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Episode 1,701 - Chernobyl Comes To America; Bio Weapons In UkraineEpisode 1,701 - Chernobyl Comes To America; Bio Weapons In Ukraine
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Well, the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci ▲ ● ▼
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Stephen Hatfield, by the way, welcome back to the show.
Stephen Hatfield with us, one of the world's leading experts in biological weapons.
Dr. Hatfield, one other question before I get to the answer on the on the Gateway Pundit, because I know everybody's read that story and it's gone all over the Internet.
In your theory of the case, right, in your theory of the case, Victoria Nuland and all the people that head that program should be able to come before Congress like tomorrow, Saturday morning, should be able to come to Congress tomorrow morning and have a complete, unclassified, and we should be able to put up on the screen every facility and just go through everything that's been done there over the last 17 years and talk about all the guys getting master's degrees from Senegal and from Bosnia and from Croatia.
Everybody's there to study and get their bench thing.
Can you hear me, Dr. Heffel?
Dr. Heffel?
Okay, can we reboot him?
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Let's take him down to rebooting.
Here's a question I've got.
Victoria Nuland, and everybody who runs the program, should be able to come to Congress tomorrow and put up a slide of every facility, of everything that's been done, of all the material they have to answer.
She just has to answer the question.
This is not taking any Russian.
Let's assume, for purposes of discussion, which you have to, that everything that comes out of the Chinese is a lie.
We know that, right?
So they're saying we have three or four notes that are a lie.
Okay, let's take him down and kill his mic until you get it up, okay?
Let's kill the mic.
I don't need to have two conversations here.
It's hard enough keeping track of my own conversation.
And Victoria Nuland and whoever's head of the program should be able to sit there and go through, chapter and verse, of every facility and every piece of material.
And we should tee it off as saying, why did you seem so concerned?
And why did you tiptoe through this answer?
And why did Rubio clearly take the misinformation?
He was pure misinformation.
Well, if anything happens here, it's the Russian.
I mean, that's just, and you've seen it on Fox News nonstop.
You've seen it on MSNBC.
And Glenn Greenwald blows that up last night.
It's facts.
We don't know the facts.
I don't know the facts.
I've been doing this, you know, and we're deep into the pandemic thing.
We don't know the facts.
We see some facts.
We need facts.
So if this is nothing, if this is a nothing burger, like Dr. Hatfield says, then they should be able to come and it should be all declassified.
It should be classified because it's a nothing burger.
It's just all these, you know, it's just versions of the University of North Carolina.
Right.
But remember, we've heard all this before.
I hate to say we've heard all this before.
Think about all the smoke and mirrors and misdirection and we're not going to get to the bottom of this until we win a sweeping.
This way it gets back to domestic and local politics and to the school board and the precinct strategy.
We will connect the geopolitical to the hyper-local.
Because the hyper-local is where you turn it all around and take control of your fate.
Take control of your fate as a people, as an individual, as a family.
Okay?
In a time that you need agency, you need to get involved.
Believe me, if you are not personally involved in this, and engaged in this, because you're a combatant now.
I told you, you're a combatant on the economic warfare side.
You're a combatant in Biden.
Here's more importantly, you're a combatant.
Your representatives that you put in office, in the dead of night, pass a 1.3 negative discretionary spending we can't pay for.
We just print money.
We can't, there's no way, taxes, bonds, can't pay for it, gotta print money.
And those are your people that you put in office.
You're a combatant.
Talk about democracy and the responsibilities of democracy.
You're a combatant.
Because that's got $14 billion of relief.
And some of it's for the refugee relief.
But $7 billion, I think, is for more arms and more weapons and all that.
And you're going to get into the thing that you're going to get MiGs over there.
They're going to want an Iron Dome.
And they're going to want a no-fly.
And Zelensky, every day, tells me, you've got to secure the sky.
That's what he says.
You've got to close the sky.
You must close the sky.
So you're a combatant.
Don't sit there and say, it's not me, I didn't do it.
Yes, you're part of it.
You're part of it.
We went back to the German people and said, hey, you're a part of it.
You're part of it.
You're part of it.
All of us.
Me too.
Don't think I'm off the hook.
I'm part of it.
That's what I'm spending all this time getting to the bottom of this.
But we should get we've seen all the spin before by this whole group of North Carolina and all that.
And we have still no earthy idea because we haven't had straight answers.
Fauci comes up then there's little tiny arguments and guys light him up and we play the three minute clip.
Of Senator Marshall or Senator Rand Paul or Jim Jordan or somebody lighting him up for the two minutes they got to light him up.
There's been no deep dive investigation on this here in this country about exactly what went on and how.
And write this down.
It was man-made in the Wuhan lab.
