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Episode 1,171 – Biden Inflation is Going to Get WorseEpisode 1,171 – Biden Inflation is Going to Get Worse
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dave ramaswamy
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raheem kassam
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steve bannon
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
OK, it's Friday, 13 August, Year of Our Lord 2021.
We're live here in the War Room.
We've got a lot to go through.
Raheem Kassam is going to be my wingman for this hour.
We've got Dave Ramaswamy, we've got Ben Burkham.
We've got a lot to talk about.
3 November movement, the Cyber Symposium.
Fauci, all of it, Afghanistan, the economy.
I want to go to Rahim.
Rahim, as Steve Cortez is just tweeting out, we're going to put it up in the live chat, and Jason Miller just mentioned, it's the fifth anniversary of the day that, that was Saturday, that evening President Trump offered me the job of being his CEO.
But I think I told you, I've got to tell the story.
Rahim, you were running Breitbart London, but you also sat in as the co-host many times in my backup post on Breitbart News Radio that was, I think, six days a week at that time.
It was seven days a week, the Sunday night show you didn't do, but the daily show.
I think I called you up on Sunday morning and said, hey, you've got to sit in.
You're going to have to sit in for me on Monday.
I don't think I'm going to be there.
And then you took over as host.
I don't think I'll ever contact you after Trump won.
Rahim, is that the way I remember it went down?
Is that the way you remember it went down?
I'm sure yours is more brutal.
So I want to hear the story.
raheem kassam
I was very hungover and I was laying in bed and I get this phone call.
And the phone call is you and says, where are you?
You say, where are you?
And I said, well, I'm in Washington, D.C.
You went, good.
Stay there.
I said, what do you mean, stay there?
I've got a flight back to London tomorrow.
You said, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm going to need you to host the show on Monday.
No.
said that's where you're going to be he said i can't talk to you about it you'll find out the front page in the new york times tomorrow and that is how i found out with the rest of the world uh... and sure enough that is i think that's correct i don't think we exchanged anything on the station until off the the victory and uh... yet now is it was a ton of our talk to you know i i i didn't talk to the break for days until that's until night that night in the election uh...
steve bannon
Larry Solove, John Kahn, and some others came to the election night when we won.
But no, you did a fantastic job.
I hate to say this, but I think the ratings actually went up.
Because if you think the audience now has a problem with me cutting off Rahim and not letting... You know, they're making t-shirts every time Rahim goes around the country to let Rahim talk.
It was ten times worse then.
Because back then we used to take callers.
unidentified
I mean, we were really a caller-driven show.
steve bannon
So Rahim had to fight, really had to fight for the microphone, particularly because he was running Breitbart London.
Rahim had just had the huge victory, really a month before, with the Brexit win.
So there was a lot going on.
But I remember that.
I took the job Saturday night, called Rahim early Sunday morning.
Of course, obviously Rahim is going to be hungover.
unidentified
But I said, make sure you don't get on that flight to London.
steve bannon
You've got a new job.
So I want to thank you for pitching in.
Before I turn to Dave Ramaswamy, you've been doing some very smart analytical work looking at these different polling.
And this is why we got to get to the bottom of November 3rd.
Because this thing right now is spinning out of control.
And I don't say that as a partisan.
Look, I pride myself on probably being the most partisan.
And I pride myself in doing it, but it's for the good of the country and the overall country.
This thing is spinning out of control.
And the finances, I think, are the worst.
Even the invasion on the border and all these other things, CRT, the masks, the COVID.
What they're trying to jam through, and it's obvious what they're trying to do, they understand they're going to get smoked in 2022.
They understand they're going to get smoked again in 2024.
They are trying to cram in so much radical stuff on finances and the economics of it that is irreversible.
And the Republican Party is going along with them.
Remember Ramaswamy, he's one of the smartest guys I know to give you kind of a breakdown of what they're trying to do.
But Rahim, talk to me about some numbers first.
Talk to me about some math here.
And this is before the implications of what's happening in Afghanistan.
And please, everybody watching this show, understand we're America first.
We're not for the forever wars.
We understand as veterans, America has not just obligations, they have to do it the smart way, right?
You have to do this very, very smart, smartly.
And what Biden's done is just a travesty and a debacle.
President Trump had a very organized effort at how to get out of Afghanistan and still keep the peace and make sure the United States was not going to be attacked.
Rahim, walk me through some of these polling numbers you've been analyzing.
raheem kassam
Well, Steve, I'm glad you bring up Afghanistan because, you know, I think you can take the situation as it stands away from the arguments about foreign wars for a minute and just look at it from a competency perspective.
Right.
So Ron Klain is the person here who's dealing with all of this.
He's well known to be dealing with all of this.
The media is quite happy to acknowledge that Ron Klain, the chief of staff to Joe Biden, is behind a lot of this mess.
That America finds itself in, and just this morning we're told that there are reporters that are stuck there in Kabul, US reporters, and there isn't the authorization to go in and extract them.
