April 13, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| So, Mr. Ambassador, we saw Joe Biden talking about genocide yesterday, talking about the war crimes that have been committed. | ||
| I'm sorry, I don't believe that the Russians are all naive to what's going on because they plug into state television as if they don't understand the war crimes that are being committed. | ||
| You retweeted a piece talking about complicity. | ||
| The complicity of the Russian people. | ||
| What's the term? | ||
| Gleichschaltung. | ||
| Collective guilt. | ||
| What was used in Nazi Germany to talk about ordinary people who just go along with an evil regime. | ||
| Are we there yet with the Russians? | ||
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I think we have to discuss it. | |
| This is very difficult for me because, of course, this is Putin's war. | ||
| Russians didn't, you know, we're not all complicit in it. | ||
| They didn't vote in Congress democratically elected. | ||
| They live in these propaganda machines. | ||
| And if you're in the Putin bubble, right, it doesn't matter what information. | ||
| You're not going to believe it. | ||
| That probably sounds familiar, right? | ||
| You think of Trump supporters. | ||
| It doesn't matter what kind of information they have. | ||
| They're still going to believe it. | ||
| But I don't think the majority of Russians fall in that bubble. | ||
| And I do think we have to raise the question. | ||
| I was just at a YouTube discussion for an hour yesterday in Russian saying these kinds of things. | ||
| You can't just say, well, it's not my war. | ||
| It's not my president. | ||
| It's not my problem. | ||
| No, it is because for decades, There hasn't been more resistance. | ||
| Now, that's not to say that everybody should be as brave as Alexei Navalny and go to jail for their beliefs. | ||
| But small acts of civic resistance, I think, is important to show that you don't support this war. | ||
| OK, it's Wednesday, 13 April, Year of Our Lord 2022. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| It is Passover and Holy Week, the holiest week on the Judeo-Christian West calendar. | ||
| And we're going to get into all of that. | ||
| We got Father Pavone and we're trying to get our favorite rabbi, Rabbi Spiro, to join us later in the week about Passover. | ||
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Father Pavone is going to join us today about the next couple of days. | |
| We actually have Ben Harnwell's live at the Vatican right now. | ||
| We're going to go there. | ||
| When you talk about, and we've got Rebecca Koffler, the author of the fantastic book, Putin's Playbook, to discuss all of this. | ||
| We're going to start with the war today. | ||
| The shooter is still not apprehended. | ||
| In New York City. | ||
| Would that have happened under Rudy Giuliani and Bernie Kerik? | ||
| Would the shooter not be apprehended a day after 24 hours? | ||
| The chaos and anarchy of New York City is beyond disturbing. | ||
| It's chaos and anarchy because of left-wing progressive Democrats that can't organize anything. | ||
| And now their policies have come home to really bear on top of the working class people, folks in the subways, the working class people in the different boroughs. | ||
| We'll get to more of that. | ||
| We're absolutely packed today. | ||
| So much going on. | ||
| I want to go to Ben Harnwell, the first in Rome. | ||
| Ben, the ambassador there talked about the collective guilt. | ||
| Of the Russian people. | ||
| The complicity of the Russian people. | ||
| I'm focused on the complicity and collective guilt of the leaders of the EU, Brussels, NATO, that have, as Professor Wersheimer at the University of Chicago said, have led the Ukrainian people down the primrose path to their total and complete destruction, without having backed them up. | ||
| Backed them up with a lot of rhetoric, a lot of words. | ||
| Joe Scarborough, morning Mika, had a lot of nice rhetoric, had the ambassadors, all the people that impeached Trump, Come on every day to say how bad Trump is and how bad Putin is. | ||
| And hey, Putin is a KGB. | ||
| He does exactly like the KGB guys and the military guys there. | ||
| It's a criminal regime just like in Beijing. | ||
| We've said that now for, what, 10 years, right? | ||
| And you can't trust these guys, but that's different than the Russian people. | ||
| Who's complicit here in the collective guilt is the leadership of NATO, the leadership of the EU, They're the ones that promised and committed and led the most importantly gave the impression to the Ukrainian people they were going to be there for him and they're not in anything but rhetoric and some marginal weaponry, right? | ||
| There's a big piece in the Guardian today. | ||
| That's the left-wing Guardian and the ones had the pom-poms out for this the most to say it's it's now time for NATO to bring people, wait for it, to the negotiating table. | ||
| Every article out there today is talking about how Russia's making more money than ever. | ||
| They now have India buying natural gas from them. | ||
| China is obviously underwriting this. | ||
| Our great ally India We've kind of forced Modi. | ||
| Remember, he's the key that picks the lock to the Indo-Pacific strategy. | ||
| The Indo-Pacific strategy, right, that your bettors wanted, that kind of fell apart because now Modi's buying more gas, cutting gas deals for Russia and underwriting this. | ||
| Because he's been forced to. | ||
| The Chinese, the CCP's had this underway from day one. | ||
| There's an article up today, also, Ben, you're going to get into, that it would be, I think, a quarter of a trillion dollar implosion to the German economy, and that's what the Germans aren't going to do. | ||
| The Germans and the French are underwriting this. | ||
| It's the reason that Macron is in a dead heat with Le Pen, and he's now trying to change the subject. | ||
