March 11, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| How do Russians read that, and do we need to be more clear about what they can and cannot do? | ||
| I mean, we've said that they can't do what they're doing now, and they're doing it anyway. | ||
| Well, so I am firmly in agreement with my friend and colleague Ambassador Herbst that, you know, we should allow for Vladimir Putin to keep guessing, keep guessing about what we will do. | ||
| However, when it comes to weapons of mass destruction, I mean, there we really need to rally the international community. | ||
| We need to make it clear to Vladimir Putin and the Russian people and everyone else that we can get to What they are essentially threatening, and not just with the chemical weapons because, as you know, they've also threatened nuclear use. | ||
| I still don't think, of course, that we should come into direct combat with them, but he is saber-rattling and we cannot be deterred. | ||
| We need to throw everything into this fight that we can. | ||
| There's no difference between the MiGs and the Stingers. | ||
| They're both lethal weapons that we provide to the Ukrainians that they use to kill Russians. | ||
| He has asked us for aircraft, specifically MiGs. | ||
| We need to get him those MiGs. | ||
| It's a bipartisan message. | ||
| It's not just us. | ||
| We had a hearing this morning with the Foreign Relations Committee. | ||
| The Chairman, Chairman Menendez, said the same thing. | ||
| Senator Shaheen said the same thing. | ||
| Democrats are saying the same thing. | ||
| Send these MiGs! | ||
| And the question is, well, why aren't they being sent? | ||
| Because we've heard now for days that this is something that's being discussed. | ||
| Enough talk! | ||
| People are dying. | ||
| Send them the planes that they need. | ||
| They say they need MiGs. | ||
| People say, well, maybe that's not the ideal weapon for them. | ||
| That's what they say they want. | ||
| They're there. | ||
| They have the eyes to determine what they want. | ||
| They want MiGs. | ||
| Get them the MiGs. | ||
| This ban on Russian oil has already sent gas prices rising and yesterday the inflation rate hit another 40 year high. | ||
| NBC News correspondent Morgan Chesky has the latest on the impact on consumers. | ||
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This morning, new inflation numbers confirming the struggle facing millions of Americans. | |
| Every week is something new. | ||
| It's beef prices, it's produce, it's avocados, it's takeout containers. | ||
| Now it's fuel. | ||
| Fuel, food, and shelter the biggest drivers behind inflation's highest increase in four decades. | ||
| The Consumer Price Index report showing a 7.9% rise over the last year. | ||
| And in Washington, the Biden administration acknowledging it may get even worse before it gets better. | ||
| Blaming Putin's war in Ukraine as a prime contributor. | ||
| The American people know how important this fight is. | ||
| I think they know that as painful as the price is today, the costs are going to be higher if we do not act now to deal with this tyrant. | ||
| Okay, Friday, 11 March, the year of our Lord, 2022. | ||
| The War Room's here to provide you, provide this audience, a still point, not in a turning world, but in a world that is spinning out of control. | ||
| And one of the reasons it's spinning out of control is because of a lot of bad decisions made upon a lot of faulty analysis, on a foundation of pure emotion, pure emotion. | ||
| And not hard, cold logic and tough decisions. | ||
| And you're seeing this is for and particularly for young people that catch this show or download the podcast. | ||
| You're seeing something hyped up and it's even more hyped up. | ||
| This is more revved up right now than when we went to war in Iraq. | ||
| With all the disastrous consequences of the 20-year debacle and all the dead we left behind, all the families we broke, all the treasure, the $9 trillion in Iraq and Afghanistan, all of it, this is more ramped up than I've ever seen, and that's why we're going to be More than ever. | ||
| A place where you can actually walk through and see what reality is. | ||
| Not spin. | ||
| Not spin from the Russians. | ||
| Not spin from the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Not spin from the KGB. | ||
| Not spin particularly from the Party of Davos and their media propaganda arm. | ||
| But to actually look at what is important and what is happening. | ||
| And you can see with the immaturity of someone like Mitt Romney. | ||
| Think what Mitt Romney would have been As a president of the United States, think about that for a second. | ||
| I mean, it is scary. | ||
| He's like an 11 year old girl. | ||
| That's what he thinks, like an 11 year old girl. | ||
| I've met some pretty tough, Captain Maureen Bannon was pretty tough at 11. | ||
| She was already a pretty outstanding athlete. | ||
| So I say that not to denigrate 11 year old girls, because I've met some tough ones and some hard ones. | ||
| I gotta tell you. | ||
| There's a lot of 11-year-old girls dying right now in Ukraine. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And people are going to ask, why are they dying? | ||
| Right? | ||
| What can be done to stop that? | ||
| Is sending MiGs over there going to stop that? | ||
| Is sending old armaments over there going to stop that? | ||
| As Zelensky now revs up the guilt-tripping of where are the commitments, where are the promises, where are you guys, the cowards, where are you? | ||
| And we're starting to see this thing get revved up every day, every second of every day. | ||
| To talk about the power of this audience for a second, we've got a lot to get through, but I've got to explain this. | ||
| We had Russ Vogt, who, Russ was the head of OMB, one of the smartest guys around, and has a political staff to go through the whole budget. | ||
| And we talked, the House passed this, but they were talking about a CR for four or five days, because the Senate had all this. | ||
| Well, lo and behold, ladies and gentlemen, as we were monitoring yesterday, In the dark of night, it passed. | ||
| The 13 trillion dollars passed. | ||
| Excuse me, excuse me, the 1 point, I should say, they say 1.3 trillion, it's really 1.5, but the 1.3 discretionary spending, not the entire, but the entire appropriations done. | ||
