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Episode 1,778 – Massacre In New York City Subway, Inflation Burns Out Of ControlEpisode 1,778 – Massacre In New York City Subway, Inflation Burns Out Of Control
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to the year over year numbers. 8.5 percent, usurp 7.9, 8.5 percent remains a 41 year high.
You have to go back to 1981. And finally, we're looking at year over year core, expected up 6.6, comes in at 6.5, taking out the 6.4 percent.
So up at 6.5%, we are now looking, once again, to comp back to 82%.
That remains the same with respect to comping.
And the reason is, because in 82%, we traded all the way up to 9.1%.
So you can see that 6.5% has some room to continue to go back to the same 0.4 decades plus.
And that really is the issue here, isn't it?
Now, when we adjust earnings for inflation, if you look at hourly earnings on a year-over-year basis, they're down 2.7%.
Adjusted for inflation on weekly year-over-year earnings, down 3.6%.
unidentified
Another inflation bombshell this morning.
Consumer prices went up 8.5% in the last year.
That is a real shock.
Anyone under 50 has never seen anything like this before.
President Biden has laid the blame on just about everyone.
Meat packers, oil companies, the supply chain, chip shortages, and now Putin.
Today, he'll visit Iowa and frequently use the expression, Putin's price hikes.
That is a political excuse.
It does not address the root causes.
And those root causes are extraordinary money printing by the Federal Reserve, massive pandemic spending by Congress, the deliberate cut in America's oil and gas production, ending our energy independence, and, yes, Putin's war, which cut the supply of wheat and corn and raised food prices worldwide.
That's why inflation has hit us so hard, and the administration not in a position to do much about it.
Biden still has big spending plans.
That's not going to help.
He won't allow us to go get the oil and gas that's under our feet, and there's a little Biden can do about food prices.
This is a political problem.
Working people are taking the worst hit, and that's the Democrat base, or used to be.
It's an economic problem.
We're facing a recession threat, and that's not good right before an election.
I keep saying it.
This reminds me of the 1970s.
That was the last time inflation spiked.
It ended with a severe recession and the landslide defeat of a sitting Democrat president.
That was then.
What is now?
steve bannon
OK, Tuesday, 12 April, Year of Our Lord 2022.
That is signal.
You got Rick Santelli and Stuart Varney and the incredibly bad, epically bad economic news.
Because remember, it's Peter Navarro we talked about this morning.
This is the 81 numbers were the culmination of like from the Arab oil embargo in 73.
The disastrous years of Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter.
It was five or six, you could argue seven years.
That Pete, this is the top of the first thing with this, with these policies.
Stuart Varney walked you through the policies right there.
We walked you through the structural policies and what the Fed's been doing with the easy money, the loose money, the negative interest rates, all that.
Well, chickens are coming home to roost.
Actually, if you think Biden, and that's why we're going to get to the noise in a second, but it's actually a huge tragedy in New York City.
We're going to get Bernie Kerrick here in a minute to talk about this, this massacre.
In New York City, but that's all the mainstream since they can't go to Ukraine.
They got to go to that today because they do not want to dress all day long should just be how did we get into this jam and how do we get out of it?
But the obviously the the legacy media doesn't want to talk about that.
Do we have Joe Joe Manchin provided full beat down on you know, you kind of wonder.
Is Joe Manchin teeing himself up for 2024?
Maybe a primary challenge?
Or run as an independent?
Let's play Joe Manchin about today's inflation report.
unidentified
This inflation is real.
It's harming people.
It's 7.5%.
That's a tax.
And it continues to increase.
It's not decreasing.
So the Feds have to step up to the plate and do something.
The administration has to do.
We all have to work together right now to get our financial house in order.
If not, it's going to be absolutely horrible what it's going to do to the American economy.
This is not a time to be throwing more fuel on the fire.
We have inflation and we have basically an economy that's on fire.
You don't throw more fuel on the fire that's already on fire causing the problems that we have.
So we've got to get our house in order.
steve bannon
He talked about also the lack of action, the lack of leadership, both at the Fed and in the administration, that all their policies have actually worked to fuel inflation.
Of course, wage growth was 5%.
When you take real wages, they were down.
I think real wages are down 3% or more.
Okay.
A lot to get through economically, but we've got to go to what happened in New York City.
It's still, I guess, an active shooting investigation.
Let's bring in Bernie Kerik, former police commissioner.
Bernie, can you lay out the facts for the audience, because all day long CNN and MSNBC, there hasn't been a lot of facts.
There's been some footage of the subway, some other stuff going on.
I just say that this is all part of the anarchy and chaos that has been brought on, and particularly the subways, where the working class of the outer boroughs Have to get to work every day and the way they get around the city, the metropolitan area is, is the, uh, they don't have the money to take Ubers or taxis, right?
