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Episode 962 – Power in Numbers (w/ Matthew Lohmeier, Boris Epshteyn, Beth Ann Hnat)Episode 962 – Power in Numbers (w/ Matthew Lohmeier, Boris Epshteyn, Beth Ann Hnat)
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Remember today in the Financial Times talks about the United Kingdom battleship diplomacy.
They are sending out their first aircraft carrier in many decades, is now en route to the South China Sea.
I think it's gonna be home ported in Singapore for a while.
There's a violation, at least according to the Chinese Communist Party, says the United States Navy destroyer In their territorial waters.
Don't think so, but that, as we've said for a long time, South China Sea and Taiwan are the two hot spots to keep your eye on, because, you know, as we slide from unrestricted warfare, as you guys know, the famous book that we talk about all the time, unrestricted warfare, as we now shift From just information and cyber and psychological warfare, their propaganda, also economic warfare, the second leg of the stool, to kinetic.
We've got to avoid kinetic.
You've got to be strong to avoid that.
So talking about strong, I want to go back to Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer.
Colonel, I'm just here looking at you.
The title of the book, Irresistible Revolution, it's got an amazing subtitle I want you to give, but where did you get that title from?
unidentified
Thanks for asking.
The subtitle is Marxism's Goal of Conquest and the Unmaking of the American Military.
That's necessarily provocative, but what's actually just as important is that first main title, Irresistible Revolution.
That comes from a quote that was given by one of the founders of Black Lives Matter, Janaya Khan, goes by Future Khan, said that the role of the artist is to make the revolution, the Marxist revolution, irresistible, make it a fait accompli.
If you can get people to buy into new language, newly defined terms, revolutionary terms, and get them to think that they're acting for what's right, then you make the revolution irresistible.
And so I trace through some of the lineage of ideas that lead to the point where we're at today, where you've got good people unwittingly, compassionately, potentially even, buying into a revolutionary agenda that is intent on the overthrow of the United States government.
steve bannon
You actually go back and go to the roots of this, even more than Marx and Engels, about Herbert Marcuse, the Frankfurt School, all of that.
My partner, before he passed away, Andrew Breitbart, was one of the top people talking about this 10, 12 years ago.
He said, culture's upriver from politics.
We focus too much on elective politics.
You don't really get to the point of what's driving the underlying narrative.
So walk us through.
How do we get from Marx and Engels' failed economics, ridiculous economics, that not even the transnational criminal organizations that are the Chinese Communist Party or the Soviet Union, they don't even abide by it, right?
They're kind of into state capitalism, some form of state capitalism.
But how did this, the cultural revolutionary part of the Marxist, not just, we win, you you know the Berlin Wall comes down right and And yet, you know, 25 years later or 30 years later, we're having to deal with this cultural Marxism.
How has that been able to survive?
unidentified
Well, it's been able to, so I want to say that why it was important that we, not we, why it was important that cultural and social
Marxism became the focus of those intent on the dismantling of Western society was because the American people, by and large, bought into a value system that enabled them to not buy into what was a traditional Marxist narrative, the oppressor versus oppressed narrative, groups of economically stratified oppressor and oppressed classes of people, just like Italian Communist Party leader Antonio Gramsci said,
We're disappointed in what we see in the Western societies, Western civilization.
They're not buying into this narrative because they believe too much in their Western liberal democratic system.
And so what we need to do is undermine their belief and trust in Judeo-Christian values in America.
It's to divorce them from America's founding philosophy, and it's to dismantle the nuclear family.
Those are all, by the way, aims that show up on the Black Lives Matter website.
They've been removed in the past few months, but they were on there for a long time.
So, in the 1930s, you mentioned Herbert Marcuse, there were a number of founders of the Frankfurt School that flee Hitler's Third Reich in Germany.
They come to the United States, I think it was to Columbia's Teachers College, and the numbers of the Communist Party USA boom in the 1930s, and they establish a school of thought called Critical School or Critical Theory.
Which is essentially the incessant criticism of all things Western civilization in the hope that they could help over time, they knew it would be a long subversive battle, divorce the American people from their belief and their traditional philosophy and founding values.
That morphs over a few decades into what became known as critical legal theory in the 1960s and 70s time frame.
And by far its most political variant and the grandchild of critical theory in Herbert Marcuse's school of thought is now critical race theory.
The seeds have been planted for decades in academia and it's not until the last year that we've seen this kind of stuff really start to spread wildly in the United States military.
steve bannon
And this is the theory of the case of your book.
