Feb. 18, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| So you don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| Okay, back in the war room. | ||
| We're in occupied, we're in militarily occupied Washington D.C. | ||
| on the 42nd day of it. | ||
| Eric Greitens, my wingman this morning. | ||
| Raheem Kassam is out in Arizona giving a, going to give a talk at a leadership conference, and we're going to try to get Raheem here at the bottom of the hour, go through Churchill. | ||
| Greitens is a former lieutenant commander in the Navy SEALs, Rhodes Scholar, and former governor of Missouri, and of course one of the big personalities in Royal American's Voice, and we always love having him in studio. | ||
| I want to go now to Andrew Torba, the CEO of Gab, which is on fire. | ||
| Yep, on fire. | ||
| So Eric, I know you've got a bunch of questions for Andrew, too. | ||
| But Andrew, the first thing I want to do is talk about kind of a geopolitical issue, or even a bigger issue about these oligarchs. | ||
| In, I think it's Australia, Facebook has decided that they're in a fight with the Australian government and the Prime Minister of Australia overnight is saying, I feel like I have to confront Facebook like I confront a sovereign nation that's trying to shut down our freedom. | ||
| Can you explain what's going on in social media overall about how these oligarchs, I know you're one of the first guys to say, hey they are oligarchs, and what they're trying to do, and you worked out there, you were in Silicon Valley, so you know what's going on. | ||
| Walk us through what the danger is right now, particularly when they're taking on sovereign nations, when Facebook is taking on a sovereign nation like Australia? | ||
| So in many ways you're absolutely right. | ||
| Facebook has more power, more data, more control over the flow of information than sovereign nations. | ||
| So what we've seen now is them blocking access to 25 million plus people in Australia from Sharing Australian news sources and Australian news links. | ||
| And it's not only the people of Australia, but globally. | ||
| You are not allowed, if you're one of Facebook's 2 billion users, to share Australian news links. | ||
| This is insanity. | ||
| We want to do the exact opposite of this at Gap. | ||
| We want to take the freedom of speech that we have here, guaranteed by the First Amendment, as a U.S. | ||
| company, and export that freedom to every country on the planet. | ||
| Steve, we get data requests and stuff all the time from foreign countries, from Brazil, from the UK, from Germany, demanding that we take stuff down because it's quote-unquote hate speech. | ||
| We don't abide by these requests, and we're never going to. | ||
| We only answer to the U.S. | ||
| government, to U.S. | ||
| law. | ||
| We're not going to arbitrarily censor news links from an entire country. | ||
| This is madness. | ||
| So it's not only people on the right or the left. | ||
| Now, big tech is attacking sovereign nations, and this is a real problem. | ||
| Eric, jump in here if you want. | ||
| Everybody's running around saying, coming to me, oh, we're going to build a new social media platform, we're going to do this, we're going to launch this, we've got all this. | ||
| And I keep telling them, I've been in the finance business a while, it's not that easy. | ||
| It's not like you just one day wake up and say, hey, I think I want to start a social media. | ||
| I'll go get a coder. | ||
| Next thing we know, it's up. | ||
| Andrew, walk through how long you've been in this business and how hard it is. | ||
| All these people are running around with fantasies. | ||
| I'm going to start a social media thing tomorrow. | ||
| Well, I just want people to understand the grind this is and how difficult and how really the barriers to entry are quite high. | ||
| It doesn't look like it. | ||
| I know it's not capital intensive, but it's brains intensive and kind of understanding the new language you would write to build a social media platform. | ||
| Yeah, so Steve, I've been doing this for about five years. | ||
| I welcome anybody to attempt to start their own social network because I was naive when I first started it in thinking the same way, thinking, oh, this this can't be too difficult. | ||
| You get a couple of engineers, you put something together, you get it on the app stores and boom, you have a new social network. | ||
| Well, suddenly it's not that easy anymore, because if you're going to build a new social network, especially one that defends free speech, guess what? | ||
| You're not allowed on app stores. | ||
| You're not allowed on cloud hosting providers. | ||
| You're not allowed with banks. | ||
| You're not allowed to use PayPal. | ||
| You're not allowed to use email services. | ||
| So these are all things that we have been banned from over the course of five years of building Gab. | ||
| And we have built all those things up from scratch. | ||
| We had no choice. | ||
| So we have our own server infrastructure. | ||
| We have our own email systems. | ||
| We have our own web browser. | ||
| I mean, we have come prepared and we have been building like for five years. | ||
| It's not just as simple as go build your own social network. | ||
| You have to build all the underlying infrastructure that comes with supporting, maintaining and operating that social network. | ||
| And I don't think a lot of people realize the amount of work that is involved behind the scenes to do all this. | ||
| Yeah, and Andrew, talk a little bit about, you've got this piece out, it's on GAB, about building our own economy, but really it's also about building a conservative infrastructure and giving people hope about the power that they have from an economic perspective, from a social media perspective. | ||
| Talk with everybody who's listening and watching right now a little bit about how you see their power and what they can do to really build a structure so that they're not You know, capable of being targeted by big tech in the way that people currently feel vulnerable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I think the problem with the American populist movement that we have been building here over the past five years is that it's highly centralized. | ||
| So, you know, the enemy and the oligarchs all went after that central figure, in this case, Trump. | ||
| So now they've silenced him from the Internet. | ||
| You know, you're not allowed to hear from him. | ||
| And they removed him from office through this rigged election nonsense. | ||
| Everybody saw exactly what happened. | ||
| Nobody's saying, OK, well, what's next? | ||
