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Episode 1,766 - How Zuckerberg Stole The 2020 ElectionEpisode 1,766 - How Zuckerberg Stole The 2020 Election
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On the day that he was inaugurated, The Washington Post did an article on impeaching him.
I, Donald John Trump, do solemnly swear... Donald J. Trump is now President of the United States.
They had an absolute, legitimate meltdown.
If you try to change a system that big, the system fights back.
The story behind the biggest election takeover in history.
We're only now being able to finally confirm exactly how this worked.
Mark Zuckerberg and his wife are donating more money to local governments ahead of the election.
$100 million on top of a $300 million gift.
The most money any individual has ever spent to win a presidential campaign in the history of our country.
I actually became infuriated that someone had allowed Zuckerberg to tip the scale.
The election was bought way before election day.
They stole it fair and square.
They changed the voting rules in the middle of the game.
A nation divided.
This was the greatest billionaire assault on election integrity we've ever seen.
A billionaire-funded plot against the president.
Do you believe that they used the COVID emergency as an excuse to pull this partisan voter turnout operation?
Am I allowed to give you a one-word answer?
answer? Yes.
It was really a partial takeover of the election system.
I don't think we have to blame China or voting machines.
I think we can look straight in the eye of Mark Zuckerberg and that's why Joe Biden won.
That's what this was.
A corrupt, democratic voter turnout operation.
You had them putting their own personnel in to actually run the election in places.
You had an entire Democratic Party petrified that Joe Biden was going to be outspent, outboxed by Trump.
Rigged.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It was a rigged election.
People have to find out what happened Incredibly powerful trailer on an incredibly powerful film By the way, for the audience, we're going to try to get Dr. Naomi Wolf back up later in this hour before Mark Brnovich, the AG of Arizona.
And we want to get the breaking news she's got about the Pfizer investigation.
So we're going to get all this packaged up for you.
I want to thank Real America's Voice, all of our distribution platforms, John Furtick's Radio Network, G News, and Mandarin.
Now with the new Getter app we're going to announce tomorrow, I think we can be in 10 languages simultaneously.
I just want to thank all the folks over there, and of course the podcast.
If you want to download that later in the day, we take the show and put it up on a podcast.
I think it's 165 million, 170 million downloads on the podcast.
I want to thank everybody.
The campaign manager for 2016, Kellyanne Conway, a friend and colleague for many, many years, one of the stars of this movie.
unidentified
Kellyanne, Politico today, it's so great.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You guys have this amazing screening.
You've got a who's who of kind of the Trump advisors there, people very close to the president.
And of course, I think Meredith McGraw comes out with a piece.
Oh, are these guys just the real hearts into this?
You know, is this just looking too much in the past and elections about the future?
You've been doing this your entire adult life.
What's the people that keep saying, oh, you got to focus on the future.
And any time spent on 3 November is just a waste of time.
And this is really Trump's inner circle from Hope Hicks to Kellyanne to Bossie, just trying to make the president feel better.
And there's really nothing here.
You're one of the stars of this film, and obviously you're one of the biggest voices in the Trump movement.
What's the purpose of RIGGED?
And what's the purpose of us focusing on 3 November, ma'am?
unidentified
Hey Steve, thanks for having me.
Congratulations on your continued success here.
This is very simple.
Mark Zuckerberg, through two nonprofits, funneled about $400 million, close to a half a billion dollars, into, quote, COVID-compelled voting, get-out-the-vote efforts, more Dropboxes, universal mail-in ballots, etc.
But then one has to ask, of the 160 largest grants, those are more than $400,000 each, Why did they go to 92% of the districts in the precincts that Joe Biden won?
If you're concerned about all of us being safe and free to be able to go ahead and compete in this election, vote in this past election because of COVID, then why not give everybody that kind of opportunity?
Look, David Plouffe, who had my job for Obama in 2008, smart guy, he wasn't talking about COVID.
and voting. He was talking about politics. He very clearly says in Bossy's fantastic movie, everybody should see 42 minutes rigged 2020, download it, watch it, absorb it and learn it, memorize it.
David Plouffe says there, Steve, that look, Donald Trump got about 1.6 million votes in Wisconsin in 2016.
He surprised us all.
He won the presidency.
He's going to get more than that this time, so we have to get a little bit more than the 1.6 he gets.
And, you know, lo and behold, they do.
And Zuckerberg focuses mainly that money on three states, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Georgia.
I know these are going to sound familiar to your listeners.
It's important that we know what was done long before Election Day.
You know, Steve, in reaction to a lot of the Zuck Bucks, as they're called, you have state legislatures now trying to pass laws that prevent this kind of massive private funding from tipping the balance, from making one vote, one person less valuable in the future.
So, that is important.
That is talking about the future, number one.
Number two, hey, Steve, back in 2016, when you and Balcy and I were there?
What did Mark Zuckerberg do?
Very little.
It was a level playing field.
He was ecumenical.
Facebook allowed the Trump 2016 campaign this great platform.
We paid our money, we sent a check, we sent the credit card, and boom!
We could have social media ads on Facebook, on Google, on YouTube.
