May 20, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| So you don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| If you are fighting the American nation-state, if you are fighting the values and virtues that make this country great, the conservative movement should be about nothing if not your power, and if necessary, We cannot let the people who are driving this country into the ground continue to benefit from special bribes, from tax breaks, from subsidies, and from liability protections. | ||
| That is the simple rule that we should follow. | ||
| $120 billion of Harvard University endowment is ammunition for our enemies. | ||
| And we can't let the enemy have that much ammunition or we're going to lose. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| This principle should guide all of our policy response. | ||
| If you cannot go after the pocketbook of these people, cannot make them pay, then you are accepting defeat. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| We're never going to beat them unless we go after them. | ||
| A seminal speech yesterday, we're going to get into that. | ||
| It's Thursday, 20 May, Year of Our Lord 2021, with what, over 54 million, or close to 54 million downloads on the podcast. | ||
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| Okay, we've got a packed show today. | ||
| We've got Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer who's going to join us a little later to talk about Herbert Marcuse and the Frankfurt Group, critical race theory, and the cultural Marxist revolution they're trying to do inside of our military. | ||
| We have Colonel, he was just relieved, for cause actually, on Friday. | ||
| One of the hottest runners in the entire United States Air Force, Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer, will join us for a quite in-depth interview about his life, his mission, and what he sees as the problem inside the United States military. | ||
| Cover the Financial Times today, Battleship Diplomacy talks about the new aircraft carrier, First aircraft carrier in what two generations by the British is now en route to guess where? | ||
| The South China Sea and it's also an incident in the South China Sea. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party has voiced displeasure and say that a American destroyer has gone into their territorial borders. | ||
| We're all going to get into that in a second. | ||
| I want to turn first to Yesterday at the Center for American Way of Life of the Claremont Institute, Arthur Millick and the team over there just doing an amazing job sponsored a speech by one J.D. | ||
| Vance. | ||
| You may know J.D. | ||
| as the author of Hillbilly. | ||
| L.G.' 's blockbuster bestseller, also an Academy Award nominated film. | ||
| I want to bring in JD. | ||
| JD, I want to just focus on the speech at first. | ||
| I don't think I've seen any, you know, we pride ourselves here in the war room of being the center of gravity of the populist nationalist wing. | ||
| I'd say populist, nationalist, traditionalist wing of the Republican Party or the Trump movement. | ||
| But that speech yesterday, I don't think any individual, and we always give hat tips. | ||
| You know, I had Josh Rawlin here a couple weeks ago. | ||
| We've got a lot of people there stepping up and leaning more to this populist. | ||
| In a intellectual way, you actually laid out the theory of the case. | ||
| For the Rachel Maddow crew and Morning Joe and all the producers out there that watch the show and pull things from the show, and they keep saying, oh, this is all bereft, this just all follows Trump, it's bereft, no ideas, no ideas at all, no intellectual firepower in back of it. | ||
| JD, walk us through the theory of the case in your speech, and particularly that opening What we had is a cold open because that was a shot across the bow of the Wall Street and global corporatist interest that has infected not just the Republican Party but the American way of life. | ||
| So walk us through what your theory of the case is as you laid out in your speech yesterday over near the Pentagon at the Claremont Institute. | ||
| Yeah, well thanks for having me Steve. | ||
| Good to talk with you. | ||
| We talk a lot in the American conservative movement, and we're right to talk about this, that the elites of this country are fundamentally global. | ||
| They're not national. | ||
| They don't care about the values that made the country great. | ||
| They care more about people who live overseas than they do about the people who live in this country. | ||
| They are in some cases actively at war with American history because they know that that makes us weaker. | ||
| It detaches us from our past that allows them to control us. | ||
| But what we often miss is that their most powerful weapon, Is the fact that they're getting rich even as they engage in culture war against this country. | ||
| They're getting rich off of America even as they try to destroy its institutions and to try to destroy, frankly, the nation and the people who live in it. | ||
| And my argument yesterday was that it's not enough for us to just fight back culturally. | ||
| We can't just make arguments anymore. | ||
| We can't just haul the CEO of Google, Facebook, Amazon before a congressional hearing and complain and whine at them. | ||
| We've got to be willing to use real power under our constitutional republic to fight back against these people. | ||
| And the way that you do that is fundamentally you've got to hit them in the pocketbook. | ||
| Now these people again are getting rich off of America. | ||
| They are plundering the greatest country in the world, the country built by generations of Americans for American people. | ||
| And what's happened is that every time that we try to fight back, we always get held up on this idea that we should do anything with them. | ||
| We should do anything to them. | ||
| They benefit from special tax privileges. | ||
| They benefit from liability protections. | ||
| They benefit in a number of ways that people don't even appreciate from the legal protections of this country. | ||
| Now we give them those protections. | ||
| Under the theory that they're going to create good jobs and they're going to be good for the American people. | ||
| But if they're not doing that, if they're shipping our jobs overseas, if they're trying to destroy the cultural foundations of this country, we should make them feel it. | ||
| We should really go after them where it hurts, which is the wallet. | ||
