don't see this ending well. | ||
| So, let me kick it over to Darren Beatty, who's been on top of this story with Basobic from the beginning. | ||
| Darren, the one thing I would like to say to you, I was sitting down, thank God, when you said that this sale was more important than the 24th presidential election. | ||
| Were you smoking something that must smokes, or do you stand by that? | ||
| Anyway, the floor is yours. | ||
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| Well, first of all, thanks very much for having me on. | ||
| And I should qualify that remark. | ||
| I don't think up to this point, we're in territory that's more consequential. | ||
| I do think if Elon is able to actually succeed in his apparent endeavor, and that is to say to take over Twitter, but not just take it over, but also implement a genuinely free speech regime that governs Twitter's terms of service in practice, I would say that is more consequential than the outcome of the 2024 election, | ||
| but they're not disaggregated things. | ||
| I think if we have a genuinely free speech public square like Twitter, or even Twitter that functions the way it did in 2014 and 2015, before the real crackdowns on internet speech, we must recall, occurred in the aftermath of Trump's election in 2016, | ||
| If we could resurrect that internet and specifically that Twitter, I think not only would it be more consequential than the election, but it actually would really do a lot of help in terms of ensuring a favorable outcome in that election. | ||
| But, but, but, Darin, why, why don't, why don't we just get, grow Getter and, and True Social and others and, and let Twitter go, you know, gone with the woke dust? | ||
| I mean, why give a dying enterprise, which is riddled with woke people, a second life? | ||
| I mean, Musk would not only have to lift the censorship bans, he'd have to go in and basically get rid of everybody who's there. | ||
| And get rid of all their AI tools that use the shadow ban and censor. | ||
| I mean, why not just let it die? | ||
| This is what I don't understand. | ||
| It's just a company. | ||
| It's just let it keep dying its slow death and let these other companies rise up. | ||
| That's capitalism. | ||
| I mean, Darren, why do you think Twitter should survive? | ||
| I mean, we had our boot to its neck. | ||
| Let's kill the Twitter baby in its crib. | ||
| That's a great question. | ||
| And I can definitely sympathize with the attitude that, oh, these Twitter sucks. | ||
| It's just woke. | ||
| They're censoring all of us. | ||
| And that the right course is to set up these kind of parallel institutions, parallel endeavors. | ||
| I have a lot of respect for all of them. | ||
| And in fact, even could argue Revolver News is in that category of the parallel news institution. | ||
| And so it's something that I think is important However, I think it's very difficult to replicate what Twitter has, even given all of the problems that Twitter exhibits now, let alone when Elon might improve it. | ||
| Yeah, I don't understand. | ||
| Getter has a superior technology, okay? | ||
| It's just a more elegant platform. | ||
| The only thing Twitter has is scale. | ||
| They just got a mass of people who use it. | ||
| Fewer every day. | ||
| I mean, what's special about Twitter? | ||
| It's just a software company, at the end of the day, run by a bunch of woke idiots who use AI to suppress your free speech. | ||
| Why would you possibly... I don't understand. | ||
| What is special about Twitter to you, Darren, other than a big list? | ||
| Is there something else besides the fact there's a zillion people who use it? | ||
| Or is that it? | ||
| I would say yes, but that's not simply is that it. | ||
| What Twitter has that is so special and what has admittedly diminished from its glory days, say in 2014, but it still far exceeds anything else in this, is that it is actually the global public square. | ||
| It has a massive number of users and it has a composition of users and a network effects where it really allows I don't know. | ||
| narratives to be engineered and disseminated in a way that no other platform can really facilitate. | ||
| You're describing a propaganda machine, okay? You're describing a propaganda machine. | ||
| It's a global megaphone run by a bunch of woke libs who basically suppress everything conservative. | ||
| I don't know, again, I just... Musk, he comes in, it's like, do you disagree with this statement? | ||
| In order to make it a truly public square, he's going to have to get rid of just about everybody there and replace them with somebody else. | ||
| Is that a fair statement? | ||
| Yeah, that's why he needs to take the company private, which is not going to be an easy thing to do. | ||
