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unidentified
The virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Hello, everyone.
I know that I am most certainly not the Limbaugh that you tuned in to listen to today.
I, like you, very much wish Rush was behind this golden microphone right now, welcoming you to another exceptional three hours of broadcasting.
For over 32 years, Rush has cherished you, his loyal audience, and always looked forward to every single show.
It is with profound sadness I must share with you directly that our beloved Rush, my wonderful husband, passed away this morning due to complications from lung cancer.
As so many of you know, losing a loved one is terribly difficult.
Even more so when that loved one is larger than life.
Rush will forever be the greatest of all time.
Rush was an extraordinary man.
A gentle giant.
Brilliant.
Quick-witted.
Genuinely kind.
Extremely generous, passionate, courageous, and the hardest working person I know.
I don't think people realize how close we came to becoming what you just described.
You go back to the eight years of Obama, what was the economic message?
That America's best days are behind us.
That much of what we had accomplished was illegitimate because our founding was unjust and we had pilfered other countries.
We were now a nation in decline and we had to have responsible leadership to manage the decline.
And that your kids may be the first not to economically perform better than their parents.
They were setting us up for this.
Had Hillary Clinton won, that would have been the permanent America.
And this is exactly what these globalists have been talking about.
They need an America in decline to get rid of the whole concept of nation-state.
So Trump is up against a coalition of powers that people can't possibly even imagine.
You're right.
When you warn about how crucial this is at this time.
steve bannon
This is the heart of it.
This is politics of personal destruction.
They are out to not defeat Trump.
They're out to destroy Trump.
Because they understand Trump gives the voiceless, silent majority.
Not in the room, not in the deal.
And Donald Trump not only puts you in the room, he's your spokesman.
What the established order does not want They do not want the silent majority of the American people to have a voice.
They wanted to pay taxes, they wanted to send their kids into the military, and they wanted to keep their mouths shut.
unidentified
President Trump, are you with me?
I am, and it was a great honor to do so when we gave the Medal of Freedom.
It was something special.
It was an incredible night.
We gave it during the State of the Union Address, and it was especially half the room.
Half the room went crazy, and the other half the room They knew he should get it.
But it was special, and he was special.
Mr. President, thank you for joining us.
When was the last time you spoke with Rush Limbaugh?
Three or four days ago.
I called him just to find out.
His fight was very, very courageous, and he was very, very sick.
From diagnosis on, it was just something that was not going to be beaten, but you wouldn't know it.
He is married to an incredible woman, Catherine, who really, every time I spoke to him, he would tell me how great she was.
She took such great care.
He was very brave.
I mean, he, in theory, could have been gone four months ago, really.
He was fighting till the very end.
He was a fighter.
While you were in the White House, how did you view how he either carried on your message or chose to agree or disagree with the policies you had as Commander-in-Chief?
Well, first of all, you know, you just had Sean on, Sean Hannity, who's incredible.
And Sean would say there is nobody like Rush.
Sean was the first to say that he I used to say, well, what do you think someday?
And he'd say, he's irreplaceable.
Rush is irreplaceable.
Unique.
He had an audience that was massive.
And, you know, he could do something, Bill, and he would get up in the show and would just talk.
He wouldn't take phone calls where, you know, people would call in every two minutes and that's sort of easy to do.
He would just talk for two hours and three hours.
Just talk.
And that's not an easy thing to do.
And I once asked him, I said, do you study for the show?
And he said, actually, I study very hard, which which a little bit, Harris, that a little bit surprised me.
But but he was a fantastic man, a fantastic talent.
And people, whether they loved him or not, they respected him.
They really did.
steve bannon
Welcome.
unidentified
This is the 41st day of the occupation.
steve bannon
We've got a new graphic up there.
Live from the nation's capital, the occupied nation's capital, on its 41st day of occupation.
You're in the war room.
Very sad day throughout the country.
Wednesday, the 17th of February, the year of our Lord 2021.
It's Ash Wednesday, and we've had the passing of one of the all-time greats, not just for radio, for media, as people are talking about, But this country, this is an individual that changed the arc of history in this country virtually single-handed.
That would be Rush Limbaugh.
You heard the voice of Catherine Adams Limbaugh, his wife, beloved wife, that announced today at the Golden Microphone down in Palm Beach that Rush Limbaugh had passed away.
Then you had I was interviewed by Rush actually for his, he put a newsletter out.
I think once a month he would interview somebody.
Once a quarter he would interview someone.
That was from October of 2019, just about the time we started the War Room.
And Rush, we had an hour interview about China and the CCP and obviously the coming election.
And of course, President Trump on his very gracious Remembrance of Rush.