People are going to die because the Biden regime does not have a competent and coherent solution to this problem that the Trump administration very clearly did, and very clearly
They were very public and transparent and President Trump put out a statement some time ago talking about his May date of leaving talking about why September the 11th was the worst possible date that you could you could pull out troops from Afghanistan purely from a sort of morale perspective but look at what's going on in the numbers now in the polling as a result and a big shout out to the Rasmussen Reports guys who I think have the best tracker on this on a day-to-day basis.
Joe Biden's numbers we talked about last month I guess We're already falling off the precipice.
Now what we see is this ...continuation of a steep increase in his disapproval numbers.
He currently has an index rating of minus 16.
That's amongst 1,500 likely voters with an error rating of about 3% and margin of error about 3% in the Rasmussen Reports tracker.
Hold on, hang on.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
steve bannon
Hang on a second.
Explain to the audience why that's such an important number.
Why are you focused on that?
raheem kassam
It's an incredibly important number because, remember, people are pretty reticent to tell pollsters that they are negative about something that they're told by the media to be positive about all the time, that they are told that they have public pressure on them all of the time to take up certain positions.
And of course, you know, this comes on the back of, you mentioned a few issues there, right?
You talked about the border and we've got Secretary Mayorkas now saying the numbers are unsustainable.
Yet, you know, This doesn't take Sherlock to figure that out.
You've got a mask mandate and vaccine mandate situation where the whole country is looking at the words that Joe Biden used at the end of last year when he said, I have a plan for COVID, Trump does not.
And the plan appeared to be, what, further proliferating it around the country and allowing these variants to scare the country again into further lockdowns and mask mandates and so on and so forth.
You look at this number now and you just think, well, what actually would get Joe Biden out of this, out of his own miasma that he's created for himself?
And usually the answer to that question, the answer I presented to you last week was a war, right?
The foreign war.
But even on the foreign war basis, Steve, we look at Afghanistan as an example of this.
He would have no credibility and he would only further, I think, make himself unpopular by doing anything more in Afghanistan.
So what he's done is he's boxed himself into a position.
He's boxed himself into a position domestically in polling numbers and he's boxed himself into a position with the Taliban.
I don't see any way back for Joe Biden.
I don't think these numbers ever go back.
steve bannon
Listen, the Financial Times of London is the paper of the Party of Davos, right?
And I've just got to read these headlines.
Taliban offensive gathers pace as United Kingdom sends troops to evacuate staff.
Sub-headlines.
Sub-headlines of the Financial Times.
You couldn't get a more pro-Party of Davos Joe Biden paper than this.
Sub-headlines.
Islamists sweep over Afghanistan.
First sub-headline.
Second, provincial capitals fall.
Third, United Nations warns of humanitarian crisis.
This is, they said, they hammered every day about the competence of Donald Trump.
He was terrible.
Under Donald Trump's watch, Raheem Kassam, did the United Kingdom have to send troops in to protect their embassy staff and start to evacuate another humiliating, you know, Saigon 75 helicopters on the top of the roofs?
How is this going to play in the United Kingdom?
Joe Biden and his regime It's not just being out of control here in the United States.
The world is watching this.
The world is watching this.
And hey, those criminals in Beijing are watching Taiwan.
And let me tell you, ladies and gentlemen, this is not about a moral obligation we have to defend freedom or an ally like in Taiwan.
The Chinese Communist Party takes over Taiwan, the United States economy will implode.
That is 95, I think, percent of our advanced chip.
You think you're waiting four months for a refrigerator?
There are not going to be any refrigerators.
You're waiting for three or four months for an F-100 right now?
There are not going to be any F-100s, okay?
Those chips, and Beijing is looking right there, this hapless, feckless, administration. Rahim, tell me about UK and I want to turn to Dave Ramaswamy. He's here to talk about the economy but he's got a lot of thoughts because he's a strategist, he understands the reason. Talk to me about the UK having to send troops in to evacuate a humiliating defeat in Afghanistan.
raheem kassam
Well I got to tell you that that front page of the Financial Times doesn't even tell the whole story from the Financial Times. Why don't we take a look at their op-ed section from this morning, Gideon Rachman.
And I think you can see it there.
All right.
Here's the headline.
Joe Biden's credibility has been shredded in Afghanistan.
That is the lead op-ed of the Financial Times.
steve bannon
Hold it.
Gideon Rockman is one of the biggest haters of Trump.
The whole op-ed section of the Financial Times, all the brains, Martin Wolf, Gideon Rockman.
These guys are hardcore.
Trump's incompetent.
Trump is an embarrassment on the world stage.
Trump didn't know what he was doing.
Hey, they're getting a belly full of Joe Biden right now, just like the American people are.
The world community, it couldn't happen to a better group.
I hope the Financial Times is embracing the suck right now, okay?
Because this is what you guys wrought.
You hated Trump.
You bad-mouthed him every day.
You went out of your way when he had an organized plan in Afghanistan.
Right?