| What we need to do is decentralize the movement and have, you know, a million Donald Trumps at every state, local, county, town level becoming mayors and becoming a part of the state legislatures and becoming a part of the school boards. | ||
| You know, we can't control what's going on in D.C., but we can control what's going on in our own backyard. | ||
| And to speak to the consumer's power, that's the one place that we have our power. | ||
| So many millions of people feel like they've been disenfranchised with this election, but where we still have power is where we spend our time, where we give our information and our data to, and the things that we're buying. | ||
| So what we need to do is build our own economy from the ground up that is immune to this woke, canceled culture nonsense. | ||
| If your church has gone woke, Find another church. | ||
| Look at the brands and the things that you're buying. | ||
| Look at their websites. | ||
| Are they gone woke? | ||
| Are their ads woke? | ||
| Well then, stop buying them. | ||
| Buy something else. | ||
| Support local small businesses. | ||
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Stop. | |
| Cut the cable cord, including Fox and CNN. | ||
| Both sides, by the way. | ||
| Cut the cable cord. | ||
| Go to Alt Media. | ||
| Support Alt Media. | ||
| Like this show. | ||
| Leave Big Tech. | ||
| Go to our Alt Tech platforms like Gab. | ||
| That is where we have power and where we spend our time, where we spend our money, and where we spend our energy. | ||
| That's where I think that we can take this movement forward now. | ||
| How do people do this in the modern world? | ||
| I mean, they would have to restructure their life. | ||
| You know, Tudor Dixon, who's one of the great hosts on Real America's Voice late in the day, she has a talk show. | ||
| I had her on about a couple weeks ago. | ||
| Andrew, we were talking about this very topic. | ||
| In fact, it was when you were coming into the heat of the news as Gab as an alternative. | ||
| But they're saying, oh, Gab's toxic, it's got racists, it's got white supremacists, it's got anti-semites in there. | ||
| And she was making the point about people being taken off of Facebook. | ||
| And she said, hey, as a modern mom, In today's environment, with the kids playing sports, the girls in dance class, everything like that, it would be almost impossible for her to conduct her social life. | ||
| In fact, she had to actually, I think, tone down Real America's Voice to separate out her professional life from her personal, so her account didn't get shut down. | ||
| How practical is it for people today to just say, kind of, You know, unplug and then replug in these alternatives. | ||
| Are the alternatives robust enough? | ||
| Are there really alternatives out there? | ||
| Or would this put a major crimp in people's lifestyle? | ||
| No, there are, but make no mistake about it, Steve. | ||
| It's going to take work, right? | ||
| You know, it's going to take work on our end, but if we want to be empowered, if we want to crumble the system without being violent, without doing anything else outside of taking our time, taking our information and taking our money away from these people, away from this wicked culture and into a new culture and into a new economy. | ||
| We're laying the groundwork right now. | ||
| I think Gab is one of the prime examples of laying the groundwork for Really a new digital ecosystem. | ||
| And I think that there will be others who build real life infrastructure and real life businesses that can be popped up in local towns and communities. | ||
| But this is happening already. | ||
| We see big tech being challenged in North Dakota and they're losing their minds over this. | ||
| We see a Montana bill that's designating Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization. | ||
| We see a Florida restaurant going viral for face diapers not required mask policy, right? | ||
| So we see people, normal people, pushing back at the local level in their own backyards, in their own communities, in their own towns. | ||
| And that's how we're going to take this country back is by starting at the county level, by starting at the town level, and then working our way up to take the country back. | ||
| I want to go, one thing is that, and Grace, you've got to jump in here, this is a tough mic to get to, hang on, before I turn over to Eric, you keep saying wicked culture, and I know that you're really saying, hey, my years in Silicon Valley, these are nihilist, right? | ||
| Walk through the mindset, not individual people are bad, but walk through the cultural mindset that pervades the tech oligarchs. | ||
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Right. | |
| So this culture is a culture of supremacy. | ||
| You know, they like talking about white supremacy and all this stuff. | ||
| But really, these people believe that they are supreme to the rest of us plebs, right? | ||
| They believe that they went to the best schools and, you know, they built the biggest companies and they have all the control and all the power. | ||
| They know that they are more powerful than the U.S. | ||
| government and that they are pulling the purse strings of the U.S. | ||
| government. | ||
| You know, members of Congress are bought and sold by cattle in Silicon Valley, depending on who has the biggest check. | ||
| So this is something that we need to recognize is that this existing system is so flawed, is so corrupt, is so wicked. | ||
| That it's beyond saving at this point. | ||
| We need to rebuild from scratch, and that's why I believe that starting at the local level is the way to do that. | ||
| Starting in your own backyard, that's something that we can control. | ||
| And then getting even more granular, we can control the basic things of what are we buying? | ||
| Where are we spending our time? | ||
| Where are we giving our information and our photos and all of our most intimate conversations to literally people that hate us, people that want to silence us, people that use the money that they make off of us because we're their digital serfs. | ||
| Uh, to attack us, to get people into office that, uh, you know, do things against our own interests. | ||
| So this culture of, uh, moral superiority of, of, of nihilistic supremacy that they have in Silicon Valley is really that they are better than us. | ||
| They're a supreme, uh, you know, group of people to the rest of the billions of people on this planet. | ||
| And they know what's best. | ||
| And if you don't like it, then you're going to be banned from the internet. | ||
| You're going to be banned from banks. | ||
| You're not going to have a job. | ||
| So that's the reality that they're creating. | ||
| And that's the reality that we have to push back against. | ||
| Yeah, and two thoughts on this. | ||
