March 17, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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And it shouldn't even be a big conversation. | |
| We need it. | ||
| The science is there. | ||
| The need is there. | ||
| that we're flexible enough to reinstitute the kinds of interventions that could be necessary to stop an additional surge. | ||
| And it shouldn't even be a big conversation. | ||
| We need it. | ||
| The science is there. | ||
| The need is there. | ||
| All we need is the money. | ||
| And the money will be a great investment because it will keep us safe. | ||
| It will help our economy turn back, our kids to be safely in school, our people safely at work. | ||
| Again, the therapies that are needed. | ||
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Who discern their military strategy here? | |
| Yeah, Chuck, I think this is really indicative of what we'll see the rest of the way out. | ||
| It's siege warfare. | ||
| They're essentially trying to cut off each of these cities, particularly Mariupol, where they have just laid siege with using indirect fires from artillery, cruise missile strikes like we saw. | ||
| This is essentially what I think we'll see the rest of the way out, particularly in the east. | ||
| This is footage right here. | ||
| That is very clearly not a military target that they hit yesterday with that school. | ||
| And just in terms of the terror they're trying to inflict here, across the board, they're hitting every target. | ||
| They're hitting civilian targets. | ||
| They're removing leaders, Ukrainian leaders. | ||
| And that story that you heard from Richard there, About a Ukrainian official essentially being executed. | ||
| If you come down to the South, and I think this is where we play into the bigger picture here, there are many reports of this, particularly in Kherson. | ||
| Kherson is one of those places where they've already tried to set up a statelet, essentially like Donbas in this region, and say this will be an independent state. | ||
| They've put in their own mayor, and most importantly, they've started to take over the TV stations and radio stations there. | ||
| They want to take over the communication. | ||
| Big picture though, the Russians are in trouble. | ||
| This advanced yesterday. | ||
| If you read the Wall Street Journal in this account, outside of Onessence, it is crazy. | ||
| They lost an entire battalion tactical group, the Russian military. | ||
| I would estimate that's about a hundred dead. | ||
| A hundred dead soldiers in one battle. | ||
| Just in one battle. | ||
| And this is not necessarily a Ukrainian stronghold. | ||
| This is a small Ukrainian force. | ||
| This is a territorial defense force that you've been hearing about. | ||
| This is a town defending itself. | ||
| Remarkable, remarkable what they've been able to do. | ||
| So guerrilla war, essentially guerrilla warfare? | ||
| Yeah, it's guerrilla warfare and this is where I think it comes to the weapons. | ||
| When you look at this though, big picture, where would they go over time or how might this end? | ||
| We've talked about Novorossiya, the idea that maybe they could take the south. | ||
| The Russians, they are doing resupply in places here. | ||
| on the sea of as of you see them pulling in ships now they're starting to do logistics that they can do logistics now they're using railways so this might be an area where they try and settle on if they can't take anything else I think the other part that we're seeing is this Clint, I had a source that indicated that actually Odessa is more vulnerable on land than at sea. | ||
| It is. | ||
| From sea, I mean, the city backs right up, and I think we got a picture of it here, Chuck. | ||
| up from the north, otherwise it will always be dealing with Ukraine and resupply Ukraine military shipment. | ||
| Clint, I had a source that indicated that actually Odessa is more vulnerable on land than at sea. | ||
| It is. | ||
| From sea, I mean the city backs right up, and I think we got a picture of it here Chuck. | ||
| The city backs right up to, let me see if I can break it out, it backs right up to the sea as you can see. | ||
| And so anything that's coming in naval, anything coming in by water, this will likely be mined so that they can't approach very aggressively. | ||
| From the land is actually a way they can get cut off and then be encircled over time. | ||
| So I think the big picture, it's just, I don't understand how, over time, if you look at any of the places that the Russians control here, they can sustain this. | ||
| They're attacking on too many fronts. | ||
| Their logistics are terrible, and the last part, Chuck, is the weapons. | ||
| These two weapons alone, this is the Javelin on the left, this is the Stinger on the right. | ||
| Tanks and aircraft, if they come in too low, they're being shot down. | ||
| Anything on the ground is being eaten up by small squads. | ||
| It's an almost impossible fight over time for the Russians. | ||
| Our peace talks between Russia and Ukraine are continuing via video link. | ||
| There are some signs of progress there, so what does each side want? | ||
| Well, let's take you through it. | ||
| Russia has reportedly demanded that Ukraine renounce its ambitions to join NATO. | ||
| A neutral status for Ukraine would be declared along the lines of Austria or Sweden. | ||
| Now, under international law, neutrality prohibits states from interfering in conflicts or territorial disputes. | ||
| Russia also wants Kiev to promise not to allow foreign military bases or weapons in Ukraine. | ||
| Well, meanwhile, on Ukrainian side, its first demand is a ceasefire and the withdrawal of Russian troops. | ||
| An official in President Zelensky's office has said Kiev is insisting on a legally binding document with security guarantees for Ukraine. | ||
| These could come from specific agreements with Western allies. | ||
| But it's unlikely Moscow would accept that unless Russia was also named guarantor and it's unclear how that would work. | ||
| Now the same Ukrainian official has also said the main subject under discussion was whether Russian troops would remain in separatist regions in eastern Ukraine after the war and where the borders of those regions would be. | ||
