Dec. 8, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Very little in that respect, if you think about it, to hold Putin back. | |
| He's obviously got these troops with them there, right? | ||
| But they are there, and also, there's certainly nothing wrong with us, Neil, getting our troops in place in NATO countries that are treaty allies of ours. | ||
| So I would be supportive of that. | ||
| You know what, Senator, he could finish it. | ||
| I would not rule out military action. | ||
| I think we start making a mistake when we take options off the table. | ||
| So I would hope the President keeps that option on the table. | ||
| And to the extent that he has agreed to reverse his mistake on Nord Stream 2, if that is in fact what came out of the discussion today, I would applaud that. | ||
| that. I hope he does it. | ||
| All right. What does military action mean, Senator? | ||
| Well, military action could mean that we stand off with our ships in the Black Sea and we rain destruction on Russian military capability. | ||
| It could mean that. | ||
| It could mean that we participate. | ||
| And I would not rule that out. | ||
| I would not rule out American troops on the ground. | ||
| We don't rule out first use nuclear action. | ||
| We don't think it'll happen, but there's certain things in negotiations, if you're going to be tough, that you don't take off the table. | ||
| And so I think the president should say that everything is on the table. | ||
| And frankly, to the extent that you had Democrats on the show right before me being quoted as saying we need to be tougher, I support that and I appreciate that. | ||
| I think they represent the fear that we have, the realization that we have in the Congress that losing a free, democratic Ukraine to Russian invasion would be a game-changer for How much has this penetrated the psyche of Washington, D.C.? | ||
| Well, here's a sad piece of tape. | ||
| This is Joni Ernst, who's totally affable, nice, Republican, sort of reasonable in most things, from the Midwest. | ||
| Suddenly sounding like a bloodthirsty warmonger, sounding a lot like, actually, Adam Schiff, when she talks about that dastardly Vladimir Putin. | ||
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He needs to say to Vladimir Putin that we are no longer going to allow you to continue with the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. | |
| We need you to know and understand that we will defend Ukraine. | ||
| We will provide them assistance. | ||
| He needs to make that very clear. | ||
| Putin is so bad, we're going to cut off natural gas to Western Europe in retaliation against him in December. | ||
| We're gonna freeze Germany and Luxembourg, and that's gonna teach Vladimir Putin. | ||
| Again, what you just saw there is a child who has no idea what she's talking about, but keeps talking anyway. | ||
| We will defend Ukraine, says Joni Ernst. | ||
| Remember, this is a senator from Iowa. | ||
| So what happens if we don't defend Ukraine, Joni Ernst? | ||
| Will kids in Des Moines grow up to speak Russian? | ||
| No one asked her that question. | ||
| She's never thought about it for a moment. | ||
| They're all just reading from the same talking points, from Adam Schiff to Roger Wicker to Joni Ernst. | ||
| It turns out that foreign lobbying campaigns work pretty well, and that's why the Ukrainians paid for them. | ||
| I think you've got the gist. | ||
| I was on Tim Pool last night going through this shocking... I want to bring in Raheem Kassam, who was there at the beginning of this entire thing and knows what's going on. | ||
| This is insanity, and this is what the Uniparty... I just want to make sure, Roger Wicker of Mississippi, We keep on the table first strike nuclear attack and combat troops in Ukraine. | ||
| And think, I said this on Tim Pool last night, the great Tim Pool Show. | ||
| If they're talking about it, that's a range of alternatives that they're working through over at the Pentagon right now. | ||
| And these are Republicans. | ||
| Raheem Kassam, we got MTG in the studio. | ||
| MTG, we asked her to come over here today to comment and make observations on this insanity. | ||
| Raheem Kassam. | ||
| Yeah, well thanks, Steve. | ||
| Look, I really do fear, and I'll make this very clear to people, what we're talking about here. | ||
| This whole debacle really, in its modern sense, began in 2014. | ||
| I was there when the European Union attempted to bring Ukraine greater into its sphere of influence. | ||
| And of course, NATO, the United States, all of them backing that as well. | ||
| I was in Kiev watching that Madan revolution take place and trying to understand, you know, the both sides, which is what a reporter should do in this scenario. | ||
| Unfortunately, what we're seeing now already is the tail wagging the dog and Western media doing its uttermost to sabre rattle needlessly against Vladimir Putin. | ||
| uh... as the as you say the pentagon and officialdom mean the united states the united kingdom uh... and across the european union kind of gears up for what you heard there from senator wicker effectively talking about active war whether it's boots on the ground at the first of the strike nuclear options in the middle of the black sea and hang on the time of black sea the time for a strike capability in this is the way they put the battlefield in information war Financial Times, lead story, U.S. | ||
| urges Berlin to block Russian gas line in event of Ukraine strike. | ||
| In event of Ukraine strike. | ||
| They are geared up behind the scenes, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| They're rushing to a war. | ||
| We just got out of Afghanistan and Iraq, okay, after 20 years, 10,000 dead, 40,000 wounded, $9 trillion wasted. | ||
| Waste it in the Uniparty, and this is not on the Democrats. | ||
| This is the Uniparty. | ||
| Joni Ernst, Wicker, they ought to be thrown out of the Senate today. | ||
| They ought to be recalled immediately. | ||
| Raheem Kassam. | ||
| Steve, I'm smiling because that is exactly the point I was just about to make, is that if Americans thought Afghanistan was a debacle and took decades and trillions of dollars, then let me tell you this as a matter of fact. | ||
| If you get into a hot war with Russia over Ukraine, you will be there for 50 years and tens of trillions of dollars. | ||
| This is no small altercation you're talking about, and it's not a short altercation you're talking about. | ||
| Now, let me go through some of the news reporting on this this morning, because I think it's fascinating. | ||