| So, Ben Harnwell, give us your perspective as we kick off today live from the Vatican. | ||
| Morning Steve. | ||
| Well, there are all these things going on. | ||
| There's a report which you alluded to in today's FT, which says that the EU ban on Russian energy would spark a sharp recession in Germany, although costing around 400,000 jobs. | ||
| And I think this is one of the factors that Olaf Scholz has in the back of his mind, where he's trying, as far as his European colleagues will let him, to play for time and to try and source alternative avenues Of energy. | ||
| So there's that going on. | ||
| There's the report which you mentioned, which I think listed a potential hit to the German economy of some 280 billion euros. | ||
| And that's another thing that Olaf Scholz has to weigh up. | ||
| And don't forget that in Germany, they actually have a constitutional amendment there where they must balance their budgets. | ||
| And that's obviously very, very different. | ||
| That obviously shapes the way the Germans are looking at this, different from how we will see this in the UK. | ||
| or whether European Union countries or even the United States where you can just simply sort of add on to the debt ceiling and destroy your currency as much as you like. In Germany they can't do that. One of the reasons is obviously because of the hyperinflation that sparked Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| rise to power. So that obviously is a very important thing that the Germans are considering as well, that they can't just do the great virtue signaling that other European leaders are doing and saying, yes, we'll ban this and we'll have sanctions there and we'll do this. They actually have to balance the books at the end of it. They have to make real decisions that if they take this hit, what are they going to get? | ||
| Look, the Germans, when I was in the White House, the Germans pulled the same thing with me when I had the meeting with them about how they had to pay their 2% to NATO. | ||
| They go, well, you know, we have a constitutional amendment. | ||
| We can't do that because we have a constitutional amendment that says we have to have a balanced budget. | ||
| I said, well, hang on. | ||
| Number one, we wrote your constitution after we beat you in World War II, so don't give me your constitution thing. | ||
| Our guys drafted it, OK? | ||
| Number two, you just got to cut the social programs and pay to get to the 2%. | ||
| He literally froze. | ||
| It was like I was speaking total heresy. | ||
| Here's what the Germans should have done. | ||
| I understand they have the economic problems. | ||
| We can do the math, and from day one, this show and the people we've had on it have been very consistent. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| We can do the math. | ||
| We told you this was going to happen, because they're not going to make themselves uncomfortable. | ||
| They're not going to make themselves uncomfortable. | ||
| What they needed to do was to discuss this with the senior leadership in Ukraine. | ||
| And for everybody that fanboyed Zelensky, as Zelensky is the leader of his country, shouldn't he have understood and asked the tough questions of particularly the biggest underwriters? | ||
| NATO and the EU are Franco-German projects. | ||
| I know maybe NATO less because De Gaulle had the problem, etc. | ||
| But they were essentially set up Right? | ||
| To make sure that we didn't go to war again in Western Europe, and obviously NATO, to contain the Soviets at the time. | ||
| But here's the galling thing, Ben. | ||
| We have all these pieces out now, whether it's in the Financial Times, or the Guardian, or the Times of London, New York Times, and of course MSNBC, and they never want to talk about that, because they're all into the emotional, how bad it is for the Ukrainian people, and hey, guess what? | ||
| I understand Dresden was bad, And this is bad. | ||
| This looks like Dresden, okay? | ||
| But it's not, it's going to continue. | ||
| And nobody's asking the hard questions. | ||
| Talk about Macron for a second. | ||
| Macron is in a closer, it's almost kind of a dead heat. | ||
| I know it's 53-47, which we said maybe 52-48. | ||
| But your point is, she's cutting deals, she cut a deal with the left on domestic issues. | ||
| This Ukrainian situation, and him as the great leader of the military side of the West, is not sellable to the French people. | ||
| The economics are not sellable to the German people. | ||
| They are the front line. | ||
| This is a European issue. | ||
| It's an issue about the post-war liberal rules-based order. | ||
| You're seeing that collapse, and that's because that order is phony. | ||
| That order is basically the United States underwriting all the security apparatus with your young men and women, your sons and daughters, and your tax dollars, your $1 trillion defense bill. | ||
| In Western Europe, in the Persian Gulf, in the Straits of Malacca, in the South China Sea, and up in the Northwest Pacific, off of Korea and Japan. | ||
| Those four hotspots. | ||
| We underwrite this. | ||
| And that rules-based order allowed China to go from a one trillion dollar economy, back with third world nation, to an economic superpower that's focused on hegemony, first on the Eurasian landmass with their partners, and number two in the Western Pacific, and number three globally in Sub-Saharan Africa and Latin America. | ||
| With the approval and support of Wall Street and the global corporations and the Uniparty here. | ||
| This is so obvious. | ||
| We have said from day one this was all going to happen in Ukraine. | ||
| You're going to have all these people killed, you're going to have all these cities crushed, you're going to have all this destroyed. | ||
| And at the end of it, when all these refugees got taken into Poland and 8 million people are in the country displaced? | ||