| I want to go back to your life and your lived experience with your family and then enlisting in the Marine Corps and then going to an Ivy League school. | ||
| Walk us through, how is that theory of the case personified in the state you saw, your family, and the country you saw? | ||
| How is this played through in your life? | ||
| Yeah, you know, so my grandparents immigrated from southeastern Kentucky coal country, and I say immigrated because going from southeastern Kentucky coal country to a midwestern factory in southern Ohio really was a totally different way of life for them. | ||
| And you know, they had real prosperity. | ||
| They struggled in certain ways, but they had real middle class, maybe call it lower middle class prosperity because they lived in a country where the elites still cared about the people and they had access to really good jobs. | ||
| That was the story of their life. | ||
| By the time that I came around The town that I'd grown up in had really started to fall apart. | ||
| Drugs had moved in. | ||
| Crime had moved in. | ||
| My family was pretty traumatic. | ||
| My dad wasn't really in the picture until later in my life. | ||
| My mom wasn't always able to take care of me because of opioid addiction. | ||
| So my grandparents really stepped in and made sure that I had a good chance at life. | ||
| And on the one hand, my story is the story of the American Dream. | ||
| I enlisted in the Marine Corps in 2003. | ||
| I went to Ohio State from there. | ||
| I went to Yale Law School from there. | ||
| I've worked in Silicon Valley, so I've seen the inside of the technology industry very much up close. | ||
| But on the other hand, I recognize that stories like mine are not as common as they should be. | ||
| In this country, no matter where you come from, no matter who your parents are, you should be able to have a shot at the life that you want. | ||
| And increasingly, because of policy decisions, because of the cultural war from the elite Americans against normal Americans, it's increasingly hard to just live a good life in your country. | ||
| And of course, you see, that's not just about jobs. | ||
| Jobs is an important part of it. | ||
| But part of living a dignified life in your own country is having your opinions respected, being able to speak your mind without censorship, knowing that you can teach your children to honor the same heroes that you were taught to honor as a kid without them being called evil white supremacists. | ||
| These things all matter if you want to live a dignified life in your own country. | ||
| And unfortunately, that's been taken away from a lot of people. | ||
| Why did you enlist in the Marine Corps? | ||
| You know, I care about the country. | ||
| You know, I enlisted, I believe, in April of 2003. | ||
| We'd invaded Iraq in March of 2003. | ||
| I'd love to give myself credit and say I knew that Iraq was going to be a disaster, but I was a normal patriotic American kid. | ||
| You know, my grandma, I called her Mamaw. | ||
| She had six kids. | ||
| Sorry, six grandkids, three of us enlisted in the Marine Corps right out of high school. | ||
| Another kid on my block on McKinley Street in Middletown, Ohio, he also enlisted in the Marine Corps. | ||
| He was the only other kid to graduate high school the same year as me. | ||
| So we just grew up in a patriotic community where it was expected, especially in a time of war, that you were going to go off and fight for your country. | ||
| I sort of was lucky. | ||
| I never saw any real combat. | ||
| Of course, that annoyed me when I was 19 years old. | ||
| I really wanted to get in a fight, but now looking back on it, I actually feel, of course, I got lucky. | ||
| But, you know, it was just something you were expected to do. | ||
| It wasn't something I thought a whole lot about. | ||
| I was excited to get out of my hometown, see the world a little bit. | ||
| I knew that it would give me some money to pay for education and all that stuff, but it was really the sense that you owe this country something because the country is giving something to you. | ||
| And that sense of shared obligation and duty is just something that animates a lot of normal Americans who see this country as their own. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| When you then got to an Ivy League institution and you moved up through your own hard work and intellectual drive, is that when you first noticed that there's this huge gap culturally between what the elites think and what they're trained and how they're trained and what basic working class Americans that are intensely patriotic and very American first in places like Ohio and what they believe and how they're raised? | ||
| Yeah, that was the first real taste of it that I got. | ||
| You know, there was this funny story, I think I tell in the book, but maybe not, where I told this young woman that I was in a small group discussion with, you know, it came up that I had served in the military and she was just so shocked. | ||
| And she said, you were in the Marine Corps? | ||
| That's so surprising to me. | ||
| You know, you're just so nice. | ||
| And of course, the implication is that if you serve in the Marine Corps, you must be a total barbarian of some type. | ||
| You know, funnily, hilariously, a friend of mine who heard about that story later said, you know, if you had, if you had known better, you would have called that a microaggression. | ||
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Because that's, that's what the elites think of those little, those little insults. | |
| But, you know, I definitely recognize like, look, I was a different kind of person. | ||
| A lot of people that I knew in my personal life had served in the military. | ||
| Very few people I think in Yale Law School knew somebody very personally in their own family who had served in the military. | ||
| Obviously they came from more wealth and privileges than they came from different geographies. | ||
| We got it. | ||
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We got it. | |
| Almost. | ||
| Let's reboot him. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
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Let's reboot him. | |
| I don't want to miss this. | ||
| That's J.D. | ||
| Vance. | ||
| The speech yesterday was incredibly important, and we're going to go back through it when he gets here. | ||
| He actually went against, I think, what would be considered Republican or conservative orthodoxy. | ||