| But if he clears out management and actually reinstates an organizational structure and a governing structure reflected in terms of service, terms of usage, That's really more aligned with what Twitter was even as recently as 2014. | ||
| But what you're saying in terms of valuing the company is that human capital at Twitter has no value. | ||
| In other words, in fact, it's a negative value. | ||
| It's like, get rid of all of those people and then bring in somebody else. | ||
| So where is the value in the company? | ||
| It's not the technology. | ||
| Getter's a more elegant platform. | ||
| Let's be clear about that. | ||
| So, what is it? | ||
| Is it the personnel there? | ||
| Or is it just they have a big following? | ||
| Again, is that it? | ||
| Well, it's not an it. | ||
| I thought you were talking about the management and employees. | ||
| That's what Elon needs to get rid of. | ||
| The actual user base is still profound, notwithstanding all of their problems. | ||
| It's the only venue that can justifiably call itself what Elon calls it the global public square. | ||
| It is the crown jewel to the US National Security Establishment. | ||
| Every major stakeholder... Wait a second, let me finish. | ||
| Let me finish here. | ||
| Every major stakeholder in the corrupt globalist American empire is invested in maintaining control over information flows on Twitter. | ||
| It's the epicenter of narrative formation and dissemination. | ||
| It's where journalists, celebrities, business titans go. | ||
| twitter being a free speech area it is the only venue that functions de facto as a global public square that's because of its network effects it's the epicenter of narrative formation and dissemination is where journalists, celebrities, business titans go it's the stage of public diplomacy and of hybrid warfare let me keep challenging you a little bit because | ||
| no other place can claim that what you've got what i see in this global public square is a propaganda machine and a follower base which is skewed left that has an undue influence on the narratives and spin that circulate around the world Again, why do you Why would you not want to just kill that baby in its crib and replace it? | ||
| I mean, if you think about what you're supporting, Darren, here's this. | ||
| You're like supporting the Rockefeller Trust in the days of Teddy Roosevelt. | ||
| Oh yeah, big oil! | ||
| They can produce it cheaper. | ||
| Never mind that they're screwing you. | ||
| With higher prices. | ||
| Like, Twitter's got scale, but it's screwing us with their propaganda. | ||
| Why not just have a concerted effort on our side of the fence? | ||
| I mean, it's like you're arguing for the New York Times to be taken over by Elon Musk. | ||
| And, you know, it's like, where would your be? | ||
| Anyway, you have the last word. | ||
| Tell everybody, by the way, how to get to where you're going. | ||
| I'm going to give you the last minute and 20 seconds here. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, I don't mean to diminish any endeavors along the lines of creating parallel institutions. | ||
| I do think there's a very special place, though, for this corporate raid approach. | ||
| That Elon is taking and I think it's specifically optimized for a company like Twitter that rests so heavily on its network effects. | ||
| It's a global public square and I have to agree with Elon that a tremendous amount is at stake in terms of civilization in ensuring that there's robust and active and free speech on the only platform that can call itself the global public square where narratives are formed And frankly, you could argue Trump wouldn't have been able to win in 2016 without the free internet that existed, and Twitter played a substantial role in this. | ||
| So I want that back. | ||
| I want free speech and scale of that. | ||
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So Twitter giveth and Twitter taketh away, yeah. | |
| Hey, let's give us your social media. | ||
| I'm a big fan of yours. | ||
| I'm a big fan of your site. | ||
| You do great breaking news. | ||
| Tell us, tell folks how to tune in to what you do, Darren. | ||
| We're on Gitter at Revolver News at Gitter. | ||
| I'm on Twitter at Darren J. Beattie. | ||
| And as always, visit revolver.news. | ||
| We've got a fresh, hot piece on Hungary and the globalist American empire's fake media. | ||
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| Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| I wonder if George Soros is going to do a hostile takeover of Getter. | ||
| Yeah, that would be interesting. | ||
| Look, before we get further into the show, I just want to give you too much information about my morning shower today. | ||
| Yes, I used a Mike Lindell towel, so I just want to cue you in. | ||
| I've done that test. | ||
| I get the towel set for $39.99. | ||
| You get six towels. | ||
| It's a winner, and then support Mike. | ||
