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Episode 1,121 – Dirty Dozen: The 12 Most Dangerous People in America Pt. 2Episode 1,121 – Dirty Dozen: The 12 Most Dangerous People in America Pt. 2
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Well, the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
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Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
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One of our more important specials, right?
We've done specials on the CCP in China and Wuhan lab over the last year and a half.
We started the show back on 23 January.
Okay, to get to the bottom of exactly what's happening in Wuhan, Hubei province, and with the Chinese Communist Party at the very early stages of this pandemic.
Now honored to have Robert F. Kennedy join us by phone.
He's the author of an upcoming book in the fall that I know our audience is going to want to pile into.
That book is The Real Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health.
Once again, Robert, we're traveling by phone this time.
The Surgeon General says the most urgent public health crisis today is misinformation.
They cite a study by a group called the Center for, you know, about digital hate.
Your reference in there, your organization's reference in there, they're trying to ban you on certain, deplatform you on certain social media apparatuses.
I mean, what say you?
what what are you doing that would have the surgeon general go the white house and actually call out and cite some study that list you as the number two guy when you come from on the more prominent families in the history of american politics and you've had a a career of uh... of uh...
working for liberal causes and working for the environment and other areas that you thought were the uh... right thing to do for the american people in particularly for the common man and woman why all the sudden are you not just a posse but you're one of the central villains which they're implying which i grew doctor malone that you're essentially and other people like doctor mccall and erin elizabeth and tied bollinger and strolling bones are the people we talk today are really at at at really the driving force of sixty five percent of misinformation that's leading people to die
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robert f kennedy junior your response to it well we don't travel but you know my organization is children's health defense We don't traffic in misinformation.
robert f kennedy-jr
We don't promote misinformation.
We don't even give recommendations.
We just give the solid information.
Every statement that we make on Children's Health Defense's website and that I make in my publications is cited and sourced to peer-reviewed publications or government databases.
The idea The term misinformation, as they use it, has nothing to do with falsehood.
It is simply a description, it's a euphemism for any statement that departs from official narratives, from official government proclamations, or from the profit interests of these pharmaceutical cartels.
Listen, we have on our advisory board Dr. Luke Montanir, who won the Nobel Prize for discovering the HIV virus in 1993.
We have the former head director of the National Toxicity Program of HHS.
We have 212 prominent PhD scientists and physicians.
None of those people would be on our board or would have anything to do with us.
If we were not scrupulous about making sure that every piece of information that we publish is accurate.
When I was thrown off the Instagram, the item that they flagged was an item in which I said that we should have an investigation about whether or not the coronavirus was the lab leak from the Wuhan lab.
Oh, And they, and Instagram said that even, like, you know, I didn't even tell you it was, because we didn't know at that time.
I said, there's enough evidence that we ought to investigate this.
That was flagged as misinformation.
I was evicted from Instagram.
So now, last week, the National Intelligence Services said, yes, that indeed is at least a 50% probability.
And so it has nothing to do with whether or not it's accurate or not.
And in fact, the Facebook has now acknowledged this, that its algorithms have nothing to do with evicting inaccuracy or flagging inaccuracy.
Its algorithms are coordinated with the United States government.
To reinforce and support government policies and anything with any information that is contrary or that it disagrees with government statements or government policies is going to get evicted whether or not it's false or true.
steve bannon
Let me ask you about that narrative then.
How is it that Big Pharma, that essentially at one time, I'm not saying they were close to Big Tobacco, but there were many people, particularly on the left, and I'm not trying to politicize this, but particularly on the left, but some on the right, were saying that Big Pharma was too big, too out of control, not giving information, not giving the right information.
How did we get in a situation Well, you know, that is a long, evolving process.
talk about the government's narrative, the big pharma's narrative and the government's narrative is kind of merged into one thing. How did we get into that situation?
robert f kennedy-jr
Well, you know, that is a long evolving process. And, you know, the pharmaceutical industries have been hollowing out these agencies, the government agencies, and developing financial entanglements that has put the whole phenomenon of agency capture on steroids.
So about 45% of CDC's annual budget goes toward purchasing vaccines from these four companies from Merck, Sanofi, Glaxo, and Pfizer.
And then redistributing them.
So CDC is actually a vaccine company.
It owns patents to the products that it's supposed to be regulating.
It makes money on those products.