| He really threw down hard on the elites of this country, particularly the financial and corporate elites, and really went to the heart of it. | ||
| That you can't just sit there and have, you know, cultural chit-chat anymore, right? | ||
| You just can't say, oh, you should be doing this. | ||
| No. | ||
| You've got to go to the heart of the problem. | ||
| And the heart of the problem, and this is what President Trump realized in 2016, that Hillary Clinton was the front For an elite that is comfortable with the managed decline of the United States of America, and that Make America Great Again, working class and middle class people do not want to see this country decline. | ||
| In fact, they will do anything and follow a leader that will reverse that decline. | ||
| Now, the question has gotten to be, it's gotten obviously with this issue on November 3rd that we're still trying to get to the bottom to, Bottom of that this is now exacerbated this because this is no longer just about managed decline right now and that's why Colonel Lohmeyer and JD Vance and these others are kind of inextricably linked. | ||
| You see a cultural revolution taking place. | ||
| By the policies of the Biden administration, you know, Joe Biden sits there and wants to be, you know, the nice guy, and he's the anti-Trump as being a nice guy, and all that. | ||
| The reality is, the reality is that the radical policies you see in the military, you're seeing in the school system, and this is why people are fighting back, this is why you have these mothers showing up at the school boards, this is why you have people showing up as precinct committeemen. | ||
| Okay, we take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're gonna get J.D. | ||
| Vance rebooted and get on top of this. | ||
| We'll take a short break. | ||
| We'll be back with J.D. | ||
| Vance in The War Room in just a second. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| I think we've figured out our technical problem. | ||
| Also, J.D. | ||
| Vance is actually out in Ohio today in one of the remote areas for an event today. | ||
| I want to thank the Center for American Way of Life of the Claremont Institute, Arthur Millick and the team there. | ||
| Yesterday they sponsored a speech by J.D. | ||
| J.D., this speech goes against so much has been Republican orthodoxy. | ||
| You know, we had Tal Bachman on yesterday, the son of the I guess the leader of Bachman Turner, overdriven musician, he wrote a magnificent piece in American Greatness and he's a musician, not a political analyst, that kind of laid out the history of the Republican Party since Ronald Reagan and how the elites have kind of taken it and shipped jobs overseas, had a foreign policy that didn't work. | ||
| When you think this through, you actually, this was a war cry yesterday. | ||
| This was a statement to say, look, we just can't sit back. | ||
| We've got to go on the offense about this. | ||
| It so cuts against the grain of Republican orthodoxy. | ||
| Walk us through how did this evolve in you? | ||
| And what are you actually asking people to do? | ||
| This is probably one of the most populous national speeches by any major figure in this movement ever. | ||
| Well, what I'm trying to do, Steve, I think is just to get us to accept where we are in the world. | ||
| And I, you know, I'm a capitalist. | ||
| I believe in markets and I believe that they can create great wealth and prosperity for our people. | ||
| But markets are fundamentally formed by national institutions and international institutions. | ||
| Look, what I'm saying is the business elite has turned against this country. | ||
| You saw it in Georgia when they took a very moderate voter ID bill, Koch, Delta, MLB, hammer those guys. | ||
| You see it in a number of places where corporate America has gone against fundamental, basic, conservative, non-controversial principles. | ||
| And in that world, we can't keep pretending that corporations are our friends and we can't keep giving special handouts to them. | ||
| We give these handouts to companies because they're in the interest of the American nation. | ||
| If these companies are fighting the interests of the American people, We've got to stop treating them with special kid gloves. | ||
| We've got to go after them. | ||
| So I absolutely think we need to rethink a lot of traditional orthodoxy that existed in the Republican Party. | ||
| But I don't think it means we need to abandon our commitments to markets and the idea that we can create great wealth and prosperity through the market system. | ||
| It just means we need to stop treating these corporations who hate America as if they're on our side. | ||
| They're just not anymore. | ||
| If you had to lay out the J.D. | ||
| Vance plan and the first two or three major bullets that you would say, hey, this is what I would do, what would that be to cut to the center of this problem? | ||
| What would you do? | ||
| What would you recommend? | ||
| Yes, so the first thing that I do is say we have to distinguish between national corporations and international corporations. | ||
| There are great American businesses, big, medium, small, that are creating good American jobs, that are staying out of our political process. | ||
| They're just trying to make a product, make a little bit of money, employ people in the process, and then there are these international firms that are more invested in the Communist Party in China, that are more invested in Europe, that don't care about American people. | ||
| We should treat those national firms, we should give them lower taxes, we should give them lower regulations, we should do something different with the international firms that are actively fighting the country. | ||
| That's very easy, that's just a basic principle in how we approach The law of how we regulate and tax these corporations. | ||
| The other thing I'd say is we've been giving way too much. | ||
| Yeah, and just have him call in by phone. | ||
| It's not going to happen again. | ||
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| is actually in, I think, Southeast Ohio for an event. | ||
| It's one of the problems with the country. | ||
| We don't have the broadband out there. | ||
| The people out in the rural districts don't get the internet coverage, so it's very tough to do Skype and do the way we cut in. | ||
| So let's just go ahead and let's just reboot that. | ||
| Here's the interesting thing about J.D. | ||
| Vance. | ||