| He's the armor-piercing, heat-seeking missile doing great work, and when you go there, you not only get great products, but you support the Lindell enterprise, which unfortunately The corporate world and the banks are trying to take down. | ||
| So what I want to do is, just moving to the end of this hour, I want to make what I think, for me at least, is a big announcement. | ||
| Just a few days ago, my second book about the White House Went up on Amazon for pre-order. | ||
| It's called Taking Back Trump's America. | ||
| The subtitle, I think, says it all. | ||
| Why we lost it and how we'll win it back. | ||
| And what I'm dedicating my life to is understanding what went wrong in 2020 and how to make it right, not just in 2024, but in 2022. | ||
| And what I do in this new book, Taking Back Trump's America, is I go back initially and look at what I call the strategic failures that effectively made the election close enough to steal. | ||
| This was a landslide basically waiting to happen. | ||
| Even with all the problems we had with the pandemic, initially and look at what I call the strategic failures that effectively made the election close enough to steal. This was a landslide basically waiting to happen. Even with all the problems we had with the pandemic, even with the fact that the economy was certainly down from its January 2020 high, Donald Trump truly was and can be again the best president in modern history. I mean he basically, what we did | ||
| I think when you're seeing what Joe Biden is doing right now, it basically helps you understand just how well we did what we did. | ||
| I mean, I remember taking back Trump's America book, I kind of go back to the 2016 campaign. | ||
| We start there because a lot of the seeds of success were planted there, but the seeds of the loss were also We had this mantra about structural changes in our economy in order to grow again, in order to make blue-collar workers prosperous. It was all predicated on the populist, economic nationalist vision that you hear Stephen K. Bannon talk so | ||
| eloquently about day after day on the War Room Show. That was a key part of the whole formula, as was all our tough-on-China policy agendas to deal effectively with their economic aggression. | ||
| We are we. | ||
| We approached An economy which was, at the time, it wasn't in recession, but it was stagnant. | ||
| It was slow growth. | ||
| The new normal was like, okay, we can only grow one or two percent. | ||
| That was the reality of Obama-Biden at the time. | ||
| And they had relied, going back to the crash of 08, simply on Keynesian tools to try to stimulate the American economy out of its doldrums. | ||
| The process of doing that, they encumbered the Federal Reserve with a tremendous amount of debt. | ||
| They kept interest rates artificially low in a way which distorted the allocation of capital across. | ||
| Our economy. | ||
| And we said from day one, coming in, that in order to move forward, we needed structural change, which was the tax cuts for corporations, not to help the corporations, but to help jobs come on shore. | ||
| It was lowering the regulatory burden. | ||
| It was strategic energy dominance and energy independence, which we got to in a miracle. | ||
| And most of all for me, because I was the trade guy, It was basically getting free trade, not just with China but with the rest of the world. | ||
| And that set us up beautifully. | ||
| And so what I do in this new book, Taking Back Trump's America, is kind of look at how we entered into that administration. | ||
| And I'll talk a lot, serious discussion, hold nothing back, about what I call the bad personnel that we encumbered the administration with early on that would hold us back, hold the president back from doing what he needed to do. | ||
| And so that'll be the first part of taking back Trump's America. | ||
| And then in the second half of the book, and this is critical, I lay out the battle plan and the blueprint, the battle plan and blueprint, taking back Trump's America, to win back the White House, certainly, in 2024. | ||
| But I argue in the book that the first thing we have to do in order to win back the White House in 24 is to take the House of Representatives in 2022. | ||
| Really important. | ||
| And it's not going to be a House of Representatives with a Republican majority. | ||
| It's going to be a House with a Trump Republican majority. | ||
| That's a critical thing. | ||
| In the next hour, I'm going to have a couple of candidates coming up here to talk a little bit about that. | ||
| But if you can, check out Taking Back Trump's America, why we lost it, how we'll win it back. | ||
| It's brand new on Amazon. | ||
| The War Room is great in supporting books. | ||
| All right, back at you in just a few minutes. | ||
| Stay with it. | ||
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