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Episode 736 – Nov. 3 is Not Over (w/ Mike J. Lindell, Rudy Giuliani, Tom Del Beccaro)Episode 736 – Nov. 3 is Not Over (w/ Mike J. Lindell, Rudy Giuliani, Tom Del Beccaro)
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
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So you don't want to frighten the American public.
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
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That this is going to be a real serious problem.
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
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Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Live from our nation's capital, the still occupied nation's capital, Rahim, I think what we ought to do in the terrific diary the National Pulse does every day, I think we ought to be like Nightline was back in the Iranian hostage crisis.
I actually think we ought to start thinking about on the National Pulse's diary to put how many days we're occupied.
I mean, Jack, the great Jack Posobiec, Right?
Everybody in the War Room Posse knows him.
Jack Pasova is leaving One American News last night, going by exactly where we were when he did the Mike Lindell three-hour special.
I actually went to their broadcast center here, which is two minutes away from us on Capitol Hill, in normal times.
Now it's about 15 or 20 minutes.
You've got to wing around.
It's a complete wall and fence there with razor barbed wire.
We're outside of One America.
And when we left that night, the guards come over and they give you stink eye, right?
Posobac last night kind of puts up his live stream and they're like, where are your papers?
Where's your regulation?
You're in the war room, in an occupied still, and I don't understand why these governors, what is, what's the, and they're telling us that's 486 million dollars.
I think that's as much as Trump's been on the wall.
We're going to get to all that.
It's Ash Wednesday, the 17th of February, the year of our Lord, 2021.
You're in the War Room, and I'm so glad that Raheem Kassam's here.
A lot of times after Shrove Tuesday, Raheem, you know, takes the morning off and comes in later on a, you know, celebrating, right before Lent, because, you know, Raheem's very focused on Lent.
raheem kassam
Very focused on Pancake Day.
steve bannon
Pancake Day.
We're very, okay, we've got a lot to get through.
We're going to start with...
I guess it's, I would say, an American original.
Only in America can somebody like Mike Lindell come on the scene.
Mike Lindell, the CEO of MyPillow.
Mike, thank you very much for joining us.
You know, Joe Biden, and I realize that this is one of the things and the focuses of your life, that you're now part of this anti-CCP crusade.
You're like saying, hey, there's something wrong with November 3rd.
Although President Trump is now in a firefight with Mitch McConnell about direction and control of the Republican Party, I've advocated on a speech I gave Saturday morning to a Lincoln Day pancake breakfast, right, about President Trump should, I think, immediately take charge of the 2022 campaign and basically become Speaker of the House after we have a sweeping victory, impeach Joe Biden immediately, and then after he's impeached in 100 days, announce he's running, step down and announce he's running for president in 2024 to get fully
engaged.
Sure, he's in this firefight with Mitch McConnell, and the McConnell guys are getting a little nasty about this now about exactly what kind of help President Trump gave him.
So there's breaking news, Mike, with you, and that's why we wanted to have you on this morning.
You know, at 10 o'clock today, Eastern Time, you're launching again the film in a number of different venues, plus you're launching a version that's under 30 minutes long that's just the evidence.
So tell us, you know, if the President's now fighting with McConnell, they're talking about the direction of 2022 and, you know, and beyond, and, you know, fighting over these Senate candidates, and President Trump is the leader of our movement, President Trump is going to give the direction of it.
As I've said, in the Boston Herald picked it up as their front page story.
I'd like to get that back up into the live chat so everybody can see it.
That, you know, President Trump is going to win in 2024.
If he puts his shoulder to the wheel and engages, he'll win.
Particularly, I think, as we saw from Biden's performance last night.
We'll talk about the details.
We're going to still be in the CCP virus up to Christmas of this year.
That he has no real plan to open the schools.
It's all gobbledygook.
Alfredo Ortiz will come in later to talk about that.
But Mike, tell folks you won't give it up.
You're still focused on the third.
Why is that?
Why don't you just say, hey, we've had the Senate trial.
Is it time?