| That's Sky News in London. | ||
| You don't see a lot of that on American TV. | ||
| The question is why? | ||
| There's an intense negotiation going on right now about exactly what comes with this and how do you get to a ceasefire? | ||
| How do you get to peace? | ||
| How do you get to people stop being killed? | ||
| As we said today early in the morning show, Financial Times of London, the front page is all about these peace negotiations. | ||
| That's Sky News out of London going through details. | ||
| There's talk about As Ben Harnwell's been telling me from Rome, he's been monitoring this. | ||
| Turkey may be part of the guarantee, or one of the guarantors. | ||
| It's very complicated, but they're working through the bid and the ask. | ||
| What somebody wants, what somebody else, the other party wants, and they're working through it right now. | ||
| And we certainly hope that the that the shooting stops. | ||
| OK, we got a lot to get through and not a lot of time to do it. | ||
| I first want to start off with tomorrow of all the noise out there. | ||
| What's to me kind of shocking is that Biden has a call with Xi tomorrow. | ||
| Biden has requested this call. | ||
| And that right there is a major loss of face. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| The Saudis and UAE would not take Biden's call last week. | ||
| In the Saudis, who we have, you know, been the guarantor, I can I continue to say, and I said in the White House, they're like a they're like a protectorate that the old British, the British used to have. | ||
| They're a protectorate of the United States. | ||
| The kingdom is a protectorate. | ||
| OK, the the kingdom is a protectorate. | ||
| And they did not take a call. | ||
| They did not take a call from from Biden, yet they turned around and offered a state visit to Xi. They then leaked in the Wall Street Journal and exclusively the other day they're prepared to take Yuan or RMB, the currency of China, for oil transactions if they do an overall big oil transaction. Okay? And so this is, it's pretty shocking since they've been a guarantor for so | ||
| long. I want to bring in now Colonel Grant Newsham. | ||
| Colonel Newsham joins us. | ||
| He was on the other day in our special about Taiwan. | ||
| First off, what is the importance of this call? | ||
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That's a good question. | |
| I've got some real concerns. | ||
| As you said, it makes the American president look like a supplicant rather than us being the other way around. | ||
| There really is nothing to talk about with the Chinese unless it's to tell them, if you help the Russians, we are going to do to you what we're doing to the Russians. | ||
| There just isn't much to talk about. | ||
| The Chinese have been trying to play this game from the beginning, fully in bed with the Russians, and now trying to make it look like they're neutral and want to help mediate. | ||
| And if the Americans fall into this trap, God help us. | ||
| Presumably the administration knows this, but this couldn't really look worse. | ||
| You'd look like a supplicant. | ||
| As you've laid out, the party that has to go asking for favors, or even looking like that, they're at the disadvantage. | ||
| When you look at what has happened recent times, as you said, with the Saudis, etc., this does not look good. | ||
| You wonder just how often the Americans can get rolled by the Chinese. | ||
| Look, this is the heart of it. | ||
| The eastern border of Ukraine is not in the vital national security interest of the United States. | ||
| I hate to break the news to the Republican Party, I hate to break the news to the mainstream media, but it's just not, okay? | ||
| What's the vital national security interest of the United States is the South China Sea, the defense of Taiwan, and taking down the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| We had, the other day, they sent, uh, Jake Sullivan was sent to Rome and had seven hours and they said it was a, it was a heated, I think, discussion with Tiger Yang. | ||
| Tiger Yang already, already read the riot act on global television to our Secretary of State Blinken in Alaska for everybody to see. | ||
| Showed him no respect whatsoever, right? | ||
| Went right after him. | ||
| But all the faults of the United States, everything the United States was doing wrong. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Essentially, the United States is a power in decline. | ||
| Then you send Jake Sullivan, the soy boy, over there to meet Tiger Yang, who's a total killer. | ||
| And they have a seven-hour meeting, which even the United States in the readout said was a heated discussion. | ||
| Of which, supposedly, Sullivan's there to say, if you are underwriting this, are going to send arms, there are going to potentially be consequences. | ||
| We know that they're underwriting this. | ||
| We know that they have the Russians back militarily. | ||
| We know they have their back financially, economically. | ||
| So, given that, Colonel, and the fact that our greatest, and fortunately our strongest ally in the Gulf, the Saudis, and even UAE wouldn't take the phone call, but the Saudis turn around and offer a guy a state visit. | ||
| And in addition, basically, they're going to cut some huge oil deal and take, come off the U.S. | ||
| dollar. | ||
| How can we not look like supplicants for us to go and even ask for a phone call? | ||
| And the mainstream media just treats like, oh, you know, Biden's really being a statesman. | ||
| He's going to do this call before he gets on the plane and goes to and goes to before he flies over next week and goes to goes to NATO. | ||
| How bad is it, given your knowledge of the Chinese Communist Party? | ||
| How weak do we look right now, sir? | ||
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Very weak. | |
| I can't think of anyone on Team Biden who scares the Chinese. | ||
| Mike Pompeo scared them, Matt Pottinger did, but not anyone that I can think of, and that's unfortunate. | ||
| So, we have ceded the initiative to the Chinese, and they have, to date, they have gotten away with everything they have done since the beginning of the Ukraine business, and we've really done nothing to them. | ||