50% social media ads, including on Facebook, 50% traditional TV ads.
Hillary Clinton's campaign over in Brooklyn, they were doing mostly TV ads because they had the dough to do it.
We were under-resourced, under-staffed, of course underestimated, underdog, but we were able to use social media to our advantage.
Zuckerberg took a lot of heat for that.
After Trump won, not only were people upset, crying in the movie and elsewhere, but they were shocked and people like that don't like to be shocked.
Zuckerberg took a lot of heat in Silicon Valley and afterward.
You helped Donald Trump win.
You should have stopped it.
He didn't do anything.
He offered us an embed.
Facebook let us run our ads, but that was not going to happen again in such a way.
They wanted to come out.
I'll tell you what, they did it right under our noses the way we did it under theirs in 2016.
This movie is important because people aren't just talking about stolen election fraud, this, that, and the other voting machines.
They're talking about the Zuck bucks.
I think it's a twofer for independence and for the MAGA movement.
Number one, so that you see the kind of money that was being spent under the guise of COVID.
And number two, don't lose the role of big tech in all this, folks.
You're worried about the tech oligarchs.
You're worried about censorship.
You're worried about them tipping the scales.
You're worried about the left-wing cesspool that Twitter has become.
OK, well, here's a twofer for you.
And people just have to follow the money and watch this 42-minute outstanding film that Dave Bossie has really done everybody a service because it's a new way of talking about it.
One last thing, you asked about the Politico article and of course every election is about the future, but they're also about the past in this way.
What is the first thing Donald Trump said according to the Politico piece when he stood up the other night and addressed the audience at dinner?
He talked about what was happening in Ukraine.
He's talking about what's happening with energy dependence.
He's talking about inflation, the cost of gas, the cost of groceries.
That is talking about the past because in the past, not so long ago, Steve, We had $2 gasoline under Donald Trump.
We weren't paying this for meat and milk and diapers.
We weren't having Russia in Ukraine.
We weren't having Iran salivating over John Kerry's fecklessness and Joe Biden's recklessness and getting back in the nuclear capability.
We didn't have President Xi of China within his wingspan, $85 billion worth of our intelligence and our equipment because of the chaotic, deadly, unnecessary withdrawal from Afghanistan.
So you bet that Donald Trump's going to talk about the past as a link to the future because you know what the media fear?
They don't want to talk about Donald Trump's accomplishments because they don't want to talk about the rematch.
If you allow Donald Trump to talk about 2017 to 2021, you're allowing him to talk about prosperity, opportunity, security, lower crime rates, more border security, Putin not in Ukraine, Xi not in salivating over the equipment we left behind in Afghanistan, Iran at bay, to 2021 you're allowing him to talk about prosperity Opportunity security lower crime rates more border security Putin not in Ukraine She not in salivating over the equipment we left behind in Afghanistan Iran at bay Israel safe and protected and just the prosperity and the trade deals and everything They don't want they don't want Donald Trump to talk about the past because the past is what people actually want in
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
the future get back to that prosperity opportunity security affordability I Don't want to answer for a commitment to take over the campaign in We'd leave that to another day, but that was a perfect, I think, compare and contrast to where we are.
Real quickly, in Arizona, we're going to have Judge Gabelman on tonight.
He was there at the premiere.
I think Gabelman may even be in the film.
We're going to have Rathmund tomorrow morning, who's got the proposal to decertify in Wisconsin.
We're going to have Attorney General Brnovich on in a few minutes about his letter, Kellyanne, you've seen this, about the mail-in ballots, about this preliminary, interim report he's got.
Georgia Purdue's got this 140,000 ballot lawsuit that's making its way through the courts.
We just had one of the gentlemen on the other day about how powerful this is and how it already shows fraud.
In those three areas, in your mind, or let me say it differently, in this film, does this make the case that Zuckerberg and the guys were just smarter And game the system unfairly?
Or do you think this backs up those efforts in Wisconsin, in Arizona, in Georgia, to actually get to the bottom of this thing about whether it was stolen or not in 2020?
unidentified
Ma'am?
kellyanne conway ▲ ● ▼
I think the easy part to understand, Steve, is the former, which is that if you just look at the money, and we know money is the mother's milk of politics, I get it, but there's a reason that we have limited individual contributions.
unidentified
There's a reason that any man or woman in this country can only give so much.
We don't want people to be able to give so much that they're buying the election, that they're funneling their money through different ways.
And I think this goes back to COVID as a reason and as an excuse.
So obviously the beginning COVID was a reason.
Kids are home from school, people are out of work, 15 days is slow to spread, all of that.
But you fast forward to the elections, and that was long after everybody said, go have a nice summer.
And then we get to a new school year in 2020.
They say, oh, the kids have to be back on the screens.
I think it helped young kids, it helped a lot of other, it's really helping the whole school choice movement.
Why do I say this?
Because by that time, COVID is not just a reason, it's an excuse.
And it allows them to say under the cover of COVID, of a once a century pandemic, we can do this because we're trying to be helpful.
And I think those guys in Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, whatever they're producing on their own, they should take a look at this film.
And I feel comfortable talking about how smart and savvy the Democrats were.
