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Episode 1,170 – Biden Administration has Caused a Travesty in AfghanistanEpisode 1,170 – Biden Administration has Caused a Travesty in Afghanistan
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, Okay, we're live.
steve bannon
It's Friday, 13 August, Year of Our Lord 2021.
You're in the War Room.
We've got a lot to get to today.
We're going to go to Texas, talk about the Senate voting to a full forensic audit.
We're going to talk about the Cyber Symposium.
We've got vaccines, Fauci, all of it.
But we've got to start with, and here's one of the reasons, the backbone of this full forensic audit movement, the backbone of our, one of the backbones of our Trump movement is veterans, and I gotta tell you what's happening in Afghanistan right now is a complete total travesty.
Okay, travesty.
An embarrassment, disgrace to the United States, to what we stand for, and also it's going to incite the Chinese Communist Party 1,000% to focus on moving on Taiwan right now because of the feckless, hapless, disgraceful Biden administration or Biden regime.
Headlines around the world today, Financial Times of London, Taliban offensive gathers pace as UK, United Kingdom sends troops to evacuate staff.
The Wall Street Journal, Biden adds up to 8,000 troops to help pull out in Afghanistan.
And of course, the New York Times headlines, US sends troops to aid evacuation as Taliban surges.
We've got combat veterans who served in Afghanistan, but I want to start With Eric Prince.
We're pulling him out of a meeting.
We just have him by phone.
Eric Prince came up with a plan in the spring and summer of 2017.
Presented to President Trump.
Absolutely the plan we should have gone with.
The incompetent generals lied to President Trump.
Forced their plan on him.
And here we are today.
Complete and total debacle.
Eric Prince set the framework for us.
What did you propose in 2017?
It was not carried out.
The same corrupt and incompetent national security group.
You've got the Pentagon.
You've got the CIA.
They're completely hapless, totally hapless, and they're cowards because they're going to abandon this.
We're going to have 30 million.
In Saigon, when the Democrats ran away, 30 million people died, right, in the region.
You're going to have the same debacle here, a stain on American pride and American honor.
Eric Prince.
unidentified
Morning, Steve.
Thanks for having me.
This time period will be remembered as a very dark time.
I hope not even a catalyst of darker times to come in America, because seeing us abandon completely an ally and kind of walking away, it means all the blood, all the sacrifice, all the money that we put in there has been absolutely squandered.
People that say, thank you for your service and thanks for serving the military, If you really mean that, then you should demand better.
Demand better from the leadership, from the national security clique, and the generals that are in Washington, because they've been given unlimited resources for the last 20 years, and they've squandered it.
It's truly a house of cards.
The U.S.
military tried to replicate itself in Afghanistan, on a 90% illiterate population, with the predictable results.
And, you know, yesterday, the Jen Psaki A spokesperson for Biden was pleading with the Taliban to not mess with our embassy so that the U.S.
embassy could continue to give financial aid to a Taliban-run government.
It's appease, appease, appease, and then say please, please, please.
The U.S.
government walking out of Afghanistan like they abandoned Bagram Air Force Base, our largest facility in the country, is almost like a Hunter Biden bad one-night stand slipping out the back door.
It will have really bad effects for the entire region.
Unlike Iraq, there's a lot of places, there's a lot of sanctuary where a lot of different terror pockets can live, they can fund themselves off of drugs, off of the mineral trade that is there.
We have not heard the last of Afghanistan, unfortunately.
It's right to end wars, but for God's sakes, do it in a clever way.
steve bannon
This is the key point.
We are the America First wing of American politics.
We want to end because we're veterans.
All these veterans there.
We have Sean Parnell, Scotty Neal, Captain Seth Keschel talking about it.
All served in Afghanistan.
This is not about the forever wars.
But when you do it, you got to do it smart.
You got to do it tough.
Okay?
This is ridiculous.
Eric, I know you got to jump back to me.
One last thing.
If you're President Xi in Beijing right now, and you're seeing the Biden administration, the Biden regime, which is completely hapless, what are you thinking about moving on Taiwan?
What would you think about the South China Sea and Taiwan today as you see this complete, total disgrace and debacle in Afghanistan?
unidentified
The U.S.
is demonstrating in bright, vivid color that we are an unreliable ally.
If I was a Taiwanese, I would load up a 747 full of cash And fly to India or Pakistan and make a deal and buy three nuclear weapons.
Because only nuclear weapons, they will learn, are a reliable deterrent.
The same for Australia.
If Australia believes that the United States is a reliable ally, I don't know.
They should have pause.
They should seek their own nuclear deterrence capability because it's ultimately a great lesson that people are responsible for defending themselves.
steve bannon
Eric Prince, thank you very much for joining us.
Really appreciate you stepping on the meeting to do that.
I want to bring in now Sean Parnell.
Sean Parnell is running for the Senate in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
He led a platoon, infantry platoon, in the longest deployment in the history of what the 20-year war in Afghanistan.
Sean Parnell, Sean, what are your thoughts today?
You're not a forever war guy.
You served over there.
But tell us what your thoughts are today about your men.
You're one of the three November guys.
You've got to get to a full forensic audit.
You sat there and your men sacrificed to make sure they actually have elections.
Give me your description of what you and your men think about what's happening in Afghanistan now with what America's doing and Biden's doing.
unidentified
What's happening, Steve, what's happening in Afghanistan now is tragic and it was avoidable.
