July 24, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | |
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | |
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Surgeon General advisories are reserved for urgent public health threats. | ||
| And while those threats have often been related to what we eat, drink, and smoke, today we live in a world where misinformation poses an imminent and insidious threat to our nation's health. | ||
| Health misinformation is false, inaccurate, or misleading information about health, according to the best evidence at the time. | ||
| And while it often appears innocuous on social media apps, on retail sites, or search engines, the truth is that misinformation takes away our freedom to make informed decisions about our health and the health of our loved ones. | ||
| During the COVID-19 pandemic, health misinformation has led people to resist wearing masks in high-risk settings, It's led them to turn down proven treatments and to choose not to get vaccinated. | ||
| This has led to avoidable illnesses and death. | ||
| So a couple of the steps that we have, um, you know, that could be constructive for the public health, uh, of the country are, uh, providing, uh, for, for Facebook or other platforms to measure and publicly share the impact of misinformation on their platform, uh, and the audience it's reaching, uh, also with the public. | ||
| With all of you. | ||
| To create robust enforcement strategies that bridge their properties and provide transparency about rules. | ||
| You shouldn't be banned from one platform and not others for providing misinformation out there. | ||
| Taking faster action against harmful posts. | ||
| Okay, welcome. | ||
| It is Saturday, the 24th of July, the year of our Lord 2021. | ||
| We've got a special today. | ||
| We're also going to have lots of breaking news from Arizona. | ||
| The President's going out today to do, President Trump's going out to give a speech out in Arizona about the full forensic audit. | ||
| Jack Posobiec will be out there. | ||
| We'll have Jack later. | ||
| I believe Jack's actually maybe speaking, early speaker at this event, Turning Point USA. | ||
| Also, we're going to have Mike Lindell later in the show. | ||
| Mike Lindell is giving a big speech up in New Hampshire today. | ||
| And of course, we're going to have live coverage. | ||
| We're going to go to Amanda Head and hopefully Ben Berkwan, maybe, later in the show from Freedom Fest in Rapid City, South Dakota, where the Libertarians are meeting today. | ||
| But I want to get into, we've got a A packed show between news we're going to be breaking today and also about this disinformation war. | ||
| It's the Dirty Dozen, the 12 most dangerous people in America. | ||
| This was a report that was put out by the Center for Countering Digital Hate. | ||
| It's been referenced by the Surgeon General who said, we have an urgent public health threat and that threat's not related to cancer or smoking or Even the CCP virus, it's related to information that now what they deem as misinformation is a public health threat. | ||
| So we want to start off, we're going to go with, and we've got some people here have been referred to as anti-vax, but we're going to start off the show with a couple of people who are certainly not anti-vax. | ||
| Dr. Naomi Wolf and we have Dr. Robert Malone is going to follow. | ||
| But I want to go to Dr. Wolf first. | ||
| So Dr. Wolf, help us, you've been the one that He's come on the show months ago and warned about everything you've talked about. | ||
| You know, and I rate people by how they forecast things, deconstruct reality and kind of say, hey, this is where we're heading. | ||
| Every time you've come on the show, it's been dead spot on. | ||
| And eventually we get to that place, particularly about these vaccine passports, the digital vaccine passports and what you have been saying. | ||
| And you've been warning about the schools. | ||
| You can see that's all coming. | ||
| But I gotta ask your assessment, when the Surgeon General of the United States stands up there at the White House, then followed by the President's Communications Director, and talks about misinformation, the urgent public health crisis, you're not an anti-vaxxer. | ||
| What are they actually talking about? | ||
| Because I think they're trying to round up more than just the 12 people they identify. | ||
| What are your thoughts on this? | ||
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I mean, every time I talk to you, recently, I say, this is the The worst threat to American freedom in my lifetime. | |
| And then it gets worse. | ||
| This is really an historic event. | ||
| And it was foreseeable, but the brazenness and impunity and scary deadliness with which the White House is pursuing the criminalization of speech And of information and communication is absolutely petrifying. | ||
| What the Surgeon General did, and it's kind of, you know, clever in a demonic way, their approach, you know, people have been trying to criminalize their opponent's speech forever and ever. | ||
| And we have the First Amendment. | ||
| So it's hard to do, thank God. | ||
| That's what has kept us free. | ||
| But what he did cleverly in an evil way, like demonic intelligence, I don't mean just personally him, I mean the whole approach, is to say, okay, the thing that is threatening to your health is open communication. The thing that is, you know, it's our job as the state to monitor what reaches your ears because your body and its well-being are our possession | ||