And if he followed Erik Prince's what he wanted to do and the generals didn't talk about it, it would have been completely logical.
But even with that, he had a conditions-based system to get out.
To extract themselves out of a never war.
And to leave peace in Afghanistan.
Right?
And to not allow a slaughter.
And that's where they're headed.
You're going to see the young girls.
They're going to be standing them up against the wall.
You watch what happens here.
And Gideon Ragmat, it's a great thing you went to the op-ed.
And those things carry a lot of weight in the world financial markets.
These guys hated Trump.
They say he was totally incompetent.
Let me bring in Dave Ramaswamy.
Hang there, you're going to be with us for the hour, Rahim.
Ramaswamy, you know that area of the world better than anybody, and you also understand capital markets.
Walk us through the financial times today.
The Biden regime is cratering in front of our eyes as we said they would.
Dave Ramaswamy.
dave ramaswamy
No, Steve, Rahim, this is a perfect storm, if you will.
To show how international security, national security, and domestic security are linked.
You know, if you go back to Afghanistan, the Americans had the watches, but the Taliban had the time.
So over the last 20 years, they just waited us out to implode.
And one of the things that tell, as you say, the signal, not the noise, is America or American think tanks, or what I call stink tanks, decided it would be a great idea to ally with Pakistan To fight the Taliban.
I mean that's like allying with arsonists to fight fires and not just allying with arsonists funding arsonists, you know, so that was like the original sin allying with Pakistan.
To fight the Taliban in Afghanistan.
So, it's doomed to fail.
And if you remember, Steve, going back to 2001, when America entered Afghanistan, Joe Biden at that time was on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
So, a lot of the policies since then, he's kind of shepherded through.
And more importantly, from 2010 to 2014, the Biden-Kerry amendment gave a billion and a half dollars to Pakistan for every year for five years.
So, we have kind of, you know, Funded terror by slight or inadvertently if you will and that's resulted in 2,000 American soldiers losing their lives and over 20,000 casualties and two trillion dollars spent in 20 years and now like you're saying you're cutting and running with nothing to show for it.
steve bannon
Okay, we'll take a short commercial break.
We'll come back with both Dave Ramaswamy and Rahim Ghassan.
This is Talk About Karma, and people talk about Joe Biden's on the wrong side of every issue on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
You're seeing this incompetent now that he's got to be an executive in charge.
You're seeing the whole reality of Joe Biden right now.
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Ghassan Ramaswamy next in The War Room.
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But you've got to think geopolitically and you also have to think, be smart about it.
President Trump had a very, Eric Prince's plan was the smart plan, right?
We'll get into more of that hopefully tomorrow, the details of it.
President Trump tried to get that accepted.
The generals, everybody, the whole national security establishment, everybody fought that.
They lied to President Trump about what the costs were going to be, how far down the road we were about solving this problem.
But even when President Trump then forced the apparatus to say, no, no, no, no, we're going to do this, you're going to do it my way, he had a conditions-based withdrawal that would have left things fine.
They didn't want to hear that.
And what's happening now, here's the signal.
This is going to cause so many other problems, not just in the region.
Which is kind of, you know, right on the cusp of a regional war.
This is about Pakistan, India, our allies in India, Modi, who are real allies, the nationalists in India, and the Chinese Communist Party, up on the borders of India, and always causing problems with Pakistan, who you can't trust as far as you can throw.
And Dave Ramasamy's right, we've been shoveling money in there by the Bush administration, by the Obama administration, shoveling your tax dollars in there.
Remember, it's the Senator at Brown University, who was not the war room, did an analysis.
Net present value, two trillion dollars in Afghanistan.
What, 2200 combat deaths, thousands, tens of thousands of injuries, right?
PTSD, just a disaster.
Complete total debacle.
And what Joe Biden has done, just like the Democrats cut and ran in Vietnam after Vietnam War, 25 or 30 million deaths in that region because of the way they left.
They're gutless cowards.
They don't care.
Somebody said the other day, Biden doesn't care.
It's not his problem.
Yes, it is his problem.
And this is why his numbers are imploding.
You haven't seen the numbers implode yet.
Because the whole thing with the debt ceiling, the whole thing with inflation, the border spinning out of control with the invasion, right?
All of it, the mass mandates.
Jason Miller, the brilliant thing about they haven't got a plan for the fall with COVID, these big Democratic states.
Biden's numbers.
I've said this before.
He's going to get to the high 30s and then it's game, set, match.
It's just how big the sweep is going to be in 2022 if we get to the bottom of the 3rd of November.
Dave Ramaswamy, tell me about the economics here.
You're one of the smartest guys around about this.
The Biden economy, the Biden inflation, how's he going to finance this?
The pressure on the dollar.
What's your sense of what's going on and how bad is it going to be for the American people?
Then I'm going to ask Rahim how bad it's going to get on his polling.
dave ramaswamy
Steve, I'm going to use a quick analogy and that's of a restaurant.