I mean, what the heck have these generals been doing since we killed Osama bin Laden for damn near a decade, right?
What have they been doing?
Have they planned a withdrawal strategy?
We saw how they all but abandoned Bagram.
They didn't battle hand over it and give it to the Afghan National Army.
They abandoned it to looters.
And so, My men, for 485 days, led the ground red in Afghanistan.
For me, watching our generals for the last seven months, they've been more focused on debating the merits of critical race theory on Capitol Hill, or engaging in Twitter fights with American citizens, more focused on fighting Tucker Carlson than the freaking Taliban.
This is why I always say, Steve, when America sends our sons and daughters into the fight, we have a moral obligation to win.
Because if we don't, and we're not singularly focused on the mission, we're going to end up in a situation like we're in right now in Afghanistan, where you have an entire generation of American warriors wondering what it was all for.
And so, Steve, the way that Joe Biden is going about doing this is very important to acknowledge.
It's different than President Trump's withdrawal.
President Trump had a phased withdrawal where certain conditions had to be met in the battlefield in order to move on to the next phase.
President Trump was engaged with regional leaders.
Joe Biden has been president for seven months and he still hasn't even talked to the Prime Minister of Pakistan.
In fact, Joe Biden's on vacation in Delaware right now as Afghanistan collapses.
I think one of the most egregious things that Joe Biden is doing and people all across the country and politicians on the left and the right are asking, How could this happen?
This is a massive intelligence failure.
Well, Joe Biden moved our withdrawal date from May back to September.
And why does that matter?
Because it gave the Taliban the time, space, the opportunity to consolidate and organize an attack on the country.
And so, Joe Biden totally failed our troops, and he totally failed this country.
And I'm telling you, the Democrats and the media, I'm so fired up about this, because they spent four years telling us how Trump embarrassed this country on the world stage, which was total nonsense, by the way.
How do you think this debacle in Afghanistan plays out for America on the world stage?
You think that this might be a little bit of an embarrassment to our troops and our country?
Yeah, I think so.
steve bannon
Not just that.
Mike Pompeo said it yesterday.
Weakness brings the bad guys out.
And you look at the South China Sea.
You look at Taiwan right now.
Eric Prince just said it.
If I'm the Taiwanese, I said, hey, look what Biden does.
They'll just cut you loose and look the other way.
This is the fall of Saigon, what the Democrats did.
As soon as the draft was over, they couldn't wait to get out.
Once they got out, 30 million people in the region.
Real quickly, Sean, conditions based.
Trump's withdrawal, by the way, Eric Prince had the plan that President Trump wanted to do, but even when he went with the generals, is condition-based withdrawal.
Real quickly, tell people why that's so important and why Biden just walked out, turned Bagram right over to the bad guys, snuck out in the middle of the night.
What was conditions-based?
unidentified
Yeah, Joe Biden cut sling load and ran.
He just left.
Again, we abandoned Bagram Air Force Base, which is one of the few landing strips in Afghanistan.
We left.
We didn't give it to the Afghan National Army.
We didn't give it to the military.
We turned it over to looters.
A conditions-based withdrawal is making sure that your ground troops are postured in a way that they can thwart any enemy offensive.
It's making sure that they have the supplies, you know, the beans and the bullets that they need to stop an enemy offensive.
It's making sure that their supply chain logistics are ready to go as we draw down.
It's making sure that regional partners are ready to step in on a moment's notice if the Taliban are advancing in an uncontrolled way.
Look, the Taliban, The Taliban, we invested $88 billion in the Afghan National Army and the Afghan National Army collapsed on itself in a month because we just cut sling, we just ran away.
We threw them to the wolves.
And so what the Biden administration has done here in Afghanistan And I would argue, largely, geopolitically, in the area, it is a travesty that will last for generations to come.
And the American people, I mean, they shouldn't tolerate this.
They shouldn't tolerate this.
steve bannon
This is why we've got this full forensic audit.
It's going to get to the bottom of 3 November.
This is outrageous.
Sean, I know you're going to take the heat to Conor Lamb and Fetterman.
How do people get to follow your campaign?
How do they find out more about you?
unidentified
Look, go to ParnellForSenate.com, join the movement, chip in, get in the fight.
You're seeing what's happening.
Our border is flooded, our taxes are riding, we've got a $3 trillion deficit, $30 trillion in debt, Afghanistan is collapsing.
This country is on the brink.
We stand on a very thin line between hope and darkness, and we need more leaders in Washington And fewer politicians.
And I'm one of those leaders.
We're going to win this primary.
We're going to win the general election.
We're going to win Pennsylvania and save America.
So go to ParnellForSenate.com and join the movement and help me do it.
steve bannon
Sean Parnell, the longest combat deployment in the history of the Afghan war, which is, what, 20 years?
Sean Parnell, thank you very much.
You're a patriot.
Honored to have you on the show.
Okay, I want to go back now, a guy that's been on the show before, another warrior who was there at the beginning, okay?
Scotty Neal, one of the special operators that went in early on in 2001, 2002.
Scotty, Talk to us, what are your thoughts today, sir, when you were there, when we actually took this thing and had it under control, seeing what's happening today, and what impact is this going to have on the American people and American soldiers?
unidentified
Well, I think, you know, it's just disheartening, and there's a lot of shock, but there's a lot of tea leaves that have been said for years, building up that this was going to happen, quite frankly.
