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Episode 1,122 – Massive Revolts Against Covid RestrictionsEpisode 1,122 – Massive Revolts Against Covid Restrictions
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
donald j trump
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
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for democracy in Texas and we'll be live streaming that and they've got people from different backgrounds that has to be happening all across the country.
We need folks taking to the streets massive protests because what the Republicans are doing they are simply trying to destroy this democracy in order to support Donald Trump and his absolute lie.
And uh Reverend Barber's joining me at the top of next hour.
ali velshi
He also was recently arrested in this fight because we are now seeing the thing that has worked in America, it has worked in South Africa, it has worked in India, it is working its way in Russia.
unidentified
Civil disobedience actually does get things done.
We stand together!
steve bannon
Thank you.
Australia, Great Britain, and in France.
I apologize, we lost some of the audio here, but it's very powerful.
Ari Velshi better watch what he wished for.
They want civil disobedience on this voting rights, which they're never going to get.
They're looking for direct action.
They've been pleading for direct action.
It's not going to happen.
It's Monday, the 26th of July, the year of our Lord, 2021.
Let me bring in Raheem Kassam.
Now, you're in the War Room, 70 million downloads, of course, live everywhere.
Raheem, do we have you?
Somehow, we messed up the cold open, thanks to the great production staff here in Denver.
It's unbelievable, dude.
We only work on this all weekend, and of course it gets blown in the last second.
What we're trying to show is the Democrats calling for direct action, and direct action over the weekend.
Incredible.
And Europe always leads the United States in these things.
So, Rahim, tell us exactly what's been going on, and why is this so powerful, what's happening in Europe right now about lockdowns, about mask mandates, and about vaccines.
raheem kassam
Sure, well let me give you some of the background to all of this.
Of course, we have been hearing for the last year and a half now that it is pure conspiracy theory that mandates forced vaccinations, government-enforced vaccinations for different industries and government-enforced vaccinations to do simple things like go to restaurants and bars and hotels and stadiums, etc. etc.
We were told that was all a conspiracy theory and that the people who were suggesting may be the longer-term interests of the health technocrats and the political powers that be, we were told again that we were conspiracy theorists.
Fast forward now 18 months and you're seeing across parts of Europe, especially in France, but also in Italy, also in Greece, you're seeing their governments having vaccination mandates and deploying those vaccination dates.
They're being deployed in industry-specific sectors, such as the healthcare industry.
The French Assemblée Nationale this morning passed the law that will require people to take vaccinations if they work in the health sector.
The same thing happening in Italy.
And the public aren't having it, as you see from the pictures on your screen.
I mean, it was just last week we were discussing in studio, you know, what the solutions are to a lot of the problems we face.
And I said direct action.
And here you have direct action.
And it's not small.
unidentified
I want to talk about the scale of it.
raheem kassam
Hundreds of thousands of people across Europe.
steve bannon
Yeah, let's talk about, by the way, there's a slight technical problem for our audience and our connection with Rahim.
Rahim, I want you to talk about the scale of this.
Particularly, it's gotten rowdy in England, but France is something people ought to take a very hard look at.
France, the scale of it is mind-boggling, and I can't tell you.
Macron in the national elections, and remember Macron is just the Francis Obama, was at what 9 or 10% in national elections that just took place in a regional basis, but there were nationwide elections regionally.
unidentified
9%.
steve bannon
Front National did not run the tables because guess what?
25% of the people did not come out to vote because they said my vote doesn't count, right?
They're just gonna steal it.
But, Macron, a couple weeks later, you've had this massive, you know, outpouring, and people were actually saying that his security force was actually, you know, were having doubts about this guy.
There's all kind of rumors going around because of the massive outpouring of, really, not just working class, this is not Gilets Jaunes, this is middle class France taking to the streets.
Many of these people, I think, are his voters, and saying, you haven't put forth the evidence For other lockdowns, further lockdowns, vaccinations, etc.
Walk us through the scale of this and why this is shocked.
Not just the French establishment, but the establishment in Europe.
unidentified
Yeah.
And a little bit across Europe.
raheem kassam
Let people know we're attempting to not remark or nor report on these mass demonstrations that are happening across Europe right now.
They will say hundreds of people demonstrated this weekend.
Well, look at the images on your screen, ladies and gentlemen.
There's not hundreds of people in Trafalgar Square.
Yes, that was a flag in Trafalgar Square that you saw on your screens there.
Those are thousands upon thousands and in some of the cases in excess of 100,000 people who were taken to the streets.
One of the estimates that I saw from France said nearly a quarter of a million people were out demonstrating against these things and I suspect those numbers are only going to increase as these governments continue to suggest that there needs to be further lockdowns and enforced vaccinations.