They were not going to get fooled again by Donald Trump.
And something I said in the movie, I'd like to expand upon here.
Imagine being a Democrat, Steve.
Imagine being the Democrat Party.
And you had 25 or so Democrats running for president.
You had one of everything.
You had a black man, a black woman, a Hispanic man.
You had American Samoan.
By the way, that's Tulsi Gabbard, not Elizabeth Warren.
You had a socialist female.
You had a socialist male.
You had the first openly gay presidential candidate who got pretty far.
They had everything to show that they are progressive and future-oriented.
And who the hell did they end up with?
Joe Biden.
So they were petrified.
How are we going to get this guy across the finish line?
We're going to keep him out of view.
We're going to bury him in the basement.
And we're going to make sure that people know when to vote, where to vote.
Now, on its face, I think that the defense that the media and Zuckerberg would use is, well, what's wrong with helping people figure out how to vote during a pandemic?
Why is that so bad?
In principle, it's not so bad.
The question is, why wasn't it for everybody?
Why did the 160 largest grants of 400,000 or more go to 92% Biden precincts?
That's the answer that we need.
Because also in Georgia, we have Stacey Abrams doing her thing.
We have these other people doing it.
So I feel comfortable saying the first part and we'll leave it to the others to do the second part.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, the movie is rigged.
Also, you've got a, I know you've got to bounce, but you've got a big book coming out.
Can people get, what's the date of the release of the book?
unidentified
The date of the release is May 24th.
I can't wait to be on your show about it.
Thank you.
And you'll have a trip down memory lane.
Some tough stuff in there for all of us.
But I'll tell you what, you can pre-order it now.
It's called Here's the Deal.
You can get it at Barnes & Noble, Amazon, wherever you want to get it.
It's a great memoir and people will really enjoy it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's going to be the beach read of the summer of 2022, I take it.
So that book comes out the 24th.
That's also the date of the, I think, Alabama and the Georgia primaries.
So it's a big day.
Kellyanne, how do people follow you on social media?
We're going to put the rigged up in all of Bossy's context.
How do people follow you on social media?
unidentified
Sure.
So I have a new website, kellyanneconway.com, easy enough.
And I'm at, at kellyannepolls on Twitter, at Kellyanne P-O-L-L-S on Twitter.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Kellyanne, thank you for joining us.
It's an honor to have you on here.
Star turn in the movie, and we're going to make sure we push it.
Everybody's got to see this.
Rigged.
The movie.
Rigged 2020.
Kellyanne, thank you.
Okay, short commercial break.
I think we're going to come back with Claudia Tenney.
We're going to try to get her up.
If we can't, we've got Naomi Wolf, we've got Ben Harnwell, we've got Brnovich, the Attorney General, coming on.
All next in The War Room.
unidentified
War Room, pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room, pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Oh Oh Okay, I want to make sure everybody goes to rig the movie.
We're going to put this up.
They had the big Mar-a-Lago situation.
I also want to put up the Politico story.
Captain Bennett, if you can put the Politico story up.
I want everybody to read that because Politico took a hit.
Took a hit right on the movie and on the gathering of all the senior Trump people.
Saying they're spending too much time thinking about the past and not the future.
But I want everybody to go see that.
I think we got Judge Gableman tonight.
I think we're going to have Rathman tomorrow.
Rathman's down for the Cary Lake at Mar-a-Lago, where Mike Lindell was.
Also, about the Pfizer investigation, we're going to try to get Naomi Wolf, Dr. Naomi Wolf, on by phone here momentarily.
She had a Skype problem.
I want to go to Rome, though.
Ben Harnwell.
So, Ben, let's connect some dots, and I know you're going to put these articles up, but what we know today is that we have a situation, and let's connect some dots here, on both capital markets, economics, geopolitics, and national security.
We have articles saying that the reason that Germany refuses to get off the Russian natural gas is that their entire economy, the entire structure of the German economy, one of the most powerful I think it's three and a half or four trillion dollars today.
That entire economy is predicated upon cheap Russian gas coming through Ukraine but eventually going to come and be directed around Ukraine with the Nord Stream.
And so their entire economy is based upon that.
And the Greens, and now we know from there's reporting that the Greens have been taking money from the Russians.
For years to shut down nuclear power and to decarbonize these economies.
And so they're up against the wall and it'll be a catastrophic decision.
They have to talk, you know, the Financial Times said that they'd have to start rationing, right?
So you have that, so you don't have the Germans backing off there.
Then, on the other hand, there's a new report today that Macron is going his own way with this negotiation with the Russians, different than what the Polish and what the Eastern Europeans want to do.
They think the Americans are being too aggressive.
They think it's another alternative.
And yes, that's related to the New York Times piece yesterday that says, hey, that they're right, that we've been able to shift the entire conversation in France over With National Rally and Front National and some more in the entire team we've been able to shift that totally all those issues now over to the right.
And Macron's in real trouble because Le Pen is closing, right?
And it looks like Zemmour, when he throws his support to her in the runoff, this could be a real dogfight and not a replay of 2017.