You're the guy that's not moving on.
And clearly every day, the Dominion guys, you're in this firefight with the Dominion guys.
Why is Mike Lindell not moving on from November 3rd?
In fact, you're tripling down today by putting out, and I did the three-hour special and I said, hey, are you prepared to put more evidence out?
You go, absolutely.
So today you're doing it.
Talk about what's happening at 10 o'clock.
Talk about the thing.
And why are you, is it just that you're so obstinate?
You're one of these guys that gets on something and just can't give it away?
Are you doing this for the country?
I think because you've got so many fans in our live stream and on Hashtag War on Pandemic, people feel that you're a leader and feel that you're a patriot and you've got the country's best interests.
But why won't you just give it up?
Why don't you just toss it in, go make some more pillows and come back in 2024?
mike lindell
Well, there would be no 2024 or 2022.
Everything you just said there about the plan of 2022 or 2024 makes no difference, because Dominion and Smartmatic and other countries will pick our politicians.
And that's what happened this year.
That's what happened on November 3rd.
foreign entities, including China, picked all of our politicians and they picked Biden.
And millions of votes were flipped.
The special today that's coming out, it might be delayed a little bit.
We had problems with power outages and my IT guy lives there.
He doesn't have power.
He's trying to do it.
He's trying to get it launched on computers and cell phones with no wifi.
But it'll be launched real close to 10.
And the thing is, is this is gonna be all just the facts.
There's going to be no experts in there, nothing, because you don't need that.
It doesn't matter where you got the evidence from.
steve bannon
But hang on, slow down for a second, because we did this in a three-hour special.
You're coming out with other versions of the two-hour movie, and you're putting that out with influencers.
I want to walk through that.
30 minute just evidence.
There couldn't be a bigger spread between the bid and the ask.
Dominion's saying absolutely consistently, hey Mike Lindell may know a lot about pillars, he doesn't know anything about technology, computers, internet, voting machines, voting, he's not just wrong, he's dead wrong.
And he's, I guess, defaming us by saying this.
And you're sitting there going, no, I've got the facts, I've got the evidence.
So it's this gulf, it's this gulf.
What are you doing today?
Have you reached out to the Minion guys to say, let's sit down?
Have you reached out to the Minion guys to say, hey, I've got the evidence, I want you to prove me wrong?
And why is this 28 minute or 30 minute version of evidence?
When you say evidence, is it hard evidence or is it more assertions by smart people?
Are you actually showing evidence?
mike lindell
Well, there's two questions there.
The first one is Dominion and Smartmatic, but Dominion themselves, big article came out yesterday because actually one of a friend I have that's a very left-wing guy, he reached out to Dominion.
Hey, are you going to sue Mike?
He just, you know, and they finally said, well, yes, we're going to do it, which, oh, I hope they do.
I can't tell you enough because it would make it a lot easier because then they're going to have to disclose everything.
Because it's just a fight, even when you get a subpoena like Maricopa County in Arizona, even with the subpoena, they're still not wanting to show a machine.
But to answer the second part of your question, this evidence, okay, these are timestamps from inside the spyware used by our government, used by people that work in and out of the government, that were there from November 1st to November 5th, that take these timestamps,
And you see the IP address, you see the ID of the computer, where the attack came from, the exact moment in time, which computer over here got hacked, the exact computer, or were they let in?
Or were they let in?
And you see the IP address.
These are things that are used in court.
In court, if anybody looks at it, and these are actually, now I want to say, these aren't the actual prints.
These are taken the data off what comes out of the computer.
You and I would have a hard time reading all the computer talk, but this prints it onto these sheets.
That's very easy for anybody who did the attack, which computer and so on.
One of the things I want to tell everybody, because I've gotten thousands of emails from the absolute proof, Uh, the last third of it is where this big evidence is.
And one of the biggest questions is, um, well, how do we know this is real that you didn't just make it up?
Well, um, I've, uh, I've seen it with my own eyes.
That's a, uh, there's three people, um, that are, that are all involved and, uh, and they, um, they're ready to come forward when it would get to a court or something or something like that.