Imagine a 100 seat restaurant, which can seat and feed 100 diners in a normal circumstance.
But in the very same circumstance or change circumstances, you have a couple of cooks who are missing.
The gas supply to the stove top and burners are being restricted.
You know, the waiters are AWOL because they're being paid to stay at home and not work.
And then suddenly you have 20 more diners.
So instead of 100, you have 120 diners coming to eat.
Guess what's going to happen?
The price of everything on the restaurant menu is going to skyrocket because you're going to have more diners chasing the same amount of food.
So this is what we're seeing at a macro level.
We're fundamentally coming out of a pandemic and we're still not fully out because, you know, you have contrasting messages from the public health bureaucracy, which is making our economy drive on brakes, if you will, drive with brakes on.
So, the point is we have restricted energy supplies where the Keystone Pipeline was taken offline, you know, nuclear plant in California was taken offline.
So, we have America's domestic energy supply being restricted while at the very same time Americans are eager to get back into the workforce, but many government programs and stimulus checks Are forcing people to still stay on the sidelines.
You have small businesses, retail shops, hotels.
You have many sectors of the economy dying to get employees, but they can't.
So again, supply energy is being taken offline, grocery prices are skyrocketing, while at the very same time, you have people eager to move.
Eat, feed their families, fill their gas tanks.
So, you have restricted energy, restricted inputs in food prices and also restricted supply chain coming from China, as one of your earlier guests said.
Yesterday, China's second biggest port went offline because of one Covid case.
So, guess what?
Any inputs that go into US manufacturing is going to be restricted over the next few months.
I mean, you talk about chips, From China and Taiwan, we can't manufacture or assemble $50,000 pickups because they're missing $5 chips as inputs.
So this problem, the so-called Biden inflation or the Biden inflation, which people can see hitting their pocketbooks and bank accounts is just going to get worse. It's restricted energy supply, restricted input supply, at the same time more and more people want finished products. It's a perfect storm of disaster.
steve bannon
This is what I don't understand.
At this time, how do you then try to jam through a $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill, which you said, hey, is not really going to infrastructure, on top of that, another $3.5 trillion of what human infrastructure, Green New Deal, and with no plan to finance it, because they can't increase the debt ceiling, because people in this audience have told the Republicans, no, you're not going to increase it one bit.
When you've got $6 trillion of spending and not one penny for the wall, no budget cuts, No way to get this out of control, because it's just going to spin further and further out of control.
How do they do everything going on inflation?
How do they then come with a straight face and say, yes, what we want is massive, and I mean historically massive government spending?
How do they do that?
dave ramaswamy
See, Steve, I'll use another analogy.
I mean, imagine if America was a jetliner and the Pilot is sedated.
The co-pilot is sidelined.
And you have a bunch of Uber drivers in the cockpit turning dials and just hitting buttons.
And now we're seeing the cabin being depressurized, which is, you've had this sucking sound, giant sucking sound of all the savings And all the hard work of the American people, which will go to finance this debt bomb, or debt, which is going to suck out most of the income, monthly income and annual income.
At the very same time, like you say, this $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill was just the gateway drug to $3.5 trillion in additional spending, right?
So, we can't get Like in Afghanistan, we can't get the basics right.
And then we are moving on to a bigger project, which is almost doomed to failure.
It's just a sinkhole of spending.
And as a Republican, frankly, there's been a huge disappointment.
And but this is in line with a unit party failed thinking over the last two decades, being intimate with corporations and not being intimate with constituents.
steve bannon
So Rahim on this point with the Republicans, why given where Biden's numbers aren't imploding, why would Mitch McConnell in this big article in The Hill today saying Trump's very powerful in the House, but he's lost the control of the Senate, why given the numbers you're looking at, why would Mitch McConnell decide now's the time to try to bail out an administration that is clearly imploding on the global stage before our eyes?
unidentified
Thanks.
steve bannon
He's on mute.
Okay.
Do we have it?
Okay.
Dave, let me go back to you.
We got a technical problem with Rahim.
Let me ask you that.
Why would the Republicans, why would McConnell try to bail out this administration, Dave Ramasamy?
Because that's what you're having here.
He's imploding totally on the world stage.
Why would they try to bail this guy out?
19 Republican senators voted for this infrastructure bill, which is a predicate to the $3.5 trillion.
Why in your mind would they do that?
dave ramaswamy
See, I think, Steve, it's just like Mitch McConnell and Joe Biden are the two faces of the failed unit party strategy going back decades.
So, according to probably Mitch McConnell's worldview, he's just bailing out his ideological compadre.
And the few other Republicans going along with it, I don't know what they're thinking.
Maybe many of them don't want to run for office in 2020 and beyond.
So, it's just their final hurrah, if you will.
But as you rightly said, the Countries realigning in a new model, you know, the economic sovereignty, economic nationalism, cultural sovereignty.
So the point is, they're just pursuing, they're just doubling down on a strategy which has been shown a failure for the last two decades.
steve bannon
Dave, how do people follow you?
