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Episode 1,294 – Americans Must Demand ‘No’ To Over SpendingEpisode 1,294 – Americans Must Demand ‘No’ To Over Spending
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The virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, and the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
Well, it may not be by the end of the week.
I hope it's by the end of the week.
But as long as we're still alive, we got three things to do.
the debt ceiling, continued resolution, and the two pieces of legislation. If we do that, the country's going to be a great state. Thank you.
Okay, they were just right there.
steve bannon
We nailed Joe Biden.
You're in the War Room, Monday, 27 September, Year of Our Lord 2021.
In-studio co-host is Boris Epstein, now with almost 22 million downloads on the podcast.
We're going to reach across over 100 million before we get, before our second anniversary.
And of course, We're now the number one rated, we have been on and off, but number one rated Apple podcast.
And remember, the podcast is just a small part of the overall audience because I want to welcome everybody.
Okay.
A couple of weeks ago, nobody was talking about this.
Now, Joe Biden, that's all he's talking about.
So he's got three things.
Actually, it's four.
Debt ceiling, continued resolution, two pieces of legislation that we have blown up because they don't have the votes and they don't have the money.
Government shuts down at midnight, what is it, on Thursday, 30th September at midnight.
Gotta have funding, gotta have new funding, new appropriations don't have it, so they want to do this three-card money, this voodoo called continued resolution to kick it to December to get everybody's eye off the ball.
That also includes all kind of stuff like six billion dollars for Afghan refugees, of which only three percent are the special immigrant visas of people that work with us in Afghanistan.
They've got all kind of other junk in there.
And they got feckless Republicans working with them.
The debt ceiling, everybody's hanging tough.
No, no increase to the debt ceiling.
So everything else is meaningless since they have to have increase in the debt ceiling.
They're lying about the infrastructure bill and the $3.5 trillion, which is now $4.3 trillion.
They're actually running around town saying, we have a framework to pay for it all.
It's absurd on the face of it.
They don't know if they're coming or going.
If you read the buried leads and all these stories on the Hill, Uh, you know, Politico and other places and talk to people on Capitol Hill.
There's really no negotiations going on.
They're in absolute panic mode.
Why?
Because we jammed up the process and we're proud that we jammed up the process.
Because you've got to make the case.
First of all, they have to make a very simple case.
How do you finance the U.S.
government going forward when right now on your plan by the Congressional Budget Office, you have $1 trillion, $1.5 trillion every year Forget the madness of the Green New Deal infrastructure plan.
Forget the madness of the 3.5 trillion dollar wish list.
Forget all that.
You don't have a plan to how you're, except just printing money, which is really going on to the deplorable's back of how you're going to finance the ongoing government.
You just no plan there.
And the debt ceiling.
They say, oh, the be socially responsible.
Here's what's irresponsible to continue to do this over and over and over again.
When somebody comes forward, he can make a plan.
Joe Biden.
Where's Joe Biden?
Has Joe Biden explained any of this?
Has Joe Biden come forward?
Or Janet Yellen?
Has the Secretary of Treasury come forward and say, how are you going to do this?
Other than, oh, if you don't do the debt ceiling, it's going to collapse.
The world's going to collapse.
Well, the world's going to collapse if you just increase the debt ceiling.
So let's let's have the conversation now.
Let's what we call Lance the Boyle.
This is in hardball negotiations in Wall Street and the This is what's so beautiful about this.
The deplorable's in the driver's seat.
How does it feel to have some power?
That's why you gotta join.
Go join.
Become a precinct committeeman.
We had Steve Stern and the team on from Broward County today.
Record number of people showing up tonight in Broward County that have all signed up to be precinct committeeman.
Next time you call Capitol, he'll say, hey, I'm a precinct committeeman.
I'm calling in from South Dakota.
They take your call and you put them on blast.
I want everybody to go to Precinct Strategy.
Now is the time to come in power.
It doesn't cost you a penny.
It's going to take some time.
It's going to take some commitment.
But now is the time to put down the channel changer.
Don't passively listen to talk radio.
Don't passively listen to political TV, to cable TV news.
Become active.
Because right now, you're changing the arc of history.
You have, obviously, for several years, as part of the Trump movement.
But right now, the last thing they want to hear is your voice and your opinion on, We're not going to increase the debt ceiling.
We're not going to approve a continued resolution until you show us a plan.
This is what happens on Wall Street.
Show us the plan.
Show me the plan.
Then we can vote you in.
Until then, the answer is no.
And Biden, these guys, remember, they tried to hide this.
Did you hear about the continued resolution until ten days, two weeks ago?
No, not a word.
You hear about the debt ceiling until we started blowing up back in July?
No, not a word.
And then nobody wanted to talk about it.
We told you Over the other side of the hill, tomorrow's news today, that this was going to be the firestorm.
Right now it's a firestorm because they're up there trying to run around about how they're going to fund the government.
Pelosi and Schumer and Biden are going to shut down the government at midnight if the Republicans stay together.
Have them, if you're going to pass this here, have them come back and show you what the plan is.
Where's the appropriations bill?
They've had all this time to govern.
No, you let them off the hook and that's why they ran around with this madness with the infrastructure bill.
They're going to let all the transportation stuff run on a Thursday.
You let them go around and run around with all the fantasy.
These are fantasies.
Right now, because of this show and the audience, you're blowing people up.
By the way, let's get all the numbers up there in the, in particularly Tier 1, that the traitors in the Republican Party are going to support the infrastructure, the phony infrastructure bill.
Blow them up, go email, call their office, email them, send a long email.
Color inside the lines, but color boldly.
Say, you cannot destroy our country.
We haven't done, and the numbers are horrific.