| and responsibility, not your decision and your choice. | ||
| And you're absolutely right, and this is why you and I kind of understand each other very quickly. | ||
| These trial balloons are not about The dirty dozen. | ||
| Politics always works at this level as the camel's nose under the tent, right? | ||
| If we can get away with this, it sets a precedent. | ||
| And then how do you define, and then look a little bit down the road, how do you define health? | ||
| Well, if the state wants to say you shouldn't have more than one child, then they will censor in silence everyone on social media who says, wait a minute, I don't think it's right for the state to say you have to have only one child. | ||
| Or if they say, you know what, you don't need that uterus. | ||
| Or, you know, you need to, you know, have a geotracking device for the health of everybody. | ||
| They can define health any way they want now. | ||
| And then any dissent is defined as a threat to everybody. | ||
| And once it's a threat to everybody, right, like terrorism, Right? | ||
| Or like, the plague. | ||
| Then, and Jen Psaki is super clear about this, and the face that she assumes when she talks about it is petrifying to me, as someone who studies tyranny. | ||
| You know, she is clear that there's going to be more and more enforcement of people who communicate freely in a way that's critical of whatever the state calls health. | ||
| So that's leaving aside all the legitimate or not legitimate concerns about this vaccine or masks or that approach. | ||
| This is setting a precedent where your health belongs to the state, your body belongs to the state, and they can circle your consciousness at any time with their sensors and then, you know, enforce in very scary ways that they're already demonstrating. | ||
| I'm living through this myself, punishments, penalties for saying, wait a minute, let's talk about this, or what about this point of view, or have we thought this through? | ||
| Ordinary journalism, ordinary public debate. | ||
| You know, when I was a kid, you know, by the way, I'm not an anti-vaxxer. | ||
| I've taken every vaccine that I've been told to take, you know, from a child, you know, Jonas Salk was a hero. | ||
| And then in the Navy, before we deployed to basic vaccines, we had to take, and then later deploying to the Pacific and Asia and the Middle East that you were told to go take the vaccines. | ||
| You wouldn't talk to me and didn't even, it wasn't even a question. | ||
| This area, though, of vaccine hesitancy and people that are trying to get to the bottom and actually have a debate on what actually this virus is and what's the best solutions, whether it's therapeutics, whether it's, you know, the natural immunity that comes from having a virus, you know, herd immunity that comes from having the antibodies or maybe vaccines. | ||
| Is that what they're trying to shut down now? | ||
| Because this morning we could have pulled 50 clips from TV, MSNBC and CNN just hammering on the Indian Delta virus variant in about, you know, from Mississippi to Missouri. | ||
| You've just got to get this vaccine or you're hurting your fellow man. | ||
| Why are they so obsessed? | ||
| With trying to use the anti-vax crowd to shut down people that have legitimate, and I'm not saying the anti-vax is not legitimate, that's the, I just don't understand, you know, all the science related to it, but the people like you, Dr. Lone and others, are sitting there going, hey, we gotta, we really, there's a lot of questioning here. | ||
| Why are they trying to shut that down? | ||
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Well, I think there are multiple factors at work. | |
| MSNBC, the clip that your producer sent me, showed some interesting slits Um, that number that they cited was that 165 million people have been fully vaccinated. | ||
| There are 330 million people in this country. | ||
| And so that contradicts statements by Dr. Fauci and CDC director and Jen Psaki that a minority of people, I mean a small minority, have not been vaccinated. | ||
| So the hesitance are substantial. | ||
| So basically what's happened is they had a deliverable, it appears, of 70% vaccinated. | ||
| For whoever in pharma or whoever in tech helped them win this election, And we'll help them in the next one. | ||
| They're not producing and they're under pressure. | ||
| That's how I read this. | ||
| So they're frantic and they've tried, as we've said before, incentives like lotteries and free donuts. | ||
| That didn't work as more and more news came out about deaths and side effects and myocarditis and so on. | ||
| And I am not an anti-vaxxer, but this isn't an FDA approved vaccine. | ||
| Let's just face that. | ||
| So people are not stupid. | ||
| to pay attention when there are side effects, especially for their kids. But that didn't work, so now they're telling lies. MSNBC also only cites itself. | ||
| You notice in that riff about, when MSNBC talks about, you're endangering people around you if you're not vaccinated. | ||
| There is no science for that, that I have seen. | ||
| Vaccines are effective, it appears, especially for older people, at minimizing your symptoms. | ||
| But they do not, and even the manufacturers don't claim, They stop you from transmitting to other people. | ||
| So to me, this is like Goebbels' big lie. | ||
| You know, they're saying over and over and over again that they get to intrude on you, intrude on your decision-making, intrude on your home, censor your social media, because you are a threat to others if you don't do this. | ||