And Macron, obviously concerned about that, he's going his own way, the separate negotiations.
So it's what we've been saying from day one, is that Europe has got to get its own mind right on what has to happen.
And don't listen to the spin On these Americans in the State Department, in the National Security Apparatus, on MSNBC and CNN, all day long, just like they had Fauci up there all day long, or the election guys up there all day long, to tell you to spend you differently.
Because this is the Europeans actually coming.
We said this is a border dispute on the eastern border of Ukraine.
And it's about, and they keep saying it, it's the territorial integrity, the sovereignty, the territorial integrity, and the self-determination of the Ukrainian people over there.
That's right.
It's a, it's a European issue, and you have the Europeans, and this is what's such a scam, and why the pom-poms on Fox, and the pom-poms on MSNBC and CNN, and a lot of conservative media, you've got to understand what the power dynamics here.
This is the reason America didn't want to get into World War I. And after World War I, we didn't support the League of Nations, and we don't want to have nothing else to do with it.
People didn't look back at World War I in fond memories.
Trust me, you go back and look at the literature at the time, they were not fond memories.
Okay, we came in and we were the closing, we closed that war down with our young men and women, right?
There was not, we didn't want to get involved.
And remember, I keep saying, we got attacked at Pearl Harbor, we did not declare war on Germany.
They declared war on us on December 11th, four days later.
And then we got into it.
We had been planning for it, but they understood the American people didn't want to do it.
And we got involved in the Cold War.
We had to.
And President Reagan came in and took down the evil empire three times.
A trifecta in the 20th century.
The bloodiest century in mankind's history.
You do not walk into these situations in Europe, and particularly over the Eurasian landmass, where we've never really been engaged.
Right?
Unless you've really thought it through and understand what the power dynamics and who's benefiting.
And we can't get played again.
The reason we can't get played again, we have a trillion dollar defense budget.
They're talking about increasing it again.
Hell, I was in the Navy for eight years.
My daughter's a West Point grad.
We're as pro-military as possible.
And actually put skin in the game and go serve.
Volunteer and go serve.
And don't make a career of it.
Go serve and then come back into civilian life.
And we think this thing is madness.
Ben Harnwell, give me the perspective from Europe.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Morning, Steve.
unidentified
Well, let me start in Strasbourg.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
There was a full plenary session of the European Parliament meeting this week and they voted on an emergency resolution and here's the title of that resolution.
It was published about four or five hours ago.
MEPs demand full embargo on Russian imports of oil, coal, nuclear fuel and gas.
And the resolution was adopted with 513 votes to 22 against and 19 abstentions.
And the MEPs called for an additional punitive measures, including, and I quote, an immediate full embargo on Russian imports.
So I phoned up, as you know, I used to work at the European Parliament.
I phoned them up, I said, I've got this resolution in my hands, very powerfully worded.
What legal effect does it have?
It looks like a pause for a few seconds.
And the press officer said, it doesn't really have any legal force.
It's the European Parliament expressing its opinion.
I said, all right.
OK, thanks.
Have you had any communication from Germany about this resolution yet?
And they said, no.
And I said, so it's just basically performative.
And that is exactly the situation, Steve.
This is exactly the situation that the European Union is.
And we've been on this right from the beginning.
So let's look at the facts to see why the European Parliament is reduced to simply this performative posturing.
The European Union has spent how much money?
35 billion on Russian fuel since the start of the war on the 24th of February.
And that's basically a billion euros a day.
How much money has the European Union given to Ukraine since the beginning of this crisis to help Ukraine?
One billion euros.
So in total.
So the amount of money.
that the European Union has given since the beginning to Ukraine is exactly what we're giving to to Russia on a day by day basis.
And that is the situation that we're in.
And the reason is, as we said right from the beginning, Germany, the economic motor of the European Union is dependent up to 57 percent of its domestic gas production from from on Russia.
And that's why we that's why we're there.
So what is the response to the European Union to this situation?
Because now we're going to go into the real meat of this.
Polish prime minister.
unidentified
Thank you.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Mateusz Morawiecki said, anyone who reads the transcripts of EU meetings will know that Germany is the biggest break when it comes to more decisive sanctions.
That's it.
The European, inside the European Union, forget the posturing of the resolutions and the press releases and the photos and the visits of dignitaries out to Ukraine and putting their arms around the shoulders of Zelensky.
The real reality is, is Germany is not moving.
And the reason Germany is not moving And now we're going to tie another dot.
It's because it would be electoral suicide, right?
This is why we're going to tie another dot and go over to France now.
What is the situation happening in France?
Well, Macron is basically the most perfect example of a semi-competent political opportunist.
that exists in the European Union, totally unideological in any direction.
And he won election explicitly by saying, I'm not on the left, I'm not on the right.
I just, you know, I'll go for what works for France.
If anything, he's more of a globalist than a nationalist.
But he's absolutely hated on the ground.
And he's been hated on the ground, really hated and loathed since the rise of the Yellow Jackets movement and fuel prices in France now are well above what they were at the beginning of those protests.
And what is the real consequence of this?
On the 18th of March, Macron was on 30 percent, OK, and Le Pen was on 17 percent.