When we first went in, we had a very clear and focused military mission.
A small group of special operators enabled by the rest of the military force overthrew the Taliban government, displaced Al-Qaeda, and we then spent, what, 10 years before Petraeus, you know, said we needed a surge?
You know, basically denying the capability of Al-Qaeda and other, you know, terrorist threats for using Afghanistan as some kind of base of operations to then launch attacks across the The globe into America.
Here we are 20 years later.
My son has fought in Afghanistan last year, and there's this big, empty sense of utter disappointment.
steve bannon
Scotty, let me ask you, what kind of impact is this going to have?
We only got 30 seconds and we'll bring you back after the break.
What kind of impact in the region is this going to have on America?
People think we can just cut and run away, and we're America First guys, we don't want the forever wars, but talk to us, give us 30 seconds on impact in the region.
unidentified
Well, it's truthful, because if you look since Vietnam War, America has either tried to stay too long, Or has tried to leave a big gap.
I think America needs to reflect on its strategy, its national policy, and find the true experts that need to help guide America through this problem.
steve bannon
Scotty, just hang on.
We're gonna take a short commercial break.
Scotty Neal, one of the original special operators who went in in 2001 and 2002 right after 9-11 to clean the mess up, okay?
President Trump wanted to end the forever wars.
This is not the way you do it.
You don't cut and run, okay?
It's a disgrace.
It's got massive, massive impact geopolitically.
unidentified
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steve bannon
Okay, we have a country spinning out of control.
This is not War Room and Steve Bannon, hair on fire, you know, run around ranting.
No.
This country's out of control.
World Press is telling you that.
You talk to people throughout the world, talk to the hedge fund guys, talk to these leaders in Europe, South America.
This country is now spinning out of control because of a regime, a Biden regime, that is not legitimate.
Sorry.
Trump won.
Okay?
I hate to be so brutally frank about things.
And this is what you get when you get something crammed down your throat that is hapless, feckless, and a disgrace.
What's happening in Afghanistan is broader.
It speaks to bigger themes of what's happening on the southern border, what's happening with the finances.
They're sitting up here in this city passing outrageous spending bills.
Supposedly for infrastructure, it's all this crazed new deal that nothing kind of hangs together, and they don't have the permission of the people on the debt ceiling.
Remember, you're leveraging the debt ceiling.
They don't get one penny.
Not one penny.
And in 1.2 trillion, in the next 3.5 trillion, you added up, what, 4, 5, 6 trillion dollars of spending?
Not one penny for the wall?
Are you kidding me?
This is an outrage.
I want to go to Scotty Neal.
Scotty, I want to get you back on, we can get you on Skype, but I just got to ask you, if you were with Biden this morning, what would you tell him the two or three things he has to do now to stop this complete implosion in Afghanistan, sir?
unidentified
Well, you have to think of a short-term, mid-term, and long-term.
Short-term is we actually need to go back in very forcefully and establish dominance.
We need air control and air cover.
This becomes a checkpoint war.
How the Taliban won very quickly is they started from nowhere but everywhere.
They were already in the communities.
They now rallied and taken arms.
The only thing you could do is ask the average Afghan to fight, not flee, but you've got to stand and fight.
Next is, what do you want out of Afghanistan?
And what do you want out of the embassy that's there to do something?
The visa process is taking years upon years upon years for these interpreters.
I've heard everybody else speak about it.
We get calls constantly, all day, every day, about the horrors that are going to go on.
We've got to fix the State Department process for the true political refugees, not some false applications on the border.
You know, next, long term, is America needs to have a conversation, not from the beltway, not at the academies, about what was right in Afghanistan, in the Middle East, and what went wrong, and we've got to fix it.
We've got to fix it now sooner than later or else our military will now degrade and the world will see us as helpless and hapless.
steve bannon
Scotty, how do people get to you?
What's your social media?
What's your website?
unidentified
Well, really, I don't have a social media.
I've been a very quiet professional for a long time.
I think those that know me know how to get a hold of us, but there needs to be smaller think groups outside of Washington, D.C.
That puts some solutions forward that the Biden administration needs to listen to.
steve bannon
Scotty, thank you so much.
Honor having you on here.
You were there at the beginning of the fight and actually were one of the victors.
Incredible, incredible courage.
By the way, that's what, this is so important.
We're going to talk about these four forensic audits.
Got Seth Kessler on here who was in Afghanistan.
This movement is a movement of veterans.
It's now time for every veteran in the audience, if you're not engaged in this, it's time to get engaged.
Or this thing's going to spin out of control where you're not going to be able to get it back.
Okay?
I want to bring in now Steve Toth.
State Representative, 15th District in Texas, one of the leaders of getting down to the bottom of full forensic audit.
Steve, before I ask, tell me about your thoughts on Afghanistan before I talk about the full forensic audits.
unidentified
Yeah, you bet.
I'm Chairman of the Board of Muddy Oaks Programs.
We help veterans with PTSD and one of my closest friends in the whole world, his name is Chad Robichaud.
He's a Force Recon Marine.
His life was saved countless times along with multiple Special Forces guys by a guy by the name of, we'll call him Bashir.
Bashir is being abandoned over there.