| But you're just a threat to yourself, just like obesity, just like overdrinking or, you know, drug abuse or any other choice you might make. | ||
| That affects you. | ||
| They have to create it as a communitarian problem, falsely, in order to justify all of these tyrannical interventions. | ||
| So I feel like people are not buying it. | ||
| They're not delivering. | ||
| They're getting pressure from whoever, you know, is behind this whole monstrous push to create a meld between the state and pharma and big tech and, you know, with some influence from China. | ||
| Um, and they're, they're freaking out. | ||
| And so now they're going to, we're going to do what they did to me. | ||
| We're going to kick you off to Twitter, social media. | ||
| We're going to go tell your employers, you are not credible. | ||
| Um, you know, we're going to intimidate people around you who might want to do the same thing. | ||
| We're going to show up at your home. | ||
| We're going to let you know, we're breathing down your neck. | ||
| It's, it's not going to be free speech anymore. | ||
| And, uh, we've succeeded in this by claiming that Speech and freedom to communicate, share information, good information, bad information, it's America, is a public health threat. | ||
| You know, meanwhile, I mean, as I always say, look at real public health threats in America. | ||
| You know, obesity kills, heart disease kills, diabetes, people can't afford their diabetes treatments. | ||
| Asthma is killing children. | ||
| Zero attention to the real systematic Lasting, lingering health threats to everybody and not just, sadly, very elderly and immunocompromised people. | ||
| Dr. Wolf, we only got a minute left, but I want to ask you, you warned about corporations getting into these digital passports. | ||
| The last couple of days, NFL, other corporations. | ||
| How dangerous is the slope that we're going down right now, in your opinion? | ||
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I mean, it's so relentless. | |
| They will not stop. | ||
| I'm in a hotel, which is a chain, I'm here at Freedom Fest in Rapid City, and they have signs everywhere saying, if you're not vaccinated, you have to wear a mask. | ||
| That's pressure on corporations to make people be willing to have a digital passport just through coercion, making it uncomfortable, marginalizing for people who cannot show that pass. | ||
| You know. | ||
| New York State, as you mentioned, players are being punished in a way that seems clearly illegal for resisting a medical intervention in their bodies that they don't consent to. | ||
| I keep saying, and I shouldn't have to keep saying it because we should all know this, There are so many laws that this violates. | ||
| It violates the Nuremberg Code, it violates HIPAA, it violates the Americans with Disabilities Act, it violates the Equality Act. | ||
| It's completely illegal, but it does seem like a very gigantic agenda strategy is to get everyone vaccinated and on the grid of vaccine passports to control us. | ||
| Dr. Wolfe, just hang over through the break. | ||
| We're going to have Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Naomi Wolfe next in the war room. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Banham. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| All right, I want you to take a look at this. | ||
| All of these tweets are asking some variation. | ||
| They're small, but take my word for it. | ||
| Some variation of the question, what's the point in getting vaccinated if people are getting COVID anyway? | ||
| This is an emerging mindset among the unvaccinated since reports of so-called breakthrough infections have become more frequent. | ||
| And that's the kind of mindset that is putting millions of people at risk. | ||
| If there are people in your orbit using breakthrough cases as an excuse not to get vaccinated, this is what they need to know. | ||
| Breakthrough cases occur in fully vaccinated people who test positive for coronavirus, but there's a difference between testing positive and getting sick. | ||
| Vaccines are largely effective at preventing severe illness and death by creating antibodies that help fight the virus once it enters your body. | ||
| They're not a magic coat of armor that repels the disease like a superhero suit. | ||
| We've known this from the beginning. | ||
| No one who knows anything about vaccine development ever said the COVID vaccine would make us immune. | ||
| They do make it so that even if you did catch the virus, you'd have far less of a reaction to it than if you were unvaccinated. | ||
| There are more than 162 million fully vaccinated people in the United States. | ||
| Breakthrough infections occur in just a tiny sliver of them. | ||
| And recent studies show that most COVID cases in vaccinated people are mild. | ||
| Okay, thank you. | ||
| I've heard enough of Ali Veshi. | ||
| Okay, Dr. Wolf, I know you got a punch. | ||
| You're at Freedom Fest, you're taking off today. | ||
| We're going to get Dr. Malone to deconstruct this, but how do people Get to you to find out information that you're discussing right now, because before you're deplatformed, before you're deplatformed, according to Jen Psaki, how do people get to Daily Cloud? | ||
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And you can join our Five Freedoms campaign to end mask mandates, end vaccine passports, reassembly open schools now, and end emergency law. | |
| And you can pass model legislation state by state. | ||
| But honestly, that's not enough. | ||
| So I'm issuing a quick call. | ||