| And Tucker was absolutely right about Joni Ernst. | ||
| In fact, there's a phrase that sums up what we're hearing from Wicker and Ernst, and that is, the empty vessel makes the loudest noise. | ||
| And that's what we're hearing right now across the Western media, is the loudest noise. | ||
| But about what? | ||
| All right, let me quote from the New York Times this morning, saying why the US might be on a march to war with Russia. | ||
| Quote, Putin believes that Ukraine, a country of 44 million people that was previously part of the Soviet Union, should be subservient to Russia. | ||
| The two countries share a 1,200 mile border, as well as cultural and linguistic ties, which many Ukrainians think Putin exaggerates. | ||
| That is the summary. | ||
| I mean, if you've heard anything like gibberish before, then you know what this sounds like. | ||
| Putin believes that Ukraine should be subservient to Russia? | ||
| Well, I mean, you know, Americans think Canada should be subservient to America. | ||
| And frankly, the idea that many Ukrainians think Putin exaggerates the two nations links, well, many Ukrainians think that Ukraine belongs to Russia anyway. | ||
| So this is the kind of farcical, hollow foreign policy talking points that are being really quickly pushed out at the moment. | ||
| But you know what's funny is they get it right in the next paragraph. | ||
| It says, why now? | ||
| And the answer, as far as the New York Times says, Foreign aggression often gives political leaders a chance to rally nationalistic support at home, especially as a distraction from domestic problems. | ||
| Now, the New York Times thinks that it's talking about Vladimir Putin. | ||
| In reality, it's talking about Joe Biden. | ||
| Wag the dog. | ||
| Rahim Ghassan, thank you very much. | ||
| Rahim was there, he's been all over this. | ||
| And by the way, this was the EU pushing into Ukraine and wanting to make the Ukraine a member of NATO. | ||
| This would be like Mexico signing a defense pact, an offensive defense pact with China. | ||
| That's the equivalent. | ||
| Wicker should be humiliated and ashamed of himself. | ||
| People in Mississippi should be lighting up his phones right now and Joni Ernst. | ||
| Tucker Carlson said it's like a little child just yammering at the table or something they heard from some crazy people at school. | ||
| Raheem, thank you so much. | ||
| By the way, I know you're going to have podcasts on this. | ||
| How do they get to the podcast? | ||
| So we are actually, the National Pulse is going to turn its attention to this issue almost entirely now because I genuinely fear the worst here of what's coming out of the foreign policy establishments across the West. | ||
| We'll do a podcast on this today. | ||
| I have some insider information from NATO sources on this, on readiness, and how foolish it is to sabre rattle like this. | ||
| I'll talk about it in our podcast today. | ||
| It's at TheNationalPulse.com. | ||
| We're not ready. | ||
| NATO's a joke. | ||
| NATO's a joke. | ||
| They don't put any money into it. | ||
| President Trump's the first guy to get him to step up. | ||
| Raheem, thank you very much. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| This is your party. | ||
| You're a member of that party, of Roger Wicker and Joni Ernst. | ||
| Okay, we just got out of Afghanistan. | ||
| I'm not a member of that party. | ||
| That's the Uniparty, Steve. | ||
| Those people don't represent America, and they do not represent me. | ||
| Anybody that will align themselves behind the failed leadership of President Joe Biden, who abandoned Americans in Afghanistan, armed the Islamic terrorist Taliban leaders, of this, this horrific, horrific belief and ideology in Afghanistan killed 13 military members. | ||
| And now they're going to line up behind Joe Biden because his polls just fall every single week, lower and lower and lower. | ||
| Those are not members of my party. | ||
| No, I'm not part of the Uniparty. | ||
| I don't serve the military industrial complex. | ||
| I'm not interested in making sure that the small arms dealers and their contracts keep getting their paychecks. | ||
| I'm not interested in carrying on into forever and ever and ever non-ending wars. | ||
| And I sure as hell am not interested in a nuclear war with Russia. | ||
| These people are insane. | ||
| What you're seeing right there is you are seeing the swamp wrap their arms around Joe Biden and reject people like me, America First members of Congress, that fought our way in and are representing the American people because we care about the people. | ||
| But those people right there, Senator Roger Wicker, who wants to talk about a first strike and troops on the ground in Russia, He's the very guy that is also interested in cutting off the Russian pipeline, going into winter time, that's going to hurt people. | ||
| These are also the same people that are not fighting for our America First energy that's going to cause poverty all over America, that's causing inflation skyrocketing. | ||
| These people in Washington, the ones that you heard talking on that clip, They don't care about people. | ||
| They care about power. | ||
| Let's talk about one thing. | ||
| Biden is doing this because his poll numbers, Wall Street Journal, his story. | ||
| But overnight, understand what they did, the United Party did. | ||
| They're trying to bail him out on a wag the dog, letting him be big war chief, right? | ||
| And at the same time, they approved, they approved, they approved, they did this gimmick. | ||
| It's a gimmick. | ||
| Mitch McConnell, it's a gimmick to raise the debt ceiling $2.5 trillion and kick it past the midterms. | ||
| Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| Yeah of course they want to raise the debt ceiling. | ||
| They have Biden on the mat and they're lifting him up with a wag the dog war scenario at the same time giving two and a half trillion dollars for one year but it kicking past the midterms. | ||
| Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| Absolutely Mitch McConnell couldn't help Joe Biden any more than the entire DCCC. | ||
| I mean if you're going to raise the debt ceiling you are literally Handing them the Build Back Better, Green New Deal, America Last policy that will forever change the country. | ||
| Why are Republicans doing this? | ||
| Steve, I can't even answer for them at this point. | ||
| I go back and forth. | ||
| I go, are they stupid? | ||
| I can't imagine that they're stupid. | ||
| Are they sold out? | ||
| If so, is it even worth it? | ||
| Are they even really Republicans? | ||