You're saying they did a long march through the institutions, right?
They did a long march through the institutions with this critical race theory, which is at the basis of cultural Marxism.
And now they're at the most revered and really stable institution, and really the last institution in American life.
The media, the mainline churches, politics, everything, you know, and Gallup polls, you know, in the low teens, right, as far as people's respect for them.
The military is always the highest.
The Long March through the institutions, they now come for the military and they come for the military because they understand it's one of the bedrock foundational institutions of the American people.
So how have they, your subtitle is so provocative, how have they now tried to implement this radical cultural Marxist belief system into the United States military and what did you do to stop it?
unidentified
Well, what I hoped to do to stop it was to tee up a conversation that we were unfortunately not having.
We have a climate of fear that is being created at the moment, and frankly I'll give it as my opinion, although I don't know because I've not spoken with anyone in my chain of command.
When you live in a climate of fear, people make rash decisions.
So, for example, I was relieved of command without anyone in the chain of command asking me what was in my book, And so therefore they don't mention the book when I'm relieved of command for cause.
But I wanted to tee up a conversation about how this is fundamentally transforming our culture, specifically people who disagree with, say, the basis or premises of our diversity and inclusion trainings are afraid to voice their concern even, not even just disagreement, but concern.
I just got an email I get emails all day long from active duty service members right now, both in my work email and my personal email.
And this high ranking individual just sent me an email saying, thank you so much.
I've tried to voice these concerns to my chain of command, but to no avail.
And in fact, her letter to me that just came in five minutes before your show is typical of literally hundreds of other service members that have reached out in the last two days saying the exact same thing.
I've used my chain of command.
I'm not hearing anything back.
I don't think it's because the chain of command isn't empathetic to the concerns that are being raised.
I think it's because we live in a climate of fear.
And that alone is one thing that's changing fundamentally about United States military culture.
People are afraid to voice their patriotism.
In fact, let me point out one more thing.
I've heard and just read online that as they attempt to redefine what extremism looks like, they're building new categories of extremism because you can't use the existing categories to wrap up People like me, let's say, who are patriotic and have conservative values and views.
And so they're creating potentially, although it's not beneficial, a new form of extremism called Patriot Extremism.
Patriot Extremism.
As if you don't want your service members to be patriotic.
And that's deeply troubling.
And so that's why someone has to talk up about it.
In fact, I think a lot of people are going to talk up about it now.
You don't, in a free society, If you want people to have a desire to serve in the armed forces, and they always have traditionally in the United States because we have a great country, you don't start abusing them.
You don't start teaching them that the country they live in is not worth defending.
You don't teach them that the Constitution they take an oath to defend is not worth defending.
And you don't teach them that patriotism is evil or bad.
steve bannon
Hang on, it's worse than that though, and this is where I want to get to.
What I don't understand their logic is, is that the 1619 project and everything they talk about, and you so eloquently said about the documents, our founding documents, particularly the Constitution, it is basically the legal structure for systemic racism from the country's actual formation into a nation, from when the settlers come into an actual nation, is systemically racist, and this codified it.
How do they answer the question, you take an oath to this, right?
You take an oath to this in the military to defend that Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
So how do they, in fact, when you talk to your seniors, how do they get around putting this poison that says it's systemically racist, and it's systemically racist because of the inherent racism and white supremacism, but it's codified by this document.
How do they get around, how do they argue to you, you get around that you swear an oath to this.
You basically swear your life, you will defend this with your life.
From all enemies, foreign and domestic.
How do they, when they talk to you about that internally, how do they square that?
unidentified
Well, I don't think that they do.
In fact, we haven't had a healthy conversation about this because of that climate of fear.
And so there's an ideologically based line that is pushed and everyone sits there quietly and listens and goes home and complains about it to their family and friends.
We're not addressing that contradiction that you point out.
And you mentioned the 1619 Project.
That is according to, I think it's Jake Silverstein, maybe that's how you pronounce his last name.
He was the chief editor for the project, I believe.
But he says openly that the project was an attempt to reframe American history.
And I'll tell you, if you go do a word search on the 100-page New York Times 1619 Project, if you're a service member, you go count the number of times the Declaration of Independence and Constitution show up in that 100-page series of essays, and I want you to find one positive thing that's said about the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, because you won't.
They're all negative, and they cast those documents in our founding in a negative light, and there's a purpose for that, and there's a reason that the There's been a 1619 project booklet that's been produced and distributed to probably near 5,000 schools now in the country at the moment.
