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unidentified
Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
This is going to be a real serious problem.
unidentified
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
What people want is they want all the votes to be counted.
Nobody on the left is claiming that Joe Biden's going to win vinegar on game day.
Right, because the left understands that Democrats take the pandemic more seriously and will prefer to vote from home.
steve bannon
The vote that counts is when you go into a booth and close it.
Why?
unidentified
Because it has no ability to be handled by anybody else.
Steve, we have a system in this country, including the system by which you were I agree with you.
Every vote gets certified.
steve bannon
But they're going to try to overturn this election with uncertified votes.
It's going to be crazy lawsuits, on naked ballots, on every different aspect of it.
Those counting rooms are going to be knife fights.
But this scale of votes will go into January, and that's when the firestorm starts.
unidentified
That you think will end up being, it's still January, we don't have a president.
anthony fauci
Yes.
unidentified
And the fight then moves to Washington.
Yes.
How do you think it ends up?
steve bannon
Right before noon on the 20th, in a vote in the House, Trump will win the presidency.
unidentified
And reading this book, it strikes me that Mr. Bannon has had an under-celebrated and certainly under-reported role in everything that came to be 1-6.
Am I correct in that?
You're spot on.
And thanks, Bob and Brian, for your generous words.
It's a pleasure to be here and to work with both of you.
And when you look at the Bannon story, for example, Bob Woodward and I said to ourselves, we're going to go back to January 6th to what happened in this dangerous transition period.
and ask further questions, dig deeper.
And we all knew about Rudy Giuliani, President Trump, their roles, they were outsized figures during the transition period.
But as we started to report and sit down with sources for five, six, sometimes 10 hours longer interviews at length, you started to realize there were other players in this whole period who had significant influence.
John Eastman, the conservative lawyer who we put in our book, we put in the memo, drafting a memo about how they could try to throw the election to the House of Representatives, not certify it for Biden, have Vice President Pence essentially give the election to the House Republicans to give to President Trump.
And Steve Bannon, he's now known as a podcast host, A conservative figure popular on the far right, but he's also someone we realized who was talking to President Trump in the final days of the Trump presidency.
Talking to President Trump even on January 5th, the eve of the insurrection, and saying to President Trump, based on our reporting, Kill the Biden presidency in the crib.
January 6th has to be a reckoning.
These were moments that had not been reported, and it shows how so often we ask the question, Brian, we did it so often on your show, where are the top Republicans around President Trump?
Where is Leader McConnell, Leader McCarthy?
That's not always the story in this modern GOP.
It's about some of the fringe figures, the outside figures, who actually wield significant power in these times.
steve bannon
Okay, that opening was from Showtime.
That was in September, when I sat down and did that interview.
Every vote that's certified is the votes that count.
Every vote that can be certified are the votes that count.
And this will get kicked, this will not be able to be certified, but get kicked to the House of Representatives, of which you vote by state party delegation.
Then you've got the Woodward book coming up, talking about the role of Rudy Giuliani, myself, in Discussing, at the time, the certification of these votes.
And tomorrow, we're on the eve, ladies and gentlemen, of tomorrow in the great state of Arizona, when they're going to put out a four-volume study, I think that's going to blow your heads up, and talks about, can these electors be certified?
Okay?
The same argument we made in, hmm, over a year ago.
I think that that was taking place this week.
I'll get the exact thing.
I think that spot went up.
It was off the first debate.
I think it went up this week.
One year ago, this week, was the Showtime ad where I laid it all out.
And this is not brain surgery.
It's not rocket science.
I want to bring in now Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
Mayor, we got a lot to talk about, including everything on the hard drive from hell.
It's been proven.
Rudy's right.
All the media was wrong.
Lying about it.
Covering for Hunter Biden.
Covering for Joe Biden.
About their compromise by the Chinese Communist Party.
All of it.
But I want to get to the heroic efforts of you, Mayor.
And tomorrow, The process goes to another level, right?
It goes to another level tomorrow, starting in Arizona.
And that's because of Doug Mastriano.
Having Rudy Giuliani come up to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, in the early days of this, I think it was in November, to start going through these 12, 14-hour presentations, then to go to Phoenix, then to go to Atlanta, Georgia, and make these presentations that now have led to, in Georgia, in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, in Wisconsin, and very soon in Michigan.
We're going to get to the bottom of this.
We're going to get to the absolute bottom of this.
Rudy, I want to, first off, Rudy, the nation owes you a great Debt of gratitude for being indefatigable, not backing off, hunkering down for the good of this country and the good of the Republic.
We're going to have Richard Barrison on in the second hour, the great pollster, talk about Biden's numbers.
Up on Capitol Hill right now, they're in a complete quandary in a meltdown.
And one of the reasons they realize they have zero political capital, because Biden's numbers have imploded, have imploded because of the way he's tried to execute on these radical policies.
But the reason these numbers are historic, unbelievable lows, is because he never started at the base that they said he did.
Rudy, on the eve of Arizona, walk us through this fight, really this crusade you've had to get to the bottom of 3 November and to be just relentless in it.