This is a guy that has saved lives.
This is a guy that helped us advance the effort over there.
And Mr. Biden has just turned his back on Bashir.
And many guys like him, Steve, they're being screwed over by this ridiculous pullout.
I am not a forever war guy either.
I supported what President Trump wanted to do.
But my God, what Biden is doing is an absolute travesty.
It's evil.
steve bannon
By the way, geopolitically, it's going to put us in the bind.
The Chinese Communist Party is sitting right there.
It's not about them getting involved in Afghanistan.
That's secondary.
They're looking right now at Taiwan and said, hey, these guys are so gutless, have no courage, no discernment.
Why would we move on it right now?
Go ahead, Steve.
unidentified
China is bringing the US economy to its knees, to its weakest point.
They're withholding products from us, which is driving up inflation at record amounts.
They're going to absolutely crater our economy, and Biden is allowing it.
And when we're at our weakest point, that's when they're going to move on Taiwan.
And we're doing nothing.
steve bannon
Steve, let me ask you, given all that, given everything that's happened in the world, the Chinese Communist Party, the economy, Biden's out of control of the economy, you got Afghanistan, the geopolitics of it, the global finance of it, what's happened to inflation out of control for working class people, why are you spending your time focused on getting a full forensic audit in the state of Texas?
Why is that a priority?
Why is it important for you, you feel, to get to the bottom of a state that Donald Trump won kind of going away?
unidentified
Because we don't want a sock puppet It's President of the United States.
The United States is not being run by Joe Biden right now.
He is a sock puppet.
This is a kabuki theater for George Soros, the Clintons.
I don't know who's honestly calling the shots there, but it sure isn't hapless Joe Biden.
The guy's a mess.
He can't even put one coherent sentence together.
steve bannon
And so how does how does getting it has a full forensic audit, what you've been pushing for in Texas?
How does that going to help us get to the bottom of all this?
unidentified
We've got to find out what went wrong in this election.
And we know you can go back to 2018.
Go back to 2016, Steve, when when the Democrats said Russia, Russia, Russia, and they were convinced that that Vladimir Putin stole the election.
For Donald Trump.
Well, that's what the Democrats said.
They spent three and a half years, spent tens of millions of dollars trying to prove it.
Didn't prove anything.
But here we are.
Go jump ahead two years to 2018.
We know in a congressional race that that included Pete Sessions, that there was voter fraud in that race digitally.
And we're starting to find out now in 2020 that there was a lot of paper fraud in the state of Texas, as well as registration fraud.
We've got to get to the bottom of this.
We've got people that don't trust the election system in Texas anymore.
We've got to get to the bottom of this.
steve bannon
How can people support your cause?
Tell me what people need to do.
This is an activist audience.
People are more fired up about this than they understand.
Getting this jam with this Biden regime right now with the country spinning out of control.
Something happened on November 3rd.
They want to get to the bottom of it and they want to get to the bottom of it in every 50 states.
I'm a big believer.
You get to the bottom of Texas, and this is why I love the fact we're doing something where Trump won.
You're going to see in the Rio Grande Valley, I think we won bigger down there than how Trump did.
I think there's a couple other House seats.
And I think this is why Henry Gonzalez and these Democrats in South Texas are worried.
There's a lot more pickup.
In Harris County, in Houston, a complete disaster and nightmare.
You've got to get to the bottom of it.
So Steve, how can people support your cause?
What do they need to do today?
unidentified
Call your state representative.
Call your state senator.
Ask them to get on board.
Ask them to lead.
Not just to co-author or sponsor the bill.
Ask for their voice.
Tell them that they need to stand up or we're going to lose our nation.
steve bannon
Steve, what's your social media?
How do people follow you?
unidentified
Toth4Texas on Facebook as well as Twitter.
Toth4Texas.
steve bannon
You're a fighter.
That's why we love you in the war room.
Steve Toth, thank you very much, sir, for joining us this morning.
Okay, I want to bring in now, do we have Seth Keschel?
Captain Keschel.
Captain, before I get to, you're one of the leaders of this full forensic audit movement.
I want to get your thoughts about Texas and other things.
Before I do that, you served in Afghanistan.
I know you're as worked up as all the vets, and that's what I tell people.
Any vet that hears this, And any vet that hears this, go get your other vet friends.
You are one of the key backbones of the Trump movement, and now more than ever, we need vets.
There's a cyber symposium, I bet 50% of the people are vets.
We need more veterans to sign up and become part of this movement.
If you've never had anything to do with politics, your voice is needed.
Your courage is needed right now.
Seth Kessel, tell me about Afghanistan, or your thoughts about the Biden regime.
seth keshel
Well, so Afghanistan has been a train wreck for 20 years.
Obviously, the full fruit of that is becoming obvious to everyone.
But, just like Ronald Reagan said, they know so much that it's just not true.
You know, the Army has its own doctor machines.
Fort Huachuca swears by this strategy, counterinsurgency coin.
Well, successful, like Sean Parnell said, a successful transition out of Afghanistan is going to equip the Afghan National Army, Afghan National Police, to be able to do its job without coalition forces there taking the bullets.
You can see, I mean, going back to my time in Afghanistan 2010-2011, I was fortunate to be trained by some outstanding intelligence professionals like Sergeant First Class Brent Head, Captain now Major Brian Colano, that really schooled me up and made me into the officer I became.