You know, Rasmussen was out today.
He had Jack Posobiec on here.
40%, only 40% of the American people, 40% agree with raising the debt limit.
Only 40%.
unidentified
52%, nope.
Nope.
steve bannon
The answer is no.
The answer is no.
Continuing Resolution?
The answer is no.
Show us your plan for the government for next year.
You've had plenty of time.
You haven't been held up by Republicans.
Republicans have no power up here except Marjorie Taylor Greene who runs up there all the time and says you've got to take a voice vote instead of having these, or you've got to take a real vote instead of having these voice votes.
She's up there trying to chop block them every day, making them read the bill.
By the way, Boris, the bills are like 9,000 pages long.
Of course, are they even going to read the bills are like 9,000 pages long.
Oh yeah.
Are they even going to flip them or what's going to happen?
boris epshteyn
Well, first of all, we both know that's a rhetorical question, right?
It's an honor to be here.
Huge day.
It does seem like Friday was about a month ago, okay?
I woke up this morning, and as you well know, I worked all weekend long nonstop on Arizona, decertified, decertified, decertified, on Pennsylvania, on Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, and of course, to stop this nonsense happening here in Washington, D.C.
So we've lived about a year since Friday.
steve bannon
Long weekend.
boris epshteyn
And make no mistake about it, do not let the mainstream media or any rhinos fool you.
Huge win in Arizona.
Over 55,000 illegal ballots, proving that Arizona should have never been certified.
steve bannon
I'm throwing in Dr. Shiva's.
I think we're at 70,000.
boris epshteyn
I mean, first of all.
steve bannon
Dr. Shiva nailed it.
boris epshteyn
First of all.
And we've said this, and this is fact.
steve bannon
And he's got two brains.
boris epshteyn
Do not move off this.
This is Maricopa County alone.
steve bannon
Right.
And if you don't... Two-thirds of the state.
boris epshteyn
Two-thirds of the state.
steve bannon
Pinal, Pima... You gross up your $100,000.
boris epshteyn
And then you've got to think about all Cochise, the counties which are Native American majorities.
And no, I'm not saying that because that's where historically the hanky-panky, the fraud has always taken place.
steve bannon
Doesn't include any illegal alien votes.
boris epshteyn
And somebody says, well, you know, those are Republican counties.
Yeah.
What happens is, instead of winning 70-30, you win 60-40, and if you don't think that makes up for 10,000 votes, I, as usual, have a bunch of bridges to sell you all over, up and down the eastern seaboard.
Okay?
So, Arizona proven to have been stolen by Joe Biden, proven that it needs to be decertified, no doubt about it.
Now, that's Arizona.
Pennsylvania, the subpoenas are out, their due info is due 4-1.
Georgia hearing now in a week, and now there's going to be, we know there's a special session that they're going to have on their own funding, that we're going to, and the MAGA posse... Well, the special session is redistricting.
steve bannon
I haven't heard anybody that's not on the official schedule, and Kemp is not about to do it.
boris epshteyn
If the MAGA posse lines up and says we demand We will not accept having a special session on redistricting, and which will include some funding for that, of course, as I said, without dealing with 3 November?
If the MAGA posse, the MAGA movement, the movement, you, all of you who made Arizona happen, if you do your job, always color within the lines, but color boldly, as Steve just said, I will guarantee you that Brian Kentlich won't be able to do anything else.
No matter how much he's leaking, oh, we're going to bring charges based on a completely perfect phone call, or this or that, that's all nonsense.
Okay, so that's going to happen.
Back to what's happening here in D.C.
To answer your question, long story long as they say, no, they're never going to read the bills, Stephen K. Bannon.
No, they're not even going to read the executive summaries.
They added 800 billion dollars as a joke, just like as a, how you doing, okay?
steve bannon
For people, for what Boris is saying, it's been 3.5 trillion for weeks and they're saying, oh it should be a trillion and a half a year mansion, all nonsense. Nancy Pelosi, because of the show, and by the way, let's get all the numbers up on the screen, let's get all the numbers up in Denver, let's get all the numbers up in all the live chats across all platforms.
Call your Senator, call your Congressman, call some of these Democrats from the swing distance, definitely call the Tier 1 guys who are thinking of folding on the infrastructure bill.
But, so, Nancy Pelosi comes out on Friday and says, we have a framework to pay for, because we're sitting there hammering and going, nothing under 3.5 trillion is paid for, so therefore, you've got to include, if you want to raise the debt ceiling, you've got to include that.
They're panicked because they know if they have to put that number, it's over.
So they come back and say, we have a framework now.
We have a framework, it's all paid for.
That is a bald-faced lie.
Okay, a bald-faced lie.
So, they got so jacked up over the weekend, they said, oh, we can pay for more, so they added another 800 billion.
boris epshteyn
800 billion.
steve bannon
It's obscene.
So, by the way, they're not treating you like adults.
It's ridiculous.
Look at these other shows.
They got these guys pontificating, well, I think mansions at 1.5.
What are you talking about?
Get back to the programs.
What are you actually talking about?
This stuff is insanity and they keep calling it investments.
The reason they call it investments, they polled it.
People like investments.
Okay?
They like the government.
Here's, hey, here's what he said before he talked about new investments.
I see that we got 28 trillion dollars.
Where's the money?
Where are the airports?
Where are the railroads?
Where's the high-speed railroads?
Where's the great airports?
Where's all the fabulous highways?
Where's all the infrastructure?
At 28 trillion dollars, where did the money go?
Here's where it goes.
Operating expenses.
And that's what this money is.
This money is all going to be frittered away.
You're not going to see a penny of it.
It's not going to go in any great infrastructure.
