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Episode 739 – The Golden EIB Mic Goes Silent (w/ Greitens, Preate, Krikorian, Giuliani)Episode 739 – The Golden EIB Mic Goes Silent (w/ Greitens, Preate, Krikorian, Giuliani)
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
I'll tell you, I don't think people realize how close we came to becoming what you just described.
You go back to the eight years of Obama, what was the economic message?
That America's best days are behind us.
That much of what we had accomplished was illegitimate because our founding was unjust and we had pilfered other countries.
We were now a nation in decline and we had to have responsible leadership to manage the decline.
And that your kids may be the first not to economically perform better than their parents.
They were setting us up for this.
Had Hillary Clinton won, that would have been the permanent America.
And this is exactly what these globalists have been talking about.
They need an America in decline to get rid of the whole concept of nation-state.
So Trump is up against a coalition of powers that people can't possibly even imagine.
You're right.
When you warn about how crucial this is at this time.
steve bannon
This is the heart of it.
This is politics of personal destruction.
They are out to not defeat Trump.
They're out to destroy Trump because they understand Trump gives the voiceless, silent majority.
Not in the room, not in the deal.
And Donald Trump not only puts you in the room, he's your spokesman.
What the established order does not want.
They do not want the silent majority of the American people to have a voice.
They want them to pay taxes, they want them to send their kids into the military, and they want them to keep their mouths shut.
donald j trump
Beloved by millions of Americans who just received a stage four advanced cancer diagnosis.
This is not good news, but what is good news is that he is the greatest fighter and winner that you will ever meet.
Rush Limbaugh.
In recognition of all that you have done for our nation, the millions of people a day that you speak to and that you inspire, and all of the incredible work that you have done for charity, I am proud to announce tonight that you will be receiving our country's highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
steve bannon
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steve bannon
Welcome.
You're in occupied Washington, D.C.
It's the 42nd day of occupation.
We've got our new logo we put up every day.
Now, count down the days until we have it.
You're in the War Room.
It's Thursday, 18 February, Year of the Lord 2021.
We're into Lent.
Ash Wednesday yesterday, and the golden mic is now silent.
Told us by his beloved wife, Rush Limbaugh's beloved wife, Catherine Adams.
Limbaugh announced it yesterday.
But my co-host Eric Greitens, thank you for coming in, Eric.
The storm that hit Texas is now upon us, and you managed to get in here this morning into the war room?
eric greitens
Yeah, I managed to get into the war room, and I want to come to Rush in a second.
He was also a tremendous supporter of our troops, and I want to remind everybody who's listening to this at home, who's maybe listening to this in their car, that as we were coming in today, you still see thousands of troops.
They are outside in the freezing, sleeting rain.
Standing behind fences with barbed wire and razor wire.
And to this day, you mentioned it, Steve.
Day 42.
Here we are.
No one from the Biden administration has come out to say why the troops are there.
What is the threat?
Share with the American people why their capital is on lockdown.
Share with the American people why so much of Washington, D.C.
is still surrounded by razor wire.
steve bannon
We're going to have this every day, the 42nd day of occupation.
We're going to get to Rush Limbaugh in a second, but I think Rush would be outraged if he really fully understood what was going on here.
eric greitens
Troops, guys need to know, look, I was a Navy SEAL, I did deployments in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Southeast Asia, in the Horn of Africa.
The first question on anybody's mind when you go out and you deploy is, what is the mission?
When I served as governor of Missouri, it was an honor to lead the men and women of the Missouri National Guard, but they always knew what the mission was.
If there were freezing roads out there and we needed to have people out there to protect public safety, if we were responding to a tornado, when as governor we defeated Antifa, We brought the Missouri National Guard in.
They knew what their mission was.
They were going to protect our firehouses.
They were going to protect our police stations.
You have to define what the mission is.
One of the great failures right now, at this moment, is that you have our troops, National Guard troops, deployed across Washington, D.C., and no one in the Biden administration can tell them this is what the mission is.
Here's the actionable intelligence about the threat.
steve bannon
This is why you're here.
My problem is, why is Kevin McCarthy and why is Mitch McConnell, why are they not every day banging on here to see the intelligence?
What is exactly going on?
The Democrats, you know why they want to do it.
This is psychological warfare.
eric greitens
Yes, it is.
steve bannon
They want to say this is to protect, and they say it's going to stay up to next fall.
Okay?
It's up to next fall.
That's where we're going to count down the days of occupation.
It is.
If the American people came here, it's absolutely stunning.
Jack, the great Jack Posobiec walks out of One America where we just, I did the three-hour version of the film with Mike Lindell over the One America studio, which is normally two minutes away from here.
It's not.
It's about 15 because you've got to go around the occupied city of the capital, Eric, and you've got Jack Posoba comes out of One America, he cuts on his live stream, and they're saying, hey, where are your papers?
