Aug. 13, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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The virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Hi, from the Alliance Center in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. | ||
| Michael and Gail Seibertson told me that we're headed down on the main corner on the stage. | ||
| They're making the final wrap-up of presentations of the day. | ||
| I think they intend to close it down here, I think 6, 7 o'clock local time. | ||
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You're in the War Room. | |
| It is Thursday, the 12th of August, year of the war, 2021. | ||
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And we really want to thank Real America's Voice and John Cutter Trader Network for getting the broadcast out here for four days. | |
| It's been absolutely incredible. | ||
| I want to thank everybody. | ||
| We're trying to jam everything in. | ||
| We're trying to go to the main floor and then come back for guests. | ||
| I wanted to start off with Wendy Rogers, Colonel Wendy Rogers from Arizona. | ||
| She's been one of the leaders of this movement, really stepped up in the last couple of months. | ||
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Carl Rogers, I want to find out what is your, what's your big takeaway? | |
| What's your big takeaway from the last couple days? | ||
| You've been here the whole time. | ||
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What's your takeaway? | |
| Thanks for having me on, Steve. | ||
| I think my biggest takeaway was sort of a hidden gem that emerged today. | ||
| Where I believe all 50 states now have had state representatives or state senators come to this symposium and we have gelled as a group as an election restoration of integrity caucus And we did a press conference just a couple of hours ago. | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| Right in the room next to us there was a big press conference. | ||
| That was the key state representatives that were here? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And it looked like a fairly hostile media. | ||
| Well, it was a good time. | ||
| Confrontational. | ||
| It was a good mix because We all came together because we realized that we have the plenary power as state legislators to have the oversight, based on the U.S. | ||
| Constitution endowing us with that, of the presidential election. | ||
| And this is the only place where we've been able to come together and express that among ourselves and also look to Arizona As sort of the coaching team to help them along their way. | ||
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Excuse me, you've been the railhead. | |
| You've been the railhead of this. | ||
| What's really happening? | ||
| Has that lesson spread to the people here? | ||
| I know a lot of them may be pilgrims out there, but has it spread to people as you've been here the last couple of days? | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| I've had several one-on-one conversations where they say, Senator Rogers, how do we start? | ||
| I tell them you bring the grassroots in, you get the affidavits, you get the receipts as you call it, and find out where the hue and the cry is. | ||
| And then start motivating the state legislatures to move forward and take control and assert themselves. | ||
| And this varies by state legislature when they are in session, how much of a majority they need, whether or not a committee can do it. | ||
| Or whether or not their whole state legislature has to have a majority to do it. | ||
| But we're having these discussions. | ||
| I want to address, look, out there and not just in the chat rooms, of course the media has been bombarding stuff. | ||
| A lot of controversy about what's been shown, what hasn't been shown. | ||
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But it hasn't, people have not picked up the energy. | |
| Of the delegates. | ||
| What people forget is these tables down here are filled mainly with people that are elected officially. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Of all 50 states. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And the enthusiasm I've seen from you guys has just been incredible. | |
| As you've met with each other, you're kind of forming a caucus, right? | ||
| Yes, and there's a real power there. | ||
| There's a real synergy there that we've never had a venue to coalesce in before. | ||
| Can we go, by the way, I'm going to keep with Colonel Rogers, can we take a shot from the main, this is a group from Colorado that's been presenting all afternoon and they've fired people up. | ||
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This is the Mesa County crowd. | |
| It has those great clerks and things like that. | ||
| So talk about this caucus and people being fired up. | ||
| Right now, you're leaving here after day 3, and the media wants you to be disheartened, destroyed, confused. | ||
| Do you get that at all from what I call the 50 state, the 3 November? | ||
| I would say quite the opposite. | ||
| I would say that this has been an incredibly edifying experience and it has brought us together like nothing else has. | ||
| And all these folks now have traded information with each other. | ||
| They've come up to me and asked for encouragement. | ||
| I just passed along one of the bills where we had 30-some measures that we didn't get passed by one vote in Arizona. | ||
| What we will get passed in January, February. | ||
| I just gave that to, I think it was Iowa, two state legislators. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I gave them the website and the bill number. | ||
| They said, Wendy, please can we have this so we don't have to reinvent the wheel. | ||
| These are all the kinds of things now that we can do because we've established relationships. | ||
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But for Mike Lindell, we would not have met Amen. | |
| Eyeball to eyeball to be able to establish these relationships and get these balls rolling. | ||
| As you sit here and talk about the full forensic audits in all 50 states, what we call the ground game, right? | ||
| And we've got to give a head tip to the America First audit over in Telegram. | ||
| We're going to have Dave Cummins here in the next block. | ||
| What are the lessons That you see from Arizona that you can promulgate to other states. | ||
| Every state's different, right? | ||
| What does Tolstoy say? | ||
| All happy families are the same. | ||
| Each unhappy family is unhappy in its own measure. | ||
| Each one of these elections, there's commonality, but there's also differences. | ||
| But what general lessons From the Patriots effort in Arizona, that really makes you the railhead or the driving force in this movement, that your state and you as leaders, what are the lessons in Arizona that every state should embrace? | ||
| Every state should be absolutely resolute and forward-leaning and unflinching in pursuing the truth because even the enemy understands strength. | ||
| Even the enemy understands backbone and a tenacity that all of these colleagues of mine exhibit. | ||
| And when we are around each other, we buoy each other up and all boats rise. | ||