Tell us about what your thoughts are on the eve of Arizona, and where do we go from here when we start getting the receipts and start getting the facts that Arizona is going to provide, then Georgia, and then the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and Wisconsin?
rudy giuliani
Well, Steve, I mean, they can't accept, I was listening to Costa before, they just can't accept the fact That there was significant fraud in the election.
First of all, there's no doubt about that.
I mean, 500, 600, 700 affidavits, maybe a thousand witnesses, all different people.
You and I, we were confronted with that.
And what I was fighting for, and I continue to fight for, is a fair election, a democratically elected president.
And I was confronted with hundreds of people Coming to me and telling me they observe fraud.
I'm just, I'm a reporter of what they said.
It's not my opinion.
It's based on, you know, you've been to my house and I have a room full of affidavits from people from Pennsylvania, Arizona, Michigan, Georgia, American citizens.
I'd say at least 20% Democrat who say they saw all these various kinds of fraud.
The biggest one with the paper, The phony paper ballots, but all other kinds of fraud also.
Underage people voting who never voted, people from out of the state voting, people voting two or three times.
7,100 people showed up on election day in Pittsburgh and they were told they had voted already.
And that's not a few people, 7,100 people.
Of course they voted already.
Their name was attached to a phony ballot.
Same thing happened in Arizona.
Now, if they do a good job, all of this will come out.
And all you have to do is take out a pencil and paper and add up the amount of votes that were fraudulent.
And in every case in the states you mentioned, it would affect the margin.
It would mean that Trump actually had more votes than Biden in that state.
Now, I can't let that rest.
If I'm a good, a decent citizen, how can I let that rest?
They want to make me out whatever they want to.
I have to live with myself.
And they're a bunch of liars anyway.
I mean, Woodward, I know what Woodward does with his book.
You've written books.
They tell you to put things in there that are not true that'll sell the book or exaggerate things.
That's what they're doing now!
unidentified
They're a bunch of cheap punks!
steve bannon
Let me ask you about this book in that Bill Barr and Lindsey Graham are two of the characters in actually, one's in the Senate, obviously the other one's the Attorney General, they're some of the biggest voices telling Trump non-stop that Rudy doesn't know what he's talking about, there's nothing there, you lost, you lost basically in a landslide, you gotta give this up, you gotta be a good boy and just go along with this, and the President's fighting the entire time.
Let's say you know Bill Barr a long time, you know Lindsey Graham a long time.
rudy giuliani
I know Lindsey better than Bill Barr!
steve bannon
Why are they sitting there saying, Rudy doesn't know what he's talking about, there's nothing here, and there was not even, forget big fraud, they couldn't even see small fraud.
rudy giuliani
I can't, I mean I can't opine on the characters of other people.
I'm shocked at both of them.
I mean both of them I really admired Barr and then something happened to him.
Somebody's got to find out what happened to him.
I mean, the fact is he never investigated.
How would he know if there's fraud?
You'd bring it to a U.S.
attorney and they would not take it, like in Georgia.
But we had a whole situation in which we caught them burning ballots.
We tried to get the U.S.
attorney and the FBI to go stop it.
And we knew about it from other federal agents who told us.
And they wouldn't do it.
They let the ballots get burned 30 miles outside of Georgia.
That was the Trump-appointed U.S.
attorney and the FBI office.
I mean, the length and breadth of what they went to to take Trump out of office is probably the biggest story in American history.
steve bannon
Okay, and the opening chapter of the receipts will be tomorrow.
The discussion, all the hyperbole, everything will focus on Arizona, and then we'll go to the other states.
In the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, they're in a dogfight over these subpoenas in Georgia, the same way they're in the courts.
But in Georgia, you've got Raffensperger, you have Kemp, you've got Ducey.
These are all... I'm not naming any Democrats here.
I'm naming Republican Senators, Republican Attorney Generals.
So how's a rational audience supposed to think this is nothing but Steve Bannon and Rudy Giuliani and another group of wingnuts that just refuse to accept reality, refuse to accept defeat, sir?
rudy giuliani
You know what I would suggest they do?
Go get a tape of the hearing in Pennsylvania in front of Doug Mastroianni.
Listen to the eight or 10 witnesses who testify.
And then go to get the one in Michigan in particular, because I think those people were treated horribly.
And listen to them testify.
And then get some, maybe I'll put this on my podcast, put this on my site, and then get the two hearings in Georgia.
Listen to the young girl who comes in the first time she voted.
She walks in and they tell her she voted early.
And she starts crying because she was very excited about voting.
And we find out that they used her name on a phony ballot.
Now, there are thousands of these people.
Are they all lying?
I mean, do they all get together and lie?
You don't pay attention to these American citizens?
steve bannon
You just push them aside?
3,000 affidavits.
Professor Clements, who was a former prosecutor, David Clements, went through all of them.
He said at least a minimum of 2,000 raised the level of evidence in any court of law in this country.
2,000 of the affidavits of the 3,000 he went through.
There's been more since then.
This was five months ago.
He's correct?
unidentified
Absolutely correct.
rudy giuliani
Can you imagine the frustration that I had?
I hate to be a victim, but I've been practicing law all my life.
