Feb. 17, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| So you don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, Florida schools are open for in-person instruction. | ||
| Every single parent in this state has a right to send their kid to in-person instruction. | ||
| We have done it the right way. | ||
| We are not going to turn back. | ||
| What the CDC put out Five o'clock on a Friday afternoon, I wonder why they would do it then, was quite frankly a disgrace. | ||
| It would require, if you actually followed that, closing 90% of schools in the United States. | ||
| We have been open, they will remain open, and we are not turning back. | ||
| We've been open the whole time since August. | ||
| We had kids doing camps and athletics and all that over the summer. | ||
| And we've been in person as much as anybody in the country, and yet we're 34th out of 50 states in D.C. | ||
| for COVID-19 cases on a per capita basis for children. | ||
| 33 states have more cases per capita than Florida for children per capita. | ||
| And many of those don't have a lot of in-person instruction in school. | ||
| And so there is no evidence to suggest that school kids should do anything else other than be in school. | ||
| This has been clear for months and months and months. | ||
| We followed the data when we worked to get the kids, get the parents the option to send the kids back because we had looked at what happened in Europe, places like Sweden and all these other places. | ||
| And it does not require another $100 billion. | ||
| The school reopening plan that makes the most sense, if you want to open schools, open them. | ||
| Open the door. | ||
| Let them come in and let them learn. | ||
| And the only reason That that is not happening across this country like it is in Florida, like it is in a handful of other states. | ||
| It's one reason and one reason only. | ||
| Because the Democratic Party puts the interests of education unions and special interests ahead of the well-being of our children and of our families. | ||
| These kids have been out of school in parts of this country for almost a year. | ||
| If you follow that CDC guidance, they will not go back in this this school year, and they may not even go back in the fall. | ||
| That is a disgrace. | ||
| That is not science. | ||
| That is putting politics ahead of what's right for kids. | ||
| That is putting politics and special interests ahead of what the evidence and observed experience says. | ||
| So We're better off as a result of giving parents and kids that opportunity. | ||
| I can tell you I cannot go out without a parent coming up to me saying how much better it is that their child's able to go to school. | ||
| And so we're not looking back. | ||
| We're going to continue going forward. | ||
| That is Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, and I think people ought to start paying attention to Ron DeSantis. | ||
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I've known Ron for many, many years. | |
| Yale University graduate, Harvard Law School. | ||
| He is a smart guy. | ||
| He is a tough guy, and he's a fair guy. | ||
| His program of how he's managed the state of Florida, Totally juxtaposed to how Gavin Newsom is being recalled principally because of how he's made a debacle of the CCP virus. | ||
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Ron DeSantis, and I've got to tell you, so blunt. | |
| This is what's so amazing about this. | ||
| Alfredo Ortiz, who's always ahead of it over Job Creators Network, came up with basically the same ideas like we wrote the script for. | ||
| Yesterday we showed, and people went crazy, and we can get it back up there after Alfredo comes up, the billboard in Times Square. | ||
| Right? | ||
| With Alfredo Ortiz's group. | ||
| And Alfredo is talking exactly, there's the billboard right there, talking exactly about the point that Ron DeSantis is. | ||
| Don't need, I think it's, I don't know, it's a couple hundred billion dollars in this new 1.9 trillion. | ||
| Remember, we're going to have to pay all this money back. | ||
| It's going to hurt the dollar again. | ||
| We're in a very tough financial situation. | ||
| We've got a balance sheet that's out of whack. | ||
| We'll talk more about that in the days ahead. | ||
| But, is it to the unions? | ||
| That we're paying for the kids. | ||
| And last night, Joe Biden... | ||
| You know, trying to be affable. | ||
| I don't really see how you sit there. | ||
| The answers on China are unacceptable, but the answers about where he stands with actually the COVID virus, I can't even discern that either without, you know, Yicheng, without rolling dice or getting a tarot card out there. | ||
| Okay, Alfredo Ortiz, first off, before we talk about what you're doing, I would like you, because you're about as astute of a political analyst out there, I'd like you to deconstruct what Ron DeSantis said there in a very blunt style. | ||
| Right? | ||
| An evidence-based style, and some of it backed up by data and science. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Give us your assessment of, because it's amazing, you came with a billboard, you and DeSantis are coming at the same, you're focused on exactly what the problem is. | ||
| Walk us through what you think about DeSantis and his program. | ||
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Yeah, well first of all, Steve, thank you again for having me. | |
| It's great to see you. | ||
| Look, Ron has gotten this right. | ||
| Governor Sands has gotten this right, literally almost since day one. | ||
| Remember that the media went crazy on him, saying that there were going to be, you know, deaths galore in his state and that, you know, he should be recalled. | ||
| And I mean, they were making fun of him, throwing bananas and tomatoes and everything else you can think of, you know, at him. | ||
| And look who's laughing now. | ||
| He's actually probably the one governor of, frankly, of all the governors, including other Republican governors, have really, really nailed it. | ||
| But when you look at just kind of a red state, blue state, and I hate doing it this way, but it's just true. | ||
| You know, red state unemployment is probably about half, in the 5% range, versus 10% for New York and for California. | ||
| I mean, isn't it ironic that the two most populous democratic states, California and New York, are having basically the biggest issues now with their two governors? | ||