| Over $5 trillion, and $1.3 trillion or more, because when you add in the interest, it'll be over $2 trillion, that we don't have any money to pay for. | ||
| We'll have to print new money, you know, more obligations onto your children and grandchildren, and also for you, anybody under 40 years old. | ||
| They passed it last night, in the dark of night. | ||
| 2,700 pages, and Cornyn, and here's why they passed it. | ||
| I want to make sure you understand why they passed this in the middle of the night, 2,700 pages, and Cornyn, who I think said there's no way to run a railroad, we didn't even have a chance to go through 2,700 pages, and you'll see all these reports coming out of all the earmarks and all the tiny stuff, but the trillion dollars for defense spending, not the 800 billion, it's really a trillion, all of that. | ||
| And you know what it was? | ||
| The whole reason that your government committed another deficit of $1.3 or $1.5 trillion, the entire reason they worked all night and passed it in the middle of the night so that the war room posse couldn't man the phones the next day and blow them up over four or five days is what we had planned. | ||
| That's what we were going to do, kick off the show and get on with it. | ||
| The reason was that the 14 billion dollars and a 1.3 trillion to impoverish your kids and throw more gasoline onto the onto the inflation thing It was the 14 billion dollars the 14 billion dollars for for Ukraine That Ukraine is so now so important and this is Republic 6831 said a ton of Republican support this collaborators. | ||
| It's so important it is such the center of the universe and That what we have to do is not have a bill that says, we don't have time to read it, much less understand it, much less debate it and figure out this thing just gets dumped on them. | ||
| Remember the Senate, the founders made the Senate structured off the Senate of Rome. | ||
| The great republic, the republic that our founders looked at as the, and if you read the Federalist Papers and read all the things, the impact of Republican Rome was so important to them. | ||
| That's where, remember, the people in the Senate of Rome, the people in the Senate of Rome, at the highest levels of the Senate, where wise men could weigh and measure events and solutions and make judgments. | ||
| That's what this Senate is supposed to be. | ||
| So remember this, ladies and gentlemen, and please, it's good now to say, and I would say to the audience, one thing to do, don't even call it a diary, because some people... I want you to start keeping what we call an aide-memoire. | ||
| Just at night, jot down two or three things and date it. | ||
| Of what was said, of what would happen. | ||
| And you'll see the arc of this. | ||
| You're living history. | ||
| This is history. | ||
| This is like the 1930s. | ||
| This is the Dark Valley. | ||
| And everybody looks back, oh yeah, I would have been with the Revolution, I would have been fighting with the Civil War, I would have been in Gettysburg defending Cemetery Ridge, I would have been, you know, in Normandy, I would have been all there. | ||
| Well hold it, you're here. | ||
| This is what this is. | ||
| This is the 1930s, and we're hurdling, we're accelerating at an accelerating rate, spinning out of control. | ||
| Now there's a lot of good news, there's a lot of excellent things happening. | ||
| Some we don't have time to pay attention to, but we're working behind the scenes non-stop. | ||
| Those all become stories, but there is a logic here of what's happening. | ||
| I want to bring in Ben Harnwell. | ||
| I've got Harnwell, Hatfield, Posobiec, bringing in our heavy guns here. | ||
| There's a big, at 11 o'clock today, there's going to be a Security Council meeting on these, what Victoria Nuland said the other day, is the biological research facilities and the biological research material. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And we're not taking the Russian spin on this or the KGB spin on this. | ||
| But Glenn Greenwald's got a good point up, it's that, hey, all of a sudden, everybody's, well, the New York government's, well, hold it, the Wuhan lab and Tony Fauci, have they played straight with anything about what's actually going on at these labs around the world? | ||
| We're going to have Stephen Hatfield, who I think is the top expert. | ||
| You know, his bona fides are pretty strong. | ||
| Pretty strong bona fides. | ||
| But I want to go to Ben Harnwell first. | ||
| Ben, in the reality of what's important, the markets popped up because of what Putin's been saying. | ||
| Walk us through the important things. | ||
| I want to start with where we are in the negotiations that are actually going to get us a ceasefire and peace here. | ||
| Not corridors and people out, but actually get the stop. | ||
| Because remember, you see that opening with the one minute of the rockets? | ||
| Remember, somebody's on the receiving end of that. | ||
| When you see something like that, somebody is on the receiving end of that. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| The receiving end of that. | ||
| So think about it. | ||
| It's hell on earth right now. | ||
| Where it's been hell on earth, Ukraine means borders in Russian, or the Ukrainian language, or the dialect of the Russian language that is Ukrainian. | ||
| I know their heads are blown up. | ||
| They've got their own language and culture, yes. | ||
| They do, parts of it. | ||
| But for 3,000 years, it's been the borderlands. | ||
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And the term means border, means borderland. | |
| And it means bloodlands. | ||
| And when you look at that from World War II, right, all the way from Poland, the Baltics, all the way down to the to the bloodlands into into over there near Stalingrad. | ||
| And that's where, you know, the smartest minds we had in World War II, like FDR and these guys, under no circumstances would take Churchill's bait and get caught up in the Balkans, where Churchill always wanted to get into the Balkans. | ||
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The answer was no, no, no. | |
| We are not doing that. | ||
| We are never going to do that. | ||
| These were some wise men that helped bring the successful conclusion of World War II with limited casualties to the Americans. | ||
| Limited casualties. | ||
| The valor and courage of our people, and we lost hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands. | ||