| Germany's going to sit there and go, well, you know, it's going to cost us 400,000 jobs, or it's going to throw us into recession, or gosh, it's going to cost us 250 billion euro. | ||
| Hello? | ||
| You knew that at the time. | ||
| Or NATO, gosh, if we actually give them combat aircraft and do combat patrols, we could get into a shooting war, right? | ||
| We can get into a shooting war. | ||
| So we can't do that. | ||
| We'll send you some rifles. | ||
| We'll send you some shoulder-mounted missiles so you can shoot down a couple of helicopters. | ||
| Look at their cities. | ||
| Look at the people. | ||
| Look at the death and destruction. | ||
| Who caused that? | ||
| Obviously, these criminals like Xi and the mullahs in Iran. | ||
| What do you think Jerusalem would look like if we let the mullahs in Iran go? | ||
| The mullahs in Iran, Xi in China, Putin in the KGB, in the FSB, in the military, in Moscow. | ||
| This is what countries are going to look at, but you have to have an organized plan not to tell people, hey, we're rooting for you. | ||
| MSNBC, The worst. | ||
| The blood is on your hands, too, because you did this cheerleading the entire time, and now Germany's sitting there going, well, I don't know if we can do anything, because, gosh, we've got to keep buying. | ||
| Their economy's doing better after we took our best shot at them. | ||
| Now we're de-dollarizing the world. | ||
| We've got the world saying, I don't think we want all these dollars now, because we see what you're going to do in a time of crisis. | ||
| And I was the advocate of that against the head of the snake. | ||
| Go to the Chinese Communist Party and cut the head of the snake off in Beijing. | ||
| The whole thing collapses. | ||
| Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Russia, the mini-me in North Korea. | ||
| It's all the head of the snake that controls it. | ||
| But no, no, no, no, no, no, no! | ||
| We gotta do all this in Ukraine and we gotta get this big conflict, let the southern border have an invasion while we're over on the eastern border of Ukraine, of which now Donbass is gonna get it even harder. | ||
| And what are they doing? | ||
| What are your bettors doing on TV? | ||
| They're sitting there going, maybe he can get overthrown. | ||
| We didn't take down the economy by destroying the central bank, but maybe some guy's running, maybe they're going to have a coup. | ||
| Maybe they're going to assassinate him. | ||
| Maybe we send in weapons to assassinate him. | ||
| Sean Penn's sitting there fantasizing, having a masturbatory fantasy. | ||
| The next time I'm over, I'm going to grab a rifle. | ||
| Not just a camera and make my little documentary. | ||
| I'm actually going to grab a rifle. | ||
| It's all fanboy fantasy! | ||
| It's all fanboy fantasy. | ||
| That's what you're seeing on TV every second of every day. | ||
| It's a fantasy. | ||
| You know what it's not a fantasy for? | ||
| Look at those cities. | ||
| Look at Mariupol. | ||
| Look at the cities in Ukraine. | ||
| Look at the death and destruction. | ||
| That's reality. | ||
| That's not fantasy. | ||
| That's fact. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And we said this was going to happen unless you quickly get these people to the table, figure this thing out without all this death and destruction. | ||
| And yet you've sat there, and this is what you have, and the Germans. | ||
| Gosh, you know, we're going to get kicked into a recession. | ||
| I don't know if we can do this. | ||
| What did you say your name was? | ||
| Ukrainian? | ||
| OK, yeah, I don't think we can do that. | ||
| Yeah, we've got to buy this oil. | ||
| We've got to buy this gas. | ||
| We've got to buy this natural gas. | ||
| Now we've got Modi. | ||
| The two biggest underwriters are now China and India. | ||
| Modi, our best ally, the key that picks the lock on taking down the Chinese Communist Party on the containment strategy of the 21st century. | ||
| Oh, sorry about that. | ||
| He's now buying Russian gas at record prices and at record levels. | ||
| Because we forced him to. | ||
| That's what these geniuses did, and this is just not hapless Biden, of course he's feckless. | ||
| This is the whole Atlanticist group. | ||
| This is the entire Atlanticist group that never took India seriously, that don't understand what's in Beijing. | ||
| You talk about white nationalism, you're seeing white nationalism right now. | ||
| How many non-white folks you see on there talking about this crap? | ||
| Disgusting. | ||
| The same people that impeached Trump. | ||
| Back in a moment, Rebecca Koffler, we got Ben Harnwell in the Vatican, and I promise I'm gonna let Ben talk in the next segment. | ||
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| I'm going to talk about the Lee Greenwood joint venture we have at God Bless the USA Bible later in the show. | ||
| But I was thinking, Ben, as you're in the Vatican, we're going to have you on for a lot of this morning show. | ||
| It's always good during a Passover and Holy Week to go back and to read the Old Testament and to read particularly, obviously, the New Testament. | ||
| And you think about it, you get away actually even from the religious for a second and just think about Nothing changes, right? | ||
| You've got the Roman occupation of Judea, you've got all the politics of Herod, you've got obviously the senior leaders Caiaphas and Annas from the religious elite, right? | ||
| All the deals that are being cut, everything that's being cut, you know, from the politics of coming in on Palm Sunday. | ||
| Who could have imagined? | ||
| to the crucifixion on Friday and then the resurrection on Sunday. | ||
| But just think about the politics. Think about where we are now. | ||
| Think about where we are now. | ||
| Who could have imagined... | ||
| Who could have imagined... | ||
| uh... | ||
| the last year, coming out of Afghanistan of 20 years of what that represented to this nation and to the world, and then to come up and see what happened in Ukraine and look at it right now, it looks like Germany in uh... or parts of obviously the Ukraine in the Second World War. | ||