And I know you're going to get a piece of about the infrastructure.
How do people follow you on social media?
dave ramaswamy
Steve, they can follow me on Gab, Dave Ramaswamy.
steve bannon
Okay, fantastic.
Do we have Rahim back?
Rahim, real quickly, we've got to jump to break.
We've got about a minute.
Walk me through why, on the math, the guy's imploding on the world stage.
Why are Republicans bailing him out?
Because these numbers are going to have... I don't think they've got a floor to it.
I think this guy could get into the mid-30s very quickly.
raheem kassam
Yeah, I think he's got more downward trajectory to go as it all settles in.
I'll read you the first part of that Gideon Ruckman op-ed.
If Donald Trump were presiding over the debacle in Afghanistan, the US foreign policy establishment would be loudly condemning the irresponsibility and immorality of American strategy.
Since it is Joe Biden in the White House there instead, they are largely in embarrassed silence.
I think that tells you everything, and that means it's seeping in.
It's settling in to the mindset of the Gideon Ratwins of the world, the Financial Times of the world, The Economist will be next, Time Magazine, Newsweek, you name it.
These people are going to be bailing away from Biden.
They know what it means.
They know what it portends.
They know what the public are thinking.
They don't want their mantras and their belief systems to go down with him.
I think he's got a long way to fall still.
steve bannon
There's not a better time to press the bet on 3 November, I'm telling you.
Right now, because people are questioning, how did this happen?
There's buyer's remorse, and people are questioning his, not just competence, they're questioning his legitimacy.
This is going to have a free fall with no bottom to it.
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Ben Burkham from the border, Rahim Ghassan about rallies in New York City, about vaccines, masks, and vaccine passports, all next in The War Room.
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ben bergquam
What's it look like down there on the Guatemala-Mexico border?
oscar blue ramirez
You know, as the last time that you were over here, you can actually walk through a downtown area.
Right now, it is so difficult to do that Because the enormous influx of migrants of people from Haiti and people from Africa have overwhelmed the businesses of the Mexican people.
They are actually putting their business outside of the Mexican businesses and they're telling the Mexican people that they're trying to come in into the business.
If they don't buy first through their business that is on the sidewalk without a permit, they are not going to let them in inside to buy a product.
And actually tomorrow there's going to be a huge protest of Mexicans against this kind of, you know, this kind of situation that they are encountering right now.
Also, they took over an abandoned neighborhood with more than 200 apartments, 200 apartments that they have taken over. These apartments were taken over first by the Mara Salvatruchas, that is the MS-13s, and the humongous wave of people from Haiti came in there, they kicked the Mara Salvatruchas out, and now they're the ones that are taking over and control of that.
They're charging between 350 pesos per person for each apartment, and in each apartment, they're stacking over from 13 to 20 people in one small apartment.
The most amazing thing is that We could not even walk through this apartment.
We have to do it on the automobile because they are so aggressive.
They're really aggressive.
They were coming at us aggressively to tell us that we cannot record on our own country on a public place.
The really concerning thing, Ben, right here is what is happening in the United States.
They're trying to shut down businesses over there with this COVID variant nonsense.
And over here, It is not only that is a lot of cases of COVID, but there's other infections that are coming in after February that Joe Biden lifted the tariff on Mexico that Donald Trump put to stop the enormous influx. There's sicknesses that are coming in as syphilis, as gonorrhea, and a lot of cases of AIDS. Tapachula has become the number one city in the country.
of Mexico with syphilis, gonorrhea and AIDS and this is because of the enormous influx.
unidentified
This is unbelievable brother.
steve bannon
This video of Ben Berkwan, the great investigative reporter with Real America's Voice is so powerful.
We're going to play this hopefully again today at 5.
This shows you what the global elites think about working class people, whether those working class people are in Mexico or on our side of the border, American citizens.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the future of our movement.
We're going to get not 40 or 50 percent.
We can get two thirds of the Hispanic vote in this country.
You know why?
Because now it's out in the open.
The global elitist that run Washington D.C.
and have gotten the Biden administration or the Biden regime in office don't care about them.
This, this, this invasion, remember this invasion of the United States, as Michael Yan, and he's, Michael Yan's back in the Darien Gap and going to be reporting here.
It's got to, it comes up through Mexico.
Look at the devastation of the Mexican people.
Ben Burquham.
Amazing.
I'm glad Border News Network is back up.
Border Network News is back up.
Oscar is incredible.
That's an amazing interview.
Talk to us about what the reality is down there.
There's no bottom.
There is no bottom.
When the Biden administration starts to implode, and it's starting right now, there's no bottom.
And no Republicans should offer him any lifesaver.
This is outrageous.
Ben Burquham.
ben bergquam
Absolutely, Steve.
We had 200 plus thousand illegals caught last month in August, which should be the lowest crossing month of the year because of the heat.
Usually you have less crossings.
We saw an exponential increase last month and we're going to see an exponential increase from now going forward because of the Democrat policies, Biden policies, that are inviting this.