| But we could have lost millions and millions and millions. | ||
| And our leaders weren't prepared to do that because they were smart. | ||
| And most importantly, they were tough. | ||
| They were tough and they can make tough decisions that adults have to make. | ||
| Then we got about a minute and a half here. | ||
| Walk me through where we are on Putin, the bid and the ask on the real peace talks. | ||
| So we spoke yesterday, Steve, about the four conditions that Russia had put down on the table for the ceasefire. | ||
| And the sticking point was the territorial integrity of the Donbass and Crimea. | ||
| Lavrov said in the meeting yesterday in Turkey, Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, that President Putin is available to speak to the Ukrainian President Zelensky for the talks to continue. | ||
| And that was basically the big movement on the Russian side. | ||
| The news follows that, is that now Zelensky's side has said that he is ready to sit down and talk with the Russians whenever Putin is ready. | ||
| So this is exactly what we've been saying as we've been discussing these talks. | ||
| Hold on, hold on, hold on. | ||
| You have to be precise. | ||
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Ho, ho, ho. | |
| You have to be precise. | ||
| He's prepared, Zelensky's prepared to sit down with Putin. | ||
| Not the Russians. | ||
| He's prepared to sit down with Putin one-on-one. | ||
| Okay, that's a big condition. | ||
| He's not prepared to sit down with the Russians. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| We're gonna go to commercial break. | ||
| But Putin's just come out. | ||
| Reuters is reporting what, Ben? | ||
| That Putin has said that he believes these discussions are making progress? | ||
| Ben? | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back, sir. | ||
| We got Jack Posobiec. | ||
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We'll be back in a moment War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
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With Stephen K Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| We've got a lot to get to and we get Jack Pasovic, Ben Harnwell's, I got additional information he's working on right now. | ||
| We're getting Dr. Hatfield on here at 11 o'clock today, a huge U.N. | ||
| Security Council meeting about these biological labs, biological material, all of it. | ||
| Russia's putting out, we've got an active weapons program. | ||
| We're saying that we're just there from 2005 to clean up the mess they left behind. | ||
| So it's a big gap between the bid and the asked. | ||
| Okay, just like there is in this peace negotiations or to try to deescalate. | ||
| I want to bring in Pasovic. | ||
| Pasovic, you laid out a couple days ago one of the most rational things and if you look, if you use that as an intellectual construct, and I need the audience now to start thinking about constructs so that you can take all of this stuff that's coming at you and you have a mental map of how to process it. | ||
| So it's just not random. | ||
| If you allow it to be random, like people watching Fox, you're just going to be overwhelmed with the images. | ||
| The images of the suffering, and that is clearly a big part of this, but it's not the only part, and sometimes it may not be the most important part. | ||
| And I'm not saying that to be hard or cruel, but the reality of when these things, the process and processes when they get rolling. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, I think, had probably the most brilliant construct the other day on this show, which is the only place I've heard it, by the way, except for Jack's podcast. | ||
| Well, Steve, you know, I said that early on, and even going into this, obviously, we said we don't want war, we do not support war, regardless of who launches it, right? | ||
| Let's do your theory of the case and walk us through how that fits in now with escalators versus de-escalators. | ||
| Well, Steve, you know, I said that early on and even going into this, obviously we said we don't want war. | ||
| We do not support war regardless of who launches it, right? | ||
| You know, this is something that we want to find off ramps for. | ||
| But I said now you're seeing people separate into two camps and the two camps are the escalation versus the de-escalation. | ||
| So when I hear Mitt Romney out there saying, oh, we need to give the MiG 29s, well, are these American MiG 29s? | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| They're Polish MiG 29s. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that entire I called it the the Polish NATO hot potato. | ||
| situation that went through this week where they said, we give them the MiG-29s and Poland said, no, we'll give you the MiG-29s and you can paint little US flags on them on the sides. | ||
| You can fly them out of Rammstein Air Base and you fly the MiG-29s into Ukraine because they understood, the Poles understood that what happened again, the Westerners were trying to frame Poland into starting World War III. | ||
| Mitt Romney never talks about the logistics of this situation. | ||
| What do we always say? | ||
| Amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics, and the devil is in the details. | ||
| If those MiG-29s are being flown, From NATO territory, then of course, Russia is going to strike the airfields and the on-ground infrastructure being used to field those planes. | ||
| Hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| You're an intel officer, they've been saying all morning, they're saying, because they know Jack Passoba is going to say this and Steve Bannon is going to say this, so they're saying, there's no difference, Jack, between putting the MiGs up there and talking about the no-fly zone and giving the Stinger missiles or giving the surface-to-air batteries. | ||
| What say you, sir? | ||
| A complete joke, complete joke. | ||
| And first of all, stingers and man pads and javelins, those are all personal operated handheld devices, right? | ||
| And the javelin and the NLAW, by the way, what a feat of military ingenuity and innovation, right? | ||
| This thing, it's, I mean, you lock onto a tank, fire and forget, single use, but incredible, right? | ||
| You launch an actual missile from your shoulder. | ||
| It's not the bazooka from World War II days, right? | ||