You know, most people and I remember this about us right at the beginning of the pandemic.
And I include us in this most people were very willing out of goodwill and trust to go along with 15 days or even 30 days to slow the spread.
We didn't know what this was.
We had to grip on it.
was, hey, this will allow us some time to do it.
We have the bridging what you call the bridging situation financially at the time.
And then at the end of that, we were supposed to go back to normal, or at least some semblance of normal.
And now it's getting more and more bizarre.
And it's getting more and more bizarre across Europe, not least because of these steps that have been taken that the government's six to six to eight months ago, they were saying, don't be silly, never force you to do anything like that.
And anybody who suggests that that's the case is only trying to rile you up and is a conspirators. Well, streets of Europe today and by the way, big shout out to my Aussie friends as well. This is not just happening in Europe. It's also happening in Australia. There was some horrific scenes this weekend of both brutality from the police and brutality towards the police at some of these demonstrations in massive demonstrations where the police unfortunately, are attempting to not just let people protest and have their and have their say,
but are going in are riling people up our intention. You see the scenes from Sydney on your screen right now are intentionally trying to cause havoc in the streets and and have what they got in But most people are out there to say simply this, peacefully, although loudly, we do not want The government does what we need to do and we certainly don't want the government telling us that we need to shut down our businesses and lock our families away again.
steve bannon
Let's see if we can't get, I want either Rahim to call in or to reboot because we're losing too much of this stuff and this stuff is great.
I want to go back and make sure we reset.
At the beginning of this, we're in a pandemic, at the beginning of this, and particularly in the first couple of months when President Trump came out with the, you know, the 30 days to crush it, this was about capacity utilization and capacity at ICU units in hospitals, right?
We've gone up a learning curve.
I think one of the reasons you're seeing people resistant to this, and I go this from vaccine hesitancy, to mask, to lockdowns, is that we've learned a lot about the CCP virus in a year and a half.
That learning is not being put forward.
You have targeted interventions.
You have people who have comorbidities.
You know much more about who not only gets this, but who gets it and it affects the most.
And yet, you're still getting bludgeoned by overwhelming government force.
And let's talk about it now.
Now you've got many Republicans.
They're coming forward, and I don't see the evidence.
You know, Chris Christie talked over the weekend on one of the shows, he talked a buddy into it.
I'd like to have Chris Christie lay out exactly what he told his buddy about the vaccines.
I'd like to see the evidence, the data, put forward on the vaccines.
Because all you're seeing now is people get the vaccines, have it, and now they get some new excuse.
Oh yeah, well, you know, you can take the vaccine, but you can still get it, but it's not going to be as bad.
You've got all this.
Do we have Raheem back up?
So Rahim, we've gone up a learning curve, right?
You've got a learning curve in this thing.
We have more knowledge today than we had a year and a half ago, yet that knowledge is not being applied in Europe, where they're really being the most blunt.
And this tells you, this is why you and I spent most of 2018 and a lot of 2019 traveling around Europe talking about these European elections.
This shows you the crushing overwhelming force of this state.
And this is why you had a populist nationalist revolt in Europe.
And now you're seeing it.
I've got to tell you, France is a bellwether for this.
The UK is too.
But France is going to be a bellwether for this, just like for Brexit.
When you have the inferno and the firestorm that's going to start in a couple of weeks in the United States about children's vaccinations in school, you're going to see a firestorm And Ari Velshi and these guys want direct action and want civil disobedience, like in India, like in South Africa.
That's where they're comparing Gandhi in South Africa, apartheid.
Nelson Mandela to the United States of America, that's what he's saying.
They want that direct action and civil disobedience.
We'll see how many show up, right, for that.
But I've got to tell you, you're going to see Big time.
Naomi Wolf and these are calling for big-time civil disobedience when it comes to the vaccination of schoolchildren, the forced vaccination of schoolchildren, or the othering of schoolchildren, which Tony Fauci has warned he's going to do for months and months and months and months and months.
Raheem Kassam.
raheem kassam
A meme this morning that I thought was quite funny.
It says, ten years from now, you'll put on a jacket and find a mask in the pocket and think, oh man, what a weird year that was.
Then, you'll pick up your machete, continue across the wasteland, keeping to the shadows to avoid the roving gangs of cannibal raiders.
That if we don't do something about all of this right now, if those quarter of a million people don't turn into a million people on the streets of Paris, then I'm afraid civil society is headed towards collapse as a direct result of the overzealousness of the technocratic elite.
That is just the way civilizations always collapse.
And I'm so proud when I see my fellow countrymen outside 10 Downing Street.