That now, I think, has 700,000 views, because people are so shocked about, you've got actual troops like the Berlin Wall that are sitting there.
And here's the irony, we're going to get Mark McCrory in in the next segment, you know, the amnesty bills here, they don't want a wall on the southern border, but they want a wall around the Capitol.
But I don't know why the Republicans are not sitting there going, what is the actionable intelligence?
If you were governor of Missouri, because I know DeSantis and Abbott said, hey, if we're going to have guys up there, we need to know the mission.
And quite frankly, the National Guard's needed all down in Texas right now.
How would they have to come to you?
eric greitens
Well, you would demand to know.
You'd demand to know from the National Guard Bureau.
You'd demand to know from the Commander-in-Chief.
What is the mission?
You know, when this happens on a first day, somebody calls, there's an emergency, everybody grabs their gear, and you move.
You move to the sound of the guns.
You figure out what you figure out.
Where you need to be, why you need to be there.
We're in day 42.
Day 42.
And they have these men and women, I just passed them on the street 10 minutes ago, standing outside in the freezing, sleeting rain.
Now these are tough troops, they can handle it, alright?
That's not the point.
steve bannon
But still, what are you out there for?
But why?
unidentified
Why?
Look, and you want to talk about sap and morale?
You want to talk about sapping morale?
eric greitens
Listen, I've been in tough situations with a lot of men and women.
They are tough.
They will endure hardship, they'll endure pain, they'll endure difficulty, but you need to know why.
You need to know what the mission is, and this is a tremendous failure.
steve bannon
A lot of guys don't realize, a lot of folks out there don't realize, my co-host, Institute co-host Eric Greitens, Lieutenant Commander in the Navy SEALS, Rhodes Scholar, And also, former governor of Missouri, and now with Rural America's Voice, has a show and is a commentator, and we're going to try to have him, since he's around the Washington, D.C.
area, as much as in here as possible.
I want to go now to Rush Limbaugh.
And by the way, everybody in livestream and everybody in hashtag, we did the first show last night, an hour, hopefully they're going to play it all weekend.
It was fantastic, but I want everybody to share the first time you heard Rush, what Rush meant to your life.
We want those personal memories.
We're going to figure out what we're going to do with them.
I looked at the live chat last night and the hashtag, We're in Pandemic, was absolutely unbelievable, the impact this guy sent us.
Look, he is much more than a talk radio host. He's much more, he was a, that really is like FDR in the Fireside Chats.
This was a someone that was in people's lives and he was the bridge. He's the intellectual bridge between Reagan and Trump. He was that bridge. He's a major figure, not just in politics, but American culture, so much larger than just a talk radio host. And the way he did that, and that was the beginning. We started off, I was honored, and that was from October of 2019.
I'm glad that stood up pretty well in the test of time.
October 2019, I did a one hour Interview.
He didn't interview a lot of people, but for his newsletter, which is a very powerful newsletter.
I've been reading for years.
He says, hey, I've been watching you on this China stuff.
And he had been ahead of us on China, on China, too.
He says, can we do an hour?
I go, fine.
And we did this hour.
We're going to put clips of it up during the day today.
You've got to go to his site to get the full interview.
But it was amazing.
He was so engaged and ahead of the curve and just an engaging personality.
And also in 2004, I made my first film.
I directed my first film.
I heard some guys told Rush you gotta see it.
I went to his apartment in New York.
He was here at WABC at the time.
And it was after Reagan died and right before the Republican convention.
And we watched it on a Sunday afternoon at his apartment.
He loved it so much, we broke the film down like game film.
Because he's a huge football fan.
We were sitting there, he's got all the NFL memorabilia, and we did that.
So, Eric, your thoughts.
You've served your country in the military and is essentially a commando, which is what the Navy SEALs are, the Navy's commandos.
You've been in England to the you know probably the greatest university out there next to Harvard And you've and you've been actually been in elective office, and I know you're a big fan of Russia's What what was his meaning to the American people?
eric greitens
Well look he was as as all of our viewers and listeners know he was the voice he was a strong consistent voice and the reason why People gravitated to him, Steve, is that the American people are smart and they knew that Rush spoke from the heart.
He was telling people what he believed.
He was telling people what he saw.
He was telling people what was happening.
And if I might, I might, you know, I've unfortunately, having served in the military, I've lost some friends.
When I came back from Iraq, I started an organization to help veterans.
We lost some veterans.
We talked a lot about what does it mean?
How do you honor somebody's life?
And I'd like to take all of our viewers back.
There's this beautiful moment in Pericles' funeral oration, and Rush was a huge fan of history.
He knew this.
steve bannon
The Peloponnesian War, right?
eric greitens
The Peloponnesian War.
Thucydides is talking about what Pericles says at the funeral oration, and Pericles says, What we remember about those who have fallen is not what's engraved in stone monuments, it's what they've woven into the lives of others.