| This thing, you lock on target, boom, tank is done. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| So it is a force multiplier. | ||
| But what about the anti-aircraft batteries they were sending, the anti-aircraft missiles? | ||
| What's the difference? | ||
| They're saying there's no tactical, if you're going to do that, you might as well give them jets. | ||
| No, it's the same idea. | ||
| Javelin is for land, stingers and manpads are for air. | ||
| It's the same idea. | ||
| It's still being operated by Ukrainian personnel from the territory of Ukraine. | ||
| A MiG-29 or any fighter weapons fighter jet system is going to require an on the ground force. | ||
| It's going to require active support. | ||
| It's going to require runways, or perhaps they can build some scratch runways somewhere to be able to operate these things from. | ||
| But Russia understands that. | ||
| Russia's going to hit those fields, and you have to think beyond step one. | ||
| A lot of these problems are caused because we have people in our government and people on our media that are not thinking beyond step one. | ||
| They're not thinking about second order and third order effects, and they're doing everything they can to try to escalate this situation into the territory of Poland or into the territory of Romania as a possibility. | ||
| In terms of, you just have to look at the range of the MiG-29 to understand this. | ||
| The range of the MiG-29 is only about 800 miles for a combat op. | ||
| These things are not going to be flying CAP all over the territory of Ukraine. | ||
| Talk about escalation. | ||
| What's the situation in Belarus? | ||
| Is this a Russian false flag, false misinformation, or what's exactly happening in this attack in Belarus? | ||
| Okay, so, you know, just within the last 10 minutes or so, we've got reports that there has been, or potentially has been, again, fog of war, fog of war, all the usual caveats, an attack on an airstrike on a village in Belarus, on the territory of Belarus, right on the border between Belarus and Ukraine. | ||
| And of course, Belarus has been used as a launchpad for a number of Russian, both military, both army strikes and airstrikes into Ukraine. | ||
| However, what we've got now are two competing narratives that are being launched out of One, the Ukrainian saying that this was conducted by a Russian fighter from the territory of Ukraine, from the skies over Ukraine in that airspace. | ||
| But you've got the Belarusians coming out saying, no, this was a Ukrainian jet that fired on us. | ||
| You've got these competing narratives. | ||
| But again, you're seeing a situation where it's escalation, where they're talking. | ||
| So obviously, if it's able to, you know, regardless of what What we say or what the Ukrainians say, if the Belarusians, if Lukashenko over there, the autocrat in charge of Belarus, is able to say that this was a Ukrainian strike, he's going to use that to call up the Belarusian army, which has not up to this point really fielded any troops into the fight. | ||
| If he says Ukraine has fired on a Belarusian village, he's going to declare war. | ||
| And then you could see an entire second armed force come in on support of the Russians. | ||
| The entire convoy down that the logistics chain or train around Kiev all came through Belarus. | ||
| So Belarus is a major staging ground for the Russian operations. | ||
| I want to talk about the de-escalation crowd, and specifically talk about Putin has just told Reuters, which has got the markets Zero Hedge has a thing about markets up on the on the or bounced on the Putin saying that he believes these talks are actually making progress is the word he used progress on the four points. | ||
| Zelensky, as Ben Harnewald said, has a signal. | ||
| He's prepared to sit down with Putin. | ||
| What do you make of all this? | ||
| This is the de-escalation part of it. | ||
| What do you make of this? | ||
| Because this to me is the signal. | ||
| The rest of it is the brutal warmongering noise. | ||
| Well, look, one name that you haven't heard at all, and I'm going to bring up, that I think actually could be key to all of this, is Erdogan, the leader of Turkey. | ||
| And a lot of people missed the fact that Lavrov and the Ukrainian foreign minister, Lavrov was the Russian foreign minister, actually met in Turkey yesterday. | ||
| So that means it was being facilitated by Erdogan. | ||
| Erdogan, of course, is a NATO member. | ||
| NATO has been a huge, you know, a huge, another hot potato in this entire situation, really a causes belly for the Russians. | ||
| If Zelensky is talking to Erdogan, Erdogan of course we know is very close to Putin, but he's also that NATO member. | ||
| He controls the Bosphorus Strait, the strategic straits, the Dardanelles that connect the Black Sea to the Mediterranean. | ||
| So much of this is about the Black Sea. | ||
| They're right across the Black Sea from Ukraine. | ||
| Get Erdogan on the phone. | ||
| Say, Vlad, you come down from Moscow. | ||
| Zelensky, you come down from Kiev. | ||
| We'll guarantee safe passage. | ||
| Call for a ceasefire. | ||
| During the talks, you could hold the talks right in Istanbul, you could hold them right now, you know, wherever you want to do in the presidential palace, you know, strategic neutral area, and then find a way to actually end the fighting. | ||
| That's the person, if the Biden administration were being smart, number one, they'd be putting sanctions on the oligarchs of the Chinese Communist Party that are underwriting this invasion. | ||
| And number two, they'd be calling up Erdogan. | ||
| Bingo! | ||
| We're going to get to that in one second. | ||
| Anything else? | ||
| By the way, Ben Honoreau, this is why his report is so great. | ||
| As I remember, Ben said, what's not being reported is the third party to the talks, not just was in Turkey, the Turkish Foreign Minister was actually in some of the meetings as part of it. | ||
| So Jack Posobiec and Ben are absolutely correct. | ||
| Turkey is a member. | ||
| And Turkey is a NATO member, but also not in the EU, which is another whole controversy. | ||
| We're talking about the Assad meeting. | ||
| One foot in, one foot out. | ||
| But who's pushing, you know, Zelensky, who's pushing this? | ||
| Who's pushing the EU part of this? | ||
| We know Zelensky is. | ||
| Who on the EU side? | ||