| We all took the oath. | ||
| To support and defend the Constitution of the United States. | ||
| And that is what is so beautifully represented here, and I would not have known that coming. | ||
| When I came here, I came with an open mind. | ||
| I wanted to learn. | ||
| I was here with Fincham and Borelli and my husband. | ||
| And what it has turned into is a real beautiful patchwork of patriotism to get to the bottom of the truth and to restore election integrity for 2022. | ||
| I come away from this extremely optimistic. | ||
| One thing I want to emphasize too, you said it earlier, a second ago, is that in each state you're seeing leaders step up. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Particularly in the legislature, like yourself, Sonny Borelli, you know, Gunny Borelli, you've got Mark Fincham, of course Karen Fain set it up, but it has to have The key part is a major grassroots component. | ||
| Oftentimes, people have never been involved in politics or never been involved in grassroots. | ||
| What do you say about that? | ||
| I have been approached along that line by several podcasters, several online outlets like Real America's Voice and OAN and so forth from various states who follow me on Telegram or Rumble. | ||
| Or, Gab. | ||
| And they come up and they say, I know who you are. | ||
| Yesterday, there were about 15 people outside who had driven over from North Dakota, from Minnesota, from South Dakota, from Utah, and they were all out with banners on the street. | ||
| One of them sent someone in to ask for me, so I went out to meet with them, and I said, would all of you like to come in? | ||
| Oh, well, sorry Senator, we weren't invited. | ||
| I said, well, let's fix that. | ||
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So I got them all into the event and it was a blast! | |
| And they drove hundreds of miles to come here. | ||
| Just showed you. | ||
| Let's talk about, let's pivot to Arizona because it's the thing that's on most people's mind in the 3 November movement. | ||
| You're in the situation now of gathering information to put forward this interim report. | ||
| It was set on the stage today, during your briefing, and by the way, if you haven't had a shot, we're going to put it back up on War Room, their entire hour, you had Fincham, you had Borrelli, you had Colonel Rogers, absolutely incredible. | ||
| I think it was you or Borrelli said it's going to take whatever it takes and you'd rather have it accurate than fast. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| Interpret that for me because obviously everybody's all itchy for this. | ||
| You've spent four or five months doing it and Rachel Maddow's banging on you every night saying you've had three months, four months, five months. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| What's the process? | ||
| What's happening now behind the scenes that we're not seeing? | ||
| Well, guys like Doug Logan, who is the CEO of Cyber Ninjas, is absolutely buried. | ||
| And this is sort of an interesting anecdote now that you ask me. | ||
| A few nights ago, I got a text from a friend who said, Oh, I saw this online. | ||
| It is some detail from a whistleblower. | ||
| And I thought, Oh, do I want to bother Doug Logan with this? | ||
| I mean, it's probably a spurious input. | ||
| But then this little voice in me said, yeah, Wendy, forward it to him. | ||
| So I don't want to inundate him. | ||
| So I forwarded it to him. | ||
| You know what, Steve? | ||
| Two minutes later, he texted me back. | ||
| He goes, Senator, thank you for that. | ||
| I'm so buried in a dark little room. | ||
| I knew some of this, but I didn't know all of it. | ||
| Keep the inputs coming. | ||
| And I thought, oh my gosh, this was helpful to him. | ||
| So that pointed to the fact that he is hunkered down in a dark little room working day and night to get this done and to get it done right. | ||
| And we want to help him do that. | ||
| Maricopa County couldn't have been clearer about what they think about the process. | ||
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That letter they sent President Fan a couple weeks ago was not just snarky, it was... Disrespectful. | |
| It was disrespectful. | ||
| You know, Dominion at least comes, they show you the respect of sending an official, formal, you know, legal, where they say, hey, it's our intellectual property, you guys can't put your hands up. | ||
| I mean, the response is pretty rude, but they do it in a professional manner. | ||
| The unprofessionalism of Maricopa County, It leads, I think, the people that are following this to feel that they're going to not just fight every step of the way. | ||
| They're going to disregard it. | ||
| I mean, this is going to take forever. | ||
| What is your understanding of Brnovich, the AG, how they're working with you guys? | ||
| Because at some point in time, people are just going to have a fed up with it and say, hey, they want to see the rule of law. | ||
| They want to see subpoenas issued. | ||
| They want to see people follow the rule of law. | ||
| I have faith in Brnovich. | ||
| He, in effect, did an amicus brief showing earlier that he... Although he hasn't really been with us in this process. | ||
| You have faith in him? | ||
| I think he's coming around. | ||
| I think he will do the right thing. | ||
| Is that associated with him running for the Senate? | ||
| Or is it just that he's now got just old-time religion because revealed wisdom? | ||
| Hard to say. | ||
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But either way, you'll take it. | |
| I'm a glass half full kind of gal. | ||
| And he has until the 20th of August to do right. | ||
| And when you hit Maricopa County in its pocketbook, That was big. | ||
| Can you explain to people how important... Sonny Burrell, I think, came up with that idea. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So there's a thing called 1487, which is a bill that we got through several years ago at the behest of now Congressman Andy Biggs, that basically says if a lower echelon level of government does not comply with what the state of Arizona, the ultimate higher level of government, tells you to do, Then you will be found in non-compliance. | ||
| And so, a state legislator, such as Wendy Rogers or Sonny Borelli in this case, can say to the Attorney General, hey, the county is not compliant. | ||
| And so we want to use this action, 1487. | ||
| As leverage. | ||
| And oh, by the way, Attorney General Brnovich, if you find within 30 days of research that they've been non-compliant, we want you to hit them in the pocketbook, which means take away 10% of their state revenue share, which is about 61 to 63 million dollars. | ||
| And this cannot be appealed to a judge or a jury or a court or whatever. | ||
| It goes VFR Direct, right from the Attorney General to the State Treasurer, where those funds then are withheld. | ||
| So Maricopa County would have to explain to its citizens why 10% of their budget is now gone. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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That's leverage. | |
| Yes. | ||