FDA gets 50% of its budget now from pharma, and NIH owns thousands of patents for pharmaceutical companies, including half the patents for the Moderna vaccine.
And not only can NIH collect royalties from that vaccine, which is supposed to be regulating, but also individuals within high-level individuals who Tony Fauci chooses to handpick are each entitled to margin rights for those patents.
So they will get patent royalties between four and six individuals who he has chosen.
We'll get patent royalties of $150,000 a year for life from the Moderna vaccine.
Now, this is the agency that's supposed to be regulating that.
How can it regulate it when it essentially is partnered with the industry and is making money on that product?
The regulatory agencies are no longer doing regulation.
They're doing vaccine promotion, and the metrics that they Promote people with the way that people get bonuses in those agencies.
The way that you get promotions and that you're recognized as a leader and elevated is if you do a good job of of ensuring high levels of vaccine uptake.
So it has nothing to do with public health anymore.
It has to do with how many vaccines you distribute and sell and they've completely detached from the initial purpose of those agencies which is to protect public health.
steve bannon
Besides the financial considerations, economic considerations, you get when you hear this over and over again.
That they believe in either a big lie or they believe, excuse me, a noble lie.
That they have some sort of secret knowledge or they understand science better than people like yourselves, the Children's Defense, you know, your institution, others, even people like Dr. Malone.
Do you believe it's something more than just financial?
Do you think that they actually believe they have the answers and that you disseminate information to, quite frankly, the masses that are not, don't have enough education to really make decisions about themselves, even if they, you know, if they, even if they're very focused on immunity or, you know, living a healthy lifestyle, that this knowledge is just so over their heads that they, that only an elect can make those decisions?
Robert?
robert f kennedy-jr
Well, you know what?
If you actually look, I've talked to people at most agencies.
My family has long relationships with the public health agencies.
I know Tony Fauci.
I know Francis Collins.
I've spoken to Kathleen Stratton and Marie McCormick at the Institute of Medicine, and met with Peter Marks over at Cyber and FDA.
So I kind of have an idea of how they think about this, and there's a There's a big diversity.
You know, some of them actually know that what they're doing is harmful.
Most of them are just subsumed in the orthodoxy, and that is a human phenomenon.
There is basically a biological impulse that all of us have to protect these institutions, to follow authoritarian figures, and there's a small group of people in those agencies, and Tony Fauci is one of them, that actually understands the full implications of the harm that they are imposing on humanity.
But, you know, it's like the Catholic Church.
During the pedophile scandal, there was a very, very small number, comparatively, although it was still large, of priests who were actually victimizing and preying on children.
The majority of people in the church were not doing that, but everybody got subsumed and implicated in the crime because they all felt that the institution was more important than the children that they were supposed to be protecting.
And they persuaded themselves that by hiding these things by Moving these priests around, and it wasn't just the church, it wasn't just, you know, the other priests, it was the Monsignors, it was the bishops, it was the archbishops, the cardinals, all the way to the Vatican.
It became subsumed in this orthodoxy that we have to hide this, we have to conceal what we've done, because if people lose faith in this institution, it will be catastrophic for society as a whole, and it wasn't just the church.
It was the police.
It was the prosecutors.
It was the newspapers.
If you look at that movie Spotlight that won the Oscar, you know, the Boston Globe got all of these kudos for finally breaking the story.
But the real story behind it was that the Boston Globe knew that this was happening for 25 years before they finally broke it.
So you have different levels of knowledge all the way up and down the ladder with just a handful of people at the very top, people like Colleen Boyle at CDC, like Tony Fauci.
Francis Collins has no clue.
He's just a usefully idiot.
Tony Fauci manipulates him like a puppet on strings.
They're not reading signs.
When we met with them, You know, the president ordered them to meet with us, and when we met with them, we laid out the science.
They could not dispute it.
And then they said, oh, we have science that shows that we've tested these vaccines.
French scholars had no clue.
It was all these lower-level people who say, yeah, we got the science, we got the science.
And we said, OK, show it to us.
And they were completely unable to do that.
We then sued them and said, show us the study that shows that these products are safe.
And after a year of litigation, they came back and they said, we've never done a safety study on any of the 72 vaccines currently mandated for children.
There's not a single pre-licensing placebo study for any of those vaccines.
Well, no other medical product in the world.