| If this was all in black-and-white photography, you wouldn't tell the difference. | ||
| You would not tell the difference. | ||
| We've learned nothing, right? | ||
| We've learned nothing. | ||
| And some of you say, oh, well, Bannon, you can't, you guys are Neville Chamberlain. | ||
| I'm farthest from Neville Chamberlain in the world. | ||
| But you can't lead people on if you're not prepared to do if you're not prepared to actually have their backs have their backs you can't lead them on to what you're prepared to and then not do it and then have all these mealy mouth excuses what galls me. | ||
| Is the Germans, what galls me, is that group of globalist, leftist, gutless, that whole Merkel crowd, right? | ||
| The people that wouldn't put 2% into NATO for years and years and years, wanting us to underwrite it all, and virtually signaling all the time with the climate change and all this and all that. | ||
| When it gets down to the bottom line, because they don't want a recession, they don't want to hurt their economy, right? | ||
| They don't want to pay a little bit more for natural gas. | ||
| They want to heat their homes. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Their whole economic model is based upon cheap Russian gas. | ||
| That's how their whole economy is predicated upon it. | ||
| The whole thing will collapse if they don't get that. | ||
| And to have these mealy-mouthed excuses and to see the carnage that's going on, Let's start calling people out and holding people responsible and let's step back from the emotions of it. | ||
| This is great power politics and people's lives are at stake. | ||
| People's, not just their property, their way of life is at stake and their lives are at stake and it's the women and children are taking the biggest brunt. | ||
| And you have, and this is the thing in the world. | ||
| Putin and the guys in Moscow are gangsters. | ||
| She and the people in Beijing are gangsters. | ||
| The Mullahs are gangsters. | ||
| Erdogan's just a gangster. | ||
| They're gangsters. | ||
| These are gangsters. | ||
| They're not gangsters. | ||
| They're pure-on gangsters. | ||
| Just like Mussolini and Hitler and Mao and Tojo and Stalin. | ||
| They're all gangsters. | ||
| You know, you read these books of the different, you know, the National Socialist Council. | ||
| They're gangsters! | ||
| Gangsters! | ||
| They're all the same. | ||
| They're gangsters. | ||
| They're gangsters. | ||
| And what you don't do is lead a victim on that you're going to defend them militarily on economic warfare. | ||
| Oh, we're going to take a yacht away. | ||
| We're going to take a football club away. | ||
| We're going to go into Chelsea and take all their property. | ||
| We're going to go to Belgravia and seize a couple of houses. | ||
| Please spare me. | ||
| Please spare me how righteous you are, Sean Penn, going over there. | ||
| Next time I may grab a gun. | ||
| Get a gun now and go over. | ||
| Don't talk about it. | ||
| Man up and do it. | ||
| Put your camera down. | ||
| We don't need another documentary. | ||
| You want to be a big man? | ||
| You want to talk them into doing it? | ||
| Get a gun and go over and do it. | ||
| As the Brits are right now, there's what, 1,100 Marines that surrendered in Maripol? | ||
| Ask them how that's going to turn out. | ||
| Let's go to Rebecca Koffler. | ||
| Rebecca, in your book, Putin's Strategy, I mean, you're inside this guy's head. | ||
| You walk through the entire thing about what his overall plan is and what the criminality of these guys are and how they think, right? | ||
| How they think. | ||
| Is it a fantasy to think that there's going to be, he just fired a bunch of intelligence guys, is there a fantasy there's going to be a coup against him? | ||
| And if there is a coup, is what comes after Putin better than Putin? | ||
| It's an absolute fantasy, Steve. | ||
| The Washington National Security Establishment has a malaise. | ||
| That malaise is called infantilism, and it's called mirror imaging. | ||
| They're like little boys playing with sticks in the backyard. | ||
| and playing war, but they've never actually been in war. | ||
| They decided that we want to control Ukraine, fine. | ||
| We used to have the top secret policy that's now declassified or rather being leaked, right? | ||
| That we will prevent a hostile power from emerging as a dominant power in Eurasia. | ||
| a hostile power from emerging as a dominant power in Eurasia. | ||
| What does it mean? | ||
| What does it mean? | ||
| We do not want Ukraine and other post-Soviet states back under Moscow's control. | ||
| We do not want Ukraine and other post-Soviet states back under Moscow's control. | ||
| But they never backed up that policy with their own credible plan, and Putin did. | ||
| And so what we have right now is these people thinking that the Russians are thinking like Americans. | ||
| Well, the Russians don't. | ||
| And guess what, Putin's popularity rating has skyrocketed since the beginning of the war. | ||
| It's at 83%. | ||
| Biden can only dream about those kinds of ratings. | ||
| No, the Russian people don't support the war, but they have always supported a strong leader. | ||
| This is the culture that produced Ivan the Terrible, who killed his own son. | ||
| This is the culture that produced Joseph Stalin, who killed millions of the Russian people. | ||
| It's because the Russians are all about security and stability. | ||
| And they think that somebody like Putin will provide it to him. | ||
| They elected him four times. | ||
| Guess who the runner-up was every single time? | ||
| It was a communist. | ||
| It would have been somebody who is even stronger and worse than Putin. | ||
| And so the Washington establishment somehow is dreaming that the Russians are going to remove Putin from power. | ||