| I think there has to be a boycott now, financial boycott of investors and consumers and retail consumers of businesses that are discriminating. | ||
| I think parents have to start removing their kids from schools that are forcing this on We'll have you back on. | ||
| I want to find out more about the boycott and all these things. | ||
| We'll try to get you back on Monday. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You have to tell everybody, this is your issue, and you are going to switch sides in the midterms if they don't stop. | ||
| And honestly, that is more powerful than anything. | ||
| We need a big tent to take our country back. | ||
| You're on fire. | ||
| We'll have you back on. | ||
| I want to find out more about the boycott and all these things. | ||
| We'll try to get you back on Monday. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Thank you, Dr. Wolf. | ||
| Thank you for changing your schedule to be on. | ||
| Dr. Malone, you're the inventor of mRNA, although it's getting harder to find that out since they're, what, disappearing years, what the Chinese Communist Party says, right? | ||
| From the internet. | ||
| I'd like you to respond to MSNBC, Ali Veshi this morning, about the statement he made at the beginning of his show. | ||
| So, Ali is a great example of the, that piece that you just, the clip you just showed, is a great example of somebody who really doesn't understand the issues, but they're parroting the party line that they've been fed. | ||
| He said a number of things that are right and a number of things that are wrong. | ||
| You know, down in the weeds, probably most of the protection provided by these vaccines is through cellular immunity, not by antibodies, but that's down in the weeds. | ||
| It's true that The vaccines are tested to provide protection against disease and death as their principal endpoints and reduction of severity in disease. | ||
| They were not tested and characterized for their ability to reduce infection, replication, or transmissibility. | ||
| They're actually relatively poor at protecting from transmission from me to you if I'm infected. | ||
| They're about maybe in the range of 50% effective for that. | ||
| So that has a bunch of key meanings. | ||
| One is that we really can't get to herd immunity with these vaccines. | ||
| Now, he said a number of other things that kind of fit into what I think is scare tactics being used. | ||
| The The point that he's making about the vast majority of people that are being infected and developing disease or death with Delta, those data are still emerging in the United States and there's evidence in Florida that there's manipulation of those data so that there is a pretty florid underreporting of people who are vaccinated | ||
| coming into the hospital and there are groups of nurses and other health care providers in Florida for example that are reporting that the majority of the people that they're encountering in their hospitals that have disease, severe disease, are vaccinated. | ||
| This whole tension is folks fighting about things and not even understanding what they're talking about. | ||
| In populations that are highly vaccinated, you'll see a larger fraction of those that come into the hospital have received vaccine before because the vaccines truly don't protect that well from infection. | ||
| That is not the endpoint they were designed for. | ||
| And we know this from the British data in the data from Israel. | ||
| So There's a number of things that he said that are half-truths and a number of things that he said that just come across as party line hyperbole distortions designed to drive people to accept vaccine that are otherwise vaccine hesitant. | ||
| Over. | ||
| Okay, Dr. Mone, I just want to make sure, I just want to reiterate this. | ||
| Not only are you not an anti-vaxxer, you've spent your entire life, essentially, personal and professional, in this search for and working on vaccines. | ||
| The platform technology here, yeah, all true. | ||
| The platform technology came off of my bench. | ||
| I've been involved in bringing many vaccines forward. | ||
| I am absolutely not an anti-vaxxer. | ||
| I am in favor of bioethics, of honesty and integrity in public health. | ||
| I think as a physician and as a scientist, that is crucial that we be open and transparent. | ||
| And as your prior guest was correctly saying, there's a number of laws embedded in U.S. | ||
| federal code. | ||
| That require, particularly for experimental products, which these remain experimental, they're not yet market authorized, that you have to have full disclosure of risks. | ||
| And those risks are being hidden. | ||
| It's it's a conscious effort on the part of the government, because they believe that to share the full information set about what those risks are, will cause people to not take vaccine. | ||
| And this is the logic where they label the dirty dozen recently of people like Dr. McCullough and call them killers because the assertion that they're leading to people having unnecessary deaths through not accepting vaccine. | ||
| This is another one of the Belchy misstatements or lies embedded in what he was saying is that Well, actually, we're over 80% vaccinated in the cohort that matters the most. | ||
| It's at highest risk for COVID, which is the elderly. | ||
| So when they say, well, we're only at 50% vaccine uptake. | ||
| Yeah, that's because a lot of the people that aren't at high risk for COVID disease and death have not accepted vaccine. | ||
| But for those that are at high risk, the vaccine uptake has been very high. | ||