| I mean, first is, a lot of times we feel like we're in a modern moment that's somehow different from all of history, right? | ||
| because our forefathers obviously, they didn't have Facebook, they didn't have Twitter, they didn't have to deal with all this stuff. | ||
| But what Andrew's talking about is something that's actually embedded in the DNA of America, right? | ||
| Remember the Boston Tea Party? | ||
| Okay, at the time, what happened? A few people went out and they dumped some chests of tea into the harbor, okay? | ||
| It didn't feel like at the moment this was a major event, but what happened was people said, we are going to take back our economic power, we are going to take back the power that's in our hands. | ||
| And so I think the beauty of what Andrew is talking about is everybody recognizes that you do have power. | ||
| And yes, these things shift slowly over time, but as more and more people leave these big tech platforms and go to places like Gab, it makes a difference. | ||
| The other thing I think is so important about what Andrew's saying is about the elitist mentality, okay? | ||
| And I want to cue in on one particular word that you often see. | ||
| If you read Andrew's piece, which I encourage people to do, you can see he's a man of faith and he's talking about the importance of faith in American life. | ||
| When you hear the left come out and talk about science, science, science, what they really mean, what they really mean is that they're opposed to people of faith. | ||
| When they say, you believe the science, believe the experts, because the fact is, you could get the entire leftist White House press corps together, and you could ask all of them. | ||
| You know, examine physics, biology, chemistry. | ||
| These are not people who are engaged in the science. | ||
| These are not people who understand the science. | ||
| This is the leftist trying to diminish the perspective and the voice of people, of American citizens who have their faith in this country also rooted in their faith. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I like to say, what are the transhumanists, nihilists, and their technocracy, what are they offering of spiritual value? | ||
| In this critical theory, woke culture, cancel culture, there is no room for redemption. | ||
| there is no room for forgiveness spot for for love for dominion for sovereignty for uh... you know hold all these things that we get after christian gospel yes yeah from the gospel of christ so that's what our message needs to be is that that is the one person that unites us across left right middle center as americans is christ and and the moment we forgot that is the moment that this country started going downhill so that's what we need to return to and you can use hangar for one second I want to talk more about Gab and also this concept of transhumanism. | ||
| It is an issue that needs to be put on the table front and center and discussed because this is actually the substrate of the party of Davos. | ||
| Okay, we're going to turn in a second. | ||
| Andrew Torba, the CEO of Gab. | ||
| Eric Greitens, my wingman today. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| OK, welcome back. | ||
| We've got Eric Greitens, former governor of Missouri, in with us as co-host today. | ||
| And we've got Andrew Torba, CEO of Gab. | ||
| So, Andrew, for our audience, because this is an activist audience, they want action, action, action. | ||
| They want to know how they get engaged. | ||
| Not simply Gab, but across the board. | ||
| How do people get a social media presence? | ||
| And let's use Gab maybe as an example. | ||
| How do you get on? | ||
| How do you build your social media presence? | ||
| How can people start off? | ||
| If they want to be a force multiplier, how can they use social media platforms like Gab to actually do that? | ||
| So, you know, GAAB is allowing the free flow of information. | ||
| We don't have algorithms in our home feed or anything like that. | ||
| So you just get a straight flow of information as it's happening. | ||
| The best way to get involved and to learn and to share information is by engaging with other people and speaking freely. | ||
| I mean, just having conversations with people on GAAB. | ||
| We have GAAB groups, so you can join local community groups in your state or even your town, your city in some cases. | ||
| and connect with different people and really understand that you're not alone in the world. | ||
| I think that's the biggest thing that Gab is bringing to the table is that so many people feel so alone because they can't discuss a lot of things at work, with family, even with their friends, but they're thinking them. | ||
| To see that other people are thinking and seeing the same things that they are doing is very empowering. | ||
| The best way is just to engage with other people and to communicate with other people and realize that you're not alone because then we become empowered as individuals when we realize that there are other people who see what's going on in the world and other people who want to do something about it and start building. | ||
| So that's that would be my recommendation is just to speak openly. | ||
| And jumping here, but what about from 1984, you said they had these ideas that they don't feel comfortable sharing with family and others. | ||
| What about if that's wrong thought? | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's wrong thought in 1984. | ||
| And look, the criticism of Gab is that, hey, Andrew's a great guy, but you've got white nationalists, you've got white supremacists, you've got Christian domination, you've got anti-semitic, you've got nativists, xenophobes, a whole witch's brew of marginalia. | ||
| that is out there on this platform. | ||
| How do you balance your thing of free speech and free thought with the criticism that you've allowed it to be, or at one point in time it was a hotbed of that? | ||
| Well, listen, I believe that sunlight is the best disinfectant, and I believe, as Rob Monster says from Epic, he says that sometimes you have to go through the swamp in order to discover the truth. | ||
| The truth is lying somewhere amidst the swamp, but If you block out the whole swamp, if you don't allow any conversation whatsoever outside of one ideological point of view, then you are going to get trapped in the globalist, elitist echo chamber that we see on the mainline internet right now. | ||
| If you exist outside of that, whether you're left, right, center, rich, poor, whatever, you're going to be punished for that. | ||
| So I think that shining a light on these things is the best way to maybe win some of those people over to our side and to Christ, for example, by sharing the gospel with them. | ||