They take the buses, which are notoriously not great.
They take the subway and the subway is world famous.
And now it's become a killing.
It's become a killing field up.
Even forget today, you got people being pushed in front of cars, people attack people, knifed.
It's the city is out of the city.
You love is out of control.
The city that you and Rudy.
Help get sorted out is out of control now.
So Bernie, walk us through the fact.
What happened today?
bernard kerik
So at about 8.35 this morning, Steve, a male black, about 5'5", 180 pounds, stocky and built, was wearing a gray sweatshirt.
And according to the police commissioner, a green construction type vest was in a car on the end train heading toward Manhattan.
Stopped on 4th Street, I think, and detonated a smoke grenade in one of the cars.
And as soon as the smoke grenade was detonated, he opened fire, hitting 10 patrons, 10 riders.
When it was all over, said and done, the car stopped, everybody got out.
There were 10 people shot, 28 injured.
He fled the scene.
The investigation commenced.
You know, this is an investigation led by the police department, joined by the FBI and the Joint Terrorist Task Force, the New York State Police.
And that investigation thus far has resulted in a few things, but primarily in the last 15 minutes or so.
The New York City Police Department put out an APB on a U-Haul van with Arizona plates.
They have a description of the plate number.
And they put that out and said it had something to do with this shooting in the 72 precinct.
So that's where they're at thus far.
The investigation, of course, will go on for a number of days.
But I think personally, Steve, as I predicted all day today, they'll have this guy at least identified probably within 24 hours.
It may be a matter of time before they take him into custody, but with the cameras downstairs in the tube, cameras outside, phones pinging the cells, pinging the cell phones off the local towers, they'll be able to identify this guy rather quickly.
And taking him into custody will be another thing.
So we'll see what happens.
steve bannon
When you say the cameras, I heard, wasn't the camera at the, it was a 36-3 station on the line that comes from Brooklyn.
Was it, the camera there didn't work though, did it?
bernard kerik
Yeah, there was cameras down in the tube that some are saying weren't operable.
Keep in mind, I don't know where that is specifically, what cameras weren't operable, but the cameras coming into the station, outside the station, What the Joint Terrorist Task Force and the NYPD will do is they'll take every camera outside.
If you have ring cameras on businesses outside, every camera in that area will be collected.
If they have shot spotter cameras, these are cameras that are in locations that the PD has shot spotters.
What they have, these are technical devices that capture shootings.
If a shot's fired, those cameras flare off into the direction of where the shots were. All of those cameras, any cameras in the area, they'll collect the data from those cameras and they'll analyze them looking for the shooter.
steve bannon
Does MTA has their own police force, correct? It's not part of NYPD, it's affiliated with NYPD?
bernard kerik
Well, that's the Metropolitan Transportation Agency, the MTA, they oversee the mass transit system across New York State.
But the police department, the NYPD, has a transit component, the transit division.
You have a bureau, just like the patrol division, the detective division, they have the transit division, and they have New York City transit cops that work specifically in the New York City subways.
steve bannon
Do you know if there's any reports from the transit cops themselves of what they've been able to ascertain?
Or it just turns out it wasn't one of the cars that they were either in or near?
bernard kerik
No, it doesn't look like there was anybody on site on the scene.
And if you watch any of the footage, I've watched a number of the videos that come out of there thus far.
I didn't see any cops on hand.
That doesn't mean they weren't there.
Keep in mind, one thing that's happened over the last month or so, Steve, Is the mayor is dispatched plainclothes units down into the subways.
We don't know if they were down there or not.
I would think in a situation like this if they were somebody would have confronted this guy if they were in and around that train, but time will tell the investigation will take its course and we'll find out what the next few days.
steve bannon
They've deployed plainclothes because the subways, in your opinion, your professional opinion, have been out of control for a couple of months now?
bernard kerik
No, not a couple of months.
The mass transit system has been out of control since de Blasio was in office.
I mean, he let it squander, if you will.
You had complete cars, Steve, filled with homeless, filled with people with mental issues.
Going to the bathroom in the middle of a car with patrons all around it.
I mean, the anarchy that's been going on within the system has been completely insane.
I always tell people, if Giuliani was the mayor at that point and I was police commissioner, I'd last about 12 hours.
And I'd be fired.
He would never, ever tolerate something like that.
And these guys just let it go.
de Blasio just let it go.
And that's the way it was.
Eric Adams says he's cleaning it up.
But I got to tell you, I listened to his presser today.
You know, we're going to, this is a national issue and we're going to embolden the ATF.
And you know what?
That's all nonsense.
That's all nonsense.
That's political, you know, fodder, if you will.
You know, the bottom line is you want to change what happened in the New York City subway and you want to change the crime stats, get a governor that takes away the bail reform issues that cause some of this stuff, hire a prosecutor that prosecutes people, locks them up and puts them in jail, and let the police department do the job they were sworn to do.