I'm enthused when we see such large numbers across Athens and Sydney and and beyond and i also must say this i saw that there were demonstrations going on this very weekend in i think all you work and michigan as well uh... we talked about it last week on the show this is going to be test size and something i i hope massively peaceful uh... but stress being on massive but i i don't want to lose the point though after
steve bannon
It was after this massive protest, for two days in Paris, what did the assembly in France, they voted to go ahead and enforce it, correct?
raheem kassam
Sure, they passed it anyway.
But I don't think that will stop people now.
I think change will come.
impetus. And people who were on the on the brink of going out there that day, further reason to take part in these things.
We've seen it for the last eight months. We've seen it for four months from the gilets jaunes and all the pro scene across the Western you know, they were they we were stunned when they were 10,000 people. Now you're talking up to a quarter of a million. I think I think change will come you obviously have a massive election in France coming up. But I think change will come necessarily as those numbers continue to swell.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Yeah, remember, next spring, this French elections then in October, September is a Bolsonaro in Brazil, and then the They're all going to be interconnected with the issues that are in front of us.
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to get Rahim up on the phone because clearly this Skype is not working or not working as well.
Let's get Rahim up on the phone.
We've got to talk.
On Saturday evening, I thought, gave his most, the speech that had the most gravitas in it.
He really laid out, I think, a very compelling case, how you have to get to the bottom of 3 November.
He really had the back of the 3 November movement.
We're going to have Mike Lindell and Dave Clements.
Dave Clements is kind of one of the people helping to organize this 3 November Movement over on Telegram at America First, I guess it's audits at America First Audit Chat and Audit Channel.
The great Dave Clements from New Mexico is going to be joining us.
We're going to come back.
We're going to talk about what happened in Phoenix on Saturday.
Raheem Kassam will join me by telephone when we return in The War Room.
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Just to finish, we want to demand a full forensic audit of the results of Maricopa County.
I particularly want to thank Arizona Senate President Karen Phan.
She's been brave.
She's been strong.
And I predict when the votes come in, and that's her and the Senate, I think they're going to be so horrible that she's going to go three steps further than she ever thought she'd have to.
Because they will be, in my opinion, and again, I'm not involved.
They're involved.
This is the Arizona State Senate.
I think the results will be so outrageous, you've already seen some of them come, that they're going to go many steps further than they would have.
Judiciary Committee Chairman Warren Peterson.
Where's Warren?
Thank you, Warren.
Thank you, Warren.
He's here someplace.
Thank you, Warren.
unidentified
And we won in a landslide.
steve bannon
Welcome back to War Room Pandemic.
I have Raheem Kassam.
Raheem, you saw the speech.
We had a little technical problem in the first segment.
Raheem, I want to make sure there's nothing that we didn't get about the civil disobedience.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean look, I just want to restate the fact that let's look at what's taking place here.
Without cross-coordination across nations, you have up to a quarter of a million people out on the streets of Paris.
You have thousands upon thousands of people out on the streets of London.
You have Athens, you have Sydney, you have smaller demonstrations all across Europe.
And why?
Because the claims that were being made originally, that there would be no forced vaccinations, that there would be no further lockdowns, those claims are now being rode back upon by national governments who made those pledges to the public in some cases less than six months ago.
In the last three months, we've heard those statements, especially from the British government.
Now you're seeing people standing up to it.
But nonetheless, as you correctly stated, Steve, these governments are still continuing on with passing laws that require people to be vaccinated in certain public places.
First, it starts with the healthcare industry, then they're going to be moving on to others.
And you know, let's not even start to think About what's going to happen when they start to apply these laws to schools and school children.
Because that is where the real combustibility of this thing lies.
In the ordinary working class mothers and fathers who simply will not allow their children to take an experimental gene therapy before having to return to their schools.
steve bannon
You know, Politico, one of the couple of stories coming up today, Politico's got this huge story about how the Democrats are now freaking out because the mothers of America, particularly people, as we've said on the show many, many times, people who are not Trump supporters, are all over them on this CRT in the schools and have caught them in a lie and are not prepared to support any critical race theory in the schools whatsoever.
That's going to pale in comparison, as you so rightly call it, the combustibility of this situation with the mothers and the forced vaccinations or what they're going to try to do Is is mass mandates for kids that don't have vaccines and have to sit over in the corner away from their classmates to kind of other them to shame them and do psychological damage that quite frankly will they'll never be able to unwind.
They'll always remember that.
Quite psychologically very powerful.
I think this is why you're seeing this fervor on the streets of Europe and I gotta tell you once again continue to watch France because the French Are pretty slow to anger, but man, when they get angry, they're letting it know.
And many, many of those people are Macron supporters.
That's why Macron was at 9% for these, 9-10% nationally with his party.
Because of people don't like the way that he's handled.
This is why Gavin Newsom's being recalled.