| And I don't think so, because Republicans shouldn't be doing this. | ||
| Why? | ||
| I can't even answer it, Steve. | ||
| It makes no sense to me. | ||
| And it doesn't make sense to Republican voters. | ||
| And it doesn't make sense to conservative Americans that love our country, but they don't vote because people like that don't give them anything to vote for. | ||
| You voted against this, came to the House last night, you voted against it. | ||
| Did anybody explain to you what Mitch McConnell is trying to accomplish? | ||
| Did they explain to you why they're allowing this gimmick to take place to actually give Biden two and a half trillion dollars to try to implement all this? | ||
| Well, the big focus mostly yesterday was the NDAA. | ||
| They negotiated things out, and I will say I am happy that they did get very damaging bad things out of there, like drafting our daughters. | ||
| They got that out. | ||
| They got out the Office of Extremism. | ||
| That was terrifying. | ||
| They got out the red flag laws. | ||
| I mean, those are big wins that I actually was like, that is great. | ||
| But I couldn't vote for the NDAA, and I'll tell you why. | ||
| It came down to It did not block the vaccine mandates for the military. | ||
| And there's over 250,000 military members that are not vaccinated. | ||
| And believe me, it's not because they haven't had the opportunity. | ||
| It's because they don't want to be. | ||
| And then the other reason why I couldn't vote for it is I don't believe in transgender surgeries in our military. | ||
| I think in taxpayers and taxpayers paying for it. | ||
| Oh, no, no, absolutely not. | ||
| An NDAA should fund a fighting, killing military force. | ||
| That is what the military is for, to defend our national security, to defend our country. | ||
| But it's not to fund transgender surgeries. | ||
| It's not to fund climate-woke, crazy Green New Deal beliefs where they want to talk about lowering carbon emissions in the military. | ||
| I mean, what do we need? | ||
| Zero-carbon emission tanks? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| We need to be concerned about protecting our country. | ||
| Because you want to protect the environment while you've got combat troops for 50 years in the Ukraine. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because these people in charge here, they think that climate change and extreme weather is more dangerous than nuclear China. | ||
| It's an extension of the case. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| MSNBC this morning had a panel with David Brooks, Katie Kaye from the BBC, David Brooks from the New York Times and Atlantic Magazine, Mika and Joe. | ||
| And they crowned our guest, Marjorie Taylor Greene, as really one of the driving leaders, if not the driving leader in the Republican Party. | ||
| We're going to get back to it next. | ||
| MSNBC will join us on the other side in the war room. | ||
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War room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The medium in which they're getting their moment of fame, social media, is a medium that rewards extremism. | ||
| Of course they're going to be, whether it's on the left or on the right, they're going to be more extreme. | ||
| And you end up with somebody like Matt Gaetz saying, quite bluntly, the future of the Republican Party is Jim Jordan. | ||
| Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| It's Gosar. | ||
| It's Matt Gaetz. | ||
| It's not the other people who are actually getting the work done. | ||
| And social media is going to fuel this because it gives them their ability. | ||
| They now have their own ability. | ||
| They can go direct to their publics and build their publics in a way that they couldn't Five, ten years ago. | ||
| Right. | ||
| David, you have a new column in The Atlantic titled, I Remember Conservatism, in which you explore whether former President Donald Trump has redefined conservatism in the United States. | ||
| Yeah, and so you write in part this, today what passes for the worldview of the right is a set of resentful animosities, a partisan attachment to Donald Trump, a sort of mental brutalism. | ||
| I wish I could say that what Trump represents has nothing to do with conservatism. | ||
| Rightly understood. | ||
| In the Trumpian world, disputes are settled by raw power and intimidation. | ||
| Trumpism looks at the tender sentiments of sympathy as weakness. | ||
| Might makes right. | ||
| Trumpian republicanism plunders, degrades, and erodes institutions for the sake of personal aggrandizement. | ||
| Because Trumpians live in a state of perpetual war, they need to continually invent existential foes, critical race theory, non-gendered bathrooms, out-of-control immigration. | ||
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I thought capitalism worked in the 80s and I think what Reagan did was right, but then it developed these structural flaws where it was leaving so many people behind. | |
| Right. | ||
| And then the final and a big thing, this won't make progressives happy, but basically you had highly educated people go to highly educated schools, produce, marry each other, produce highly educated kids. | ||
| They moved to New York, San Francisco, DC. | ||
| They came to control the media, the culture, the business sector, the big tech, and all the people were left out of this inherited meritocracy, this Brahmin class we now have. | ||
| So screw those people. | ||
| And that's a lot of the resentment that drives the right right now. | ||
| Okay, but David Brooks pulls his punches That, by the way, he lifts. | ||
| David, come on, dude. | ||
| If you're going to take Charles Murray's thesis of the bell curve, you got to give him credit. | ||
| Don't think it's your idea. | ||
| That's that's directly from Charles Murray. | ||
| The bell curve from back in the 1990s. | ||
| What you missed, David. | ||
| Was the policies. | ||
| The resentment is not about the people. | ||
| We could care less about that, although the globalists are a bunch of soy boys. | ||
| It's the policies. | ||
| We've rejected categorically, but I got to turn to Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| You're the villainous here. | ||
| You're Cruella de Vil, right? | ||
| You're the problem because it's mental brutalism. | ||
| It's raw power. | ||
| You're a part of the Trump cult. | ||
| The old controlled opposition of tax cuts and deregulation, the nice Republicans, the country club Republicans that they could have, that had the blue blazers and the khaki pants and the legions, the loafers, right, the legions. | ||