And the greatest way that you can honor Rush Limbaugh, if he had an effect on you, is not just to praise him and to mourn his loss, but to actually take up the cause, let your voice be heard.
The left would love it if all that happened was that people saw that that clip of him getting the Medal of Freedom and then people went away quietly.
What would drive them nuts and what Rush Limbaugh would love is if everybody was standing up, they were making their voices heard, and they were going out and they were finding articles that mattered to you.
Take a clip from the war room, take a clip from a strong conservative media source, send it to a friend, do it today.
steve bannon
If you haven't done it before.
Take an old clip of Rush's and put it on.
eric greitens
Take an old clip of Rush's!
steve bannon
You can take Russia from 10 or 15 years ago, they're just irrelevant today.
And it's still irrelevant!
eric greitens
Push it out!
Let your voice be heard!
Force multiplier.
Be engaged.
Be one of those active citizens that makes tyrants afraid.
steve bannon
It's like Andrew Breitbart and Rush Limbaugh.
Andrew Breitbart's once in a generation, Rush Limbaugh's once in a century.
These guys are not replaceable.
They are irreplaceable.
It doesn't mean that you can't follow on in their work and do it in a different way.
And I think that's what he would want the audience, all of his audience, to be more engaged than ever because, as you know from the steel on this election, And the polling is coming in now showing how much political capital Joe Biden's lost.
Rush would tell you, the country's at stake right now.
What's going to happen?
He's seen President Trump coming out with his great commemorations for Rush Limbaugh.
We're going to have Rudy Giuliani as a friend for 31 years.
Today, of all days, as we told you, they dropped the immigration bill.
So after the commercial break, Eric, Commander Greitens and I are going to come back.
We're going to have Mark Krikorian from Center for Immigration Studies.
They're moving hard.
This is a massive bill and it's pretty shocking what's in it, okay?
We're going to break it all down next in The War Room.
unidentified
War Room.
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With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
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steve bannon
Okay, we've got massive issues down in Texas with exactly what's going on with these rolling blackouts.
The storm is now sweeping up the East Coast.
There's going to be a lot of issues regarding this storm, power, etc.
in the next couple of days.
We're going to try to cover all that for you.
But in the middle of this, they drop, as we've been telling you.
We're very proud to have been head of this.
They're dropping a massive immigration bill, really an amnesty bill today.
So we reached out.
I want to really thank, we're bringing in Mark Kerkorian from the Center for Immigration Studies, I think, if not the top, one of the top two, one or two experts in the nation about immigration and how it affects the Republic.
So Mark, we've had you, your team, we've had NumbersUSA, we've had the top people in the country on here since really The day after the inauguration to talk about, you know, Biden is coming out of the box and the biggest thing he said, don't worry about the noise.
Don't worry about the noise of like the Paris Accord and all these other things are doing symbolically.
Look at the heart of the matter.
What they're really going to do is drive this amnesty bill.
And lo and behold, sir, they dropped it this morning.
So I want you to walk through, particularly what you warn people about, exactly what is this amnesty bill?
And I want to walk through how radical it is.
how much fundamental change will make to this country and why it is should be at the top of the agenda for a very low says republic every part of the trump uh... populist movement and the republican party including lindsey graham and all the squishes on immigration have got to get focus on what they're trying to accomplish your some are once you walk us do it in a record and so popular questions yeah there's three big pieces to it uh... means hundreds of pages long
mark krikorian
The summary itself is 67 pages long, so it's going to be hundreds of pages like these bills are.
Three big pieces.
Amnesty, weaker enforcement.
It doesn't even pretend to strengthen enforcement like the Gang of Eight bill does.
It actually explicitly weakens enforcement and dramatically increases future legal immigration.
So, the amnesty part first.
It would give amnesty Which is to say, a work permit, because that's the amnesty.
Everything else is frosting.
Once you get the work permit, you've been amnestied.
It gives it to every illegal immigrant who's been here since the first of the year.
Not people who've lived here for five years or ten years.
Maybe you can make a case for that.
It gives amnesty to everybody who's been here for at least a month and a half.
It's crazy.
And, and this is the political kind of spin to it, is that To maybe four million or so of those people, it gives an expedited path to citizenship.
So they'd get green cards right away and could apply for citizenship within three years.
I'm not sure, but I think there's a big event happening in less than four years that the administration is probably interested in.
The Democrats on immigration aren't just importing voters, but this fast track to citizenship I think really is a voter issue for literally this coming election.
A lot of these people will be in California where it won't matter, but a lot of the people getting this amnesty, the DACA people and others, are in Florida and Texas.
So there's a specifically targeted political aspect to this amnesty to try to help pull Kamala Harris over the finish line four years from now.
Interestingly enough, just as a side thing, but it's outrageous, it also requires taxpayer-funded lawyers for illegal immigrants in immigration proceedings.
So the next thing, weakens enforcement.
There's a bunch of measures that basically are rolling back things that Congress passed in 1996.