Then you'll reduce crime.
We don't need the ATF to come into New York City to reduce crime and take guns off the streets.
The New York City cops know how to do it, and they do it better than anybody in the country.
Stop the political nonsense, the BS, Do the job you were sworn to do, give the cops the rights and the authority to do what they have to do, and support them when they do it.
That's it.
It's simple.
steve bannon
The press conference was virtue signaling, right?
The ATF is all about, oh, it's all about the guns.
The guns cause the crime.
And didn't he just say, also, and they gave a description, it could be a man or a woman?
Didn't Eric Adams say he was looking for a man or a woman?
bernard kerik
Yeah, I don't know what he was talking about.
steve bannon
By the way, Bernie Carrick, as police commissioner, would you tell the cops, are they looking for a woman or looking for a guy?
bernard kerik
No, you're looking for a black male.
That's what you're looking for.
That's the suspect that was given by the victims.
steve bannon
Bernie, can you stay through the break?
We're going to take a short commercial break in a second.
Before we go, we've got about a minute.
When something like this happens, walk us through the chain of command.
What happens?
Because the day at the press conference, it gets very confusing.
You've got the governor.
You've got somebody steps up from one department from the fire department, somebody steps up from another.
They didn't see they had the Metropolitan Transit Authority.
There was no command presence there.
This is the earlier one that looked like anybody was actually in charge.
Tell you what, Bernie, I want you to answer on the other side.
Here's what was disturbing.
It's a city of chaos and anarchy now, and some of that, I'm sure, is because of de Blasio's the worst mayor in the history of New York.
So says Rudy Giuliani, the greatest mayor in the city of New York's history.
The chaos continues.
I think it's getting worse.
You got a terrible D.A.
that's not focused on getting crime off the street.
You got a mayor that I think the mayor is just a glad hander.
He's all happy talk, right?
I understand he's a former police officer, but he just seems to me to be all happy talk.
Short break, Bernie Kerik, former police commissioner in New York, be back to talk about this unfortunate incident today in the New York City subways.
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Bernie Kerik.
Bernie, didn't, as a member of the Engine Room has informed me in the break, is that the transit cops really got hit.
Did they take a $6 billion?
Didn't Eric Adams and all these geniuses take a $6 billion budget for the police?
And cut $1 billion out of it and put it into social services, thinking that was going to help the crime situation in New York City, sir?
bernard kerik
Yeah, that wasn't Eric Adams.
It was actually de Blasio.
You know, this is when the funding was at the height of the moment.
de Blasio decided he was going to defund the NYPD by a billion dollars and then tried to talk around it saying, no, he really didn't defund, he just moved some money around and you know, put it into some social programs that would help the NYPD.
Here's the bottom line.
If you defund a police department, it has a negative impact on manpower, resources, and training.
Everything you need to reduce crime, to address crime in your city.
So don't tell me you moved a bunch of money around and it made the department bigger and better.
It didn't.
So that's why you're not seeing any positivity when it comes to reducing crime in the city.
I know it can be done.
I've done it.
These guys still, and Eric Adams has been there now, you know, going on five months, six months.
You know, nothing's happened except crime continues to rise.
So you can talk all this nonsense.
You can talk all about the ATF and national programs.
We didn't have none of that.
We had five times, Steve, five times the violent crime and murders they have today.
And we didn't have all these national nonsense that Eric Adams was talking about today.
We sent the cops out to do their jobs.
The mayor pushed the judges and prosecutors to do their jobs and he got the cooperation of the governor to make sure that people were going to jail and staying in jail for violating the law.
That's what Rudy Giuliani did and we dropped violent crime by 65 to 70 percent.
steve bannon
Yeah, it made the city safe and the city flourished after Rudy came in.
That was the great New York City at the height.
Walk people through what's going to happen now.
What's happening right now to catch this guy?
Just walk us through the logistics, the mechanics of what's happening.
bernard kerik
Well, the NYPD has the lead in the investigation.
Unless the FBI determines that this was terrorism, then they'll take it over.
However, they work together.
The FBI Joint Terrorist Task Force, Which consists of New York City cops, FBI agents, the New York State Police, and other federal agencies.
They'll work together, and there's rings of the investigation that start at the scene, start inside the subway, the car where the shooting was, out onto the deck, up the stairs, outside, and a lot of it's gonna have to do with technology, Steve.
There's not many places you can go today where you're not going to be picked up by a camera or your cell phone isn't going to be picked up by a cell site and monitored and tracked.
So a lot of this is going to have to do with data.
A lot of it's going to have to do with technology.
And like I said, I would bet they already have a basic idea who they're looking for.
We know they're looking for this U-Haul van.