It's all going to get frittered away.
And then the bill is going to be left.
And then, anybody under 45 years old, we are condemning Okay, generations of people to go from Russian serfs, which you are now, to debt slaves.
This is debt slavery, okay?
These numbers are going to explode.
Essentially, Steve Moore and I did the numbers the other day.
If you raise the debt ceiling right now, you're basically signing off on $15 to $16 trillion of new debt.
And if they don't say Bannon's wrong, he's lined up fine.
Come back, where's the plan?
I just want to know, we put up the other day, let's get that back up there, the Congressional Budget Office, not Gateway Pundit, not Citizens Free Press, right?
Not the War Room.
The CBO, headline in the CBO report, United States hurtling towards fiscal crisis.
And the crisis was a systemic, a structural deficit of at least a trillion dollars, probably a trillion and a half every year in perpetuity.
They said you never close it.
So that's, here's the question.
This is what the continued resolution meant.
Throw that out.
Throw all the spending bills out.
Junk that.
Come back.
Where's the budget and the appropriations bill for this coming year?
At midnight on Thursday, the clock runs out.
Where's your plan?
You don't have enough respect for the American people to come forward?
You're too gutless, you understand?
If they see it, they're going to go, no, we're not signing up for this.
boris epshteyn
It's going to be like the Godfather, when he said to Virgil Sollozzo, my offer to you is this, zero.
And that is what you, my offer to you is this, zero.
steve bannon
That was actually to the Senator.
boris epshteyn
Oh, the Senator.
Oh, it's Michael Corleone.
steve bannon
Hey, instead of paying, hey, here's my offer.
boris epshteyn
Nothing.
steve bannon
In fact, you pay.
boris epshteyn
I'd appreciate it if you cover the cost.
So you're right.
Steve better on this because, you know, you were like 50 when the movie came out.
So in all seriousness, that's what it is.
Michael Corleone to the Senator who then got killed at the whorehouse.
Because that's what this is.
That's what this is.
unidentified
This is a brothel of Orgy.
boris epshteyn
Orgy of spending.
steve bannon
Orgy of spending.
boris epshteyn
My offer to you is this, Senator, nothing.
And by the way, go pay for the infrastructure.
steve bannon
By the way, Biden called the three no's.
He said, hey, we've got three pieces of business, the continued resolution, the debt ceiling, and then, oh, two pieces of legislation.
No, the four no's.
The four no's.
No on the CR, no on the debt ceiling, no on the infrastructure bill, and no on the fantasy human infrastructure.
The answer is, we thought about it, we contemplated it, here's what it is, wait for it, No.
Short commercial break.
We're back in the War Room next.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, you don't have a ringside seat.
You're in the ring.
In a couple of the most historic weeks in modern political history, where the illegitimate Biden administration, with polling numbers that have collapsed more than any resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in history, and with no majorities, got a couple of seats in the House, nothing in the Senate, they're trying to jam through the most radical plan, and they've been caught.
At West Point, they say, you've been found.
They've been found.
And they got zero.
Now the whole thing, Nancy Pelosi, it had to come today, the infrastructure vote, because the transportation bills, you know, unwinding or expiring on Thursday.
That's the end of the fiscal year.
Now Biden just kind of, oh, by the way, no, you know, I think we're going to get to it next week.
We're going to get to everything next week.
You've already crushed them.
I want you to get on the phones.
This is where you've got to apply the muscle.
And it would help if you're a precinct committeeman, but it's fine if you're just a citizen.
But everybody should be a precinct committeeman.
Now's the time to get empowered on a school board, at the Republican Party precinct level.
Anywhere, just get some muscle.
Call, email, text these senators and congressmen and say, hey, absolutely no, the answer is no.
Until you show us a plan, the answer is no.
I can tell you what's going to happen when they show you the plan, you're going to say no too, because then you're going to sit there and go, are you crazy?
Think about it for a second.
They've had all this time, and they've got MSNBC, and by the way, MSNBC's on the complete loop on 6th January, okay?
Keep playing it.
I want you to keep playing it.
Because right now we're going to win 6th January.
What's 6th January?
Exactly, thank you very much.
boris epshteyn
What are you talking about?
steve bannon
Exactly.
unidentified
Are you talking about that time that like a few people... No, no, no, but the whole thing with Trump, they're playing it on a loop, and here's the thing... Oh wait, I heard there was a guy who caused all that.
steve bannon
I heard that too.
Who was that guy?
By the way...
Here's the bottom line.
Keep playing it on the loop.
We want you to play it on the loop because you know what?
Your audience is getting smaller and smaller and smaller.
The country is on fire.
Inflation is out of control.
Look at the chart of where oil prices are going to go, where natural gas prices.
Ladies and gentlemen out there, particularly independents and folks that voted for Joe Biden.
I want you to embrace the fact that it's going to cost you like 5x to heat your house this year.
I want you to embrace the fact Costco, when's the last time, Boris, you've been on the street a long time as a finance guy, when's the last time a company like Costco put out a, not an earnings warning, but put out a warning to the customers Right now, supply chain inflation is 5.9% and we're passing it on to you.
We just want to give you a heads up.
No harm, no foul.
We love you guys.
Why don't you keep coming to the store?
unidentified
But we've got to pass the cost on to you.
steve bannon
That's unbelievable.
You're seeing inflation out of control.
The supply chain is totally busted.
You've got ships in LA Harbor, you've got a totally dysfunctional economy, and it's the working class people that these unfair taxes are going to be on.
You've seen Bidenville, Mogadishu, down in Del Rio, Texas.
I want every working class Hispanic to embrace exactly what they're trying to do to you in the Rio Grande Valley.