| You think people say, anyway, we've got to bounce. | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| You're a hero of this movement. | ||
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People want to follow you nonstop. | |
| How do they follow you? | ||
| Well, I'm still on Facebook. | ||
| Wendy Rogers, Arizona. | ||
| Twitter WendyRogersAZ, GabTelegram, and RumbleWendyRogersAZ. | ||
| And please sign my petition to decertify. | ||
| We want a million signatures and we're already past 120,000. | ||
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Wow. | |
| They decertified the electors. | ||
| Colonel Rogers, your toughest bootlegger, as we say. | ||
| You're absolutely fantastic and a real leader. | ||
| I can tell you, watching this for three days, people gravitate to your leadership. | ||
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So this is extraordinary. | |
| Thank you for your bravery and what you do. | ||
| I get the easy job. | ||
| We cut the mics on and bring heroes like yourself up, so it's been easy. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back with another hero, Dave Clements, from New Mexico. | ||
| We return to the Cyber Symposium in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. | ||
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Be back here. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| We have to do in Texas what is needed to protect the citizens' votes of the Republic of Texas. | ||
| And that's what I told them. | ||
| I said, this can be done for a lot less than we're spending. | ||
| And it provides the legislature, who have constitutionally authorized an oversight arm, they can do penetration testing. | ||
| They can do randomized inspections. | ||
| They can make recommendations to the legislature on how to make the laws better. | ||
| We are watching the last couple of presentations, panels, at the Cyber Symposium in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. | ||
| Colonel Waldron down there addressing and talking about the process as we go forward. | ||
| We've got a very special guest here, Dave Clemmons has been one of the main speakers here on a panel. | ||
| Gave really a quite brilliant presentation today. | ||
| Can you summarize? | ||
| We're going to play it. | ||
| We played it on our live stream. | ||
| We're going to play it back later tonight. | ||
| What was the gist of your presentation? | ||
| And particularly, I think you were making the connection between the Chinese Communist Party and the hacking here through Senegal. | ||
| Just walk through, and you gave a great thing as a prosecutor about evidence. | ||
| What is evidence? | ||
| What's the quality of evidence? | ||
| Talk to us about that. | ||
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Yeah, well I tried to provide a parable of sorts, where we compare something that's simple And then you have something that's much more complex. | |
| Now the simple thing was a murder case that I prosecuted. | ||
| And it wasn't really simple, but it's much more simple than the vote trafficking operation that we've seen nationwide that stole an election. | ||
| So I drilled down on the evidence that was presented from a forensic standpoint, from recordings, from DNA, blood, you name it. | ||
| And we were able to fill the gaps and find and bring to justice people through racketeering statutes, fraud, money laundering, and then of course murder. | ||
| And the parable serves this purpose. | ||
| We also saw murder on November 3rd, which was the American people's vote. | ||
| And so there's some overlap between drug trafficking organizations and vote trafficking organizations. | ||
| And so we're tying together all the pieces. | ||
| And so from an evidence standpoint, I probably could have spent another few days up there, but that's all I had in the tank. | ||
| When you say a couple days, there's a couple things going on here. | ||
| First off, you've had the full forensic audits of all 50 states. | ||
| That movement, you guys, you and Seth Kessel, you gave some of those powerful presentations here. | ||
| The floor is full of state legislators. | ||
| That's their constitutional responsibility. | ||
| This thing is picking up. | ||
| You're on the America First audits and America First chatroom and channel on Telegram. | ||
| You have hundreds of thousands of people now involved. | ||
| Crowdsourcing. | ||
| And I think you've got all 50 states or you have all 50 states? | ||
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We have all 50 states and now we're over 250,000. | |
| A quarter of a million citizens. | ||
| All who are coming on in these crowdsourcing and everybody working, right? | ||
| This is not people laying around, you know, watching TV or something like that. | ||
| That movement is, and I want to talk about how energized it is. | ||
| Then you had what I said, Mike Lindell's air game, where you're going to show data, packet captures, all this. | ||
| There's a lot of controversy. | ||
| You've got cyber guys down there trying to get their 5 million. | ||
| You've got other guys running around. | ||
| People should understand, of the cyber people, I think it's two-thirds, one-third. | ||
| One-third are pretty hostile. | ||
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Right? | |
| It's just like the media. | ||
| The media here is probably 50-50. | ||
| It's not a ton of conservative media here. | ||
| There is some. | ||
| But there's much more hostile media. | ||
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Right? | |
| Daily Beast, Salon, CNN. | ||
| I mean, it's pretty broadly covered. | ||
| I think Media Matters got a full-time guy here. | ||
| And they're going into all the details. | ||
| Mike Lindell's got nothing. | ||
| So let's bifurcate this for a second. | ||
| You've always told me, hey, you've got to take information and it's got to be turned into evidence. | ||
| You've got to sift through the information and get to the evidence. | ||
| The reason you came on our show the first time, the reason I was so moved by you, you've gone through all 3,000... I saw you on your YouTube and I said, who's this guy? | ||
| You went through all 3,000 affidavits and said 2,000 of these are evidence in these different battleground states. | ||
| Where do we stand with Mike Lindell's overall thesis of the case of kind of the air game of relief here? | ||
| Is this a work in progress? | ||
| Is this a first step in a long journey? | ||
| Because Mike had envisioned he'd get Attorney Generals on board and next thing you know he'd be at the Supreme Court. | ||
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Well, I think the big surprise. | |
| I think everyone was ready to talk about packet captures. | ||
| That was the big thing. | ||
| We changed course for a reason, because we got this bombshell of the actual forensic images out of Mesa. | ||
| And forensic images are better than the packet captures. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Well, from just an evidentiary standpoint, you can basically figure out who, what, when, where, why. | ||
| And that's what you have to establish in order to authenticate evidence and get it to a court of law. | ||
| That's not to say that there isn't value to packet captures, but when that bombshell was dropped, There's a reason why we made an adjustment. | ||