| That's my best understanding of that, is that Christ hung around with sinners, and I think that in order to have freedom, you need to be willing to wade through the swamp, as Rob Monster says, uh... to get to the truth so it's it's it's free association right you don't have to associate with those people anybody that you don't like her you can block them you can you can you don't have to follow them you know that freedom of association is is just as important as freedom of speech if not more so uh... you know we have a free and open uh... public square | ||
| when i think i think the other thing that's really important is that like we have confidence in our ideas We have confidence in our ideas. | ||
| We have confidence in the idea that, you know, American citizens have liberties that come to them from God, and people are willing to get out there and we're willing to talk about that. | ||
| There's freedom of speech, freedom of expression. | ||
| We're willing to get out there and have those discussions with people because we have the confidence in our ideas. | ||
| Censorship is a sign of weakness. | ||
| Censorship is a sign of a lack of confidence. | ||
| When we go out there, we know that we can stand up and defend our ideas. | ||
| I want to go back and point out again, this is a thread that's been all through American history. | ||
| Benjamin Franklin started the public library. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Scariest thing to a tyrant is a free and educated citizen who is also connected to other citizens. | ||
| And that's why in the United States of America, de Tocqueville's talked about it perhaps most eloquently in our history, but people have always recognized. | ||
| Civil society, people come together. | ||
| So you get out, you educate yourself, and you connect with others, and there's power in that. | ||
| So Andrew, going forward, how are you going to try to balance that, you know, you said the sunlight, balance the sunlight versus, you know, if you get hit with more marginal people, right, or more of this kind of, I don't want to call it hate speech, but people are putting up these ideas that are not exactly productive. | ||
| How do you balance that? | ||
| So the balance is having a clear line in the sand. | ||
| And the clear line in the sand is no threats of violence, no illegal activity, no pornography, no spamming. | ||
| So, you know, having very clear guidelines that our community understands and having a decentralized moderation platform as well via GAB groups. | ||
| Most of the moderation is done by the community itself. | ||
| So we have, you know, tens of thousands of moderators across all the GAB groups that It's really a self-healing community, self-governing community. | ||
| And then as they see things that cross our clear line in the sand, which is illegal activity or threats of violence, they escalate it to us. | ||
| We escalate it to our legal team, who escalates it to law enforcement if need be. | ||
| I think having a very clear line in the sand is so crucial. | ||
| No illegal activity, no threats of violence. | ||
| These things are common sense. | ||
| uh... and we have that that minus and you're very up front about it and there's no ambiguity like with big text bob you know he speech clauses and guidelines uh... it depends on who's enforcing it said to what those things are we don't really have anything like that we had very clear lines in the senate and people respect that and uh... you know we can still have this open discussion and debate and we may come across ideas that we don't like for that make us feel uncomfortable or the challenge are thinking but this is all part of of the free and open discourse that we need to have | ||
| We can win some of those people over to our side if we have conversations with them. | ||
| If we let them fester either off the internet or in the local bar or whatever, they're never going to be exposed to other ideas, and those ideas that they have are just going to grow. | ||
| That was the power of Rush Limbaugh. | ||
| Rush Limbaugh converted so many moderates and liberals really to the conservative cause because he was able to communicate with them and listen. | ||
| Andrew, one of the reasons I think that I tell people you're one of the rising voices, it's not just about your ideas about subsidiarity, you know, the great Catholic concept of, you know, the best government is one that's closest to the people and how you really change American populism being so centralized to actually decent, you know, we've got to create millions of Donald Trump's right that are out there at the local level But you bring up a concept and we're one of things we pride ourselves here is getting nomenclature out there then we talk process and and statics and dynamics of | ||
| process and then critical path and people can start to get a mental map of how to start to comprehend what's about to happen This concept, we've got a couple minutes left, I want to talk about transhumanism. | ||
| You mention this a lot in your writings and your talk. | ||
| What do you mean when the audience is sitting there going, hey I'm following social media, I'm following Bannon on his economics, they're ranting and raving about the party of Davos right there. | ||
| Transhumanism is a new one. | ||
| So Andrew, and by the way, it is central to the thesis of what is going on with the globalists. | ||
| Walk through what is transhumanism in your mind and why do you continue to mention it? | ||
| So, you know, this goes back to the supremacy concept and the mindset that I was talking about earlier in the show, where these Silicon Valley elites, these oligarchs, this party of Davos, they believe that they are a superior race to the rest of us. | ||
| They unironically believe this. | ||
| So, you know, and this is the first thing that goes away with transhumanism is equality. | ||
| Because with transhumanism, what they're saying is they're modifying and liberating human beings from biology, right? | ||
| So they want to, you know, put chips in our brain, put chips in our wrists and modify the human body biologically by hacking our DNA and all sorts of things like this. | ||
| So that is transhumanism. | ||
| And obviously the reason that this is very dangerous is whoever controls the chips controls the minds of the people with the chips in them. So they want us to all be... we're now digital services, we still have our biological freedom, but they want to own us biologically as well. | ||
| This is not conspiracy theory and this is not wingnut talk, okay? | ||
| What you're seeing, the concept is called the singularity. | ||
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It's been talked about in scientific circles for about a decade. | |