| uh... they just fundamentally do not know how to manage their states ron descent is in addition everything else he said about he's a practical guy he understood that we had to walk and chew gum at the same time and the reality is that we have to be able to figure out how to keep an economy moving and rolling uh... while still taking care safely and smartly and soundly those folks that needed the help And he was able to find that balance and he was able to keep his economy going. | ||
| And quite frankly, because of that, their state continues to do well. | ||
| And thank goodness, because you know, when you think about the hardest hit sector, Steve, from the COVID, it really is the whole hospitality industry. | ||
| And that is basically tourism and hospitality is the economy for Florida. | ||
| So if he hadn't done what he had done, It would have been a disaster for Florida and for our country. | ||
| What they hate about him is he's got applied intelligence. | ||
| Now he's an Ivy League grad, and incredibly intelligent. | ||
| He's got applied intelligence. | ||
| And he doesn't back off. | ||
| When Ron DeSantis comes to a decision, it's evidence-based. | ||
| He goes down a path. | ||
| He'll make course corrections, but he ain't backing off. | ||
| Okay, I want to go to what... Why did you come to this conclusion? | ||
| Tell us about the billboard. | ||
| What are you trying to put up? | ||
| Because you're saying, hey, Biden and these guys are playing to the special interest, not to the kids. | ||
| And we understand, and we've got people here laying in the wheat talking about the psychological damage being done, the unfairness to minority communities and to the kids that don't have enough resources, they're falling behind. | ||
| You can't take two years off of school, it doesn't work in a modern world, heading toward a fourth industrial revolution. | ||
| You're at JCN, you see this all the time with the entrepreneurs you work with. | ||
| So, Alfredo, what point are you guys trying to get to? | ||
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Look, I mean, bottom line, as far as we're concerned, basically, we're trying to drive the point home that Biden has shown zero leadership on this front. | |
| As far as I'm concerned, as far as we're concerned, all that Biden has done is he switched basements. | ||
| He went from his basement at his house to the White House. | ||
| And that's all we're kind of looking at here. | ||
| There's zero, zero leadership from this. | ||
| And again, from my perspective, his new education policy is unions first, kids last. | ||
| And this is just hurting millions of children. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| It's a good phrase, but what do you mean unions first, kids last? | ||
| Back that up. | ||
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Well, yeah, because it's a special interest. | |
| I'm going to kind of read this to you in terms of, you know, because people say, well, it's the $232,000. | ||
| You know, that's significant money, that contributions too. | ||
| But that's a drop in the bucket for Biden, right? | ||
| It's not the money. | ||
| Here's what he's worried about. | ||
| Right, you got the National Education Association has 3 plus million members, the American Federation of Teachers has 1.7 million, and New York State alone has 600,000 members for the New York State United Teachers Union. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's the numbers that he's concerned about, right? | ||
| He's more concerned about his re-election and pleasing his union left, you know, the teacher's union, than he is about doing the right thing for our students. | ||
| He should be showing the leadership, for example, that Ronald Reagan did when we had the air traffic controllers issue, right? | ||
| I mean, where's his mother? | ||
| Why is he going over to San Francisco and rolling up his sleeves with, you know, the state there and the unions there? | ||
| Or in Chicago or in Virginia? | ||
| I mean, he's showing zero leadership, and his administration, his press secretary says one thing, and then backs, changes it differently. | ||
| The CDC director says one thing, and then they say that it's in her personal capacity. | ||
| I mean, they are really, really screwing this up royally, and like I said, in the meantime, our children are suffering. | ||
| Last night, when you saw his display at the town hall, the CNN town hall, he says, hey, By Christmas it should be getting better. | ||
| Can we take right now, nobody can really describe, when's he going to open schools? | ||
| When are kids going to start going back five days a week? | ||
| When are they going to have in-class instruction? | ||
| Can you today, if somebody follows this, explain what Biden actually intends to do and is prepared to act on? | ||
| We know what Ron DeSantis is doing. | ||
| He's safely reopening schools. | ||
| What is Joe Biden doing? | ||
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unidentified
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There is no real plan. | |
| The CDC director herself... | ||
| Point Blank said at a White House press conference with a White House, you know, podium and a White House background that they needed, that they could open this safely and that teachers didn't even all need to have the vaccines. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, you know, the press secretary comes out and says, oh, that was in her own personal capacity. | ||
| That's such BS, Steve. | ||
| I'm sorry, but that really is. | ||
| And that's what's really concerning is, is that this is hurting all sectors of the economy. | ||
| If you're a Democrat, Republican, Independent, it doesn't matter, right? | ||
| If you've got kids in school, Right? | ||
| It's hurting you. | ||
| And the only schools that are actually starting to, quite frankly, starting to break a little bit and starting to open a little bit more, are because teachers have stood up. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And one of the things that we're trying to say to all parents, excuse me, it's not the teachers, so the parents stood up, is rise up. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because you have to speak. | ||
| Because right now, the Biden administration is not going to help. | ||
| Because they're too worried about pleasing the left and pleasing the unions on this front. | ||