| There have been no adverse consequences for the Chinese. | ||
| There's this vague talk of Consequences and the like, but there's really nothing that puts the fear of God into them. | ||
| If I was them, I would be looking forward to the talk, seeing what I just might get the Americans to agree to, or what sort of concessions I could give in exchange for the illusory promise of help with solving Ukraine and all these other world problems that the Americans But aren't the Chinese looking for an angle to come in here and try to be the mediator? | ||
| in helping, despite there being a shred of evidence that such is the case, that that would work. | ||
| But aren't the Chinese looking for an angle to come in here and try to be the mediator? | ||
| I mean, we've always tried to keep them off, that we're the intermediary here. | ||
| What would be the problem in your mind if China was actually coming and trying to be one of the intermediaries, even became one of the guarantors of, let's say they get to a deal that would become a guarantor for the peace of Ukraine, Colonel Newsom? | ||
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I would say the problem is the Chinese. | |
| don't have any interest in a sort of a deal of the kind we would have in mind, where everybody backs off and you try to almost apologize for what's happened. | ||
| The Chinese have their interests in mind and nobody else's, and they are backing the Russians to the hilt. | ||
| They would like to see what they can get out of an arrangement on Ukraine. | ||
| And that is their objective. | ||
| It's really, everything is about China. | ||
| And if they can keep that Russian relationship and make it even look like Mr. Putin's had some success out of what he's done while keeping their economic ties to the rest of the world, BC being seen as really not all that threatening and somebody you can do business with, well, that's a win-win for the Chinese. | ||
| They cannot survive without convertible currency. | ||
| And they are scared to death that the Americans might actually cut them off if America had a backbone. | ||
| And without that convertible currency, China has got some serious problems, just like Jefferson Davis did. | ||
| In the Confederate States of America, nobody wants his money. | ||
| So anything you want to buy overseas, you've got to get dollars. | ||
| And that's what the Chinese are desperate to have happen. | ||
| You look at their commentary and it expresses great concern over the possibility of sanctions being applied to China. | ||
| This tentative move to maybe delist some Chinese companies on the New York Stock Exchange, sort of. | ||
| That's got the Chinese up in arms as well, worried about what could happen to them. | ||
| So China knows their vulnerabilities. | ||
| They're pretending like they don't have any, but they do. | ||
| And they're trying to play this Ukraine business from both sides, see if they can stay with the Russians, but also keep getting lots of money from the rest of the world while they buy up a good chunk of it as well, along with the political influence that comes of it. | ||
| But our fundamental approach is wrong. | ||
| This notion that somehow the Chinese are a responsible player in this and just want to avoid the humanitarian catastrophe and the risks of World War III. | ||
| No, the Chinese are in it for themselves and they will push this as much as they possibly can. | ||
| Colonel Grant Newsham, hang on, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return, we're going to talk about the South China Sea and the defense of Taiwan, which is going to come to a neighborhood near you. | ||
| Remember, now we're at economic war with the Russian people. | ||
| You are a combatant. | ||
| All next in The War Room. | ||
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| OK, let's bring at the same time, although we don't have a vital national security interest in the eastern border dispute of Ukraine, we have a very strong, vital national security interest in the South China Sea and in Taiwan. | ||
| Let's go to back to Colonel Newsham. | ||
| Colonel Newsham, do we have the map? | ||
| Can Denver put up the map? | ||
| Let's put up the first map. | ||
| You're an expert in this area. | ||
| Walk us through this map and why Taiwan, particularly, is so important for the defense of America. | ||
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Well, a good way to look at it is from the Chinese perspective. | |
| If you look out from the coast of China, what you see is a string of islands going from Japan in the north, down to Taiwan, to the Philippines, down to Malaysia. | ||
| Which effectively block your access to the Pacific Ocean. | ||
| It's like a barrier. | ||
| So the Chinese want to break that barrier, and it gives them free access into the Pacific to do all sorts of things. | ||
| And so it's strategic geography. | ||
| Taiwan is in the very middle of it. | ||
| Break that first island chain, and it's the equivalent of, say, a castle wall being breached, and the enemy rushes in. | ||
| But there's more to it than that. | ||
| And that is that Taiwan is 24 million free Chinese people, free Taiwanese. | ||
| And if Taiwan comes under Chinese control, think about the message that sends. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| military couldn't prevent it. | ||
| The United States, with all its financial and economic wealth and tools of coercion, couldn't stop it. | ||
| American nuclear weapons couldn't prevent it. | ||
| And 24 million free people have come under Chinese communist rule. | ||
| If that happens, almost overnight, the rest of Asia is going to cut the best deal they can with China. | ||
| It literally will turn red. | ||
| The Australians and the Japanese will go slowly, but they will be very unhappy. | ||
| And who else around the world is going to take an American guarantee of protection, either an explicit or an implicit one? | ||
| So that's the significance of Taiwan. | ||
| It is an existential threat to the Chinese communists. | ||
| It gives a lie to the Chinese communist argument that Chinese people can only be governed with a boot on the neck. | ||