I want every working class person and every lower middle class person who's living really on a tight budget, I want you to see what your food costs are, but you ain't seen nothing yet.
Wait till this winter.
Natural gas through the roof.
Gasoline prices, oil prices through the roof.
Why?
Because of this half-baked, now he's got this half-baked green new deal that nobody quite figured out what they're trying to do.
Trillions of dollars of basically grift to Wall Street.
The Wall Street guys and the global world corporations are grifting this.
Think about it.
All these months you've been sitting there and you've been watching TVs.
You flip and they say, hey, they cut the infrastructure bill.
And you flip and they got Joe Manchin sitting there looking very solemn.
He's on these talk shows.
Yes.
You know, I think maybe I'll slow down.
Maybe a train and a half.
Donut numbers are absurd.
Maybe a train and a half, maybe three train.
And you have these people sitting around on the business channel.
They're looking very serious.
Yes, it's a P3.
It's all crap!
Tell me, have anybody had the common courtesy to come to you and say, forget that, just show me the operating plan of the federal government.
Show me, which they never put together.
You know, it's a three and a half trillion dollars of transfer payments, Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security, and, I don't know, a trillion, trillion and a half dollars of Did you ever hear anything about the appropriations bill and the budget for this year coming due at the end of September and they were working on it?
promises they made in 2011 and 2013, they did not keep one promise when we went through this debt ceiling fiasco before.
Why?
They basically lied, said they're going to do massive restructuring of the federal budget and it never happens.
So this year, they tried to hide it.
Did you ever hear anything about the appropriations bill and the budget for this year coming due at the end of September?
They were working on it.
Did you ever hear anything about that?
Was Nancy Pelosi, anybody up there saying, yes, this is what we've got to do?
Did you ever hear about this continued resolution until a couple weeks ago?
Here's what they're going to try to do, saying, hey, we spent so much time and so much effort working on these transformational, that we have no mandate for, we have no votes for, we are imploding in our popularity and our approval.
We're imploding.
We're now in the 20s among independents, which are the proxy for the American people right now, although we don't have any of that.
And this question is 42% of independents, according to The Economist, question our legitimacy.
Right?
Thank you, War Room, very much.
Right?
Now, you got that?
Did they ever?
They tried to slide both of them in here.
And now, we told you months ago, you're the problem.
You're the arsonist.
You're trying to burn down capital markets.
You're trying to destroy the stock market.
They got these reports.
Sixteen trillion dollars of wealth is going to be wiped off the stock market.
Seven million people are going to be out of work.
unidentified
It's going to be... Hey, just sit there and go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
steve bannon
Just show me the plan.
They ran out of time, and you know why they ran out of time?
They never had any earthly idea to show you a plan.
They were just going to kind of grease this in, the way this swamp works.
While they sat there and pontificated about their great thoughts about the Green New Deal, and their great thoughts about the social safety net, and their great thoughts, it's all... How do I say this?
It's a fever dream.
And it's a fever dream.
You know why it's a fever dream?
Because they always know they can stare you down on the death ceiling because they said that you can't do that!
It's catastrophic!
Look at every article.
It's catastrophic!
Today in Politico, as Boris pointed out to me, the lead story in the afternoon was they've got no plan B. They don't have enough respect for you to have something in their back pocket to say, OK, if the deplorables sit there and they're not convinced, we have to have another way of it.
It's all or nothing.
They're just going to come back and go, no, you deplorables are sitting there and you're going to destroy the global capital markets.
You're going to destroy the economy.
They said today in that article, they said it's going to be worse than Lehman Meltdown.
It's going to be worse than the financial crisis of 2008.
Hey, guess what?
It's not the deplorables.
The deplorables are not shutting down the government at midnight on Thursday.
That's federal law.
You gotta have the budget.
You gotta have new appropriations approved and signed for the next fiscal year.
Where is it?
You control the government.
Where's Nancy Pelosi?
Where's Chuck Schumer?
Where's Joe Biden?
You have been reckless.
You have been reckless in how you've run this, and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
So here's what the debtor in possession—and by the way, on the 15th, you've got all the cash out of the tomato cans in the back of the Federal Reserve.
No more three-card money.
You now need to go, and the deplorable's got to prove a thing.
Here's the point.
The answer is, okay, we understand that the United States, the government's bankrupt.
We got that.
Janet Yellow tells us that.
It's going to default on its debt.
So we're prepared.
We're prepared to, since we're the debtor in possession, we're the DIP lender, debtor in possession, we're the senior lender in the cap table, because only we can increase the debt ceiling, we're prepared to take a meeting.
We're prepared to have that meeting.
Where's the plan?
Here's what they don't want to show you.
This is why you never hear this anywhere in town.
Just show me the basic projections from the Congressional Budget Office, the Congressional Research Center, just show me the projections that show trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see and then let's get down to the assumptions and you realize those assumptions are tremendously optimistic.
Right?
Tremendously optimistic.
We used to have a saying when I had my own investment bank about, Boris, you'd appreciate this, called EBITDA.
EBITDA is a term of art in finance.
It means cash flow.
Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization.
So it's a proxy for all the cash that comes in before all the accounting voodoo.
And it's used all the time.
Okay?
It's always wrong.
So we had a saying up above on the thing above my office.
EBITDA is an opinion.
Cash is a fact.
boris epshteyn
Totally.
steve bannon
Okay?
You have Mr. Balance Sheet at the beginning, you see the cash, and you have Mr. Balance Sheet at the end period, and that's the cash.
Where'd the cash flow to?
Where's my starting cash?
Where's my ending cash?
That's cash.
EBITDA can have so much voodoo done with it, it means... I've never, I've never done anything.