Now, a lot of guys saying, oh, no, no, it's in the Ukraine lab and transfer.
Hey, I do know it came out of Wuhan and it's it's made by the hand of man.
There's enough evidence out there to show that, and I don't care all this new stuff.
He jumped from a cave in here, and it traveled up 4,000 miles, but there's no farmer and no other thing that's got it, but miraculously showed up, you know, a half a mile from the P4 lab in a duck, in a mongoose, right, that somebody ate.
Somebody ate a mongoose just randomly at lunch.
Let's take the office out for lunch.
Everybody working on the bench, let's go for lunch.
Go eat a duck.
Ridiculous.
Ridonkulous, as we say.
Okay, I got half a kill back.
So, Dr. Hatfield, she should be able to come, and your theory of the case, remember, I revere you, your theory of the case, they should be able to go before Congress this afternoon with every chart of every facility in the Ukraine, the 17-year process we've done to try to take things down, all the guys from Senegal and Croatia and Hungary, they're studying all their bench things, and we should see every, because it's all declassified, it shouldn't be any classification, no problem,
Victoria Nuland and her team should be able to do that.
You agree with that?
unidentified
Yeah.
This is open research.
The press are making a big thing about this.
And it's absolutely ridiculous.
We've seen what happens when the press try to run a pandemic.
You know, a billion people dead.
And these same people that were overnight coronavirus experts are now suddenly international policy experts.
You know, it's ridiculous.
Some of the statements, even out of Fox News, are just absolutely ridiculous.
Even out of Fox News?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Even out of Fox News.
OK, but let's go back to your... Why then...
Was Victoria Nuland, who is the non-scientist part of understanding that part of the apparatus and has a level of responsibility, that's how she was asked the question.
Why did she say that we as a government are concerned about the Russians getting their hands on the biological research material, sir?
unidentified
I have no clue.
You know, why do people... I need to be careful here.
Why do many people say the things that they do?
She was obviously under stress.
She's not used to this.
I'm not even sure where she was speaking, the backdrop.
But it takes two seconds to destroy this stuff.
You flush it down the drain.
End of story.
The chlorine in the water kills it, unless it's cholera.
So, what should be done is that these type culture collections that all these places have, samples that they've collected over the years from various outbreaks and things, these actually should be removed and protected.
Nobody's mentioning that the only people that have a biological weapons program are the Russians.
And they have a superior, very superior biological weapons program.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hold it, hold it.
Dr. Hatfield, that's just categorically wrong.
The Chinese Communist Party, PLA has a very advanced biological weapons program, sir.
So you're just dead wrong in that.
It's not the Russians.
unidentified
The Russians don't have a biological weapons program.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I didn't say that, sir.
You said the only group in the world that has a biological weapons program is the Russians.
That's just factually incorrect.
unidentified
No, I said the Russians can't.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Okay, fine.
You're saying the Russians are more advanced than the PLA's biological weapons program?
unidentified
Yes.
They've been at it for longer.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
And why would that be?
unidentified
Let me just hang on for a second.
I thought that Russia and China were their parties to the Biological Weapons Treaty.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I'm not going to do. No, no, no. No classified. But you hit my point. I'm I'm I'm. Let me just hang on for a second. I thought that Russia and China were their parties to the biological weapons treaty. By definition, you cannot have a biological weapons program because.
Are they in violation of that treaty and is China in violation in an unclassified way to your mind sir?
unidentified
Sure But did China sign the biological weapons convention?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I'm not saying they had to get to no no they had to to get to the P4 They had to become part of the World Trade Organization.
Yes, they're signatories to this.
unidentified
We're jumping around all over the place here on this interview, and it's hard to make a point here.
Russia has a lot of biological weapons program in this area.
They have a very good program, a very sophisticated program.
Thirty years ago, They took out part of their own city with an accident.
A laboratory mistake at a military production facility.
Sverdlovsk.
The name of this place has changed now.
So, they were putting this stuff on intercontinental ballistic missile warheads.
Alright, that's pretty advanced.
And they're not going to throw those weapons away when you've got 1.2 screaming Chinese on your border.
Okay.
They won't let some of our people in there.
They never let some of our people into some places.
So I don't want to hear about an agricultural research station or a public health facility that basically probably has the same capability as what's in the town I live in.
Maligned.
Because some journalist thinks it'll sell newspapers or something.
Or Marco Rubio doesn't know enough about the situation to ask a logical, direct question.
And you have a very poor spokesperson up there, I'm sorry.
I'm sure she's a wonderful person.
But, she didn't know what she was talking about.
Or couldn't express it.
And now there's this big Kafufla over something that is not in existence.
The Russians are going to drag out some fake documents and call it concrete evidence.
I don't know.
The papers I've seen are still in Russian.