Right.
20 days on, Macron has fallen three points to 27 percent and Le Pen is up to 22 percent.
She's only 5 percent behind.
Now, these are the polls.
We know what the polls are like because we saw them in 2016 in the States.
We saw them in Brexit.
We saw them in Hungary.
So there's obviously playing it down on them.
This is why Marine Le Pen has a very real chance, a very real chance of beating Macron, which would be It would be difficult to describe, because I think you said at the beginning of the show, right?
The European Union is basically a Franco-German project.
It would be difficult to describe the absolute transformative... It's huge.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Ben, real quickly, you're going to be on at noon, right after the show, with your Harnwell 5 or 10 minute assessment of this?
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Absolutely, yeah.
Absolutely.
I'm going to be doing a deep dive today, actually, on NATO.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
OK, fine.
Perfect.
This is even better.
Here's my point.
We're being drawn... We've got an economy that's collapsing.
OK, we've got an invasion on the southern border.
We've got this illegitimate regime that is out of control on every aspect of American life, business life, financial life, geopolitically.
And we're being sucked in every day by our elites into a conflict on the Eurasian landmass.
And there's a conflict on the Eurasian landmass we should do, and that's in the South China Sea in defense of Taiwan, which is Silicon Valley West, to take down the illegal criminal conspiracy in Beijing of the Chinese Communist Party.
Cut the snake off from the head.
Instead, we're being sucked into a European war which we've resisted for a hundred years and always been sucked into them.
And this, the power players, the German industrialists, don't want or are not going to do it.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Because they're going to have to restructure the economy and they're not going to make as much money.
And Macron is now seeing what happened in Hungary, and he's tap dancing around.
And he's breaking with the West.
And yet every day, non-stop, it's cheerleading, cheerleading, cheerleading.
Okay.
Ben, see you back at noon, right after this with Harnwell, on Getter, at Harnwell.
Go there.
Amazing stuff.
We'll be putting it up on all different platforms in the chat rooms.
Mark Brnovich, the Attorney General of the great state of Arizona.
Lit it up yesterday with this interim report to the President of the Arizona Senate, Karen Phan.
We're going to get into all of it.
Also about the invasion on the southern border with the Attorney General of Arizona next in the War Room.
unidentified
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, remember, the Senate switchboard number is 202-224-3121.
This historic event is going down right now.
Instead of 30 hours, it's going to be a couple.
Make sure that you call today.
Color inside the lines, but color boldly if you so desire, but let Mitch McConnell and leadership know what you think about cutting this debate down.
It's a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court, and Judge Jackson is highly qualified.
It's not about her qualifications.
She is highly qualified academically, what she's done on the federal bench.
And now she's at the lifetime appointment of the DC Appellate Court, which is the undercard for the Supreme Court.
It's not about that.
It's about her judgment, her judgment specifically about this issue of this.
And child pornography is too.
This is the rape and torture of infants and small children.
So make sure you're heard today.
It's a Mitch McConnell deal about cutting it from 30 hours, which it normally is, to two hours.
And we're going to see who the speakers are, if Josh Hawley, if Blackburn, if Cruz and Cotton get a chance to have their say.
Okay, let's pivot to Arizona.
Very big news out of there yesterday.
I understand Arizona's the railhead of the Trump movement.
I want to bring in Attorney General Mark Brnovich.
Attorney General Brnovich, you put this interim report out yesterday.
I think it's five pages long or something.
You delivered it over to the president, Karen Phan, who's been on the show numerous times.
Just walk the audience through it, because there's a lot of controversy about what you put forward.
It's an interim report, but can you walk us through the details of it and kind of the meaning of it, sir?
unidentified
Yeah, thank you for having me on, Steve.
It's an interim report, so this is an initial report.
It's about 12 pages.
You know, as a prosecutor, I'm legally and ethically limited what I can say, but I know there are so many folks that are so concerned and worried and frustrated about what happened with 2020.
And so we have literally spending thousands of hours going through various complaints from Democratic elected officials, Republican elected officials, but in a nutshell, in a nutshell, what we have seen and what this interim report demonstrates is there are serious concerns And there are reasons why people should be concerned about the way the 2020 election was handled.
Specifically, there's kind of four top level things that we should all worry about.
One is when it came to signature verification, you know, the county at times was taking less than five seconds to verify signatures.
And, you know, part of our difficulty, even in the delay in this report, is one of the things that we point out is that As the Attorney General, I don't have civil subpoena power, so I can't force the county to turn over documents, but they finally are.
In fact, it's funny because just this week, we got another letter from their lawyer for the first time, and this is not in the report, admitted that they're using AI to verify signatures.
The whole signature verification process is something that I think that, you know, regardless of someone, you know, where you fall in the spectrum, it should be troubling and concerning that they are trying to verify hundreds of thousands of signatures so quickly.
And, you know, of course, that raises the question of, you know, how is that even humanly possible?
Second thing, and I think for me is most troubling, is there was these drop boxes and there was ballots that were, you know, not returned by people who voted at the polling place.
In 20% of the instances we identified, those drop boxes, they did not have the proper chain of custody.