But we could see back then, 10-11 years ago, the Afghan National Police would claim that they'd expended rounds in firefights with the Taliban and go back to their to their police stations and get replenished with ammunition and continue to sell off this ammunition to the Taliban.
We had coalition partners giving away communications equipment to ensure that it was the United States being shot at and not themselves when they were on patrol.
So you have this culture of instability that ensured even 10 years ago when I was there and certainly before some of the early days of Afghanistan that this solution would never actually come into play.
So we're sending folks over there to get their legs blown off Come back, we have dozens of veterans every day committing suicide because there's no sense of purpose in a war that we absolutely cannot win.
Counterinsurgencies on a continent, I mean this is Afghanistan the size of Texas, counterinsurgencies anywhere not on an island are historically not successful.
You can't use the Navy to keep personnel and to keep weapons out of a country, you're basically wasting your time.
We didn't even kill bin Laden in Afghanistan, we had to go into Pakistan to get him.
So the people that we are mowing down there are basically pawns on the chessboard causing us to spend decades, blood and treasure over nothing.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Seth and Captain Kestrel, hang on.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
I want to tell you, you're one of the leaders in this full forensic audit.
We're going to have Ken Paxson in Texas.
We're going to have Seth Kestrel from Texas from the end of the Cyber Symposium.
But what's happening on this full forensic audit in all 50 states.
The Patriots over there at the Telegram site.
The America First Audit channel.
The American First Audit chat room.
You get it all.
Okay, we're back in a moment talking about full forensic audits across this country and Ken Paxson from Texas.
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I'm going to go back to Captain Seth Kessel.
Captain, you've gotten back and forth with one of Abbott's guys the other day, and you've kind of made your case.
Why is a full forensic audit in Texas, in your mind, so important?
And why do you think Governor Abbott supported this is so important?
seth keshel
First and foremost, President Trump's gains in the heavily Hispanic areas of South Texas, West Texas, El Paso, Rio Grande Valley, which also extends that vote, impacts significantly Bexar County, Harris County, Those are not in line.
The final result, five and a half point margin in Texas with Trump's known gains with the Hispanic working class, don't work out, especially when I show his gains in the suburban counties of Texas, which are leaps and bounds ahead of those gains made by Mitt Romney or John McCain and also Trump's first run in 2016.
We have all kinds of issues.
You know, Texas is a state that's 88% urban and suburban in its votes.
So people that have this opinion of Texas that it's like Wyoming, they're not exactly on point.
So the endorsement of someone like Greg Abbott in a state that's full of center-right Republicans, moderate Republicans, tax-cut Republicans, is going to go a long way in getting these cards put on the table.
The media has sown this narrative for over 10 years that Texas is becoming a battleground, but I'm telling you, Donald Trump's performance, just in terms of raw votes gained and where he gained them, does not suggest that Texas is trending towards battleground status.
It actually suggests that Texas is being pushed back out towards mid-teens Republican victory territory.
Of course, we had the Texas House up for grabs this year.
A lot of the reps were very concerned that the Republicans would even be able to hold a majority.
I believe they have 86 seats right now.
But there's been some issues here in the last four years.
Beto Mania in 2018, the first time that they got over 4 million votes.
They were stuck in the 3 million threshold for several election cycles, beginning with Obama in 2008, going all the way through Clinton in 2016, and now Biden.
Not only did Biden and O'Rourke get over the 4 million number, Biden's at 5.3 million in one election cycle with Trump's gains.
So these numbers absolutely don't add up.
And down ballot, they've given some of the most incompetent elected officials in America a career.
So Lena Hidalgo is a judge from Harris County, absolutely incompetent and most likely elected via fraudulent means.
And also Judge KP George out of Fort Bend County with some of the most heavy-handed mandates, now going for masks in the schools, probably, according to the research of Kristen Martin, elected by fraud as well.
steve bannon
I gotta tell you, you see that, one of the major parts of this Trump movement are working class Hispanics, particularly down the Rio Grande Valley, South Texas.
I 100% agree with you.
Get a full forensic audit, people are gonna be shocked.
We think we got a lot of support now from those numbers on the surface, you're gonna be shocked.
The support's even deeper.
Seth, you're also an example of a guy that served in Afghanistan in combat a decade ago is back to serve your country today.
I need every veteran to take people like Sean Parnell and Captain Seth Keschel as examples.
Every veteran.
You don't have an excuse.
You took an oath.
That oath is in perpetuity.
Okay?
You got to put your shoulder to the wheel.
Every veteran in this audience, use Parnell and Seth Keschel.
As an example.
Seth, how do people track you down?
I know over at Telegram, you guys are on fire.
You and Dave Clements.
How do people track you down?
What's your social media?
seth keshel
Telegram channel is at Real S Keschel.
And of course, the America First Audits, that's using the search engine.
Every state is now represented.
So yes, veterans, absolutely.
Put that resiliency that you have to use, put it to good for the use of your country, and you're never going to have anything to regret.
steve bannon
250,000 folks now are into the telegram.
I can't speak highly enough about what you guys are doing over there.
And all the pages, 250, a quarter of a million folks have come in basically in the last couple of weeks.
All for free, put in the shoulder of your will.
Captain Cashwell, thank you very much.
Look forward to having you back on here.