| And I don't think that the Media Matters folks were ready for that. | ||
| I think they were looking for a trap to be set for Mr. Lindell. | ||
| A trap with NSA or FBI or something. | ||
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They said today that they caught a, not a red pill, but they caught something in the data itself. | |
| It's like a poison pill. | ||
| Poison pill, poison pill. | ||
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Yeah, so they have tried to infiltrate Absolutely. | |
| No doubt in my mind. | ||
| for months and in many respects they have and we've had plants. | ||
| These are bad actors but also people like the NSA, FBI, you think that has? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| No doubt in your mind? | ||
| No doubt in my mind. | ||
| We've been waging a battle. | ||
| I know they're going to blow you up now. | ||
| I know Media Matters is going to blow you up for being paranoid. | ||
| You seem like a pretty normal guy, a former prosecutor. | ||
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I have friends that are in the FBI, I have friends with the US military. | |
| Marshals. | ||
| You've worked enough with those guys to know. | ||
| I know who they are. | ||
| Not to say, and I know that there's good guys and I know that there's bad guys, but we had people, we had a presence here at this symposium, and I'm not speculating because I've talked with Colonel Phil Waldron. | ||
| Talk to us about that. | ||
| But we had two plants that were in there that were actually trying to get into our hacker rooms and leak information. | ||
| And there was an agreement that they had to wait before they shared the results. | ||
| Now, after the day, they can share the results, but we saw that because the enemy's trying to get heads up to pervert the truth and make sure that they don't get access to what's going on out there. | ||
| There's some other information that I can't share that's actually much scarier, but you obviously heard Mr. Lindell's announcement this morning about charges of assault. | ||
| Yeah, last night at the hotel, yes. | ||
| So we have antagonists and we also have Images of people that are well known within the Antifa circle. | ||
| So we have recordings and we're able to find out that these folks infiltrated the event as media journalists, but they are actually members of Antifa. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| Talk us through Colorado. | ||
| Why is the data part, not just the whistleblower, which Gateway Pundit had, not just the clerk who showed up, who's prepared to give testimony and talk of what's going on. | ||
| What is it about the data? | ||
| What is it about the data that's so important in the case you think has to be built? | ||
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Well, it's like a recording. | |
| You know, the parable that I established in my closing summation of the evidence was, it was very hard to convict based on the circumstantial evidence where you have to weigh a person's credibility. | ||
| Because we've had a lot of people that I find to be credible to the affidavits. | ||
| It's something else when you get a recording of the voice of the bad guy. | ||
| And in my case, we had that recording. | ||
| Here, you have a recording of the voice of another bad guy, and that's Dominion. | ||
| And so that's why it's so crucial, is that we can now state with certainty everything that we already knew. | ||
| Because they're withholding this under this intellectual property legal barrier. | ||
| And it's only being raised to make sure that we don't see it wrong. | ||
| Could they argue that, hey, we didn't do that, that was done by a group of clerks? | ||
| You guys are taking something that, and I'm not saying they're going to admit that it even happened, but could they not argue and say, hey look, I understand what you got there, but this was beyond our control, this was all managed by Mesa County, and clearly the clerks there, somebody when they were supposed to do this update in May, I think it was, It went back and it was inadvertently let go. | ||
| Do you think that's plausible? | ||
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You're asking me, will a liar tell a lie? | |
| Yes. | ||
| Let's make the case again. | ||
| Why do you think Dominion is a liar? | ||
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Well, you've got objective proof of John Paulos who testified under oath before Michigan about certain things. | |
| The machines don't connect to the internet. | ||
| We know conclusively that that is an outright lie. | ||
| As a prosecutor, there's no doubt? | ||
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There's no doubt. | |
| In fact, Vice President Eric Coomer, that's one of the videos I showed in my summation where he's talking about the ability to connect to the internet through the modems. | ||
| And so that's someone that's in his chain of command that's doing messaging and strategy. | ||
| So he committed perjury when he said that. | ||
| So that's a lie. | ||
| That's just one example. | ||
| Then you also talked about the vote-switching apparatus that we saw with Matthew DiPerno's expert in Michigan. | ||
| So we know that we've seen flipping votes. | ||
| We know that they can change the tapes. | ||
| We know that they can do all kinds of things. | ||
| It's not even... If I can simplify this... Sure. | ||
| When Mike was here, he was going to have data in his packet captures, but lead into the interaction with the machines. | ||
| Are you positing that what happened in Colorado, Well, what's huge is that we just got a little sliver of the analysis. | ||
| It's going to take them three weeks to go through it. | ||
| Of all the data? | ||
| We've got to go to all paper ballots. | ||
| We can't have machines anymore. | ||
| Is that what you think the outcome of this, the most positive and moving forward outcome of this symposium has been? | ||
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Well, what's huge is that we just got a little sliver of the analysis. | |
| It's going to take them three weeks to go through it. | ||
| Of all the data? | ||
| Of all the data in Mesa. | ||
| You've got an enhancer. | ||
| It's going to show the same thing. | ||
| We've got a preliminary view on that. | ||
| It's going to show the same destruction of logs, which is a violation of federal law. | ||
| They had to preserve them. | ||
| And then the question for your audience is, you've got 28 states using these machines. | ||
| If you're seeing that in two states, you have no choice but to ensure and look And make sure that you have an audit. | ||
| Make sure that you didn't have destruction of evidence in our election in all the states. | ||
| This is the key to the forensic audits in all the states. | ||
| It's a huge key. | ||
| And you're saying that it's not just battleground states. | ||
| You want audits of all 28 with machines and then obviously the rest of the states. | ||
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Well, yeah. | |
| We don't want to let ES&S, Hart, and the other voting machines off the hook. | ||
| They have the same vulnerabilities as Dominion. | ||