It's so obvious out there that government overreach where it's not backed up With hard evidence where people put forth the data, the evidence, and the science of why these things have to be done, but just use this blunt force object, which is state power.
Rahim, we had this special of the weekend.
I've never had a response, and we've done some pretty powerful specials, but I've got to tell you, Dr. Malone, Aaron, Aaron Elizabeth Mercola and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
We're going to cut up and play some of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.' 's interview with us in the days ahead because it was very powerful about Tony Fauci.
National Pulse has been the number one tip of the spear in cornering Fauci.
What do you think of Fauci's response over the weekend?
He is now on every show.
Trying to bob and weave and try to put trial balloons up there on gain of function.
At the same time, he's arguing for more mask mandates, which he's never proven anything about the masks.
There's no scientific evidence about the masks at all, at least I haven't seen.
So, give us your thoughts about Fauci and Fauci's latest perturbations.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not a virologist, but I go through these things as far as a, you know, a relatively, hopefully relatively intelligent mind can do.
And, you know, mask efficacy is something that isn't really discussed anymore.
I believe that they don't want to discuss it because the fact of the matter is that if you actually look into the data of mask efficacy, and I don't mean, you know, real proper You know, fancy fangled masks with all of the doohickeys on them that do that.
Of course, those things work.
That's not what the public is being asked to do.
The public is being asked to find a bit of cloth in your house, wrap it around your face with a rubber band, and you'll make everybody feel, you know, more safe as a result.
And that just doesn't work.
Those things, that's theatre.
And people are tired of it.
I mean, I'm in New York City right now, which is nowhere near to being kind of a, you know, right-wing hub.
But I'm going around watching people refusing, actively refusing to be part of this theatre when they are asked to, you know, walk into a bar or something like that and put a mask on.
People are just shaking their head and saying, no, we're not going to do that.
They're saying, Steve, I don't even have one.
I don't even own one.
I don't even carry one.
And a lot of the same read you can get into some of the vaccination stuff now as well.
I was looking at data from Iceland, which is one of the most well vaccinated, fully vaccinated nations in the world.
And of course, 82% of their new COVID cases are occurring in fully vaccinated people.
So the question has to be asked, And the question will remain of people like Fauci and the rest, and of course all of Fauci's stuff about gain of function, the Wuhan lab and all of that.
If you listen to what he's actually saying, and he goes and he talks to Rand Paul, he says, we never did any of that stuff, that was nothing to do with us.
Then he comes back and he says, well, it was only responsible to do that because we were looking for the source of SARS-CoV-1.
He's contradicting himself in real time.
steve bannon
Just so the audience understands, Fauci won Jake Tapper yesterday, and now he's trying to put up another trial balloon.
Oh, well, it would have been ridiculous and unethical for us not to do it because of SARS-1.
Some ridiculous, you know, instead of going after SARS-1, they're powering up and making a bioweapon, which is what gain-of-function is.
I just want to put it in perspective, though, so the audience understands this.
If you were a conspiracy theory wingnut, if you believe what we talked about back in January, February, March of 2020, right, when Fauci was in full denial that this thing came from the Wuhan lab.
Now the lab leak analysis and the gain of function is conventional wisdom.
Why?
Because of the facts.
Also remember in the audience, you were considered a conspiracy theorist 90 days ago, four months ago, if you kept saying, I think these guys are misleading.
You're going to need another booster shot.
You're going to need booster shots, like, every 90 days to four months.
Now, is it Pfizer's coming out and saying, hey, we need a booster?
You're going to have to have a booster.
Right now, Fauci's trying to deny it, but the guy's actually making the experimental gene therapies, and the vaccines are saying you're going to need booster shots.
Hey, a couple months ago, you were a conspiracy theory wingnut, if you believe that.
Right?
And now you're seeing Fauci on the thing with gain of function.
Everything they say is misrepresentation.
They're all in it for what they call the noble lie that they know better, whether it's Macron in France, Fauci in the United States, that they know better and they're going to withhold real evidence because they don't think the unwashed masses can make their own decisions.
Rahim Ghassan.
unidentified
Well I think that's right and I was sort of going to lead up to that and the question that comes from that.
Naturally people will want an answer to the question of, hey, if this stuff doesn't work, if we need booster shots, Um, and 82% of cases are occurring.
New cases are occurring in fully vaccinated people in some, in some places.
Um, then why do we have these vaccine mandates?
Like, what is the impetus?
Because there doesn't appear to be a scientific impetus.
Um, and that is where people will start to get very, you know, as they start to, that is where people are extremely, extremely concerned.
And concern is a light word for it.