It's because there's an effort underway to divorce the American people from the founding philosophy and a belief system that will keep this country intact and actually prevent a Marxist revolution.
And so, yeah, that was what drove the criticality of the book.
That's why I wrote it so quickly.
It was all in my free time.
It was all of my own dime, and I spent much of my own money to make that book happen very quickly.
In fact, all of it was my money, and so Irresistible Revolution was my best effort to do exactly what the Secretary of Defense in February asked people to do.
It's combat extremist ideologies.
It was a direction from the highest levels of our Defense Department, and it's also in line with my constitutional obligation and my obligation to teach truth.
steve bannon
Colonel, just hang on one second.
We'll bring you back over the short term.
That book is available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble.
How do people get access to it?
unidentified
Yeah, you can go to MatthewLohmeyer.com.
I've got many hot links there.
They can buy it direct from Aereo.com.
Frankly, Amazon's showing it as out of stock, although that's not accurate.
It's a print-on-demand book.
Okay, sir.
steve bannon
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We'll return with Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer in the War Room in a moment.
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I'm gonna turn back now to Lieutenant Colonel Lohmeyer and his book.
By the way, Colonel Lohmeyer, once again, give the name of the book and how can people get access to it, because our live audience, their heads are blowing up about this.
What's the title of the book and how do people get to it?
unidentified
Sure.
The title of the book is Irresistible Revolution, Marxism's Goal of Conquest and the Unmaking of the American Military.
They can get it on MatthewLohmeyer.com.
There are a number of links there.
If you see that it's out of stock on Amazon, go support a different retailer, because it's print-on-demand.
steve bannon
Okay, I also want to make sure, in a disclaimer, these are all the personal beliefs of Colonel Lohmeyer and obviously not the beliefs of the Department of Defense or the Air Force, the Space Command, any of that.
It's all his personal beliefs.
But I want to say, I want to make sure people understand something.
This just did not happen with the Biden administration.
This was even during President Trump's administration, obviously unbeknownst to President Trump.
This infiltration had already started.
This poison was already in the system.
Is that correct, sir?
unidentified
It is.
This isn't administration specific.
And so one of the things I've seen show up in media is that I'm criticizing the current administration or elected officials or the Secretary of Defense.
Now, these are public figures that get mentioned by name in my book because they're a part of a story.
But these things that were happening in the services predate the current administration.
That's why last September, after the work of I think Chris Ruffo and the director of OMB, Russ Vought, they brought to the President's attention that this kind of thing was happening in federal agencies across the board, not just the Defense Department.
And so there was an executive order that was issued last September banning race and sex stereotyping in the services.
It brought a big sigh of relief to service members based on my own experience, but that's since changed based on the current administration. And so these ideas precede and exist independent of whatever administration is in charge, but policy sure helps either push or limit the reach of these ideas. You know we had a special on, it's one of the biggest specials
steve bannon
we've ever had on Saturday, the American General's Talk, 124.
124 flag officers signed a letter to Joe Biden about the perils of the nation.
And one of the things they said on the show, the most important thing to them right now is this aspect of critical race theory, cultural Marxism.
For our audience, Colonel, how can people get involved here?
How can they find out more about this?
Bishop on the other day talking about stars. My daughter's part of that, the concerned officers, particularly academy grads, worried about the academies being infiltrated with these poisonous ideas. For our audience, Colonel, how can people get involved here? How can they find out more about this? It's one of the things we have so many veterans in our audience, and particularly we have parents of veterans and parents of active duty service members.
What would you recommend?
This obviously has to be stopped.
So what is your recommendation?
What's your action plan?
What are you telling people to do?
unidentified
Well, you mentioned one of them, Steve, STARS.
This is a nascent group of veterans, retired general officers, as well as other service members and academy grads.
Stand together against racism and radicalism in the services.
They partner with the military services, the service academies.
Their particular focus early on was the Air Force Academy, but they're helping inform the American people, inform military leadership as well.
Just how divisive critical race theory can be, for example.
They're an excellent source.
There's a lot of people signing up and joining and helping with that effort, helping donate funds to help that effort.
That's just one source.
People can do what they want.
Read my book.
It's informative.
I think it'll change your paradigm somewhat and help you understand where some of the impulse that you see manifesting throughout society at the moment is actually rooted.
And I want to mention one thing.
You mentioned these 124 generals.
who came together and signed a letter and have been speaking up.
We have many good, patriotic, country loving American service members, both active duty and retired, who are trying to speak up and organize and take a stand against this bullying that's taking on.