| But Dominion's been especially hostile. | ||
| I put myself out there since January and I made these claims I haven't wavered so I have an invitation I was very clear on day one that I know in my legal opinion which is also defendable under a court of law but they'll still sue you anyway That they're lying. | ||
| And there's absolutely interference, there's absolute machine vulnerability, and they're weaponizing lawsuits. | ||
| But if Dominion officials want to sit down with you, you would do that immediately? | ||
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| I know we've got another guest, we're going to try to jam it all in here. | ||
| Can you please stay with us? | ||
| with a short commercial break, we'll return to the Alliance Center in Sioux Falls, South Dakota in just a moment with David Clements. | ||
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| ♪ War Room, Pandemic ♪ Okay, we're live at the Cyber Symposium in Sioux Falls, South Dakota at the Alliance Center. | ||
| Now joined by the host of the Twelve News Show that follows War Room on Saturday, Lance Wallnau from Firewall. | ||
| Lance, thank you so much for joining us here. | ||
| Good to see you. | ||
| I know you've had a great time. | ||
| I want to ask you about your thoughts about this, but I've got to go back. | ||
| There's been this controversy of Mike Lindell's pushing forward this theory of the Chinese Communist Party directed it, used the machines to do it. | ||
| It's 80 million votes for Trump, 60 million votes for, 64 something for 78. | ||
| It's basically reversal. | ||
| He goes state by state and shows how it's flipped. | ||
| Then you've got the ground game movement here that's been kind of overwhelming, huge support of the state legislatures. | ||
| You've got your America First, which now has a quarter of a million. | ||
| What is coming out of here? | ||
| Because the media, I think, the biggest thing they're misreporting is that, oh, people are confused, people are angry. | ||
| What is the level of enthusiasm you see of people leaving here today to go forward to focus on the full forensic audits of all 50 states? | ||
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I think there's a righteous anger. | |
| I think that's what's come out of Mesa. | ||
| And it's validation for all the folks that have been saying, this is what dominions withholding. | ||
| And they've seen conclusive proof in Mesa. | ||
| That may seem like, are we talking about all 50 states? | ||
| We're not there yet, so we're not going to make any claims about that. | ||
| But when you talk about criminal prosecution, you start with reasonable suspicion. | ||
| And you have to affirm or dispel that suspicion by doing an investigation. | ||
| Right now, we're past that in Mesa. | ||
| We're past that in Anchorage. | ||
| When you say conclusive proof, for you, because you're not a guy who runs around with his hair on fire, when you say conclusive proof in your time as a prosecutor, walk me through the two or three things that you say, this is conclusive, Steve, there's just no doubt about it. | ||
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What is that? | |
| I look at this as burdens of proof that I've had to evaluate in my time as a prosecutor. | ||
| So reachable suspicion is a very low standard. | ||
| You think there's a crime? | ||
| Well, let's investigate it. | ||
| After that, you've got probable cause. | ||
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Because if you have probable cause, you can start doing something to a defendant. | |
| You can seize them. | ||
| You can arrest them. | ||
| To convict them and put them behind bars for any measure of time, you have to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. | ||
| So I've evaluated all of the evidence. | ||
| We're way past reasonable suspicion, but yet we're not ever offered the inquiry to get the investigation. | ||
| I mean, we're way past that. | ||
| We're way past probable cause. | ||
| I'm convinced that if I could actually have a jury and present this case, we'd get a conviction. | ||
| A federal judge, though, appointed by Donald Trump, yesterday in a federal court, said, hey, that the defamation suit against Sidney Powell, against Mike Lindell, against others, of smearing Dominion on some of these, and not even charges of that, but just other charges, can at least go forward in a civil suit to see if it weighs up. | ||
| Wouldn't that counteract that there's conclusive proof out there that they've done it? | ||
| Because you're not saying civil, you're saying actually criminal. | ||
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Yeah, and I stand by that. | |
| I think the problem with the case... We heard from Alan Dershowitz. | ||
| He's a preeminent constitutional scholar. | ||
| He knows the Times versus New York Times Sullivan decision inside and out. | ||
| He wrote one of the opinions, right? | ||
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Concurring opinions as a junior clerk. | |
| The problem isn't with the case. | ||
| The problem is that they have it out for Mike Lindell. | ||
| If you would have had any of your liberal elites as defendants in that case, the judge would have followed the law. | ||
| But was it Trump? This is a Trump-appointed conservative judge. | ||
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Hey, look, Trump has appointed a lot of people. | |
| And I don't think that we've completely evaluated who's a part of the election cartel, but I'm sure he wants some re-dos. | ||
| That's probably another one of them. | ||
| You think so, right there? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Lance, I've got to ask you. | ||
| You came here, open eyes. | ||
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You're a guy who wants to... I know you know the team at Real America's Voice very closely. | |
| You want to come here, weigh and measure. | ||
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What's your takeaway for the last couple of days? | |
| My takeaway is that, of course, we're looking for that because of the frustration. | ||
| We're looking for the silver bullet. | ||
| Like, where is the smoking gun? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| When you have this many fingerprints at a crime scene, it's like an O.J. | ||
| Simpson thing. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Can't somebody get an argument that works here? | ||
| But what I notice is that the movement itself is much more powerful When there's this element of ambiguity. | ||
| For this reason, the legislators got together here. | ||
| Now really, I was looking for China. | ||
| I was trying to find China here, but you know what we have to have? | ||
| The legislators have to meet each other. | ||
| Because the legislators, I walked through a meeting, and there they are, huddled together, and then I was listening to Steve's interview before I got out here, and I said, listen man, those legislators are finding courage by connecting. | ||
| This is going to be like the Tea Party on steroids. | ||
| This is an awakening that's going to rattle the halls and shake the... | ||
| We're going to watch one of the most phenomenal movements, I say, of God in American history because the frustration is building towards a crescendo and it's going to become self-organized. | ||