| That's what these guys want. | ||
| They want the David Brookses of the world, the George Wills, the guys with the wire-rimmed glasses. | ||
| They're going to sit there and be polite and quote Edmund Burke. | ||
| Well, I don't know who David Brooks is, and I really could care less, and most people don't care either, but he doesn't get to define Trumpism. | ||
| As a matter of fact, he's missed the message altogether, and he doesn't even get to define what conservatives believe. | ||
| All they want to talk about is things they know nothing about, and it's more lies, and it's more attacks, and it's more just fake news. | ||
| Here's the real message they need to understand. | ||
| I represent the American people. | ||
| These are the same people that they look down on. | ||
| These are the same people that they forget about. | ||
| These are the same people they can't even relate to. | ||
| Because they're so stuck up, because they're so highly educated, and because they think they're so much better than everyone. | ||
| So, they don't really matter, Steve. | ||
| They honestly don't matter. | ||
| It's the American people that matter, and I'm happy to be the face of the American people, and I'm happy to continue to come up to Washington, D.C. | ||
| And tell this town and the people here exactly how real people feel. | ||
| Because it's the real people, it's the real American people that pay the taxes in this country. | ||
| And it's the real people all over the country that their voices and their opinions matter. | ||
| And they're sick and tired and fed up with the elites. | ||
| And they're sick and tired and fed up of being the forgotten man and woman who the country club Republicans, with their beautiful preppy sweater vest, have failed because it's those soft, weak Republicans that held hands with Democrats for decades and decades, sold our country out with NAFTA, sent all of our jobs overseas, caused our factories in small towns to get shut down, caused alcoholism, drug abuse, depression, | ||
| Failed marriages and caused traditional families to fall apart and small towns to crumble. | ||
| So I could care less whoever David Brooks says and stupid Morning Joe and MSNBC and everyone else that thinks they know better and sit around and think takes and come up with nothing but BS that fails and doesn't work. | ||
| Because I came here to fix it and I'm bringing the American people with me. | ||
| Okay, I got it and I understand what they're trying to do to target you, but how are you going to fix it? | ||
| When in the last 24 hours, you have a senator on the Armed Services Committee from the great state of Mississippi, and there couldn't be a more Trump state than Mississippi, he's sitting there saying, we should put combat troops into Ukraine, we should back Joe Biden's wag the dog, we should put combat troops, and we should have on the table first-strike nuclear capability, in the same night that Mitch McConnell bailed out Joe Biden for $2.5 trillion, he says, oh, we don't want to have the Republicans' hands on it. | ||
| His hands are all over it. | ||
| It's his deal to get and actually have the audacity to kick it past the midterm elections. | ||
| So overnight, they bail out Biden twice. | ||
| One, they're going to give him unlimited war powers. | ||
| And number two, they're going to bail him out with $2.5 trillion. | ||
| So if you represent the Republican Party, how are you going to clean out the Republican Party, the rat's nest it's become? | ||
| I'm going to use every single bit of my energy to organize the American people so they absolutely understand who their enemies are. | ||
| And if their enemies have an R in front of their name, then that's fine. | ||
| If their enemies have a D in front of their name, that is absolutely fine. | ||
| But you cannot stop the American people. | ||
| You cannot stop them. | ||
| And the American people don't even have to be violent to take these people down. | ||
| All they have to do is get organized with the proper information and they can take them out in elections and they can take them down by making sure that none of these people get any money of donations and they can continue to take down the fake news media with you see being in your show and many others that are creating good content. | ||
| They say they specifically say Katie K of BBC in that piece specifically says you've made up all these things critical race theory the vaccine mandates that you've created all these all these false narratives right to stir people up. | ||
| What do you have to say about that? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| We haven't made anything up. | ||
| We've told the truth. | ||
| We've absolutely told the truth, and we're going to continue to tell the truth. | ||
| And let me tell you something. | ||
| This is going to be a long-term war in our country. | ||
| And it doesn't have to be a bloody war, but it is a war that we have to continue to fight. | ||
| And the American people are in it, and their eyes are open, and more people are waking up to it, and they are absolutely disgusted and done with what has happened in this town. | ||
| And the last thing they want is a first-strike nuclear attack. | ||
| We don't want to go to war with Russia. | ||
| There's no need for it. | ||
| We want our Congress, we want our government to focus on the American people and do what's right for our country. | ||
| We want to be energy independent. | ||
| We want to focus on things that help our people get jobs and make money. | ||
| We want to focus on policies and issues that help our forgotten men and women and their children. | ||
| What we can do, the American people can rally together and I am all in to make sure that we do just that. | ||
| Because I don't care about Morning Joe, and they can put my face, and Matt Gaetz's face, and other proud, brave conservatives like Louie Gohmert, Paul Gosar, and the real fighters here in Congress, and they can put our face on all their Democrat attack ads all they want to, but all it's going to do is show exactly who the people are that are fighting for them, and we will never stop doing it. | ||
| We don't have time to play it today, but we're going to have you back about this report you did. | ||
| So can you talk about it? | ||
| We don't have time to play the clip. | ||
| Talk about the report that you and Gates and others are doing about the jail and the political prisoners. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| For a woman that doesn't have committees, I was able to produce a report to inform... I don't think stripping you was a... By the way, talking about doing a Boebert, I think stripping you is something they... I think it's something they wish they hadn't done. | ||