| Somehow there's a coup. | ||
| I mean, who are they kidding? | ||
| Again, it's a professional malpractice to really have this, you know, wrong assessment and to lead Ukraine. | ||
| you know, to fight, you know, poor Ukrainians. | ||
| They're just basically spilling blood while Putin and Zelensky are fighting it out, and neither one wants to yield. | ||
| And remember, the original reason why Putin attacked Ukraine is because the distance between NATO forces and Russia has reduced from a thousand mile to 100 miles. | ||
| No sane military commander will find it acceptable. | ||
| And Putin wants to enforce his version of the Monroe Doctrine. | ||
| And unfortunately, we are not prepared to challenge him because he will go all the way into the nuclear warfare realm. | ||
| And we're just running around with fantasies how the Russian people are gonna remove Putin from power, and we're saying regime change, he cannot remain in power. | ||
| Well, guess what it telegraphs to Putin is that he has no off-ramp, and he's cornered now, and he's gonna dramatically escalate this phase of this war. | ||
| Ben, I want to bring you in for a second to put a point in here, is that Macron in his campaign yesterday was very specific about Joe Biden escalating the rhetoric and saying what Russia's doing now, he's already calling him a war criminal, but what he's doing now is genocide. | ||
| What did Macron, who's fighting for his political life, at the voting box, at the ballot box with the French people, what did Macron say yesterday about Rebecca's point about the rhetoric being increased? | ||
| Well Steve, this is the great point and it's one of the consequences we have when we have a leader in the United States who's incapable. | ||
| It makes a man, a globalist, a rather shallow man like Emmanuel Macron look like a global world statesman and a world leader and you'll see that from his response now. | ||
| This is what he said yesterday to French TV. | ||
| He said, I'm reluctant to use the term genocide and he warned against an escalation of rhetoric He went on to say that he would be careful with such terms today because these two peoples, the Russians and the Ukrainians, are brothers. | ||
| And he finished with, I want to continue to try as much as I can to stop this war and rebuild peace. | ||
| I am not sure that an escalation of rhetoric serves that cause. | ||
| You know, I don't think it's possible to add anything to the clarity of that. | ||
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| Hang on one second, perfect. | ||
| That's for Macron. | ||
| I just want to make sure, we're going to go to break and I'm going to ask Rebecca to stay over. | ||
| For all the Media Matters and Mediaite, all the haters that watch this, you don't have a more anti-Putin person than Rebecca Koffler. | ||
| Right? | ||
| She's not, you're sitting there going, oh, they're doing the Moscow Party line. | ||
| No, this is anything but the Moscow Party line. | ||
| There's nobody more, and there's nobody that knows Putin better. | ||
| There's nobody, and she lays it all out in her book, you know, The Secret Plan to Defeat America, right? | ||
| There's nobody that, nobody lays it out better than Rebecca Koffler. | ||
| But we're talking real politik, right? | ||
| And that is to save the Ukrainian people from any more misery and hardship. | ||
| Because, hey, now they're going to talk about tank battles. | ||
| They're going to try to have mini-Kursk. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's what we're going to do now. | ||
| Now they look like Dresden. | ||
| The Russians are going to now mount up. | ||
| And what is NATO going to do? | ||
| You've got Macron fighting for his life. | ||
| You think Macron's going to step on a stage and go, we're going to commit military resources? | ||
| We're going to go to full economic war against the Russians? | ||
| No. | ||
| He's not even hitting the Russian associations that Le Pen and Front National have had for 10, 20, 30 years. | ||
| He's going light on that. | ||
| He may pivot, but he's going light on it right now. | ||
| He realizes he's in a jam and voters are saying, hey, I think we've got enough domestic issues here. | ||
| What are we doing here by getting into another land war? | ||
| The land wars in Europe didn't work out too well for France. | ||
| Ask them about World War I. Ask them about the 5 million dead in the trenches of World War I. Ask the deplorables. | ||
| Ask Gilets Jaunes how World War I worked out for the French, right? | ||
| Watch Paz LaGloria. | ||
| It's always the deplorables that pay. | ||
| Always. | ||
| Always, always, always. | ||
| Back with Rebecca Koffler. | ||
| Ben Harnwer from the Vatican in a moment. | ||
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| Because if you think things are going to get better, you are sadly mistaken. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| You are sadly mistaken. | ||
| Things are going to get worse, and they're going to get a lot worse. | ||
| They're going to get a lot worse. | ||
| We are going to triumph in the end, right? | ||
| But it's going to be a very tough, hard ride. | ||
| And this is not going to be for the faint of heart. | ||
| So if you're not up for it, maybe this is not the show for you. | ||
| We're going to give it to you with both barrels, right? | ||
| We're going to tell you exactly. | ||
| We're going to lay out the information so you can come to your own conclusion of exactly what's happening in the world. | ||
| And we're going to lay out a plan of how we're going to both defeat the Chinese Communist Party and the Democratic Party. | ||
| Our objective in November Is the total and complete destruction of the Democratic Party at the ballot box to make sure that they're no longer a national political institution. | ||
| They spin off into some, you know, the squad takes some part of it, and they're the German equivalent of the Green Party. | ||