I haven't taken Russian for 40 years and all I can remember to say is I love you.
So, and does your father have a shotgun?
Seriously, people will translate this stuff and we can all have a look at it.
The evidence shows they didn't have anything.
And I expect this will just be nonsense and theater at the United Nations on close analysis.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
What should we be looking for?
You're going to watch it, so we'll check in with you.
It started right now.
Why don't you go watch it and say don't miss any of it.
and will return. And enlightening as always Dr. Hadfield, I've learned a lot.
Just like the Zen master, hit them with a stick. Ask good questions. Dr. Hadfield, thank you so much. Honored to have you on here, sir.
unidentified
Appreciate it. Nice to see you again.
Always good to see you, sir.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Dr. Stephen Halffield is not going to watch the presentation by the Russians.
They say they're coming with receipts.
We'll find out.
You see Dr. Halffield saying it's all nonsense.
And he's going to watch this.
And hey, we're here to make sure you get all the information.
We're taking a short commercial break.
We've got Tommy Waller.
We're going to talk about Chernobyl and about the situation in Chernobyl and what's really you should be thinking about.
What that means for us and what it means for us here with the situation we have.
We've also got Boris, we've got Ben Harnwell, Momster Liberty, Denver.
We're going to go out to talk about everything.
A lot going on.
There's this live coverage right now simultaneously with the UN Security Council meeting on the situation with the biological research facilities and the biological research material in the Ukraine.
All next in the War Room.
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Just watch and see.
It's all started.
Everything's begun.
And you are over.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Cause we're taking down the CCP!
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We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CCP!
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
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The other night want to go to I quickly want to go to this and by the way, Dr Hatfield Hatfield's watching the presentation is going to take place at the Security Council.
We got other people watching as soon as anything important will break into that.
I got Tommy Waller from over Frank get remember Frank's the co-founder with us a couple of us on the.
Committee on the present danger of China, but he also runs the Center for security policy the director of infrastructures Colonel Tommy Waller You've you and Frank have been working on something It's quite disturbing for you because it ties back to Frank's work about critical infrastructure here in America And we've told people hey we're combatants now We're an economic war with the Russian people because of what we're trying to take down the central bank And so you know all bets are off.
Walk me through why is Chernobyl and the problems in Chernobyl Colonel Waller Why should people in the United States worry about that here?
Why should people in the United States worry about that, about what could happen here?
unidentified
Sure.
Yeah, well, the media reports on Wednesday were that the electric power grid that supplies power to the Chernobyl reactor site, which of course you and I both know is no longer active, it's used to cool the spent fuel, spent nuclear fuel there.
Without grid power, they've got to rely on emergency diesel generators.
And the word at the time was that they only had maybe a couple days worth of fuel for those generators.
Now, fortunately, they were able to restore power quickly.
The generators never went down.
And thankfully, because that nuclear site is so old, that spent nuclear fuel would probably never get hot enough to actually cook off the water that circulates through and cause the sorts of fires that could really be catastrophic to both the environment and society.
What it serves, though, as you mentioned, Steve, is as a wake-up call for us, because we have 86,000 tons of spent nuclear fuel here in the United States, which much of it needs to be kept cool the same way as it is in Chernobyl.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hold on, hang on a second, Colonel.
How many tons do we have here in the States?
unidentified
86,000 metric tons, and we get about 2,000 more tons annually produced.
This is the This is not the fuel that's in the reactors, but once it's expended, right, these fuel rods in the reactor create, it's an outstanding way to make electricity.
It's clean, carbon-free, and it's actually probably the safest industry in our country.
But the fuel rods, after they come out of the reactor, they have to be cooled.
And usually for about five years, they have to be submerged underwater.
Well, those spent fuel pools, as they're called, that infrastructure that surrounds them is not the same.
As the reactors, not the same type of containment.
And so the concern that we've had for over a decade is that if there were a widespread, prolonged outage of the electric grid, because that grid provides the power to the safety systems that keep that water circulating to keep those spent fuel rods cool.
We were to have that happen and the backup emergency diesel generators were to fail or run out of fuel.
That could be a serious issue for the United States, environmentally and society.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, Colonel, yeah, it'd be DEFCON 1.
Colonel Waller, I know Frank's been focused on the EMP problem with the grid, but we've also, you know, Russia's a superpower in offense of cyber war.
And now that we've engaged in hybrid war where you get kinetic, they're shelling Kiev and Odessa and all these places.
But on the unrestricted hybrid warfare side, information war is crazy right now.
Cyber maybe hasn't kicked in, but economic, we're full on hardcore economic war with them.
What is the exposure?
And since you're head of infrastructure policy over there, how exposed is our grid in the United States to a cyber attack, sir?
unidentified
Completely, completely exposed, Steve.