| They unleashed, they sowed the wind to unleash the whirlwind. | ||
| Yeah, but they did it, so they get it. | ||
| Your report's amazing. | ||
| Talk to us about it. | ||
| You've got about a minute and a half. | ||
| What's your report? | ||
| The report, I encourage everyone, please read the entire thing. | ||
| Can we get it up in Denver and put it up on the screen? | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Yes, the report is extremely important. | ||
| It's called Unusually Cruel, and we'll outline every single detail of our over three-hour visit. | ||
| Why have you taken this on as a cause? | ||
| Everything else you got on your plate, you went down to the prison. | ||
| Why has Marjorie Taylor Greene, with everything else you've got going on, why are you putting this on your shoulders? | ||
| I'm sick and tired of the injustice in America, and this crosses political boundaries. | ||
| What we're seeing happen to the January 6th defendants should never happen to anyone. | ||
| Our justice system is failing, our FBI and DOJ has been weaponized, and then we have a fake committee called the January 6th Committee the Speaker of the House is leading, and she is attacking Republicans, going after people, telling telecommunications companies, banks that they have to send people's private information to them for absolutely no reason. | ||
| None of the people that are being targeted by the January 6th Committee did anything to plan the riot at the Capitol. | ||
| And then the people that are being persecuted and being treated as political prisoners are victims of this entire political witch hunt that the Democrats are waging against President Trump and conservative Republicans all over America. | ||
| And I'm tired of it. | ||
| And I don't care about sitting in a committee room or sitting there on Zoom talking back and forth in some room We're going to play these clips, we've got to get you back on this. | ||
| Okay, real quickly, how do people not just get you on social media, how do they get to your pack? | ||
| Oh, oh, definitely. | ||
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| I need your support, too, because obviously, you see, the radical left has decided I'm the face that they need to take down. | ||
| MSNBC, The New York Times, The Atlantic Magazine has targeted Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| They're going full Olinsky. | ||
| Full Olinsky. | ||
| They're going to start ratcheting it up now. | ||
| So if you're going to have her back, now's the time to go to the ramparts. | ||
| Okay, Congressman Greene, always an honor. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to go to the great state of Wyoming next to have a pointed discussion with what's happening out there with those great folks next in The War Room. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Out here, we were raised with the code of the West. | ||
| We still live by it today. | ||
| In the Old West, when a cowboy rode for the brand, it meant they were loyal to their outfit, to the person who hired them, to the one who paid them. | ||
| They gave their promise to protect the brand and would fight for it as though it were their own. | ||
| In Wyoming, we know that someone who rides for the brand is loyal. | ||
| That loyalty is about honor, commitment, and keeping your word. | ||
| Liz Cheney doesn't know what riding for the brand means. | ||
| We sent her to D.C. | ||
| to be loyal to the outfit that hired her. | ||
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Be loyal to Wyoming and our values. | |
| Instead of fighting for us, she's fighting against President Trump. | ||
| She betrayed us. | ||
| She betrayed our values. | ||
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She betrayed the brand. | |
| Harriet and I grew up together on our family ranch with the rest of our brothers and sisters. | ||
| Our family has been in Wyoming since before statehood. | ||
| Wyoming is in our DNA. | ||
| Harriet has spent her career fighting for us against unelected federal bureaucrats trying to change our way of life. | ||
| She beat them when they tried to take control of our irrigation and water rights. | ||
| She beat them when they tried to force our livestock producers to use RFID ear tags and register every ranch with the federal government. | ||
| When the Forest Service tried to block access to 3.2 million acres of national forest lands in Wyoming, she fought back, and she forced the federal government to turn over management of our gray wolf population to the state of Wyoming. | ||
| I know she'll protect us and fight for us because she already has. | ||
| Right now, the most important job Republicans have in Washington, D.C., is to stop Nancy Pelosi and the Radical Democrats from destroying our country. | ||
| I'm Harriet Hageman, and I know what it means to ride for the brand. | ||
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Welcome back to the war room. | |
| It is Wednesday, the 8th of December, the year of our Lord 2021 now with over 120 million downloads on the podcast. | ||
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| Quite a day. | ||
| We started off with Marjorie Taylor Greene, Raheem Kassam about this outrage Overnight, the Republican Party bails out Joe Biden, okay? | ||
| You got Roger Wicker, who's on the Armed Services Committee, sitting on the Armed Services Committee, on Neil Cavuto yesterday talking about Combat troops in Ukraine and the possibility of first strike nuclear weapons. | ||
| You got Joni Ernst yammering around. | ||
| This is all wag the dog for Joe Biden. | ||
| Then worse, you got Mitch McConnell overnight bailing out with a gimmick. | ||
| These are not serious people bailing out with a gimmick to allow $2.5 trillion of debt to be added. | ||
| The debt's in. | ||
| We have all the leverage. | ||
| The deplorables have all the leverage. | ||
| Let them off the hook. | ||
| 2.5 trillion dollars and kicked it past 22. | ||
| And you even got Lindsey Graham and all the other guys that normally support Mitch McConnell saying this is an outrage. | ||
| The Biden administration, the Wall Street Journal polling yesterday, the worst in presidential history since James Buchanan. | ||
| OK, 26 percent of the country thinks the nation's on the right track. | ||
| That is, I think, seven points lower than Richard Nixon when he walked out to the helicopter to take off back in when he left the White House, resigned the presidency. | ||