| You dropped a bombshell early in this interview, and by the way, we're going to ask you to stay on. | ||
| We're going to have Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| on next, given his schedule, but we're going to ask you to stay. | ||
| You just said something. | ||
| You said it's impossible. | ||
| To get to herd immunity with the vaccines. | ||
| This is exactly what, opposite of what Fauci said, has now been saying for the last 90 days, which has got me so upset about, hey, you don't count, because we had Hatfield and Ibrahim, we started this show back in January 2020, full time, and the whole first discussion of herd immunity with Hatfield and all the experts was, hey, it's going to come from antibodies and T-cells and other things, maybe a vaccine 10 years down the road, but | ||
| You just said opposite of what the government's saying, and particularly the Chief Medical Advisor to the President, Anthony Fauci, he's saying you've got to get to 80 or 90% vaccinations to get to herd immunity. | ||
| So what evidence are you putting forward? | ||
| You're saying you absolutely cannot get to herd immunity through vaccinations? | ||
| So when Tony says those things, he's just pulling... As we know, Tony is quite willing to lie if he thinks it's for the common good. | ||
| And he clearly is a true believer that he believes that everybody needs to take this vaccine. | ||
| But in order to calculate the amount of vaccine uptake required to reach herd immunity, I know how to do those calculations. | ||
| I'm trained in this. | ||
| You have to have data on how the vaccine impacts on virus transmission. | ||
| They don't have those data. | ||
| They have the data on infection and disease. | ||
| It makes sense if you think about it. | ||
| Herd immunity is a very technical term. | ||
| It has to do with getting to the point where if I'm infected, I, on average, will be able to infect less than one person. | ||
| And so the virus will be extinguished in the population when that happens. | ||
| The way that usually happens, and it's probably going to end up happening here because the vaccines really aren't that great. | ||
| They're good at protecting from disease and death with the original variant. | ||
| But the way it's probably going to happen here, as it almost always does, is through natural infection. | ||
| And natural infection does appear to provide broader and more durable. | ||
| that's the technical term we use for how long that protection lasts, uh, protection, uh, relative to the vaccines, the disclosure from Pfizer that they think we have to have boosting at six months is a tell what it means is the durability from the Pfizer vaccine is modest at best. | ||
| And they believe you have to re-vaccinate at six months. | ||
| I don't think that's coming just because they want to make a buck, which they do. | ||
| But I think it's coming because they know that the vaccine protection wanes at six months. | ||
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Does that make sense? | |
| Yes, it does. | ||
| Dr. Malone, can you just hang on? | ||
| We're going to bring in Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| in the next segment and then back to Dr. Robert Malone. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Surgeon General advisories are reserved for urgent public health threats. | ||
| And while those threats have often been related to what we eat, drink, and smoke, today we live in a world where misinformation poses an imminent and insidious threat to our nation's health. | ||
| Health misinformation is false, inaccurate, or misleading information about health, according to the best evidence at the time. | ||
| And while it often appears innocuous on social media apps, on retail sites, or search engines, the truth is that misinformation takes away our freedom to make informed decisions about our health and the health of our loved ones. | ||
| During the COVID-19 pandemic, health misinformation has led people to resist wearing masks in high-risk settings, It's led them to turn down proven treatments and to choose not to get vaccinated. | ||
| This has led to avoidable illnesses and death. | ||
| Okay, that was the Surgeon General of the United States the other day over at the White House. | ||
| The urgent public health threat is now misinformation. | ||
| It's Saturday, the 24th of July, year of our 2021. | ||
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| Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| joins us now. | ||
| Robert, I met you briefly during the transition when you came up and had a meeting with then President-elect Trump. | ||
| To walk through your ideas and information regarding vaccines and other issues regarding public health and that meeting got to be pretty controversial. | ||
| I just got to ask you before we get into talking about Fauci, the Surgeon General coming out the other day and citing this study from the Center for Countering Digital Hate. | ||
| And inciting you is like the number two guy and back to dr. | ||
| Mercola and saying this an urgent public health threat Just I just want your own perspective When you make your speeches do your analysis you've got your center you put on information you put out reports Do you think that you're you're? | ||
| Adding to or your focus is on digital hate is is that is that concept applied to any of the work that you're doing? | ||
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No, not only does it not have anything to do with digital hate It has to do... We don't put out any misinformation. | |