He called in, I think, to Fox today.
Talked to Bill Hemmer and the staff over there.
So it's a day.
And I want to make a comment about Rush being prepared, you know.
Not just easy to talk to the microphone when you don't have guests, you don't have callers.
He would take callers, but I mean principally it was Rush.
His dialogues or his monologues, discussions with the American people.
He told me one time, I think it was two or three hours of preparation for every hour on air.
This is an incredibly well read, incredibly prepared individual.
So we're going to take the entire hour.
In memory of Rush Limbaugh.
We've got a lot of special stuff.
We've got different cuts of interviews we've done, and we've got Rudy Giuliani, who was Rush's friend and golf partner for 31 years.
You know, a bunch of stories.
Peter Navarro, Alexander Priet, who actually was a caller, a comms director, was a caller to his show many years ago.
We'll get all that.
I want to start with John Fredericks.
Is John Fredericks up?
So John, you're in this profession.
You've actually built out a, building out a radio network.
What is your, tell us about your thoughts about Rush Limbaugh and about today on Ash Wednesday, the year 2021 that Rush Limbaugh passes away.
unidentified
Broken heart.
It's the first thing that comes to mind.
You know, Rush Limbaugh was a trailblazer in the business.
When he first started, there was no talk radio.
It didn't exist.
There was news, there was music, there was disc jockey.
It was baseball games.
That's what you grew up with.
This is before the internet.
I can remember in Atlanta as a very, as a young man in my thirties, um, going to lunch and we'd have to find where they had the rush rooms.
This is before internet radio or anything of that nature where you would go in and they'd serve you a hamburger and potato chips.
And the Rush Limbaugh show was playing on the speakers on some AM radio station.
I remember driving.
To Florida on vacation with my family and the kids in the car.
And there was back then, of course, you couldn't just tune it in.
So you'd be, you'd have him on going out of your area and then you'd get out of range.
And he was saying something, we were like, oh my goodness, we can't get him.
What do we do?
We'd be hitting the dial and the buttons, trying to find him.
And then you'd get to Florida and then you'd have to find a new button because he would go in and out depending on the station that he was in.
And sometimes you'd hit an area he was not on and you were like, oh my God.
So, you know, and back then when he started, Talk about trailblazing.
He did take some calls.
He had, I think, open line Friday.
But you really, you would wait.
It was almost like William F. Buckley, Steve.
Remember William F. Buckley?
I remember my father, who was a blue-collar worker, would wait to draw a conclusion until he read the Buckley column that came out three days after.
Some things would happen and you, before you formulated a snap judgment, you would wait To see what Rush Limbaugh had to say.
That was the amount of respect for his judgment and his insight that people had.
Plus he was funny and he was entertaining, so we got all that going.
But I know that you remember this.
There were times where things that would go on, especially in the Republican Party, and you would really be hanging on every word.
It's like, what does Rush think about this?
And he drove a lot of opinion.
He formulated a lot of opinion.
He motivated a lot of people.
And in our business, I mean, he was the ultimate inspiration.
I mean, I remember starting out, and I stutter, everybody knows that, so I'm the last person to be on the radio.
When I was a young man, I couldn't answer the phone, I couldn't say hello.
And so I couldn't get through, I couldn't get through anything.
And so I remember when I first got on, you know, listening to him in a different way, not for the content, but exactly how he did, his pauses, his phrases, how he dealt with callers.
And that became everybody's model to go forward because he was the trailblazer, Steven, the pioneer.
steve bannon
Yeah, even more than in broadcasting, he was really the link between Reagan and Trump.
He was kind of the intellectual bridge between those two and what he did for this country and really turned – if you go and talk to so many people.
Who were moderates, or liberals, or people who just didn't pay attention to politics, and they listened to this guy.
And the special thing I think he had for accessibility, because Buckley is not particularly accessible, and I love William Buckley, but William F. Buckley is not particularly accessible.
It was his humor.
He understood sports, and he was absolutely very funny, and he knew how to use comedic techniques, or the way he would tell stories.
And a very engaging and that and then talking about conservatism, talking about the right.
Of course, The Huffington Post got a headline right wing radio.
He was definitely not right wing.
He was he was a conservative, but definitely not right wing.
And, you know, Andrew Breitbart.
Andrew was a came out of Tulane, was driving scripts around the west side of L.A.
to the movie, different studios, production houses as a script guy.
And his father-in-law, Orson Bean, Who had been a super liberal progressive, had flipped over because of Rush Limbaugh and said, Andrew, cut the music off, start listening to Rush Limbaugh.
That's what turned Andrew Breitbart.
Andrew Breitbart was basically a liberal progressive from the west side of LA.