And that means everything from security to signatures.
So, possibly up to 200,000 ballots did not have the proper chain of custody and the proper procedures were not followed with those ballots.
And then one of the other things we identified in the report that we're still looking at, and your previous guest alluded to this, is that Mark Zuckerberg spent millions of dollars in Arizona.
At the time, it wasn't per se against the law, and the legislature has since tightened that up.
But we do know that he spent millions of dollars to the Democratic Secretary of State and to the Democratic election officials in the two largest counties in Arizona.
And so, you know, we're looking into that, whether any of that money may have been misspent in other ways inconsistent with the law.
So, I mean, in a nutshell, what you have is possibly up to 2,000 ballots that did not have the proper chain of custody.
What you have is a signature verification process that We are now finally being told may have been automated.
But regardless, those ballots are being checked with about approximately the biggest days, less than five seconds to verify those ballots.
And we have a county that continues to drag its feet and refuse us, you know, or slowly provide us information.
And so I'm hoping, and one of the things I ask President Fan is that will she give us additional statutory authority, including the ability to issue civil subpoenas related to the election?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, I want to go back through that.
And look, your reputation, particularly people that know you and I know, tell me, hey, this guy's a brawler, right?
And I understand how you have to be careful in this area, right?
Because you're being looked at and second-guessed with the Republicans out there and also the whole world media.
And so I got that.
But just to go back through this, I don't know, is it not... I mean, we have rules and we have statutes and we have regulations to be followed.
It's kind of a blockbuster because I saw the five second thing.
I said, well, that's not human.
Now to kind of cop to the fact that they had A.I.
do it.
And the rules are very specific.
You can't be automatic.
You've got to have it's got to be human.
This is a human process.
Right.
I mean, that is a big deal, correct?
That they now cop to the fact, after you're, you know, looking around, and what, over a year after this, a year and a half after this fiasco, they're now copping to it's artificial intelligence and not human.
Is that as big a deal as it seems, sir?
unidentified
I think it is, Steve.
I mean, I will let people draw their own conclusions, and I appreciate the compliment you said at the beginning.
Yeah, I am a fighter.
I think when you're a first-generation American whose parents lived through World War II and escaped communism, and you've got a funny last name, you have to grow up being a brawler.
I've argued cases at the Supreme Court.
I've obviously sued President Biden numerous times.
I was a gang prosecutor and I am all about making sure that we not only, it's not about just doing something, we have to do something that produces and accomplishes results.
And I think that there are a lot of people, including yourself, I know that we're maybe frustrated with my pace and how we were doing things, but very often as conservatives, we are fighting with one hand tied behind our back.
I appreciate that frustration more than anyone, but I literally don't have civil subpoena authority, and so we're having to go through the county's lawyers and their private lawyers, trying to pull teeth to get information.
And if you read our report, I mean, it took us months sometimes to get information.
And remember, I supported the Senate's right to do the audit.
We filed a brief, and it wasn't until our office threatened the county with losing funding that they finally started providing more information to the state Senate.
You know, it is frustrating.
It's frustrating for all of us, because I think we all know what happened in 2020.
But I think without a doubt, right now, not just Arizona, but other state legislators need to make sure they're doing everything they can.
We need to have voter verification.
We need to make sure that, you know, we have only citizens voting in our elections.
We need to make sure these drop boxes, remote ballot locations, don't have any security.
There's inadequate chain of custody.
So we need to make sure there's a proper chain of custody always, not just in 80% of the time, but 100% of the time.
And we need to make sure that we're doing everything we can to ensure that whoever's returning that ballot, that signature, is indeed that person.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And so, I mean, that is a grossly... Let me go back to the drop boxes for a second, because we're going to have gable men on tonight in Wisconsin.
People are just sitting there going, I can't believe this happened.
You've got the appellate court in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania saying the 2.6 million mail-in ballots were unconstitutional.
And now you've got, you know, and Bernovich comes out and says he thinks there's a chain of custody.
You can prove, I guess, up to 20%, 200,000 ballots have a chain of custody.
Just another technical aspect.
If there's a chain of custody issue and they didn't follow a proper chain of custody, Does that ballot count or does it not count?
I just want to get simple to see if we're chasing rabbits or if this is real.
In other words, when a guy like you comes out in a belt and suspenders thing on an interim report, not final, and says, hey, there's up to 20 percent, 200,000 ballots I don't think are legitimate because of chain of custody issues.
If you prove that, do those 200,000 ballots get tossed?
unidentified
Well, here's the great frustration, Steve, is that, you know, at this point, it's kind of like the chickens have already gone out of the coop.
And so, you know, there's really no remedy after the fact.
And one of the things I do want to say is that one of your earlier guests had mentioned, you know, what were the AGs doing before the election?
I mean, I would submit to you that before the election, our office did a lot.
I mean, we actually went to the state Supreme Court and stopped our Democratic Secretary of State when she tried to use COVID as an excuse to allow electronic signatures.
When our county recorder tried to mail out ballots to everyone, whether they requested or not, I went to federal, excuse me, state court, not the supervisors, to stop him from doing so.