And you're seeing it not just in America to have that content From Blue down there right now in Tapachula.
He's there as we speak.
They're planning a protest today against it.
The invasion that's come into there, and they're calling it a new colonization, is how he sees it in Mexico, and what he sees going on in America as well.
Taking over communities.
What blew my mind was they're actually taking over from MS-13.
You think MS-13, the baddest dudes, you know, these gang members.
These guys actually came in and took over from them.
There are between 60 and 100,000 people right now in Tapachula that are waiting to come up through Mexico into the United States, and that's just in that area.
That's not including everyone who's coming directly into Mexico, flying directly into Mexico and up.
This problem is only going to get worse.
It's not just COVID.
It's all those other diseases.
It's tuberculosis.
It's mumps.
It's measles.
And ultimately, though, it is the destruction of the U.S.
economy that goes right along with everything else you've been talking about with the lack of supply and the increasing demand in this country, our debt ceiling going through the roof.
We just can't pay for it.
It is a disaster in the making, and it's by design.
And the worst part about this, when I asked him why is this happening?
Why aren't the Mexican people rising up against this?
The United Nations down there, the UN Global Migration Pact, which was signed by Mexico in 2018, states that they're basically protecting these people, these invaders, against Being prosecuted against being thrown out by the Mexican people.
So the Mexican people are being hurt in this.
And we talk about this all the time.
It's not just America.
It's Mexico.
It's Central America.
It's every nation that is impacted by open borders.
And it's all being pushed by the leftist globalist elites that are doing the same thing in America.
Destroying American businesses.
Telling you to get the vaccine.
Telling you to wear a mask.
Telling you that your business might be shut down again while they're inviting this invasion into our country.
steve bannon
Real quickly, if we push and get this full forensic audit in Texas, what are we going to find out about the Rio Grande Valley and about Harris County in Houston, Texas?
Ben Berquam?
ben bergquam
Clearly, massive shift in voting for President Trump.
I think once we get the fraud out of the way, if we're able to do that, we're going to see what I believe, the evidence that I've seen, the largest voter fraud in maybe not just American history, in world history, what we've seen happen in this last election.
If we can get the bureaucracy, and you can tell what's happening when, you know, Mike Lindell and the amazing symposium he had the last three days, when the hackers attack at the level that they're attacking to silence the information, you know you're over the target.
And I think more and more of that's just going to continue to come out.
steve bannon
Ben, how do people get to you?
We're going to try to have you back on tonight and tomorrow.
Your reporting is amazing.
The border invasion is, to me, one of the central stories.
How do people get to you?
How do people follow you during the day?
ben bergquam
Obviously, Real America's Voice News, FrontlineAmerica.com is my website, and then on all social media, you can find me at Ben Burquam, and I do want to say, mainly though, look up Oscar El Blue, Border Network News, you can find him on social media everywhere, Border Network News, Oscar El Blue, and his partner, Anthony Aguedo, they're doing amazing work down there on the U.S.
and Mexico border as well.
steve bannon
Let's put that into the live chat.
Real quickly, we had a big development in the Burquam family saga.
Tell us what happened the other day.
ben bergquam
Uh, my wife, uh, she was able, after seven weeks in a wheelchair after our accident, broke her pelvis, fractured her L1 vertebrae in her shoulder, she walked for the first time.
My wife is a walker, again, uh, was able to stand up and, uh, I, we actually, uh, went to a store yesterday and she was able to walk the aisles with her walker and we are, uh, man, we are blessed people.
We are blessed people.
steve bannon
Burquam, you're a very special guy, very special family.
Real America's Voice Chief Investigative Reporter.
Thank you very much, sir.
Rahim, before I play this spot, because I know you're up in New York for a reason, but I've got to ask you, you were part of this migrant fight in 2015.
You were one of the first guys at the front line of this talking about Merkel and what happened, and it changed politics.
Remember, populism, nationalism in Europe didn't rise because of the financial crisis, because of the migrant crisis.
Not the financial crisis of 2008, which drove the American version.
The European version was driven by the migrant crisis of 2015.
You see what's happening down in Mexico with this reporting.
Walk us through, how do you think this plays out like 2015 played out, sir?
raheem kassam
Well, I think the migrant crisis of 2015 was in part caused by the financial crisis in the sense that, of course, people had a big, big problem with the migrant crisis in and of itself.
But it was just as people were about to start making good again on their own lot, following the financial crisis, that they were then hit with this other whammy, which was a whammy of, hey, you know, here are all these other people coming into the country.
There's going to be lots of increases in crime.
There's going to be jobs that are lost to these people from, you know, native born Germans, French, Italians, Grecians, whatever you want.
Then there was also the most heinous parts of the migrant crisis.
The fact that the taxpayers themselves were made to pay for this stuff.
They were made to pay for the boats that went in and pulled these people onto land.
They were made to pay for the welfare that these people had to live off.
They were made to pay for their homes.