| There's a great book called Homo Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari, I think you pronounce it. | ||
| Then he wrote another book called Homo Deus, right? | ||
| A Brief History of Tomorrow. | ||
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This is a book that everyone should get. | |
| It is essentially kind of a horror book. | ||
| It's absolutely brilliant, but you have to get this. | ||
| It's quite difficult to get there. | ||
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It's not easy. | |
| But it talks about that you're coming to the end of homo sapiens. | ||
| You're about to have something. | ||
| The singularity is when it all converges and you go beyond. | ||
| We know the Chinese Communist Party is actually working on this In the CCP, and there are many other experiments throughout the world that people don't know about, but the concept is there's something beyond man, and that beyond man is some sort of merger or some sort of connectivity to artificial intelligence, advanced chip design, whether it's biologically put in or other aspects. | ||
| This is actively going on and it's talked about ad nauseum, right? | ||
| It's talked about ad nauseum at the highest levels. | ||
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And this is just practical. | |
| This concept of transhumanism has to be put on the table. | ||
| I gave a speech in Rome three or four years ago to the brothers of Italy, a kind of a populist group, and I said, the reason I'm a populist is because I want to make sure, having come from Harvard and worked at Goldman Sachs, that the problems we have in globalization, that the people that made the decisions about globalization are not making the decisions about transhumanism. | ||
| Because that's the one that's coming, and because of advances in technology, it's not a hundred It's going to be in the living experience of people under 50 years old. | ||
| Andrew, how do people get to you? | ||
| We've got to pop. | ||
| How do people get to you, and how do people follow you, and how do people get to Gab? | ||
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We've got about 30 seconds. | |
| Gab.com, I'm at A, and just remember to speak freely, and Jesus is King, guys. | ||
| Amen, brother. | ||
| Andrew Torba, one of the rising generation of actually not just thinkers, but thinkers and doers. | ||
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That's what I love. | |
| He's doing it! | ||
| He's doing it! | ||
| That's why I love Greitens. | ||
| Greitens is a Navy SEAL commander, plus he's a Rhodes Scholar. | ||
| That's the complete package right there. | ||
| I love guys that both think and get it done. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Andrew Torba, thank you very much. | ||
| Everybody go to Gab. | ||
| Go to Gab today. | ||
| If you like it, sign up for it. | ||
| Become part of the Gab family. | ||
| I think you'll see it's an interesting, interesting sight, and it's on fire right now. | ||
| I think the President joined Gab. | ||
| I think the beatdown of Mitch the other day was posted up on Gab. | ||
| Very shocking. | ||
| Let Donald Trump get a social media platform, all hell's gonna break loose. | ||
| Okay, we take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're talking about one of the great figures of the 20th century, Winston Churchill. | ||
| Not so highly thought of in the 21st. | ||
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| Okay, we've had the passing of one of the great icons, cultural icons, in the United States. | ||
| Rush Limbaugh passed away yesterday. | ||
| We did an hour yesterday of commemoration, and we'll do more over the weekend. | ||
| We are going to get to Alexandra Priet, our Communications Director. | ||
| She's got some great stories about Rush, her involvement with him. | ||
| But I want to go to talk about, I think the BBC did a poll. | ||
| In 1999, leading up to the millennium, and it rated, I think ranked, Winston Churchill as the greatest Englishman of his country in the 20th century, right? | ||
| And you guys called it, you know, there's been this pressure that how bad Churchill is with world culture, but at Cambridge University, at Churchill College, Which was, I think, created in the 60s, maybe even right after he died or right around the time he died, where I happened to be honored to actually go with Rahim many, many years ago and give a talk at a conference. | ||
| And look, it's too modern architecture for me, given the rest of Cambridge, because Cambridge is stunning. | ||
| The Churchill College maybe not so much, but still a great spirit there. | ||
| They had a conference. | ||
| Where they're equating Winston Churchill with Adolf Hitler. | ||
| So, Rahim, you're joining us from the desert out in Arizona. | ||
| By the way, fabulous shot, Rahim. | ||
| You look so much happier than you are here on Capitol Hill. | ||
| Even when he has a Danish here in Washington, D.C., he doesn't have the same smile that he has there in the sunlight of Arizona. | ||
| Even a better smile than having a donut in your hand, which I should not be eating. | ||
| So, Rahim, walk us through I know you're out there for a big conference, going to give a speech, we'll talk more about that tomorrow, but to walk us through Churchill and woke culture now, they already painted the statues, they had to put coverings over them, now they've gone to his college in Cambridge and said that he's worse than Adolf Hitler, Mr. Rahim Kassam. | ||
| Yeah, by the way, there is a direct correlation between my distance from you and my happiness. | ||
| Yes, I know. | ||
| I look marvelous out here. | ||
| Yeah, that often happens. | ||
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| Look, the situation at Churchill College, we've got these three quite well-known Marxist academics. | ||
| These are people that the BBC puts up on television all the time, they're invited to panel discussion shows, and really they are the British equivalent of the 1619 Project. | ||
| Their job, as they see it, is to consistently undermine British history, consistently undermine what Britain is as a nation, what creates that nation, what goes to the fundamentals of that nation, how it was created. | ||
| And this latest foray is really the most brazen that they've tried so far. | ||
| This is an attempt to smear the legacy of Sir Winston Churchill, who, as you say, was voted not just pre-millennium as the top Britain of all time, but actually they've done subsequent studies and they've been subsequent polls ever since that that show time and time again that Sir Winston Churchill for most people in the country is still the number one Briton. But this woman, let's take her as an example, her name is Professor Priya | ||