Any other thoughts?
We're going to bounce here, but it's a very special day.
And I got to tell you, the one thing at the end was he was diagnosed, I think, in January.
He once again showed his toughness and his courage.
Virtually every day he was at the microphone.
I mean, he would take some days off, but you know how tough that had to be, John.
Just doing the job, but then in the kind of pain he was, and what he was doing to go through to fight this.
It had to be incredibly tough.
unidentified
What he taught me about the business is you really do build a one-on-one relationship with your listeners.
And when you're not there, you're not part of their day, you're not part of their routine, and you're missed.
And so it's a place to go on Talk Radio where you're part of their family, you're part of their day.
And that relationship is, that's what makes Talk Radio so unique.
It's not like TV where you've got millions of viewers and you're staring at a camera.
You know, you're on the radio, you're talking to one person at a time.
You could have a million listeners, apps, and all the things that we have today, Steve.
But you're talking to one person at a time.
It's a personal relationship of medium that is very different.
And he was the one that pioneered that, how to have a relationship.
Thank you for having me, Steve.
steve bannon
Cannot be replaced.
John Fredericks, thank you for your thoughts down there in Atlanta, building the John Fredericks Radio Network empire.
Thank you so much.
We're gonna take a short commercial break.
We've got Alexander Priate, our communications director, her thoughts on Rush Limbaugh.
Peter Navarro.
Assistant to the President.
We've got Boris Epstein and Rudy, who was a friend of his for 31 years.
We're going to tell some stories when we return on a special Rush Limbaugh commemoration on War Room Pandemic.
unidentified
War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Because the forces are all out there aligned against him.
It's very obvious who he's fighting against.
And that's why I tell people, we have to rally to this cause even bigger than we did in 16.
It's going to be tougher because this is not going to be a persuasion election.
This election is about mobilization.
We see how the left can mobilize.
In 18, they did a terrific job in these house races, right?
If we don't match this door by door, you know, you know, person by person, In these communities, not in 30-second TV ads, but knocking on doors and telling people, hey, here's what you've got to do to get the vote out.
We're going to lose.
If we support Trump, and we do the ground game, and people put their shoulder to the wheel, and if they take the lessons they're learning from AM talk radio, from these conservative talk hosts, and people like yourselves, and say, I'm going to apply this now into life, and I'm going to get involved in the Trump campaign, we're going to win.
And I think we could win.
As big a victory as President Reagan in his second term, but if we do not grind this out every day, and it's going to be the nasty, this will be the nastiest campaign I believe rushed since 1860.
I think this thing is going to be nasty, it's going to be personal, and it's going to be a heavyweight title fight.
unidentified
Well, all of that, by the way, is brilliantly stated, and that could be a half a page pull quote.
But one political question before we wrap it up, and that is, in a traditional election you've got supposedly 40% committed to one side and 40% to the other, and you've got the 20% undecided in the middle.
Is that formula applicable to 2020 or is that out the window?
What's this election going to be about?
Mobilizing and maintaining the base and growing it?
Is it going to be about picking off Democrat voters that are ticked off about things?
What's it going to be?
How do you put shoulder to the wheel?
How does that manifest itself in terms of votes?
donald j trump
Beloved by millions of Americans who just received a stage 4 advanced cancer diagnosis.
This is not good news.
But what is good news is that he is the greatest fighter and winner that you will ever meet.
Rush Limbaugh, in recognition of all that you have done for our nation, the millions of people a day that you speak to and that you inspire, and all of the incredible work that you have done for charity, I am proud to announce tonight that you will be receiving our country's highest Civilian honor.
the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
unidentified
Thank you, Robert.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Of course, Catherine Adams Limbaugh, his beloved wife, next to him in the First Lady.
Rush Limbaugh getting the Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian honor you can give.
We've got assistant to the President, Peter Navarro with us, and of course, Alexandra Priet.
Our comms director.
First off, the beginning part of that is part of that hour interview I did with Rush back in October 19, where he had a very strong sense of what it was going to take for Trump to win.
We spent about an hour talking about China, as he referred to it, the Chai comms, and about the 2020, upcoming 2020 election.
Peter Navarro, very moving ceremony, very moving part of the State of the Union when he was awarded that shortly after he was diagnosed with this cancer.
peter navarro
Steve, I remember that night like it was yesterday.
I was watching and literally started to get goosebumps as this began to unfold.
Rush is sitting there with the beautiful Melania.
For your radio audience, I have the picture.
Behind me and it's just it's just gorgeous, but it I was thinking to myself as I'm watching it.
It's like the incredible theatricality of Donald J. Trump at the same time that his his warm heart.