I think it's only a matter of time before they have the suspect ID'd.
And then at that point, Once they have him ID'd, then they look for motive.
They look to see if he had accomplices.
They look to see if this was an act of terror, or he was just some lunatic that, you know, found a smoke device, a smoke grenade, dropped it, and started shooting people.
So, time will tell, but I think they'll have him sooner than later.
steve bannon
Bernie, how do people follow you on social media to keep up with the activity?
I know you're on top of it.
bernard kerik
Both Twitter and Getter.
I'm on both.
Bernard Carrick, one word, my first and last name.
steve bannon
Bernie Carrick, former police commissioner of New York City.
Thank you very much for joining us, sir.
bernard kerik
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, another big announcement, another win, and obviously you got to watch this guy because they're sneaky, but Zuckerberg announced today or announced that they're not going to put $400 million towards the 2022 midterms.
Now there's a lot of people looking at it with a jaundiced eye.
The movie Rigged 2020 came out and I think put the pressure on him.
They were going to take spots out there.
They got kicked off the TV, but they caused a national Firestorm.
Let's play the cold open.
We've got one of the stars of the film from Wisconsin, the great state of Wisconsin.
State Representative is going to join us in a second.
Let's see her in the film.
unidentified
The five communities were actually given money to apply for the grant.
Racine was given $100,000 to coordinate with the other four communities.
coordinate with the other four communities.
They were given at least $10,000 each to apply for a grant.
There was no medical staff on CTCL.
CTCL did not have anybody that was a virologist or giving additional medical information.
The emails going back and forth are about buying equipment, buying more mail sorters.
So I think a lot of the clerks and staff felt beholden that if they didn't do what they asked, that they would have to return the money.
What we do know is Michael Spitzer Rubinstein, on election day, was in the counting room in the CHI Center in Green Bay.
Michael Spitzer Rubinstein, he actually was the one on election day that had a tag that said he worked for the city of Green Bay.
He never did.
But here's a guy from New York in the counting room with five out of the six keys to the facility.
It's on the contract from the CHI Center.
A guy from New York has access to the machinery and the ballots on the day before the election.
And it clearly says on the contract, do not open the doors until Michael Spitzer Rubenstein and security comes into the facility at 6 a.m.
steve bannon
Your head blows up when you hear this.
Janelle Branshaw is a state representative from Wisconsin.
Janelle, first of all, thank you for joining us.
Why did President Trump—they had the premiere or the initial screening down in Mar-a-Lago.
It was a who's who.
We did a live cut.
You had Hope Hicks.
You had Kellyanne Conway.
You had Dave Bossie.
You had Corey Lewandowski.
Why did the president ask you to come up—everybody there is telling me he asked you to come up at the end of the film and said that you were a patriot and a star and an American hero.
unidentified
Why did Donald Trump do that, ma'am?
Because he's a really generous man.
It kind of took me by surprise, and I was really honored.
There's no doubt about that.
steve bannon
But what were the actions?
I mean, President Trump's very generous, but when he calls somebody out like that, or calls them up, it's because of actions, actions, actions.
What did you do?
And what does the film show that Trump, with all the VIPs there, say, hey, you're a hero and a patriot?
unidentified
Well, I think the thing is that we have been working at this now for over a year.
The election, what happened in Wisconsin, getting the emails, continuing to get help from the Thomas More Society to get help from, as you've had, Justice Michael Gableman.
We've been working at this and going through the emails, going through the documents, putting the pieces together and finding out that, you know, CTCL had an incredibly strong presence in Wisconsin.
They actually had themselves inserted into the clerk's offices in these five Democrat communities.
And, you know, they really were running these elections.
Like you've just heard, we now have Democrats that are running large parts and, you know, destroying parts of America in the sense of their policing or their lack of policing.
We now have the same thing where they've inserted themselves into the clerk's office, and they are the ones that are not only running elections, these Democrat operatives, but they are providing data and information to swing the vote.
steve bannon
So talk to us about what you found, because I think what people in the audience get concerned about, too, is, number one, every time they pick up the paper, and whether that's the Milwaukee Journal or the New York Times, the Washington Post, it's always, these are fake claims.
These are all lies.
It's all misrepresentations.
unidentified
The most perfect and fair election ever, right?
The most perfect, transparent, And that's at the point where we say, what about CTCL?
What about the issues with not having special voting deputies?
Why not be indefinite confined?
47,000 people in the state of Wisconsin never voted before, marked themselves indefinitely confined, meaning they didn't have to show a photo ID.
Now, I'm not saying that all 47,000 were nefarious.
But in a state won by only 21-some-thousand-odd votes, how can you not look at that and say that was different in 2020 than never before?
And the drop boxes, right?
DTCL funded a lot of these drop boxes, which allowed for trafficking ballots.
steve bannon
How did we get?