| Gopal, she's actually a fellow at Churchill College in Cambridge and she gets on this live stream and they're talking about Churchill's racist views and why those views should mean that we have a totally different view of him in 2021 than we may have done 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. | ||
| The only trouble with Priya Gopal and her assertion is that Priya Gopal herself is a racist. | ||
| Last year, she tweeted, White Lives Don't Matter. | ||
| She also tweeted, Abolish Whiteness. | ||
| This is a person who is the daughter of a well-known Indian diplomat, has lived all around the world, has taught in the United Kingdom, in Vienna, has lived in Sri Lanka. | ||
| You know, a very well-privileged person. | ||
| And yet she can get away with tweeting, well, white lives don't matter, abolish whiteness and attacking Sir Winston Churchill in the same breath. | ||
| For her efforts, she was rewarded by her university. | ||
| She was defended by her university. | ||
| And she even made £25,000 out of the Daily Mail because they accidentally attributed an incorrect comment to her. | ||
| So her racism profits while she attacks the most popular Briton of all time. | ||
| Yeah, and I think it's also worth us just stepping back for a moment and thinking about who Winston Churchill was and what he did because, again, you look back with some pride. | ||
| It gives us a chance to look forward with some confidence here. | ||
| You look back at the history of Western civilization, the entire history of Western civilization. | ||
| There have been a few moments where individuals have stood and they've led and they've stood in the gap to preserve the entirety of Western civilization. | ||
| People might argue about King Leonidas at Thermopylae or they might argue about Miltiades at the Battle of Marathon, but there was a moment, people forget, where All through the 1930s, Winston Churchill was saying, we need to prepare for Hitler. | ||
| We need to be ready that a war is coming. | ||
| And he was hated. | ||
| He was demonized. | ||
| He was demonized by the press. | ||
| He was an outcast among the political elite at the time. | ||
| But he kept warning and he was right. | ||
| And people also forget there was a moment when the Germans, it was the Nazis and the Germans had actually taken France. | ||
| They'd taken Belgium. There was no hope at the time. | ||
| And what people were counseling to Churchill, they were counseling surrender. | ||
| They were counseling appeasement and he would not do it. He stood strong. | ||
| And this was before the United States gotten the war. | ||
| Yeah. Rahim in that point to Eric's point, it was the elites in Britain, the aristocracy, they were all to save the empire and to save particularly India. | ||
| Maybe we cut a deal with Hitler. | ||
| It was Churchill who had been in the wilderness and had working class, the same people that voted for Brexit. | ||
| And those working class labor districts in the Midlands are the same ones that backed Churchill. | ||
| Have people forgotten that, Rahim Kassam? | ||
| Well, in a lot of ways I think that's what this all goes back to. | ||
| These academics are actually quite mad that Churchill didn't want Britain subjugated. | ||
| They're quite upset that free society prevailed, that free thinking, free speech, free exercise of ideas, free religious practices prevailed. | ||
| They would have preferred, I suspect, whether Nazi, Communist, whatever, They would have preferred a more totalitarian approach to have prevailed in Europe in the last century. | ||
| And this is what this all comes down to. | ||
| It ties perfectly in with what we know about these academics on a free speech level. | ||
| It ties perfectly in what we know how these academics patrol their classrooms, teach their students. | ||
| They are mini dictators and mini tyrants. | ||
| So in a lot of ways, the history that Eric walks us through there is incredibly pertinent. | ||
| This will always be a battle. | ||
| Between people who yearn for freedom and people who yearn for subjugation. | ||
| And there's always been a contrast. | ||
| There's always been between the kind of media elites and your leftist intellectuals and the common man. | ||
| Winston Churchill, towards the end of World War II, 83% approval rating. | ||
| Of course, he'd led the country through war. | ||
| He'd preserved freedom. | ||
| He'd preserved civilization. | ||
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But he's relentlessly attacked in the media. | |
| He's relentlessly attacked by the press. | ||
| Right, so because he was connected to the common person, he was connected to families, he was connected to what mattered to those citizens, and so he was attacked. | ||
| How has this been received since it came from a fellow at Churchill College, from Churchill College at Cambridge, how has the British elite and the British elite media The key to Churchill is the years in the wilderness when he was mocked and ridiculed. | ||
| There was actually an industry to destroy Churchill and to mock and ridicule him, and to destroy him that way. | ||
| Turned out he was right. | ||
| How has it been accepted by the woke British elite today, Rahim? | ||
| Well, some of the parallels there between Churchill and Trump were just extraordinary, just the industry that was around them in terms of destroying them and heckling them and targeting them and keeping them away from the reins of power. | ||
| I'll mention this very quickly in that same sentence, that the House Democrats right now, by the way, are drafting legislation, I believe it's even complete, legislation to ban President Trump. | ||
| sorry they don't say president Trump, they say any president impeached twice from being buried at Arlington National Cemetery and getting a retirement and the benefits of retirement out of the US government. | ||
| That's the same kind of derangement syndrome that gripped a lot of the British political establishments. | ||
| Remember. | ||
| But hang on, hang on. | ||
| I think you got a point. | ||
| We've got a National Pulse story. | ||
| It's just breaking. | ||
| Let people know what they're doing. | ||
| You know, everything that President Trump's done for the economy, for standing up to China, all of that. | ||
| What are the Democrats, and they're dropping this massive amnesty bill, right? | ||
| They still haven't got the COVID thing passed. | ||
| The economy, the jobless rate today shocked people, right? | ||
| You don't get a straight story out of Biden, these guys, on the school openings, on the vaccine rollouts. | ||
| There's a report today one-third of the military Hey, saying, hey, I got to really think through this this vaccine. | ||