You know, I think what we're seeing right now, the moments we're living through right now, and I'm talking about these last sort of six weeks and the six weeks in front of us, are a transition from concern and worry to anger and, you know, rage, really.
And that's not what anybody wants for civil society, but it is happening.
And you're seeing it in the confrontations with the police on the streets of Sydney and the streets of Athens and in Paris and in London and beyond.
And you're seeing it here in the United States too.
And I suspect that what we're going to start seeing from the Fauci's of the world now are repudiation of uh... protest gatherings and all of our stop and put those delta and whatever will come off rivers an excuse but felt he's real concern in all of this is what i think getting caught i think he's been caught uh... but i think that you know the catching process take some some further you know he has to be a committee to stand
i think tropical food but what he's done here if you think about it real quick just to summarize all of what happened over the last couple weeks without it he was saying that we didn't do that and now he's saying we did it because it would have been irresponsible to not do it So...
steve bannon
It's the same thing he said with the mask.
He's caught in the line of the mask.
He says, well, I did it because people wouldn't have worn the mask.
The same thing about herd immunity.
This is the third time.
Dr. Malone said this is how the Jesuits Having gone to Georgetown.
This is what the Jesuits, this is how the Jesuits think.
They have this thing called reserve.
It's the reservation.
It's the noble lie.
Rahim, hang on for a second.
We're going to turn in a moment.
Rahim Ghassan, we've got Steve Moore.
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unidentified
Yes.
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We told you seven weeks ago the most important thing that was going to happen.
They're trying to do three-card money with all this other stuff.
The most important thing is they need you, the American people, to consent to a debt ceiling increase or they can't spend any more money.
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I want to go to Rahim Ghassan.
Quickly, Rahim.
Saturday, President Trump threw down hard.
We had the cold open in the last segment, saying, hey, not only did I win, I won in a landslide.
Give us your thoughts on what you saw in Phoenix at the Turning Point USA, I guess, conference there, where he came in as the keynote speaker at the end.
Give us your impressions.
unidentified
Yeah, look, I mean, it was vintage Trump, but more importantly than that, it was vintage America.
That rally, that crowd, the moments throughout that speech from the extraordinary ovation for Carrie Lake there, who got such a big reaction.
But even Trump, when you looked at his face, he was like, whoa, this is extraordinary.
And then, of course, you had that lady who kind of got booed off the stage and has been complaining about it ever since, saying, you know, I've always been with you on ballot integrity and all of that.
I never heard of it.
Frankly.
steve bannon
Oh yeah, hold on.
She's a state senator that killed the forensic audit, killed the audits going forward, so she doesn't support the audit.
She had, by the way, she had Jordan Conradtson from the great Gateway Pundit, she had him arrested later for harassing her.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
He walked outside and asked her a question.
He says, hey, were you shocked you just got booed off the stage?
She got booed off the stage.
America and American politicians ought to understand one thing.
You're going to come up there and try to spin and talk about the founders and we the people and all this nonsense?
Hey, people don't want to hear it.
They want to see action, action, action.
They were holding her accountable right there, booed her off the stage.
Then she got nasty and poor Jordan Conradson from the Great Gateway Pundit, I think they handcuffed him and put him in the back of a police car because he asked her a few questions about how he had to feel to get booed off the stage.
So, Rahim, yes, I agree that Carrie Lake, the hat tip to Carrie Lake, she clearly had supporters, and you could tell from Trump's face, that was a wake-up call for him, because I don't think he was prepared to have the ovations she got.
But he threw down hard.
The key thing is he backed, in your mind, he backed the full forensic audit.
I think there's a lot of people... And even further meltdown, because they don't, for a guy that got 81 million votes, Right, and Biden, they certainly don't want to talk about showing any evidence of where he got the votes.
Rahim Ghassan?
unidentified
Yeah, look, I'll say this.
I know that there is some frustration out there as well about certain things.
The people who are in prison, for instance, in Washington, D.C., awaiting trial, and people are sort of asking, you know, what's happening?
Where are we going?
But let's think about this.
Trump is clearly revving the engines, and he's begun to rev them harder and harder now.
He has to do it in a strategic way.
He has to do it in a planned way, and in a way, in a cautious way, in all of this.
Because let's not forget the amount of targeting that is happening to him and his family at the very same time, too.
But I think this one was the first time I watched this rally and I went, wow, the engines are really, really revving here.
Yeah, as we all like to say, the best is yet to come.
steve bannon
Raheem, how do people track you during the day?
National Pulse is on fire.
Everybody's got to go there.
Do you have a podcast coming up today?
Are you going back to work after your vacation?
unidentified
Not a vacation.
We're working very hard.
A lot of work now relates to implementation on the site of Getter and making sure that Getter is integrated fully with the National Pulse so that people can join that community and be a part of it.