| Listen, Steve. | ||
| On our advisory board, we have Luke Montagnier, the Nobel Prize winner, who discovered the HIV virus. | ||
| We have the former chief of the National Toxicity Program at HHS. | ||
| We have about 212 PhDs and scientists. | ||
| If we were putting out misinformation, Those people would have nothing to do with us. | ||
| When I got called off, the item that got flagged was an item where I said we should have Congress investigate whether or not the Wuhan lab, whether there was a lab leak in the Wuhan lab that is responsible for the Coronavirus-19. | ||
| And Instagram said that is false information. | ||
| That is misinformation. | ||
| That's what the Surgeon General and everybody was saying then. | ||
| Last week, the National Intelligence Agency acknowledged that that is probably what happened. | ||
| So, you know, the term misinformation has nothing to do with whether it's a false idea. | ||
| It's a movement. | ||
| Or anything that departs from official orthodoxy, from proclamation, and from the pharmaceutical industry's bottom line. | ||
| And they can't point to a single peak of misinformation at a single statement. | ||
| Every statement going public is cited and sourced to peer-reviewed publications or to government databases. | ||
| We do not deal in These are things that the government of the pharmaceutical industry does not want the American public to hear. | ||
| It has nothing to do with their installs or to it. | ||
| Robert, hang on for a second. | ||
| It's a little broken up, so we're going to try to clear this up, because what you're saying is important. | ||
| Why would the Surgeon General Then come forward with something when normally it's about smoking, or it's about obesity, or it's about cancer, or AIDS, or HIV, or something like that. | ||
| Why would they come forward and say, a urgent, urgent public health threat? | ||
| is misinformation and then cite a study by the Center for Digital Hate that listed you as the number two person and went through all the research you've been doing at your institution, at your organization. | ||
| Why would the Surgeon General, in your mind, why would you believe the Surgeon General would do that when the Surgeon General you would think would be independent from the corporate interest of Big Pharma? | ||
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Well, the Surgeon General is part of a captive agency. | |
| CDC spends 49% of its budget on vaccines, on buying and selling, or buying and distributing vaccines. | ||
| FDA gets 50% of its budget for vaccines, and the entire HHS budget actually. | ||
| The metric is not public policy. | ||
| The metric that they judge themselves, that they give bonuses for, that they reward themselves with their victory is how many vaccines they can give. | ||
| Since we started the vaccine program in 1989, since we blew up the vaccine program by giving the vaccine, we've gone from the three vaccines that I had as a kid to 72 | ||
| I tell you, Robert, we're going to have to, this is so important and you're punching in and out, we've got to get Denver to reboot this so let's get him on the phone because I don't want to miss this interview. | ||
| Dr. Malone, I'm going to bring you in while we're going to fix the The audio of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| So Dr. Malone, first off, I want to go back to what I was asking Robert Kennedy. | ||
| I got some very specific questions asked you about the vaccines and the part that you worked on, but I want to go back to the Surgeon General part. | ||
| Why would they say it's an, or why would the Surgeon General, who's supposed to be dealing with your health, come up and say it's a public, it's an urgent public health Threat. | ||
| And then have Jen Psaki say, hey, if you're deplatformed off one, you ought to be deplatformed off others. | ||
| What would drive the Surgeon General to do that? | ||
| So there's a policy that is legacy. | ||
| I think it really goes back to mid-century and it's in the Federal Register in 1984, in a fascinating twist of fate, where the government makes statements that they believe that it is necessary and appropriate to Ensure the suppression of any information that could cause vaccine hesitancy. | ||
| Reduce vaccine uptake. | ||
| So they are firmly believing that we should not have information that might cause us to be vaccine hesitant, such as information about risks. | ||
| So that has been the longstanding public policy going back to the 50s. | ||
| And I think what we've got is the intersection of this outdated legacy idea that the government has to ensure that there's no information out there that's contrary to their narrative in order to prosecute what they believe is in the best interest of the public. | ||
| And so they bring out the big hammer and they're, they're making claims that the likes of RFK are responsible for people dying because they're not taking vaccine. | ||
| It is tortured pretzel logic, but that's, that has been the way the government has approached these things in the past. | ||
| And they seem to have not learned from the modern media environment. | ||
| And they think that it's okay for them to continue to try to control all information and to suppress any information that's contrary to the narrative that they believe they need to prosecute in order to preserve public health. | ||
| I call this the noble lie, and it's just based on a series of falsehoods. | ||
| I want to go back to Fauci for a second. | ||
| You say, Fauci's got this, you know, the Jesuits have this thing, I think the concept's called reserve. | ||