We can go through your presentation the other day in more detail.
Thank you very much.
seth keshel
Absolutely.
steve bannon
I want to bring in now the Attorney General for the state of Texas, Ken Paxson.
We've got so much to go through, Ken.
But first off, this full forensic audit movement that's starting to catch fire nationwide, but particularly people are talking about Texas and opportunities to really get down to the bottom of what happened on 3 November.
And they think that, hey, as much as the hard-working Blue Cod Hispanics came out, there's a lot more there, particularly in Harris County and other parts.
What are your thoughts on that as Attorney General of Texas?
unidentified
I think it is a great idea.
I know Representative Steve Toth from the Harris County Area Woodlands has proposed it.
Because we're in special session, the governor would have to add it to the call.
That's the only way the state could actually vote on these representatives.
So, I don't see what the downside is.
Why not know?
You know, businesses do audits all of the time.
They do it to make sure there's not fraud.
Even if it turns out that there's not, they do it on a regular basis.
I don't know why we wouldn't, as a state, With something as important as voting, why we wouldn't do it on a regular basis?
steve bannon
Ken, I gotta ask you a question about the special session, and I think this is what folks around the country don't understand.
Understand that folks in Texas, I got so many friends and business partners down there, the pride you guys take in your state, the pride you take in your heritage, the pride you take in things like the Alamo, and the war for your own independence, right?
The pride of what people say, because Texas kind of even stands out.
I'm from Virginia, but man, I gotta tell you, the Texas pride of being Texan is something else.
These Democrats that ran away.
Walk me through what's going to happen here.
I see what these judges are ordering, but it's kind of confusing.
Are you guys going to round these guys up and arrest them or get them back in session?
Just tell the nation what's going to happen.
unidentified
Yeah, you're right.
It is confusing because this isn't supposed to happen.
It hasn't happened very often.
Obviously, you know, they left.
Some of them are still gone.
The Democrats filed for a temporary restraining order to stop Abbott from executing on a call by the Speaker to bring them back.
We won that at the Texas Supreme Court a couple days ago.
So now, if they are in Texas, they can be arrested and put in custody and taken to the Capitol.
They're not being put in jail.
They're being taken to the Capitol, where they will then be locked into the House floor.
As far as I know, they haven't rounded up enough for quorum.
The Senate has done their work again in another special session.
This is our second special session trying to address election integrity.
And the Democrats are still, some of them are still outstanding.
steve bannon
Let me just understand this.
You're telling me, so the country understands that you're having to round these folks up and bring them in to make them do their duty and their obligation as representatives, state senators or representatives in Texas.
You're having to round these folks up?
unidentified
Yeah, incredibly frustrating, given that it's a minority of the legislature.
So they are basically imposing their will.
on the legislature, which is we're not going to vote on something we don't want to vote on.
So we're not showing up. So the rest of the legislature, also elected by people, can't get there. They don't have the opportunity to propose bills and vote on what they want to vote on.
steve bannon
We've got limited time.
There's so much I want to go through with you, but I've got to ask about the mask mandates and what you and Governor Abbott are doing down there.
It looks like another fiasco from Washington, D.C.
You hear one thing one day, then another thing, then another day.
Now the vaccines work, maybe the vaccines don't work.
A place like, it's not the worm, like the Mayo Clinic's coming out and saying, hey, we don't know what the percentage of this works against the new variants.
You've got open border by Biden down there, people just blown across.
that have got the Delta variant and others.
So what's going on with the masks?
What are you guys doing down there on these mask mandates?
And particularly, we call it August 15th, when school starts coming back, it's going to be a firestorm.
So what's going on and what are you guys doing about it?
unidentified
Yeah, so the governor put out an executive order, which he's authorized to do by the legislature under the Disaster Act.
And he basically said government can't require masks.
And unfortunately, now we've got Dallas County, Clay Jenkins, we've got We've got school districts all over the state.
We've got mayors, Mayor Sylvester Turnbull.
We're looking at the law and saying, look, we don't like the law.
We don't care if the elected representatives of the state put it in place.
We're not doing it.
This is our decision.
And we're creating all these little individual sort of kings in different parts of the state.
So we're in many, many lawsuits right now trying to stop these local entities from imposing their will on the state of Texas.
steve bannon
Ken, I've got to ask you this.
I think the very first guest we had on here after Biden's, after the non-inaugural, you know, nobody showed up on the 20th of January, I think the very first guy we had in the next morning, and you were going to be at the forefront, said, hey, we'll work with Biden where it's constitutional, but we're going to confront it where it's not constitutional.
And you were, next thing you knew, in a bunch of lawsuits.
Did you ever believe, though, at that time that it'd be spinning this much out of control in, what, seven, eight, nine months that we're seeing today on every aspect of what the Biden administration is putting their hands on?
Did you ever think it would get this bad?
unidentified
No, I did not.
I hoped that maybe Biden would be a little more reasonable than Obama.
It's just the opposite.
As a matter of fact, I'm convinced that because Obama was stopped after two years when he lost Congress, and we sued him and stopped him from implementing his own little edicts, That they have decided to speed that process up, and that's what they're doing with Biden.
I don't think Biden knows what's going on completely, but I do think that there are people behind him who are like, let's just accelerate this as fast as we can, create as much chaos as we can, and get everything done that we want done.
We can take over elections.