I mean people don't understand about Donald J. Trump how much he cares for people and I've seen this whether it's it's a personality like Rush Limbaugh or whether it's it's a cook in the kitchen.
He has a way of really Taking care of people.
That night was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen.
At the same time, it was one of the most perfect trolling of the Democrats as well.
So it was not without humor and it wasn't lost on rush.
And if you watch that clip really carefully that you just played, what I was watching was Nancy Pelosi because she was having none of it.
You know, Rush, let's be clear about Rush's contribution.
There's two people that the conservative movement really owes the whole history to.
Roger Ailes for TV, but Rush Limbaugh for talk radio.
He basically invented the genre, and I always found it interesting.
There was a guy, when I lived in San Diego, there was a guy, Roger Hedgecock, who would sometimes Subbed for Rush.
Others would sub for Rush.
And whenever anybody subbed for Rush, you kind of understood just how great Rush, no matter how good these people were, Rush just operated on a different plane.
He had the voice, the mind, and everything in between.
Just a perfect way of doing it.
And radio's hard.
I've done my fair share of three-hour guest hosts and things like that.
I mean, I come in here, we'll do like 10 minutes with Bannon.
That's like a walk in the park.
Three hours of radio every day without guests, mind you.
So, that's what I have to say.
I want to turn it over to Priyad because she has some real personal memories.
But that night was perfect.
And Rush, I think generally from the bottom of his heart and the tears that came out of his eyes, really, that was a beautiful moment for this country.
For this country.
steve bannon
I love, by the way, I love your graphics.
Your backgrounds are getting better and better.
They're all amazing, but this one is particularly for our podcast audience.
It's a close-up shot of what happened.
Hang on for one second, Peter.
I want to bring in Alexander Priate.
Alexander, you're a communications specialist, probably one of the best around, or at least in the top two or three.
Talk about the time you called in, though.
Talk about when you called into the Rush Show and you were picked up as a caller.
unidentified
He was done for charity. I am proud to be a citizen.
steve bannon
We've lost her.
It's not working, so we've got to... I want to go back to Navarro.
We have her?
Alexandra?
unidentified
Yep.
steve bannon
Okay, fine.
We didn't hear you from the beginning, so start over again when you called in.
unidentified
I'm a major ditto head.
I've been listening to Rush Limbaugh since I was in college.
And in Maharashi, the EIB network was my solar system.
That set the day for me.
Noon was my time.
I would, everything around my whole day would be focused on when Rush Limbaugh was on the radio.
Like John Frederick said, back then there wasn't like the internet.
You didn't know where you were going to be.
If you were traveling, you had to find out a place to listen to Rush.
And I grew up in politics.
So I've met thousands of people on the campaign trail.
I've spoken at dinners with hundreds and hundreds of people, but Rush Limbaugh could make me nervous in about 10 seconds.
So I never got up the, to call the show, and so one day I was so angry.
I was working for the great ambassador, Faith Whittlesey in New York City, and I called and my father, a recovering politician, reminded me that I had told him that I was probably one of the only few pro-life women in Manhattan, and he held me over for the break.
So, you know, for a rush person, if he holds you over to the break, that's like the crowning glory.
steve bannon
Now, it could be that he- Hold on, that's like Johnny Carson asking the young comedians to come to the sofa.
I mean, hold it, Rush Limbaugh to hold you over a break was a big deal.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
So I was just an honor and never missed listening to his show.
I had the great pleasure to meet him through Jack Fowler at National Review, who's a dear friend of his, and do some work that involved Rush Limbaugh.
In fact, he gave a very large contribution to a veterans charity that I was helping.
And he said, I don't want any recognition at all.
Um, which was profound and I think a lot of people say that, but the thing about Rush is I think he was the, before Trump, he was the person that took more arrows and more attacks than anybody.
And frankly, he's, to say he's a leader would be, or radio host would be something too small.
I mean, he was really almost frankly, like the president for us in the opposition party.
Yeah.
When, when, when everything was down.
steve bannon
He was the bridge between Reagan and Trump.
Hang on, we're going to keep you over.
Rudy's going to join us.
We've got Boris Epstein.
Peter, we've got about 30 seconds.
Any closing comments on Rush Limbaugh before we lose you?
peter navarro
It's going to be impossible to replace Rush Limbaugh at a time when we need Rush Limbaugh more than ever as we go into 2022 and 2024.
I think that he'll be turning over in his grave, unfortunately, as the Biden regime unfolds.
So we need to stay strong.
unidentified
But Rush, God be with you.
steve bannon
Peter Navarro, Assistant to the President, thank you very much.
Peter, OK, we're going to take a short break.