I prosecuted some of the most significant cases in the last century, right?
I believe in justice and fairness.
And I go before courts and they won't even have a hearing.
I mean, I was begging them, begging the police, just don't listen to me.
unidentified
Listen to your citizens of Pennsylvania or your citizens of Arizona.
rudy giuliani
That's why we went to the legislators.
And you know, the time that we lost fooling around with the courts really hurt us because we didn't start, it actually The hearing in Pennsylvania was right before Thanksgiving, maybe even a little after, because that's where I got COVID.
We really didn't get started until December with the hearings.
We should have started those right away, because it took time to convince the legislators in Arizona, for example.
First time I told them they have the right to review this and make the final decision, they didn't believe me.
They looked at me, you know, I'm just a state legislator.
I said, you have more power than Congress.
Look at Article 2, Section 1, Clause 2 of the Constitution.
steve bannon
Let's go to break and we'll come back, but I've got to tell you, you were convincing enough that legislators sent letters to Pence and to McConnell saying, we need to review, we need to send these back, we need to review the certification process.
That's what we're still talking about.
That's what 6th January was about.
When Mike Pence spit the bit.
Okay, we're gonna return.
Congressman Matt Salmon, Rudy Giuliani, next in The War Room.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, we've been lucky enough.
I've talked to America's mayor.
The Eliot Ness of his generation has put more bad guys away than anybody.
That would be Rudy Giuliani and one of the many, many, many heroes and one of the leaders, great leaders on 9-11 that really saved this country during some of its darkest days.
Gave stability when we needed stability.
He's agreed to stay on and co-host for this hour as long as we can get him holding.
This audience has changed the direction of history in this country many times, but this is the most important.
Right now, this radical spending plan.
It's $15 trillion minimum you're talking about.
Remember, you've got these guys jammed up.
They just admitted last night that if they have to do the debt ceiling separately, they run out of time.
We jammed him up by you going to the phones when we started explaining this.
Because all this nonsense about the 1.25 trillion infrastructure bill, the 3.5 human infrastructure, that's all nonsense.
That's lunacy.
It's crazy.
It's an orgy of spending.
The key is...
They've got to put a budget appropriations up now.
The continuing resolution is just a scam.
It's a get your attention away.
The bottom line is to run this government over the next 10 years, and this is not me saying this is independent outside assessment like Congressional Budget Office, Congressional Research, all these people look at.
We now have permanently, structurally, a trillion dollar deficit every year, every year for the next 10 years.
So you talk about raising the debt ceiling.
Don't listen to all this nonsense they're winding on TV.
The bottom line is where's that money going to come from?
If it's just going to be Treasury issuing bonds that the Fed's buying, that's you.
The Chinese buy government bonds.
We have taxes that are basically 17 to 19 percent of GDP.
The rest of it is you.
unidentified
You.
steve bannon
And you have a say-so.
That's why I say you're the debtor in possession lender.
You're the dip lender.
They need your authorization.
And now, they're in panic mode.
And they're saying everything.
Six million jobs.
Deep depression.
Blow up the capital markets.
The answer is, oh really?
Is that it?
Is that worse than $10 trillion just in running the government over the next 10 years?
Because you know it's going to be higher than that.
$10 trillion that we're signing off on, that's what we're doing.
Signing off on a structural $1 trillion a year, plus all this other madness, this orgy of spending.
You call investments just spending.
If you think it's investments, it's $28.3 trillion.
That's what the face amount of the debt is right now.
Look around our nation.
Why do you need a trillion dollar infrastructure bill?
Where's all the bridges?
Where are the great airports?
Where's the $28.3 trillion?
Where's it gone?
Where?
Show me.
Show me where it went.
I know we're 5 trillion, that's what we had to spend for the drop in aggregate demand on the CCP virus.
That money's in Beijing, and we gotta get it.
It's not the Chinese people, it's not the nation of China, it's the Chinese Communist Party, biggest transnational criminal organization in the history of mankind.
They have 5 trillion off that virus, minimum.
Navarro says it's 20 trillion.
I'll stick with the 5 that we had to spend, let's just go get it.
We got that first thing, you don't need an increase in the debt ceiling.
Where's the plan to get that instead of putting the burden on the American citizen?
The burden's always on the citizen of this country.
Now that you've got Mogadishu on the Rio Grande, right?
Because of Joe Biden.
You've got a terrorist super-state in Afghanistan because of Joe Biden.
You've got a, you've got a, our financial structure is, we're bankrupt.
The Secretary of Treasury tells us that.
We're going to default on government securities on the 15th of August.
That's from her.
And she's the only person to be head of the Fed and Treasury.
I think in the history of the Republic.
She told us that.
What does that mean?
You're bankrupt.
You need additional ability to borrow.
Okay?
That's what a debtor-in-possession lender is.
This is Wall Street 101.
You're a dip lender.
You're the committee.
Guess what?
We heard the plan for management.
We didn't like plan A. Now they're coming up with plan B. Let's hear it.
Come to the dip lenders.
Come to the citizens of the United States.
Let's hear what you got to say.