| And that's the biggest concern here, right? | ||
| And that's why I say, for them, it's unions first, kids last. | ||
| Okay, I want to get up the billboard again. | ||
| Okay, Alfredo, I want you to go. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| Give us the website they have to go to. | ||
| We want everybody in the posse. | ||
| You know you're going to go to California. | ||
| You're going to hit the Lyndale site. | ||
| This is an action-oriented program. | ||
| Action, action, action. | ||
| We're giving you the tools. | ||
| We're going to put the billboard up again. | ||
| What do you want this audience to do today? | ||
| What do they need to do to assist you in trying to get these schools open and the kids safely back into a learning environment? | ||
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Yeah, absolutely. | |
| NoSchoolJoe.com is where they need to go. | ||
| First of all, understand the facts, understand all the different elements that show why we can open schools safely. | ||
| Ron DeSantis did a great job of outlining. | ||
| In Europe, we already knew this, and quite frankly, Job Creators Network has been talking about it. | ||
| We had a campaign, Steve, if you remember, called FlattenTheFear.com. | ||
| That was trying to help educate people on the fact that you could sense kids back, and we were warning folks of all the issues and challenges that were going to come from having kids out of school. | ||
| The depression, the anxiety, right? | ||
| I mean, suicide rates for teens are up. | ||
| I'm not sure if you know this, Steve, but prescription medication, antidepressants in children for teens is up triple digits! | ||
| I mean, this is going to be truly the pandemic, right, is the impact that this is going to have, the school close is going to have on the kids of today. | ||
| Alfredo, give us your social media coordinates, and once again, I want everybody to go to noschooljoe, that's all one word, noschooljoe.com, you've got that amazing, we put the billboard back up, you've got that amazing, amazing billboard in Times Square, noschooljoe.com, go there, get the information. | ||
| What's your social media coordinates? | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, well, right now, unfortunately, our Twitter account continues to be closed, which was one of our primary. | |
| Thanks to Twitter, we're down now for two weeks, and we're still trying to challenge that. | ||
| So right now, we're actually really encouraging people to go to the website, because there's a way of really basically signing up to get more information. | ||
| We're going to have a petition soon. | ||
| We had one before on Flatten the Fear. | ||
| We had thousands and thousands of parents sign that. | ||
| We had health, you know, health individuals, teachers sign that. | ||
| And it's just so critical right now that they do that and they speak up. | ||
| And like I said, right now, I mean, you mentioned, by the way, the spending, the spending alone. | ||
| If you look at this next COVID bill that's being discussed, there's $130 billion for that. | ||
| $70 billion has already passed. | ||
| $50 billion hasn't even been spent. | ||
| NoSchoolJoe.com. | ||
| Ralfredo, thank you very much. | ||
| We'll drive people there today to get more information. | ||
| Amazing billboard. | ||
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Yeah, thank you, Steve. | |
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Ron DeSantis. | ||
| Remember that name, Ron DeSantis. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Steve Camerato. | ||
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We're going to go back to the border. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, my wingman here has got to depart. | ||
| You're going to a major conference. | ||
| Eric Greitens is going to be co-host tomorrow in the studio. | ||
| Raheem's going to be brought in by Skype for a couple special segments. | ||
| We're going to do a very special segment on Churchill tomorrow. | ||
| I want everybody to be ready for that. | ||
| You're going to a major leadership conference to give a talk. | ||
| Before you take off, first off, your Kamala Harris story is everywhere. | ||
| It's blown up. | ||
| And I think last night, And I realize he was Apple and trying to be a nice guy, but when you talk about the tough things like the COVID, the vaccinations, the schools, and you talk about China, there's not a lot there. | ||
| I mean, people, I don't know if you can really feel comfortable that this guy's on top of things. | ||
| That plays in, I think, to the Kamala Harris making phone calls to the President of France and putting phone calls out, and I've now checked. | ||
| With a lot of my sources in Europe are saying, one of their concerns is there's not a lot of communication, they're not getting phone calls, they're not being engaged, like Trump was all over people, right? | ||
| Particularly at the beginning, right? | ||
| To say, hey, I want to find out what's going on, how we're going to be different. | ||
| So Joe Biden's approach to speaking about Donald Trump yesterday, last night, was really interesting. | ||
| At first, he kept calling him the former guy. | ||
| He was clearly told, hey, you know, just best to steer clear, rise above it, try not to engage in that kind of stuff and then by the end of the town hall he was making snarky quips, smirking at the audience you know and all of that and I think the distinction is probably evident to a lot of people in the White House as well. Now Trump era White House staffers would have appreciated the fact or at least acknowledged the fact | ||
| that Donald Trump came out with ideas out of left field, right? | ||
| Hey can we do this? Well no because of that. Hey how about this? Well no because of that. | ||
| And that's the way a businessman thinks, right? You're constantly trying to figure out different ways around problems. The problem with Joe Biden I think that they're seeing and this is why Kamala is stepping in to take the phone calls Isn't just that he's suggesting things that are out of left field, it's actually he's suggesting things that make no sense. | ||
| You know, he talked about the 100 million vaccines that could be administered to 300 Americans. | ||
| And yes, it's a mental flub, it's a verbal flub, but he doesn't correct. | ||
| And what he does is he doubles down. | ||