And I want to say one of the most unfortunate aspects of my book and this entire thing, which I couldn't have predicted, nor did I make happen, the Defense Department actually publicized me.
I did more than I've ever publicized myself.
Is that the new service, the Space Force, and its image is being dragged into a controversy in the mud because it's a critical service in my view.
Whether you think so or not, it's a critical service in my view.
And they're trying to do a really good job right now of building an identity and a culture that needs to be properly shaped.
And I have nothing but respect and admiration for the general officers in my chain of command who have spent decades of service to their country.
They ought to be thanked.
And be the recipients of our gratitude, not our ire, even though they made a bad choice firing me, in my view.
But they're great Americans and I think unwittingly we push some of these ideologies.
Unwittingly we do that because either of fear or because we're not necessarily informed about the history of some of these things.
steve bannon
Colonel, we can't go forward as really a country and a great power unless we have the caliber of individual people like you in our military.
I think everybody wants to know, where do we actually stand?
You got the book and you've made the thing, this is my personal belief and not DOD and there's that controversy.
But where do we actually stand with you either challenging or where do we stand the process of Colonel Lohmeyer getting his command back or confronting this being a relief or cause for this?
unidentified
I don't know anything about where the process sits at the moment because I haven't been in communication with anyone in my chain of command.
I know that there's an investigation that's ongoing about whether or not it will be substantiated.
I think that I was politically partisan acting in an official capacity.
I was not.
I point out many, many examples of political partisanship in an official capacity and what that looks like in my book.
And so as they go through all of that and figure out what political partisanship in uniform actually looks like, Uh, I think that, uh, it will be seen pretty clearly that I'm, I'm not politically partisan.
Ask anyone I've ever worked with.
Including the young people in my unit.
If I was going on about political issues in my unit, it might have been clear that I was conservative, but it would also be clear to those that I've served with that I don't really care what their political views were, and I respect everyone interested in unity more than I am in division, and our country's constitution unifies and unites, and critical race theory is antithetical to our values.
And so we need to take a stand against it.
I'll continue to take a stand against it, but I hope that I'm able to do so in uniform.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Real quickly, this Saturday, by the way, we're going to have another deep dive on transhumanism and we're also going to talk about the UFO report that's going to come out in late June that I think could be a game changer.
You as an Air Force pilot, I believe, Colonel Lohmeyer, you have a UFO incident.
Could you briefly explain that to us?
unidentified
I did not have a UFO incident in I have had an interesting UFO experience personally in high school in Tucson, in the mountains.
Maybe I'll have to come back sometime and tell you more about it, but it was my only experience with it.
I was sitting in the foothills of Tucson, Arizona.
steve bannon
Don't give us the punchline, because I want to save that for some other time, but was it near the observatories?
unidentified
I don't know exactly where the observatories are at, so I can't say.
steve bannon
Okay.
Colonel Lohmeyer, one more time, how do people get access to you?
How do people get the book?
unidentified
Yeah, they can get the book through MatthewLohmeyer.com.
There's any number of retailers online that are selling it.
They can get access to me through the website as well.
There's a contact page there on MatthewLohmeyer.com.
steve bannon
Okay, Colonel, thank you very much.
Honored to have you on, and this is something we're going to follow very closely.
I know the audience is incredibly impressed and wants to get involved here, so thank you very much.
unidentified
Steve, thank you.
steve bannon
Yeah, I just want to reiterate that was Colonel Lohmeyer's personal beliefs, right?
That's not obviously the Pentagon's beliefs in the IRS.
I want to bring in now, we've got Boris Epstein.
A couple minutes here.
Boris got big news out of Arizona and Georgia and others.
But Boris, as someone that's been with the President and been one of his supporters for so long, I think this is the difference in seeing Donald Trump.
You know, the key thing about Colonel Lohmeyer, this was happening.
During the Trump administration, this critical race theory, right?
And as soon as it was brought to Donald Trump's attention, remember he signed that executive order.
unidentified
He says, hey, we're going to stop this, right?
steve bannon
But it shows you in the administrative state, right?
I don't want to call it a deep state because it's not deep.
It's up in your grill.
In the administrative state, the things that are going through in our government and what they think, and particularly what they think of the Constitution.
Boris Epstein, we've got to bounce.
What are your thoughts?
unidentified
My thoughts are, you and I have talked about this.
This is the same thing as the administrative state on elections telling Americans, you have no say, sit down, shut up, we've got it, we're handling it.