| Don't know if I want it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So with all this going on and just more chaos and more double talk and more spin and no direct like DeSantis sitting there go, here's how we open the schools. | ||
| Bang, bang, bang. | ||
| None of that from the Democrats. | ||
| And Biden's not even home. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Walk through the National Pulse story. | ||
| What are they spending their time on today about Donald Trump, Rahim Ghassan? | ||
| Yeah, this is the bill that's just come out of House Democrats today. | ||
| I think we've got it up on the national pulse right now in our breaking news section. | ||
| And what it shows is it's not just one congressman who's written this bill to remove all of the ability for Donald Trump to have the same benefits and privileges that every other American president has had. | ||
| In his retirement, in his later years, whatever he wants to do, whenever he wants to leave politics, and of course, indeed, the ability to be buried at Arlington National Cemetery, if that's what he wants. | ||
| They've actually drafted a bill. | ||
| I think it was eight congressmen who came together and have drafted this bill. | ||
| And of course, the language is suggestive. | ||
| It doesn't say, barring President Donald Trump. | ||
| It actually says, it's called, I think, the No Glory for Hate Bill. | ||
| And it says, any president who's been impeached Twice should not receive any of these things that all presidents have ever received. | ||
| Steve, this is at a time when the latest reports suggest that they've put so much pork into this new COVID plan that they're way over the two trillion now, then they're now going to have to spend another week paring it back. | ||
| And we're not looking for a vote on this for another 10 days. | ||
| Quinnipiac, you guys, Quinnipiac's poll comes out today, I think Biden's approves at 49%. | ||
| The other poll they have up on the Hill, I had a poll this morning, has them 50% ahead, I think. | ||
| At the same point in time, Obama at 62, I think Trump at 57. | ||
| Biden at 50, and then Quinnipiac's got it at 49. | ||
| He has no political capital. | ||
| Number one, he's not legitimate. | ||
| I'm sorry that MSNBC, CNN, and Media Matters doesn't like that. | ||
| He's not legitimate. | ||
| American people know this. | ||
| You're seeing the phoniness. | ||
| And now the focus is on hatin' on Trump. | ||
| Instead of getting on with it, right? | ||
| And they talk about no glory for hate. | ||
| Talk about the working class Hispanics in the Rio Grande Valley. | ||
| See if they thought it was hate or it was protection for them as American citizens. | ||
| Ask them. | ||
| Ask the people that didn't die, right? | ||
| Because of jihadist attacks. | ||
| Because we actually shut down and made it tougher for jihadists to get in the country. | ||
| No terrorist attacks in those four years. | ||
| Was that hate? | ||
| Was that hate? | ||
| Or was that being sensible and thinking about the protection of A class that should be a protected class, the American citizens, the citizens of this country. | ||
| Raheem, we've got to pop. | ||
| You've got your speech coming up. | ||
| People are still going to be able to get to you, follow you on all the social media platforms. | ||
| You'll be out there, and I know National Pulse is still hitting all your marks. | ||
| Yes, we've got a bunch of amazing stories coming up today, and I will be doing a podcast later on today. | ||
| It's TheNationalPulse.com. | ||
| That podcast is on fire. | ||
| Raheem, thank you very much for joining us out in the beautiful desert of Arizona. | ||
| Let me make one very quick point about those polls. | ||
| Every single one of these polls also had Biden inflated. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| So these are the same polls that had a winning Wisconsin by 19 points, alright? | ||
| And now, even by their best polls, these Biden-favorable polls, have them at 49 and 50. | ||
| So, once he gets down, you know the law of political physics, once he gets down to the low 40s, mid 40s, low 40s, with no political capital, you're not going to be able to jam through these type of massive bills. | ||
| Well, look, the fact is that even people, even the unions are actually saying, we've got to get Biden, Biden's hurting us. | ||
| We're coming back to Alexander Priyat and Eric Greitens. | ||
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| Okay, from the beautiful desert of Arizona now to the snowy and icy confines of occupied Washington, D.C., which we're going to start raising holy hell about why this occupation is outrageous. | ||
| Eric Greitens has been there. | ||
| He's deployed so many times as a Navy SEAL commander, and he knows what the troops have to go through. | ||
| Now he's sitting out here in freezing rain, snow, sleet. | ||
| It's just unacceptable. | ||
| If there's a threat, no problem. | ||
| But on Inauguration Day, they had more troops here than Lincoln had On March 4th, 1861, of which we had a shooting war, a kinetic war started six weeks later, and already I think five or six states have seceded from the Union. | ||
| You had more troops here now. | ||
| It's complete nonsense. | ||
| They have to show the details. | ||
| We've got a positive story about Rush Limbaugh that now we're going to go to. | ||
| Alexander Preate. | ||
| Alexandra, you're a communications spouse. | ||
| Tell us about the time you got so worked up listening to Rush, because I know your dad's one of the great politicians in Pennsylvania, and you were dragged around to meetings when you were three and four years old. | ||
| You like Dela Ruzzi. | ||
| You like the woman who's the secretary of the government in New York that's now in the middle of that firestorm. | ||
| Tell about the time you got so motivated, so worked up, and so mad you called Rush Limbaugh. | ||
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Oh, I just, you know, I'm a huge fan of Rush and have listened for years and years. | |
| And as you said, I've been dragged around. | ||
| If you blindfolded me and put me in a church basement and took the blindfolds off, I could tell you it was St. | ||
| Mary's or, you know, St. | ||
| Margaret's. | ||
| But So I got so mad one day in New York, I can't now I can't remember the title. | ||
| All I can remember is I called and I got through and you know, you almost want to drop the phone and hang up. | ||
| Because you're like, Oh, now I actually have to say something smart. | ||
| So you get Bo Snurkley, who was fantastic. | ||
| And he asked these questions, you get on. | ||
| And I remember my dad reminded me that I had said that I was a pro-life conservative in Manhattan, one of very few. | ||
| And I was working for the late, great Faith Whittlesey. | ||
| The ambassador was actually friends with Rush. | ||