But most importantly, just yesterday, we had a group the last two weeks or since, since February 5th.
Have went around and validated the IP addresses and the IDs of those computers.
I want to say that again.
We validated.
Well, here's the spyware, the ID of the computers.
And, and, you know, let's say this one's in Fulton County clerk's office or whatever.
Boom.
There it is.
Wow.
You check it.
What they match.
And, uh, and then you have that.
Then you also, we have done this.
Both in Maricopa County, that open case up there, and Antrim.
And we have compared what votes were flipped there, because they actually are ongoing cases.
Both of them are ongoing cases.
What votes were flipped there, and does it match this evidence over here?
And guess what?
Identical.
Identical!
steve bannon
Okay, I just want to go back for people that have seen Absolute Proof.
If you haven't, you definitely ought to see it.
I like the three-hour version where we break the film apart and I push back.
I want to be specific.
In the part with, I think it was Dennis Montgomery and Mary Fanning at the end of the film where you have this big reveal, you put up two pieces of evidence.
I thought they were quite confusing, and I said, first off, the computer charts you had, they had all this about where it actually came from, and I said, hey, are you prepared to put out more?
I take it what you're saying today, specifically about these IP addresses, because I said, hey, could you have independent people kind of verify that?
You're saying now that that first piece of evidence they put up, this is what you're providing more about exactly, IP addresses, and you can actually have people ascertain This really came from either Antrim or other places, and you can match it to that?
mike lindell
Right, right.
There's a strip of those, and it's not necessarily the two people you just mentioned.
I have, just so you know, I'm not relying on one source.
There's three different sources, all have the same access.
I just want to make that clear.
There's multiple sources.
And yes, these things go on and on.
There's over 2,000 pages.
I'm not gonna show them all on TV during this 30 minutes.
But you can just take any line, let's say it's 11, 3 at 10.06 a.m.
You see the timestamp, you go over it, you see who attacked, you see the IP address, the ID of the computer.
You could drive right down in your car, Steve, and go in there if you and I knew how to get the ID off that computer and go, what?
How would they have known that?
Thousands of computers if this wasn't real.
That's it.
steve bannon
Okay, I just want to say, you know, there are a lot of news sites that are very, I don't want to say supportive, but are very obviously think the world of you and try to report this even handily as you get attacked all over.
Even some of those sites have come out and questioned either the motives or some of the information that was put in the section.
I just want to make sure we're clear.
This 30 minute new film you're coming out with called The Evidence.
Right?
That evidence is to back up certain assertions that were in the original movie that you think give more depth and more clarity to some of the assertions that were made.
And this is now backed up by people that were not originally the film, but other people, correct?
mike lindell
That's correct.
And I want to say one thing to another.
These answer, it's going to answer a lot of questions and people that didn't get through that last third of the film.
But one of the things I want to say is in the beginning of this, with just the evidence, I want to say all these, um, I do put up the charts of the organic cheating, the dead people, the people, the miners, the people that didn't live in the state.
Those came from secretary of state's offices.
There are numbers that were given to by the state.
I went back and double checked them.
So these are all numbers that were given by the state.
So you can say, well, what'd you make up these numbers?
No, those numbers were not made up.
And it just validates a lot of things there.
So if you have any doubt in your mind that this is real, and I want to tell everybody, I have better things to do, and I'm 100% all in.
This is about our country.
This is about our country.
This is about our future.
This is about 2022, if it even will happen.
2024, if we got to get rid of the machines, all of them, Smartmatic, Dominion, it can't happen.
And this is going to show you all that.
steve bannon
Okay, Mike, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We'll return in a moment.
When we return, Rahim's going to give us a little summary of Joe Biden's performance last night regarding China.
Remember, I'm sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party as a civilian.
We are part of the anti-CCP movement.
The performance last night at Joe Biden was unacceptable.
When you cut to everything that Mike Lindell's talking about, he really says that he agrees with DNI that China had an active role in the 2020 election.