| This is where the Biden administration is a complete and total implosion. | ||
| In the battle for the midterm elections, there will not be a tougher race than in the great state of Wyoming. | ||
| It's going to come down to Liz Cheney versus Harriet Hageman. | ||
| She joins us now in the War Room. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I think the question, by the way, incredibly powerful, Ed, and your team, we know that the guys around you, you have a group of fighters, but the Code of the West, Is about fighting and I think people's question because you're just now coming on to and this is going to be not just a national race. | ||
| This is going to be a global race because of what the Cheney family's done is the warmongers. | ||
| They are and now you got the Ukraine situation right here, which I know is a neoconscious can be all over the question people have I think as they get to know you. | ||
| Are you tough enough to take on and defeat Liz Cheney? | ||
| Because Liz Cheney detests me. | ||
| She detests the show. | ||
| I'm not a big fan of hers. | ||
| But I do acknowledge that she's a tough hombre and she's a fighter. | ||
| So do you have the fight in you from now until Election Day to defeat Liz Cheney? | ||
| I think the better question is does she have the fight in her to defeat me? | ||
| I'm a fighter and Liz Cheney never has had to be. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| Has it been given to her? | ||
| Everything's been given to her. | ||
| Do you think Liz Cheney would be where she is right now if she didn't have the Cheney last name? | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Shots fired! | ||
| Are you telling me if her name was Liz Smith she would not be where she is? | ||
| She doesn't have the native talent and ability? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| You're firing for effect right off the bat. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| I wasn't expecting that. | ||
| Well, you asked me if I was tough enough to take her on and the reality is that I am. | ||
| I grew up in a very humble household. | ||
| I grew up having to scrap for everything that we had. | ||
| We had six children and we took in over 40 foster children when I was growing up. | ||
| Your parents did? | ||
| My parents did. | ||
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Why? | |
| Because that's what you do in your community. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| You take care of your fellow man. | ||
| Tell us about where you're from in Wyoming. | ||
| What's it like and how did it help form you? | ||
| I grew up on a ranch outside of Fort Laramie, Wyoming. | ||
| It's a little tiny town. | ||
| We didn't have much. | ||
| I grew up in a house on the Cheyenne to Deadwood stage trail. | ||
| We didn't have a telephone. | ||
| We were pretty isolated. | ||
| You did not have a telephone? | ||
| Not when I was growing up, no. | ||
| We were pretty isolated. | ||
| We were tough because when we were growing up, we had to move cows, fix fence, do everything on that ranch. | ||
| We were the hired hands. | ||
| That's old school. | ||
| It is old school. | ||
| So you started working as a rancher, you started working as a contributor to the family at what age? | ||
| Before I was four. | ||
| We all started learning to drive when we were four years old so we could help feed. | ||
| And again, we were fixing a fence, we were moving cows, we were pulling wells, we were doing everything on that ranch that needed to be done. | ||
| One of the things that our parents taught us was that we were responsible for ourselves. | ||
| We were very isolated out there and if something had happened, it was going to be a difficult time getting any one of us to town to the hospital. | ||
| And so they taught us from a very young age that we had to keep ourselves alive. | ||
| And the fact is that that's why I say I'm a scrapper and she's not. | ||
| She was born with a silver spoon in her mouth. | ||
| She comes from Northern Virginia, right? | ||
| I mean, she was a cheerleader over at the high schools here. | ||
| So she does not really have Wyoming in her blood? | ||
| No, she didn't. | ||
| She came back in 2012. | ||
| She came to Wyoming in 2012, bought a house because she was going to run for U.S. | ||
| Senate. | ||
| And that's what she's done. | ||
| She ran for Senate, then she dropped out of that race. | ||
| And then in 2016, when the House race opened up, she ran for Congress at that time. | ||
| But Liz Cheney really has accomplished very little in her life other than be Liz Cheney. | ||
| Tell me what she's done. | ||
| Tell me what she's done in terms of fighting the battles that I fought. | ||
| What that advertisement talks about is the lawsuits that I fought against the federal government by myself in my law firm. | ||
| That's what I do. | ||
| I've taken on the EPA. | ||
| I've taken on the U.S. | ||
| Fish and Wildlife Service. | ||
| I've taken on the USDA. | ||
| So you've gone against long odds before? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Have you ever gone against an apparatus though that is this vicious because the Chinese play hardball? | ||
| So does the federal government. | ||
| So does the EPA. | ||
| And so I would say absolutely. | ||
| They play to win. | ||
| One of the things about going up against, say, for example, the EPA, is they have unlimited resources. | ||
| And when they're going out and doing a test case, for example, trying to take over irrigation in northern Wyoming, they're going to throw everything that they have at it to do that. | ||
| What I think people don't understand is given the support the Wyoming folks in Wyoming have from President Trump, and as important Trumpism, Why is she so obsessed, not simply with President Trump, she's also obsessed with this movement of what we stand for. | ||
| Why, coming from Wyoming, or representing Wyoming, what is in back of her obsession? | ||
| You know, I think it's in part because it's contrary to everything that she's worked for. | ||
| When you look at Liz Cheney's history, she really is a swamp. | ||
| She's a swamp creature. | ||
| She is a creature of Washington, D.C. | ||
| and Northern Virginia. | ||
| And what she's done and what the reason that she's sitting in that seat right now is because, again, her last name is Cheney. | ||
| It's not because of any individual accomplishments that she has. | ||