| You've seen the first time, he's very traditionalist, he talks about the family, he's got a lot of problems with a lot of these proposals for universal childcare. | ||
| And he says, you know, we've got to get the economics right. | ||
| You have to get the economics right in order to have the traditional families, in order to have the ability to actually, you know, have a couple of kids and be able to raise them. | ||
| And he ties together one of the things that we What I try to hammer on all the time is that the economics and your manufacturing policy and your capital markets policy and all that is inextricably linked to the ability to have a traditional family, to actually support families with wages. | ||
| One of the things he's talked about here is we have to start to think about these companies that are here in the United States and headquartered in the United States. | ||
| They have all the benefits of the United States. | ||
| have all the, it's the reason our capital markets flourish so much, the reason we have such liquidity in our capital markets. Everybody wants to invest in bonds in this country, everybody wants to invest in stocks in this country, through you know either the New York Stock Exchange or or Nasdaq or the bond market all that and one of the reasons the capital markets are so robust is that you have this underpinning of a civic society that supports that and one of the things I think JD makes is that these companies don't think of themselves as American companies anymore. | ||
| They think of themselves as global companies, right? | ||
| And so they want to have unlimited competition for labor against American workers. | ||
| They want to be able to move the manufacturing all over the world to chase for the absolute lowest wages, right? | ||
| And in the Republican orthodoxy, and particularly, you know, I don't want to upset our libertarian friends, That's all fine, that's kind of the Koch model, right? | ||
| But that may be nice in theory, it just doesn't work in practice. | ||
| And so you have these areas, particularly the de-industrialization of this country. | ||
| And this is what Tao, this is what Tao was trying to make the, what he was trying to do yesterday. | ||
| He was trying to, he was trying to, um, he was making the case that ever since kind of president Reagan, when he got to the bushes, you've had this kind of globalist, you know, this globalist mentality, uh, and it's infected our foreign policy has affected our national security policy. | ||
| It's infected our economic policy and it's led to really the destruction of the working class in this country. | ||
| This is why Donald Trump was elected president 2016. | ||
| Remember when he started in 14 doing this, he was laughed at and ridiculed. | ||
| Remember when he came down the elevator was June 16th of 2015. | ||
| You know, he was ridiculed. | ||
| I think he was at the top of the escalator. | ||
| Excuse me, the escalator. | ||
| At the top of the escalator, I think he was in 7th place. | ||
| That night, when they did a flash poll, he was in 1st place. | ||
| I don't think he ever, he was never, never, he was really never close since then. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And what he talked about was not just immigration. | ||
| He talked about economic policy. | ||
| Let's get J. Do we have J.D. | ||
| on the phone? | ||
| Yeah, let's do this. | ||
| So, J.D., go back to the heart of it. | ||
| We got a better connection now, we hope. | ||
| Go back to the heart of it. | ||
| This is against Republican orthodoxy, classic orthodoxy. | ||
| But why do you think it's the right thing to do? | ||
| And what are the things that you would start with first to make sure they could effectuate the J.D. | ||
| Vance plan? | ||
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Yeah, I think first you gotta punish the companies that are shipping jobs overseas and rewarding the companies that are invested in their own country. | |
| We had this model where we said, well, if you can get a Chinese slave to build something for $2 a day, that's fine, even if an American loses their job, because we'll get cheaper products. | ||
| But that's not good. | ||
| That's not a good bill for the American worker. | ||
| You see a lot of communities decimated when there's jobs moving overseas. | ||
| The other thing we gotta do is prioritize the real economy, Steve. | ||
| The people who work in energy. | ||
| The people who work with their hands. | ||
| The people who are building things. | ||
| Shipping goods from one place to another. | ||
| Making goods. | ||
| Our economy over-regulates and over-taxes that part of our system. | ||
| And it under-regulates and under-taxes the digital part of our system. | ||
| So the digital economy, the Silicon Valley economy, has gotten rich off of this. | ||
| Of course, they've then used all that economic power to censor conservatives in the meantime. | ||
| So I think that's where I'd start and say, look, we've got to focus on the real economy, and we've got to focus on national companies that are invested in American workers, and a lot of our policy ideas are going to flow from those two principles. | ||
| Let me ask you, Ohio, which is one of the great manufacturing centers of our country, and particularly the rise of us as a great industrial power, how do you bring, if you were in a position of authority, how would J.D. | ||
| Vance bring fourth industrial revolution manufacturing jobs back to a place like Ohio? | ||
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Well, I think the first thing we have to focus on is energy. | |
| People always think of energy as the price of the pump. | ||
| That's obviously very important, the price you're paying for your electricity bills. | ||
| But the biggest driver of manufacturing is cheap energy. | ||
| About half of our energy capacity in this country goes into manufacturing. | ||
| If you have Green New Deal policies coming out of the Biden administration and you make energy more expensive, you're going to put us at a bigger disadvantage to China. | ||
| So you've got to get cheap energy. | ||
| And of course, I think you've got to penalize the people who are shipping jobs overseas. | ||
| You've got to put tariffs on goods that are coming back into the country. | ||
| You've got to punish the companies that are more invested in Chinese workers. | ||
| There are a lot of things you can do, but it's fundamentally just an economic equation. | ||
| If it's more expensive for people to make things in China than it is in the United States, they're going to make them in the United States. | ||