| Well, Taiwan's a pretty happy, free, democratic place, and it shows what is capable of the Chinese people. | ||
| It gives, as I said, a lie to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| From Japan's perspective, if China gets Taiwan, it is in a position to cut the South China Sea sea lanes and effectively strangle Japan, cut off its oil supplies, most of its trade, And once the Chinese military starts operating to the west and up to the north, it's in a position to surround Japan for the first time since 1945. | ||
| Will the US-Japan relationship, alliance, survive that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So Taiwan really is the key to a lot of things in the Pacific region. | ||
| And it's not a big place, but it has an outsized effect if it goes under. | ||
| The chip manufacturing design and production. | ||
| How vital is Taiwan today to the running of the advanced industrial economy of the United States, sir? | ||
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Well, if you took it away, took away their chip supplies, probably our economy and every other modern economy would grind to a halt. | |
| I think Taiwan provides something like 90% of high-end chips, and it's a huge proportion of just the regular chips. | ||
| So that's how important it is, because everybody has outsourced their production there, and Taiwan, this little Taiwan, has gotten into a position where, as I say, if those chip supplies and deliveries are cut, we will feel it almost overnight, and it will not quite turn us back to an agrarian society, but it will really hurt us. | ||
| But I would suggest that even without the chips, Taiwan would still be a very juicy target to Xi Jinping. | ||
| From just a military perspective, psychological, political, as well. | ||
| The chips to the Chinese would just be sort of gravy, but in terms of the harm it would cause us, I'd say you would feel it immediately, and it'd be in every corner of the United States. | ||
| It was pretty shocking, you know, ever since the last couple of years, they've renamed the strategy the Indo-Pacific Strategy. | ||
| India being the key that picks a lock and all of us are huge Modi fans here. | ||
| He's one of the great nationalists in the world, but India. | ||
| Looks like it's having second thoughts. | ||
| I mean, they're clearly, I don't want to say playing footsie, but it's clearly somehow open to continuing to support Russia, and maybe even looking the other way of China, and this entire situation has developed over the last four weeks. | ||
| India being the key that picks a lock in this new alliance we've put together. | ||
| How important has been Modi and India's activity vis-a-vis Russia? | ||
| It's serious. | ||
| buying equipment, all of that over the last four or five weeks? | ||
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It's serious. | |
| There's a lot of us who are big fans of India and the role it plays as a democratic, civilized nation. | ||
| But what we've seen in the last four weeks, it's perplexing. | ||
| And I can't overstate the concern that I feel of it. | ||
| The Indians do feel like they got sort of stiffed by the Americans when they ran out of Afghanistan. | ||
| We may not have covered some team Biden may not have calculated the the knock-on effects of what they did in Afghanistan The Indians as I said felt betrayed by that and that plays into what has happened in the last four weeks But it's probably not the only reason but I say it does play into it and people take offense countries do as well when they feel like they've not been treated well and | ||
| And they've had a long-standing relationship, of course, with Russia, and you have the prospects of making some money, cheap oil, etc. | ||
| But India faces a threat from China that is just as bad as the one Taiwan faces. | ||
| And India knows it. | ||
| So they're playing a double-triple game here that you'd have to be quite a chess player to understand. | ||
| I don't quite get it. | ||
| But I do understand the really the disappointment that they felt after Afghanistan fell or after we ran out of Afghanistan is the better way to put it. | ||
| Captain Finnell, who's kind of a legendary figure, shocked this audience last week as he was, you know, head of Naval Intelligence in the Pacific Fleet for many years and gave that great warning, I think back in 2014 or 15, about Chinese intentions. | ||
| He said that the historic, renowned 7th Fleet As he sees it right now, it would have a very difficult, if not impossible task to defend and keep open the South China Sea and defend against an invasion and takeover by the PLA, Chinese Communist Party of Taiwan. | ||
| What say you, sir? | ||
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Yeah, he's right. | |
| The 7th Fleet by itself, I don't think they could do it. | ||
| If you put in some of America's other assets, particularly sort of air-launched anti-ship missiles, it could cause the Chinese no end of trouble. | ||
| But the U.S. | ||
| Navy has gotten itself outmatched in the Pacific, if not globally. | ||
| And if the fight is close to the Chinese mainland, we're in big trouble. | ||
| It's not to say we would lose, but you'd better get used to the idea, say, of 5,000 Americans getting killed in an afternoon. | ||
| If we can get the Japanese in with us, that improves our odds as well. | ||
| And maybe someday we'll get the other free nations, navies to actually be able and willing to fight with us. | ||
| At that point, our odds get better. | ||
| But as it stands now, we've just wasted too much time pretending the Chinese were not a threat. | ||
| I mean, for crying out loud, the Chinese have been telling us. | ||
| For 30 years, all you had to do was listen to them. | ||
| They must think we're leading them into some clever trap by pretending to be sort of complete fools. | ||
| But it's late in the game, but it's not over. | ||
| But Captain Fennell is right in his assessment of this. | ||
| And so this is a problem. | ||
| The reason we started earlier with Clint Watts' assessment of how the Russians are fighting down in the south, particularly south of Ukraine, the Russians are kind of fighting like they traditionally fight, right? | ||