And of course, I personally argued Brnovich v. DNC at the U.S.
Supreme Court, where I intervened, not our governor, not anyone in our state senate, I intervened to allow, to defend the state's ability to enact election integrity measures.
And so it is important.
It is important for us to do things on the front end, to be prophylactic in nature, so to speak, and to make sure that we're working on problems.
The left and the Democrats have been perfecting this for tons of elections for, you know, two decades.
And so, you know, our side, you know, Republicans were a little asleep at the switch.
And so, you know, we're trying to make up a lot of ground.
And that's why I think it's so important, incumbent, On the legislators to provide tools to prosecutors, but not only that, make sure that there are penalties.
And one of the things that we talk about is, you know, beefing up penalties and allowing for more whistleblower protections so election officials or people that work in those election offices do not feel intimidated and they feel that they can cooperate with our office.
Because like I said, one of my great frustrations is, look, if the county, you know, You know, what they're saying is obviously they did everything right, everything's perfect, and maybe they did, but, you know, I just wish then they would stop dragging their feet and provide us all the information we requested so it's not like pulling teeth in a slow drip getting this information.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Is it pulling teeth because you don't have the tools or is there, let me just get out there, people say, hey, that's the The Republican mafia runs Maricopa County, and the reason that Brnovich and these guys won't go after him is that that's the power base of the traditional establishment Republicans, and they're going to drag their feet because they know there's massive issues here that would reverse or at least decertify the Biden electors, and everybody's going to play
And you're not going to go after him because that's the power base of the Republican Party.
What's your response to that criticism?
unidentified
Or that observation?
I'm not a political guy.
I never ran for office before I was elected Attorney General.
I am married to my wife now of almost 25 years who's a federal judge, a Trump appointee.
She was a state judge before that.
I've got an amazing family.
I have an amazing life.
I've argued at the Supreme Court.
I don't give two craps about the so-called establishment or whatever you want to call it.
I mean, because I don't come from that.
I'm a public school kid, first-generation American.
I am all about the Constitution and the rule of law.
And I was brought up that we do things the right way.
I'm not like the clown prosecutors in New York that say crap or throw stuff against the wall and then try to make a case after they've reached a conclusion.
I do things methodically, sometimes not as fast as people like.
But we get results.
I get results.
I've prosecuted people, literally, county officials that are Republicans.
I have successfully prosecuted them on human trafficking related charges.
I have stood up to the governor when he tried to do the lockdowns and he shut down the bars and restaurants.
I filed a brief, no other elected official, state official did, opposing his lockdowns.
I was the first AG in the country that sued President Biden over the unconstitutional vaccine mandate.
So my record speaks for itself.
I am all about the rule of law and the Constitution.
You know, I don't belong to any country club.
I don't hang out with anyone in the Board of Supervisors.
And if you want to know why, what they're thinking, or why they may be dragging their feet, you should ask them.
But at the end of the day, as I said just a minute ago, I don't.
I do not have civil subpoena authority.
I cannot compel the county to turn over anything to me.
And, you know, part of what we were relying on is what the Senate was doing.
And that's one of the reasons why we supported the Senate's right to do the audit.
I believe in the separation of powers and, you know, and they've provided us some information.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Attorney General Berns, can we keep you for a few minutes on the other side of the break?
We just want to wrap this up.
Short commercial break.
Attorney General of the State of Arizona just put an interim report to the President of the Senate.
unidentified
We're going to get to all of it next in the and about the invasion of Arizona next in the world War room pandemic with Stephen K Bannon. The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
War room pandemic. Here's your host Stephen K Bannon the world.
Okay, tonight at 5 o'clock, Governor Sarah Palin, also Mike Cernovich.
We've got Judge Gabelman on the 6 o'clock show, so make sure you're back here at 5.
Ben Harnwell is going to be up at noon on his Getter feed to give you more about the Ukraine situation, what's happening in Europe.
I want to go back to Arizona and Attorney General Brnovich.
Attorney General, is there enough here, do you think, to impanel a grand jury?
Do you think there's any criminal Activity here that that you could get wrong.
I understand you just said hey You're not a guy that wants to throw stuff up and then prove a case later You feel you have to have the evidence.
Is there any besides what you're doing with the state?
With the State Senate, is there any activity on a grand jury level?
unidentified
Well, just so you know, Steve, literally, we announced an indictment yesterday for someone that voted for a dead person.
We have ongoing, we even have criminal cases involving ballot harvesting in Southern Arizona.
So, there are criminal cases that we are doing.
Sometimes maybe they get lost in the shuffle.
There's maybe not as much press on those as some people do.
Once again, as a prosecutor, you are always limited, ethically and legally, what you can say.
Just as a quick aside, I'm living this.
Katie Hobbs, the Democratic Secretary of State, when we opposed her, she filed a bar complaint against me and lawyers in our office.
You know, based on spurious obligations that have been dismissed.
I sued the universities.
I literally won a case this week against the higher education establishment at the State Supreme Court.
And I was told, because they filed a 200-page bar complaint against me and lawyers in our office, I couldn't say anything even after we won that case at the State Supreme Court.