We're going to hold you through this break.
We got 30 seconds.
Wisconsin has a history of having, it looks like pretty clean elections, right?
You don't have any early voting.
You got game day voting.
How did this, how did this happen in Wisconsin?
unidentified
No, we do have, we have two weeks of early voting and I think this has been a slow roll and the loss of President Trump in the election, or you would say the rigging, You're saying slow roll.
steve bannon
The Democrats have been at this for a while, but then it was Zuckerberg's $400 million in X amount allocated to Wisconsin.
Tell you what, let's take a short break.
You're the hero of this film.
President Trump called you out for special notification.
He said you were an American hero.
Wisconsin's the hotbed.
We've had Judge Gable in on so many times.
We're going to have Dave Bossi on in the 6 o'clock hour.
Dave just got to his location.
He's going to join us.
Zuckerberg said not going to do it again.
Partly, that's because of this film and the advertising around this film and the marketing push around this film.
Short commercial break.
I'm going to go back to Wisconsin in a moment.
unidentified
You know, it's a big article today about Eastman talking to Robin Voss at some meeting they had up in Wisconsin.
steve bannon
And we're going to talk about that tomorrow show.
Going to have some folks on here talking about it, about the decertification of the Biden electors.
Janelle Branson is the star, one of the stars, but got a special nod from President Trump at the premiere down in Mar-a-Lago.
Janelle, what is to be done now?
I mean, you guys have done a great job.
You've spent a year.
You've gotten a great job at getting the facts, the details, the receipts.
We've had Judge Gabelman on.
He's continuing to hammer.
Thank God for this audience because I think we got his investigation extended.
But tell us, in your mind, what do you think should be done?
Tell us what should be done.
unidentified
Well, I think we'd like to hold people accountable.
I mean, people need to be held accountable either By criminal charges or for the fact that our laws were not being followed.
But I think what you had mentioned in the Zuckerberg article that came out today, the infrastructure has been built, right?
CTCL exists.
They made half a dozen other nonprofits.
And now you have the Biden administration putting out an executive order saying that he is going to fund elections.
How is that going to turn out, right?
Is the writing on the wall that we're going to have more transparency, or are we going to use the municipalities to only go after Democrat cities and Democrat voters?
I mean, I think there's a lot of possibilities, and it's up to us as citizens not only to vote, to be engaged as a poll worker, someone managing the ballots, to be somebody as an observer, a simple observer, Came up with Michael Spitzer Rubinstein.
I mean, one guy made that difference.
We call him the Marine.
He made sure that Michael Spitzer Rubinstein was going to sign that book or we would have never known his name.
There's a lot of opportunities.
It's not enough just to vote.
I need you in the election rooms.
We do to make sure that elections are fair and transparent.
It's going to require all of us working together.
steve bannon
Do you think there's enough here?
Judge Gabelman said he wanted to refer, or at the end of his report, he will refer criminal charges.
Do you think, after your assessment, there's criminal charges here, potentially?
unidentified
Well, think about it.
These five cities took money prior to even applying for these grants.
I don't know about you, but I've never had the opportunity to be given money before we would apply for a grant.
A lot of the information we were just in court and were seen today to make sure that we got all the documents, open records requests.
They still haven't given us all of the emails that go back and forth between these CTCL members.
I mean, at the end of the day, they want to move mails to have Mail-in ballots is the way that all the elections are done.
That is the endgame here.
And we know that that is the greatest opportunity for fraud.
steve bannon
How does it look in Wisconsin about stopping this?
I mean, we've got to get to the bottom of 3 November.
We've got to hold people accountable.
I think we've got to decertify the electors in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona.
And I think we're close in two of those states.
But what has to happen in Wisconsin to make sure they can't steal 2022?
unidentified
We got to be in the counting rooms.
We got to have poll workers.
We got to make this is not the time to quit.
I understand that a lot of people are frustrated because people haven't been brought to justice yet.
But I think as we have, as Justice Gableman's done good work, and we've certainly supported it.
I think the end game here is to if there's an ability to have criminal charges, If there's ability to hold clerks responsible and individuals from out of state trying to play political games with our votes.
These are all things that again, it's not just going to be representative Branson.
It's going to be all of us working together because listen, transparency is going to require voters to not just vote anymore, but to make sure that they are participating in elections, including the two weeks before the elections as well.
steve bannon
Janelle, how do people get to you to find out more about you, your story, and particularly how we work together going forward to make sure we don't have this issue?
unidentified
Oh, I appreciate that.
I'm at representativebranson.com, but I think more important, I want people to go to rig2020.com.
Watch the movie.
I mean, there's still a lot of people that don't understand just how big CTCL played in the 2020 election, and it can never happen again.
We can never have private dollars.