| So she looks at this, and your introduction was about the fact that the Republicans have sold us out in terms of some of these issues dealing with the Joe Biden administration. | ||
| The Republicans and Democrats have been running Washington, D.C. | ||
| for an awful long time and doing it together. | ||
| And they've been doing it in such a way that it benefits individual people, but it doesn't necessarily benefit the American people. | ||
| From that ranch that you were raised on, what would they tell you to do when you get to Washington? | ||
| To fight back against the absolute extreme government overreach. | ||
| The one thing that we have got to do is we've got to find a way to take power out of Washington DC and return it to the states where it belongs. | ||
| We have federalized so much of our lives. | ||
| We have federalized almost every aspect of anything. | ||
| And you see that in Wyoming where they come after the land. | ||
| Well, absolutely. | ||
| 48% of our surface estate is owned by the federal government. | ||
| And I think that the federal government would like to take over the other 52%. | ||
| That's for example, is Joe Biden's 30 by 30 land grab. | ||
| So what you have is you have a government that wants to turn the interior West into a play into a park, a national park for for other people to come and enjoy. | ||
| They've affected and they're trying to destroy our trucking industry, the Build Back Better bill or whatever you want to call it, it goes after our cattle industry. | ||
| They've already been trying to destroy our oil and gas industry and our coal industries. | ||
| So we are absolutely a direct target of this administration and a direct target of the bureaucrats in Washington, D.C. | ||
| People who don't know anything about Wyoming want to control and dictate what we do in Wyoming. | ||
| Recently, the whole issue about the 400M that the House passed for the vaccine database. | ||
| Liz Cheney wants to come out and say that I'm misrepresenting what that is about. | ||
| I'm not misrepresenting anything. | ||
| What that reflects and what that represents is the federal government. | ||
| Deciding that they're going to dictate and tell us what we need to do in terms of our vaccine status. | ||
| It's absolutely dystopian and the idea that Republicans would support that and fund it is really rather shocking to me. | ||
| It isn't the idea of whether a 400 million was enough or it should have been more or should have been less. | ||
| The point is, why do we have a federal vaccine database? | ||
| Why do we have Republicans in Washington, D.C., after everything that we've been through in the last two years, saying that they believe that the federal government, the CDC, the NIH, and those organizations should know exactly what my vaccine status is? | ||
| Again, it's just complete and total federal overreach. | ||
| What are people we go around the state? | ||
| We got a couple of us a segment. | ||
| We'd like to ask you to stay over for a few minutes in the next segment. | ||
| As you go around the state right now, what are you hearing from the great folks in Wyoming that overwhelmingly supported President Trump and did send Lindsey Cheney back to back to Washington? | ||
| What are they telling you? | ||
| We have to defeat Liz Cheney. | ||
| We sent her to Washington, D.C. | ||
| to be an ally of Donald Trump, and she's turned into a mortal enemy of not only Donald Trump, but the America First agenda. | ||
| So everything that he stood for, she's fighting against right now, because she's fighting against him. | ||
| It's very important to understand that Wyoming only has one representative, and we have to make it count. | ||
| It's like a senator out there. | ||
| You're representing the entire state. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And when it counted, we couldn't count on her. | ||
| The way that I describe it is that at this point, we need all hands on deck to stop the radical Democrats from destroying our country, destroying our constitutional republic. | ||
| And not only has Liz Cheney jumped ship, she dog paddled to the other side and she's shooting back at us. | ||
| And everybody in Wyoming feels that way. | ||
| Do people understand that she's actually working as an active part of the Democratic Party right now? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| The people in Wyoming are very well informed. | ||
| What's interesting about that is I don't think Liz Cheney realizes it. | ||
| So, for example, we get her weekly newsletters or every two weeks she sends out a newsletter. | ||
| What is the only thing Liz Cheney is doing right now? | ||
| The only thing she's doing is working on the January 6th Commission. | ||
| Yet in her weekly newspaper she doesn't talk about it at all. | ||
| What does that tell you? | ||
| It never comes up when she goes to Wyoming. | ||
| Okay, let's take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return with Harriet Hageman who's running in this primary out in Wyoming for the Republican nomination for the United States Congress for the House of Representatives. | ||
| It will be a, not just a national election, this is going to be front page as it already is in the Guardian, Times of London, Financial Times of London, all of it. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
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| We've got so much to go in the second hour. | ||
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| We took more time because Harriet Hageman is so impressive. | ||
| Okay, what folks don't, and I understand we have a poll. | ||
| You're up by 20 points in the poll, but Liz Cheney is not actually running for a seat in Congress. | ||
| She understands you're a formidable competitor and you're going to throw down. | ||
| It's going to be tough. | ||
| What I don't know if folks in Wyoming fully understand is she's in this town every night doing a fundraiser with lobbyists. | ||
| She is. | ||
| With lobbyists, okay? | ||
| With lobbyists. | ||
| And she's raised a ton of money. | ||
| And so and she's going to have a lot of money and she's going to raise a lot more. | ||
| What's important is that's not coming from Wyoming. | ||
| It's coming from Northern Virginia. | ||
| She's she's running on behalf of the military industrial complex. | ||
| They have a lot of money and they want to make sure that she's still in that seat. | ||
| She's running for 2024 to she's going to be she's going to try to compete for Trump for the nomination. | ||
| Not that she's going to win but she's setting herself up now with this money in this race. | ||
| This is why it's just not a Wyoming race. | ||