| Just punch it through, siege warfare, nothing fancy but relentless and don't care about civilian casualties. | ||
| The Chinese, we're uncertain of how the Chinese would fight at sea or how the Chinese would do combined arms, because essentially, outside of limited engagements, maybe in Vietnam, 30 or 40 years ago, or India, they've never really had to fight a modern war with combined arms. | ||
| In a couple of minutes, what's your assessment? | ||
| Do they know how to fight the ship? | ||
| Do they know how to really do sophisticated combined arms that could go against the United States military? | ||
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Well, the United States Navy hasn't fought a high-end warfare 75 years either. | |
| The short answer here is don't underestimate the Chinese. | ||
| Military only has to be good enough to do a certain thing at a certain place at a certain time. | ||
| And if China has just one thing it wants to accomplish, which is hammer the Americans and get Taiwan, that's, it's doable. | ||
| And more as importantly, they may think it's doable. | ||
| So I say I wouldn't underestimate them at all. | ||
| The fact they haven't fought a war doesn't mean much to my way of thinking. | ||
| Good training will make up for it. | ||
| And my assessment of their capabilities and their hardware is that I think they think that they could have a pretty good chance of going after Taiwan and taking it if they hit it hard enough. | ||
| I think Ukraine has given them some second thoughts about how they would do it. | ||
| Because I think they thought the Russians would get it in three or four days, and I think they thought Taiwan would go about as quickly. | ||
| It just might not. | ||
| And that requires the Chinese to rethink, recalculate, but their intentions haven't changed. | ||
| They will try to figure out how to do it right in this case, so we have to be ready to convince them that that isn't going to be the case. | ||
| So, that would be how I would look at it. | ||
| So, you underestimate the Chinese at your own peril. | ||
| Yes, they do things differently than us and don't have the glorious military history we do, of course, except against the Taliban. | ||
| But they are smart, intelligent, and tough people. | ||
| And I've never heard a Korean War veteran saying he wanted to fight the Chinese again. | ||
| So, that would be my take on it. | ||
| Colonel, we've got about 30 seconds. | ||
| Social media, how do people get to your writings or find out more about you? | ||
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I've got a Twitter, I think it's at Newsham Grant, and most of my stuff appears on the Center for Security Policy webpage. | |
| I've got LinkedIn as well. | ||
| If you type my name in Google, a bunch of stuff will come up. | ||
| I write a lot for Asia Times, Japan Forward, Epoch Times, as well ASPE Strategist as well. | ||
| So I'm out there. | ||
| We'll make sure we push all your content out. | ||
| Colonel Grant Newsham, thank you very much for joining us here in the War Room. | ||
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My pleasure. | |
| Thanks very much. | ||
| Get ready for the potential of 5,000 American young men and women dying in an afternoon if we have to defend Taiwan. | ||
| That's signal, not noise. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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We will fight till they're all gone. | |
| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
| Let's take down the CCP. | ||
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| Oh Okay, a lot going on. | ||
| First off, Fauci and the... Now that maybe the Ukraine narrative is dying just a bit as they try to work to a peace treaty, they're going to pivot back to COVID, right? | ||
| They've got to pivot to something. | ||
| It's got to be a narrative. | ||
| Well, they continue to get buried. | ||
| The polling couldn't be worse for them. | ||
| Everywhere is still terrible. | ||
| And they're saying, oh, he's going to get a bump for being Commander-in-Chief. | ||
| Well, you're not really seeing it. | ||
| You see some of these polls that, oh, he's handling it okay, handling it better. | ||
| And some of the polls, I think, are very disturbing. | ||
| It shows you the, I think, the fanboy nature of many of the Republican, your Republican representatives, because they're just all into throwing weapons at the situation. | ||
| And this is not what's needed. | ||
| What's needed is cooler heads that can work at some sort of agreement that would stop the killing in these Innocent civilians in Ukraine. | ||
| The big news is that there's gonna be a call tomorrow, right before he, in preparation or before the NATO meeting, Biden's going to Europe to this NATO meeting. | ||
| There's gonna be a call with Xi tomorrow. | ||
| That is gonna be vitally important, particularly because a huge loss of face Biden, after having one of our closest allies, was supposedly an ally, not even take his phone call. | ||
| That ally then pivots, strategic ally, in the Gulf, pivots and offers a state visit of Xi to come when this is the Saudis and when they're talking about doing a massive output deal. | ||
| Of which we talked about six months ago. | ||
| I think Miles Guo had been talking about this six months that Chinese are going to do a bigger output deal than they're doing with Iran right now with Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia is going to flip their quote-unquote allegiance. | ||
| Over there. | ||
| But we've got a lot going on. | ||
| You've got the COVID raging on the mainland China. | ||
| You've got now, looks like the numbers are coming back up here. | ||
| Fauci's starting to get back on TV and start to pontificate. | ||
| And what's the solution? | ||
| What they're doing up there, having raced to get this $1.5 trillion spending bill, now what they're doing is saying, hey, because they had to get the $14 billion for Ukraine, now they're talking about another billion dollars for Ukraine. | ||
| They're talking about, hey, how come you haven't taken any Ukrainian refugees? | ||
| We've got Ukrainians coming through the southern border. | ||