| In that same clip where he said the 300 Americans, he said it again later on and he doubles down. | ||
| So what his staff are having to do now, and specifically what the Vice President is having to do, is not just interpret what he actually meant, but figure out another way that he can't then mess up that information at the same time. | ||
| And I tell you, that's probably taking up a good 60% of the leadership time in the White House right now. | ||
| Ron Klain, the Prime Minister in the White House, his job right now is, how do we give this to Joe without him ruining it? | ||
| There's something up, and this is why the Biden administration, the California second front's so big, these executive orders. | ||
| Raheem, National Pulse is on fire, the podcast's on fire. | ||
| Can they get the podcast today? | ||
| I know you're going to be in the air. | ||
| Tell me about the podcast, because you're being invited out as a major speaker to one of the top leadership conferences out there. | ||
| Really proud of you. | ||
| What about the podcast? | ||
| Yeah, I'm opening on Friday morning earlier than I usually wake up. | ||
| I'm giving a speech on Friday morning out in Phoenix, Hillsdale College. | ||
| The subject is the future of the Never Trump movement and where I think the anti-Trump Republicans are going to go and how we can foil their plans. | ||
| Well, you just put a stake, as good as in Arizona, because you just put a stake in the heart of the Lincoln Project. | ||
| And there's more to come on the Lincoln Project as well. | ||
| Specifically, if you go to the site, we talk about how they hired their own donors to do their independent review. | ||
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But yeah, I'll be- I'll try- They hired their donors to do an independent review? | |
| They tried to hire their own donors. | ||
| I'll try and do a podcast today, I'll be in the air, but we'll see if we can get it done. | ||
| Okay, we're going to have you on tomorrow with the Greitens and then on Friday after your speech. | ||
| Okay, I want to bring in now the Director of Research for the Center for Immigration Studies, one of the top guys out there, Dr. Steven Camerota, came down to the border wall with us, just a fantastic, fantastic individual. | ||
| Talk to us about this new study. | ||
| We've got a massive Amnesty Bill coming, I think, at the end of the week, Doctor. | ||
| We've got, you know, he's undone or tried to undo everything President Trump did for our sovereignty and to protect working-class Hispanic families on the border. | ||
| This major report, you've got this fertility report. | ||
| Walk us through why you did the report, why it's important, what implications it's going to have for this bill that's coming on at the end of the week. | ||
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Well, the report you're speaking of is really a big-picture question. | |
| That Americans aren't having enough babies and that the solution to that is to bring in lots of immigrants who have high fertility, will have big families. | ||
| The idea being that in the future there's not going to be enough workers to power the economy or to pay for government. | ||
| Now in actuality economists have looked at this, I should say demographers have looked at this question for decades and everybody concludes the same thing. | ||
| Immigration can have only a tiny impact or small impact on actually making society more More youthful. | ||
| You can rejuvenate society through immigration only a little bit. | ||
| The reasons are that there's not enough immigrants, their differences with natives are not that big, and most importantly, they age over time. | ||
| Now there's some other reasons. | ||
| It may surprise your listeners to learn lots of immigrants come under the parents category. | ||
| It's over 200,000 a year now, and they're quite old, typically. | ||
| They're people in their 50s, 60s, and 70s. | ||
| So, just to give you one funny, I think, statistic is that about one out of every nine new immigrants to the United States is old enough to move directly into a retirement community right now, or an adult community, if you like that term better. | ||
| So, immigration is not really a fix for an aging society, and we've known that for decades. | ||
| But what's new is that at least immigrants did have higher fertility, but that's mostly changing now. | ||
| The latest data that we have, which is before COVID-19, shows that immigrant fertility has now declined to even below replacement level. | ||
| Replacement level means each woman would have about 2.1 children on average, and now it's down to 2, and it looks like it's just going to keep on declining. | ||
| So, here's just a simple way to think about the impact of that on American society. | ||
| Yes, immigrants have a lot of kids, but the overall fertility rate, that is if you put immigrants and the native-born together, is only about 4% higher because of the presence of immigrants. | ||
| In other words, it doesn't make much difference. | ||
| You can't Fix this problem of people not having enough babies, if you think that's an issue, by bringing in immigrants. | ||
| But the common issues, when the immigrants come here, the common issue of late family formation and decline in fertility, whether it's from the native population or from the immigrant population, is the economics. | ||
| You don't have economic populism and economic nationalism, it's the pressure On particularly guys, and also the women, to actually have incomes that can support any family, for family formation, and later to have bigger families. | ||
| I mean, I came from a, blessed to come from a family of a working class guy at the time, you know, a foreman, that had five kids, all went to Catholic school. | ||
| And my mom was a homemaker. | ||
| She stayed at home and had to take care of this brood. | ||
| But the issue is the economic issue. | ||
| That's why you can't expect the immigrants to be a magic solution, because they're going to come into a situation with the same problem. | ||
| It's the family formation problem. | ||
| And the family formation problem is later and later and later. | ||
| One, it's just women look at the not great attractive economic viability of males today. | ||
| And that's because of this kind of gig economy and the culture. | ||
| Where there's not manufacturing jobs, there's not high value added manufacturing jobs that people can build families upon. | ||