Or a guy from New York flying into the city of Green Bay and create a data system that allows them a real-time process and to use these Dropboxes to game the system.
And I think you're going to see more of that next month that we have with the 2000 Mule movie that's coming up.
We had a hearing on that as well, that we had 138 people make almost 3,800 stops at Dropboxes in Milwaukee, Green Bay, and Racine.
138 people.
That's almost 25 to 35 different stops at these drop boxes.
We have more to talk about.
We have better ways to catch people.
And we are getting smarter.
We are working smarter in Wisconsin to make sure that we do have real transparency, not just rhetoric.
steve bannon
Representative Janelle Branschen, thank you very much for joining us here in the War Room.
And Donald Trump's right.
You are a hero and a patriot, ma'am.
unidentified
Well, it's a privilege being here, and like I say, we've got to work at this to make sure it never happens again, and we can never drop the ball, right?
steve bannon
Amen.
Keep fighting.
Fight on!
unidentified
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Thank you, ma'am.
Thank you for being here.
I tell you, the folks up in Wisconsin, Branchin, you got Gabelman, these are tough hombres.
Gotta get to the bottom of this thing.
And I realize it's frustrating for people, particularly when you see the evidence there.
And I do agree, the RIG 2020 has been spectacular.
I want everybody to see it.
Dinesh's movie, I'm hearing the same thing, 2000 Mules.
Okay, very honored to have in-house Captain Hung Kao.
I just got over from the Supreme Court over there protesting, a peaceful protest.
Running in Virginia 10 for Congress in a Republican primary.
It's going to be, what, 21 May.
Tell us your story first, before we get to why you're at the Supreme Court today.
And so many people I know and really respect in the national security community and the military recommended that we get you on at what time.
Tell us your back story.
How did you actually get here?
unidentified
Oh, thank you, Steve.
Again, such an honor to be here.
I can't believe I'm in the actual war room.
But I came here at the age of four as a Vietnamese refugee, and my parents, you know, basically, we had to exfil out of there quickly.
My mom was sewing notes into our clothes, little money just to say, this is my son, please take care of him in case we get separated and at one point with five kids they had to decide which kids to leave behind if they had to.
But you know by the grace of God we all came over here and then we moved to Africa.
So I'm African-American too in case you wonder.
Now I grew up in Africa and then it came back here at the age of 12 where I learned English.
And I went to this prestigious school.
steve bannon
So you didn't speak English until 12?
unidentified
No I spoke French and Vietnamese.
And then, so I came over here and went to, there's this brand new school that started called Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology in Alexandria, Virginia.
Amazing school.
I was the first class to ever graduate from that school.
And that's why we're there today.
It's because, you know, the unfair practices of how they admit students in now is lowering the standards.
And not only that, it decreased the populace from 73% Asian to 53% Asian.
steve bannon
And so what was the... they've had a court case that the appellate court has passed on to the Supreme Court?
unidentified
Yes, so the appellate case overturned the lower court's decision that said that it was racist for them to change the entrance criteria, but Attorney General Jason Miaros had basically filed a lawsuit to overturn that decision.
steve bannon
So how did you become a Navy captain?
I mean, I was a lieutenant.
Captain Bannett is an Army captain.
You're like right below flag officer.
How do you...
Learn English at 12, and then get into the United States Navy, and you're what?
Are you EOD?
unidentified
Yes, EOD and deep-sea diving.
steve bannon
Are you a frogman?
unidentified
No, so I work with the frogmen, but I dove deep, you know, and I defuse bombs, which is pretty easy.
You know, you got two wires, so you cut one, and you got a 50-50 chance.
What do they call it?
steve bannon
One cut from paradise?
unidentified
Exactly.
You always cut the red wire in case you wonder.
No, I went to the United States Naval Academy, graduated from there.
I was one of six people in my class to be selected for the Special Operations Program, which is EOD and diving.
And of that class, of the six, I was the only one to be selected for command and then went on to be a Navy captain.
So I just retired last October after leaving Afghanistan in January.
steve bannon
Walk us through a couple of combat tours.
unidentified
Yes, so I've been to Iraq several times, Afghanistan, Somalia, just serving alongside our SEALs and our Green Berets.
steve bannon
What inspired you, coming from Vietnam, the horror of the war there, what inspired you to go to the Naval Academy and to serve your adopted country?
unidentified
So, you know, this country gave us everything.
I mean, we – America gives you this ladder of opportunity, but you still have to climb up yourself.
And I remember in 1979 in Niger, Africa, where the Shah of Iran had been overthrown, and the Marines took us in to – and guarded us.
And they stood watch over us that night and said, nothing's going to happen to you, not on my watch.
And I wanted to be like those guys.
I wanted to be those heroes that stood over us and said, nothing's going to happen to you.
And that's why I served.