| She didn't know I was calling on her dime. | ||
| And so I got on the call and he held me over for the break. | ||
| And, you know, afterwards I was floating on cloud nine. | ||
| I mean, it's just amazing. | ||
| People have to understand, in Rush, being held over the break as a caller, Was the equivalent of Carson when the young comedians came out and said, come over and sit on the sofa. | ||
| That was like what you had to say was, I'm not punching out the phone. | ||
| That was like, hey, what you have to say is very important. | ||
| I want to hold it over and go into the more. | ||
| So when you came back for the break, were you any less nervous or how did the call in? | ||
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Never, of course, never. | |
| And, you know, I can't remember if I said something smart, but maybe he was just shocked that there was a pro-life woman in Manhattan. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But it was really great. | ||
| And, um, I think forever. | ||
| Noon will always be in my mind as the hour. | ||
| Noon to three will be Rush Limbaugh's time in my mind. | ||
| And I think it's just we can never forget his impact. | ||
| And I think the you know losing Roger Ailes and then Rush Limbaugh is changing of the guard. | ||
| And so I think like what Andrew said earlier, it's really up to grassroots now for people to come back together, do news in your own communities, get active in your own communities. | ||
| The local part is really going to be what brings people back together, that even Democrats that agree with Republicans on many issues, Unbelievable. | ||
| may not know many of the facts and what the bills actually entail. | ||
| So I think that's the lesson from Rush Limbaugh is hard work, dedication, commitment to excellence. | ||
| He was on the show two weeks ago and he died two weeks later. | ||
| That's how much pain somebody is in. | ||
| And you know, one breaking news story is that Bob Dole has said that he has stage four lung cancer as well, a bronze star, Purple Heart, World War II veteran, 97 years old. | ||
| Talk about... 10th Mountain Division, Italy. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| It is tough. | ||
| Fighter. | ||
| So, Alexandra, thank you very much for sharing this, and I think the message is, the greatness of Rush Limbaugh, it's incumbent upon his audience and everybody that knew him and loved him to push that forward, just like Andrew Breitbart. | ||
| These guys are not replaceable. | ||
| Breitbart was not replaceable, and Rush Limbaugh is not replaceable, but it doesn't mean you don't go on and you've got to sit there, and what he did for the country is much more than talk radio. | ||
| This was a cultural icon that in a moment between Reagan and Trump was that bridge. | ||
| He was that bridge. | ||
| Not the politician and elected officials. | ||
| It was Rush Limbaugh from Ronald Reagan to Donald Trump. | ||
| So, Alexander, thank you so much for hanging out and giving us a positive, letting us finish with a positive story with Rush Limbaugh. | ||
| I want to thank you so much. | ||
| One of the important things about what Alexandra was pointing to in her story there is about heart. | ||
| Because one of the things that we have to make sure that we do as conservatives in the MAGA movement is to always demonstrate that we do this and we drive because we care about people. | ||
| It is rooted in compassion. | ||
| It's about protecting those working class families and making sure that we're protecting them. | ||
| It's about protecting our kids, making sure that we're keeping them safe. | ||
| It's about safer streets. | ||
| It's about better schools. | ||
| It's about doing things that are going to matter to people and making sure that we're leading with that. | ||
| And we also have to, not just win the intellectual argument, not just win the historical argument, but also point out the left's heartlessness. | ||
| Okay, you look at what Biden is doing around schools, keeping schools closed for kids in kindergarten, first grade, second grade, and as anybody can tell you, the kids who are being hurt the worst are the working class kids. | ||
| They just announced today, I think it's New York City, don't quote me on the exact number, but I think it's New York City's had more suicides already this year. | ||
| From school children, then they had this this whole issue about suicides of kids because of this feeling they're not in school They're not learning. They're not around their their their their their posse right and sometimes they're in bad situations at home Yes, this is what's in the mental health visits to emergency rooms from kids skyrocketing across the country Why because you have an administration that's putting leftist priorities ahead of the American people a lot of these kids They go to school That's the only place where they've got a teacher or a | ||
| coach who loves them who mentors them who takes care of them Right and and what are you hearing from the left San Francisco was supposed to open their schools You want to see where the left has taken us? | ||
| They had a closed-door meeting to talk about all of these schools that they need to rename because they need to rename you can't have It named after Abraham Lincoln anymore More, but they're not talking about opening schools for kids. | ||
| Because that's a high priority. | ||
| That's a high priority. | ||
| Let's rename the schools. | ||
| Let's get the cultural wokeness up there before you open them. | ||
| Okay, Rahim said he's going to have a podcast up later today. | ||
| His podcast is on fire. | ||
| We'll be back at 5. | ||
| Dr. Shiva from MIT is going to join us. | ||
| He's got breaking news. | ||
| But remember, there's a revolt going in Arizona right now. | ||
| They're recalling Ducey. | ||
| They're recalling Maricopa County. | ||
| They're fighting down in Georgia. | ||
| There's still court cases all over. | ||
| The Supreme Court is going to judge next week about taking these cases forward. | ||
| Dr. Shiva from MIT has got a couple of cases on the voter fraud up in Massachusetts. | ||
| He's going to get us up to speed on it today, plus everything about the amnesty bill, all the breaking news. | ||
| We'll be back at five and then another big show on Saturday. | ||
| At least an hour special, maybe two hour special on the Saturday Show about this whole thing of the focus of the radical left on the Christian community in the United States. | ||
| Also going to have Rabbi Sparrow, hopefully tomorrow, lead us in prayer to start the show off his book, Pushback. | ||
| Eric, thank you very much for coming on. | ||
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| Appreciate it. |
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