I'll refer you back to a short paper I wrote just at the onset of this crisis in Ukraine, and it quotes from senior experts in our government, including one, George Cotter, who served at the NSA for over 40 years.
He retired as the Chief Information Officer.
And what he testified to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, FERC, that regulates the bulk power system back in 2019 was that the only thing preventing our adversaries, particularly Russia, from taking down our grid via cyber was their restraint.
He chronicles in these writings to FERC all the ways in which the critical infrastructure protection standards established to protect our grid from cyber security attacks have actually been done in such a way that there are massive gaps that can be exploited by Russia, China, or anyone with similar cyber capabilities.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Well, Colonel, we're going to get that up, the paper up in our chat rooms and all the We're going to have you back.
Colonel, how can people get you over at the Center for Security Policy and what's your social media handle?
unidentified
So the most important thing that people can do right now is go to securefreedom.org.
The very first thing you'll see is a decision brief that talks about this issue of spent nuclear fuel.
In that decision brief, there's a place you can click to take action and send our elected officials and the NRC commissioners an email that says, for 11 years, they have sat on a petition that asked them to take care of this problem of a long-term loss of power for spent nuclear fuel.
We have an opportunity now with the wake-up call that we see in Ukraine and the focus on their nuclear power that Americans can actually take part in this opportunity to get Congress and the NRC to fix a problem we've known about for a long time.
So securefreedom.org, look at the very first decision brief, read it, and then click on the take action button at the top.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Colonel Waller, thank you very much for joining us here.
Great work.
You guys are doing over there.
So, let's get that for everybody.
Doesn't cost you any money.
Just go there folks that read the decision paper and make you get that for 1st.
Do that and then share it become a force multiplier because we're trying to get to all the issues we guys start thinking about now because you're at war and you're a combatant.
I want to bring in Boris Epstein here Boris.
I know we get other political stuff to talk about but that this spinning out of control.
Uh by uh Biden administration and quite frankly the Republicans to pass this bill in the middle of the night the 1.3 trillion or 5 trillion deficit bill discretionary spending bill because of 14 billion dollars in Ukraine and make that it's like it's so important you don't have to read a 2700 page and you're gonna start seeing all this crazy stuff coming out but it's too late Biden's gonna sign it's gonna be law of me spending money.
Boris, what's your assessment right now that—and by the way, we've got the UN hearing right now on the situation with the biological research facilities.
Someone, I think at the UN, has categorically stated, I think at the beginning of the—and I want to get this right—UN official Izumi Nakamitsu says that the United Nations is unaware of any biological weapons in Ukraine.
That's a statement at the start from the UN.
unidentified
Well, first of all, the UN is unaware of anything.
The U.N.
is one of the most worthless international—and this is my background, Steve, right?
Georgetown School of Foreign Service, you know, my studies after.
I cannot overstate just how useless the U.N.
is.
The only thing the U.N.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼
is good for—and this is not a joke—is to give money to Fendi, Ferragamo, and Prada and others when it's U.N.
unidentified
week in New York City in September of every year.
That is the only thing, some gridlock in New York and some income for the fancy stores and the fancy restaurants and the fancy hotel.
The UN is a rudderless, worthless, unbelievably fattened organization.
And I'm not saying that Russia's right.
I'm not saying Ukraine is right.
I'm on record saying that I believe that Putin has made a mistake going into Ukraine.
My point here is strictly on the UN.
The UN actually makes the League of Nations look useful.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hang on a second.
Can we go to live coverage?
Are they speaking right now?
The Russian Federation?
Let's go to the representative.
Let's go live.
unidentified
30 biological laboratories in which very dangerous biological experiments are being conducted aimed at strengthening the pathogenic qualities of the plague, anthrax, tularemia, Cholera and other lethal diseases using synthetic biology.
This work is being done and funded and supervised by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency of the United States, including in the interest of the National Center for Medical Intelligence of the United States Ministry of Defense.
The key role in implementing this program was placed by the Central Reference Laboratory with the biosafety level three, using for its the basis of the Ukrainian Scientific Anti-Plague Institute named after Mechnikov and located in Odessa.
An active participant here was also conducted by research centers in other cities of Ukraine, in Kiev, in Lvov, in Kharkov, in Dnepr, in Kherson, in Ternopil, in Uzhgorod, and in Vinnytsia.
The results of this work were being sent to military biological centers in the United States, including into the U.S.
Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases, into the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, into the naval medical research of the U.S.
Navy and into the U.S.
Army Biological Warfare Laboratories in Fort Detrick, which used to be being key facilities of the American program to develop biological weapons.
All of these materials are available on the website of our Ministry of Defense, and our Ministry of Defense is describing them in the course of their daily briefings.