We've got Rudy Giuliani, a very close and dear friend of Rush Limbaugh's, and a golfing buddy for over 31 years.
And he was there when Rush first showed up to WABC in New York City.
Also Boris Epstein, who's a New York City guy.
They're going to talk to us about Rush, comments, analysis, thoughts, observations.
Take a short commercial break.
We're going to return with a special with Alexander Priyate, my co-host.
A special in commemoration of the memory, the living memory I might say, of Rush Limbaugh.
unidentified
Back in a second.
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
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steve bannon
As the jobs move from Ohio and Michigan and Pennsylvania to East Asia, what they've been doing is flooding the zone with opioids to these workers.
That's why tariffs are not just simply about taxes on goods.
Tariffs are about dignity and self-respect of our workers.
unidentified
If you go and look at the American car market, you'll see that the American car market is not just about taxes on goods.
steve bannon
It's about dignity and self-respect of our workers.
It's about dignity and self-respect of our workers.
We're going to get the right one and play it in a second.
I want to go to Boris Epstein.
This is our commemoration of Rush Limbaugh.
You're live in the War Room from Occupy, the 41st day of our occupation here in Washington, D.C.
Still got 7,000, I think, troops, National Guard troops.
It's Ash Wednesday, the 17th of February, the year of our Lord, 2021.
Besides being Ash Wednesday, additionally, it's a very sad day.
The passing of one of the most significant people in American history.
I don't think there's any way to describe it.
It's not a talk radio host.
It's not just a guy on the radio.
He was really the bridge, the link in conservatism between, and really populism for the little guy, middle class, between Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump.
That was the bridge.
Boris Epstein, you've known and followed Rush for many, many years.
Give us your thoughts.
unidentified
Yes.
A sad day in America, Steve.
Great to be with you on this day.
An honor to be with the MAGA Brain Trust, as always.
A sad day in America.
You know, sadly, we're getting used to loss, right?
As all of us, you know, with every day, every month, every year, we don't get any younger.
And then we have loss in our families.
We have loss among our friends, sadly, terribly.
And then we have loss, you know, in public life just this week, and we lost Curtis Ellis, who was a big part of our campaign on 2016 and worked closely with me in terms of getting talking points out to surrogates.
And then to lose Rush Limbaugh, it really struck home with me.
You know, it was not another, oh, you know, well, a celebrity passes away.
This is somebody who truly spoke to the forgotten man and woman, to the forgotten Americans, who spoke to people, who related to people.
a cigar smoker, I'm a cigar smoker, somebody you know you read interviews with him and a cigar aficionado and other outlets, other magazines, a real human being, right, somebody who related to people, somebody who spoke to people, somebody who was a true and honest, a real person, larger than life in a lot of ways, but a real person and somebody who treasured his connection with Americans, who was humble.
If you look at that video of him getting the Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian honor you can get in the United States, from President Trump and the First Lady Melania Trump, actually bestowing the honor upon Rush Limbaugh, he was in tears.
And this is somebody who was humble, who didn't have hubris.
It was just an honest, good man, and may he rest in peace.
It's a difficult day.
It's a difficult day, and let's be honest, it's been a difficult year.
It's been a difficult year, right about a year now since COVID started, a little more.
And if you look at what's happened in the last year, you know, the China virus, then the ludicrous election, the events of January 6th.
steve bannon
The steal.
unidentified
The steel, Joe Biden becoming president, you know, looking at the videos yesterday, watching that town hall, I think Peter Navarro hit it right on the head.
Rush Limbaugh would be extremely disappointed with where this country is headed and the leadership of this country.
And let's just juxtapose this for a second.
If you look at somebody like Rush Limbaugh and President Trump, who are true men, true leaders, mensches, as my people say.
steve bannon
But alpha males.
It's an alpha male versus your wandering uncle.
unidentified
Letting Kamala Harris call President Macron in France would be like she's the head of state.
Boris?
It's sad.
It's a sad day.
May he rest in peace.
So much love to Russia's family, to all of Russia's listeners.
You know, I've posted my thoughts.
We really did lose a giant.
That's what I said on social media.
We lost a giant in this country.
And by the way, to the haters, to those who are saying disgusting things on social media, may the worst of this world fall upon you.
Because you're the scum of the earth.
You're the scum of the earth.
And to those who are good people, all the best and God bless.
steve bannon
Boris, thank you very much.
What Boris was talking about, as you can tell, some of the people on the left are not exactly commemorating Rush Limbaugh.
Like I said, I might want to remind people, Andrew Breitbart, who was really a devotee of Rush's when he passed away, on Twitter, it was pretty tough to take, particularly for the family.