You and I were just talking about that when I was in the studio about 48 hours ago, 36 hours ago.
The administrative state in this country, both at the federal level and at the state and local levels, always think they know better than the people who are actually elected.
Okay.
actually elected by by the constituents by the American people that's happening in Arizona, the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, that parachute. So they're saying, Well, no, no, we know better. We are, you know, we've got this.
And it's the state senate, which are people who are elected and reelected by the people of Arizona by the MAGA crowd in Arizona, the Republican Party in Arizona, which controls the state senate, they are being disrespected time and time again. Same thing happening in Georgia by Brian.
I can't believe that Berman Jones is standing up.
steve bannon
Take a short commercial break.
We'll be back with Boris about this, uh, the database in Arizona.
Gonna explain it all to you next in The War Room.
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Okay, this Saturday we're going to have a special.
We're going to take three topics.
And we don't chase rabbits here, but we have to get the posse ahead of the curve.
We've talked about a number of these.
We've already had a special.
We're going to take transhumanism, what's happening in these different categories of advanced chip design, robotics, artificial intelligence, biotechnology, gene editing, the convergence of that.
Talk about what exactly is going on.
We're going to get into depth in cryptocurrency to let you understand why cryptocurrency is so important, particularly the big seller for the last couple of days.
They had the cover story, obviously, in the, we were ahead of this in the economists about government coins, about the Bank of China and other banks, central banks, the Federal Reserve, everybody getting involved in this when we get to that.
And also, there's going to be a report at the end of June and, you know, this is not for wingnuts, this UFO thing.
We've got to get back and we're going to talk about details, details, details, details, what is actually happening, what you should be prepared is going to be disclosed, and most importantly, the timing of it.
Remember, there's no conspiracies, but there are no coincidences.
Why in June of 2021 is this being dropped?
We're going to talk all about that for two hours on Saturday in a big special in the War Room.
Okay, I want to go back now to Boris.
You've been there since the very beginning.
I mean, you've been with Trump for years, but you've been on this case of 3 November from the very beginning.
You went out to Arizona.
There's a lot of confusion in the media, the Associated Press and Rachel Maddow.
They're dancing on the graves of the deplorable, saying this is all, they've proved that this is all a bunch of half-baked, half-cocked wingnuts.
They're looking for bamboo.
They're looking for UV lights.
What actually happened on this database?
There was a tweet out today.
You retweeted it, said this is important.
What's the story of this database?
boris epshteyn
Steve, here's the story of the database.
Thanks so much for having me.
Great to be with the MAGA Patriot that are your audience.
Here's the story with the database.
The database was removed.
The database was not where it was supposed to be.
And then the audit team was able to find the database.
But the bottom line is that the database was not in the location where it was supposed to be.
steve bannon
So what is that?
Do we lose Boris?
So tell me what that means.
boris epshteyn
What that means is this, is that this is all pursuant to a subpoena, right?
There was a subpoena issued back in late December.
And it appears that Maricopa County Board of Supervisors and others who had control of this database, which is the results and tabulations database, extremely important, those who have control of it, In some way, moved, removed, deleted, or somehow augmented this database, and it was the audit team, the audit team, that was able, using their tools, to dive in and recover it.
So, this messaging of, oh no, it wasn't really, it wasn't really touched, the audit team just missed it wrong, this is the same as if, you know, during an investigation, One side takes a piece of evidence and tries to wipe it from their computer, their phone, and then the investigators are able to use their tools and recover that information.
That happens quite often, actually.
So that is what appears to be, if anything, that makes the issue more troubling.
Because now you've got the auditors who have to use their tools, their knowledge, to recover information that appears to have been tempered with.
And I can tell you as an attorney, I can tell you from following criminal law and studying various cases very deeply, that that level of tempering with evidence, if that is the case, if that's what happened, that is a big problem.
For those who have control of these machines, who have control of the database, before it went over to the auditors.
Again, this all has to be figured out.
Answers have to be given.
The answers given so far on the 14-page screed from the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, from the Twitter storm, so on and so forth, they are not satisfactory.
And to say, oh, we did nothing wrong because the auditors were able to find that database, well, that is absolute nonsense.
steve bannon
Okay, I just want to make sure, by the way, Sonny Borelli on the great Gateway Pundit, Sonny Borelli's up there with a really great interview, people should look that, but the Senator Sonny Borelli says that, hey, with all the graduations, starting on Monday, we're grinding away again, right?
We're starting this thing again, we're going to grind away.
24.