Have enough respect for people to talk about some details.
Not just, oh it's three trillion here, one and a half trillion here, ten.
You can't fund the basic government at a systemic deficit of one trillion dollars a year for the next ten years.
Look at your kids tonight.
Look at yourself tonight in a mirror.
You're going to go from a Russian serf, which you are today, that you don't own anything.
You're not going to own anything.
You're going to go to a debt slave.
Because this is predatory, what they're doing.
I want to turn now to former Congressman Matt Salmon, who used to be one of the big fighters in Congress on this topic every day.
So, Congressman, I know this is all music to you.
You've fought this for years.
But now you're running for governor of Arizona tomorrow on the eve of an explosion in Arizona as the receipts start to get put forward to the nation.
And I know you've got a lot to say about that.
I think you're putting out a statement.
Can you tell us what you're about to put out today?
unidentified
Absolutely.
I'm putting out a statement today saying, based on what we already know, what we expect we're going to learn tomorrow when the audit report is released here in Arizona, I'm calling on the state legislature to expand the audit statewide.
This is just Maricopa County.
We have 14 other counties in the state of Arizona.
We need to show the breadth and depth and width and everything of this fraud that's been perpetrated.
And I also believe that We also need to have a statewide canvas, because that will be conclusive.
We know, Steve, whatever happens, if we're going to try to contest this election, we know that it's going to probably end up in the courts at some point in time, and we need a lot more forensic evidence, and I believe that that has to be done.
The other thing that I'm putting in my statement Is that when I'm governor, I put out a 10 point plan to make sure that our elections are secure.
That first and foremost makes the ban on ballot harvesting permanent because in HR 1 they're trying to get rid of that.
And the second thing is that we have voter ID for every kind of ballot cast at the state of Arizona, whether it's in person or in mail ballots.
And I won't sign any other legislation until that legislation is passed because we've got to make sure that we can show the American people, the Arizona people, that our elections are secure and right now there's a lot of doubt.
steve bannon
Congressman Salmon, the sanctity of elections are, you know, we have to have those.
People have to believe in this process.
If you see evidence, hard evidence, coming out tomorrow, and as you want to expand it to Pima, Pinal, and the rest of the state, other counties, and as you're saying, hey, we got to get to the canvas, because Navarro says the canvas not the count, you got to get to a canvas, statewide canvas, to get to the bottom of exactly who voted.
If the evidence comes back, Would you support what Colonel Rogers and others are talking about, a process to begin the decertification of the electors of Arizona?
unidentified
If we're able to get to a point where we're able to prove conclusively through a statewide audit, and we can find that there has definitely been that kind of fraud perpetrated, then we need to follow whatever the Constitution allows us to do.
And if that's where it is, then that's where it is.
steve bannon
Congressman Salmon, how do people follow you on social media?
How did they get this statement?
You just released it, a Worm exclusive, and how do they find out more about your campaign?
unidentified
Well, they can find out more about my campaign by going mattsalmon4az.com.
That's F-O-R and Salmon.
It spells just like the fish, S-A-L-M-O-N.
But I just want to say, Steve, thank you so much for exposing all of this spending spree at the federal level.
We all know that the Federal Reserve, which by the way I believe is unconstitutional, and everything that Rand Paul's been calling for in audit of the Fed, that's the very least that should happen.
But we know that there's quantitative easing going on, and that's just basically printing money that we don't have.
And we also know that right now we're in a serious inflation situation.
We know that quantitative easing causes inflation.
And so what's happening right now with this spending like a bunch of drunken sailors on shore leave in Washington and then expecting the taxpayers to pick up the bill?
This is basically jeopardizing the future of our kids and our grandkids because we're leaving them with a hell of a debt to pay.
steve bannon
You agree, Congressman, you fought this for years up here, you agree that this is the hill we die on right now.
No continued resolution and no increase in the debt ceiling, correct?
unidentified
For once, I actually think McConnell's finally got a little bit of a spine.
I hope he keeps it, because if we give on this one, we're never going to be able to put the genie back in the bottle.
The fact is, this is the hill to die on.
When I was in Washington, I never voted for a debt ceiling increase.
And I believe that this is the hill to die on, because if we yield on this, then we're never going to catch up.
And the American people will hold the bag on this.
steve bannon
Amen.
Congressman, former Congressman Matt Salmon running now in the Republican primary, a tough one out in Arizona to be governor of that state.
Congressman Salmon, thank you very much for joining us in the War Room.
unidentified
Hey, thanks, Steve.
Thanks for everything you're doing.
And Giuliani, Mayor Giuliani, you are such a hero to me.
I'm so, so very, very thrilled to be on this program with you.
rudy giuliani
Thank you, Governor.
steve bannon
Thank you sir.
Rudy, I want to talk about Matt Salmon, what he just said.
Hey, he wants to expand it.
And Rudy, this is why this nation And I gotta be your PR guy because you're the most modest, humble guy I've ever met.
And you're dealing in a world with the Trumps and the Bannons, right?
So I gotta sing your praises.
unidentified
I gotta sing your praise. I gotta sing your praise. I gotta sing your praises.