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Robert, can you just hang on one second?
steve bannon
We'll take a short commercial break.
We'll return with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Dr. Malone, and others in The War Room in just a second.
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steve bannon
Okay, we've got Dr. Malone with us, and our guest is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
He's the author of an upcoming book, The Real Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health.
Robert, you just mentioned a meeting you had with the staff at NIH and NIAID, where you confronted them about you hadn't really done studies on all these vaccines, and at the end of the day, when you said put up or shut up, they couldn't do it.
Is that the real Anthony Fauci?
He's been promoted by mainstream media as a saint, even over at Neil Cavuto at Fox News.
We've got a very different opinion, given what we know about the Wuhan lab.
And we're like, look, I'm not an anti-vax guy.
I just want to see the information.
But I know in Wuhan lab he's been lying from the beginning, and we've proven that.
Here's how you need to understand Anthony Fauci.
This kind of obsequious adulation that the news media shows toward him is dazzling.
robert f kennedy-jr
Here's how you need to understand, and if you have any doubts, you can read this kind of obsequious adulation that the news media shows toward him is dazzling, because if you look at his record even during the pandemic, the United States had among the worst records We have like 1,600 deaths per million in our country.
Compare that to Cuba, which has about 30.
Norway, 44.
Countries like Germany that are a tiny fraction of the death rate.
So how can you say we're, you know, that he managed this successfully?
When we had some of the worst death rates per population on the planet, and if you look at his lifelong record, he's been there 50 years.
When he came, the chronic disease rate among American children, so these are neurological diseases, autoimmune diseases, and allergic diseases, was 6%.
Today it's 54%.
And that's his job to find out what's causing allergic autoimmune diseases and stop it.
And we now have the sickest generation in American history.
We have, of all the population of the world, we are number 75 among the top richest nations in the world in terms of our health outcomes.
How is that?
It's Tony Fauci.
What he has done is he's taken that agency, which Congress created to find the source of infectious diseases, of allergic diseases, of neurological diseases, of autoimmune diseases, and he's cut off all the money for doing his job, which is to find those and eliminate the sources.
And instead he's turned that agency into an incubator pharmaceutical product.
So he has a $6.1 billion annual budget from us, the taxpayer.
He gets another $1.6 billion from the military.
And that's why, by the way, he has to do gain of function.
He has to do weapons technology because otherwise he'd lose all that military money.
So he gives out 13 times what Bill Gates gives out every year.
He's the most powerful person in public health in history.
NIH has 300,000 researchers around the world that are funded by this huge flow of money that's coming basically from the core determined by Tony Fauci.
And what he does is he develops vaccines and drugs in his lab.
He farms them out to university scientists who are called PIs.
These are the virologists, the vaccinologists, the most powerful people.
These are the guys who you see on CNN every night.
The doctors like Mark Kaplan, Peter Hotez, and Paul Offit, who present themselves as independent scientists, but they're all on Tony Fauci's payroll.
All the people who sit on those boards, you know, the FDA boards, and it's called VRBAC and the CDC board, ACIP, that approves new drugs, They're all taking money from Johnny Fauci, they are all completely dependent on him.
He can, he has the power to make careers, to ruin any scientist on the earth who does science that he doesn't like, because he's giving, what he does, he takes these drugs, he creates new drugs in his labs, he farms them out
The University of Sciences, who are the most powerful people in those universities, the deans, the chairman of the department, they do the clinical trials.
So it was like a phase one trial goal of 100 people.
Fauci pays $20,000 per patient to that scientist.
The university skims off half, so now the university is involved in supporting Fauci.
Then you go to phase two and he's got 10,000 people.
And he's giving these hundreds of millions of dollars to each of these universities, to Baylor, to Harvard, to Columbia, to Berkeley, and you have these very, very outstanding scientists who everybody respects, but they are not independent.
He owns them all.
And that's how he controls these global narratives.
Listen, every virologist in the world, every single one, without one exception, ...knew that coronavirus was lab-generated for a year.
Anybody who looks up at genetics like protein sequence knew that.
Why did the Omerta hold for a full year?
Why did nobody speak up of those tens of thousands of virologists around the world, years wide?
Because anybody who speaks up is permanently bankrupted.
Their careers are totally destroyed.
So all of them kept their mouths shut because they are all on Tony Fauci's payroll.