| Before, I know you got a punch, but the Washington Post, there are very few things out there that are real information. | ||
| There's a lot of spin, a lot of cant, and a lot of stuff that's misdirection plays, misinformation. | ||
| The Washington Post has got a brilliant article up. | ||
| I want to make sure Denver has it. | ||
| They say, look, there's two information wars going on here. | ||
| Remember, we talked about hybrid and unrestricted warfare. | ||
| Information war is a key part. | ||
| There's two information wars. | ||
| There's Zelensky to the House of Commons and to the American media and all that. | ||
| And he's playing up as a superhero now. | ||
| And he's getting the Legion of Honor and the Reagan Freedom Medal. | ||
| You know, Mike Pence is over there showboating. | ||
| So you got the Zelensky part, and then you have the Putin part. | ||
| But Zelensky's getting the hearts and minds of the West, but, or at least the hearts, I'm not sure he's got the minds, he's got the hearts. | ||
| But Putin's winning, because number one, he's getting the Russia, but more importantly, he's winning in China with Xi and the way it's being presented to the Chinese people. | ||
| Jack Posovic, you're a Mandarin-speaking and Intel officer, China specialty. | ||
| Is the Washington Post correct? | ||
| Steve, The Washington Post, actually, well, whoever wrote this op-ed, is correct in a sense, but I don't think they're correct for the wrong reasons. | ||
| What they're missing is, is that this is the plan. | ||
| What you're seeing is a systemic de-globalization process. | ||
| You're seeing a de-globalization that's being led by Moscow, that's being led by Beijing, and potentially, you could see the Indians, you could see the Brazilians getting online with this, with BRICS, South Africa, of course, huge part of that. | ||
| The territory of Turkey, of course, we talked about Erdogan. | ||
| They're splitting the world up now into two systems. | ||
| They've decided to declare that the system of globalization has failed, which and certainly they wouldn't be the first to say so, and they are setting themselves up for success while we are letting ourselves be set up by this gremlin in Davos called Klaus Schwab and his Great Reset. | ||
| They're constructing de-globalization while we're we are still trying to build globalization. | ||
| No, we're live. | ||
| Jack, I know you're in a hurry. | ||
| Can you give me two minutes on the other side? | ||
| Can you hang for the break if you can't? | ||
| I'll let you punch and give your... Okay, hang on. | ||
| Pacific Sun, stay with us. | ||
| We've got the great Dr. Hatfield. | ||
| We're doing a little pregame at 11 o'clock. | ||
| It's going to be a pretty important meeting. | ||
| Two sides diametrically opposed to the information war of exactly what has happened with what Victoria Noolan told us, the biological research facilities and the biological research materials War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Welcome back to warren's. | ||
| Does Denver have this yet? | ||
| Remember, I had this on my paper, because I got my Financial Times, I'm always putting up in your grill every day, but I had to go back. | ||
| On January 22nd, to Subic's point, and if the Denver can put it up, if we do have it or not, that's okay. | ||
| Let me get up there. | ||
| Russia and China's plan for a new world order. | ||
| 22 January, year of our Lord 2022. | ||
| Talked about the new world order that the Russians and the Chinese have tried to put together. | ||
| If you saw the movie The Brink, actually, part of it where the filmmaker is like, oh, Bannons are crazy. | ||
| I go around with my little pen. | ||
| I used to give a lecture about, or not a lecture, a talk. | ||
| About China, Russia, and Persia, and Iran. | ||
| That tripartite alliance to try to control the Eurasian landmass. | ||
| That was back in 2018. | ||
| And I've been preaching the gospel of that for many, many years. | ||
| That this is a consolidation of the Eurasian landmass, as Jack Bassovi just talked about. | ||
| And the Financial Times highlight they're going to use Ukraine to do this. | ||
| Jack, this is a thing that will change not just world history, I want everybody in this audience to understand, this will change your life dramatically if we allow this to happen. | ||
| On that process, Jack, walk me through, who's on the right side of history here, do you believe right now? | ||
| The escalators or the de-escalators? | ||
| Jack Posobiec. | ||
| Well, look, I'm an anti-war guy, right? | ||
| I'm the kind of guy who says that I want things to be settled peacefully, diplomatically and economically. | ||
| And now I think we had this experiment at one point to try to turn the world into this one global market. | ||
| We were going to get rid of borders. | ||
| We were going to get rid of nationalities. | ||
| Everybody has one passport, you know, this idea. | ||
| And they failed to they just failed to really stand for and understand human nature. | ||
| They failed to understand the power of history because it turns out that history does exist. | ||
| And when people become pushed so hard to try to remove their national identity, there will always be forces to push that back. | ||
| That's just human history. | ||
| And you can you can choose to ignore history, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring history. | ||
| And so Russia, China, Iran, Turkey, they understand history and they are constructing now a de-globalization project. | ||
| And Russia is saying, look, while we do this, we do not want to allow Those eastern marches of Ukraine, those approaches to Moscow from the east, we don't want it. | ||
| We don't want any of that coming. | ||
| So we are going to bring that along with us. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, thank you very much. | ||
| By the way, the counter is the post-war liberal international rules-based order, which has allowed our greatest enemy, the Chinese Communist Party, to rise to become a superpower. | ||
| And they're the ones in back of this right now. | ||
| That's why Russia's feeling confident. | ||
| Because, as Jack Posobiec said, they're being underwritten by this. | ||
| The Chinese have their back. | ||
| They're the underwriters of this. | ||
| They're the winners. | ||
| I am actually a super hawk. | ||
| As it as it as the book Josh Rogan's book that talks about the best book to come about China and the confrontation with China and the Bush and the Trump administration. | ||