| And then women have to work too, so family formation comes later, and therefore you have fewer kids. | ||
| And the economics against having more kids is detrimental. | ||
| And I realize people are now trying to come out and vary the families. | ||
| Is that not correct? | ||
| I mean, you wouldn't expect the immigration to be any different. | ||
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Yeah, you want to recognize that a big part of why people don't have kids anymore, or have smaller families now, is expectations, right? | |
| The size, I have no idea about your personal background, but I'm willing to bet that the size of the home that you lived in, and how often maybe, or how expensive cars that you buy, and things like that, We know that the poor and even lower middle class people actually still have more children, somewhat, than the most affluent. | ||
| So if it was simply a question of economics, you'd expect the most affluent to have the most kids. | ||
| And that's never been true. | ||
| So, it's obviously, and partly what you say, which I do think is right, that the working class... No, no, no, but you've missed the point. | ||
| You've missed the point. | ||
| The working class back then, actually, we had a small house. | ||
| I think my dad started this 65 years later, but it was a small house. | ||
| They had a family because they had economic stability. | ||
| He had a job with the phone company. | ||
| And he knew he was going to have that job. | ||
| He didn't have a big house. | ||
| It wasn't the expectation of, hey, we're going to be wealthy. | ||
| We're going to be millionaires one day. | ||
| Let's have a bunch of kids. | ||
| That's not it. | ||
| Working class has it because they have stability. | ||
| They don't have stability because you have unlimited illegal alien labor coming to take and crush you in the working class. | ||
| And then, of course, at the higher levels, the tech levels, they want you to compete against the entire world. | ||
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unidentified
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Right. | |
| No, no. | ||
| Well, let me say this. | ||
| No, your point, my only point about the small house is today when people are contemplating having children, they like the idea of each child having their own room. | ||
| Now, I'm 56, I certainly never had my own room, but that's an example of the revolution of expectations, right? | ||
| Right, I get it. | ||
| You see what I mean? | ||
| So that's what you say is true, though. | ||
| And let me just add one thing. | ||
| The research is clear that when people face economic uncertainty, they don't want to have kids, especially in developed countries. | ||
| And we see that especially after the Great Recession. | ||
| There's been a significant decline in fertility, and it's never recovered. | ||
| Though it was declining anyway, but yes. | ||
| So your point about concerns or anxieties, clearly. | ||
| And one of the interesting things we found, and this you may find most interesting, is if you look at fertility of the native-born, it does look like, possibly, That the presence of immigrants is reducing native fertility. | ||
| So when we look at the largest cities in America and compare how many kids people have in, say, a place where there's relatively few immigrants to a place with lots of immigrants, the native-born have fewer kids, even controlling for things like education and income and race and so forth. | ||
| And the reason seems to be maybe The impact of immigration on things like cost of living and possibly job competition. | ||
| It's making natives more anxious or more uncertain about the future and thus makes them have fewer children. | ||
| Now, we're not certain about that. | ||
| The evidence is interesting. | ||
| I tell you what, can you just hang over for the... I just want to ask you a question on the other side of this. | ||
| Hang on for this commercial break. | ||
| Dr. Stephen Camerota. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, we have Dr. Steven Camerata from the Center of Immigration Studies. | ||
| We're going to have his National Security Fellow on in a second, Todd Bensman, about his great new book. | ||
| You talked about the impact of the financial collapse in 2008. | ||
| We never recovered from that. | ||
| I want to have you back on, we don't have time now, about what impact we're going to have from the CCP virus, from this COVID-19, right? | ||
| We've got to talk about that. | ||
| Also, the hypothesis you just put out, how would you be able, are you going to now try to drill down on that and get some data and some additional evidence to support that? | ||
| Is that where you go next on that hypothesis? | ||
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Yeah, so the hypothesis again is that the presence of immigrants seems to reduce native fertility. | |
| And we do have a series of regressions controlling for a whole variety of variables, but it's only in one year. | ||
| So one thing to do is to look at multiple years and there's some other issues. | ||
| We can't seem to find it in the smaller cities. | ||
| We're not sure if that's a statistical problem or it's real. | ||
| So we have to look for that as well. | ||
| Okay, Dr. Camerota, how do people get to your research? | ||
| How do they get to CIS, the fertility report? | ||
| Also, any analysis you guys have on this bomb that's about to drop tomorrow, the amnesty bill, or on Friday or Saturday? | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
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Yeah, everything is available free online at our website, CIS.org. | |
| It's like Center for Immigration Studies, abbreviated. | ||
| CIS.org. | ||
| Thank you so much, sir. We're going to stay with CIS and go to their National Security Fellow, Todd Bensman. The book is The Secret War on the Border. New book, let's get that covered. Let's bring in Todd. Todd, amazing book. You said for a long time, and the acclaim you've had, whether it's on Amazon or these other sites, about the professionals that have said, this is a story that needed to be told, the secret war down the border to keep the jihadists out. | ||
| You know, my sources down there, I was part of the program that We Build the Wall, and it looks like we're going to start building the wall again because Biden's going to cut it out, said that today it's all controlled by cartels. | ||