| And then you've got the neoliberal neocon Liz Cheney, or what I call her Dick Cheney in drag, and Hillary Clinton, that party, the neoliberal neocons. | ||
| The neoliberal neocons that have assisted Assisted Putin in the slaughter of the Ukrainian people. | ||
| Rebecca Koffler, is the West now having misled the leadership of the West? | ||
| Is the leadership of the West, particularly the guys in Brussels, in the EU, NATO, Washington DC, the City of London, Wall Street, having misled the Ukrainian people, do you think they're going to step up and be any harsher? | ||
| And is Putin going to back down, ma'am? | ||
| Yes, we absolutely, unfortunately, have misled the Ukrainians by promising them NATO membership, by signaling it to them, and that was a red line to Putin. | ||
| Putin will escalate 100%. | ||
| In the past week, the rhetoric that has been coming out of the Kremlin is total war. | ||
| This is what one of the Duma deputies, Oleg Morozov, said. | ||
| The war has changed. | ||
| We can only win this war by using means we haven't employed up until this point. | ||
| Why are they invoking the total war rhetoric? | ||
| It's because Biden's narrative has just justified one of the requirements in the Russian military doctrine of an existential threat. | ||
| Remember when Christiane Amanpour of CNN asked Peskov Putin's press secretary to rule out use of nuclear weapons and Peskov said well we have a prerequisite in the military doctrine of an existential threat. | ||
| What's an existential threat? | ||
| Is regime change an existential threat? | ||
| 100% is economic warfare that foreign minister Lavrov said is being waged right now against Russia against the Russian people that Lavrov said is basically a total war trying to strangle the Russian economy and annihilate Russia. | ||
| Yes, that's in the Russian view is an existential threat. | ||
| And so we wittingly or unwittingly walked into Putin's trap. | ||
| Why did he appoint Alexander Dvornikov right now to take over command of the Ukraine's war? | ||
| It's because this guy is proficient at using chemical warfare. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| He did it in Syria. | ||
| This is what I anticipate is gonna happen. | ||
| In the last phase of this war, because Putin has inserted an artificial timeline into his military strategy, May 9th. | ||
| May 9th is a huge symbolic holiday in Russia. | ||
| It's the 77th anniversary of Russia's victory in what they call the Great Patriotic War, the World War II. | ||
| On that day, there's a huge parade where the Russians demonstrate its military might, recent weaponry technology. | ||
| And so he is now going to escalate dramatically to the point where he could use either chemical or even nuclear weapons. | ||
| And you know, Steve, that they have escalate to deescalate strategy. | ||
| that President, former President Trump tried to counter with the development of our own nuclear warhead with the low yield, small fallout, but the Biden administration canceled that. | ||
| So the soy boys against the gangsters right now is the battle of the wills and we know who can win, right? So we need to immediately get the soy boys with the program that we need to use our, you know, our smarts. | ||
| We need to use our brain against the gangsters, not just the sticks in the yard. | ||
| Well, if they go to chemical weapons and then obviously tactical nuclear weapons, this thing will metastasize so quickly into a global conflict. | ||
| That's just the reality. | ||
| Absolutely, Steve! | ||
| Every single war game, Steve, that I participated in when I was a senior intelligence officer for Russian Doctrine and Strategy at the DIA, the blue lost, okay? | ||
| Why did we lose? | ||
| Even though we have superior weaponry, we have the best war fighting force in military history, our men and women in uniform, they can do wonders, right? | ||
| But they're being mismanaged. | ||
| They're mismanaged by people like Mark Milley, who goes behind his own commander-in-chief's back, promising to the Chinese that he's going to warn them if, God forbid, there's a strike planned or some kind of action planned in China. | ||
| I don't wonder what he promised the Russian Chief of General Staff, Valery Gerasimov. | ||
| You know, and the fact that the Russians are now actually don't respond to Pentagon's calls is a huge signpost in Russian military doctrine that the break in relations is a precursor to a catastrophic action, potentially. | ||
| The Russians have trained for the use of nuclear weapons as well as chemical weapons. | ||
| They have the doctrine and they've done it before. | ||
| During Holy Week, to be talking about a situation where you can actually put on the table the possibility of using tactical nuclear weapons could not be, or chemical weapons, biological weapons, it could not be scarier. | ||
| Rebecca, you know this area. | ||
| By the way, so Rebecca's, the buried lead here is 9 May, the 77th anniversary of the Red Army's victory over the Wehrmacht in World War II in Nazi Germany. | ||
| You're saying that that's going to be, what does he want to accomplish By 9 May, because that's what three weeks away. | ||
| Why is 9 May a big deal? | ||
| And what does he want to accomplish? | ||
| Well, the big deal, like I said, it's a huge, huge symbol. | ||
| The Russians sacrificed 20 million people in World War Two. | ||
| Every year they celebrate that they mourn the loss of life. | ||
| And so Putin He's gonna try to consolidate his gain, his gains. | ||
| He's gonna massively escalate to finally secure the Donbas, the so-called People's Republic, Luhansk and Donetsk. | ||
| You know, try to accomplish the, finalize the land bridge. | ||
| And ideally, I believe he wants to go after Odessa, because as you know, it's a very strategic area for him. | ||
| He's trying to cut off access. | ||
| To see to the to the Black Sea for Ukrainians and that will be just as good for him as toppling Kiev because he's gonna ensure that Ukraine will not become part of NATO by breaking the territorial integrity. | ||