It was very brutal.
I want to bring in now Rudy Giuliani.
We've got Alexandria Priate, our Comms Director, our co-host here.
We're going to eventually get back to her and finish the story when she was a caller.
Do we have Rudy?
There's Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
So, Mayor, you've known Rush for, what, 31 years?
You knew him, actually, I think even before he moved to New York City, but you really got to know him when he was in New York City in the 90s, just starting out at WABC.
rudy giuliani
Late 80s and early 90s, you know, he and I shared as a mentor, Roger Ailes.
unidentified
Roger was the director of my campaign for mayor in 1989, and he was training Rush at the time.
and going over his radio show with him and helping him improve it.
He devoted about an hour or a day to Rush early in the morning.
So I would...
Okay, we just lost Rudy.
steve bannon
I tell you, let's try to reboot that.
Alexandra, I want to bring you in for a second.
We had a little technical problem there.
Pretty big scoop.
Roger Ailes is known for Fox, Alexandra.
Not a lot of people realize he was very, very close to Rush Limbaugh.
I think Rush had a show on Fox or in the CNBC channel early on, but I want to finish your story.
I want to finish your story, Alexandra, about when you called in, how nervous you were.
unidentified
Well, it's embarrassing to say because I don't remember the topic.
All I can remember is that he held me over and that I did get to mention that I was a conservative in New York City.
So it's a great honor, and as I said, I got to meet him.
But being on radio with Rush is like talking to the Pope for a Catholic, of which I'm one.
So it was it was he, you know, but you call and get both sternly.
And it's a very it was a humbling, honored position to make a phone call.
And there's wonderful people that call every day.
As you know, he gives away free gifts to people when they call.
Some people are down and out.
And he also takes calls from a lot of people who say they converted.
To become a ditto head, big time, big time.
steve bannon
You know, I want everybody in the live chat and everybody in Hashtag We're In Pandemic, give us your thoughts, your observations.
We want to hear what you have to say about Rush.
We're going to read some of those out tomorrow morning.
We're a little strapped for manpower around here.
We're trying to get Rudy back up as soon as Rudy gets back up.
Had a little technical problem.
Rudy's ready to go.
I want to ask you, Alexander, when you come back about the 2009 speech at CPAC, which people still talk about, when Rush was a very—oh, we lost Rudy again.
Remember that speech at CPAC?
For all the conservators out there, that was really a seminal moment.
Rush is a guy that doesn't really—you know, he's not a big socializer, right?
He doesn't go to a lot of events, so when he came to CPAC in 2009, Right after Obama, you know, beat John McCain and you had the financial crisis, people thought, man, the Republican, you know, where Bush and Cheney left the Republican Party is down and out.
You got, you know, the bottom's falling, the financial markets, the thing's just a complete mess, right?
We're still not out of Iraq.
And then he came to CPAC.
And he almost had this kind of like boyish enthusiasm on that stage, and the place was going absolutely, completely crazy.
Talk to us about your memories of that speech.
unidentified
Well, I remember when Rush came to CPAC, it's like the president come to CPAC.
No joke.
I mean, before there was Donald Trump, we had Rush Limbaugh, and he was always there.
During the Clinton years, as you pointed out, he was a steady, every single day you could listen to him.
And he'd give you insight that no one else would be saying.
Seriously, like you're talking to, you're listening to someone who was the leader of the movement.
He was like the president.
So when he came to CPAC, I mean, he brought the house down.
You could hear a pin drop.
I just I mean, if the time when he would ever give a speech, people would fight to get there.
As I said, I worked on a project with the great Jack Fowler.
And tables would sell out in 10 seconds if Rush Limbaugh was a name on an invitation.
He was the hottest person.
He was not a very, he was a private person.
Spent all of his outgoing hours on the radio.
So to see him in person was really the biggest opportunity that anybody had.
Very, very few.
Very, very infrequent.
steve bannon
I want to talk about his work ethic.
You know, it's not easy.
I can tell you, it's not easy to stand up here.
I do very little of it, right?
I mainly have guests.
In Breitbart in the old days, I took callers.
I do try to go on a rift every now and again, or a rant, as Dr. Fauci can tell you on YouTube and Twitter.
But to sit up there for three hours, basically when your show is you in a dialogue with the American people, don't think you just wing that, because you don't wing it.
Rudy just told us, when he first got there in the 90s, remember his break, he had done radio, he had been to Pittsburgh, Sacramento, other places.
He was getting a little traction in Sacramento.
They took a fly on him on WABC, which is still John Katzman TV station today, where Rudy is.
And, you know, it's always kind of been the railhead of what we consider talk radio, conservative talk, with KBC out and the West Coast.