| There's no real open people crossing the border. | ||
| It's all controlled by cartels. | ||
| Talk to us about your book. | ||
| How did you come up with this idea that you need to do a book about the security of Well, it really started with Donald Trump's claim in late 2018, early 2019, that terrorists were coming over the border. | ||
| They were on the way in with the caravans. | ||
| He was citing this intelligence information to justify construction funding of the wall, essentially. | ||
| And the pushback that he received on that, You know, you're a liar. | ||
| You're, you know, fear mongering. | ||
| None of it's true. | ||
| But the fact is that I had worked in intelligence myself on that very issue with a lot of great men and women in federal government who I knew had been working right alongside with me on the issue of jihadist infiltration and how to reduce that threat. | ||
| So I knew he was right, but the way it was left with the American public after about three months of back and forth was, yeah, it's an unproven canard, a conspiracy theory, that sort of thing. | ||
| It's not at all. | ||
| I wanted to write the book to just clear the air of this very taboo on this very taboo subject. | ||
| It's probably the most taboo threat issue related to the border of them all. | ||
| Every single time that this is brought up by anyone, Donald Trump or the Judicial Watch or a congressman who says terrorists cross the border, everybody jumps on them and says, it's not true. | ||
| So I felt like what we needed was just a good, solid, neutral reference guide, kind of a Webster's dictionary on this issue of can they come through the border? | ||
| What is the threat? | ||
| And what is the United States Homeland Security Enterprise doing about it? | ||
| I think this book is that final product. | ||
| We should be able to start a regular, normal conversation about that threat from here. | ||
| Here's a question. | ||
| Particularly, I know Trump got a lot of grief about us, and all of us do. | ||
| Are you just fear-mongering? | ||
| Is it enough real infiltration? | ||
| Is it just fear-mongering that, you know, they can't demonize the immigrants enough coming across from Central America? | ||
| Now they've got to say, hey, they're coming from Iran, there's guys from Cuba, there's Venezuela. | ||
| They're bringing nuclear weapons, you see one prayer rug, or you see one thing that looks like a shawl. | ||
| I remember back in the days of Breitbart, you guys make it up that it's a prayer rug, and this is just all more right-wing paranoia. | ||
| Well, the truth is that it's somewhere in between. | ||
| The Republican right, conservatives, have at times exaggerated the threat. | ||
| They've made claims that weren't true. | ||
| about jihadists coming over the border. | ||
| That is dealt with in my book. | ||
| But on the other end of the spectrum, you have, you know, liberal Democrats who say that it's not true at all. | ||
| There is no migration from those parts of the world. | ||
| There is no threat. | ||
| It's all a lie. | ||
| And the fact is that there is migration from the Middle East, Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran. | ||
| Heck, we just had 11 Iranians ...caught at the Arizona border the week before last. | ||
| There is this... ...associated with those migrants just because of the countries that they are coming from. | ||
| And there is a US response to it that has been in place for 15 years now to deal with it. | ||
| And so, you know, prayer rugs, you know, that would be In my opinion, trace evidence. | ||
| I've actually met the migrants on the way, on the trails that would use prayer rugs or have Qurans. | ||
| We don't need to talk about prayer rugs anymore because I've videotaped and interviewed these migrants in Panama on their way here and in Mexico. | ||
| So they do exist. | ||
| And we have had jihadists caught. | ||
| The book is filled with anecdotes about jihadists and suspected jihadists. | ||
| That were apprehended in route in Latin America and at the U.S. | ||
| border, and some of them have been prosecuted in U.S. | ||
| courts. | ||
| Court record, you know, breadcrumb trail a mile long on this issue. | ||
| With Biden's new bill coming up and his executive orders that have done away with a lot of, you try to undo everything President Trump did in a couple of weeks over four years. | ||
| Where do you think we stand now? | ||
| Your book is, you interview professionals, you talk about this actual secret program, right? | ||
| That was, you know, part of our government's effort to do this and just one guy's doing freelance stuff. | ||
| What do you see the Biden administration, how much at risk are they putting us potentially To open up the southern border to other, to bad actors? | ||
| I mean, the big issue to me with the Biden administration EOs and what they're doing with ICE, gutting ICE, neutering ICE, that creates an open border circumstance. | ||
| I mean, just no borders. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| And when you have that, you have mass migration. | ||
| And all of the conditions are in place for a mass migration crisis that looks something like 2019, 2018 that happened here, but it looks even more like what happened in Europe in 2015, where you had large numbers coursing over the external borders and collapsing the systems. | ||
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The asylum system... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, whoa, whoa, hang on a second, Todd. | |
| You're telling me right now, you think for what they've done, you're looking at this as the equivalent is the 2015 situation that happened down in Europe, particularly near, I guess, Turkey, and coming up through that part of Eastern Europe, that it's going to be that, and also from North Africa, through the boats. | ||
| You're saying, you anticipate this will be closer to 2015 than it was to 2019? | ||
| Well, I bring up that there are different migrant flows. | ||
| We always have migration from those same countries that were entering through the European external borders coming through the southern border, just like the Iranians who just got caught in Arizona. | ||
| I bring up the European circumstance because the ISIS organization purposefully deployed Operatives in that migration flow in Europe, and they conducted the Paris attacks, the Brussels attacks, and countless other jihadist attacks inside Europe from one end of the continent to the other without halt. | ||