| The final point I'll make about this, Steve, is you talk to Ohio manufacturers who are deeply patriotic, and they just want a little bit of help. | ||
| They don't want to buy crap from the Chinese. | ||
| They're trying desperately. | ||
| They're spending more money. | ||
| They're taking hits in their wallets. | ||
| So they don't have to send money to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Why doesn't our government make it easier for them to buy American instead of harder to buy American? | ||
| It's just a simple common sense principle. | ||
| We ought to care about our own people and our own workers. | ||
| Do you see a mismatch? | ||
| The Republican Party is becoming much more of a workers party, much more populist. | ||
| But do you see a disconnect with the donor class and the donor base of the Republican Party? | ||
| And if you get out of line with that, how are you going to remain competitive when you can't match dollar for dollar with the Democrats? | ||
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You know, it's a tough challenge. | |
| I will say that some of the donors in our party are actually very committed to a patriotic vision of an American future. | ||
| But you are right that a lot of donors are not happy about this. | ||
| They love their cheap consumer goods. | ||
| They love their cheap labor via more immigration and Chinese workers. | ||
| Um, so I think that fundamentally those people are just going to go more and more to the Democratic Party. | ||
| The working people are going to come more to our side. | ||
| And I'm not worried about, you know, matching them dollar for dollar, because what we're starting to see in the Republican Party, you certainly saw this with President Trump in 2020, is working people are getting involved in political donating, right? | ||
| They can't write million dollar checks. | ||
| But if you can get 100 million patriotic American workers to contribute a few dollars to a campaign here and there, you've got the economic power and politics that you need. | ||
| And that's where our base is going to be. | ||
| Maybe the Democrats will be a little bit better funded, but if we've got enough money and the right ideas, I think we're still going to win. | ||
| J.D., if you wouldn't mind hanging on for a couple minutes, we want to take a quick break and bring you back for a few minutes to the other side. | ||
| A lot of people in the live chat are big fans, and so we want to make sure we get a couple more questions in. | ||
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J.D. | |
| Vance calling in from Ohio. | ||
| He's out there for an event today. | ||
| We're going to put his speech up. | ||
| Claremont Institute's Institute for the American Way of Life, Arthur Millick and the team over there. | ||
| We're going to put J.D.' 's entire speech up so that you can not just think about it, listen to it, watch it, but also share it. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back in the War Room. | ||
| Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer will also join us in this hour. | ||
| All next in the War Room. | ||
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| OK, we want to thank J.D. | ||
| Vance. | ||
| He's sticking around. | ||
| I want to say in the live chat now and all the different platforms we've got, we've put J.D.' 's speech yesterday. | ||
| Everybody should take time today or very soon to watch the entire speech to think about it. | ||
| I want you to share it with your colleagues and I want you to argue about it. | ||
| This is the direction, this is the intellectual direction of this revolution, okay? | ||
| This is the next stage. | ||
| JD, as you know, our audience, the reason this show is so powerful is not us. | ||
| It's because we have the activist advocate audience, whether it's at school boards or precinct committee men or all over the country. | ||
| They're most focused on the Wuhan lab and on what happened on 3 November. | ||
| Elise Stefanik, when she ran for conference chair, came out on this show To start her campaign and it was very adamant that we got to get to the bottom of the 3rd of November and exactly what happened. | ||
| Where do you stand on that? | ||
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Yeah, I think we've got to investigate as much as possible. | |
| I believe Sunshine is the best disinfectant and we're going to learn a lot about what happened. | ||
| But, you know, I think at a basic level, we already know mostly what happened. | ||
| You know, we know that they changed the rules in Pennsylvania on which type of ballots would count. | ||
| We know they did that unconstitutionally against Against the demands of the Pennsylvania Constitution. | ||
| And I, you know, I've talked to a lot of people about this and what they consistently tell me is that it's very hard to secure an election after it's already happened. | ||
| What you've got to do is make sure you've got the proper safeguards in place before it happens. | ||
| And so there are a few obvious things that we need to do. | ||
| We need to have mandatory voter ID for voting. | ||
| And I think that the biggest issue, Steve, is we've got to stop this mail-in voting bonanza that you've seen. | ||
| I was with Nigel Farage just recently and he said, look, even the French have recognized that mail-in balloting is just a terrible approach to this whole problem. | ||
| It just makes it a lot easier for the wrong things to happen, and I'd be a huge fan And maybe this is even a compromise you can make with the Democrats to say, look, if we just have a single election day for each election, obviously let the troops and other folks vote absentee, but a single day for most people, make it a national holiday. | ||
| That way everybody votes on the same day with the same information. | ||
| It's much, much harder to cheat. | ||
| It's much easier to vote if you should vote, harder to vote if you shouldn't vote. | ||
| If you did that, would you also make it civic duty, you get the high school kids, whatever, but you get rid of the machines, and I'm not trying to single out Dominion or any of these different companies, but just get rid of all the machines and do a hand count also, just hand count the ballots like we used to for decades and decades and decades? | ||
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Yeah, I think it's a good idea, if for no other reason than people just don't like having their ballots counted by machines. | |