I'm sure, I'm sure.
No bankers ever did EBITDA.
boris epshteyn
No, never in my life have I done anything.
steve bannon
No, but that's okay.
But that's what we have here.
You have three card money.
Even the projections by CBO.
If you look at the assumptions, here's the point.
If you want to get a continued resolution, the answer is no.
Come back with your appropriations and have enough respect for the American people.
And this is what the beauty of the polling is.
The American people are waking up to this.
They said, hang on for a second.
We haven't been shown any facts.
They want you to be financially alert.
They want this stuff up here to be so complicated.
It ain't that complicated, okay?
Sources of revenue, uses of revenue.
Sources of revenue are you.
You pay the taxes, and when they print money, it's on your shoulders.
Of course, another source of revenue is we do sell a few bonds to the Chinese Communist Party so they can have some leverage over us.
The uses are everywhere, and the first thing you should say, hey, on the use of proceeds, the $20 trillion, where did the money go?
Walk around your neighborhood.
Walk around your city.
Get on Google and start looking at places and say, where are the railroads?
Where are the high-speed trains?
Where are the great airports?
Where are the magnificent highways?
Where are the great schools?
Where did the money go?
And you're going to have this hubbada, hubbada, hubbada, hubbada, hubbada.
Here's how it went.
Operating expenses.
Okay?
It all got frittered away.
So when they say investments, they have test marketed that, say, American people like investments.
If their money goes to investments, they're comfortable.
These are not investments.
That's all crap!
It's just gonna go spend, increase programs, spend more money.
They get the government up to 30% of the overall GDP and that time it's over, ladies and gentlemen.
This is a radical transformation.
Obama was just happy talk.
He's talking about I'm a radically transformed.
That was happy talk.
This is the real deal.
This city is about money and power.
And here's the great thing.
You've got the power.
And you've actually got the money.
You've got the checks, but that's what they're skirming around up here.
All of a sudden it was, oh, it's supposed to, it's locked.
We're voting on the 27th.
boris epshteyn
Four more days.
steve bannon
Joe Biden's won.
No, 27th is going to be today.
boris epshteyn
Right, but now Thursday.
steve bannon
Now, but hold it, Joe Biden just said, eh, maybe next week.
boris epshteyn
And by the way, three-card Monty is not apt, with all respect.
This makes three-card Monty literally look honest.
This makes Obamacare look honest, okay?
This is disgusting, but we're pushing back, and the reason they're all in free-fall everywhere is this show is the magnet movement under the leadership of President Trump.
It's this audience.
steve bannon
Hit, we need everybody to get on an email, to get on a phone.
Today's the day to get to the ramparts.
Put the fear God in them.
Say, guess what?
Upon further review, the answer is, hmm, wait for it, no.
Okay, we'll be back.
Zero.
Embrace the suck.
unidentified
We'll be back in a moment.
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By the way, Mike Lindell came out pretty good looking on the By Ben Cotton and the Cyber Team in Arizona on Friday.
You know, Matt Salmon was on here.
He was all worked up this morning about how the machines were hooked up to the internet.
Matt Salmon's throwing down on, you gotta decertify this, but you gotta refer criminal charges.
I mean, Matt Salmon's not a guy...
Who runs around with his hair on fire.
By the way, people don't remember this.
Back in 2011, Salmon was at the forefront with the Health Freedom Caucus back in those days after the great Tea Party victory of 2010.
He was one of the leaders in this fight over debt ceiling and spending and all that.
I'll tell you, he left a lot of scar tissue.
This is why...
We're playing Smash Mouth.
And remember, by playing Smash Mouth and putting the fear of God in these Republicans, you have forced the Biden guys to totally junk their original plan.
They thought they're gonna waltz in here and media was gonna be all, you know, these guys are great, they're passing this, they're doing this.
They have a saying on Wall Street, don't catch a falling knife.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
Okay.
boris epshteyn
Don't buy a stock all the way down.
steve bannon
All the way down.
Yeah, this thing is in a free fall right now.
boris epshteyn
So, it's not just, by the way, Matt Salmon, who came out, and I'll disclose, I'm helping Matt Salmon, and I'm a big fan of his.
Big fan.
Matt Salmon, who's a congressman, who's one of the founders of the Tea Party movement.
You know, the first Tea Party movement, Freedom Caucus, along with, he's, Matt Salmon, this morning, came in hot.
Katie Hopps fired.
Bronovich investigation on Arizona.
We know Arizona was stolen.
But it's not just him.
Breaking news right here.
We ready?
Worldwide exclusive for War Room.
You're going to have an op-ed up on warroom.org in the next couple hours from Jane Timken, former GOP Chair of Ohio.
Again, somebody who's all in on MAGA and somebody who's been around a good amount, but again, somebody who's very thoughtful and, you know, meaningful.
steve bannon
She's MAGA but come from the more established part of the party.
boris epshteyn
How do I say the word established?
unidentified
She's more traditionally conservative.
steve bannon
Don't tell me she's coming in for decertifying.
boris epshteyn
Coming in on an op-ed on warroom.org, Jane Timken, who may be here later this week, right Steve?
steve bannon
She's coming in for decertified.
boris epshteyn
She's coming in for decertified in her op-ed.
Full-on decertified.
Full-on.
Only elections based on legal votes can become or can remain certified.
You've got people like Matt Salmon, Jane Timken, Eric Grein's been leading on this thing.
steve bannon
These are not crazy people.
unidentified
Eric Grein's a Rhodes Scholar.
boris epshteyn
These are not Boris Epstein.
steve bannon
These are guys that are convinced by the evidence.
boris epshteyn
By the way.
steve bannon
Follow the science.
boris epshteyn
And you're going to see this go deeper and deeper and deeper and let me tell you something.