Let me just dwell on the more salient examples.
Our military became aware of the details of the Project UP4, which was being conducted in laboratories of Kiev, Kharkov, and Odessa.
The goal is to study the possibility of spreading particularly dangerous infections using migratory birds.
And this includes a highly pathogenic influenza H5N1, whose lethality for people reaches 50%, as well as in the Newcastle disease.
There was another project where the vector of the potential agents of biological weapon, bats, were considered.
Amongst priority areas for study, they include the bacterial and viral pathogens that could spread from bats to people, such as plague, leptospirosis, and as well as filoviruses and coronaviruses.
As can see from the project documents, the United States actively funded the biological projects in Ukraine.
Experiments were being conducted to study the spread of dangerous diseases using ectoplasma Ectoparasites such as lice and fleas.
Even non-specialists understand that such experiments are one of the more reckless because they do not give you an opportunity to control how the situation is going to develop further.
Similar studies using lice and fleas as agents were conducted in the 1940s by the infamous Squad 731 of the Japanese Army, whose members, by the way, found refuge in the United States and escaped justice.
Ukraine has a unique geographical location.
A whole number of migratory routes cross there for potential spreaders of disease, and many of them go through Russia and Eastern Europe.
The research I just mentioned was conducted at the very heart of Eastern Europe and in immediate proximity of the Russian border.
As the data we received shows us, the birds which were ringed and released as a result of bio-research in Herson Zoo, they were caught in Ivanovo and Voronezh Oblast of the Russian Federation later.
And the analysis of the materials shows that there was a transfer from biolaboratory in Kharkov abroad of about 140 containers with ectoparasites of bats.
And we do not know what was the further fate of these dangerous materials and what a consequence is going to be of the fact that there was no international control there and they just simply will simply dissolve quite probably over Europe.
In any event, there is a very high risk that they will be stolen and used for terrorist purposes or that they will be sold on the black market.
Using the pretext of curing for coronavirus, from Ukraine into the Walter Reed Institute in the United States, several thousand samples of the blood serum of the people was taken, and most of them are of Slavic extraction.
Everyone knows how careful people in the West are when it comes to transferring the biomaterials of Western nationals abroad.
And there is reason for that, because in theory, bioagents can be created, which can selectively target specific ethnic groups.
At the same time, the activity of biological laboratories, who we notice have been accessed since 2014, and what is being implemented by the United States within the program of so-called reform of Ukrainian health care, led to an uncontrolled growth in Ukraine when it comes to particularly dangerous and economically important infections.
There is a growing number of German measles cases, diphtheria and tuberculosis.
The cases of measles went up by a factor of more than 100.
World Health Organization declared Ukraine a country with a high risk of an outbreak of poliomyelitis.
There is also evidence to show that in Kharkov, where one of such laboratories is located, in January 2016, 20 Ukrainian soldiers died from the swine flu and 200 more were hospitalized.
By March of the same year, in Ukraine, 364 people already died from swine flu.
The outbreak of African swine fever in Ukraine has become a regular occurrence.
In 2019, there was an outbreak of a disease which symptomatically is very close to plague.
At the time when the military biological studies in the United States were removed because of danger to the people, the Kiev authorities basically agreed to make their country into an experimental platform and using their citizens as guinea pigs.
These experiments with a potential Work for the entire country is something that went on for years and we can see in this yet another confirmation of an extraordinary cynicism of Kiev's mentors who tell us all the time that they're very concerned by the fate of the Ukrainian people.
If we are to believe what is being said by Reuters and the WHO recommended that Ukraine should eliminate the particularly Dangerous pathogens they have to make sure that they avoid leaks.
Otherwise, this could lead to the spread of diseases amongst the population and we don't know whether Kiev implemented that recommendation.
The Ministry of Defence of ours has materials stating that all of the serious studies of high level of danger in biological laboratories in Ukraine were conducted under the leadership of specialists of the United States who had diplomatic immunity.
Currently, according to our Ministry of Defense, the Kiev regime, according to their request of their Western mentors, are trying to clean it all up to make sure that the Russian side does not find direct evidence that the United States and Ukraine are violating Article 1 of Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention.
Their biological programs are being urgently Closed up and the Ministry of Health of Ukraine said it's of the goal to, as of the 24th of February, fully destroy the bio agents in laboratories.
The analysis of instructions in laboratories tells us that the order of liquidations is aimed at their irretrievable elimination.
Our analysis shows that in Lviv alone, 33 containers with leptospirosis agents were destroyed, 30 with tularemia, 10 with brucellosis, 5 with plague.
Overall, 320 containers.
The nomenclature and the excessive number of biopathogens leads us to believe that these work were conducted within framework of a military biological program.