Because I wanted to make sure my kids don't grow up in a world where they wake up one morning and not have a flag to stand under or a country to call their own.
steve bannon
So twice in your life, one as a very small child, and then later as a child, you both were, I guess, extracted from tough situations with the help of the United States military, and that's why you decided to make it a career.
unidentified
Yes, absolutely.
I mean, there's no greater service than the United States Navy, or the Armed Forces, actually.
I served with all five military forces, and they're all amazing.
steve bannon
Okay, so why is a guy with a great record, highly regarded, I've had so many people call me and say, you've got to get the captain on, Naval Academy grad, why do you want to get into the nasty, because politics today is all the politics of personal destruction.
With your career, your background, you could retire and go do, be a consultant, do anything.
Why do you choose to get, and particularly Loudoun County?
I mean, Northern Virginia is now just a snake pit.
That is as tough as it gets there because of all the situations with the schools and everything like that.
Why would you do that?
unidentified
That's a great question.
I left a career of honor to come to this, honestly, but it's one of those things where when the Kabul fell, and I had just been there six months before, it just reminded me of how Vietnam fell.
I mean, it's just how mothers are handing babies, men are falling from planes.
You know, just trying to hang on to the landing gear.
And it's just, you know, this is not how we are as Americans.
And then on top of that, my friends being kicked out of the military for, you know, basically the military not recognizing their religious rights.
You know, their choice for not getting a vaccine.
I'm not an anti-vaxxer.
I'm just saying that we have a choice.
This is the democracy and the freedom that we fought for.
And this is wrong.
steve bannon
So it was really last spring or summer when you started getting this idea.
This hasn't been percolating for a long time.
It really came up like last year.
unidentified
Yes, it's basically in September last year and watching the cobble fall was just the tipping point.
steve bannon
So you basically called back to service?
Yes, sir.
So walk through, what are the two or three things, I mean, what do you base this campaign on then?
If that's the emotional motivation, I've got to go do this.
We've got a minute, we'd like to hold you through the break.
What is it that you think has to happen in the country, or up in this snake pit of Capitol Hill, what is Captain Hung Kao going to do?
unidentified
So one of the things I did in the military was I wrote the Navy's $140 billion budget.
I know how to balance it.
And right now, today, the inflation rate is 8.5%.
That's 6.5% more than what we anticipate for every year, the inflation rate.
steve bannon
So that means... When you were doing, when you were budgeting, and then the planning department over at the Pentagon, that was, it was 2%, or 2.5% is what you were forecasting.
And now we're at 8.5%.
You understand it's unsustainable, correct?
unidentified
And it's $45.5 billion.
If you look at a $700 billion budget for the entire Department of Defense, that's $45.5 billion we're in the hole for.
That's four aircraft carriers.
That's 37 guided missile destroyers.
That's 335 F-35s.
Do you think we need that going against China?
steve bannon
Wow.
Impressive.
Okay, can you hang with us for a second?
unidentified
Absolutely.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
The captain is going to join us on the other side.
He has left a profession of honor, he's a naval officer, left a profession of honor to get into the snake pit of elective politics.
But hey, somebody's got to do it right.
They've got to be those heroes that step into the breach.
That's what this is all about.
Whether you're at a school board, whether you're running for an election official, the House, the Senate, or even like Donald Trump.
Donald Trump gave a great life to step in and save his country.
unidentified
Captain Hung Kao next in the war room.
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Okay, Captain Hung Thao, Hung Thao, you've done your, you've served your nation.
You've come out of the Navy as a Navy Captain, so long career, storied career.
You're now into elective politics.
What separates you out?
You're in a tough primer.
It's 11 other candidates.
What separates you out from these other candidates, sir?
unidentified
Well, we're in a 44 to 48 percent minority district.
And what I think Virginia's told the electorates last year was they want somebody who looks like them, right?
That's why we have Lieutenant Governor Winston Sears, Attorney General Jason Muiris.
We need to flip the Democrat playbook on their face.
Throw it back in their face.
steve bannon
Their whole playbook is racism.
That the Republican Party is a bunch of white nationalists.
unidentified
Exactly.
I mean, do I look like one to you?
steve bannon
And so you think you can take it to the Democrat?
unidentified
Absolutely.
I mean, we've got huge coalitions behind us.
The Iranian-Americans who fled during the Shah came there.
The Chinese-Americans, the Vietnamese-Americans have mobilized with me across the entire nation.
And, you know, the Korean-Americans, but also the veterans, and also just patriots.
Patriots all together who just want someone with fire in their belly and who knows they'll fight for them.
I mean, a lot of people say they'll fight for you, but how many people would put their life on the line for our values?
steve bannon
Well, look, I keep telling people it's authenticity, fight, and the ability to take political pain.
Let's talk about that political pain for a second.