So people, I just want to make sure that the deplorables know because you're going to get bombarded, bombarded every day about how this is ridiculous.
They didn't know what they were doing.
It's totally unprofessional.
I just want you to reiterate everything that you've seen.
And I know that you're very close to what's going on, on the ground, on the deck plates.
Everything you've seen is not just in the up and up at the highest level of professionalism.
They have found this database thing has been misconstrued by the media.
It's actually a positive.
And we start regrinding on Monday.
And I think, you know, people out there say it's going to take to the end of June.
I actually happen to think it's going to take longer because you're only 18 or 19, 20 percent through the ballots.
But when we recommence on Monday, The grind starts again and you're very happy with what you're seeing out there as far as process and procedure.
boris epshteyn
Couple things, Steve.
First, I agree with you that I expect it to take longer.
And I'm good with that.
We want it to take longer because we're now only about 18, 19, maybe 20% through the recount.
Then comes the re-canvas.
So we expect this to take a nice long time and be in-depth.
The fact that we have this extremely troubling information of all the deficiencies just through the first, let's call it up to 20% is because of how in-depth the recount audit has been going.
We want that to continue.
That's number one.
Number two, this wasn't something that the media misconstrue instead of the database.
They are spinning it, right?
They're mischaracterizing it on purpose.
They're not misunderstanding it, right?
We all know that.
And go deeper here.
As always, signal, not noise.
Why does the media pay so much attention?
Why are they mischaracterizing it?
Because they're freaked out.
They've got the ballot.
They've got the ballot.
Rachel Maddow is losing her mind.
So is Chris Hayes.
So is CNN.
You've got Vernon Jones' best friend, Stacey Abrams.
Of course, it's just a joke there, Vernon.
Stacey Abrams on With Anderson Cooper.
And by the way, Vernon's efforts yesterday in Georgia, absolutely groundbreaking.
Let me tell you that the very tip of the spear, people who are very interested in this, let's put it that way, were extremely enthusiastic about Vernon's efforts in Georgia yesterday, calling for a full forensic audit in Georgia, the same way it's being conducted in Arizona.
unidentified
And even CNN did a headline, which they couldn't really spin.
boris epshteyn
They said, Trump allies calling for an Arizona-type audit in Georgia.
To me, I tweeted that out.
I said, thanks, Vernon!
Great job!
I know Vernon retweeted it, because that is a great thing.
That is a positive.
The dominoes are starting to fall.
The freight trade is coming through across the country of these forensic audits, and the media, the Democrats, the legal community absolutely cannot take it.
steve bannon
This article in CNN is very important and very powerful.
It talked about, after Vernon had the press conference yesterday in Atlanta, to call for the Assembly to be called back and the Senate to issue the same type of proclamation and same sort of backup to get to an official forensic audit, exactly like has happened in Arizona.
They basically said, Advocates of this are now in Georgia, and they talked about future states to come.
So let's talk.
Vernon Jones, by the way, is going to be in studio tonight.
He's going to be here.
He's got an event up here, and we've asked him to come by.
What's happening in Georgia is very important because Dr. Peter Navarro tells you that's the cesspool, right?
You know, Wisconsin's the easiest to prove.
As you said, Boris, with all the problems in Arizona, That we're finding, and it's going to flip to Trump by, you know, Mike Lindell says 80,000, Navarro says a couple of hundred thousand, okay?
I guess they're saying the Maricopa County, but for the whole state it would be unbelievable.
But, that as bad as Pennsylvania is, and Michigan, and Wisconsin, all this, that Georgia is the cesspool, and that's why Vernon has gone for it.
What are you hearing, because we know you've got the inside baseball, what are you hearing about other states.
Are there rumblings in these other states that what Arizona is showing people has to be taken and taken to these other conflicted states?
boris epshteyn
Absolutely.
As we've talked about, Georgia appears to be in line, if not next, based on the great efforts of Vernon Jones.
He'll be with you later today.
I'm hearing rumblings out of Pennsylvania.
Of course, Michigan, we know what's been going on there in Antrim County.
And Michigan, broader.
Wisconsin, very easy.
Wisconsin, Just Milwaukee, Dane County.
Dane is where Madison, Wisconsin is.
We know from the audit that was already done in just those two counties that there were over 200,000 unlawful ballots there.
And it's an election which was decided by 20,000.
And the only reason that that did not get overturned was because a RINO judge used a technicality, used latches.
Say that this should have been somehow argued before the election results came out.
Use that as an excuse to not do the right thing and overturn the election in Wisconsin.