| This is key. | ||
| Everyone in this legislation has to have grassroots people. | ||
| And you guys have done such a brilliant job of crowdsourcing it. | ||
| People, just not listen to talk radio anymore. | ||
| Just not listen to Fox. | ||
| Get involved. | ||
| Get there. | ||
| You've got a skill set. | ||
| We can put you to work. | ||
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Here, you saw the state legislators, which is this whole floor was got people elected officials. | |
| They started to bond. | ||
| And I think it was the commonality when they heard the kind of things that were going on. | ||
| They started to bond. | ||
| And Wendy Rogers called it actually a caucus. | ||
| We started to caucus over all 50 states. | ||
| You're seeing something here. | ||
| The mainstream media is mocking and ridiculing Mike Lindell. | ||
| And kind of the thing it's done, it's bonded people together. | ||
| And understanding on the Mike Lindell air game, because this is all ground game, People understand that's a process that's got to start. | ||
| Maybe we're not going to be at the Supreme Court with five state attorney generals on the 15th of August. | ||
| But people are smart enough and have enough grit to say, hey look, we're going to figure this out. | ||
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That's right. | |
| Look at the individual heroes rising up. | ||
| I'm so impacted by the stories of CEOs and attorneys like yourself who are willing to step into this F5 tornado of assault. | ||
| And they don't have any organization behind them. | ||
| They're doing it out of principle. | ||
| This is what made America great in its start, and this is what's going to make America great again. | ||
| Individual courage, building its own coalitions, then moving as one. | ||
| So tell us how does America First audits? | ||
| How do you get to 500,000? | ||
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Well, hopefully folks are tuning in now, and they're excited about what they've seen. | |
| Have they liked what they've seen in the last couple of days when you're in those chat rooms, when you're on Telegram? | ||
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I think we turned the corner yesterday. | |
| I think, again, the Mesa forensic images from Dominion was just a watershed moment. | ||
| And so we provide the analogy of, like, we're on the beaches of Normandy. | ||
| We're ready to fight. | ||
| We're ready to storm forward. | ||
| We haven't won. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Got a long way to Berlin. | ||
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But we're fighting. | |
| And so we're just waiting for that audit domino to drop in Maricopa. | ||
| Everyone's waiting. | ||
| We've got our weapons. | ||
| We've got our quartermasters. | ||
| We've got the information. | ||
| We've got the intel. | ||
| And now it's about advancing. | ||
| I want to go back to Lance to your comment about a smoking gun instead of fingerprints. | ||
| As I said from the stage the other day, I paraphrased Churchill. | ||
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I would consider this the end of the beginning. | |
| And we're nine months into this, right? | ||
| This has been a grind. | ||
| And I know people are impatient. | ||
| But your thoughts are going forward. | ||
| I want to start with Lansing and you, because people have to understand, this is unique in American history. | ||
| There's never been a forensic audit to question at this level. | ||
| There's been contested elections before, particularly in the 19th century. | ||
| There's laws supposed to take care of it. | ||
| Obviously, Nixon, Kennedy. | ||
| But this is the first one where the people rose up and said, no. | ||
| This is so blatant, so obvious. | ||
| When I hear Seth Kessler tell me that, What should people gird themselves for? | ||
| This is not going to get solved tomorrow, and there's not going to be a smoky gun that's going to pop up tomorrow morning. | ||
| What should people gird themselves for? | ||
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No worries. | |
| And that's why every county and every state has to have this audit. | ||
| That's why the movement about revealing what happened on November 3rd by going to every state, and the fact that we now know that we cannot trust Republicans any more than Democrats. | ||
| This was a big aha. | ||
| I consider myself part of the learning curve out there. | ||
| I got on with Donald Trump like probably two million of the people that I'm in the orbit of, my friends and social media groups. | ||
| We got involved because we saw something happening in America and got attracted to Trump. | ||
| As a faith community, he really was a big stretch for us, because we're all looking for a nice evangelical Sunday school Baptist pastor, and he was the exact opposite. | ||
| Which proved to me he was an act of God. | ||
| And he succeeded. | ||
| He succeeded. | ||
| So now we're in, and we're getting a massive civics lesson. | ||
| Even what you said a little while ago was like, uh-huh. | ||
| Because I'm here looking for the packet captors. | ||
| All Mike was saying, the packet captors. | ||
| Wait till you see the packet captors. | ||
| I'm looking for packet captors, then I find that it's forensic images. | ||
| We're on a learning curve every day. | ||
| That's why we listen to War Room. | ||
| Because every day I'm finding out new nuances of understanding. | ||
| Steve has to break down the economics and what this debt infrastructure is going to be. | ||
| And we're all pulling our hair out, but it's feeding a movement. | ||
| Well, what I would say is that the fingerprints, it's like, I refer to what happened on November 3rd as death by a thousand cuts. | ||
| That's a lot of band-aids we need to start applying. | ||
| That's a lot of band-aids. | ||
| And so, each of these audits, we're trying to heal. | ||
| We're trying to heal the election system. | ||
| We're going to put some aloe vera on there. | ||
| We're going to get those band-aids on. | ||
| But we have to diagnose what the injury is before we apply the medicine. | ||
| And that's why it's crucial that we get to the bottom of November 3rd. | ||
| Lance, I want to go back to you. | ||
| What's your call to action? | ||
| As you leave here, you've got a great show. | ||
| And by the way, the show's Firewall. | ||
| And by the way, this Saturday we're going to have an incredible show. | ||
| We're actually going to have live coverage of Sturgis, right? | ||
| See Patriots out there. | ||
| We'll be in the DC studios, the core team. | ||
| But we're going to be in Sturgis and other places to follow up on what happened here the last couple of days. | ||
| Lance, what's your call to action coming out of here to the folks that follow you and to the social media groups around? | ||
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Well, the call to action is going to be, every state legislator needs to know, in your state, you're behind. | |
| Because if we're going to have an audit, if we're going to have an analysis of every county, then every state has to be hearing from its people. | ||