We have some extraordinary stories, one we published late last night about BLM in Cuba, never been seen before information, and we've got much more coming up today.
Stick around, stay tuned to nationalpulse.com.
steve bannon
By the way, hat tip, you guys go at Fowchee Corner.
That's because of National Pulse.
Thank you very much, Raheem, for joining us today.
Get back to work.
I know I'm teasing you.
I know you're on the road working all the time.
Raheem's going to be reporting from us throughout the country in the lead-up to Sioux Falls, South Dakota, the Cyber Symposium.
I want to bring in Steve Moore now.
If we could put up the story from The Hill and the cover.
On The Hill, as you got up this morning, 6 a.m., The Hill, one of the most inside baseball publications around.
Lead story.
The Republicans are looking at the leverage they've got from the debt ceiling.
That is because of this audience.
They weren't talking about the debt ceiling seven weeks ago.
Didn't want to talk about it.
Total crickets from the business press.
They just wanted to slide something into a bill, increase the debt ceiling, and allow Biden and the uniparty apparatus here to spend us into oblivion because we brought it up and then we had guests like Steve Cortez, Jason Trennant, and particularly the great Steve Moore, who's a financial and economic advisor to the President.
Over with Adam Braden, one of the advisors over at FreedomWorks.
Steve Moore came on here and lit it up.
Steve, give us your current assessment.
Now that it's out in public, it's a lead story on the Hill.
Everybody knows the next couple of days here before they break for August recess is very important.
Give us your assessment of where we stand on increasing the debt ceiling, sir.
stephen moore
Well, Steve, I think you and I moved the needle on this one when we talked, what, about three weeks ago, and we're first ones to really raise the alarm.
About this massive increase in debt that is supposed to be approved sometime in September.
Janet Yellen is pulling the fire alarm saying this has to be done or it's going to be Armageddon for the country.
And my feeling, I think it's shared by you as well, is that Republicans have to be a thousand yards away from this.
Not a single Republican should be voting for the Democratic Debt extension bill.
They broke it, Steve.
It's the old expression.
You break it, you fix it.
The Democrats have spent money in the most absurd and reckless way over the last six months, and they have more spending to do.
They have a $4 trillion debt bill they want to pass on top of that.
And then they want the Republicans to vote with them because it's the responsible thing to do to raise the debt ceiling.
And I think that's outrageous.
It is the one point of leverage Republicans have right now, and they should say not just no, but hell no, to any debt ceiling extension until we get... By the way, every one of those spending reforms that even some of those Republicans were talking about are feeble.
Feeble.
unidentified
I wouldn't vote on this under any circumstance.
steve bannon
This is the buried lead.
What they're talking about, this is the Uniparty, this is a controlled opposition.
These spending reforms are all nonsense.
They won't end up reducing spending at all.
That's why it's all a sham.
Here's the thing.
It's not the Republicans.
It's the people.
It's this audience.
You have ultimate power.
They have to get approval to raise the debt ceiling.
They know they're jammed and they're going to be vilifying and demonizing all the rubes.
They want to destroy the full faith and credit.
The full faith and credit of the United States is on your shoulders.
That's the deplorables.
You pay the taxes, you create the value, you create the wealth.
That's what this country is based upon, upon working class and middle class people.
And now they're trying to do a sham, and this is the sham.
The sham is the Republicans are going to ask, oh, we're going to get some spending reform.
Steve, right now...
Another sham you've got is this bipartisan giveaway on this infrastructure bill that really is contingent upon, because Nancy Pelosi says it's contingent upon, what she just talked about, the $4 trillion human infrastructure, which is just funding every crazy social program they've ever wanted.
Steve Moore had it.
The only way to stop this is once again you have to take the hardest line possible, and the hard line is nope.
We're not going to have any votes, and Janet Yellen knows.
She actually said you need to do this by regular order.
She understands you can't jam this into a reconciliation.
A reconciliation is just a budget gimmick.
It's a gimmick.
They're going to try to use that gimmick to get the federalization of the elections.
They're going to try to use the gimmick.
It's a gimmick.
It's a total gimmick.
And now what they're going to try to do is use that gimmick, Steve, and you nailed it.
All the spending reforms are just nonsense.
They're not going to mean anything.
Steve Moore.
stephen moore
Okay, a couple points.
First of all, on this full faith and credit issue, that's what the liberals are going to throw in Republicans' face.
Oh my gosh, you're going to jeopardize the full faith and credit of our bonds.
unidentified
Who's putting in jeopardy the full faith and credit of our bonds?
stephen moore
It's not voting for the debt ceiling.
It's the people who are voting for the massive $4 trillion, $5 trillion, $6 trillion of spending.