We'll take over the border.
We'll take over the economy.
We will do our best to take over health care, and we'll control the nation.
I think their ultimate goal is a one-party system.
steve bannon
Ken, what's the social media?
How do people track you down?
How do they follow you?
unidentified
At KenPaxsonTX for Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook, and then KenPaxson.com for the website.
steve bannon
You're fighting the good fight.
It's been very interesting how you've had so many called shots, so thank you very much, sir, for joining us.
Ken Paxson, President Trump endorsed him.
He's a Trump-endorsed Attorney General, tip of the spear down there.
I want to bring in now Jason Miller, former co-host here.
Hey, Jason, I know we had a long talk before we went together and, you know, you're kind of leaving politics beside when he went there, but one of the reasons you want to do it is provide a platform, not just in the United States and not just for Trump people, but for everybody, that you have free debates.
But I got to ask you, you know, you were the guy for Ted Cruz before he came to President Trump.
Did you ever think in a million years, in nine months, you'd see this much chaos?
And I don't care if you're talking about what they're doing in the economy and inflation, I don't care if you're talking about the finances and this out of control, not just spending, how are you going to finance it?
The pressure on the dollar, backing off of the Chinese Communist Party, being pushed around everything, the debacle in Afghanistan, what you're seeing down in Texas on the border.
Just give us your perspective, because you're one of the best political strategists in the country.
Did you ever think we'd get to a time nine months into this regime it'd be this bad?
jason miller
No, not at all.
In fact, yesterday I saw Sean Hannity posted on Getter that essentially comparing Joe Biden to Jimmy Carter.
And I replied back to Sean and said, hey, that's not fair to Jimmy Carter.
Even Jimmy Carter wasn't this bad.
And, you know, Steve, obviously we look at this as people who are coming out from a political perspective.
Obviously, I'm an abashed conservative and a supporter of President Trump's.
And I want to see Republicans do well in the midterms.
But the amount of chaos that we're seeing, the amount of suffering that we're seeing by Americans, Who can't afford the increase at the gas pump, who can't afford the increase when it comes to a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread.
We see the chaos at the southern border.
This is hurting American lives.
And there's one thing, Steve, that's even bigger that I know you've been the tip of the spear on, and that's with regard to handling COVID.
The fact of the matter is Biden and the so-called geniuses of the N1H1 team that completely screwed the swine flu up as well.
They have no idea, Steve, what they're going to do this fall.
This is a hear me now, believe me later.
These blue state Democrat governors and mayors are going to be moving towards shutdowns again this fall.
That is for sure.
They have no idea what they're doing.
steve bannon
You're one of the guys that, although you're a communications guy, you're very analytical.
We've got a minute here, we're going to hold you over the break.
They have a five-seat majority in the House, no majority in the Senate.
They've hit the panic button now to try to put these radical plans as their numbers are imploding.
Talk me through, how can he do this now as political capital is bled out?
Jason Miller.
jason miller
Well, short answer is it's not going to make any difference because nobody is going to care about, say, an infrastructure plan that doesn't actually pay off or doesn't have any jobs that are shovel-ready.
Which, by the way, everyone talks about that, but how many people do you think are lining up to actually have the jobs with the shovel in hand?
They want to see better roads.
They want to see Increased.
They want to see a better internet.
They want to see all the energy infrastructure, things like that.
But these things are so far down the road, nothing's going to pay off in the short term.
But Steve, as chaotic as things are with strong leadership, as we saw with President Trump, this thing could be turned around pretty quick.
steve bannon
I think so.
You get to the bottom of November 3rd, you're going to have a 50-seat... If you show people you're going to get to the bottom of it, that's how you're going to get a 50 or 60-seat sweep like 2010 and 2022.
But you've got to get to the bottom of 3 November, okay?
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steve bannon
Here's one of the powers of Getter, and you saw it at the Cyber Symposium.
We had Eduardo Bolsonaro come down there, and he's now in Getter.
I think the whole Bolsonaro family.
He gave one of the most powerful presentations about why you need to get to the bottom of 3 November, right?
It was an incredible presentation.
Jason Miller's the CEO.
Jason, it's expanding.
What I like about it, it's expanding all over.
It's in Europe, you've got Brazil.
You've really provided a platform, and I'm sure liberals and progressives eventually will join it in bigger numbers, but right now, You're providing conservatives, populists, nationalists throughout the world.
And the thing in Brazil is very, very important.
I think, I know you're going down there to the CPAC Brazil, but Bolsonaro, his comments about, and remember, his dad's re-election.
Against Lula takes place four weeks or five weeks before the midterms.
It's going to be a predicate, just like the Brexit win in 2016 was a predicate on Trump's victory.
This is going to be very, very, very important.
Talk to us about what you guys are doing internationally and how you're tying it all together back here to the U.S.
jason miller
Absolutely, and Steve, speaking of 2016, do you know what today is the five-year anniversary of?
unidentified
It's a big date in history, wasn't it?
The five-year anniversary of what, sir?
jason miller
So today is the five-year anniversary of when you took the helm of the Trump campaign in 2016.
And Steve, as someone who was there before you and someone who fought shoulder-to-shoulder with you, I can say that President Trump would not have won in 2016 if you hadn't come in at that point and taken over.