In a lot of cases, entire neighborhoods and communities were changed overnight.
So I think the two things played together.
And I think that's what you're going to see here as well.
There can be no doubt about it. While I know some people don't feel like it This is an extraordinary financial crisis that is going on in this country. There is a huge inflation crisis There's this massive liquidity crisis There are all sorts of things they're going to end up with people being Worse off than they expect it to be at this point in time and then add that cherry on the cake Which is the migrant crisis at the border and the hundreds of thousands of people that are not just being less in with Kovat and what?
Have you but are being let in and will be afforded some of the finest?
Accommodations that America can offer while its own citizens both suffer and pay for it You see what's happening down in Mexico and Central America.
steve bannon
Michael Yan's back there.
We're getting more of Michael Yan's reporting down the Darien Gap.
The 200,000, which is the size of Patton's 3rd Army, that were stopped in July means 2-for-1 or 3-for-1.
That means 3, 4, 500,000 got across.
That's what everybody talks about, what got across.
You're seeing that the wave is really moving up now from Central America into Mexico.
You have reporters from Mexico saying, this thing's overwhelming us, but we can't stop it because of this U.N.
situation with migrants.
Talk to us.
Rahim, what do you think is to come?
What do we have in store for us in the coming days, weeks, and months ahead on the southern border?
raheem kassam
Yeah, I mean, it's very difficult to make predictions about this regime's approach to the border because they don't seem to believe that there is one.
You know, they will make sort of some woolly statements every so often about the scale of the problem and Kamala's going to Guatemala to check on the weather and so on and so forth.
But they're not operating as if there is a border and therefore they're not operating like the United States as a country.
I happen to believe, I personally believe, just like I felt in Europe in 2015, that this isn't just a dereliction of duty, it's actually an abandonment of the oath of office.
I absolutely believe that and I think we need to start speaking in those terms because if you don't accept that there is a border that needs to be policed I don't believe the numbers by the way.
you go to the other side of it and rescue people and bring them over and put them in cages while you claim to not put them in cages and then send them out into the country that's not policing the border. Policing the border is stopping people coming in illegally. If you don't police that border, you don't believe there's a country and I happen to believe that it's only going to get worse. I don't believe the numbers by the way.
I think the numbers are far bigger than they're telling us.
steve bannon
A hundred percent.
By the way, Nigel Farage is the number one show in England right now because starting on War Room six weeks ago, eight weeks ago, he said, hey, he was down in Arizona, he said, this is an invasion.
It's not a crisis, not an emergency.
This is an invasion of military-age men just like in 2015.
This is an invasion.
It's that type of truth-telling.
That's why Nigel Farage is blowing out everybody, Sky News and BBC in the UK.
He speaks truth to power.
We had Jim Lehman on, the guy running for the Senate.
He's no radical.
He said, hey, I'd send the 3rd Infantry Division down to the border to stop it.
And you hear the reporting.
We're going to get into reporting in Central America and Mexico from Michael Yan and also from Oscar Abloh.
The sea voice is down there.
You ain't seen nothing yet.
This is far bigger than is being reported.
Okay?
This is an outright invasion and it's dangerous.
And the working class Hispanics in the Rio Grande Valley are bearing the brunt of it.
Okay?
Bearing the brunt of it.
And guess what?
Every one of those people, every one of them, is going to be a Trump voter, is going to vote populist, they're going to vote nationalist.
OK, we're going to return.
Rahim's on assignment.
Big, big event over the weekend about Fauci, about vaccine passport, about mask, about all of it.
OK, he takes the fight to New York City.
We're going to return with Rahim Ghassan in the War Room in a moment.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
...effective in fighting COVID under rules established by health experts.
One would have to dismiss the views of highly educated and experienced scientists, people like Dr. Anthony Fauci, or Dr... Excuse me, excuse me.
steve bannon
Hey, don't listen to The War Room.
Don't listen to Steve Bannon.
Been hammering this guy from day one.
That is called Vox Populi.
That is some committee meeting with American citizens and they're belly laughing at the mention of his name.
So I don't want to see these phony polls that the mainstream media is putting up.
Fauci is a joke and he's a dangerous joke.
Right there you see they've got to gavel it back to order.
People are belly laughing at the very mention of this guy's name.
Raheem Kassam, you're on assignment.
You're up there in New York City.
Tell us what's going on.
Tell us about Fauci, the medical passports.
What are people thinking?
And more importantly, what are people doing?
raheem kassam
Let me start by taking some of Anthony Fauci's words from an interview he did earlier this week with Hugh Hewitt.
He says, quote, it's not comfortable obviously for children to wear masks, particularly the younger children, but you know what we're starting to see, and I think it's going to unfold even more as the weeks go by, that this virus not only is so extraordinarily transmissible, but we're starting to see paediatric hospitals get more and more younger people,
and kids not only numerically but what seems to be more severe disease quote now that we're tracking that the CDC is tracking that really carefully so it's going to be a balance that we would feel very badly if we suddenly said okay kids don't wear masks then you find out retrospectively that this virus is in a very strange strange way an unusual way is hitting the kids really hard hopefully this will be a temporary thing temporary enough
That it doesn't have any lasting negative impact on them, of course.