One thing that really jumped out at me is that this bill would have set up a commission to assess whether we should be verifying people's legal status for jobs.
In other words, future illegal immigrants, basically, are supposed to be kept out by the E-Verify system or some other system.
Well, this would establish a commission of employers and civil rights leaders and what have you to give recommendations on what to do about that.
You know perfectly well what the recommendations are going to be.
It's going to be to let illegal immigrants work again.
So, I mean, it really is astounding.
In weakening enforcement.
And the last specific thing that I'll talk about is it dramatically increases legal immigration.
Now it does it in like 20 different little pieces and we haven't actually come up with an estimate of how much it would increase it.
But you know what?
I don't feel too bad about that because yesterday on a call with reporters, the staff members of the sponsors of the bill said they hadn't even Estimated how much it would increase immigration, but that their guess was, and these are the spots, these people wrote the bill, their guess was it would be, quote, on par, unquote, with the Gang of Eight bill, which doubled, which would have doubled legal immigration.
So we're in this economic downturn because of the pandemic.
It's going to be years before we recover from this.
And Biden wants to increase immigration from one million a year to two million a year.
steve bannon
And it's chain migration.
Let me connect some dots.
You've got a massive amnesty, which is 11 to, who knows, some people, Ann Coulter says 30 million, Numbers USA and CIS says, no, it's probably closer, I don't know, 11, 15, but it's blanket amnesty.
Rapid, fast track so they can vote.
That's what they want.
They want the votes.
The employers want the bodies, right?
Want the labor.
They've already gutted what Trump tried to do because we couldn't get it statutorily because of Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, the enforcement.
They've gutted with the EOs all that already, including building the border wall.
Now they're actually going to just say, hey, no enforcement whatsoever and put it in statutorily.
And last, you've got the legal immigration, which is going to put pressure on the millennials, because they're going to have to compete from everybody all over the world for the high-tech jobs.
To connect some dots, Politico's lead story this morning, you got up at 6 o'clock, knowing that the bill was about to drop, was recipe for disaster, right?
I don't know if we have this in Denver, you can put it up.
Recipe for disaster, Dem fears mount over immigration overhaul.
And guess what they're talking about, ladies and gentlemen?
The Rio Grande Valley, which Steve Cortez and I have been banging on.
They talk in here, the buried lead is how worried they are about what Trump did.
Perez, the DNC guy, saying, no, no, no, it's foreign interference.
Biden's polls also come in today at 50% approval.
Here is the point.
If you want to eviscerate, Hispanic and African-American working-class families.
That's right.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
If you want to make sure that the millennial generation is nothing more than Russian serfs that are not going to own anything, not going to have late family formation, they're not going to have any accumulation of capital, you've got almost negative interest rates, right?
You can't accumulate capital then, and you've got the entire pressure of the entire world Coming in now, the legal immigration, to compete with them for the high-tech jobs.
Remember, this goes back to the buzzword, please remember, when Biden's sitting there, and Jake Sullivan's sitting there, and all these, Eric Schmidt's sitting there, about China, about the CCP, because the business model of the Party of Davos, their slave labor, of the Lao-Beijing, generates everything else to take down the cost of labor throughout the world.
And what do they say?
Oh, we're not going to confront them.
They're not an existential threat.
We're going to out-compete them.
We're going to be super competitive.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm all for innovation and competition.
This is what it gets down to.
This is the immigration bill.
Here's how you're going to compete.
You're going to flood the zone.
Wall Street and the global corporations are going to flood the zone with labor.
They're going to eviscerate.
Why are working-class Hispanics in Hidalgo and Starr County on the hard-scrabbled Rio Grande Valley?
Why are they voting in record numbers for Donald Trump?
And why is Politico reporting it's smart Democrats down there, including the guys that have been in office in the Democratic Party for 30 and 40 years, saying, hey, this is a problem?
That wall gave them security, and Trump's tough immigration policies allowed employment to go up and wages to rise.
eric greitens
Broad-based prosperity.
Broad-based prosperity.
steve bannon
You can't take the greed of the global corporations and Wall Streeters throughout this bill.
That's what this is about, and this will have now, in perpetuity, if this is passed, the millennial generation and the generation in back of them, you are nothing but serfs.
A couple of you will be able to break out, but overall, as a generation, game, set, match.
And for working class Hispanics and African-Americans that deserve a shot, For the fourth industrial jobs, fourth industrial revolution jobs.
No, we're going to flood the zone now with tens of millions.
If you think that you're not going to see any more illegal... People in Central America are rational human beings.
unidentified
That's right.
steve bannon
They're living through a biblical tragedy down there, also by the corporations and Wall Street and others that they're down there in these countries that should be booming with their natural resources and are not.
And they're making a rational decision.
I'm going El Norte.
I'm going to get up north.
Because I got a better deal up there, because the capitalists are prepared to let me in here, right, to compete than they are down here.