| That you can say something, although you don't really believe it, because you think for the greater good that it's better for the unwashed masses to know it this way. | ||
| Do you actually think that's the game that Fauci's playing? | ||
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| What you call the noble lie? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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And your illusion... Walk us through that. | |
| He's a Jesuit. | ||
| He's a Jesuit. | ||
| So that's the connection you're making. | ||
| And it's also grounded in the thinking of Plato, the Greek philosopher, the noble lie. | ||
| So what they believe is that it's in the common good, and it's appropriate for people of high status and government leaders to lie for the common good. | ||
| And there is this grounding in Jesuit theology and in Platonic philosophy that that's the case. | ||
| His lie, the lie that they have chosen to promote, Is that the only way that we can get back economically is to reach herd immunity. | ||
| Number two, that the only way to reach herd immunity is through vaccines. | ||
| And number three, that vaccines are perfectly safe. | ||
| And all three of those are demonstrably false. | ||
| But they got wrapped around the axle with this lie, and they can't back off. | ||
| They're too deep now. | ||
| They're too all-in, because you can't unwind. | ||
| How deep you've gotten in, you can't unwind. | ||
| Do you think, by the way, you're the inventor of this, do you believe it's maybe dangerous to use mRNA to actually simulate a vaccine? | ||
| When we say this is experimental gene therapy, you're the inventor of this. | ||
| Do you think it's dangerous? | ||
| And if you think it's dangerous, to what level? | ||
| Danger or safety with vaccines and all drugs is relative. | ||
| The technology itself may have some safety issues we don't know yet, having to do with the novel lipids that are being used for the first time in large-scale distribution. | ||
| That's just being honest. | ||
| The other aspects about this, these technologies, including the adenovirus vectors, are application agnostic. | ||
| You can put whatever genetic sequence in And deliver it that you want. | ||
| And you could put in toxic sequences that code for toxins. | ||
| Proteins that have biologic effects that are going to cause disease and harm. | ||
| What seems to have happened here is that people took the easy road. | ||
| They took the most immunogenic protein from Spike. | ||
| They used that for all these vaccines. | ||
| And they weren't aware that Spike has its own activity. | ||
| That the virus has evolved, and that activity that spike protein has, and is documented in multiple peer-reviewed papers, includes opening the blood-brain barrier, causing damage to vascular endothelial cells, these are the cells that line the blood vessels, and triggering coagulation, and manipulating immune responses. | ||
| So spike is not just a antigen, It has its own biologic activities. | ||
| And they could easily have engineered these vaccines so they weren't expressing full-length spike, but in the rush to try to get something out the door, they didn't really think or address those risks. | ||
| And that's what gets us here. | ||
| But second-generation products are, I'm sure, are going to be engineered that lack a lot of these risks. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short break. | ||
| Dr. Malone is going to be with us. | ||
| We're trying to get Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| booted back up. | ||
| The question I have for Dr. Malone, when he comes back, is it toxic to inject spike protein into a human being? | ||
| We'll check all this out. | ||
| Robert F. Kennedy, the author of the new book on anti-foul, should be back in the War Room in just a second. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, I think we're over our technical issues. | ||
| I want to bring back Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| He is the author of the upcoming book, The Real Anthony Fauci. | ||
| Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the global war on democracy and public health. | ||
| Robert, here's the question. | ||
| The Surgeon General just came out the other day and said the urgent public health crisis now is misinformation, and they cite you as one of the top purveyors of that. | ||
| I think you and a group of others, the Dirty Dozen, are responsible for 65% of what they say is misinformation regarding specifically COVID-19 or what we call the CCP virus. | ||
| What would be your response to that, sir? | ||
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We don't broadcast. | |
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That's We got to do this on... Robert, we can't hear you at all. | ||
| The Skype's just not coming through. | ||
| Let's just see if we can boot him up on phone, because I don't want to miss this. | ||
| We apologize, but it's just a Skype connection. | ||
| And that happens in these broadcasting days, so we'll work this out. | ||
| I want to go back to... Is Dr. Malone still with us? | ||
| Can I go back to Dr. Malone? | ||
| So Dr. Malone, can you, Dr. Malone, are you with us? | ||
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I'm here. | |
| Hey, how you doing? | ||
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Testing. | |
| So yeah, we got you. | ||
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Is it toxic to put spike protein into a human being? | |
| So everything's relative. | ||
| Spike has toxicities. | ||