That's what's putting the full faith and credit at risk here.
So I find it so hypocritical that they're saying, oh, it's the Republicans who are the ones who are putting our full faith and credit and putting our bond rating at risk.
No.
When you massively borrow, like the United States government is doing under the Democrats, that puts our It's currency, our financial well-being, everything that we stand for in Great Shepard.
steve bannon
Hold it, but hang on a second.
We've got to talk about the scam.
This is not boring because nobody will lend you money.
There's only so many bonds you can sell to the Chinese Communist Party and to the insurance companies in Japan and the Gulf Emirates, right?
They only want to raise taxes on a small part of the population, but that's not going to pay for anything.
All they're going to do is print money.
This is monetizing the debt.
They can't sell the debt.
You can't do it on a capital market and actually sell a bond.
You'd have to have 10% interest rates.
What they're going to do is just get the printer going and monetize the debt.
This is the scam.
They don't have a plan, Steve Moore.
stephen moore
Viewers and listeners understand this.
So, there was this dingbat theory that the left came up with a few years ago.
I'm sure you've heard of it, Steve, but a lot of people who don't follow this all that closely probably haven't heard of it.
It's called Modern Monetary Theory.
And this is this crazy idea that somehow the United States government continue to borrow and borrow and borrow and spend and spend and spend and spend and print money, and as long as the foreigners are willing to buy our bonds, we have nothing to worry about.
And that obviously, I mean, anybody with even an Economics 100 high school class knows that that's crazy.
But that is what is being implemented right now.
I find it to be extraordinarily dangerous.
I think that our financial future is going over a cliff if we allow this to happen.
And so it's one of the reasons that the, look, that Hill article had something very right.
The one point of leverage that we all have as Americans right now against this charade that's going on in Washington, these schemes to bankrupt our country, is to stop the debt ceiling extension and use that as leverage.
And by the way, do you believe, Steve, in these ideas?
Oh, you know, we're going to spend $4 trillion now, but then later we're going to cut spending.
No, why don't they cut spending right now?
The crisis is over.
Cut spending now!
steve bannon
Okay, Steve, we want to have you stay over through the break.
This audience knows about modern monetary theory because we've talked about it.
This audience is always ahead of the curve by at least six months to maybe a year on the important things.
Now you're saying, here's the problem, Steve Moore, and I'm going to ask you when you get back.
Think about it over the break.
Wall Street and heretofore conservative Republican financiers have accepted, implied, they've accepted modern monetary theory.
Which you can just spend and spend and spend and deficits don't mean anything until the specter of inflation.
And that's why it's all this spinning right now.
It's not even transition or inflation.
The whole house of cards is coming down around their head and they've now got to go back to the deplorables and say, please, please, please, can you just raise the debt ceiling?
Give us a little more headroom here on the debt.
Steve Moore is going to join us back talking about economics, capital markets in your future and your children's future in a moment.
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You are the only people that stand between us and financial Armageddon.
Okay?
This is what populism is.
I know you're in the breach on the vaccines, you're in the breach on the lockdowns, you're in the breach of CRT.
There's so many things you're fighting for.
Of everything we're fighting for, this is at the forefront.
Because if they're able to jam this through, we will never recover from this.
And that's why they're trying to jam it through.
And here's the thing, they think, oh you guys are so dumb, you're working class people, you're deplorables, or you're part of the ape army, or whatever.
When Steve Moore mentions modern monetary theory, we were talking about this a year ago.
It's a radical idea.
So Steve Moore, talk real briefly, tell about modern monetary theory, how Wall Street's embraced it.
Under the radar scope, they've embraced it.
And now we're in a situation of, we can't sell our debt, so you've got to monetize the debt, like a third world country, Steve Moore.
stephen moore
It is.
It's the Argentina, Bolivia, Venezuela, Zimbabwe model of economic growth that's going on in this country right now.
And so you look at what's happening.
One of the things that you and I were talking about during the break is why in the world would anybody be buying these government bonds?
unidentified
Think about that.
stephen moore
an interest rate of, you know, one and a half percent.
And then you look at who's buying the bonds, Steve, and you know the answer to this.
Who's buying the bonds? Not investors.
The bonds are being bought up by the Federal Reserve Board.
So think about that.
We've got Congress appropriating trillions of dollars we don't have.
The Treasury is now issuing these bonds to finance the spending that we can't pay for and can't afford. And then the Federal Reserve Bank is purchasing the bonds.
Now, the last part of this equation, Steve, is how does the Federal Reserve Board Get the money to buy the box.
And everyone, I think, knows the answer to that.
The Federal Reserve prints money.
And so this is this is essentially monetizing our debt.
And then Joe Biden goes out there in one of the most, I mean, my jaw is still hung open when he said this.