This thing is a total disgraceful sham.
Sham.
And it's great guys like CIS and Numbers USA.
This is the fight right here.
This is the fight.
And Lindsey Graham's going to traipse down to Mar-a-Lago and try to convince the President of the United States on DACA.
Here's where the fork in the road's coming.
Here's where the fork in the road's coming.
You want to talk about tomorrow's news today?
Lindsey Graham's going, oh, we're going to play golf, talk about the future of the Republican Party.
Oh yeah, this MAGA movement is pretty good, it should keep on.
Thank you, Lindsey.
Thank you for your blessing.
We appreciate it.
He's going down to sell DACA.
That's up.
Mark McCrory told us this week, he says, hey, they're going to put the bill up as a show bill, but they're going to try to break it apart and get it in there.
So Mark, walk us through your assessment.
We've got about a minute, I want to hold you over.
Walk through your assessment of how they're going to try to break this out and jam it through.
mark krikorian
They're going to try, and the clock is ticking, because on April 1st, there's a way to pass bills that the previous Congress, the previous House approved.
If you do it by April 1st, you don't have to have any hearings, any markups, nothing.
They can bring it straight to the floor.
And they're going to try to do that with the DREAM Act.
And you were talking about DACA, but it's really not DACA.
It's DACA Plus.
It's actually about four times bigger than the existing DACA program.
They're expanding it a bunch of ways.
Two million people, probably more than that.
And that's what they're going to try to do because they realize when they go for everything, they sometimes get nothing.
They're going to try to get pieces.
steve bannon
Mark, hang on for a second.
I'll bring you back over on top of this.
Remember, fighting this bill is not nativist.
It's not racist.
You're actually fighting for the chance for Hispanic And African-American families, working-class families, do have a shot at the brass ring.
Okay, we're going to return in a second.
Riley Giuliani is going to join us in a moment.
unidentified
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steve bannon
Okay, over 36 million downloads on the podcast.
We're live on the John Fredersen Radio Network nationwide.
I want to thank the guys in Richmond for doing that.
Thank the team in Denver, Real America's Voice.
We're on Dish Channel 219, Comcast Channel 113, On The Bird, everywhere where Real America's Voice goes, Roku, Pluto, everywhere.
Also, Rumble, Gab, Telegram, I think we've got 400-500,000 already signed up on Rumble.
And we're on G-News and G-TV, simulcast in Mandarin, so we really want to thank the team there.
And later in the day, blown through the firewall so that all of the Lao-Bai-Zhang in China can get to hear the sound of freedom.
And know that people are pulling for them and fighting for them every day because we must help the Chinese people free themselves to break the stranglehold of the party of Davos on the world economy.
I want to go back to Mark McCrory and I know Governor you have thoughts about this amnesty bill.
eric greitens
Well, look, let's just make this real simple.
I mean, Mark's breaking down all the numbers for everybody.
He's doing it brilliantly and beautifully.
This shows the great difference between the rhetoric of the left during the campaign and the reality!
unidentified
If Joe Biden had got up, he was hiding in his basement the whole campaign, but even from his basement, he'd come out and he'd said, guess what?
eric greitens
My first day, I'm going to sign an executive order to kill the Keystone XL pipeline.
I'm going to kill 11,000 jobs my first day.
And then, you know what my first big bill is going to be?
My first big bill is going to be an amnesty bill.
If he had done that, people would have known what they were getting.
But this is why the left tried to hide their true agenda.
Now we're seeing it.
This is what matters to them.
And they're not talking about public safety.
They're not talking about economics.
They're not talking about public health.
This is what the left is pushing.
steve bannon
In Star County and Hidalgo County, two most heavily Hispanic counties in the nation, Donald Trump won one, and the other went down from a 60-point loss to a 5-point loss.
Working-class Hispanics at the tip of the spear on the Rio Grande Valley understand the security proposition Donald Trump gave them and the economic proposition.
Mark Krikorian, real quickly, we're going to have you back because you're the man, you and the Center for Immigration Studies and NumbersUSA, tip of the spear on this thing.
Mark, what can our audience do today?
This is an activist audience.
They want action, action, action.
What would you tell the audience to do today to get, first off, to get up to speed on exactly what this thing entails, and then what other action do you want them to take, like, starting over the weekend?
mark krikorian
To get up to speed, visit our website, CIS.org.
We're a think tank.
But to do the citizen action, you recommended Numbers USA and I highly recommend that.
They're the ones who stopped the Obama amnesty.
They're the ones who stopped the Bush amnesty before that.
So first, get up to speed on what the issue is, what's going on here, and then get active.
By going to NumbersUSA.
So CIS.org first, NumbersUSA.com after that.
eric greitens
And share it!
And share it!
Share it with your friends and family!
steve bannon
Force multiple!
Absolutely!
Mark, your Twitter account, following your Twitter is like entertainment in and of itself, with your acerbic wit.