| You know, I was talking to a friend of mine, And just to be clear, he does not think any funny business happened on November 3rd, but he said those machines, whoever makes them, make our entire system incredibly sensitive to attacks. | ||
| If you have people who don't think any funny business happened, who think that those machines are a problem, let's just get them out of there. | ||
| Let's count these things by hand. | ||
| Look, there's a lot of controversy about this commission. | ||
| A lot of people who I respect are saying, hey, you can't have it, you shouldn't have it. | ||
| And I'm not talking McCarthy, I'm talking people like Dinesh D'Souza and other guys I think very highly of. | ||
| But you've got the Darren Beatties and the Peter Navarro, Steve Cortez, Steve Bannon said, hey, bring it, because it gets us a platform to get to the bottom of 3 November. | ||
| If they say it's the big lie causes, then let's go back and look state by state at the receipts. | ||
| If you were in the United States Senate, Where would you be on this issue of the vote about the 1-6 Commission? | ||
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Yeah, I'd be supportive so long as, and this is a big if, if we had guarantees that we would get the right people on our side. | |
| My understanding is you're going to get five Republicans, you're going to get five Democrats. | ||
| I mean, look, if you get five Republicans on that commission, it's going to be a disaster, Steve. | ||
| Five establishment Republicans. | ||
| If you get you, Darren Beattie, Julie Kelly on that commission, it could actually be the best thing for the conservative movement to figure out what's going on, what happened with The election, most importantly, what happened on January 6th, I think it would allow us to push back against the idea, which of course has been repeated, the big lie in the mainstream media that there are these sort of marauding hordes, hundreds of thousands of Trump voters that did this big insurrection. | ||
| But of course, we've realized that was massively overstated by the press. | ||
| I think that if you had the right people, that would be a great forum for us to just have this debate out in the open on equal footing, because the media is never going to give us equal footing unless it's through something like this. | ||
| So I can imagine supporting it. | ||
| I also, the thing I worry about, this is sort of where maybe I'd push in the other direction from you, Steve, is if you set up this commission and you get five establishment folks who just want to, you know, who just want to move on and want to make this about, uh, who actually believe the big lie that this was a big insurrection, It could be a disaster for us. | ||
| I mean a real disaster for us. | ||
| You've got to do it the right way. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| I know that you always think that the fighting spirit is one of the key attributes and you're a big believer in Churchill's courage is the most important of all the virtues because it's upon courage that everything rests. | ||
| There's a lot of speculation about your future. | ||
| I think I saw in the Wall Street Journal you won the investor group into rumble. | ||
| You've got a venture capital firm. | ||
| You're obviously a public intellectual. | ||
| What's the future of J.D. | ||
| Vance? | ||
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Yeah, I got a lot going on, and you're right, we did invest in Rumble. | |
| We think it's important for there to be alternative technology platforms out there. | ||
| Not, of course, just for conservatives, but for any free-thinking people who don't want to get censored by big tech. | ||
| But you may have seen, I'm thinking pretty seriously about throwing my hat in the ring and running for Senate from the great state of Ohio in 2022 for Rob Portman's open seat. | ||
| I think I've got another month or so to figure out the decision and announce it, but should have some news on that front by the summer. | ||
| Okay, J.D., how do people get to you? | ||
| I know Politico tells me that your Twitter feed is pretty spicy. | ||
| It's a little hot. | ||
| Runs a little hot. | ||
| I'm just saying what Politico's telling me this morning. | ||
| We'll get that story up, too. | ||
| They're all over J.D. | ||
| for his Twitter. | ||
| And by the way, it's great to see the hand-wringing and the pearl-clutching of the traditional Republicans are just absolutely apoplectic about your Twitter feed. | ||
| So how do people track you on Twitter? | ||
| How do they get to your website? | ||
| How do they follow JD? | ||
| And by the way, we've already got the speech up in the live chat in all the different rooms that follow us, but how do people get to you? | ||
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Yeah, so best way is to go to my website, JDVance.com. | |
| Or to follow me on Twitter, JDVance1. | ||
| Sign up for the email list, follow me on Twitter. | ||
| I'll continue to have spicy takes, whatever I'm doing over the next few months. | ||
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And, you know, sometimes you gotta shake it up a little bit, so I'm glad I'm able to do that. | |
| Well, your speech definitely, JDVance. | ||
| Thank you very much for joining us. | ||
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Thanks, Steve. | |
| In the War Room. | ||
| I also want to thank the Claremont Institute. | ||
| This is why Claremont is so important as a driver of the intellectual ideas. | ||
| And for anybody, remember, when the mainstream media is sitting there going, oh there's no ideas out here, there's no ideas, this is all just an angry mob, right, of white supremacists and seditionists and all that. | ||
| I say, don't tell them it's different, show them it's different. | ||
| The way you show them is the caliber of people that are associated with this. | ||
| And you look at the caliber of an individual like J.D. | ||
| Vance. | ||
| And also, by the way, other people out there getting into the Senate race in Ohio. | ||
| You've got some really high class people, really super caliber, right? | ||
| So I think that's one of the things. | ||
| When you look around of who's stepping up into this movement. | ||
| To me, it's absolutely awe-inspiring because you've got the mothers, you know, every day we're going to have more moms on here, you know, taking over PTA boys about the mask mandate, about the forced vaccines, and particularly critical race theory. | ||