I would like to address my colleagues from Europe separately.
Right next to the European Union, you've had an experimental platform for extremely dangerous biological trials.
And we call upon you to think about a very real biological danger to the people in European countries, which can result from an uncontrolled spread of bioagents from Ukraine, which, as we have seen with COVID-19, is impossible to stop.
And if there is such a scenario, then all Europe will be covered by it.
Representatives of the United States provide confusing information about the involvement of the United States in this activity.
Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State, basically confirmed the fact that there were dangerous studies being conducted in Ukrainian laboratories in Congress on the 8th of March.
There was a direct question put by Senator Marco Rubio and she replied and said that in Ukraine there are research structures which should not end up in the hands of the Russian armed forces, end of quote.
At the same time, the State Department continue insisting that on the territory of Ukraine there are no Um, laboratories under the control of the United States.
We would like to, in this regard, put a question to the American delegation.
How can this tally with the agreement of 2005 between your Ministry of Defense and Ministry of Health of Ukraine about cooperation in the area of development technologies and pathogens which could be used so as to develop bioweapons?
This document exists in the Internet.
And in line with Article 3 of this agreement, the Ministry of Defense of the United States can extend assistance to the Ministry of Ukraine in the area of joint biological research, determining threats from biological agents and working out a response to them as relates to, and I quote, to the dangerous pathogens deployed on objects on the territory of Ukraine.
And I would like to underscore here that biological threats, because of its very nature, knows no borders.
There is no region in the world today who can feel safe.
The United States are overseeing several hundreds laboratories in about 30 countries in the Middle East, in Africa, Southeast Asia, and also on the perimeter of the former USSR.
Placing it under international verification is something that Washington is categorically refusing to do.
They've blocked, since 2001, a legally binding protocol under the Biological and Toxic Weapons Convention about creating an effective verification mechanism to ensure compliance.
And this can but lead us to the thought that the United States have something to hide.
I call upon colleagues in these regions to think about what kind of an activity Washington is conducting on their territory, what the consequences for your people will be.
I can foresee what the reaction will be from our Western colleagues, who I'm sure are going to be saying now that all of this information is fake and Russian propaganda.
But this is self-delusion and I do not think this will be helpful to the European people in case there are outbreaks in Ukraine or neighbouring states with further spread and bringing in their wake dangerous diseases.
The risk of this is very real, given the interest that the radical nationalist groups in Ukraine are showing towards the work with dangerous pathogens conducted together with the Ministry of Defense of the United States.
We also know that in any, in the case of any such incident, Pentagon told their Ukrainian colleagues to immediately accuse the armed forces of the Russian Federation of this, say that they are striking against scientific and medical institutions and to, or link these incidents with the Russian diversionary groups.
The Ministry of Defense of Russia continues analyzing the biological situation in Ukraine and the materials we keep receiving.
What we told you today is a very small portion of the information that we have.
Detailed information is something that we will disseminate in the very near future.
As an official document of Security Council, you will be able to study it.
We think it is our duty to keep the Security Council informed of the situation when it comes to the military biological activity by the United States.
In Ukraine, it creates real risk for international peace and security, and we intend to revert to the discussion of this topic in the very near future.
We do not exclude the possibility of invoking the mechanism of Articles 5 and 6 of the Biological Toxic Weapons Convention.
At present, however, we expect to hear responses from the American side to the questions that we put.
I thank you, Madam President.
I would like to thank the representative of the Russian Federation, and I give the floor to the representative of Albania.
Thank you, Madam President.
Let me thank USG DiCarlo and USG Nekomisutu for their information.
I would like to make the following points.
First, we meet at the request of Russia following allegations on a possible program of development of biological weapons in Ukraine.
We listened to their statement very carefully.
Madam President, any issue regarding weapons of mass destruction should never be taken lightly.
As we just heard from the USG, the United Nations is not aware of any of the alleged programming consistent with international treaty obligations, including on chemical or biological weapons.
We heard about health facilities in Ukraine.
We have heard repeatedly also a firm rebuttal at the highest levels from both the US and Ukraine.
Therefore, Russia's allegations are, in our opinion, part of the information warfare, false, unsubstantiated, part of the usual propaganda and the disinformation coming from Russia, conspiracy theories not worth our time.
The Council should not be served with fantasies or story-eyed stories, but with proof, independently verified and corroborated.
This is not the case.
However regrettable all this is, it is hardly surprising since everything, absolutely everything we have been hearing from Russia regarding Ukraine has been false, fabricated or distorted.
These are all in the public space and do not deserve mentioning, but the real palm d'or goes to the Russian declaration just two days ago, according to which Russia has not attacked Ukraine.
Well, as we saw last week, the UN General Assembly has a different account.