You grinded it out there.
steve bannon
What do you think?
We got about a minute and we're going to hold you up.
What do you think about Matt Salmon saying, hey, if we start to see tomorrow from Maricopa County, you already got supervisors quitting because of the Great Worker Gateway Pundit and others.
If we got to expand to Pima, Pinal, the rest of the state, it's got to be a statewide canvas.
rudy giuliani
Yeah, I mean, I can tell them a couple of counties to start with.
Yeah, yeah.
Maricopa County was the core of it.
And, but there are maybe eight other counties in which the vote is completely, I shouldn't say completely, but the real questions, let's put it that way.
Serious questions, evidence, people have come forward.
Most of it is Maricopa, like 70%, but 30% is the rest of the state.
I think you remember a couple of them.
I mean, a couple of the counties were really, really significant evidence of phony paper ballots.
Dominion was, I think just in Maricopa.
So we're dealing with other, this isn't so much machine issues.
Arizona is not so much machine issues.
Arizona is paper ballot, and then a lot of outer city, underage, stuff like that.
But we're going over 100,000 there when we talk about the numbers.
steve bannon
Okay, let's go to a commercial break.
We're going to go to the border.
We're going to talk to a couple of the sheriffs.
We've got Kobach, who's backing the sheriffs.
We're going to find out Mogadishu on the Rio Grande.
This is another Biden debacle.
And they're lying to the American people.
They're looking you in the eye and lying.
They're saying the people are being deported back.
No.
They invited these people up here.
They've had them pay the cartels.
They've destroyed their lives.
Now they're trying to play three-card money.
There's nothing lower than this illegitimate regime of the Bidens, okay?
Be back with Rudy in a moment.
unidentified
War Room Pandemic with Stephen K Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host Stephen K Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, it's crumbling before our eyes, even as you see it, and this is because this audience... Go to the website, go to Worm.org, go up to the left-hand corner, type in your zip code.
It'll drop down about exactly the congressman that you should go to, but get your senators and congressmen.
If you need to, these Democrats in swing districts, we got the names up there.
Congressman Pramila Jayapal and she's the head of a 96 person progressive caucus.
This is the far left in the in the in the Democratic Party just announced.
We have been very clear that we are ready willing and able to vote for both bills, but we need to pass the popular build back better bill first.
That's a 3.5 trillion and then we will vote for the infrastructure bill.
We made a deal and we're sticking to it.
This is the orgy of spending the insanity of that other six Steve Morris at the six or seven trillion dollars.
But they're not getting to the heart of what they've got to take care of, and that's the $1 trillion a year.
That's where you've got them jammed up.
And they're running away from that.
This thing's crumbling before our eyes.
And remember, we're going to have Richard Barris on here in the second hour.
Biden's numbers are now at historic lows.
Historic lows among independents.
23% of independents in a great bellwether state of Iowa.
23% of independents support him.
Historic, historic loss.
No political capital.
You would need Lyndon Johnson with his landslide win or FDR with his landslide win to get these things through.
It has zero political capital, bled out all over Capitol Hill.
Okay, also, Peter Navarro's book, if you want to rejoin her to the Costa book, and if you want to see the inside baseball on the heroism of Rudy and what was accomplished, right?
To set the stage, to set the predicate for now, we're going to start to decertify these electors.
Write that down, MSNBC and CNN.
We're going to start to decertify these electors, okay?
Go on Amazon right now.
Pre-order by Navarro's book, In Trump Time, My Journal of America's Plague Year.
It's got Fauci, it's got all the election fraud, it's got everything.
It's the counter-argument, the counter-argument to Woodward and Costa.
Okay, let's go to the border.
This is one of the front-line heroes down there are the sheriffs in these counties.
I want to go to Kinney County and Sheriff Brad Coe.
Sheriff, thank you for calling in today.
Can you tell the nation right now in the world, because half our audience is global, what's exactly going on down on the border and how tough it is for you sheriffs to actually keep the peace down there?
unidentified
Well, good morning.
It's total chaos.
It seems like every DPS trooper in the state is along the border right now trying to do what Biden won't.
We're pulling together with DPS, Border Patrol, My gosh, we're having to sit along the border to try to keep our country free of an invasion, and that's exactly what it is.
They've got things so out of control on the border entry in Del Rio.
We're lucky that they haven't bum-rushed and tried to escape, because holding 10,000 people back, you can't do it with what's down there.
They're bringing in disease.
From what I hear, there's been a couple of confirmed cases of leprosy.
And what else do they have?
It's tasked by what few resources I have to try to keep the peace around here.
steve bannon
Sheriff Coe, here's what I think.
The hard-working Hispanic blue-collar folks in these counties in the Rio Grande Valley, how does the federal government, how does Biden expect to solve all the problems of the world?
We're not demonizing these folks from Haiti.
In fact, most of them went to Latin America, escaped Haiti years ago.
The Biden administration, by having open borders, had them sell everything they own in the world and give $10,000, $15,000, every penny they had in the world to the cartels to traffic up here.
So, but what about the Hispanic, the honest, hard-working citizens down in the Rio Grande Valley?