So look at all these states.
We've got Arizona, now Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Windom, New Hampshire, so on and it goes from there.
The efforts by Perkins Schooley, Markkulaus, the evil genius, the Democrats, they're widespread.
They're not just the states which are in the middle, the battleground states.
New York's got to be looked at.
California's got to be looked at.
unidentified
We are taking this freight train of election integrity all across the country.
boris epshteyn
Hear me loud and clear.
steve bannon
Wow.
Wow.
Okay, Boris.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
That's some breaking news right there.
It's not going to stop just at the battleground states.
I tell you, Montana, you've got to look at Montana, right?
boris epshteyn
You gotta look at the Congressional races, you gotta look at the Senate races, right?
You know what happened with Claudia Tenney in New York?
Just because the state has been going blue in the presidential doesn't mean that they're not cheating.
It actually makes it more likely that they're cheating in the down-ballot races, the Congressional races, the Senate races.
And by the way, that is another issue.
Gotta look at the Senate race in Arizona.
steve bannon
Arizona, Kelly, I'm telling you, it's in question right now whether Kelly, and this is the State Senate that they're saying we're getting against.
I think it's a huge question.
Is Kelly really the Senator or not?
I think in Georgia.
I think they won on November 3rd.
It's got to be gotten to the bottom.
If I was Mitch McConnell, I'd stop all work in the Senate right now.
You've got to take your time out until this thing gets worked out.
This is all about November 3rd, and it's going to take as long as it takes.
It's going to take as long as it takes.
Boris, give people your social media right now so they can get up to speed.
boris epshteyn
I'm getting updates.
I'm tweeting them out.
I'm putting them on the gram.
unidentified
Always coming in hot.
boris epshteyn
Look at Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, so on and so forth.
God bless.
H-T-E-Y-N on the gram, always coming in hot.
Add Boris if you're on Twitter.
All eyes on Arizona, but the train goes from there.
Look at Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, so on and so forth.
God bless, stay strong.
steve bannon
Okay, this is, we're gonna have Vernon Jones in today into the war room to talk about Georgia.
Look, all of these are going to, you've got to put your shoulder to the wheel to make the establishment work on this.
We also want to note, talk a little bit more about this when we come back.
Raheem Kassam, my co-host, is en route out to Arizona right now.
He's going to do some reporting out there for the next couple days.
There's a big rally out there tomorrow afternoon with the notorious MTG, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz are taking their There are America First rallies out there.
They're going to be out in Arizona.
We're going to actually do a live report tomorrow evening from there.
But Raheem's out there right now.
And I've got to tell you so much, the Patriots out there are going to be very proud.
The mainstream media, they're in meltdown.
That's where they're spinning this thing any which way they can.
But guess what?
On Monday, the grind starts again.
And of course, Kelly Ward I think is saying it's going to end by the end of June.
I'm not so sure about that.
I think it could take a while.
But listen, remember what Navarro says.
It's the canvas, not the count.
The canvas is going to shock people.
DOJ already knows that.
That's where they threaten criminal charges against folks.
Okay, short commercial break.
We're back in the War Room in just a moment.
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steve bannon
Okay, that's taking place all over the country.
That one right there is Scottsdale, Arizona.
We're going to bring in Bethann Knatt, a mom who is concerned and now engaged.
Bethann, what did we just see there?
It looked like a pretty wild school board meeting.
Tell us what went on and what happened.
unidentified
Well, first, thanks so much for having me on.
It's important to get these moms' voices out there.
You know, that meeting was powerful.
We had a great show of parents that are equally as concerned as I am, and we need to really start getting loud and telling the school boards that they do not have the power over us as parents, and they certainly don't have the power over our children.
And at the beginning of the meeting, we were informed that we would all, in the audience there, would need to put masks on.
And we did not.
We chose not to.
It is our choice, and the school board decided that because they could not force us to put our masks on, they ended the meeting.
So we wanted to simply refresh their memory of what happened in Vail, Arizona, where the school board left, and they voted right then and there for new school board members.
Unfortunately, that didn't happen for us, but it definitely put them on notice, I think, which is what we wanted to have happen.
steve bannon
I thought Arizona, I thought Governor Ducey had already signed a statewide mandate that you didn't have to wear a mask.
Am I incorrect on that?
unidentified
No, you're absolutely correct on that.
In fact, the executive order was lifted and unfortunately what happened through that process was he left it up to the individual schools and school districts to then make their decisions.
So just as we've seen across the country with governors choosing what they're going to do individually, School districts here in Arizona have done the same thing.