In every other situation, everyone would have thought that this is a joke, except for the fact that this joke is destroying a country, is killing civilians, and is responsible for more than 2.5 million refugees and counting.
That translates to 7,000 people per hour.
Reportedly, this is also responsible for the death of several thousand Russian soldiers, but this is an issue for Russia and its people.
All the more reasons for the immediate ceasefire and leave place to negotiations.
Second, Madam President, Russia has a long and well-documented track record of using chemical weapons, including in attempted assassinations and in poisoning its own citizens, like the jailed opposition leader Alexei Navalny or the Skripals.
Bellingcat reporting has been brilliantly able to make a direct and refutable link of the attempted deadly poisoning with GRU high officials.
We should therefore be very worried that in spreading such disinformation, a crescendo of allegations about weapons of mass destruction could serve as yet another pretext for Russia to prepare the ground and use chemical or biological weapons during its ongoing invasion of Ukraine while accusing others.
After all, Russia has accused Ukraine of genocide in Donbass, which is ridiculous.
It has also accused Kiev of seeking to produce nuclear weapons, which is outrageous.
It has accused Ukraine of bombarding its own cities, which is preposterous.
As we have heard many times, including yesterday, Russia has and continues to support the regime of Bashar al-Assad in Syria, which has used chemical weapons against the civilian population.
Dear colleagues, What should retain our attention and deserves our time is the escalating situation that is wrecking two countries, threatening a whole continent, and disrupting the entire world.
Fifteen days into this brutal invasion and the growing armament might of Russia, with the open complicity of Belarus, has stalled before the steel-clad and indisputable right of a nation to defend its land.
Russia's goals are as abhorrent as the means it is using to achieve them.
We are horrified by the catastrophic situation in Mariupol and other besieged cities where civilians are starved, by the use of cluster ammunition and in urban areas, as we heard during the briefing, by the redoubling of blind shelling and bombardments, by more than 26 assaults on various health-related facilities or including ambulances, as confirmed by the
WHO and confirmed during this meeting, by outrageous and immoral acts which constitute war crimes.
These are facts.
Nothing seems to be going as planned in Ukraine.
The unprovoked, unjustified and premeditated act of aggression by Russia, again with the complicity of Belarus, lacks any legal or moral ground.
The very ones that, in turn, empower Ukrainians to fight heroically, be ready to die for the ideals they believe in, for the right to choose who they want to be, to be shapers of their own destiny.
In this respect, we welcome the conclusions of the European Council, which, among other, welcomed the will of Ukraine to join the European Union.
We are warm-hearted by the Ukrainian resistance, incomprehensible maybe to the invader, and which should be seen as an inspiration and a reminder that freedom always prevails over tyranny.
Let's not forget, colleagues, if Russia makes its way into Ukraine, it will not stop there.
It will want more.
And, as history reminds us, aggression works like a drug.
This is why David must and will prevail.
I thank you.
Thank you, Mr. President.
And thank you to our briefers for your remarks this morning.
Thank you Mr. President and thank you to our briefers for your remarks this morning.
Russia asked the Security Council for today's meeting for the sole purpose of lying and spreading disinformation and that is exactly what you have heard from the Russian PR this morning.
You also heard from Ms. Nakamitsu that the UN is not aware of any biological or chemical weapons programs in Ukraine.
Last month, Secretary Blinken laid out with tragic accuracy what Russia was about to do.
He specifically warned that Russia would manufacture a pretext for attack and even cautioned that Russia would fabricate allegations about chemical or biological weapons to justify its own violent attacks against the Ukrainian people.
Today the world is watching Russia do exactly what we warned it would.
Russia is attempting to use the Security Council to legitimize disinformation and deceive people to justify President Putin's war of choice against the Ukrainian people.
And China too has been spreading disinformation in support of Russia's outrageous claims.
I will say this once.
Ukraine does not have a biological weapons program.
There are no Ukrainian biological weapons laboratories supported by the United States.
Not near Russia's border or anywhere.
So here are the facts.
Ukraine owns and operates its own public health laboratory infrastructure.
These facilities make it possible to detect and diagnose diseases like COVID-19, which benefit us all.
The United States has assisted Ukraine to do this safely and securely.
This is work that has been done proudly, clearly, and out in the open.
This work has everything to do with protecting the health of people.
It has absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing to do with biological weapons.
In fact, it is Russia that has long maintained a biological weapon program in violation of international law.
It is Russia that has a well-documented history of using chemical weapons.
It is Russia who is the aggressor here.
It was Russian operatives who poisoned Alexei Navalny and Sergei and Yulia Skripal with nerve agents.
It is Russia that continues to support the Assad regime in Syria and shield it from accountability when the UN and the OPCW have confirmed that Assad has repeatedly used chemical weapons over the past several years.