What was the MAGA movement that was maybe 80% of the party, okay?
Right now, the MAGA movement, the 3 November movement, the Vote No movement, is 95% of this party.
And whoever's not here, God bless you.
Okay, if you don't get it, if you don't get it, as they say in the South, bless your heart.
Bless your heart.
Because you want this country to Have the worst disaster, Steve.
We talked about this.
We're talking about each one of these things, right?
It's almost like they're gaslighting the American people because everything's so bad, you forget about how terrible every single thing is.
The border!
We have no southern border.
We have no idea who's coming through.
steve bannon
The DHS guy comes up.
It's calling Jake Tapper a lie.
I mean, finally calling it a lie.
12,000 Haitians are now in the country.
boris epshteyn
And Jake was like, oh, yeah.
unidentified
No, but he said, Jake went after him.
steve bannon
Went after him.
Because they couldn't get a straight story in the 5,000.
These guys are looking right now.
Here's the beauty of it.
And listen, here's one of the reasons we're spending so much time on the money.
You cut the money off, they can't do anything.
unidentified
No.
steve bannon
This is what they hope to have as their transformational moment, right?
We understand CRT, border vaccines, we're gonna get to all that.
We got so much news backed up, so many stories backed up.
But right now, we've got our work.
boris epshteyn
Let's not forget Afghanistan.
Let's not memory hole Afghanistan.
The worst international foreign policy, national security disaster in American history.
steve bannon
So talk to me about some polling.
These polling numbers... Okay, this just came out.
These polling numbers are historically At numbers, and by the way, the only way you can get to these low numbers, I'm talking in the 30s and high 20s for independents, which is a proxy for the American people right now, is that he started from a base like Bill Clinton in 1992 of around 43%, 43, 44, 45.
There's zero mathematical probability he was at 81 million votes.
And this is why they don't want to talk about the polling.
And look in the battleground states.
In the battleground states, 42% approval, 57, 58% disapproval.
This guy's turned the nation back to two-thirds, one-third on his presidency.
boris epshteyn
Go ahead.
This is a poll from Politico.
Morning Consult Politico.
Okay?
steve bannon
This is not Trafalgar Group.
This is not Richard Beres.
boris epshteyn
This is not Richard Beres.
This is not Trafalgar.
This is not Rasmussen.
All good polling.
By the way, the only polling that's ever right.
unidentified
Right.
boris epshteyn
Okay?
Right direction, wrong direction.
Right direction, wrong direction.
Thirty-nine, right direction.
Sixty-one, wrong track.
steve bannon
Ten months.
Ten months into it.
By the way, this shows you, that means you have zero political capital.
boris epshteyn
Zero, none.
You're dead.
steve bannon
And how, this is, boys, you've been around a long time.
How do they have the gall?
To sit up here and try to jam through, with all the funky voodoo they're going to try to do, to jam through these spending bills that will radically change America.
boris epshteyn
And by the way, about this poll, again, we always like to point out, you've got to look at the facts, folks, so signal not noise.
When you look at a poll, look at the amount of people who are actually surveyed, right?
Usually a poll has 600, 700.
600, 700, this is a 3,000, 299, 2999, 3,000 person, all registered voters, all registered This doesn't even include our crowd who doesn't buy the register.
steve bannon
In Virginia 7 and Virginia 2 right now, these moderate Democrats, what they're looking at is that they're going to get wiped out to sea.
Because when you've got right track, wrong track like this, they throw everybody out.
This is how you get a 52 to 62 seat sweep in 2022.
boris epshteyn
I think, go back to 2010.
History is always a lesson, right?
Barack Obama was not upside down by 30 in 2010.
He probably was up right side up by about 4.
steve bannon
No, no, no.
Right now he was starting to be down.
But nowhere near.
boris epshteyn
But not by 30.
steve bannon
No, this guy is where Clinton is.
But Clinton started at 43%.
They never bring that up.
unidentified
No.
steve bannon
He started at 43%.
boris epshteyn
What we're looking at right now, maybe, what is the largest swing of all time?
Probably somewhere in FDR years, right?
No, no, 63 seats.
steve bannon
Is that the largest?
For 1932, it's the biggest since 1932.
unidentified
So as I said, FDR, 1932.
boris epshteyn
1932 is the benchmark.
steve bannon
I think it might have been 100 seats.
32, it's the biggest since 1932.
boris epshteyn
So as I said, FDR, 32.
steve bannon
1932 is the benchmark.
I think it might have been 100 seats.
So 63 seats is the biggest.
boris epshteyn
You may be looking.
steve bannon
By the way, Newt Gingrich two years after Clinton, which got the House back for the first time since 1932, and then in 2010, 63 seats, those are the two biggest.
In Clinton's first term, in Obama's first term, and my point is, you're in Clinton numbers because he didn't get the 81 million.
boris epshteyn
This is going to make that seem like child's play.
I'm going to say this right now, and this is not hyperbole, this is not bloviating, this is real numbers.
By the way, it's never getting better.
If this continues, and as is likely gets worse, on the border, internationally, on the spending... The winter spending to hate your house.
And by the way, when the government shuts down, people are going to not have work or income.
You could be looking at a hundred-seat swing in the House.
You could have people wiped out.
I remember they say this story about how in 94 Tip O'Neill got wiped out.
You had people wiped out who had never... Foley.
steve bannon
The Speaker of the House got beaten.
boris epshteyn
Foley got beaten.
The Speaker got beaten.
steve bannon
They took the Speaker out.
boris epshteyn
So you could be looking at the Kim Klasek seat.