DNI, I think, would say is probably more social media.
Mike Lindell says the biggest cyber attack in world history.
We're going to return in a moment with Mike Lindell, CEO of MyPillow.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
joe biden
You know, Chinese leaders, if you know anything about Chinese history, it has always been the time when China has been victimized by the outer world is when they haven't been unified at home.
So the central to vastly overstated the central principle of Xi Jinping is that there must be a united, tightly controlled China.
And he uses his rationale for the things he does based on that.
I point out to him, no American president can be sustained as a president if he doesn't reflect the values of the United States.
And so the idea, I'm not going to speak out against what he's doing in Hong Kong, what he's doing with the Uyghurs in western mountains of China, and Taiwan trying to end the one China policy by making it forceful.
I said and by the he said he he gets it.
Culturally there are different norms at each country and they their leaders are expected to follow.
steve bannon
That is the Beijing Party line right there.
That is the biggest amount of gobbledygook I've ever seen.
Now Rahim Ghassan broke the story yesterday.
Everybody's picking it up now about Kamala Harris making phone calls.
This is at the core of it, what Mike Lindell's crusade is, that China is actively involved in the 2020 election.
And DNI, Radcliffe, owed the president the report.
Didn't come till 45 days.
Biden executive order in 2018, foreign influence.
CIA slow walked it.
Finally came at last days of the administration.
The same time Pompeo designated the genocidal regime.
All the stuff out of Wuhan that the intelligence service said came out of Wuhan, out of some sort of, you know, they didn't actually go to say buy a weapon.
But the whole thing's on China, and no offense, because I understand Rahim will talk later about this, he tried to come across as the good guy, the anti-Trump essentially, right?
But Trump's forceful, that's what we need on the world stage, that right there, coming from people that live and breathe the CCP thing every day.
unidentified
Well, at least now we know what the two hours on the phone with Xi Jinping were about.
raheem kassam
He was doing debate prep.
He was doing town hall prep.
unidentified
Wow.
raheem kassam
Xi Jinping saying, you know, Anderson Cooper's really gonna give it to you up there.
So we're gonna go through line by line what you say.
It was the Chinese Communist Party's line, their propaganda.
And I've got news here.
We are going to report on the National Pulse in the next couple of days.
Joe Biden's links to one of the leading Chinese propaganda outfits.
We have the receipts of them.
unidentified
Wow.
raheem kassam
So if I go missing, you go looking for Natalie Winters on this.
But deadly seriously, this was not just one moment in this town hall last night where Joe Biden belied the nice guy exterior.
Betrayed the idea of you know the affable and he was affable at many times last night.
He was affable We'll get into that later on.
Yeah, but there were many there were many moments scattered within where you saw this pernicious Anti-american Joe Biden and this was the cherry on that cake I want to go, by the way, the film is absolute proof.
steve bannon
He's now put another 30 minutes evidence.
He's also going to put it out through influences all today.
How do people first, Mike, before we talk about China, how do people get access to what you're putting up right now?
Understanding you've got some power problems out in the in the Midwest and down in Texas and places where how how do people go see?
What I really want to see is your 30 minute film today on your new evidence that you're prepared to back up.
mike lindell
Right.
Well, as soon as it's up, it should be.
I just checked with him on break there.
It'll be LyndellTV.com.
LyndellTV.com.
If you want to watch it right now, we do have it up on MichaelJLyndell.com, but that part, once you share it, that's going to, you know, that'll be, that'll be hit right away.
We put a lot of safeguards on and when we get the LyndellTV.com up, but they're not going What do you mean by hit?
steve bannon
What do you mean by hit?
Because you've got these influencers, this whole whack-a-mole thing.
When you say hit, who's hitting you?
You've got to go see LindellTV.com when it's up to 30 minute film or MichaelJLindell.com to see it.
When you say hit, what do you mean by hit?
Because you've got these influencers, this whole whack-a-mole thing.
When you say hit, who's hitting you?
mike lindell
Well, all the social media, the bad social media sites like Twitter and it'll be Twitter, Facebook.