I don't think there's any doubt, your authenticity and your fight.
This model, and you know this as a finance guy also, besides being a warrior, this is just not sustainable.
You saw today with the inflation.
But part of that's driven by just this spending, and because we've been the prime reserve currency, we've had the luxury Of actually continuing to print money, having the Fed print money.
Even the Biden administration is saying that's going to stop, right?
Sometime quickly.
What's your recommendation?
As you see this going forward, what would be your recommendation of how you actually get this on a sustainable business model for the country?
unidentified
Well, I mean, there are kids running around with a credit card.
What's the first thing you do?
Cut the credit card.
I mean, you have to balance that budget.
Balance the Navy's budget.
And we need to stay and live within our means.
And we need to basically be energy independent, which we were a year and a half ago under President Trump.
And that drives up the cost of everything.
I mean, today he wanted to put ethanol all the way through the summer months.
I mean, so what about the... Do you cut the defense?
steve bannon
Look, if you count the defense, the games up here you're going to see.
When you count everything for the defense budget, it's a trillion dollars.
Do you, and they're talking about increasing the defense budget, if you do that, the Democrats get an increase in the social justice warrior budget.
Do you think, in today's geopolitical situation, particularly with the Chinese Communist Party looking at the South China Sea and Taiwan, and trying to consolidate the Eurasian landmass, don't we have to, and it doesn't have to be guys like yourself that sit there and go, we gotta stop, this defense spending cannot continue to grow.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely places trimmed.
Everybody has places trimmed, and the problem is when they pass a one-year budget, and this year they pass it after the mid-year execution, which means they've already been marked for not executing it at the half-year mark.
Well, you know, this stifles growth, it stifles innovation from the industry.
We need to pass a two-year budget so that companies can... Two-year defense budget?
Yes, sir.
steve bannon
And so companies can do what?
unidentified
So they can innovate.
I mean, right now companies are just struggling to make ends meet because they can't go on pinky promises from the government, right?
They've got to be able to budget and know what they're allotted to spend.
steve bannon
You know the inside of that budget well enough.
You think you can walk up here at Capitol Hill day one and be a value-added member of the House.
You go to the Armed Services Committee.
Because, look, some of the hits on John McCain and other guys who were You can go to every line item and see where it's spent and where they did not spend that, and that's when you pull that line item.
and back of it is different than even our needs. You've really got to understand the arcane nature of how this budget goes. You can add value day one?
unidentified
Yes, you can go to every line item and see where it's spent and where they did not spend that and that's when you pull that line item and then you can also see where there's unexpected growth. Okay, how do people find out more about you Because the story is quite amazing.
steve bannon
How do they find out more about you personally?
And how do they find out more about your campaign?
unidentified
It's www.hungcalforcongress.com.
So it's H-U-N-G-C-A-L-F-O-R- C-O-N-G-R-E-S-S-T-O-C-O-M.
steve bannon
And Captain Hung Cal, how about social media?
unidentified
Oh yes, we're on Facebook, at Hunkal for Congress, and as well as for Twitter, Hunkal for Congress.
steve bannon
Now the captain scene, as a former naval officer, I've got John Paul Jones.
We haven't figured out how to actually situate the great John Paul Jones, this portrait, that fabulous painting that one of the audience members got us.
But I had to say this, Captain Ben has been blowing me up.
She's got to tell you, you know, go Army, beat Navy.
So I think she was 7-0 or 8-0 against Navy as a volleyball player.
So thank you so much.
You've lived up to your billing.
People have wanted me to have you on the show for a long time.
It just worked out.
You were at the Supreme Court.
And thank you so much for coming.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
And I want to give you one of my coins.
Fantastic.
I know it says, my congressman's hung.
But in Vietnamese, it means brave.
steve bannon
Show what you got there, right in the camera.
unidentified
Yeah, right here.
steve bannon
In Vietnamese, that's in Vietnamese.
That's brave.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
So thank you so much, Captain.
Such an honor to have you on.
We have Cynthia Hughes, Cynthia from the Patriots of Freedom Project.
You're going to join us in the second hour.
We're going to talk about how we actually get cards and letters.
To the political prisoners and how people are going to write them, what the address has got to be.
Cynthia Hughes, thank you so much for joining us.
We're going to, I tell you what, let's hold Cynthia.
We're going to go through, we got the next hour, we got Mike Cernovich, we have Cynthia Hughes, we got Dave Bossie, Michael Patrick Leahy, Robbie Starbuck.
He's running for Congress.
Robbie's running for Congress.
We're going to find out today from Leahy and from Robbie.
Is he going to be on the ballot or not?
Out in Tennessee, they're having a real throwdown.
Okay, short commercial break.
We're going to be back with War Room Battleground with Mike Cernovich in just a moment.
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