| Those attacks are going on to the present day for five years straight because that mass migration episode in Europe collapsed European external vetting systems. | ||
| When we have similar collapses under mass migration in the southern border, you have the potential for those migrants from the Middle Eastern countries to just waltz right in here unknown to us and claim asylum. | ||
| dangerous set of circumstances. | ||
| I've got to get to something else in Arizona with another guest, but we've got to have you back. | ||
| The book is America's Covert Border War, the untold story of the nation's battle to prevent jihadist infiltration. | ||
| Todd Bensman, senior fellow over at the Center for Immigration Studies, the author, you've got to get this, but the bombshell is that With everything that's going on, we could have a 2015 type in Europe situation at the border. | ||
| I've got to get you back on, Todd. | ||
| We've got to take an entire segment just to drill on that. | ||
| How did they go get to the book? | ||
| Is the book up on Amazon? | ||
| I know the book's on Amazon. | ||
| How else do they get to the book? | ||
| How else do people follow you? | ||
| Yeah, the book is up on Amazon and Barnes & Noble. | ||
| If you don't like Amazon, it's available wherever books are sold. | ||
| And you can see me at cis.org, all of my writings, but also ToddBensman.com, my website. | ||
| I put up all my latest writings there as well, so I appreciate the... To go there, visit today. | ||
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We're going to have Todd back to talk about this situation, the parallel between 2015 and today. | |
| Todd Bensman, great work. | ||
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Thank you very much, sir. | |
| We always have more to do here than we have time to do. | ||
| now there's a revolt in Arizona, the inspiration of California, but listen a lot of people are saying the work of the November 3rd of 2020 is not over. | ||
| You see the team at MyPillow, right? | ||
| Michael and Dale on the team. | ||
| They're not backing off. | ||
| He's tripling down again. | ||
| He's putting up information, new evidence, totally, and challenging Domeniti to sit down with him or sue him. | ||
| I want to bring in now Shelby Bush from Arizona. | ||
| She's a group, she's trying to recall Ducey the hapless governor. | ||
| They've already censured him. | ||
| Trying to recall Ducey and trying to recall The supervisors, they can't put him in jail, so she's going to recall him in Maricopa County. | ||
| Shelby, we've got about a minute and a half in this segment. | ||
| I want you to hold over, but tell us exactly what you're doing and why is it just not some crazy vendetta? | ||
| Why is this meaningful? | ||
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Sure. | |
| So, thanks for having me. | ||
| Right now, we are working to recall the Board of Supervisors is our first and primary. | ||
| We just filed on Ducey on Thursday. | ||
| The reason it's meaningful is for far too long, these politicians have felt like they're a protected class. | ||
| They've sat back, they've gotten away with everything. | ||
| And especially us as Republicans, we're patient people, right? | ||
| We make excuses. | ||
| We're patient. | ||
| Our patients have worn out. | ||
| It is time for action. | ||
| We're tired of it. | ||
| We're tired of these tyrants getting away with it. | ||
| And we're not going to stand back anymore and allow people to threaten us and tell us, oh, you're working for the Democrats, you're a socialist. | ||
| No, we're just tired. | ||
| We're tired of lack of representation. | ||
| Shelby, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to come back with you in a second. | ||
| But before we go to break, how do people get to your website? | ||
| Put out the website people can go to right now for action, action, action. | ||
| Shelby Bush and the team out there are recalling Governor Ducey and starting the process to recall the Maricopa County. | ||
| What's your website? | ||
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www.WeThePeopleAZAlliance.com. | |
| WeThePeopleAZAlliance. | ||
| Okay, we'll take a short commercial break. | ||
| We've got Dan Schultz, the individual that's driving this now about precinct committeemen. | ||
| He's on fire. | ||
| Epoch Times has a great interview article about him, profile. | ||
| Also, Shelby Bush will return. | ||
| They're recalling November 3rd, the embers still burn on war and pandemic. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| Okay, you guys want action. | ||
| Shelby Bush is here to give you action. | ||
| Shelby, real quickly, is this a fantasy? | ||
| Can you actually recall the Board of Supervisors of Maricopa County and Ducey? | ||
| Because the wounds of November 3rd have not healed, and the reason they have not healed is people are not accountable, and we still have not gotten to the bottom of it. | ||
| Is this a fantasy? | ||
| How close are you on Maricopa County? | ||
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So we're about a third of the way there on the push, and the momentum is gathering and gathering and gathering. | |
| Look, people are tired of sitting back and doing nothing. | ||
| You want to take real action? | ||
| You want to get involved? | ||
| You want to actually make a difference? | ||
| Then I encourage you, go to www.wethepeopleaz.org. | ||
| Find out how to get involved, how you can help us with this push. | ||
| It's a reality. | ||
| It's absolutely a reality. | ||
| When the people are mad, when they've had enough, this is what our Constitution is based on. | ||
| We the People. | ||
| Consent of the Governance. | ||
| We the People. | ||
| AZAlliance.com. | ||
| We're going to put it up on the website. | ||
| We're going to put it up in the live chat. | ||
| We're going to get back to you. | ||
| Shelby Bush, you're a great American. | ||
| Keep fighting. | ||
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Thank you so much. | |
| God bless. | ||
| Action, action, action. | ||
| Dan Schultz is on fire now. | ||
| The Great Epic Times has an amazing piece about him. | ||
| Dan, you've inspired so many people. | ||
| Are we to 100,000 hits yet on your website? | ||
| Not quite. | ||
| It was about 92,000 as of last night. | ||