How are they?
The whole burden of this has been put on their shoulders, been put on your shoulders.
What's the response of the citizens in these counties?
unidentified
Well, the ones here in Kinney County, they're tired of it.
I mean, I hear from, of course, Kinney County is about 96% Hispanic.
And talking with them and people around here, they're tired of it.
And the sad part is there's not a whole lot as a sheriff.
I mean, once we whip, we're pulling together.
I mean, the sheriff, everybody, everything from El Paso down to McAllen, we're, we've got a coalition and we share information and tactics and resources to try to control this.
But the part that's, I don't know, the part, two parts that's under control, out of control, is the fact that the cartels, this is driven by the cartels, and I would say George Soros and crew, to push these people in here to try to change the dimension.
The schematics of the United States.
We're going to end up being a third world country, but a fourth world country because Biden wants to let them all in.
I don't have a problem with them coming up with people coming into the United States.
My in-laws are not our resident aliens, but they work their way up.
They work their way through.
They actually hardworking people.
And these bunch of these coming in, they're just here because they think the American dream is we come here, we find a city and we just sit around and collect money.
steve bannon
Sheriff, how can folks throughout the country have this?
How can we support Kenney County?
How can we support the sheriffs down there in Val Verde and Kenney and all you frontline things?
And how can we support the citizens, these hard-working blue-collar Hispanics in places like Kenney, who 96% of the thing is Hispanic Americans?
What can this country do?
Because Biden's not going to do it.
They're inviting more in.
What do you need as far as our support?
unidentified
It's time for the American people to stand up and pay attention to what's going on, not just in their own backyard, but on a national level.
I got a call the other day from DPS because they've got so many troopers down here.
Motel space is non-existent.
Everything's full.
And he was wanting to know how we could help.
So I put it out on Facebook.
I put it out to the people of Kinney County.
We've got troopers coming in.
They need a place to stay.
Ranchers and property owners called me and said, I can hold, I've got a hunt lodge that'll hold 30.
They're welcome to use it.
Or they've got 20 bunk beds and a hunt shack somewhere that they're welcome to use.
And people call in and tell me, well, I don't have much, but I've got a spare bedroom that I'm not using.
One's more than, you know, they're more than welcome to come here and stay for as long as they need.
And that's what we're seeing here in Keeney County.
And I think the rest of the country needs to kind of stand up and say, you know what?
We're tired of it.
Even the stuff in Afghanistan.
The people are tired of it.
They need a voice.
But we're being squashed down by the liberal press.
They're not wanting to report any of this.
steve bannon
Sheriff Coe, what's the Facebook?
How do people follow this on a moment by moment?
What's your Facebook?
Do you have social media?
People want to get, they want the facts, they want the truth, they want to support everybody down there.
How do people get access to it?
What's your Facebook?
Do you have other social media?
unidentified
The only one we have is Facebook and it's the Kinney County Sheriff's Office.
steve bannon
Kenny County, okay.
Sheriff Coe, we're going to come back to you.
Thank you, and just let everybody know, this is the largest, most powerful show on all media.
We have your back.
We have the sheriffs down there back, and the hard-working folks down in Kenny County, Val Verde, all up and down the Rio Grande Valley.
The nation is watching this, and we're going to have your back, and things are going to change.
unidentified
Well, thank you, sir.
steve bannon
Sheriff Brad Coe from Kenny County down in Texas.
Rudy, before I get Chris Coe back up, I want to go to Rudy.
Rudy, It's almost boggles the mind.
I mean, you've known Joe Biden for a long time, but this boggles the mind.
Is there any doubt in your mind, Mayor Giuliani, that this is an invasion of the United States, like Sheriff Coe just said?
Is there any doubt in your mind that this is an invasion?
rudy giuliani
I really don't understand how those people can do their job.
I mean, this is like an invasion of the United States, an invasion of Texas.
I mean, this is, at any one time, there are 14 or 15,000 people under that bridge, even with the Even with the photos that we see, and I realized this on September 11th, if you don't take a picture of the whole thing, you don't get an eye.
It's much bigger than what we're looking at.
That's like a portion of it that you're looking at on the screen now.
This goes on for a mile.
I mean, 15,000 people is bigger than a lot of cities in this country.
And it's 15,000 at any one time.
So probably already about 30,000 people have gone through there.
The other thing they're doing that's monstrous They're conning us, like the Biden administration, always.
They're sending them back to Haiti.
In one day, they've never sent 1,000 people back to Haiti.
It's like two planes.
You can only fit about 150 people on the plane.
So we're talking about 300, 400 people sent back every day.
Meanwhile, they're letting out into the United States at least 3,000 to 4,000 a day.
And they're going all the way up to the northern cities.
We don't even know where they're going.
steve bannon
Every town's a border town.
rudy giuliani
Yeah.
Also, every one of the places they're going has significant representation for the Mexican cartels.
The Mexican cartels are much bigger than we realize.
Remember the Colombian cartels.
The Mexican cartels are bigger, they're more extensive, they've got more money, and they're much more tied into the terrorists.
steve bannon
They've been working for ten They're business partners, they're business partners of the Biden Administration.