| It's not enough to do a Facebook post or to send your friends a tweet, you have to actually Rattle the pots and pans. | ||
| You have to get familiar with the infrastructure in your own state. | ||
| And it's America First on Telegram. | ||
| That's a great place to go. | ||
| And Steve, you're doing a great job for all of us because you're pointing people like Normandy. | ||
| There's Omaha Beach. | ||
| There's Utah Beach. | ||
| You have to land on a beach and move forward. | ||
| You can't be just abstract and talk about, we're going to win the war. | ||
| You have to actually go somewhere. | ||
| And you have to support these initiatives. | ||
| And there's so much courage that comes from a brave person standing up, that if we can pull together behind him, my call to action is, I want to see a hundred more thousand people added to what you've got already working on this America First movement there. | ||
| And I want to begin to start to look at, how do we get informed better? | ||
| Peter Navarro has that whole report. | ||
| I would like to see a summary of this. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| A white paper to come out of here. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| That's what we need. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| A summary. | ||
| Talk to us. | ||
| What's your call to action? | ||
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Well, we just witnessed a lot of truth. | |
| My call to action is this, is we need to stop buying the lie of having to have 100% confidence in this. | ||
| That's not what this is about. | ||
| This is about having the freedom to investigate, to make sure that our elections are safe and secure. | ||
| And the fact that we are being stopped, railroaded at every point, shows you the culpability and the guilt. | ||
| And if you haven't seen that over the past three days, I don't know what to tell you, but we are entitled To make sure that our votes remain sacred. | ||
| One thing you've seen here, you see this in every fourth tourney, people stepping up, they're just average citizens. | ||
| One thing I think for our audience, a call to action, we've got to take the burden off the shoulders of Michael Mell. | ||
| That's what I think is so powerful. | ||
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I would say within 90 days, I think we're going to do another symposium. | |
| We ought to bring together more patriots and hear the word out and see the progress being made on his data search. | ||
| There's controversy about that. | ||
| This is a process. | ||
| The end game is going to be when we've had full forensic audits of all 50 states. | ||
| And I think it's now time for people, we've got to take the burden off of Mike Lindell. | ||
| One man can't drive this whole thing. | ||
| And look, he's an incredible hero and he's a guy that's galvanized people. | ||
| But other people gotta step up, and I think you're seeing what America First off of your show, Real America's Voice, One America. | ||
| And by the way, these state legislatures have put it all at risk. | ||
| You know, CEOs have put it at risk, lawyers have put it at risk. | ||
| State legislatures are prepared to be mocked and ridiculed by the media. | ||
| It's time now to take the burden off Lyndell. | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
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Lance Walna, W-A-L-L-N-A-U. | |
| As long as I'm on all these platforms, you can catch me everywhere. | ||
| And your show's amazing. | ||
| It's at noon, Firewall, right after War Room. | ||
| We'll start doing a better pitch. | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
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Telegram, The Professor's Record, or at my website, theprofessorsrecord.com. | |
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be back. | ||
| We're going to wrap up our coverage here from Alliance Center. | ||
| This Alliance Center is absolutely amazing. | ||
| People in South Dakota, The entire state, the Military Heritage Alliance is just absolutely incredible. | ||
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We're going to return to the conclusion of the cyber symposium in downtown Sioux Falls, South Dakota Be back in a moment War room pandemic with Stephen K | |
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| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back to Sioux Falls, South Dakota. | ||
| We're at the Cyber Symposium, now joined by Colonel Darren Gabb. | ||
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Colonel, you've been here all week. | |
| You're not a cyber guy. | ||
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No, I'm not. | |
| Tell us what your takeaway of this. | ||
| You run one of these grassroots groups that are starting to expand throughout the country. | ||
| You want to get back to not just an original interpretation of the Constitution, but kind of make sure that we have the consent of the governed. | ||
| That's the center of what you're working on. | ||
| What is your takeaway? | ||
| Because the media is saying everybody's dispirited. | ||
| No, they didn't get the CCP, the data didn't line up. | ||
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What is your take on it? | |
| Well, like you said, first of all, I can't speak to the cyber side of things. | ||
| I don't have any experience in that, but I've been walking around the building a lot and connecting with a lot of different people, and anybody who says that there's not an energy here, they're obviously not here, and the media has it wrong. | ||
| People here are extremely motivated, and when they hear that All 50 states are here, and all 50 state legislatures. | ||
| We're going to go back, and however they do it, they're going to get involved in this. | ||
| Even my home state of Montana, everybody thinks, well, we're a red state, we're number one. | ||
| Montana, Trump won 70-30, right? | ||
| What are you guys complaining about in Montana? | ||
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We want to make sure it stays that way. | |
| You want to get down to the receipts? | ||
| Do you believe Montana needs a full forensic audit? | ||
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I do, absolutely. | |
| All 56 counties. | ||
| We have six that are our main focus, but if you're going to spend the time doing six, 436. | ||
| Let's do the rest. | ||
| Do it all. | ||
| Let's make sure we're right. | ||
| Get people back to the point where they're confident in our election systems. | ||
| Okay, you run a group. | ||
| It's an expanding grassroots group out of Montana. | ||
| It's called Restored Liberty. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| What do you mean Restored Liberty? | ||
| I know a lot of people say we're losing our liberty, but you've got patriots together. | ||
| And what differentiates you from these other grassroots groups? | ||
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Well, that's a good question, Steve. | |
| A lot of people ask us that exact same question. | ||
| One of the things is that we really are truly a whole bunch of volunteers who are highly motivated to get back to constitutional government. | ||