You could be looking at Maxine Waters, and I'm not, this is, listen, you know, I am not, some people, when I walk into an office, I was in an office building earlier, people start whispering, that's the war room guy, and that's fine, okay, I'm happy for it, I'll wear that badge all day long, but I am telling you, as somebody who studied history, it's the war room guy, who studied history in and out at Georgetown, not about school, humbly, that this could be, I thought you went to Widener, Widener Law School.
No, no, no, Widener's another thing.
I wonder for another day.
If you look at history, revolutions happen when things are bad.
And I'm not saying there's going to be.
Everybody take it easy.
But a 100 seat swing and a 20 seat swing in the Senate is a revolution.
steve bannon
We don't need an insurrection.
We're in charge.
boris epshteyn
The MAGA crowd is going to go to the polls and that's it.
You know who Joe Biden is today?
He's Louis XVI.
And no, I'm not making any physical parallels, but the weakness, the ineptitude, the complete financial breakdown, the wandering around.
He's Louis XVI.
And our version of the French Revolution will be much easier.
We're just going to go to the polls, we're going to elect 100 Republicans to the House, 20 to the Senate, and in 2024, Donald John Trump is going to walk into the White House.
steve bannon
This is already command by negation.
The police reform thing they were trying to do, the voting thing, they've all died, and they're on MSNBC crying every night.
boris epshteyn
I thought we were going to have 30 Supreme Court judges, what happened to that?
steve bannon
And 7 new states, 7 new states out.
Okay, you break their backs right now on this spending bill, and here's how you gotta force them.
They've got to come.
Try to pass the CR.
The answer is no.
You cannot pass.
Show us your appropriations bill.
Show us your budget.
And you've got plenty of time.
It's like cramming for homework.
You've got to get to midnight on Thursday.
You control the House.
You control the Senate.
You've got the White House.
Just do it.
And then on the debt ceiling, come back with a plan.
Come back with a plan based upon the CR.
Show us how you're going to finance.
What's the plan for the $1 trillion deficit you're going to run in perpetuity?
Show us the plan.
When you show that, then we can get to the, you know, the Infra-Screen New Deal and all this stuff.
We'll deal with that, okay?
But show some respect.
You know what they're not doing?
They're not bringing respect to the American people.
boris epshteyn
No, and they never have.
And these are not your dad's Democrats, your grandpa's Democrats, right?
These are not people like Tip O'Neill, right?
Who Reagan said he could deal with.
These are absolutely empty.
Absolutely devoid of reality, people.
You know, the Nancy Pelosi's, the Benny Thompson, the AOC's.
And they just don't care about you.
steve bannon
They kowtow to the oligarchs.
They think that the whole corporation is an oligarch.
boris epshteyn
That's all it is.
But, here's the beauty of it.
Look at these 10 months.
Look what we've driven Joe Biden's approval to.
And that's all this audience, under the leadership of President Trump.
steve bannon
Did we kill it in the crib?
Sorry, not sorry.
Breaking news!
That's what an opposition party does.
Didn't you try to do it to President Trump?
Didn't succeed.
boris epshteyn
Didn't succeed.
steve bannon
We succeeded.
And by the way... Sorry, not sorry.
The media is not... Check with the American people.
It's the American people.
It's a 29%, 28% in Pew poll of independents.
Are you questioning their judgment?
boris epshteyn
Didn't you say that was coming?
steve bannon
Are you questioning their judgment?
Is that what you're doing, MSNBC?
You're questioning the judgment of the American people?
Just look at the numbers!
You should have a... Rachel!
And by the way, we drove Rachel Maddow out of here!
She wants to spend more time with her family!
boris epshteyn
Yeah, Rachel's retiring.
Here's the truth.
steve bannon
She doesn't want to be there on election night in 2022.
boris epshteyn
Of course not, in 2024.
If you thought the video from 2016 of the states calling for Donald Trump was bad, imagine the 1984 style election 2024 is going to be, okay?
Walter Mondale will be feeling good about himself, God rest his soul, okay?
steve bannon
Okay, we've got breaking news out of Canada.
I think we're going to try to get her.
Arthur Pavlosky.
The Polish Canadian that's been there, been the great fire-breathing preacher.
He's been in the United States touring for a couple of months.
He arrives, we just found out, he arrives in Canada on a private airplane, gets off the plane, he's immediately arrested by Canadian authorities or held by Canadian authorities.
So, Sidney Chafin is going to be on.
We're tracking her down.
I think she's on the West Coast.
We're tracking her down for commentary and to find out exactly what's happening.
The great Arthur Pavlosky.
You remember him from his videos about throwing the police out of his church when he's talking about vaccines and vaccine mandates.
So, it's a real mess up there in Canada.
We're going to be live.
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steve bannon
When you talk about cancel culture, we're going to go to the heart of it right now.
Cindy Chafin joins us by phone, breaking news on the great preacher, Arthur Pavlovsky, up in Canada.
We've had him on the show many, many times.
We've shown the videos of really the Canadian Gestapo coming into the church, threatening them about vaccines and vaccine mandates and everything like that.
Cindy, tell us what happened today.
unidentified
Yeah, hi.
Thanks, Steve, for having me on.
So, sorry about the video.
I'm here at the airport.
I just landed here in Atlanta.
So this morning, I sent Pastor Arthur back.
We finished the tour here in America, and he was on a private jet back from Bozeman to Calgary.
And as soon as he stepped foot back on Canadian soil, the Canadian authorities, Calgary authorities, were there and arrested him immediately.
He didn't even step two feet onto the tarmac before they had his hands behind his back, and he was on his knees again.
So they've arrested him.