| You've got people joining, going to precinctstrategy.com, the great West Point graduate, Dan Schultz, what he's doing on getting all these billets filled in the Republican Party at the precinct level. | ||
| This is a true populist movement. | ||
| You see the caliber of individuals like J.D. | ||
| Vance. | ||
| I want to turn now to another incredible, incredible patriot that's put it all on the line, Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer, United States Air Force. | ||
| Colonel Lohmeyer, thank you very much for joining us in the War Room today. | ||
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Steve, thanks for having me. | |
| So, Colonel, I just want to make sure we set this right for the audience, because you've done some other interviews. | ||
| I don't think people have given you the time to kind of walk through the entire story. | ||
| You were relieved for cause, if I'm correct. | ||
| Was it Friday, last Friday? | ||
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Yeah, that's correct. | |
| I can talk to that if you'd like. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I want to go through that, but I want to particularly say, up until the moment you were relieved, you were You know, an Air Force Academy graduate, I think an F-15 pilot, you had been in the operating part of the air wings defending this country. | ||
| You were double deep selected, two below grade, to be selected for, I think, lieutenant colonel, which, you know, being a former naval officer, I will tell you, is the elite of the elite. | ||
| That's the hot runners, right? | ||
| There couldn't be more than four or five people in the Air Force that got that, I wouldn't believe. | ||
| Particularly operators, pilots. | ||
| Is it safe to say, given your fitness reports, given what the Air Force thought of Lt. | ||
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Col. | |
| Lohmeyer, up until Basically, Friday afternoon, you were among the finest young officers in the United States Air Force. | ||
| And I'm just saying that objectively, given your promotion period, the billets you had were some of the toughest billets in the Air Force. | ||
| Is it safe to say, and would I be incorrect in saying, that you were among the top young officers in the United States Air Force? | ||
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I appreciate you pointing that out. | |
| I do have a good record. | ||
| I spent, as you said, About four years as an instructor pilot in the T-38 in Oklahoma. | ||
| I spent just a year flying F-15s. | ||
| I was in Oregon and then Japan in Okinawa and then made a transition into what was then Air Force Space Command and became an expert in space-based missile warning. | ||
| And yeah, I've got a good record as evidenced by Promoting the Lieutenant Colonel early, like you said. | ||
| But that's always subject to change. | ||
| There's on-ramps and off-ramps in people's career. | ||
| And it's both a combination, I think, of trying to do what's right and work hard, as well as luck and time and circumstance. | ||
| And I think others who have had a successful career would attest to that. | ||
| There's plenty of good working service members who haven't had the opportunities or luck even that I've had. | ||
| Yeah, that's all true. | ||
| I don't want to say he's a guy who was a, you know, I was a naval officer for like eight years. | ||
| My daughter was, or eight and a half years, or eight years. | ||
| My daughter, I think, was an army officer for eight years. | ||
| She went to the academy and then punched out to civilian life. | ||
| That's all true. | ||
| But when you get selected, not just early for promotion, but two grades, that is someone that they are looking at that individual. | ||
| As someone that's going to be a leader in that branch of the military. | ||
| They were looking at Lohmeier because of his record. | ||
| Because of his performance as an individual in defense of his country. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| They were looking at him down range that this is the type of individual we see leading this institution or being one of the leaders of this institution. | ||
| And being someone years down the road or decades down the road would be at the highest councils of the ability of the national security of our nation. | ||
| That's just a demonstrable fact. | ||
| That is a demonstrable fact by his fitness reports, by the tough billets he had, by what he was asked to do, and how he was promoted. | ||
| And then, he's relieved for cause. | ||
| Colonel, I tell you what, I want to have some time to drill down on this. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break and I want to get back into it, but I want to make sure that the record's very clear here. | ||
| The military is obviously very, it's tons of camaraderie, but it is competitive. | ||
| And when you see these individuals that break out early in their year groups, they call them hot runners or water walkers or whatever, it's because they normally go from demanding job to demanding billet to demanding billet and they perform at the top one percent. | ||
| You know, not as typically outstanding in the fleet as we would say for the average. | ||
| And what is that? | ||
| That is a combination of intelligence, grit, character, Right? | ||
| But it's also performance. | ||
| When it counts, they perform. | ||
| Okay, we're gonna take a second, take a short commercial break. | ||
| We return, we got Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer, United States Air Force. | ||
| We return. | ||
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| Okay, I want to go back to, and this is one of the things about having a JD Vance and a Colonel Lohmeyer kind of back to back, not normally the way we do the show, but these individuals are empowering because they empower you because of their leadership and the way they're prepared to risk things in their life. | ||
| I want to go back to Colonel Lohmeyer. | ||
| So, you took command of, from being a pilot, F-15 pilot, you went to the Space Force, you became, I think, the 11th Space Warning Group's commanding officer about a year ago, 11 months ago, is that correct? | ||
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That's correct, and let me just point one thing out, Steve, because I've been provided a disclaimer that I'm required to read by Air Force, Space Force, Public Affairs, and so I'm going to take 10 seconds to do it so I can keep myself out of any further trouble. | |