| I'm the leader of the Super Hawks because my focus from day one is you got to take down the Chinese Communist Party free the Chinese people have the Chinese people free themselves the entire audit all the dictators collapse. | ||
| It's it's the railhead is Beijing and now because of emotion stupidity and I think people that have a vested interest In this outcome, we are now seeing a collapse of the possibility of doing that, because we're uniting all the bad hombres, okay? | ||
| Iran, Russia, I think Turkey also, I'm not an Erdogan fan, and obviously run by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Throw in Pakistan and their little buddy in North Korea, their mini-me. | ||
| You've got a world of hurt here, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| A world of hurt, okay? | ||
| Jack Postovic, how do people get to Human Events Daily? | ||
| How do they get to all your great, brilliant content you put up every day? | ||
| It's, of course, Human Events Daily. | ||
| It's available anywhere. | ||
| You can get podcast, Apple, Spotify, Rumble. | ||
| I'm up 24-7 on Gitter, Human Events Daily. | ||
| We are the Cliff Notes of War Room. | ||
| And I'd just like to say, God bless to everybody out there. | ||
| And Catholics, know me today, because it is still Lent. | ||
| And one last thing, Jack. | ||
| Real quickly, a minute. | ||
| Give me 60 seconds on how important 11 o'clock is. | ||
| Glenn Greenwald says it's pretty important. | ||
| What do you say? | ||
| The Security Council. | ||
| Look, I think this is going to... | ||
| I think the Security Council meeting is, I think it's going to be perfunctory, to be honest. | ||
| I think it's going to be a situation where the United States is going to be confronted with a lot of these claims. | ||
| Now, of course, Russia doesn't have control of the biolabs yet, so they're not going to be able to show any specific materials in there, but it could be perfunctory. | ||
| But we're going to see, do we get responses like Victoria Nuland, where they're leaking things out that they probably don't want in public? | ||
| But again, at the same time, Anything we can be doing where, look, if we're stalling for time, if we're talking, if we're holding these dialogues, I think that's important because that, again, is something that goes to de-escalation. | ||
| And by the way, whatever's in these labs, you know, if it's pathogens, if it's active, look, my call is incinerate and burn it to the ground. | ||
| Don't want to go into anybody's business. | ||
| Jack, thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| By the way, has Biden come on at 1030 and my phone's blowing up? | ||
| What's he talking about? | ||
| Somebody tell me what he's talking about and let's get focused on this. | ||
| Sanctions. | ||
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What? | |
| More sanctions. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| I would like to know that if this is happening, you know, in back of me. | ||
| Okay, let's bring in Dr. Steven Hatfield. | ||
| You, let me know if this is going on. | ||
| Dr. Steven Hatfield. | ||
| A lot's been said about you got people saying, oh, they're weapons labs and we've got an active program and that's why Putin's going in. | ||
| You've got that. | ||
| You got all this Russian disinformation. | ||
| But Victoria Nuland shocked people by her answer and the way she was clearly nervous answer that their biological research facilities with biological research material that we're quite concerned about falling in Russian hands. | ||
| Why would that be so? | ||
| You're the world's top expert, you're the big get, and we got you. | ||
| You were our first advisor here, as one of the co-hosts in War and Pandemic on January 20th of 2020, because you were the leading expert. | ||
| What is this all about, and how big a deal is this, sir? | ||
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Shouldn't be a big deal at all. | |
| It's being amplified by the press, the mainstream media, like they amplify everything else. | ||
| I've never seen anything like this. | ||
| Cooperative Threat Reduction was a program, a good program. | ||
| It was part of the Global Surveillance Initiative, if you want to call it that, to detect unusual outbreaks of disease, either agricultural, farm animals, sheep, pigs, cows, or unusual clusters of human cases. | ||
| Both with pathogens we're expecting to change and cause trouble, like bird flu. | ||
| You know, you'll get a small cluster of people in all with the same symptoms. | ||
| It's a good idea to be able to rapidly diagnose what they have. | ||
| Also, the Ukraine has a number of unusual diseases. | ||
| Endemic. | ||
| Congo-Crimean hemorrhagic fever. | ||
| This is transmitted by ticks, but it's a nasty hemorrhage. | ||
| But hang on a second, hang on a second. | ||
| We entered this thing because they had these facilities left over from the Soviet days and that was in 2005. | ||
| Does it take, why are they still around in 2017? | ||
| I understand there's a big anthrax facility or some anthrax facility in Odessa. | ||
| Why are these things still, why does it take you 17 years And why is Victoria Nuland saying, hang on, hang on, why is Victoria Nuland saying we're concerned about the material getting into the Russians' hands, sir? | ||
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Any material that's there is small quantities. | |
| It's either stored in liquid nitrogen or in minus 70 degree two compressor freezers. | ||
| It's fragile. | ||
| It's sensitive stuff. | ||
| If it's at room temperature too long, there's problems. | ||
| If it's, you know, not handled very carefully, it falls apart. | ||
| These serve as controls for a lot of the tests. | ||
| You're running a test on an unknown pathogen, you get a positive result for one thing, you want to make sure with a small sample of the real organism that that's positive as well and with another organism that it's not. | ||
| It's no big thing here. | ||
| We have these labs scattered all over the United States. | ||
| There's labs like this in Sierra Leone. | ||
| It's a global effort for emerging infectious diseases. | ||
| Chinese lost a good fraction of their pig population for swine fever over the last few years. | ||
| If that happened in the Ukraine, this is a major economic thing. | ||