And he's able, if there's a young scientist who shows up at Columbia or Baylor University and says, Hey, there's these big databases out there from the HMOs.
I want to study whether autism is being caused by vaccines.
The second he files a proposal, His dean will get a call from one of Fauci's deputies who says, if you let this clown go forward with that study, we are going to bankrupt your university.
Because not only is the university getting money from Fauci, but they get part of the patent.
The individual scientist gets to keep part of the patent.
Fauci gets to keep part of the patent for his agency, and he gets to assign patent rights to his loyal deputies.
So all of these people are making huge amounts of money, and that's why, you know, any scientist at NIH who has ever spoken up against the pharmaceutical industry, whether it's Bernie Eddy, whether it's John Anthony Martin, whether it's Judy Mikovits, all of them get their careers immediately destroyed.
So how did Tony Fauci last for 50 years at that agency?
He is the J. Edgar Hoover of public health.
He did it by signing his solar way and making these corrupt deals with the pharmaceutical industry, which keeps him in power.
steve bannon
Robert, real quickly, because we're running out of time, I've got to ask you though, what you've described as a monster, but that's a monster kind of of our own creation.
I mean, we're supposed to have, we have Congress, we have administrations, he's gone through Republicans and Democrats, times when the Democrats ran the House, times when the Republicans ran it, different Republican administrations, Democratic administrations.
How did what you just described as this monster, literally a Frankenstein of our own creation, how did this happen?
robert f kennedy-jr
You know, that's a long historical question because part of it is that pharmaceutical companies just put so much money into American politics and they, you know, they own it.
But the Democrats for many years were independent, let's say, of the pharmaceutical company, but there was an evolution that took place beginning in the 80s and 90s when a lot of these public health Um, could be like Fauci.
First Mother's Empress.
unidentified
We just lost Robert Kennedy.
steve bannon
We'll try to get him back up.
Dr. Malone, we just got a couple of minutes in this segment.
We're going to be coming back.
Give us your assessment of what Robert Kennedy said so far.
You've been someone very associated with this apparatus for many, many decades.
dr robert malone
Yeah, Tony is a wicked street fighter.
And it's true.
unidentified
He retaliates.
I keep going back to the ones.
dr robert malone
One of the things that RFK is not hitting on completely is Tony has never succeeded in making a vaccine.
One of his primary directives has been to battle AIDS.
But AIDS has been handled through largely the idea of Dr. David Ho with multi-drug therapy.
There has never been a successful vaccine out of NIAID or the VRC until arguably the Moderna product.
So this is his first win.
And he has buggered up a bunch of other programs by imposing his Uh, personal beliefs on key decisions.
Uh, the, one of the pivotal HIV vaccine, uh, trials never would have gone forward except for Carl Alving was able to manipulate the politics enough that, uh, the DOD was able to sponsor that trial in Thailand.
So this is a long history and I can tell you, I, I worked the hill from time to time.
I'm not a registered lobbyist, but they love him.
The only one that I've ever run into, now Rand Paul is carrying the torch, was Arlen Specter.
You can go back in the old archives and find Arlen Specter putting Tony on notice regarding some of his assertions about Pax vaccine programs, but Tony basically plays the same kind of strategy that any pharma or biotech would in lobbying Wall Street.
Except for he does it with the hill, and he does it extremely effectively.
They love him on both sides, and they have heard for generations.
steve bannon
Okay, short commercial break.
Back with Aaron Elizabeth, Ty, and Charlene Bollinger.
Dr. Malone will return in The War Room.
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steve bannon
Okay, for anybody who hasn't had a chance to do the readings or hear Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
speak, he was that impressive when he met with Donald J. Trump, then President-elect, in, I think it was in December of 2016, right after he won, to talk, walk through all of the things he was working on.
So we had technical problems at the end.
We're going to have him back hopefully sometime this coming week.
His new book, The Real Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Big Pharma, Global War on Democracy and Public Health.
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Okay, I want to bring in now Erin Elizabeth, and I want to put up an article.
It's breaking on New York Times.
During the War Room.
I think they saw, I think the New York Times editor saw our Dirty Dozen special and put it up.
It's a headline in the New York Times.
Just broke that Dr. Mercola, the top of the Dirty Dozen in the biggest spread of misinformation in the country is Dr. Mercola.