| But the words I was given to read are the views expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Department of Defense, the Air Force, or the Space Force, or the United States government. | ||
| And so I just wanted to say that up front before we continue and say I also put that disclaimer three times in my book. | ||
| But yeah, that's correct. | ||
| I was in charge of the 11th Space Warning Squadron. | ||
| I took command last July. | ||
| And so what happened? | ||
| Yeah, I've got a, I got a super hot runner. | ||
| I got one of the number one young officers in the Air Force. | ||
| He gets a command early, you show up and then 11 months into it, you're relieved for cause. | ||
| And I kind of understand, I think the audience gets the disclaimer. | ||
| So there's something, something happened in that journey, right? | ||
| Was there, did you have an operational problem or is there a difference in opinion about how we were instructing people? | ||
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Well, no, I don't think there was an operational problem. | |
| We have a very good squadron in the 11th Space Warning Squadron. | ||
| It's one of two space-based missile warning squadrons that we've got in the Space Force that do a very critical mission for both the country and our allies. | ||
| When I was called in and relieved of command last Friday for cause, and that's the terminology that you correctly mentioned that exists in regulation or in the Department of Defense instructions, The allegation was that I was politically partisan while acting in an official capacity first, which I deny. | ||
| I don't believe I've ever been politically partisan while acting in an official capacity. | ||
| I point out in my book, however, that many, many others have. | ||
| And as that book proliferates, many, apparently tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people are going to get to see just how politically partisan we can sometimes get. | ||
| Specifically, I'll point people to the second half of Chapter 5 of the book, as well as the entirety of Chapter 6. | ||
| This is kind of funny. | ||
| I like seeing the one-star reviews show up on Amazon, by the way. | ||
| I like reading what those folks have to say, which isn't much. | ||
| Because they're all bots, that's why, trust me. | ||
| Because because because because they're all bots that's why trust me the left is gonna tell you We're gonna hit you with a ton of one stars. Well. There's a there's a particular phrase. I've heard before that I really like it It's, ideologically possessed humans. | ||
| You know that people are ideologically possessed when they start repeating the same banter, the one-liners, over and over again. | ||
| In fact, all of the negative feedback I've received, which is not much by the way, has been, kill yourself, I hate you, we have no room for fascists in the military, you're a racist, and that's about where it stops. | ||
| My favorite one-star review on Amazon was, the book is vague and boring and he provides no specific examples of this kind of thing that he alleges is taking place in the Defense Department. | ||
| That's absolutely a comment from someone who's not read my book. | ||
| Now, while I try and preserve the privacy and the identities of some of the individuals involved, I did that very carefully with legal help. | ||
| I'm very specific in the ways in which this critical race theory, for example, which is rooted in Marxism, is fundamentally transforming the culture of our armed forces, just like it is polarizing the entirety of the country at the moment around different narratives of American history. | ||
| How is it fundamentally transforming? | ||
| We've got a couple of minutes in this segment. | ||
| We'd love to hold you over at the top of the hour. | ||
| How is it fundamentally transforming? | ||
| If it's just to kind of get the racial issues up on the table in the military, why is it fundamentally transforming the military? | ||
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Depends on how much time I've got to answer this question. | |
| Depends on how I'm going to tackle that. | ||
| Have I got a couple of minutes? | ||
| Oh, you've got as long as you want. | ||
| You've got two minutes here and then we'll take a break. | ||
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So let me give you just an example. | |
| One of the things that the media has been focused a lot on in the last couple of days is that I pointed out that there were videos that were sent out, for example. | ||
| Now, they misrepresent what I've said. | ||
| They say that they were Department of Defense videos, for example. | ||
| They weren't created by the Department of Defense. | ||
| They were used by members of the Department of Defense to help spread the idea that we have a racist, a systemically racist country. | ||
| For example, I misspoke on Hannity the other night, by the way. | ||
| I said that the video said that whites are evil. | ||
| I had already used the word evil in my sentence, and I said it again, but it said that whites are inherently racist, and the oppressor versus oppressed narrative that is developed in Section 1 of the Communist Manifesto is rampant in our society at the moment, and so I try and lay out what that ideology is, what that narrative is, that's presented first in 1848 by Marx and Engels, that has taken various forms, shapes, masks, faces over the last century. | ||
| I just want to read to you briefly, it'll take one minute, some of what those videos were saying, so that I can get that right and on the record. | ||
| It's in the beginning of chapter two of my book, The first video the base was asked to watch portrays American history as fraught with racism from 1619 until the present day, quote unquote, 400 years of white supremacy. | ||
| The film teaches that the United States constitution codified a racist social order intended to allow whites to remain in power while subjugating and oppressing blacks, and that we as a nation have never escaped from that foundation of racism. | ||
| Further, that upon ratification of the Constitution, again, this is the thing I've sworn an oath to defend, quote-unquote, white supremacy was now the official policy of the United States of America. | ||
| That's false. | ||
| The Constitution does not make white supremacy the official policy of the United States, and that was said to our service members. | ||
| Colonel Lohmeyer, hang on, we're taking a short commercial break. | ||
| Get hard out here, we're going to bring you back in a couple of minutes. |
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