So this is what the left does, is they demonize and destroy anyone they disagree with, and me as a prosecutor, because we have all these legal and ethical standards as an elected Republican prosecutor, We have to do everything right.
We have to be like Caesar's wife.
So I am always limited what I can say, even on cases we've already indicted, until they actually run all the way through conviction.
And we're obviously limited what I can say as far as, you know, ongoing possible criminal investigations.
But I assure you, Steve, and I think hopefully this interim report shows people that I understand how serious this is.
I understand Why people are frustrated.
And, you know, one of the mistakes, you know, there's a cliche about, you know, generals are always fighting the last war.
But we need to recognize that we have to learn what happened or what the failures were in the last so-called war and understand how we can better prepare for those future battles.
And make no mistake about it.
The left, the far left, the progressive left, the Democratic Party, they look at this as war because they have this neo-Marxist vision for this country.
They want to socialize our economy, nationalize our elections, and they're doing everything they can to concentrate that power in Washington, D.C.
And so I get that, and I hope that people reading that report, as you said, it's 12 pages, it's an interim report, but it's kind of the first marker.
This is the proverbial kind of shot across the bow, and I hope people understand that I know how important this is, and maybe it's not as fast sometimes as people like, but it's more important to get it right than fast.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Do you have any idea or can you give us any guidance about the final report?
The timing?
unidentified
We'll have to break that exclusively on your show next time I'm on if you invite me back.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, perfect.
unidentified
But I know how important it is and we are working vigorously and, you know, we're talking, you know, look, one last quick analogy.
I was a gang prosecutor and, you know, we had to file our own cases when we worked with You know, law enforcement officials, and there was an old saying we had, is that everyone has to pick up their own dog crap.
And I have always been the kind of person that leaves a place better than I find it.
And I assure you, all the listeners, I am not going to leave a big pile of dog crap for the next AG.
I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that we have some finality, or at least we are down the right road, that no matter who the next AG is, I'll make sure they do the right thing as well.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Real quickly, because I know you've got to bounce.
The state of Arizona is also under this massive invasion already.
More people hit the southern border across than landed on D-Day, right?
Over 156,000.
Now with Title 42 coming off, it could be a massive invasion.
I understand you've been working this non-stop.
You had an opinion out last week.
What can the AG do, and what can you do specifically, to stop the invasion of Arizona?
unidentified
Well, Steve, I'm doing everything I can.
We literally, right as we're on this show, we are at the, you know, in the Sixth Circuit arguing a case where we sued the Biden administration over their permanent guidance, where they are literally releasing people with deportation orders that, you know, have either committed or charged with serious crimes.
And so we're trying to stop that.
I filed a lawsuit on Title 42 and you know literally what you just alluded to that it's expected that more than 500,000 people will come over in just the first month once these restrictions are lifted with Title 42.
You know, essentially the entire population of a city like Atlanta, Georgia.
And so this is overwhelming the system.
I'm doing everything I can with the tools in my toolbox, which means going into court and suing the Biden administration and trying to get them to do their job.
I mean, it shouldn't be up to the states to do this.
It is literally the responsibility of the federal government.
Whether it was suing President Biden, as I did, over his failure to stop the border wall, whether it was the Remain in Mexico policy, we are doing everything we can to hold the Biden administration accountable.
Frankly, people like Mayorkas need to be replaced.
If not, where the hell are the Republicans in the U.S.
Senate or in Congress trying to impeach him?
He should be impeached.
Literally, Americans are dying, dying.
I know this as a prosecutor.
The price of a fentanyl pill has fallen from about $20 in the past year to $5.
We in Arizona, just in Arizona, 9 million illegal fentanyl pills.
Two milligrams of fentanyl can be fatal.
That literally is enough fentanyl to kill the entire population of this state.
So this is Arizona's problem, maybe some people think, but this is coming to you very, very quickly.
It's in our front yard, or it's our backyard, your front yard very soon, and people are dying.
More people are dying as a result of Biden's failed border policies in America than they are that are dying in Ukraine now as a result of what's going on with Russia.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Attorney General Brnovich, how do people find out more about you, your social media, how they find out about your campaign to win the nomination for the Senate?
unidentified
BrnoforAZ.com, B-R-N-O-F-O-R-A-Z.com.
Thank you very much for having me on, Steve, and hopefully people can find out the truth about me because some people talk, I do, and I do it the right way.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Attorney General Brnovich, thank you very much.
We'll make sure all this information gets out there.
Obviously we have a big Arizona posse that follows this, so thank you for coming on.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, we couldn't get Naomi back up because the Pfizer investigation is so incredibly important.
We're going to figure out how to get it up on getter.
We're going to have her back here at 5 o'clock.
We've got Governor Palin, we've got Cernovich, we've got to get Naomi Wolf.
This Pfizer investigation is absolutely huge.
Also, the interim report from Attorney General Brnovich, I want everybody to get it out.
I want to hear your comments, your observations, your opinions.
Because 3 November still is of massive importance.
It's the underpinnings of replacing this illegitimate regime.
Okay, back here at 5 o'clock today.
Don't miss it.
Strap in.
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