The Biden Administration, President Trump gutted the cartels because of the Romanian Mexico.
Biden's made human trafficking of these poor souls, he's made human trafficking a high margin business, bigger than drug trafficking.
That's what he's done.
All these people cashed out.
This is Biden is a partner of the cartels like he's a partner of the terrorist super state. He's a partner of the Taliban He's a partner of the cartels. This is what this feckless hapless old man got you. This is what happens elections have consequences Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences in America right now in the world of seeing the catastrophic consequences Rudy hang on for one second We're bringing Chris come back who knows more about this than anybody Chris, you just heard Sheriff Coe.
You've had the back of these sheriffs down there.
Give us your assessment, particularly Biden's lies about who's coming into the country and who's not.
Chris Kobach.
kris kobach
Yeah, thanks, Steve.
I want to give you three things that most people have not yet heard about.
Three pieces of evidence.
And let's draw a conclusion.
Number one, earlier this week, when the Biden administration first started sending airplanes back to Haiti with a small number of migrants, what happened?
Immediately, there was a southward surge across the river by the bridge.
As people suddenly got the impression, oh, no, they're deporting us.
Well, then in a couple days, they found out, oh, they're not deporting everyone.
They're just deporting a very small number of males, adult males.
Number two, two days ago, when Texas DPS and the sheriffs, like Sheriff Co, put their vehicles along the border, that immediately stopped incursions at that point.
That shows us that a show of force also Immediately stops people coming in.
So we have two things right there that show you all you have to do is take the right steps and people stop coming.
And number three, last month, a judge in the North District of Texas issued a nationwide injunction that is supposed to compel the Biden administration to put the remain in Mexico policy back in place.
The Biden administration announced three weeks ago, Oh, we're going to start thinking about it.
And we'll, we'll start talking to Mexico about it.
They don't need to have long discussions with Mexico.
They can do it right now.
That is the perfect excuse.
If the Biden administration needs to say something to its radical left wing, that, look, we have a court order.
We have to restart Remain in Mexico.
They could end this today by restarting Remain in Mexico and by following federal law, which says you have to deport or at least initiate deportation proceedings against every single person under that bridge.
It would end.
The crisis would be over.
What's our conclusion?
They don't want it to end.
All the Biden administration wants is for the cameras to go away so that we aren't seeing what's happening.
That is what's going on here.
unidentified
Chris, by the way, we want to have you hold through break.
steve bannon
Talk real quickly about this law.
You're representing the sheriffs.
We got about a minute.
Tell people how you're representing these sheriffs, like the hardworking guys in Kenney County, Val Verde.
kris kobach
Yes.
In fact, Sheriff Brad Coe and Kenney County are our lead plaintiffs.
We have a group of Seven counties and a group of sheriffs, as well as a group of ICE agents, we're suing the Biden administration to restart interior enforcement.
We're waiting for a preliminary injunction any day now.
If that preliminary injunction comes down, then interior enforcement will begin again.
ICE officers will be allowed to do their jobs.
They will be allowed to take custody of illegal alien criminals.
They won't have to release them onto the streets like the Biden administration is forcing them to do.
If you have that in combination with the other decision I just mentioned from August, restarting MPP, You could solve this problem if the Biden administration abides by those court orders, and of course one is hopefully pending.
So we have a solution, and indeed the Biden administration on its own could put a solution into place, but they just won't do it.
So anyway, yes, the lawsuit is being sponsored by the Alliance for Free Citizens, which is at allianceforfreesitizens.org.
steve bannon
Yeah, just hang on.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We've got Mayor Giuliani, we've got Chris Kobach.
We're going to be joined by Chief Eddie Gallagher all next in the War Room.
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steve bannon
Okay, when the balloon goes up tomorrow in Arizona, you're going to want to be on getter, because trust me, all those other social media guys are going to be trying to shut you down non-stop, because the receipts are going to start finally being put forward.
By the way, if you want to know anything about sovereignty of our country, if you want to know anything about immigration, and I mean legal and illegal, if you want to know any topic relating to that, Chris Kobach is the man, and he was going to have one of the biggest failures we had in the No question.
He could end it today if he wants to.
go back to be DHS. Trust me, that's not going to be a mistake that's going to be made in the second term.
kris kobach
Chris, tell people about this, about the organization, real quickly. Biden could end this right now if he wanted to, right? No doubt in your mind? No question. He could end it today if he wants to. All he has to do is follow the court order that is ordering him to reinstate the Remain in Mexico policy, allow ICE to begin deporting people again, eliminate his February 18th memorandum, and it would change instantly.
But so he could do that in a matter of hours.
But notice how quickly his team reacted when there was a Fox News drone.
That was something that made them jump to it because it's a higher priority for the Biden administration to quickly stop news coverage of what's happening than it is to actually stop what's happening.
They could end it today.
They don't want to.
steve bannon
We're going to be relentless.
We're going to be down there and telling the truth to the American people and let the American people decide.
Chris, how do people get to your organization to support you, back you, and get more information?
kris kobach
It's the Alliance for Free Citizens.