How do people get and follow you on social media?
mark krikorian
I'm on Twitter at Mark S. as in Steven.
Mark S. Krikorian.
I haven't been thrown off yet.
I think I was in jail once very briefly, but I've managed to avoid what happened to everybody else on Twitter.
steve bannon
Okay, brother.
Mark McCrory, thank you very much for joining us today.
I look forward to having you back on.
You're absolutely critical.
The think tank at CIS, you've got to get in the back of what this bill really is.
And we're going to be all over this.
I want to now bring in Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
Mayor, before, and one of the reasons we wanted to have you on today, it was last night, we had a little technical problem with such a dear friend of Rush Limbaugh's for 31 years.
And of course, this is the first, I guess, full day, because Rush's wife was on yesterday, the first full day of the Golden Mike.
We'll be silent.
And I want to get your thoughts on that, but I've got to go to your podcast last night.
Biden's putting this bill up.
A completely radical, it's just so radical in nature.
We've been telling it's going to be radical.
You've got to see it in print.
This radical amnesty bill that will literally destroy working-class Hispanic and African-American families and then make the Millennials compete against the world in their own country.
American citizenship's got to have a special deal.
If you're an American citizen, you get a better deal in the United States of America.
Heck, we put the burden of all the taxes, we put the burden of all the regulations, we put the burden of, and it's a burden that guys like Eric Greitens and myself and our families accept, to go serve your country, as you should do as a patriot, right?
But they use it as a free resource.
The civic society underneath that props up the free capital markets of Wall Street are taken as a free good, like the environment used to be in the old days.
The tragedy of the commons.
This is the tragedy of the commons.
The tragedy of the common man.
Right?
All the burdens put on you to perform and keep society.
And I tell you the best place I ever saw this is 9-11, in the days following 9-11, Mayor Giuliani and the New York Times every day for weeks and weeks and weeks would have the flag-draped caskets of the heroes that went into those buildings in churches, Catholic churches, Christian churches, Methodist churches, Episcopalian churches, throughout all the boroughs in New Jersey.
Every day, and I said, that's the civic society, it's those first responders, it's the cops, it's the ambulance drivers, that's the civic society that holds New York together, and particularly when you have to do it, and yet the New York Times is the first to mock and ridicule it, to mock and ridicule all the social structure that holds that together, right?
So Mayor, and last night you had this great podcast about Biden, and I've got to find out where the poll's from, but the poll came out today, At the same time in history, Obama was at 62% approval, Trump was at 57%, and Biden is now at 50%.
There's no political capital here, ladies and gentlemen.
percent and and Biden is now 50 percent. Wow. And this is what the mainstream media covering for 50 there's no political capital here ladies and gentlemen that's what we're saying I don't care if Twitter and Facebook and CNN does not like it We are the resistance and we're going to resist this.
Whether the executive orders with the red state governors or whether it's this amnesty bill, we're going to resist.
we're not going to submit because this takes the country in a radical uh... place and and and if you look at that bill it is and this does not hispanic and working-class african-american families in this country now by this bill has passed and for the millennial generation of every gender race ethnicity religion or gender and sexual preference it destroys the millennial gen z they have to compete with what two million more trust me if they agree to this there will be many more
than that mayor tell us about your podcast last night about the china and about biden and why do you think his poll numbers are sinking like a stone well a bill like that steve and look the executive orders were pretty much equally as insane as that And we are right now, and I don't know if we pay enough attention to it, we're going through a major crime wave in America.
rudy giuliani
I know New York the best.
New York had a record increase in violent crime last year.
Never in the history of New York City, in its worst days, did New York City have a 40% increase in homicide, 100% increase True all throughout Democrat America.
On top of that, he is now going to bring in many, many people who are not going to be inspected the way they should.
Aside from the issue of jobs, which is tragic at a time like this, this will make this country much more dangerous.
I am not saying they're all criminals.
I know the left will go run out and say, I'm saying they're all criminals.
I know a hell of a lot more about immigration than they do.
I used to run it.
Most of them are not criminals.
Most of them do take jobs from Americans, but most of them follow the law.
But the ones who don't are not an insignificant number.
And when you get to M13, they're barbaric beyond anything we ever heard of with organized crime.
So he is going to add to the complexities of policing by bringing in Even if it's only 5% that are criminals.
You add 5% more violent criminals to New York, Chicago, 20 murders a weekend, St.
Louis, Atlanta, he's lost his mind.
steve bannon
Look, whatever the percentages are, because even 5% is probably way too high, my point is, if you bring in any Criminals.
The country's got a big enough crime problem right now that you shouldn't.
And by the way, all the crime is against working class families.
eric greitens
That's right.
steve bannon
All the crime is against working class families.
Why did the working class Hispanics in the Rio Grande Valley vote for Trump?
Because of border security.
They understand their families are at the front line of this.
They're the ones that have the fewest resources for policing.