| And not only are we saying we want to be able to do that, but we're going to put that into action through Uh, identifying and vetting of candidates that are truly constitutional. | ||
| We're tired of going with the lesser of two evils approach. | ||
| And we've won. | ||
| By the way, since Nixon, we've won more elections than we've lost. | ||
| And I keep saying, we've lost the country, but we've won all these elections, but lost the country. | ||
| How did that work? | ||
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I don't think I understand the question totally. | |
| We've won so many elections since Nixon, but you see right now, we've lost the country, right? | ||
| I mean, we're fighting to make sure that we keep this constitutional republic. | ||
| You see what's happening in the military. | ||
| You see our CRT in the schools. | ||
| You see the situation with the vaccines. | ||
| If you're vaccine-hesitant, it doesn't count. | ||
| The Marxist left has just flipped over their cards, right, and dropped it. | ||
| And so, it's not just about winning elections. | ||
| You have to win elections with the right people that have the right principles. | ||
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Yeah, absolutely. | |
| With Restore Liberty, we don't care about party. | ||
| We care about the Constitution and we care about we the people. | ||
| We own the government, so we should take ownership of the government and identify those people who are worthy of service to the American people. | ||
| And often those are the kind of people that, well, they don't even want to run for office in the first place. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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And I'll give you a good example. | |
| My wife is running for the mayor in Helena, Montana. | ||
| That's the state capitol, right? | ||
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It is the state capitol. | |
| I imagine there's a couple or three liberals there? | ||
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There's a few. | |
| There's a few. | ||
| Why would she want to do that? | ||
| Being married to you I'm sure is hard enough. | ||
| Why would she want to take on being mayor? | ||
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She wanted to absolutely have a choice. | |
| It's the first time she's running for something? | ||
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She's never run for anything and she didn't even want to this time. | |
| But he was going to walk in uncontested and nobody else was going to have the choice to make... He had no opposition. | ||
| No opposition. | ||
| And now he does. | ||
| So that's, to me, when someone says they don't want to do this, but they're going to do it anyways. | ||
| One of the reasons I find you fascinating and other people here is that there's so many veterans. | ||
| Here, I'll bet you 60%, 65% of the people associate either veterans or married to veterans, etc. | ||
| What is the call to action to veterans? | ||
| The backbone of the Trump movement, the backbone of the Patriot movement, what's your call to action? | ||
| You spent, what, 28 years? | ||
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| You're a Black Hawk pilot? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Army Colonel, what is your call to patriots out there, particularly veterans, to say, hey, look, I did my time. | ||
| I served my country. | ||
| I had 10 deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan. | ||
| Enough already. | ||
| I just want some peace and quiet and spend time with the kids. | ||
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Well, I'd say, first of all, you took an oath and that oath doesn't end. | |
| And I wanted to stay in Montana. | ||
| Oath to defend the Constitution? | ||
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Oath to defend the Constitution. | |
| Oath to defend the people. | ||
| And that oath doesn't have an expiration date. | ||
| It really doesn't and that is as true for me as any veteran out there and anybody who does take that oath. | ||
| If you take that oath seriously, now is the time to get involved because it tells us that we need to protect our nation from all enemies, foreign and domestic, and I'll let people Take that for what it's worth, but you've got to get involved. | ||
| I talk to veterans across the country all the time and currently serving active-duty military and they're starting to realize that often what we're seeing now is we've got a very dedicated opposition inside our own borders trying to remove The liberty that we have left. | ||
| And trample on the Constitution. | ||
| Did you ever think on the deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan that the situation in our country would be where you actually had to have groups that came and said we need to defend the Constitution? | ||
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No. | |
| I never saw any of this happening, frankly. | ||
| I was in Afghanistan helping plan some of the election work for them. | ||
| We've put a lot more effort and time and money and other resources to secure their elections And we do to our own. | ||
| It's embarrassing. | ||
| Social media. | ||
| How do people find out about Restored Liberty? | ||
| How do people sign up? | ||
| How do they join in all 50 states? | ||
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We're at restored-liberty.org is our website and you can see our declaration on there. | |
| This is where you lay out the 17 principles? | ||
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We lay out the 17 principles on there. | |
| We want it to be signed digitally and signed on paper and mailed. | ||
| You can't delete that. | ||
| That's where you start, and there's a lot more to it. | ||
| We've got a four-pillar plan. | ||
| We don't have time to get to all of it right now, but it starts there. | ||
| By the way, particularly people that have been veterans, you've got to take a hard look at this. | ||
| It could be the grassroots organization for you. | ||
| Okay, a couple programming notes. | ||
| We're going to continue on Real America's Voice Rumble. | ||
| I think there's another maybe hour or two left here. | ||
| Also, stay on warroom.org. | ||
| We're going to continue on with our coverage of the symposium of Mike Lindell. | ||
| We're closing remarks with Dawson and talk about more evidence and going forward. | ||
| I'm a big advocate of the... I think there ought to be another one of these in 90 days. | ||
| I think we've got to continue to do these. | ||
| And the reason is bringing people together in righteous indignation. | ||
| I've never seen anything like it. | ||
| The energy here was palatable. | ||
| And this movement is just really about to start. | ||
| The 3 November Movement. | ||
| Full forensic audits in all 50 states. | ||
| May drive the left nuts, but it's got to be done. | ||
| We've got to get to the bottom of what happened on the 3rd of November. | ||
| Okay, Stephen K. Dunham. | ||
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We'll be back tomorrow, live, 10 a.m., in the War Room. | |
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