I'm sure they're going to, when they get one, they'll put up partially false information or false information or contains nudity.
I mean, these are all things that Facebook does, but you get to YouTube and Vimeo, these places, as soon as the computer catches that it's any of this evidence, Against Dominion or Smartmatic or these machines, bam, they're going to take it down.
But we put stuff in place where it's going to pop back up.
And we've got these, we really went to a, it's very elaborate.
It's like fighting back and going, sorry, our voices are going to be heard.
I want to, I want to quick before I forget, Steve, I want to tell everyone, everyone's asking what they can do.
I got emails last night.
From three different counties in the country where they went and they're demanding to know why their counties had these Dominion machines and why a lot of them bought them in 2019.
And they're demanding answers.
They want to know what was wrong with the old way.
What was wrong before we got these machines?
And that, you know, and so I think it's going to be a big movement.
Like I say, I hope Dominion gets, you know, does good on their promise today.
Excuse me.
steve bannon
Why have you not sat down with Dominion executives and said, hey, look, I'm a businessman, you're a businessman, there's a problem here, I've identified a problem, and here's what you've got to do, and particularly if there's any link to China or this stuff, because they keep saying the guy's a nutcase, we're not hooked to the internet, he can't get out, we don't even cross, the CEO comes in and says, hey,
Mike Lindell, not only is it not going to Barcelona or wherever it's going, it doesn't cross county lines.
Lindell so not understands what's going on, it doesn't cross county lines.
Why have you not sat down with the Dominion guys?
Why do you gotta take it to a court?
Why can't you work this thing out businessman to businessman?
mike lindell
Well, because they're, it's obviously them, they won't, they'll send me, the last letter they sent was, whoever you use in your documentary, we'd like to know because you know, and they sent me a list of people that weren't credible and they said, you're going to be embarrassed if you use these people.
Well, I didn't use any of those people.
And I've reached out to them.
I said, you know, somebody tell me where I'm wrong.
All the media outlets have not called to say, hey, you're wrong here.
You're wrong here.
One guy did, but it was that left-wing friend of mine.
And I said, did you look at the evidence?
Did you watch the movie?
He said, no.
I said, well, then how can you put in your article that it's false?
And I want to tell another thing, too, here.
We just lost power here.
Kendra, can you open that up, please?
Can you still hear me, Steve?
Can you still hear me?
steve bannon
Well, we lost power.
unidentified
We lost power.
steve bannon
I'm going to try and come over here.
mike lindell
We lost power.
We lost power.
I'm going to try and come over here.
At least you can see me a little bit.
But I want to say, when you asked about China, if you look at the evidence you're going to see on this short clip, on this evidence here that Paul came back on, if you see the evidence, it's going to show that China was 60% of all the attacks came from China.
60% came from, of these cyber attacks, came from China.
So that's a pretty big statistic.
steve bannon
See, but this is where I think, okay, so this is where I think you raise up the stakes, because I said on the three-hour, that's where I think you owe it to yourself, you owe it to the people that are your followers, you owe it to the country, and even to the company.
Because here you take it to a different level and say, hey, And this was you.
This is the biggest cyber attack in world history.
Now the head of DNI came out and said definitively they were involved in the 2020 election.
Most people interpret that as some social media, with the Wu Mao 50-cent army or something, some social media impact in that.
But you're saying something different.
You've taken up that, hey, basically it's an act of war.
That's got to be backed up.
And that's what this 30-minute new evidence is.
And are you prepared to show additional evidence Before you get into a court of law with the Dominion guys, because clearly they told Daily Beast yesterday, a lawsuit is imminent.
So are you prepared to show additional evidence?
Look, you're only tripling down.
unidentified
Somehow, eventually they're going to do something, right?
mike lindell
Steve, what I'm going to do is I'm going to try and do a evidence video, maybe about every three or four days, maybe it'd take a few, five or six days.
We're going to break out, we'll break out every swing state, you know, whatever it takes.
Here's a swing state.