| The native spike clearly has toxicities. | ||
| That's part of what drives the COVID disease. | ||
| Every drug or vaccine is toxic at some level in some percent of people and there's pretty clear evidence that the spike protein expressed from vaccines is causing toxicity in a small subset of patients. | ||
| The question is how big is that subset and how bad and broad are those toxicities? | ||
| And the honest truth is We don't know. | ||
| And furthermore, there's a lot of signs that that information is being withheld from us. | ||
| So, how does it... Ho, ho, ho, hang on a second. | ||
| You drop bombs all the time. | ||
| What do you mean being withheld from us? | ||
| Ali Veshi just said at MSNBC, you know, the dirty dozen is the problem, the misinformation is the problem, the Surgeon General seems the problem, Dr. Malone, the inventor of this, he's now the problem because he's gone rogue. | ||
| What do you mean, how do you back up the fact you think they're holding back information? | ||
| What do you cite and what information are they withholding? | ||
| Because I have colleagues in the government who are fully aware and were aware months before, for instance, the cardiotoxicity was disclosed, that the cardiotoxicity was an issue. | ||
| What I'm hearing now from multiple sources is that individuals are purchasing access, for instance, to the Medicare-Medicaid database. | ||
| and high net worth individuals and are paying for biostatisticians to independently evaluate those. | ||
| And in some cases, biostatisticians and data experts are doing this voluntarily because they're so concerned about what's going on. | ||
| And what they're finding is that the CDC is grossly under-reporting these key adverse events that in data that the US government produces that is readily available to the CDC. | ||
| And my colleagues, senior colleagues at the FDA, have known that this was the case for months and are very frustrated. | ||
| This goes back to my interview with Tucker, where I, that's, you know, another bomb I dropped is that these databases are horrible. | ||
| And, but even despite all their limitations, People with skill are able to data mine those and identify things like the cardiotoxicity that at the time the CDC denied existed. | ||
| We have multiple examples where the CDC appears to be editing data in the support of this, you know, the noble lie. | ||
| Remember, going back to that, the core thesis is, and as I said, it's in the Federal Register, the core thesis is that any information That would cause vaccine hesitancy must be suppressed. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| Let's be clear about that. | ||
| And they believe that it is okay to do so because it's in the best interest of the public. | ||
| This is classic Nobel lie logic. | ||
| It's also happening in Israel. | ||
| But this is a different time. | ||
| People For right or wrong, they believe that they deserve to have access to all of these data, make their own choices, exercise their own free will, not be forced into decisions by the government about risks that they don't fully understand. | ||
| And yet the government believes that it is still okay to treat us in this paternalistic manner, like they did back in the 50s, You know, as they say, right? | ||
| Treat us like a bunch of mushrooms. | ||
| You understand the metaphor? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's no longer okay in the modern age. | ||
| But what's different now is that they have these enormously powerful mechanisms for controlling information they never had before. | ||
| And that's this intersection of new media, old media, and big tech. | ||
| And that is what's going on here and they've never had that level of power in their tools before. | ||
| Real quickly, we've got about a minute here, and we'd love you to hold through the break, too, but does the Pfizer situation with the booster, the difference between conspiracy theory and a fact now is about six months, because remember, a couple of months ago, anybody would bring up the fact that we're going to need a booster or another shot was a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| Does that get to your point about the novel line? | ||
| I mean, remember, they trashed everybody that even brought it up about potentially having a booster. | ||
| We've got about a minute. | ||
| Yeah, Tony jumped on Pfizer right away, right? | ||
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And said, no, you can't say that. | |
| It's an amazing demonstration of this in real time, where the leadership of Pfizer says, we're going to need a booster at six months because the durability of our vaccines are waning. | ||
| By the way, that's exactly the window in antibody dependent enhancement becomes the greatest risk is during the waning phase of a vaccine. | ||
| The Pfizer guy says, we got to do this to protect people. | ||
| Tony jumps on him and says, no, I didn't allow you to say that. | ||
| That's the paraphrase of what he did. | ||
| And if you, if you need yet another demonstration of Tony's willingness to distort the truth, there, you got it. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| We're going to try to get booted up with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| again, hopefully this time by phone. | ||
| Dr. Malone's going to continue to join us. | ||
| We've got Ty and Charlene Bollinger, Aaron Elizabeth, a whole cast of characters in the next hour. | ||
| We're going to get to all the bottom of the Dirty Dozen. |
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