Erin Elizabeth, you're a reporter.
You've been on this, in this area for a long time.
You're also listed as one of the The Dirty Dozen.
What is it that you've done, or Dr. Mercola's done, that now has the New York Times calling him out in a headline, and has the Surgeon General saying an urgent public health threat is caused by the information that you, Dr. Mercola, and others are putting out?
erin elizabeth
Hi, Steve.
I think why I'm in that article as well, part of the reason is because we're bringing the truth.
Just like Bobby Kennedy said, it's not that we're posting misinformation as much as we're talking about things before they actually become a fact, like with the laboratory.
And granted, we don't know for certain.
Well, you know, with the lab, there's no definitive proof, they say.
But yeah, we're just bringing the truth to the people before We're bringing the truth to the people before they know it, so I think that's really upsetting to them.
I was blocked on all social media channels, Facebook, Instagram, or I should say all Facebook channels, groups, millions of followers, completely deleted, and they blocked both my URLs, but they don't like when we're sharing the truth, and I'm so honored to be with these other 11, technically 12 others, because there's 13, but they do not want us to
steve bannon
Can you answer the question because one of the things they say is they say look you guys are not qualified by education or training and also you take a little bit of tiny truth and you wrap it into a whole lot of speculation or conspiracy and that you can convince or at least befuddle
The unwashed masses, right, that don't have the scientific or logical nature that they can make informed decisions and therefore you muddle the universe and that's why you guys are the perpetrators and you're doing this all just to make money.
At the end of the day you don't have a moral reason for doing it, you're not trying to save humanity, you're not trying to bring the truth, you're just trying to hit the cash register.
Can you respond to that?
erin elizabeth
I think they fail to mention that the majority of these people are medical professionals or experts.
Anytime that they list them, they never say that.
What I just said in the New York Times that came out an hour ago, where they did quote me, was that this is a witch hunt.
So we have a political, funded, foreign organization with dark money, where that organization, nobody questions this study, which isn't validated, peer-to-peer reviewed by anyone, by no one, yet they are Hang on, I just want to make sure the study is the Center for the Countering Digital Hate?
Yes, their own handle on Twitter is CCDHate.
What kind of organization, I mean, that's pretty clear what they're about.
They put it right in their own name, hate.
That's what they're about.
They are the real hate group.
unidentified
By the way, let me just ask you about that study.
steve bannon
It's not really what I'm used to looking at.
It's kind of formal studies that has all kind of detailed information.
It has like little snapshots.
What say you about the group that did it and why is the government, particularly Surgeon General Jen Psaki, depending upon that document, and we're putting it up in the live chat, people should read this.
Everybody in this audience must read this and must share it.
You should share it and read it and make your own opinion.
But why is the government, why is the Surgeon General coming up and saying this is an urgent public health threat dependent upon this flimsy study?
erin elizabeth
It absolutely befuddles me as to why they're taking this organization and making them credible that was only founded a couple years back at most, especially when you look at the dark money funding it.
I'm just completely astounded, especially with their horrific tactics.
What they always do with any of us is find, like we could do with anybody, find a really bad shot of us in the middle of a sentence, like especially with Bobby Kennedy or Dr. Mercola or me or any of us.
And then that's where they make up their little picture of all of us in their group.
It looks like the Brady Bunch with all of us there except really horrific pictures.
They fail to mention all the credentials and all the doctors.
The majority who are doctors are board certified, double board certified surgeons.
I have no idea.
That's a great question as to why the current administration is Acting as if they are some credible source, because, yeah, they're not.
And the study, again, validated by no one, so it's shocking.
steve bannon
We're pressed for time because of some of our technical processes, but we'll have you on during the week.
But I think the question the audience has, because the New York Times today, that lead story, if we get it back up the headlines, they're focused really on Mercola, and to you to agree, and Bobby Kennedy, they're going for the top notch here.
Are you going to back off?
How is this going to change Erin Elizabeth's reporting?
erin elizabeth
No, despite it is more difficult because I had millions taken down off Facebook and Instagram, but I'm still on Twitter and the other on other what other social alternative social media forum in my own site, of course, sharing the truth.
No, I will not back down.
And more than ever now, I think that we need to this is this is unprecedented in history that we need to share the truth.
Because it's really, everything is being so censored, as you know.
So people are being brainwashed, stuck inside for so long.