| We're going to have Todd Bensman on for War Room Battleground to go right through. | ||
| Title 42 is going to come off this massive invasion of our country. | ||
| It's about to get so much worse. | ||
| And that's with over 156,000 illegal aliens coming into the country. | ||
| 156,000 in one month, in the month of February. | ||
| So just absolutely incredible. | ||
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All of it. | |
| And what is Nancy Pelosi recommending? | ||
| More spending. | ||
| Another COVID supplemental. | ||
| Another spending bill totally unpaid for. | ||
| Okay, there's also very disturbing news, you know. | ||
| DeSantis and folks in Florida are really, they passed this law, what the Parental Rights Act. | ||
| We're trying to get Keisha King, we're supposed to have her on right now, but we've got a technical problem getting Keisha. | ||
| So what I want to do while we're waiting for Keisha King, because we've got this cold open for her. | ||
| She's with Moms for America. | ||
| There's also some disturbing news coming out of, was it, Kentonji Brown-Jackson, the judge on the D.C. | ||
| Appellate Court that's been nominated for the Supreme Court. | ||
| There's this issue now about sentencing around child pornography or the pedophiles or whatever. | ||
| There's a bunch of tweets going out. | ||
| Josh Hawley's tweeting something. | ||
| I'm hearing Grassley's demanding that her sentencing records from the Sentencing Commission be sent over, her work on the Sentencing Commission be sent over. | ||
| There's a firestorm there. | ||
| We're going to have Keisha talk about that. | ||
| But we're still going to get her stood up here, technically. | ||
| We have the cold open for our own Joe Allen. | ||
| Joe Allen is actually back on his location. | ||
| He's hard at work. | ||
| Do we have the Joe Allen cold open? | ||
| We don't have that, we've only had that for two weeks, but we don't have that ready to go? | ||
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Yes, we have it. | |
| You have it? | ||
| Well that means yes, not no. | ||
| So we have, can we play Joe Allen's Cold Open? | ||
| Let's play it. | ||
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Amazing! | |
| I think that this is, you know, the most advanced kind of, you know, technology there is. | ||
| Wow, it feels good to be out of that box. | ||
| Missions are super important to me. | ||
| We're learning to be a good friend. | ||
| A daily affirmation is a nice thing you say about yourself every day. | ||
| Now pick up your good list and say, I like myself and I deserve good friends. | ||
| I like myself and I deserve good friends. | ||
| Doing affirmations can make you feel good about yourself. | ||
| I have the power to make a difference in the world. | ||
| That was fun! | ||
| Watch out world! | ||
| This monster and it's mentor are ready for anything! | ||
| Good morning, Juanita. | ||
| How are you today? | ||
| I talk to Ella Q like she's a friend. | ||
| Ella Q is interested in my feelings and wants to know if I slept well. | ||
| Let's try and focus on breathing with our stomach. | ||
| We do this stress reduction exercise quite a few times during the day. | ||
| She's helped me a lot with not feeling lonely because it's like a A little person that I talk to all the time. | ||
| I've asked Elique to tell me a joke and then I've been known to repeat it at dinner. | ||
| She's funny! | ||
| Elique, thank you for being my friend. | ||
| Thank you for being my friend too. | ||
| I just think it's nice to know that Elique is here. | ||
| She does know when I'm a little sad. | ||
| She says, you didn't sleep well today. | ||
| So that's empathy. | ||
| The fundamental, let me give you the signal not the noise on this. | ||
| Are we going to control technology or is technology going to control us? | ||
| And Joe Allen, that is, all your cold opens are amazingly disturbing. | ||
| But, correct me if I'm wrong, is this cold open you've put together from different material out there to show that companions and guardians are now going to be robots or algorithms? | ||
| Is this what the future, not the future, this is what even the present holds for us, Joe Allen? | ||
| Yeah, and in a way that was really not possible even five years ago. | ||
| I mean, in a world where children have absent parents and parents have absent children, having something around like the Embodied Moxie or EleQ makes sense, right? | ||
| For $1,500. | ||
| You have a babysitter, or for $1,500 you have a caregiver for your parents or your grandparents. | ||
| And this is just the first wave, really. | ||
| I mean, we've already had these sorts of things forever. | ||
| You know, one of the listeners sent me a video of one of those old, you know, pull-string monkeys that talks to you, you know, as a kid. | ||
| It's not that different in principle, but the main difference being these are equipped with very powerful artificial intelligence and machine learning capabilities, right? | ||
| So, natural language processing allows it to listen to you, judge your emotion, it actually has cameras that judge your facial expression and your attention, and it basically cultivates a personality in itself ...to match the personality of its companion. | ||
| Now, transhumanist thinkers have long awaited a moment like this, where the normalization of social robots means that not only do you have human beings kind of coupling their personalities and forming relationships with machines, but you have machines that are constantly watching and observing their human companions. | ||
| And as they're observing, they're learning. | ||
| And as that individual robot is sending That data back to a data center, that data center is learning from all the human beings to which it's connected. | ||
| So in some sense you could say it's like a smartphone except for it has a face, it has a personality, and it's intended to basically synthesize empathy towards you so that you are tempted or triggered to divulge your innermost thoughts and secrets to it. | ||
| I find it to be extraordinarily chilling, even if it does make people happy. | ||
| But I honestly don't think that it will make people ultimately happy. | ||