They've taken him to an undisclosed location.
When he went in to fly, when they flew in, the Calgary officials forced his plane to reroute.
There were about 50 to 75 people waiting at the airport there for him.
His family, his wife, and his children were there waiting for him, and they rerouted the plane to a different location other than where he was supposed to be flying it originally, so that they could take him away without them being able to see anything.
They didn't want any spectacle.
They didn't want any witnesses to this kidnapping of this pastor who they are We don't even know what the charges are at this point.
They're claiming that he's being charged with, get this, baptizing his daughter in May.
So that is what they're claiming the charges are, but we all know that there's far more to it than that.
So, as of this morning, he was arrested again.
We don't know where he is.
His family went to the Romance Center, which is where, I guess it's like a police station.
I'm not in Canada, so I'm not sure.
And his family was then, they asked about Arthur, and as soon as they started asking about Arthur Pelosi, they locked his family out of this government building.
Because they were simply asking about their husband and father.
So we are asking everybody to contact the Calgary Mayor.
And if you want to take this phone number down, it's 403-268-2489 and demand that they let this pastor go.
The idea that he can be held in jail for nothing more than baptizing his daughter or holding church is absolute tyranny.
We cannot stand for this any longer.
We shouldn't have been standing for it as long as we have.
As I said, Arthur Pavlovsky, after being here in America for three and a half months, warning about the tyranny and what's coming to America, has once again been arrested.
And we do not know what he... Go ahead.
steve bannon
I just want to make sure.
He's been here in the United States on this tour where he's lightened people up for three and a half months.
This is the first time he's returned to Canada since basically what, June?
unidentified
Correct.
Yeah, he got here on June 10th and he has been We've been nationwide warning people about what is coming to America.
This is happening in Canada.
Nobody thought it would happen in Canada, but here we are.
And he has been here since June.
He has not returned back.
He has had multiple court dates, and his last court date where he was found guilty of being held in contempt, the verdict of that was he was found guilty, and then his sentencing has been postponed until October.
So this is a completely new charge.
This has nothing to do with the original video and the original arrest that people have seen.
There is a video of his arrest on at my website firebrandfirebrandaction.com So and I will be updating people as I get more information at that website firebrandaction.com And they can contact me through there to find out whatever information is coming in.
steve bannon
I want to get the link to the arrest video.
Is this the arrest video from today or the previous one?
The one from today?
unidentified
So the private pilot took a video of him being arrested.
So this is the video of him being arrested today as soon as he got back to Canada.
I will send that to you, but it's at my website right now, FirebrandAction.com.
steve bannon
Okay, so let's get that up.
Give us the number again of what people can call and voice their support for the pastor.
What's the number?
unidentified
Yes, okay, hold on one second.
Sorry, I have to go back to that really quickly.
Sorry, I'm juggling.
Okay, so the number to the Calgary Mayor is in, I think it's a 4-0-3-2-6-8-2-4-8-9.
I don't know if there's a country code.
I think it may be 3-1-1.
No, no.
You just dial straight through to Canada.
4-0-3-2-6-8-2-4-8-9.
2-4-8-9.
Yes.
steve bannon
You just dial straight through to Canada.
403-268-2489.
2489.
Yes.
unidentified
So blow those lines up, metaphorically speaking, of course, and make sure, demand that he be released now.
steve bannon
Okay.
Okay.
unidentified
God bless.
All right, thanks so much.
All right, bye-bye.
steve bannon
I want everybody to get the links.
Let's get the video.
Okay, 403-268-2489.
Call the mayor of Calgary right now and voice your support for the pastor, pastor-author, and tell him, hey, this is unacceptable.
He's got to be let go.
Boris, closing thoughts, comments, analysis?
boris epshteyn
Well, first of all, we all knew that this was coming, right?
We all knew that the absolute overreaching of the government in the United States across the world.
unidentified
This is Canada.
boris epshteyn
This is not Myanmar.
This is not North Korea.
This is Canada.
And if you don't think that the liberals here want to do the same thing, you're kidding yourself.
And that's why we're seeing the engagement we're seeing.
Steve, I gotta tell you, after Friday, what I got on Getter, what I've gotten on Twitter and Instagram has been unbelievable.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
boris epshteyn
Although the people are fired up.
They're fired up.
steve bannon
Because they know they make a change.
This is why we're breaking their back this week on this spending, this ridiculous out-of-control spending.
How do people get to you on social media?
boris epshteyn
No doubt about it.
The new website, there's a great guy did it, somebody you know well, great work, took a little bit, but the guy who did it said to me, hey, I got to do a great job because I got to show it to Steve, okay?
BorisEP.com is the website.
Go sign up right now.
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Boris underscore Epstein.
God bless.
Stay strong.
All eyes on Pennsylvania and on Arizona.
De-certify.
steve bannon
Okay, I want everybody to stay in Telegram.
I want everybody to stay in the Rumble sites.
Go to warham.org.
Go to America's Voice.
We want you everywhere in these chat rooms.
Get the numbers of these congressmen.
They're up on our website.
Get the numbers of your congressmen on the website.
You go hit in the left-hand corner your zip code.
It drops right down.
Also, Senators, even these moderate Democrats in districts maybe you don't live in, let's tell everybody.
Know in the CR.
Know in the debt ceiling.
Make your voice heard.
Put your muscle to the wheel.
The next two weeks, Two of the most intense weeks in modern political history, and you're not, you don't have a seat at the table, you have a place in the ring, okay?
Right now they fear you, they fear your voice, they fear your opinion, they fear your actions.
So tomorrow morning when we get back on it, 10 o'clock, the effort to stop the radical transformation of this nation.
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