Now again, people are afraid and inside watching that TV programming that isn't telling the truth on the network.
steve bannon
So yeah, I mean, it's, I'm still going to... Aaron, before we leave, do you believe what the Surgeon General and Jen Psaki essentially implied in the study says?
Do you think you're jeopardizing Americans' lives by the information you're putting out?
erin elizabeth
No, I don't.
Most everything, just like Bobby said with the lab, when he talked about whether it's about the lab, the reports on it being laboratory derived, or escape from a lab, or whatever the story is, or with the truth about Fauci, or whether we're talking about studies from the CDC and the WHO, we're posting those sites.
A lot of what I post is mainstream because it says it right in the articles.
Yeah, so I think that we're just sharing, it's the side of science they don't want us to share.
The not paid science.
So yeah, I think that we're not sharing misinformation.
steve bannon
How do people get to you?
How do people access your information?
erin elizabeth
It's a funny name.
I never expect to take it, but HealthNutNews.com.
So yeah, because social media, I could be gone in another one tomorrow.
HealthNutNews.com.
steve bannon
Erin and Elizabeth, thank you very much for joining us.
Thank you, and we look forward to having you on next week.
I want to turn now to Ty and Charlene Bollinger.
So, Charlene, let me start with you.
You guys are also in the top couple listed on this study.
What is it about this study?
What have you guys done?
The Center for Countering Digital Hate.
What have you done, Charlene, that is hate-filled, that would have some center that specialized in that single you out as one of the biggest Well, thanks for having us on Steve and giving us a voice in the middle of so many lies that we're faced with right now.
charlene bollinger
I beg to differ.
It's the truth that we're delivering to the world.
And we have, I think the biggest thing is we make films.
We've got the truth about cancer, the truth about vaccines.
And in our films, we're just bringing the studies, the CDC's website information, and what the government is saying, things that people don't know where to find.
So we put it in an easy-to-understand format, we put it out there, and we have millions of fans.
Many, many millions around the world have signed up for our free e-books.
steve bannon
But hang on, but I don't think they're questioning, I don't think they're questioning the fans.
In fact, they're saying the reason you have fans is most people are uneducated in this, it's complicated, and that you take a kernel of truth, twist it around, and you're a great propagandist.
They're not arguing, in fact, they're saying you're a very good propagandist.
So how do you counter that?
How do you counter with your education or anything like that?
The fact is not your scope.
In fact, you're on the list because you have scale and you have scope and you have millions of fans.
They're saying something quite different.
The problem is that you don't have training.
You're essentially a propagandist.
You take a kernel of truth, blow it up around a wrapping of lies, and you've been able to basically harm people by putting out this false information that's obviously false according to them.
So how do you defend that?
They're not arguing about your scale.
They're actually saying Charlene's right.
She does have millions of fans and that's the problem.
charlene bollinger
Right, so that's why we're on the list, number one.
But to your point, they still have yet to give one piece of misinformation that we're giving.
Now, we have listed many items of concern and we get those points from their website.
For example, on the CDC's VAERS database, We see that the COVID shot here in America has already taken the lives of almost 11,000 people.
We have almost a half a million that have reported adverse events.
steve bannon
But hang on, but wouldn't they say, they're not disputing the 11,000, wouldn't they say that's point zero zero zero zero zero zero, how many zeros about the 160, we can't get an accurate count, but 165 million shots have been taken?
charlene bollinger
Yes, well, Ty, why don't you jump in here?
unidentified
Well, the reality is that it's just we state facts and so whether that's whatever the percentages doesn't really matter.
We're accused of spreading disinformation by listing the VAERS database, by talking about the CDC's list that's on their own website, by talking about the ICD of the doctors use.
They don't list specific items of disinfo.
They just call us disinfo agents, but they don't list anything specific.
That's the problem.
steve bannon
So, if they came back to you, I take it you'd be open, if they came back to you, or if you ever asked to sit down with them, if they came back to you and listed out a hundred things and you agreed that that was wrong, you would take them off?
But, to date, they haven't specifically cited anything you've put in your films or anything on your site?
unidentified
Yeah, well, I did an interview just last week.
We had a local reporter who came on our property and was literally filming our house, and I was like, I'm just going to go ahead and give this guy an interview just to get him off the property, and he's a pretty nice guy.