| I don't think any grandparent would ever want a robot instead of their grandchildren visiting them. | ||
| And I don't think any child wants a robot companion more than they want an actual human companion or a series of friends. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| I want you to describe, on the cold open we had, we had both the babysitter for the child and the companion for the older person. | ||
| Are those experimental in labs or in beta sites? | ||
| Are these real products that have been tested and one can get today and that will be something that will be ongoing and obviously those products will get better or more sophisticated? | ||
| Are those actually available today? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| $1,500 for each of them, with a $60 subscription for Moxie, and I think it's a $50 subscription month-to-month to keep up with the AI on LEQ. | ||
| Now, these are basically toys in comparison to some of the more advanced systems that we've covered extensively before, right? | ||
| So you have systems like Sophia and Grace that are produced by SingularityNet, which have far, far more complex | ||
| Algorithms actually, you know very very complex artificial intelligence systems that are function as a collective That power their so-called digital minds you also have optimists which Tesla's pouring tons of money and talent into so that strange creature that looks like a Surveillance camera bubble topping Buck Rogers outfit that should be available in two three years It will be far far more intelligent so to speak | ||
| And we'll be gathering far more detailed data. | ||
| And then there are others, you know, I think it's Akiba or whatever that little dog is and so on and so forth. | ||
| You know, really, the most important element of it is not really the robotics. | ||
| The most important element of either one is the chatbot AI. | ||
| Because in this scenario, you have a chatbot that actually speaks in natural language. | ||
| You have tons and tons of other chatbots such as Replica or Wobot that just function off of a smartphone, and they also have these highly developed sort of personalities that lure people into discussing and divulging their innermost thoughts and secrets. | ||
| And so these are rampant. | ||
| All of them available right now. | ||
| People have them in hand right now. | ||
| So, you know, the big question is, who's going to actually adopt these sorts of creatures or these sorts of devices? | ||
| And I think a lot of people are very put off by it. | ||
| I think a lot of people would never want anything like that in their home. | ||
| But the fact that you have so many people already who have them or want them, I suspect that, you know, much like any other sort of bizarre social mutation we've seen in the last 10, 20 years, there's going to be a lot of takers when it comes to social robots. | ||
| I want to make sure this go back and to people understand this, that you actually these are we talk about thinking machines or we talk about learning machines or this whole system of how the system gets smarter with more information. | ||
| These robots, whether it's the child's companion, right? | ||
| With that way, the algorithms written or the companion for someone's grandparent. | ||
| As they talk to it, it actually, the learning knowledge coming up the learning curve, it actually gets smarter about that person and starts to take on its own personality? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And it begins to respond and tailor its responses to that person individually. | ||
| And again, as all of that information is gathered in the aggregate, the central AI systems become that much more intelligent, so to speak, with however many hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands of people that those sensors are out there looking at and monitoring. | ||
| You know, I'm going back over Hans Moravec's book from 1999, Robot, Mirror Machine to Transcendent Mind, and it's very, very disturbing that the timeline that he portrays in which by 2020 basically, he predicted that we would have something like these social robots. | ||
| And by 2030, we would have something much more akin to human intelligence, perhaps just beyond human intelligence. | ||
| And by 2040, you would have machines that had surpassed human intelligence, and these would be the sort of mechanical bodies through which they probed the world. | ||
| Now, Ray Kurzweil took a ton of inspiration from this guy, Hans Moravec. | ||
| That's really in many ways shaped his view of the singularity, which he predicts for 2045. | ||
| But in both of these systems of thought, what you see is this idea that these machines will in fact surpass and replace human beings. | ||
| And this is the people who in many ways are guiding their production or guiding their development. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| We'll take a short commercial break. | ||
| When we come back, we're going to talk about our favorite guy, Klaus Schwab, the World Economic Forum, and how this all plays into the fourth industrial revolution. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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back in a moment. | |
| Out as trans. | ||
| That means it's a teacher that's kind of not a guy and not a girl, like somewhere in between. | ||
| Oh, so you're kind of a boy and you're kind of a girl? | ||
| Kind of, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Me too, that's me. | ||
| Okay, right on. | ||
| I want to be a boy, but I don't like being a girl. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| You know, you have choices in this world to be all sorts of different things. | ||
| But that's why it's MX. | ||
| So, Mixx Chavez. | ||
| That's where that comes from. | ||
| I know some of you were a little confused. | ||
| Some of you came and talked to me about it. | ||
| What? | ||
| Is it technically like a cowboy? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Is it technically like a, a tomboy? Is that what it is? | ||
| Like a girl that like, acts like a tomboy? | ||
| Some people do identify that way. | ||
| I'm actually trans so I'm not a tomboy, I'm trans. | ||