Steve, that is Anthony Fauci saying, again, another flip-flop on the masks from his position on last year.
That's kind of built into the equation now, but hopefully the kids won't have to wear masks long enough that it will have a lasting negative impact.
Now, if I were Hugh Hewitt, my follow-up question would have been, well, what is too long?
At what point are there lasting negative impacts?
Because Anthony Fauci there is speaking as if he knows there are, but he won't tell us the time frame at which that starts to kick in.
I think that is an urgent question that needs answering immediately, and I think a lot of people will be sceptical about muzzling their children until that question is answered.
But let's take a look at the vaccines for a moment and the conversation surrounding the vaccines.
There's a new article up in the last 24 hours in the New York Post talking about the new Lambda variant and the new Lambda variant appears, they say, to be neutralizing vaccines.
July 28th report specifically in an academic journal said that the, and it's a waiting peer review I will say, but they say that researchers in Japan are sounding the alarm on the C37 variant, the lambda variant, saying that it's just as virulent as the Delta variant, but specifically does not appear to be hindered by the vaccine. Now, the detail of that is that
they're specifically talking about the Sinovac biotech vaccine, the Chinese vaccine, and they're specifically talking about tests that have been going on in Chile.
But this will, of course, worry a lot of people who are now being told that, hey, it's time for you to start thinking about your third jab, your booster.
And of course, just like all of the other attacks on civil liberties that we've seen across the Western world, it always starts with Well, I get it about the boosters.
Because this is about information warfare.
But we're already talking about boosters for everyone else at the same time.
And that's how the Salami's going to do it.
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But hang on.
steve bannon
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I get it about the boosters.
Because this is about information warfare.
To even mention that there was going to be the possibility of you have to get a booster, you have to get another shot.
You were banned from Twitter, you were banned from Facebook, you were banned from social media.
This was all conspiracy theory.
People even mentioned that were considered wingnuts, Mr. Rahim Kassam.
Now it's reality.
Now they're talking about how you get into the queue, right?
That's less than... Conspiracy theory to hard, cold fact is... What's the now?
Three months?
Four months?
Mr. Rahim Kassam.
raheem kassam
Yeah, and again, but that's just all of it, isn't it?
It was a conspiracy theory to believe in the Wuhan lab.
Now we all know the Wuhan lab was, you know, ground zero for this thing.
It was a conspiracy theory to believe in vaccine passports.
Now I'm here in New York and we're talking about not being able to go into restaurants from Monday onwards without a vaccine passport.
I've got a vaccine passport in my wallet.
It's got a picture of Benjamin Franklin on it.
I've no doubt that will get me into whatever restaurant I want to get into.
But people are annoyed about it here and they're finally doing something about it.
The New York Young Republicans are hosting a protest outside of Gracie Mansion this coming Sunday, August the 15th at 3.30 p.m.
here in New York City, 181 East End Avenue.
It's the corner of 88th and East End Avenue, Gracie Mansion, to protest against these vaccine mandates.
steve bannon
But tell people, we've got a couple of minutes, tell people what happens on Monday in the greatest city in the world that's now descended into anarchy and chaos.
OK, I got so many friends that are punched out of their businesses living there.
What is what is de Blasio and the corporations doing starting Monday, Mr. Rahim Kassam?
raheem kassam
Yeah, look, I mean, I'm probably the only rat that swam towards the sinking ship of New York when this vaccine mandate uh... announcement came in uh... they will require proof of vaccination for indoor dining for jim's for performances theaters event venues so it is so full from monday again new york is going to be plunged into the darkness in which it found itself in twenty twenty it is a new york doctor just about things recover
steve bannon
and it's just about to go through hell doctor naomi wolf is on the show two months ago in warren this day was coming but i think is even shocked about how quickly 16...
16 August 2021 is when it starts in New York City.
She warned about it.
Rahim, how do people get to the podcast?
I know you're going to be doing podcasts up there.
How do they get to National Pulse and your social media?
raheem kassam
Yeah, we've got a couple new stories we've just published.
We're really looking into who's been investing in Chinese Communist Party-linked companies.
Lots of members of Congress.
We're naming every single one of them.
It's all there at TheNationalPulse.com.
steve bannon
By the way, didn't I see an article, too, about McCarrick and Hunter Biden and Joe Biden?
Give us up to date on that.
raheem kassam
Yeah, that's right.
Again, Cardinal McCarrick was attending these CEFC events.
That's the energy company that Hunter Biden was made Managing Director of.
He's on the attendee list alongside Patrick Ho, who we remember from Hunter Biden's hard drive from hell, is the effing spy chief of China, according to Hunter Biden, on top of the list on that event from 2014.
Cardinal McCarrick, Patrick Ho, We'll be back.
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