They're the ones that have all the difficulty.
They're being preyed on.
And now they're being preyed on by the capitalists.
eric greitens
One of the problems with leftist intellectuals is that they don't have to live with the consequences of their bad ideas.
They don't have to live with the consequences of their bad ideas.
rudy giuliani
100%.
They live in their own world, they live in an ivory tower, and also, their ideas are highly unrealistic.
Because they've never run anything, they've never done anything practical.
Look, on the southern border, Our immigration is being run by the gangs, not by us.
If you watch Laura Logan's wonderful series on Fox Nation, she's right in there.
And I've talked to her a lot.
Basically, you want to get into the United States, you don't you don't go to immigration, right?
You go to one of the gangs, and they'll let you in.
The price of that is for every three people working, they put one of their guys in.
That's the whole purpose of running it.
So he has no idea what he's doing.
And the reason he's at 50% is only because he's getting a honeymoon and there's censorship on things that should actually destroy it.
The criminal nature of his family that's been 30 years and the election.
We can't talk about it.
We can't talk about things that would be devastating to any other president.
He's getting a honeymoon and he's at 50%.
Trump didn't get a honeymoon.
I mean, Thank you.
Obama got a set I got it got a coronation, but I know but Trump's numbers are real numbers based on grueling you remember it you were there grueling coverage. Biden's numbers are based on how do you feel today, Joe? Would you like would you like to sit down while you're talking? Wasn't it? Can we also leave you with a terrible problem?
eric greitens
And let's point out because you know what Mayor Giuliani has the unfortunate distinction of probably having to have attended more first responder funerals in the country than any person in the United States of America.
I know he continues to do it with his work through Tunnel to Towers.
He goes, he pays off the mortgages of fallen police officers.
He's come to Missouri.
He's done this.
He's made countless differences in the lives of our first responders.
Who suffers?
Our first responders, okay?
It's the men and women of the Border Patrol.
It's the men and women of police departments around the country.
They're the ones who have to deal with these consequences.
steve bannon
Greitens brings a big point.
It's not just the amnesty.
They totally got, by the way, executive order's already gutted everything Trump did.
He guts, he guts internal enforcement.
He guts, basically, there's no enforcement provision in this thing.
They actually roll back enforcement.
Mayor, we got about a minute.
What are your thoughts on that?
On the ability to enforce the immigration laws as we currently have it, given all the great stuff Trump did, and Hispanic working class families are responding to that.
rudy giuliani
Well, there's going to be obviously less enforcement.
I mean, the impetus for it came from the federal government and from the local governments who cooperate.
But in these Democratic-owned cities, they don't cooperate.
They have sanctuary cities.
They have people there.
They don't even know who's there.
So, I mean, there's no scenario in which this gets better.
This is one of those liberal plans.
This one doesn't even work out on paper, much less in the street.
I mean, sometimes they have ideas that sound good, and then don't work.
This one sounds bad!
And it doesn't work.
And it's dangerous.
steve bannon
Yeah, we're going to take a quick break.
We're going to bring back Mayor Giuliani.
He's going to join us in the next segment.
We're going to talk about Rush Limbaugh and get to that.
Alexander Priet, our Communications Director, is going to join us also.
I want to say one thing, just to make sure.
The defund the police crowd are also the people that want to take down ICE.
It's all one thing.
They want more and more anarchy.
They want more and more anarchy.
And the people that pay for this are the working class families in these cities and along the border.
eric greitens
They're the ones whose cars are getting broken into.
They're the ones who are having their shops robbed.
They're the ones who have to deal with all these consequences.
steve bannon
And working class cops and first responders.
That's right.
eric greitens
That's right.
steve bannon
This is a scam.
This is a Wall Street scam.
Trust me.
They want lower wage costs because they get higher margins, higher stock prices.
I can do the math for you.
It's quite simple.
We'll return with the Mayor and Alexander Priet in a minute.
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steve bannon
Welcome back.
This is the first full day that the Golden Mic down in Palm Beach will be silent.
The great Rush Limbaugh, an American cultural icon, has passed away.
We have his friend of over 31 years, Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
Mayor, you brought up yesterday in the evening show, we did the memorial kind of for Rush for the entire hour, about how, you know, Roger Ailes for the first couple years I think was the executive producer of his show when he moved to WABC, your current station, owned by John Katsimatidis now.
in New York, which has always been the top talk radio station in the country.
When Rush moved there, it took the noon to three slot.
Roger Ailes will work with him.
Talk to us about that.
Talk to us about Ailes and Rush in the early days.
rudy giuliani
Very, very close friends.
Very similar personalities.
They loved to play touch football and, believe it or not, water volleyball all summer and fall.
I was Roger's client.
He ran my campaign for mayor.
And we became lifelong friends as a result of that.
He taught me, to the extent I am, he taught me how to be a politician.
And as he was teaching me, he was also training Rush.