Right.
Anyway, I said, can you name anything specifically that we've done that's disinfo?
And nobody's listed anything that's specific disinformation.
They haven't done that.
And I said specifically in that article, if we've ever shared anything that's not true, we'll take it back.
We'll retract, we'll issue a retraction.
And we've done that in the past.
We've gotten some statistics wrong or whatever, and we've issued retractions.
Of course we would do that.
But the problem is, the disinformation is not really disinformation.
It's information That we share, that Bobby shares, that Aaron shares, that all these different disinfo doesn't share, that go against the mainstream narrative of the U.S.
government about vaccines.
It's policy for them to suppress any vaccine hesitancy.
It has been for 50 years.
And that's the problem.
steve bannon
And here's another thing, Steve.
We've got to hang over.
Go ahead, Shirley.
I'm sorry.
charlene bollinger
Go ahead.
You mentioned that we're not experts, so how can we know this information?
But that reminds me of the Dark Ages with the Catholic Church.
The Catholic Church literally told people they could not read the Bible because they couldn't understand it.
Only the higher-ups in the church could understand it.
But there was an agenda that they had, and they were literally killing Christians.
So this is kind of like the Dark Ages.
I like to call this the Digital Dark Ages.
We can read the scientific data just as well as anybody on the CDC website and most people don't know where to find it.
So we bring that information on a silver platter to the people.
And the millions of people that follow us, they're not dumb.
They're smart.
They want the truth.
steve bannon
Can you guys hold over and take a short commercial break?
Dr. Malone, we knew we'd get a wrap-up with Dr. Malone.
We're gonna bring Ty and Charlene Bollinger back, and we're impressed for time.
We're gonna try to go to Freedom Fest.
I don't know if we're gonna be able to make that short commercial break.
We're in return with the Bollingers, Ty and Charlene, also Dr. Robert Malone, in the War Room as we wrap up our special, The Dirty Dozen, the 12 most dangerous people in the United States of America, next in the War Room.
unidentified
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War Room.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
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I want to bring in Dr. Malone on our special.
By the way, breaking news on Axios, which gets all the scoops, Biden officials see booster shots as increasingly likely.
Dr. Malone, you've been good enough to sit through this entire thing today with us and give commentary.
Give us, we've got a couple of minutes with you, give us what your summation is of the Of the information being a public health crisis, should we have a full and frank debate here so the vaccine hesitant can actually get real information, real data, and make an informed choice?
Dr. Malone.
dr robert malone
Obviously, we do need to have that full and open debate, and it's coded into federal law as the common rule.
It's absolutely necessary.
Steve, if you'll allow me to loop back just with one example.
unidentified
Sure.
dr robert malone
We were talking about the threat of Tony Fauci and how he exercises the levers of power over Congress.
He essentially operates a pork barrel shop.
Just like has been done historically by congressional leaders, but in his case, he's the one allocating money.
If you want to see a clear example of that, it's the Biodefense Centers of Excellence, which make no sense at all, in terms of national security, to drop high-containment laboratories into major urban centers.
But it makes perfect sense politically to do so.
And so now we have BSL-3 containment labs working with high-risk pathogens, Located in places like Boston.
From a national security standpoint, it is gobbledygook.
But from a political standpoint, it's brilliant.
So, regarding this thread that you were talking about, obviously all of this disinformation and information management We've talked about the Noble Lie, and I don't have any other way to explain it other than to go down the rabbit holes of various conspiracies.
That doesn't mean those conspiracies don't exist.
And I haven't ruled them out.
I just can't prove them, and I don't know firsthand about them.
But in terms of NIAID exercising levers of power, Tony is now trying to grab all the BARDA budget.
Which was set up as a separate organization under the Associate Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response.
And after OWS, Warp Speed, they're now trying to pull all that into the NIH too.
And as mentioned, historically, the NIH has just been horrid at building products.
The truth is, Department of Defense has been much better.
And yes, people get blacklisted.
I've been blacklisted by the NIH.
And this is part of why I like working with the DoD.
The other thing is, the DoD, they're practical people.
They have to protect warfighters day in, day out.
And they don't have time for all of these games.
It's not to say that they don't have their own goofiness, but they've been a heck of a lot better in producing products to protect people, historically, than NIAID has.
But Tony plays the politics.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Dr. Malone, how do people get access to your writing, social media, website?