And when Rush got that noon to three, That's when he really took off.
It became a national figure.
He would work, and this is what Rudy told me, Ailes would work with him for an hour every morning.
They would go through and work it.
I mean, Rush Limbaugh, I think he told me, I went and showed him my film, In the Face of Evil.
at his Placeana department right across from the Metropolitan Museum as you remember, Alexander, on, I forget which cross street, I think it was 72nd Street, the cross street, he had this beautiful apartment, I think he eventually moved to Florida for like 12 million bucks. Absolutely stunning. And, you know, he watched the entire film and got so engaged with it, he gave the poll quote, if we can get the box up there, yeah, in the face of the UAC.
He gave me the first poll quote, which guaranteed that he was going to sell a grunch.
This is in 2004.
This is right before the Republican convention.
He took time to actually watch.
He loved it so much, we actually watched pieces of it after that, and he was asking questions.
And this was just a giving.
I mean, he didn't know me from Adam, right?
We had bootstrapped the film, so it wasn't like we were going to have a big marketing budget.
to pay him. It was just the kind of guy, he just, he was fascinated by Reagan.
Reagan had just died, I think, in June of that year. Rush was a huge Reagan guy, and he was the bridge at the time, and he's the bridge between Reagan and Trump for the country, not just for talk radio. But he was just a giving individual. Go ahead.
unidentified
The thing that inspired me is he came from a successful family, but what he did, he did himself. He talked about being fired many times.
He talked about, you know, being in sports.
Loved the Pittsburgh Steelers.
I think that what I really, and on this day, Ash Wednesday, as a Catholic, what an honor it is if you're going to die on such a day, die on Ash Wednesday.
It's so beautiful for us as Catholics and hopefully all Christians and those who respect this religion.
But what I think is amazing is we cannot ever forget one person's life is very powerful.
We're all very important in God's creation, but this one person is Unbelievably impactful and I believe really in the history of America if it gets told at all.
Fairly.
He'll be a part of it like a president.
And he's touched that many people when people felt like there was no hope.
He was always realistic.
He saw the great threat that the left was placing on this country, but he was always optimistic and happy and funny.
He was so funny.
So I think the one thing I take away with this, because it's very hard for me as a person that's listened to him since I was in college, to be, to smile, frankly, because he felt like John Frederick said, like he was part of your life.
If each one of us needs to be the best we can be, whatever it is that God has given us, that's what we need to deliver every single day to our neighbors, to our community.
If we have a bigger platform like Rush or like you, we need to do the best we can and deliver that.
That's Rush Limbaugh.
He is, he's irreplaceable.
Steve, you're irreplaceable.
What you've done for the bottom... No, no, trust me.
steve bannon
Trust me.
I could be replaced.
I could easily be replaced tomorrow.
Rush is like Andrew Breitbart.
We've got to jump to commercial break.
Hang on.
We're going to take you over to commercial break.
We'll get you back.
Andrew Breitbart comes once a generation.
Rush Limbaugh comes once a century.
It's just a unique, a unique ability to merge all this together and have an accessible and funny connection to the American people.
Okay, we're gonna take a short commercial break.
We'll return with Alexander Prieto trying to get Rudy back on War Room Pandemic.
unidentified
War Room Pandemic with Stephen K Banham.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
We're back with our commemoration of Rush Limbaugh, his life.
I want to now go to Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
We got him on the phone, had a little technical problem.
Mayor, I want to go back to the early 90s when Rush came to New York City.
You were saying about Roger Ailes.
Did Roger Ailes really work with Rush?
unidentified
We did quite a bit.
I'd say two or three years.
I don't know if it was a business thing or a friendship thing, but Roger would spend a good deal of time in the morning, early in the morning, and they'd go over the monologue.
And after about two or three years, that kind of ended.
And it was really, sometimes I'd arrive when they were still finishing up, Cause I found it hilarious.
I mean, they were, if they had been on together, they'd have been quite a team.
I mean, it was almost like, you know, one of those, one of those comedy, you know, Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin or something.
steve bannon
What, uh, you actually knew Rush personally.
You were a friend of his.
Talk to us.
You used to play golf quite a bit with Rush.
unidentified
Rush was fabulous to play golf with.
He relaxed.
It was probably his biggest enjoyment.
While he was healthy, one of the reasons he moved to Florida, among others, was so that he could finish his show at 3.
And by 3.30, he'd be on Emerald Dunes or the Trump Golf Course or Everglades or any one of the 10 or so clubs that he played at.
Or sometimes he'd play early in the morning.
He'd play at 7 o'clock and be ready for his 12 o'clock show.