So I would sometimes be in his office while he was talking to Rush or meeting with Rush.
So we became friends.
And Rush would be Rush no matter what.
I'm not saying Roger made Rush, but Roger certainly Improved him the way he did O'Reilly and Hannity.
And you think of all... Roger to me is like the great football coach with the 10 other great football coaches that come from him, you know?
unidentified
Like, you know, all the Lombardi people.
steve bannon
The coaching tree.
rudy giuliani
Yeah, you get four or five guys to come out of it that are... He's got like the cream of the crop.
And he really understood television.
He'd hate me if I said this.
He understood television better than politics.
I mean, he started television with Phil Douglas, and he saw a great talent in our friend Rush.
And really, it was, of course, the intellect, and it was, of course, his ability to reason and speak.
steve bannon
You're a New York City guy, born and bred, and you're now on WABC.
How did they accept a guy who was through Sacramento, but he's really a guy who From Missouri, right?
How did you accept a guy from Missouri taking that noon to three slot?
How did that work in the first couple of years?
unidentified
Was that pretty shocking when this guy... Well, New York... No, it wasn't at all.
rudy giuliani
He fit right in.
New York had had talk radio for about 12 years.
And Bob Grant, if you remember, was the major hit in New York up until Rush.
And Bob Grant was tough.
unidentified
I mean, Couple of suspensions.
rudy giuliani
I mean, he just, he just laid it all out.
And Bob Grant, I got to know very well.
He was a big supporter of mine when I, when I was US Attorney.
Ran for mayor.
Every once in a while, I substituted and did his shows.
And there were a couple of others, almost all right wing.
There was another one, Barry Gray, another famous New York talk.
He was a, he was a liberal who turned conservative, kind of like Koch.
As the city got more and more crime So Rush was there at a time in which the city was in deep contemplation about what it should be, whether it should be liberal or conservative.
And eventually I got the benefit of that when I got elected in 93.
That thinking isn't there anymore, unfortunately.
But Rush was well received.
He was a hit in New York within four or five months.
steve bannon
Talk to us about your personal relationship.
His great passion, outside of communications to the American people, was golf.
Talk to us about that.
rudy giuliani
Well, golf was his life.
I mean, his usual schedule was, particularly in the summer when it's warm down there, he'd get up very early, he'd play 9 or 18 holes, he'd come and do the show.
Or, if he had to do something in the morning, as soon as the show was over at 4 o'clock, he'd jump in his car, and he'd take off for one of about 5 golf courses that he He played at, and he loved to play, and I have wonderful memories.
This time every year, last year we couldn't do it because he was sick, but up until last year, every year, we used to train.
We played two or three times during February for the March Ailes for Autism Golf Tournament with Roger Ailes, myself, and the head of Cigar Aficionado, Marvin Shankin, who really sponsored the whole thing.
The purpose of it was to build a beautiful school for challenged children.
Ernie's child has autism and Ernie dedicated himself to it.
He played in it every year.
unidentified
He loved it.
rudy giuliani
And there's a school there now with hundreds of children being helped because of the tremendous amount of money that he put in.
And of course, Ernie and Marvin Shankin was like a saint.
But it was a wonderful thing.
It brought us all together.
It gave us a real cause.
We could go look at the schools.
Our names were there.
Then we could play in this wonderful golf tournament.
And the people who played, Marvin, charged them $35,000 a foursome.
But they all get to play with a pro like Jack Nicklaus.
Or we won the tournament one year playing with Michelle Wee.
Do you have time for a funny story?
steve bannon
Yeah, we got about a minute.
rudy giuliani
I get this one done in a minute.
So every once in a while, I was always his partner.
So we'd always ride together.
He always wanted me to drive because he wanted me smoking cigars.
So one day we're driving and these paparazzi are driving us crazy to take a picture, to take a picture, to take a picture.
And he said, Giuliani, what did you do now?
They're all following you around.
You know how I hate pictures taken?
I know you're famous, but damn, can't you tell him to stay away?
He's like growling.
And I say, just come up to the come up to the green with me.
unidentified
Come on.
rudy giuliani
So on the green is Michelle Wee and she's getting ready to putt.
Now, Michelle Wee is gorgeous.
She's six feet and she has a strange putting stance.
She bends all the way over and her panties show.
And the press was going crazy.
They were trying to take pictures of her panties.
I said, Roger, it's not me.
It's not you.
It's her panties.
Is that okay to tell that joke?
I'm not sure.
unidentified
We already told it, so I don't know.
steve bannon
Mayor, how do people get to your podcast?
We got about 30 seconds.
rudy giuliani
You go to rudyscommonsense.com and you hit Subscribe and you get the podcast and you get the op-ed piece and we're talking about China and we're talking about analyzing the conversation that Biden had with Xi, the little snippets that we got of it, which completely avoid all the big issues like they're attacking us with COVID and they're announcing they want to overtake us in 2048.
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