| And this is why Zelensky doesn't want to compromise with him. | ||
| So right now Ukrainian people are the ones that are caught in the middle. | ||
| When there's this ferocious battle of the wills. | ||
| Rebecca, how do people get to your writings and how they get to the wonderful book that Regnery put out, Putin's Playbook? | ||
| Putin's Playbook is available anywhere right now on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, in stores, on my publisher's website, Regnery. | ||
| I am on Twitter at Rebecca0132. | ||
| I also have a website, RebeccaKofler.com. | ||
| I write for the Washington Journal, The Hill, Fox News website, New York Post, and just Google my name, Rebecca Kofler, and Putin's playbook, and I wrote a foreword also for the book on Zelensky. | ||
| We'll leave the Zelensky book comes out, I think, May 19th. | ||
| We're going to have you and the authors back on for that. | ||
| We'll save that for another time. | ||
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| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I have my own thoughts on Zelensky. | ||
| We'll have that for another time. | ||
| He's given a master class. | ||
| He's given a master class in how an actor takes on the role of a war leader. | ||
| He's definitely given a master class because he's played the West. | ||
| And I'm saying, Jessica, don't take it from me. | ||
| And for the media, don't take it from me. | ||
| Just go look. | ||
| At Zelensky's, read Zelensky's speeches. | ||
| Don't even, you don't have to watch them, they're all subtitled, but read the transcripts, as I have, of all of his speeches and where he gave them. | ||
| And see, he's the most accusatory of all of the West, of EU and NATO, in the EU and NATO. | ||
| In the United States, quite frankly. | ||
| Saying what you promised us and what you've delivered is not enough. | ||
| Am I incorrect in that, Rebecca? | ||
| 100%! | ||
| Zelensky's main instrument of war is his skill at Acting skills, right? | ||
| He is playing hot buttons. | ||
| He knows how the Western leaders feel. | ||
| He knows that he can shame them. | ||
| He knows that he can pull on their strings. | ||
| He's playing them like an orchestra. | ||
| This is the person who is highly, highly capable of invoking emotions. | ||
| He's been putting translators and interpreters to tears, Steve. | ||
| When he was speaking to U.S. | ||
| Congress, to the British Parliament, this man, yes, he has displayed a tremendous will to fight, statesmanship. | ||
| He has won information warfare. | ||
| You know, he put Putin to shame. | ||
| Putin is stuck in the pre-internet era. | ||
| Putin doesn't even use email, right? | ||
| Zelensky won his election in 2019 by On social media by putting out his speeches just like you said Anyone needs to just listen to these speeches. | ||
| He is a master actor performer who turned war President and he's now basically touching the hearts and minds of the world to help to get to get support to protect his country, but guess what Ukraine's national interest is And US national interests are not one and the same. | ||
| And so unfortunately, right now with us having a pretty weak commander in chief, Zelensky, both Zelensky and Putin are able to manipulate Biden. | ||
| And we are walking potentially into a very disastrous situation with Putin planning the last ditch march onto Ukraine. | ||
| One wrong move and we are into potentially chemical and nuclear warfare that escalates massively based on the war games that I participated in. | ||
| Rebecca Koffler, thank you so much for joining us, giving a shot of reality. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Look forward to having you back. | ||
| The sovereignty, territorial integrity and self-determination of the eastern border of Ukraine is not in the vital national interest of the United States. | ||
| The southern border of the United States The sovereignty of it, the territorial integrity of the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas and Southern Arizona, and the self-determination of the American people. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
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That is the vital national security interest of the United States. | |
| Michael Patrick Leahy joins Ben Harnwell and myself, Terry Schilling, all next in the War Room. | ||
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| Okay, we haven't even gotten to the biggest story of the day. | ||
| The biggest story of the day is really what's happening in Shanghai, and I'm telling you, it is massive. | ||
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| What's going on in mainland China right now is, and you don't think that's going to roll into your life? | ||
| Go back to January 20th of 2020, when we turned from war on impeachment to pandemic, and people laughed in my face. | ||
| People in this city said, yeah, the impeachment thing's on a roll. | ||
| You're hot, right? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| I said, well, I think this is going to change the arc of history over the next couple of years. | ||
| And, you know, a guy laughed at, uh, a guy went on WABC, the John Katz Matini Show, and laughed in my face, and that was a guy named Tony Fauci. | ||
| Oh, it's no big deal. | ||
| It's Lassar's thing over in China, and nothing's going to happen. | ||
| That's him on, we can play that nonstop. | ||
| The Tony Fauci, the great Tony Fauci, a couple days later is in Peter Navarro's grill. | ||
| in the National Security Council, down in the Situation Room, right below the White House. | ||
| Saying, no, nothing's gonna come out of China, when Navarro was recommended to the President, shut everything down. | ||
| My point is there are massive things happening in the world right now, and we are dedicated to making sure that you understand it nonstop. | ||