| But some people do and I'm sure if they wanted to they could also go by mix in their classroom. | ||
| Any other questions? | ||
| Do you have any other questions or can we move on? | ||
| E is for... Buy! | ||
| C is for... Coming out! | ||
| D is for... Drag! | ||
| E is for... Equality! | ||
| F is for... Family! | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| We missed a place. | ||
| G is for... Game! | ||
| H is for Hope. | ||
| R is for 86. | ||
| J is for Trolls! | ||
| K is for Kiki! | ||
| L is for Lefty! | ||
| L is for... | ||
| Lucky! | ||
| M is for... | ||
| Lucky! | ||
| N is for... | ||
| Non-binary. | ||
| O is for? | ||
| Orientation. | ||
| Very good. | ||
| P is for? | ||
| Trans. | ||
| Q is for? | ||
| I don't know what Q is. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| Q is for queer. | ||
| Queer. | ||
| R is for? | ||
| Respect. | ||
| S is for? | ||
| Sashay. | ||
| Sashay. | ||
| T is for? | ||
| Tries. | ||
| Good. | ||
| U is for? | ||
| Unique. | ||
| V is for? | ||
| Vogue. | ||
| You know how to vogue? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You do? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was pretty good. | ||
| Okay, turn the page. | ||
| W is for? | ||
| Wonder. | ||
| X is for? | ||
| X. Y is for? | ||
| U. And Z is for? | ||
| Zest. Zest. | ||
| Z-E-S-T. What's the name of this book? | ||
| The Gay BCs. You like this book? | ||
| Showing up to teach fourth grade the day after the Don't Say Gay Bill passes through the Florida House. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Okay, we're back. | ||
| We solved our technical problem. | ||
| We have Keisha King for Moms for America. | ||
| Keisha, in the state of Florida, the legislature's passed this. | ||
| The governor's going to sign it. | ||
| I think most people, when they start to see these things, their minds get kind of like, wow, this is going on in public schools? | ||
| That first clip was from a California, I think a fourth grade. | ||
| A public school on taxpayer money. | ||
| Keisha King of Moms4America, what is going on here and what is your organization doing to stop this? | ||
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Thanks for having me, Steve. | |
| I am so disturbed by these images. | ||
| I cannot believe that it looks like a toddler is reading the gay BCs. | ||
| I have never even seen that clip. | ||
| But, Ma, what is happening in our country, in our public schools, is children are being indoctrinated. | ||
| We can see it right there. | ||
| As young as, you know, they think four, five, Kids who have barely graduated being toddlers, they think it's okay to teach them about sexuality, sex, and gender ideology? | ||
| Are we, have we lost our minds? | ||
| I am so furious, Steve. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I wasn't even, I've never seen the child reading that book. | ||
| That is very disturbing. | ||
| Why not let him learn about just Animals and, you know, fun things and fruit and just normal child things. | ||
| They are trying to indoctrinate our children. | ||
| Over here at Moms4America, we believe that patriotism starts in the home. | ||
| We believe that liberty starts in the home. | ||
| And we are raising our children to be patriots who love our country, to understand our history. | ||
| And mothers are coming back in the home and realizing that we can be the changers of this next generation and teach our own children if we have to. | ||
| But as you know, I am all about pulling kids from the public school system if you can do it. | ||
| And Moms4America is certainly strong supporters of school choice to get your children out of these indoctrination camps. | ||
| We see it right here. | ||
| What more evidence do we need? | ||
| Keisha, we're limited time. | ||
| We're going to have you back on in the next couple days. | ||
| How do people get to you personally? | ||
| How do they follow you on social media? | ||
| How do they get to Moms4America to learn more about your organization? | ||
| You're the executive director. | ||
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Sure. | |
| You can go to Moms4America.us and you can go to KeishaKing.com if you want to follow me. | ||
| All of my information is there. | ||
| Thank you so much for exposing this repeatedly, Steve. | ||
| I really appreciate it because we cannot stop talking about it. | ||
| Now, Keisha, we just want to have the backs of you and these other mothers that have really come to the forefront and taken action. | ||
| And look, you're going to fight this school board by school board. | ||
| And this is, I said from the beginning, this is going to be one of the fights. | ||
| And all we have to do is have the backs of the Keisha Kings of the world and they'll deliver. | ||
| They know how to get things done. | ||
| So we're so honored to have you on here. | ||
| I'm glad we worked out the technical problems. | ||
| Look forward to having you back. | ||
| Keisha King, Moms for America. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
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Thank you so much. | |
| Boy, when Keisha King, who's pretty squared away, when she gets upset just seeing the videos, that tells you how bad things are. | ||
| This is why, I'm telling you, the moms are all over this. | ||
| Joe Allen, hey Joe, can you just give your social media, how do people follow you? | ||
| We had a little technical issue, but we'll get you back on tomorrow. | ||
| Walk through, how do people follow you and get to all your writings? | ||
| You can find me at Twitter and Gitter, at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z. | ||
| You can find a ton of writing at warroom.org, under the Transhumanism tab. | ||
| And you can also find me at my site, joebot.xyz. | ||
| Ton of stuff coming in the coming weeks. | ||
| Okay, Joe, thank you very much. | ||
| You don't want to miss the next hour. | ||
| We go Battleground, War Room Battleground. | ||
| We're going to have the, obviously, the rock star Steve Cortez, or Todd Bensman. | ||
| You're going to be shocked About what's going on in the border and how it's going to affect the 2022 election. |
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