| It's going to be a national race and an international race. | ||
| She's going to use lobbyist money, the same lobbyists that are driving people to get into Ukraine. | ||
| Look, they're setting it up in the Financial Times, the headline, US urges Berlin to block Russian gas line and event. | ||
| Of Ukrainian strike, of Ukraine strike. | ||
| The media is setting up, you look at all the newspapers today, they're setting up this mentality of going to war in the Ukraine. | ||
| This is what Liz Cheney is. | ||
| She's raised money from all these people. | ||
| She's teeing herself up to be, so the media is going to love her because she's going to be anti-Trump. | ||
| How are you, you're 20 points up now. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But she's going to, she's going to have unlimited resources. | ||
| How are you and the folks in Wyoming going to combat that? | ||
| Well, coming on to programs like this and talking to the American people about what I stand for and what she stands for and contrasting the two. | ||
| If people want to learn more about me, they can go to HegemanForWyoming.com. | ||
| There's a lot of information there and there's an opportunity to donate as well. | ||
| But here's the thing, Liz Cheney doesn't come back to Wyoming. | ||
| If she does, she comes back and she meets with two or three people at a time. | ||
| Liz Cheney is persona non grata in Wyoming and for the very reasons you're talking about. | ||
| Liz Cheney sold out Wyoming a long time ago. | ||
| She's not even on the Natural Resource Committee. | ||
| She's on the Armed Services Committee. | ||
| The Armed Services Committee benefits Washington, D.C. | ||
| and Northern Virginia, but it doesn't do diddly for the state of Wyoming. | ||
| The Natural Resource Committee, this is one of the first times in our history we don't have anybody on that all-important committee. | ||
| That tells you where her priorities are. | ||
| Again, I'm going to say what I said at the beginning. | ||
| Liz Cheney bought a house in Wyoming in 2012 because she didn't think that she could win in Virginia. | ||
| She thought she could win in Wyoming based upon her name, not because she's ever accomplished anything for the state of Wyoming, but she came back and she blew a lot of smoke. | ||
| And frankly, she convinced a lot of people. | ||
| She had almost 70% of the vote last November. | ||
| But there's a lot that's been exposed in the last year, and the exposure of Liz Cheney I think kind of exposes the establishment Republicans in Washington D.C. | ||
| who have made a lot of money and gained a lot of power by doing exactly what Liz Cheney has done. | ||
| And you're saying your confidence that came from you from that little ranch outside of Fort Laramie, Wyoming, that confidence that you've had since a little girl, And the toughness is tougher than Liz Cheney who's had everything handed to her. | ||
| And that's going to be the deciding factor. | ||
| When you say, Code of the West, you're basically saying, hey, I'm a fighter. | ||
| Because Matt Gaetz was here the other day. | ||
| What people are looking for first and primary is somebody that's not going to back down, that's going to fight. | ||
| Because this town right now is out of control. | ||
| That's absolutely correct, but I've been doing that most of my professional career. | ||
| Look at my history. | ||
| I've been practicing law for almost 33 years. | ||
| I've been a trial attorney during much of that time. | ||
| Tell me one trial that Liz Cheney's ever taken on. | ||
| Tell me one battle she's ever taken on against the federal government. | ||
| She hasn't. | ||
| She's part of the federal government. | ||
| Tell me what she's done to try to take power away from the bureaucrats. | ||
| She hasn't. | ||
| When she was running an agency, she expanded it and she increased the budget for the work that she was doing. | ||
| The fact is, she is part of the D.C. | ||
| establishment that has put us $30 trillion in debt, created over 400 agencies to take away our constitutional rights and limit our liberty and freedom, and all she's done is she sat in Congress now for the last six years Accomplished very little for Wyoming, but she's accomplished an awful lot for herself and her buddies. | ||
| Because she's raised a ton of money, she's going to run against Trump in 2024. | ||
| She's going to use 2022 as the launching pad. | ||
| Real quickly, once again, how do people get you on social media and how do they get to your campaign if they're so interested to find out more about you? | ||
| Hegeman for Wyoming.com. | ||
| We released our first advertisement today. | ||
| You played it at the top of our discussion. | ||
| I'm very excited about that. | ||
| That's my family. | ||
| That's the family ranch that I grew up on. | ||
| Those are my nephews. | ||
| Those are our horses. | ||
| That's what I stand for. | ||
| I stand for freedom. | ||
| I stand for liberty. | ||
| I stand for the Constitution. | ||
| I stand for property rights. | ||
| And I stand against the absolute And one more time, how do people get to your website? | ||
| the federal government and I stand for states' rights. | ||
| I stand for what America is supposed to be. | ||
| I don't stand for the special interests. | ||
| And one more time, how do people get to your website? | ||
| HegemanforWyoming.com. | ||
| Harriet, thank you for joining us. | ||
| By the way, I love your first answer. | ||
| Hey, dude, the real question is, is she tough enough to take me on? | ||
| She's not. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Harriet Hageman, we're going to see a lot of you, I'm sure, in the coming year. | ||
| You're in for a tough one. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| They don't play by the Marquis of Queensbury's rules, as I'm sure you're about to find out, but you seem pretty tough. | ||
| That ranch, I think your folks did a pretty good job. | ||
| Yes, thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much, Harriet Hageman. | ||
| We've got a jam-packed second hour. | ||
| We've got Brandon Tatum joining us from L.A. | ||
| about the police situation out there. | ||
| We've got Zutty Jasser, an old friend, is going to sit here and talk about some of the Biden nominees that are up to be confirmed in the United States Senate. | ||
| It's going to blow your head off. | ||
| OK, we've got Russ Vought to talk about this $2.5 trillion debacle, the pass we just gave Joe Biden, this corrupt, illegitimate regime. | ||
| Outrageous. | ||
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