| Let me take it another way, because you're the expert. | ||
| You say there's facilities all over the world, nothing to worry about these facilities, we got them in the United States, we got them in the University of North Carolina, hang on a second, hang on a second, because I'm not an expert, you are, but I've got to ask it in a way that at least makes sense to me so I can try to understand it, maybe then the audience. | ||
| We just went through a situation, correct me if I'm wrong, and now BBC's saying today they only count at one third of the dead, there's really 18 million dead, not 6 million dead from the CCP virus that was promoted as coming from animal to animal transfer, animal to human transfer, right? | ||
| But we have always been in this show from the very beginning that that was a lab, maybe a scientific lab, but it was turned into some sort of bioweapons lab and that this thing came out of there either inadvertently or on purpose, whatever, but it was done by human hands. | ||
| So when you look at these things throughout the world, and by the way, the Chinese have been adamant from day one, it's just there to make sure they don't have another COVID outbreak, another SARS outbreak, or some pig flu. | ||
| If you've got them all over the world and you have them in the Ukraine, isn't it possible that you've got people that are on those faculties like Dr. Barak down in North Carolina, the University of North Carolina, all you Tar Heels, you're at the railhead of this problem. | ||
| Dr. Barak doing things. | ||
| Why Barack Obama? | ||
| In his National Security Council, Dr. Hadfield, in 2000, was it, 14, shut the whole thing down, said we can't be doing these gain-of-function experiments because it's, you got University of Maryland doing it, you got these guys, it's out of control. | ||
| Isn't it, I mean, isn't that the problem? | ||
| You may have these facilities, and no offense, 17 years later, you haven't cleaned them up or shut them down, and why would they still be going in a country like Ukraine, Dr. Hadfield? | ||
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These facilities were completely remodeled. | |
| They were turned over from whatever they were under the Soviet Union into public health and agricultural health. | ||
| Things like the FDA's APHIS or USDA APHIS looking for unusual outbreaks of normal animal diseases or unusual animal diseases. | ||
| These are open institutions. | ||
| If you look at the 2005 DOD agreement with the Ukraine, You can go in with an unannounced inspection at any time. | ||
| International people are in and out of these labs all the time. | ||
| They're not high containment. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| You have universities in Ukraine. | ||
| People want to be microbiologists. | ||
| This is employment for your young students. | ||
| It's handing it on to the next generation. | ||
| Public health concerning humans. | ||
| Animal health. | ||
| Involving domestic agriculture. | ||
| These are rational programs. | ||
| International people are in and out of all these facilities. | ||
| There's about seven I think of them. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| If you have a bio weapons program, you don't understand. | ||
| You need specialized equipment. | ||
| You need specialized personnel. | ||
| Are these all at the P1 or P2 level? | ||
| You don't think there's no facilities that are P3 or obviously P4 in what Victoria Nuland was discussing the other day when she said there's biological research facilities? | ||
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Victoria Nuland is probably the most pathetic spokesman I've ever seen in my life with all respect to her. | |
| She looked terrified there. | ||
| There's better people to have as spokesmen for something this important. | ||
| We got to take a commercial break. | ||
| Hold that because I want to leave the audience hanging. | ||
| She may be the worst spokesman, but she's kind of the person, and the reason Rubio asked the question, she is somewhere in the chain of command, right? | ||
| And her hands have been all over Ukraine. | ||
| So we got Dr. Stephen Hatfield, a world expert in all this. | ||
| The UN is going to start at 11 o'clock. | ||
| Biden, I think, took one half question and walked away. | ||
| Didn't mention anything about this. | ||
| Talk about more aid to the Ukraine. | ||
| Dr. Stephen Hatfield. | ||
| A short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back in a moment. | ||
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War Room, pandemic, with Stephen K. Bannum. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| By the way, we've got great news coming out of Colorado. | ||
| There's a new report out. | ||
| I think we're trying to get Colonel Sean Smith on here. | ||
| We've got all types of great political news. | ||
| We've got the Monster Liberty. | ||
| There's stuff happening. | ||
| We haven't taken our eye off the ball. | ||
| We're working 24-7 on this, but we've got to put forward so you understand, so you're not overwhelmed. | ||
| We are not going to allow another Iraq war to happen where the sleepwalkers... Remember I said yesterday, the great book about World War I? | ||
| We're not going to sleepwalk This one will be a global conflict. | ||
| It's a regional now. | ||
| It'll be a global conflict if we continue to go down and do what Mitt Romney and these other ridiculously immature people are saying to do. | ||
| And they're immature and they're dangerous. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Now, Dr. Hatfield, you've seen Dr. Hatfield. | ||
| Dr. Hatfield is the very first person we brought in here. | ||
| We started War on Pandemic. | ||
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Why? | |
| I'm not an expert in any of this, but I reach out, just like in my business, I reach out to the best people in their area. | ||
| And I was told Dr. Hatfield is the guy. | ||
| And, you know, Dr. Hatfield does not suffer fools gladly. | ||
| So I've learned at his knee and been beaten by his stick many times. | ||
| And he's a lot more curt with me offline than he is even being nice here on the show. | ||
| But Dr. Hatfield, I gotta go back to Victoria Nuland, but here's the thing. | ||
| Victoria Nuland, who's one of the architects of the Color Revolution, had her hands all over Ukraine with the globalist policy of the American elites. | ||