And so I know you're now this globally famous individual who's leading this nationalist populist movement, and people might forget your humble beginnings, but just five years ago is when you took the helm, and we don't win that race if you're not there, Steve.
steve bannon
Well, I appreciate that.
But, Jason, it was a team effort.
I knew Jason by reputation.
He was the top conservative spokesman.
It was actually on Ted Cruz's campaign, which we covered very closely at Breitbart.
Then, fortunately, President Trump picked him up right before the convention.
I gotta tell you, we stepped in.
You guys had a great team there.
You just needed a little bit of guidance and just freedom to do it and let Trump be Trump.
Just let Trump be Trump.
He'll get the job done.
Greatest candidate we had.
This platform for the Trump movement is so important.
I see it every day and particularly engagements through the roof.
And you got guys like Pasoapoc, other guys have been big on Twitter and are still on Twitter, but they're using this every day.
Talk to us about what are you trying to accomplish?
Why should people give you a look?
And I'm not saying you gotta go sign up for Getter, but what you gotta do is give it a hard look.
What are you trying to accomplish and why is this platform so important for this movement?
jason miller
Yeah, and Steve, as you said just a couple of moments ago, this is big not just in the U.S., but globally.
We're about 2 million users, a little over that, about half of that in the United States, half internationally.
And in that international group, 15% is in Brazil, where we have Eduardo Bolsonaro, who you referenced, his father, President Jair Bolsonaro, also Flavio Bolsonaro.
And working on Carlos, so hopefully get Carlos Bolsonaro on board, but we're going to go down and be one of the sponsors for CPAC Brazil coming up in a couple weeks on September 3rd, September 4th.
They have a big presence there.
And I think we're also going to have an additional big name joining the team from the UK, so stay focused, be paying attention there.
But here's what the beauty of this is, Steve, is that this platform, this free speech platform where we support people being able to say what they want politically without being deplatformed, opposing cancel culture, is actually uniting populists from all around the world in a way that none of these social media platforms ever have.
This is the beauty of it.
I've never interacted on social media.
With folks from other countries, the way that I have now with people from Japan or Canada or UK or Brazil, Australia, all around the world of freedom-loving people who say, you know what?
I am sick and tired of these guys in Silicon Valley telling us what free speech is and what it isn't.
steve bannon
Here's the one thing I want to ask about this platform because, like I said, I'm not the pros pro in social media, but everybody that is says the engagement rates here are extraordinary and it's leading to deeper conversations, it's leading to deeper connections.
What do people mean by that?
jason miller
Well, we're actually having debates, and in fact, Kara Swisher from the New York Times, from the Sway podcast, who's kind of the, when I say the Tim Russert of the podcast world, I mean, she's the hammer.
She's the tough one.
I'm joining her podcast on Monday, but she was teasing her first couple weeks of being on the Getter platform and said, you know what, guys?
I, she was on her podcast.
I've actually had some positive exchanges.
I don't want to put too many words in her mouth, but saying that the interface, the back and forth with people is a lot better than she thought it would.
And I think people actually look for the debate.
I think people are respectful.
Steve, when I look at Twitter in the morning, I can tell you what it is.
I go on Twitter.
I take a look.
Orange man bad bunch of George Soros bots or Antifa crazies with anonymous accounts and it's just it's a as Raheem says it's a left-wing cesspool when I go and get her there are people who actually appreciate their free speech rights who want to see not just America do well and We want to see people from other countries embrace.
They want to see Brazil do well.
They want to see Canada do well.
That's great.
But let's go and talk about free speech.
Let's push back against the authoritarian, whether it's Fauci wanting us to wear four, five, sometimes six masks.
The science has been crazy.
Talk about the November 3rd movement, which is something where, Steve, again, you've been a leader on that to make sure that we don't lose sight of what's important here.
So we have great conservatives making these points every day.
steve bannon
This Cara Swisher thing is going to be huge because this is kind of the establishment saying we're going to give you a look.
One second on a break and then tell us real quick, we've got about a minute, tell us about the Brazil trip.
jason miller
Yeah, absolutely.
So I'll be joining Kara Swisher on Monday.
Very much looking forward to it.
She's tough.
I tell you, Steve, I've gone on Meet the Press and Fox News Sunday and Stephanopoulos and all these cats.
I've probably put more time and effort getting ready for Kara's interview on Monday than any of those.
The simple fact is she really knows her stuff inside and out.
This isn't just showing up and phoning it in.
She really knows her stuff.
With regard to Brazil, that's coming up September 3rd, September 4th.
CPAC Brazil, they had one in 2019.
They didn't have it in 2020 because of COVID.
They're expecting, I think, somewhere in the neighborhood of 1,500 people to be in attendance.
Everyone's going to Brasilia, the capital.
We're very excited about it.
You're going to see a huge getter presence.
We're going to be all over the place.
And you know what?
We're going to make sure it's not just the U.S.
that's going to have free speech rights.
We're going to make sure everyone around the country is going to have a platform where you can say what you want politically. Don't have to worry about being de-platformed or canceled and there's always going to be a place to go. We can't, Steve, we can't sit around and say, oh we'll let the Congress or maybe someday the courts will take care of it. Some of those measures are important to push.
The only thing it's going to do is if we do it ourselves. Real quickly, what's your getter handle ahead of people following you?
Absolutely.
Jason Miller in D.C.
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Come and check it out.
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