| Ben Harnwell's gonna get that. | ||
| Ben, I've got Terry Schilling. | ||
| We're running behind because I've been pontificating all morning, but I think these are pontifications that have to happen. | ||
| Because we're heading to a very dark place, and there can be no better time than Holy Week, Passover and Holy Week, for everybody to turn inward. | ||
| Turn inward. | ||
| Turn inward and really do a gut check. | ||
| Do a gut check of where you are, not just in your personal life, where you think our country is, and how are you going to help to save it? | ||
| Okay? | ||
| How are you going to help to save it? | ||
| Ben, real quickly, I want to... I'll tell you what, Ben, you've got... | ||
| Tell me about the opposition in Ukraine. | ||
| I just want to make sure, Zelensky, who's lionized non-stop in the mainstream media, what does Zelensky just do with the opposition in Ukraine? | ||
| Well, the leader of the opposition platform For Life, which has about 44 seats in the 450 seat Unicameral Parliament in Ukraine. | ||
| It's called Viktor Medvedchuk. | ||
| Now I did a deep dive on him and his colleagues on livestream at the beginning of April and it's absolutely shocking. | ||
| What is most shocking is that Volodymyr Zelensky in speech after speech in legislature after legislature around the world is going on about how he is fighting for democracy And freedom of speech and the rule of law and that Russia is the great tyranny against these values and that Ukraine and Zelensky himself and the international institutions, they all belong together. | ||
| And here's actually what has been happening in Ukraine, which our mainstream media hasn't been reporting. | ||
| Viktor Medvedchuk, He's the de facto leader of the opposition in Ukraine. | ||
| He's been under house arrest since last May, almost a year ago. | ||
| This is long before Putin invaded, right? | ||
| And there have been spurious charges and denunciations. | ||
| The courts, I have to say, in Ukraine do appear to be relatively neutral and independent. | ||
| And they haven't been playing ball with Zelensky on locking up a lot of these people. | ||
| This guy, He runs a couple of television networks. | ||
| The networks have all been, at first they were suppressed, now they've actually been commandeered by Zelensky. | ||
| But is it any different than what the British did after, what, September 1st, 1939, in that rolling up Oswald Mosley? | ||
| I mean, when you're at war, you have an opportunity... I mean, even Lincoln in the Civil War suppressed dissenting voices, right? | ||
| Is there anything... I look at Oswald Mosley and what Churchill and the establishment did, and even Churchill wasn't really part of the establishment, but what they did to shut down Oswald Mosley and the British fascists and blackshirts that were obviously pro-Hitler. | ||
| These guys are an opposition party. | ||
| Well, the thing is with Viktor Medvedchuk, he's actually been under house arrest since last year, since last May. | ||
| Is it is it outrageous that they would shut these things down in a time of war when their cities are being devastated? | ||
| Well, the thing is with Victor Medvedchuk He was actually he's actually been in the house of us since last year since last May this is long before Putin invaded so that justification doesn't really hold and in fact what what Zelensky has been doing Basically from about the first year of his presidency onwards is suppressing all of the legitimate parliamentary voices of opposition to him and his government Um, you. | ||
| Using the refrain, oh, they're pro-Putin or they're the Kremlin assets or against Medvedchuk himself. | ||
| They're saying he's a traitor. | ||
| My point is this, Steve, my point is this. | ||
| The whole world knows the fate of Alexei Navalny, who's the opposition politician in prison in Russia. | ||
| The whole world knows about his plight. | ||
| Nobody Okay. | ||
| Why don't you hang on. | ||
| You're going to be live from the Vatican with you. | ||
| We've got Father Provence going to come up. | ||
| Terry Schilling. | ||
| We're jammed up. | ||
| Politico. | ||
| is the hero of our values of freedom and democracy when he's in fact suppressing these issues, these values. | ||
| OK, why don't you hang on? | ||
| You're going to be live from the Vatican with you. | ||
| We got Father Provence going to come up. | ||
| Terry Schilling, we're jammed up. | ||
| Politico, Politico had a huge story on American Principles Project and Terry Schilling based upon predicated upon the predicated upon his appearances here on the on War Room in this spot that they just did the other day. | ||
| So, I'm going to go ahead and get started. | ||
| I'm going to go ahead and get started. | ||
| So I'll tell you what we're going to do. | ||
| We're going to take, because I'm running behind time. | ||
| Ben, you can go ahead and kill your mic. | ||
| So I don't need more background of Vatican. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We got Father Provence going to come on. | ||
| We got Terry Shilling's going to come on. | ||
| We're going to play that incredible spot again. | ||
| We're going to have Michael Patrick Leahy's going to join us later to talk about Ron DeSantis and the throwdown on Disney and these woke corporations, what they're doing in the schools. | ||
| Also, we've got Dave Brad from the Dean down at Liberty University about the inflation that's ripping apart your life. | ||
| We're going to talk about the southern border. | ||
| We've got a report. | ||
| There's going to be a press conference today. | ||
| Governor Abbott, I think they're cutting a deal with the Mexican government about the invasion of our southern border and the trucks coming across. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| The first busload of illegal aliens has just been dumped into Washington, D.C. | ||
| We'll show all that. | ||
| And we're going to talk about Shanghai. |
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