We have plenty of school districts that are not participating in mask mandates.
They've left it optional to the parents and the children.
And then we have other school districts, such as Scottsdale, that is continuing to enforce the mask mandates.
steve bannon
How did they... Well, first off, how did they walk out of a meeting?
This is not about school.
You're having a meeting just because the parents would not wear masks?
That's why they called the meeting off and then exited the facility?
unidentified
Yeah, that's correct.
Later, we found out that we were referred to as the angry mob of parents, which is the polite term that they often like to use with parents that are simply standing up for our children's rights.
But they went on kind of ad nauseum for a few minutes just talking about how it was disrespectful, and we were violating the rules of that particular campus building, and that if we could not follow the rules, then they were going to have to end the meeting.
And they voted in a five to zero vote to go ahead and end the meeting.
And we told them that we would leave after they left.
And we all waited in the room to make sure that they did not reconvene the meeting.
And we waited and we watched them all walk out.
steve bannon
Okay, so the bid and the ask, I mean, you've still got a school board that's intact, and they still have a mandate for children to wear a mask.
And you've got parents that are very concerned and say that's not going to happen.
So what happens next?
unidentified
So a couple of things, they will have to have a another school board meeting, because on the agenda, there were important things as far as financial decisions that need to be made for the upcoming school year.
So they are required to post that next meeting date within 24 hours.
We're under the assumption that they will try to pull something like a Wednesday at one o'clock when they think that the majority of parents are either at work or home doing something else, and they cannot show up.
And that's just not the case, we will be there probably stronger than we were before.
And then our next step is, unfortunately, they are going to lose a lot of children from that district if they choose to enforce these things next school year.
You know, collectively as parents, we've had conversations both amongst ourselves and we've also had those really challenging conversations with our children about, I'm sorry, you cannot go to this school next year if they're going to enforce that.
We will put you in a charter school.
We will put you in a private school.
We will move you to a district that is not enforcing these rules.
And we are standing by that.
We are committed to making sure that these districts and these school boards understand the ramifications of this, which will be teachers laid off.
They will lose funding.
You know, it's a cascade effect.
And the winners in all of it, which is the great thing, will be our kids, because they will be at a school that supports not only parental rights, but the children's rights.
steve bannon
Okay, we're jammed for time.
I've got two things.
What argument did they make that why the kids have to wear the mask?
When they sit there, what's in like in a minute?
What do they say?
Why do they say that children have to wear masks this coming year?
unidentified
There has not been a decision made and I think that that's what we're really working hard to get to is we don't want to be caught in a situation where a week before next school year we're told that masks are going to be enforced and then we haven't had the opportunity to work on getting our kids in another school.
So we're pressing to make sure that they make a steadfast decision so that parents can know what's going to be happening for the next school year.
And we didn't even get to that point of the meeting.
steve bannon
Have they talked about vaccines yet?
What's the situation of vaccines?
unidentified
No, but that's another incredibly hot topic.
And we are pressing on that as well.
Vaccines are You know, they're currently not mandated here in Arizona.
We still have our medical exemptions as well as our religious exemptions, which we will continue to fight for.
But the parents that are, you know, on the same team as the no mask mandates, we don't want a vaccine mandate.
It is absolutely imperative that we remain the right to choose what is best for our children.
Nobody knows our children better than we do, and we need to maintain that.
steve bannon
OK, real quickly, are you going to try to the parents going to try to recall the school board?
Is there a process to do that?
unidentified
So there are things already in the works.
We're getting petitions going.
We're getting new people stepping forward that want to be on the school board.
So yes, all of these wheels are turning and we are working, you know, together collectively as a group of parents to get things done.
steve bannon
Bethann, how can people get more access to you and to keep up to speed on what's happening out there?
unidentified
So there are a lot of Facebook groups.
You can connect with me on my Instagram.
It's miss.bethann.marie on Instagram.
You can also connect with us on Facebook.
There is a Scottsdale Unified School District Facebook group as well that you can get on and we'll all stay connected and there's power in numbers.
So join us and stand up for our kids.
steve bannon
Power in numbers.
Beth Ann Natt from out in Scottsdale, Arizona.
Thank you, ma'am, for joining us in the War Room.
Thank you so much.
The moms in America are stepping up today in the War Room this afternoon.
We're going to have Vernon Jones.
The audit is going to continue in Georgia.
Going to go there next this afternoon at 5 o'clock, plus other breaking news.
We'll see you again at 5 in the War Room.
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