| Okay, I need everybody on there. | ||
| Give the website and then let's go through your presentation. | ||
| You've got about six minutes. | ||
| Just let it rip. | ||
| Let's get the website out there right now. | ||
| It's theprecinctproject.wordpress.com, theprecinctproject.wordpress.com. | ||
| Everything I'm going to talk about in the next few minutes, it's on there in different formats. | ||
| There's videos, there's articles, look around, nose around, but it's all there. | ||
| So, I want to start out by talking about something that everybody talks about, this conservative base. | ||
| That everybody talks, there's a conservative base. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| I don't know where it is, but I can tell you where it isn't. | ||
| It isn't inside our party. | ||
| And what I mean by inside our party is it's not in the precinct committeeman ranks of our party. | ||
| That's where it needs to be. | ||
| And that's where I'm going to talk about how to do that in the next few minutes. | ||
| We got to, conservatives need to get organized and united where they live for real political action. | ||
| And the best organization to do that. | ||
| Inside of is wait for it. | ||
| I said political activity. | ||
| It's a political party. | ||
| And the members of the Republican party are the precinct committeemen of the party. | ||
| And it doesn't cost anything to do it. | ||
| It just takes a little bit of time, a little bit of knowledge. | ||
| It's all on my site. | ||
| And you're the elite when you're a precinct committeeman. | ||
| You're about one out of 125 Republicans. | ||
| Only about one out of 125 can be a precinct committeeman. | ||
| And the reason it's so powerful is you elect everybody in the party all the way up to the RNC. | ||
| If you want to change the RNC, you got to become a precinct committeeman. | ||
| So let's go to the first slide. | ||
| It's number 26. | ||
| And it's just a graphic that shows the party as it is today and what it could be. | ||
| Right now on the left, it shows that the party is about half strength. | ||
| There's 400,000 of these slots approximately, only about 200,000 are filled. | ||
| And half are moderates, half are conservatives. | ||
| If conservatives would fill up all the vacant slots, 200,000 conservatives invade the party, fill up all the vacant slots, now we've got a full-strength party, 100% strength, 75% majority, conservatives electing conservatives to all the leadership positions. | ||
| So if you can put 27 up, That basically graphically shows the strategy. | ||
| I want to peel off people. | ||
| If you're in a group already, you're a tea partier, right-to-lifer, angel moms, gun people, pro-military people, evangelical Christians, free marketers, immigration patriots, also become a precinct committeeman. | ||
| Find your local committee, join it as a precinct committeeman. | ||
| Next slide is number four, showing What this needs to look like in, you know, realville, in reality. | ||
| This is what we need at outside every local committee meeting going forward. | ||
| A line of conservatives wanting to come in and fill up, before anybody else does, those 200,000 vacant Republican Party precinct committeeman slots and thereby taking over our party. | ||
| Next slot is number five, which is Essentially, again, hammering home the point. | ||
| The goal is to have every precinct committeeman slot in our party filled with a Trump supporter. | ||
| Don't leave the party. | ||
| They want you to leave the party. | ||
| The establishment wants you to leave. | ||
| Don't. | ||
| And they also don't want you in the party. | ||
| So get inside it. | ||
| Don't get mad. | ||
| Get even. | ||
| Become a precinct committeeman. | ||
| And the last slide is number 22. | ||
| That's my contact information. | ||
| Again, my blog is theprecinctproject.wordpress.com, and my email is there. | ||
| Here's what Schultz is offering you. | ||
| This is empowerment. | ||
| For the Trump movement, what he's saying, hey, the movement's big, but You need to get engaged. | ||
| There's not going to be a third party. | ||
| They're going to get engaged in taking over the Republican Party with Trump deplorables. | ||
| Because you guys have got the common sense, you've got the grit, you've got the tenacity, you understand the issues. | ||
| I see it all the time in the live chat. | ||
| What Dan Schultz is offering says, hey look, There's 400,000 billets, half of them are not taken. | ||
| They're there for the taking. | ||
| And this is free. | ||
| It costs you no money. | ||
| You will be empowered. | ||
| This is about agency. | ||
| We talk about, all the time in the show, agency. | ||
| Human agency. | ||
| The way Divine Providence works is through human agency. | ||
| Can I jump in and say one quick thing? | ||
| Yes, sure. | ||
| About election integrity. | ||
| You want to make election integrity happen. | ||
| Here in Arizona, we want that to happen. | ||
| But guess what? | ||
| In our Arizona GOP, two-thirds of our precinct committeeman slots are vacant. | ||
| What if the two-thirds vacant slots were filled with conservatives? | ||
| We'd be much more powerful than lobbying for election reform. | ||
| Dan, real quickly, just last, give us your website again and the email. | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
| You've got about 30 seconds. | ||
| It's theprecinctproject.wordpress.com, theprecinctproject.wordpress.com. | ||
| Try to follow the instructions there. | ||
| Try to find your local committee. | ||
| If you run into any problems, email me at acoldwarrior at gmail.com, but I'm backed up. | ||
| I've got several hundred emails I haven't gotten to yet. | ||
| If you've emailed me and I haven't responded, that's why. | ||
| And then I've also put up on all of these different other alternative, better platforms than Twitter and Facebook, precinct committeeman strategy groups that you can go to as well. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Okay, we'll be back at 5 o'clock. | ||
| We're going to be following the Mike Lindell thing. | ||
| We're going to put up on the website page, we're going to put in the live chat, the newsletter, sign up for the newsletter. | ||
| We're going to put in all the links for everything today of all the guests, particularly Lindell, and he's putting out a 30-minute film on the evidence. |
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