Well, sometimes you just play nine holes, but I would say Roger during good weather played four out of the seven days.
steve bannon
You've actually competed with Rush as your partner.
Tell us about that.
unidentified
Our real claim to fame is we twice won the L's for Autism Tournament, which normally would be happening at this time of year.
I mean, I think of Roger a lot, obviously, for all sorts of reasons.
But at this time of the year, I'm usually playing golf with him two or three times, getting ready for the L's for Autism Tournament, which he and I take very seriously.
Our third partner is Marvin Shankin.
And then we get a pro that plays as everybody else does.
And over, we've played 12 years, over 12 years, we've won it twice.
So I have a trophy.
My son is very surprised that I have a trophy.
He has all the golf trophies in the family.
I have a trophy for our two wins.
And Rush, the first one we won was with Michelle Wee.
And he had us all on the radio and he was talking about it for weeks.
Going over individual shots and, you know, like it was the U.S.
Open.
steve bannon
I have to ask a question.
Michelle Lee, this was at the time when she was the rising, she was the female Tiger Woods.
How much farther off the tee did she hit it than you and Rush?
unidentified
Well, first she would hit up at the ladies' tee, so let's be fair.
But she'd still hit it further than us.
If she had played back with us, she still probably would have hit it a little bit further, but not quite as much.
Of the three of us, Rush had the longest drive.
I was probably second and Marvin third, although Marvin tells me now he's better than me because I haven't played in a year.
We're going to have to see, though.
steve bannon
What about Rush as a playing partner?
How was he as a playing partner?
You know how it is in golf.
You need a partner to pick you up.
How was Rush as a playing partner?
unidentified
Oh, he was great.
I mean, he was not impatient.
Certainly very, very generous with lessons or things that he learned or willing to take lessons himself.
It was also great because he used to exchange cigars.
One time I took out a cigar and I started lighting it with a little lighter that I had.
Just a little teeny lighter.
He took the lighter, he says, sissies use lighters like that.
He brought out this lighter that was about, like about a foot long.
He almost burned my nose and he lit my cigar.
He said, you like that lighter better?
I said, sure, I like that lighter better and the wind would be fabulous.
And of course, three days later, a lighter like that arrived at my house.
And I still have it.
He's an extraordinarily generous man.
steve bannon
Mayor, we got a jump, but I do want everybody to understand you're putting out a special, there's an interview that I'm going to play more of tomorrow that Russia interviewed me a year ago talking about the Chinese Communist Party in China.
We're going to play more of that tomorrow, but you've got a special broadcast, a podcast coming up tonight on China.
We got about 30 seconds before we got to pop.
What is the, tell me, tell us about the podcast and how can people get to it?
unidentified
And it points out the failure of Biden in that first meeting, that first telephone conversation, to not bring up the critical issues, which, in my experience in studying foreign policy, means we got a problem.
I mean, right away, when you're a leader, you set the ground rules.
Right away, you should have been talking about COVID-19, CCP virus, how you're responsible for it, and you're not going to fool me, pal.
And second, I got your number.
You want to surpass us in 49?
Well, I want you to know, Z, I got your number.
Ain't gonna happen.
steve bannon
Okay, Rudy, you go to rudyscommonsense.com.
Is that how they get the podcast?
unidentified
Yeah.
And his failure to do that tells us he's going to assume the same position he took as vice president.
steve bannon
We got to bounce, yeah, we'll get you to, we'll get right to the podcast off our audience and tomorrow we'll get you back on and talk about Rush Limbaugh's importance to America.
Rudy Giuliani, a close friend of Rush's for over 31 years.
Mayor, thank you very much for joining us.
We're going to have a special from that interview I did with Rush Limbaugh in October of 2019.
We're going to end the show with Rush Limbaugh, a truly great American.
unidentified
Steve, thanks so much.
I hope you're part of this in an either visible or stealth way, but incredible, incredible energy and resource.
I hope they find a way to utilize it again.
steve bannon
Well, Rush, thank you so much.
unidentified
You've been a great asset to the President.
steve bannon
I know you've always given him good advice.
unidentified
The best advice is never fold.
steve bannon
I remember the first time you told him, and you were so true, you see it here in this criminal justice thing has just happened, that he will never get credit from these people.
They are not out to work with him.
They're out to destroy him.
And I think that your guidance to the President has been, I think, the most wisdom that he's gotten since he's been in office.
I want to thank you.
And from the American people, I don't think people realize what a great asset you've been, a great patriot.
unidentified
Well, thank you.
I appreciate that.
And all the best to you.
And anytime there's anything you think we can do to help, just let me know.
steve bannon
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Thank you much.
Appreciate the time.
Really do.
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