| I think her dad's Ukrainian, right? | ||
| So she's of Ukrainian descent. | ||
| All over this. | ||
| And it's just not Ukraine. | ||
| She's all over it. | ||
| Her husband's one of the great neocon warmongers. | ||
| When Rubio asked that question, Rubio, and I've asked people in the state of Florida to go to Rubio's office and call and say, hey, was it CIA or DIA gave Rubio those questions to ask at the time he asked them, right? | ||
| When Rubio asked it, he was shocked by the answer. | ||
| You could tell she was very nervous. | ||
| But when she said, hey, you know, we have there's there's there's biological research facilities. | ||
| And we're just concerned about their safety and security. | ||
| And they are biological research material. | ||
| And we're quite concerned about that falling into the hands of the Russians. | ||
| And we're taking efforts to do that. | ||
| Why, when that question was asked, one of the things that was most stunning, I think up until that time, and we've had the agreement in 2005, but why it appeared like the U.S. | ||
| government had been going out of their way to say that these things didn't even exist. | ||
| Why, why, why have we gone out of our way? | ||
| Of not to highlight the 2005 program and what we were doing to clean it up, and to make a case why it takes 17 years to take care of this. | ||
| Not to support, and I'm not talking about facilities that have the student from Senegal who's up there to be a microbiologist to go back and help his people. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| They come up there and Ukraine's got these universities. | ||
| That's all fine. | ||
| And I'm not talking about that. | ||
| I'm talking about things that would have Victoria Nuland, sir, say that we're concerned enough about the biological research material, her quote, not mine, falling into the hands of the Russians. | ||
| Her quote, not mine. | ||
| Dr. Hatfield, and why had they gone out of their way, just like Fauci and these guys did in Wuhan, did in Wuhan, to say there's nothing to see there? | ||
| Why is that, Dr. Hatfield? | ||
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Let me answer. | |
| You need to define what a facility is. | ||
| A biological facility. | ||
| If you're making biological weapons, or you're testing them, or you're determining aerosol stability, you need a bunch of specialized equipment, some of it very sophisticated, that you have to purchase. | ||
| We watch all this. | ||
| There's a whole section of regulatory agencies that monitor what countries are ordering what equipment. | ||
| These facilities aren't open. | ||
| Have guest students and guest researchers, okay? | ||
| This is an open facility. | ||
| It's no different than facilities in the United States. | ||
| Every state has a National Guard unit that has this type of, to some degree, rapid diagnostic capability. | ||
| You also want to keep a tight culture collection of pathogens you've found in the past or strains that you've isolated from your region. | ||
| You store these in liquid nitrogen, or as we said, in minus 70 freezers. | ||
| You work on these. | ||
| You sequence them. | ||
| You may play around with some of the proteins and see how it's functioning. | ||
| This is all legitimate research. | ||
| It has nothing to do with biological weapons. | ||
| We don't even know if, you know, most things can't even be weaponized. | ||
| There's only a handful of agents that actually can be weaponized into a biological warfare agent. | ||
| Because they're unstable and they're outside of the body. | ||
| What in Wuhan when you say that we hang out when we say we can monitor and people are monitoring and take some of those people's Will we monitor we're we monitoring Wuhan did we know that Wuhan at the time because remember you and I and I love you like a brother we You and I have disagreed from the very beginning about Wuhan, about the human-to-human transfer versus the man-made, and I'm a man-made guy, because I think the evidence leads there. | ||
| Of that same monitoring group you just talked about, that we can tell who's putting what thing, the French were supposed to be the guys to, but were we monitoring Wuhan and knew exactly what went in there, sir? | ||
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Well, the fact is China makes a lot of this stuff themselves. | |
| So unless China gave it to the Ukraine. | ||
| Look, we've had inspectors in there. | ||
| There's reports. | ||
| There should be somewhere. | ||
| These people publish open source research. | ||
| They publish their findings. | ||
| There's a paper out on migratory birds looking for bird flus out of them. | ||
| There's one out on Congo Crimean hemorrhagic fever. | ||
| You can meet these researchers on YouTube. | ||
| I'll tell you what, I'll put a couple of these videos and what these labs do up on my website. | ||
| But they're decent science. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Look, this is why we have you on our expert. | ||
| Jim and Joe Hoff, the great guys at Gateway, have been up there, put this thing up today that Russia's put out that they have the receipts. | ||
| These are the receipts. | ||
| This is before 11 o'clock and we're going to be doing wall-to-wall coverage on this. | ||
| We've also got Tommy Waller in about Chernobyl. | ||
| Something else for your audience to worry about. | ||
| Uh, is, uh, and Dr. African, can we keep you for a few minutes? | ||
| We have a 90-second break coming up, but the question I want to ask you, and don't answer it, just hold it, because I want the audience to hang for the second hour. | ||
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| The Hoffs today put up the receipts that prove what Russia's been saying, and what China's been saying it now, and Russia's been saying it, that the U.S. | ||
| has been working with Ukraine, that certain elements of the U.S. | ||
| government have been working with Ukraine, and that there's an active biological weapons program going on in these labs, and that's the whole reason for this entire war, is because we're trying to protect that, and Putin is the great crusader who's trying to come up and save the West. | ||
| Short commercial break, we're going to get in the back of Russian and Chinese disinformation, yes or no, from the brain of Dr. Stephen Hetfield. |
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