We've got on our website, we've got information about the lawsuit.
As soon as we have a decision on the preliminary injunction, we'll have that up on the website as well.
The briefing was completed on August 23rd.
It's www.AllianceForFreeCitizens, all spelled out, .org.
People can also follow me personally on my website, chriskobach.com, K-R-I-S-K-O-B-A-C-H dot com, and there are a lot of articles there as well.
steve bannon
What about social media?
Are you on Getter, Twitter, what?
kris kobach
Yeah, we are on Getter and Twitter.
Twitter is kobach1787, and I think it might be the same on Getter.
steve bannon
Chris, thank you.
A real warrior, a hero.
Chris Kobach.
Breaking news from Rasmussen.
Let's get this up.
Breaking news, ladies and gentlemen.
2024 National General Election Poll.
It's indicative.
Donald Trump, 51%.
Joe Biden, 41%.
That's a 10-point spread.
Donald Trump, 52%.
Kamala Harris, if she was the nominee, 39%.
That's a 13-point spread.
Just saying.
We're going to have Richard Barris on here to talk about the math of Joe Biden.
This is a complete freak.
He has no political capital.
This nonsense, he's up here on Capitol Hill with the $6 trillion on top of the other $10, $15, $16 trillion of spending to make you a debt slave, to make your children debt slaves, to make your grandchildren live in complete poverty, right?
That has no political capital.
None.
And we're not going to budge an inch.
I want everybody blasting.
I want to put them on blast.
Every congressman, every senator.
And not just call the thing.
I want you to send an email and get in their grill about this spending.
No on the CR.
No on the debt ceiling relief.
Rudy, we got so much to get to.
I know you're packed today.
I tell you what, we're going to have you back tomorrow to go through the Hunter stuff because it's too amazing.
Everything you said about the hard drive from hell is right.
Everything the media, all the lies they said about you are wrong and you find this out when you're with Rudy Giuliani.
Rudy Giuliani is a man of the highest moral character, but you know what?
He doesn't back down from a fight.
He's going to take it on, right?
Everything they say about him is a lie, and eventually it's proven true.
You're going to start seeing this in Arizona tomorrow.
The decertification process starts tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen.
Should have started back in January.
It's starting tomorrow, and I don't care if MNBC, you know, Rachel Maddow's punching out.
She wants out of here.
She's gone in April.
She's quitting, okay?
You know why she's quitting?
She understands exactly what they did.
Okay.
Rudy, talk to me, though, about Biden in this border.
You know, you're one that's always about the sovereignty of the United States.
Talk to me about it.
rudy giuliani
Well, first of all, you can't ignore the role of China in this.
It's a big role.
They've been in business with the cartels, I don't know how long, at least a decade, in bringing fentanyl into this country.
And that's a multi-billion dollar business and it's killing people, boom, like that.
And how much does Joe owe to China?
I mean, they basically own him and his family.
And you can see that.
You can see it from his UN speech.
You can see it from the ridiculous remarks.
They're not really in danger.
So there are a lot of reasons why Chris Kobach is right, and they don't want to solve this.
Plus, every one of these people they get in, they think of as somebody they can make a citizen or vote even if they're not a citizen.
I mean, every motive here is a bad one.
And it's destroying our border.
We don't have a border right now.
It's a joke if we say we have a border.
100,000 people come across, 200,000 people come across every month.
That's an invasion.
So we have basically an invasion of Texas.
And he's built a new city called Bidenville, as far as I'm concerned.
And it is third world.
And if there is a fourth world, these people are defecating, they're urinating.
I'm not surprised there's leprosy breaking out.
I mean, there could be other diseases that come as a result that's worse than COVID.
steve bannon
Rudy, can we, how do you get to your podcast?
How do people get to your radio show?
We got about a minute.
Let's walk through how we get to Rudy.
rudy giuliani
My podcast is RudysCommonSense.com.
Tomorrow, there'll be an intensive interview with the Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick of Texas, who's really on top of this and gives a really good overview of what's going on in Texas.
The state is being invaded.
They're being invaded by enemies of the United States.
Not all those people.
Most of those people, as you said, they were in other countries.
I mean, it's got to be mind boggling to them to be returned to Haiti.
They got out of Haiti 10 years ago and Biden is sending them back.
But interspersed with them, when you have 100,000 people coming over, you can stick in a lot of terrorists.
You can stick in a lot of drug dealers.
You can do a lot of child trafficking.
unidentified
They're having a field day with that.
rudy giuliani
Plus, all the attention given to Del Rio means that there's illegal crossings right across that border.
One thing has an impact.
This is the best thing that can happen for the cartels.
In other words, we're paying all of our attention to Del Rio.
unidentified
There's another 1,600 miles that are now not being really attended to.
steve bannon
Real quickly, on Twitter and Getter, what's your handles real quickly?
rudy giuliani
Rudy Giuliani.
On Twitter, Rudy Giuliani.
steve bannon
Okay, Rudy, thank you very much.
We're going to try to get you back.
rudy giuliani
Great job, sweet brother.
Great job.
steve bannon
Thanks, brother.
Short break.
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