And we're deeply concerned that Russia's calling for this meeting is a potential false flag effort in action.
Exactly the kind we have been warning about, including from Secretary Blinken here in the Security Council last month.
Russia has a track record of falsely accusing other countries of the very violations that Russia itself is perpetrating.
And given that, and consistent with our previous statements, we have serious concerns that Russia may be planning to use chemical or biological agents against the Ukrainian people.
The intent behind these lies seem clear, and it is deeply troubling.
We believe Russia could use chemical or biological agents for assassinations, as part of a staged or false flag incident, or to support tactical military operations.
From the beginning, our strategy to counter Russia's tactics has been to share what we know with the world transparently.
And candidly, we have been right more than we'd like to.
We're not going to let Russia get away with lying to the world or staining the integrity of the Security Council by using this forum as a venue for legitimizing Putin's violence.
Russia has attacked homes, schools, orphanages and hospitals. Russia has attacked civilian infrastructure, including water and sanitation facilities. Their forces are laying Ukrainian cities under siege. Hundreds of thousands of civilians now don't have access to electricity for heat or drinking water to stay
alive. Russia is the aggressor here. And despite Russia's best efforts, the media and everyday Ukrainians are documenting this truth on the ground.
Russia can't paint over the front page of the New York Times, which on Monday featured the bodies of a Ukrainian mother and her two children, who died while trying to cross a bridge outside Kiev in their attempt to flee to safety.
Russia cannot cover up the work of AP news reporters who captured a doctor attempting to resuscitate an 18-month-old girl who died from Russian shelling in Maripol.
Russia cannot suppress the social media posts confirmed and amplified by CBS News that told the story of the 11-year-old Ukrainian boy who fled to Slovakia by himself with only a passport, a plastic bag, and a phone number scrawled on his hands.
Russia cannot silence the Al Jazeera report of Russian soldiers terrorizing Ukrainian cities.
And Ukrainian journalists are risking their lives every day to deliver to the world the latest on-the-ground facts, such as Novo Vremya reporting on the reckless behavior of Russian forces toward Ukraine's nuclear facilities.
Russia is failing in its quest to create an alternative reality.
In fact, not even Russian diplomats can keep their propaganda straight.
Just yesterday, the Kremlin spokesman said he didn't have clear information about the Russian forces who fired on a maternity hospital.
Then the Foreign Minister himself denied Russia attacked Ukraine at all.
Right before admitting that Russia deliberately targeted this maternity hospital in Meripool.
Their fabrications didn't matter because the world had already seen the searing images broadcast on CNN of bloodied pregnant women being evacuated from the scene of Russia's attack on the hospital.
Even Russia's own citizens are tiring of such lies.
Russian athletes are writing No War on their shoes and on TV cameras.
Russian citizens are marching in the streets and protesting Putin's war of choice.
And even Russian state TV pundits, Putin's own propaganda arm, have called for Putin to stop the military action.
This is why we didn't object to holding today's meeting.
Today's meeting has confirmed our predictions, reveal Russia's objectives to the world, and expose Russia's lies for what they are, a malicious effort to cover for the atrocities being committed by Russia as part of their illegal and unprovoked attack on Ukraine.
It is a page directly out of the Russian playbook, and it will not convince us one bit The world is watching.
Photographic and video evidence is mounting, and you will be held to account for your actions.
We will not let atrocities slide.
Unlike the Russian government, whose first instinct is to silence, we are confident that truth and transparency will prevail.
We call on President Putin to end this unprovoked, unconscionable war against the Ukrainian people.
Thank you.
I thank the representative of the United States and I now give the floor to the representative of France.
Mr. President, I thank Let us be serious.
and Nakamitsu for their briefings.
I wish to denounce in the strongest of terms the unfounded allegations of Russia.
Russia would have us believe that chemical attacks are being prepared in Ukraine.
Russia would also have us believe that there are bioweapon research laboratories.
Let us be serious.
No one is fooled by Russia's lies.
They are part of a cynical disinformation strategy and a smokescreen which Russia has used to make into a veritable weapon of war.
We denounced these irresponsible provocations just a few days ago at the OPCW, along with 46 other states parties.
Furthermore, this is not the first time that Russia is spreading lies to cause confusion.
fear, and more importantly, cover up its own responsibility.
Let us remember the facts.
It is Russia and not Ukraine that resorted to chemical weapons in recent years on European soil.
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You're seeing live coverage of the United States UN Security Council meeting about this bioweapons labs, or the ones that Russians are accusing of very brutal accusations by the Russian representative, and so far there's been a lot of discussion, but no actual confrontation with those associates.
The briefings that we heard this morning are clear.
The reality is that Russia
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