He said, oh, yes, we're very concerned about inflation and therefore we have to pass our four trillion dollar debt bill.
Remember when he said that, Steve, last week?
steve bannon
Well, they think they think they think people remember what he said.
We say monetize the debt in full faith and credit.
That is you.
This is the deplorables.
The citizens of the United States, when the Fed's buying those bonds, that means that you're buying the bonds.
They're doing it in your name.
They're like your broker-dealer.
This is a scam of epic proportions.
And we're going to get to the bottom of it.
Here's where we got the power.
Ladies and gentlemen, you in the audience, you think you got power at your school board?
You think you've got power to go into a committee and become a commitment, which you do empower?
We're empowering you.
You've got all the power in the world to crush Wall Street, to crush the Uniparty, to crush these radical Democrat Communists that are trying to bury us under these schemes and scams.
You've just got to say, nope, we're not going to increase it by one penny.
And Republicans, we're going to get the Hill article The Uniparty, the captured Republican Party, these spending things, Steve Moore, are a joke.
Let's authorize the $6 trillion now, but then we're going to come in and we're going to have spending.
It's all a lie.
It's all a scam, Steve Moore.
stephen moore
It is a lie.
You're exactly right.
We can stop.
I agree with you, Steve.
I think we can stop this.
We need people to take to the streets, peacefully, of course.
But this idea that we're letting our politicians You know, borrow and borrow and borrow and spend at levels that were once unthinkable.
And if anyone who believes that this story is going to have a happy ending for our country, you know, look, learn the lessons from history.
Learn about Rome and Greece.
steve bannon
No, Steve, Steve, Steve, this time, this time it's, this time it's completely different, right?
We all be, by the way, this gets back to why we need, you talk about the obligations of being a prime reserve currency.
You've got to be on all these wars.
Darren Beattie said, why are you all over the map for the Prime Reserve Currency?
Ladies and gentlemen, if the dollar is not the Prime Reserve Currency right now, we are Argentina.
Right?
Because then you can't sell any bonds.
Steve Moore, give us a couple minute summary of what people should do.
What action do Freedom Works, what action, you're an advisor to the President, what action do you want people to take?
stephen moore
Okay, the most important thing right now, Steve, is what you've been talking about for the last month or so.
We cannot allow any of these so-called moderate Republicans like Mitt Romney to make deals with the Democrats, either on the debt ceiling or... And I'm going to correct you on one thing, Steve, that you said, okay?
Stop calling this an infrastructure bill.
It has nothing to do with roads and bridges.
It's all green energy crap.
It's all this increase in social welfare spending.
It's increasing money for mass transit, electric cars, Tesla subsidies.
That's not infrastructure.
That's not fixing potholes.
I mean, they are spending money to advance a left-wing agenda that has nothing to do with roads and highways and airports.
And so I don't use that word infrastructure playing into their hands.
It is left-wing social welfare spending to all their pals.
It's the climate change industrial complex we're giving four trillion dollars to.
We can't allow that to happen.
steve bannon
Steve, how do people track you during the day?
How do they get to your writings, your analysis, and particularly what you're doing at FreedomWorks?
stephen moore
Thanks for asking, Steve.
So if you want to get our what we call the Prosperity Hotline that covers all these issues you and I have been talking about, go to the Committee to Unleash Prosperity website.
That's Committee to Unleash Prosperity.
That's run by Art Laffer and Steve Forbes and myself and others.
And you can get this hotline for free.
It costs you nothing.
And we'll deliver it to you five mornings a week.
Just give us your email and we will start sending it out to you probably in the next couple days.
steve bannon
By the way, everybody's got to get it.
You've got to read it.
And here's the reason.
Laffer, Forbes, and Moore are good men.
Every day I work to make them more economic nationalists.
Eventually we're going to get there.
And that's when I know we're going to win.
When I get Forbes, Laffer, and Moore completely pulling in the route of economic nationalism.
Steve, you're fantastic.
We've got a big fight ahead of us.
Steve Moore and FreedomWorks.
Adam Brand and the team are going to be at the forefront.
Not a penny.
We're not going to allow a penny Increase in the debt ceiling.
They're gonna have to live within their means.
Steve Moore, thank you very much for joining us here in the War Room.
unidentified
Thanks, Steve.
stephen moore
Take care.
steve bannon
Look forward to being in the trenches with you.
Okay, this is a big one, and we're gonna be hammering it.
And you've already changed.
Remember, this audience, they were gonna put this under, they were gonna tuck this in somewhere.
They can't do it because of you.
We brought this to the front and now it's going to be a, this is going to be a firestorm, right?
Because they're going to call you everything in the book until they get their way.
Okay, short commercial break.
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