How do people get access to you?
dr robert malone
So, as we mentioned before, I've got a Twitter account, I've got a LinkedIn account, and the main webpage, www.rwmallonemd.com, and I'll be speaking at the Liberty Center of Silicon Valley in a couple of weeks, and you can look up on their website, and I look forward to being in the belly of the beast and speaking directly to Silicon Valley staff.
steve bannon
Well, we will promote that speech heavily.
Dr. Malone, thank you.
I really appreciate the time you've taken with our audience today.
Greatly appreciated.
Honored.
dr robert malone
Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
Dr. Robert Malone, Real Warrior.
I want to go back to Ty and Charlene.
Sorry we ran out of time.
We'll have you back on.
I take it you two, although you're on the most wanted list by the White House, by the most powerful organization in the world, the U.S.
government.
I take it, Ty and Charlene, you're not going to back down?
charlene bollinger
You're right Steve, we're not backing down.
unidentified
No way.
steve bannon
Okay, how do people get access to you, what the Center for Digital Hate says, a bunch of propaganda films and propaganda information, how do people get access to that?
charlene bollinger
Yeah, so our main website is TheTruthAboutCancer.com.
All of our social media channels are linked in.
We've got a lot of content, articles, and information about that organization that's filled with hate and hit lists, so join us there.
And you know what, Steve?
We're going to have a live event.
We'd love you to come.
That's in October 22nd to the 24th right here in Nashville, Tennessee.
We're going to unpack the truth.
We're going to have the Disinformation Dozen here.
We'd love you to be here with us.
Bobby Kennedy, our good friend, is going to be here.
Aaron, and others.
steve bannon
Okay, so we'll get the information.
So, October 22nd, 23rd, you're going to have a live event for a couple of days to go through this, the Dirty Dozen.
Dirty Dozen Live.
Okay.
The Woodstock of misinformation, I would call it.
unidentified
22nd to 24th.
Yes, sir.
charlene bollinger
Nashville.
steve bannon
Okay, thank you guys very much.
Appreciate you guys coming on.
Look forward to having you back on.
charlene bollinger
We look forward to hearing from you.
steve bannon
We're going to have some people next week who are going to walk through what they think this information is.
Do we have Jack Posobiec?
Jack, I know you joined us from Arizona.
The President's coming out there today to throw down the full forensic audit.
You've got about a minute, brother.
Hopefully you're going to speak today, we think.
Tell us what's going on.
unidentified
Steve, what people need to understand, this is far more than just the president coming to Phoenix.
This is a symposium on election integrity.
We're going to have candidates for the State Senate, for the Senate.
steve bannon
We're going to have Dr. Ward.
We're going to have gubernatorial candidates.
unidentified
It's all right here.
What's going on Maricopa County.
Huge update for people.
We're going to get all the receipts and I'm going to bring them back next week.
So watch this event.
It's Turning Point Action is putting it together and it's all keynoted by the president later today.
steve bannon
And your Twitter feed, I take it, is going to be hot, given updated information?
unidentified
Well, my Twitter feed's always hot, Steve.
steve bannon
Give us your Twitter, your Gitter, all that.
What do you got?
Yeah, get on Twitter, get on Gitter.
unidentified
It's at JackPosobiec, P-O-S-O-B-I-E-C for all of them.
steve bannon
Posobiec, love you.
Wish we'd had more time with you this morning, but thanks for hanging in there.
Jack Posobiec, Senior Editor at Human Events, made that the must-read publication.
Didn't have time to get him live, but I want you guys to hang out.
Real America's Voice is going to have, what, two or three hours of coverage.
The great Amanda Head and the great Ben Berquam are going to be live at Freedom Fest up in Rapid City, South Dakota.
It is the annual gathering up there in the Upper Plains, the National Gathering of the Libertarian Movement.
They've got speakers, they've got interviews, they've got all of it.
It's only Real America's Voice and Amanda Head and Ben Berquam can bring it to you.
We're going to toss to them live here in a second.
I want to thank everybody who helped put this together.
We had a few technical problems today, but man, information coming in hot.
Remember, it is an urgent public health threat, this misinformation put up by these individuals, the Dirty Dozen.
We're going to drill down on this in the coming week, so stay tuned.
We'll be back live 10 a.m.
Monday morning.
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