Here's all the evidence of the machine stuff from that particular state.
We're going to break down, maybe break down exactly the charts.
by country, by the attacks.
We'll break it down by state, by computer and say, hey, why won't they let us see these computers?
I wanna let the people know what's going on out there, what lawsuits are out there currently with these, that involve these machines.
And I'm gonna, you know, and the thing is, is why would they not want to come and say, Mike, come on, you're wrong here.
You're wrong.
Would you, you know, let's go on national TV and look at this, you know, let's all talk about this.
But they don't do that, Steve.
Every, every news outlet in this country attacked me for 20 some days.
And on February 5th, I wake up and nobody calls.
I call these guys all day long, every day.
Come on guys, you know, put the evidence out there for save our country.
You know, what is wrong with the New York Times, the USA Today, the Washington Post, CNN, Fox, all these places.
That Dominion has them scared.
Oh, we're gonna sue you.
Well, you know what?
Good for you, Dominion, you sue me.
If we don't get this solved, we don't have a country anyway.
Where are you gonna get the money from?
The Tooth Fairy?
steve bannon
Okay, Mike, real quickly, we've got about 30 seconds left.
How do people go see these films today?
How do they see the 30-minute film, and how do they see the longer film?
mike lindell
Well, they're gonna see you can go to michaeljlyndale.com or you can go to lyndaletv.com.
The lyndaletv.com, it should take about another half hour.
As you can see, we keep losing power here where I'm at and with this storm.
But you guys, once you get there, you need to share it everywhere.
By the way, Steve, the last, the half hour now has been seen as of this morning by over a hundred million people worldwide.
steve bannon
The two-hour movie, yep.
We're going to talk about this.
We're going to push this out today.
People should see it.
We always invite the Dominion guys to come on.
Love to have them on to give the counter-argument.
Mike Lindell, thank you very much.
The CEO of MyPillow and his crusade to prove that November 3rd something was amiss and he's not going to give it up.
Okay, short commercial break.
Thank you, Mike Lindell.
We're going to turn with America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Raheem Kassam's assessment of Biden's performance last night.
Next.
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joe biden
My mother would say, with the grace of God and the goodwill of the neighbors, that by next Christmas, I think we'll be in a very different circumstance, God willing, than we are today.
I think a year from now, when it's 22 below zero here, no, a year from now, I think that there'll be significantly fewer people having to Be socially distanced, have to wear a mask, etc.
But we don't know.
And the biggest thing, though, as you remember, when you and I... I shouldn't say it that way, as you remember, but when you and I talked last, we talked about it's one thing to have the vaccine, which we didn't have when we came into office, but a vaccinator.
How do you get the vaccine into someone's arm?
steve bannon
Rahim, you know, we just had Mike Lindell.
He's he's maniacally focused on the CCP You know, connection in the 2020 election.
And he's bound and determined.
I mean, look, the thing in the Daily Beast yesterday was a throw down.
He's just saying, hey, dare you to sue me?
I would think that reasonable men could sit down, men and women could sit down and hash through this and do it in some public format, put it up on live stream or whatever.
But there's a huge gap between the bid and the ask.
But he just committed right there to put out additional information evidence every couple of days.
He's got a 30 minute film up.
Go to LyndaleTV.com.
Because of the power situation out in the West, the rolling blackouts may not be up now, but write it down for later.
LyndaleTV.com or MichaelJLyndale.com.
And I think on the Michael J. Lyndale, you get the two.
We're going to get to Rudy in a second.
Before we go to Rudy, these last two.
Am I to take it?
First off, let me just say something.
And my phone's been blown up by guys watching.
Jack Posobiec nailed it last night.
Scott Adams nailed it last night.
Go to their Twitter feed.
That is, I believe, given the history we've had with Ronald Reagan, what we had against radical jihad, staring down the fascists and the imperial, you know, military junta in Japan, the history of this country, that was a disgraceful, disgraceful, disgraceful comments made by the Commander-in-Chief last night about the Uyghurs and about China.
Basically, you could say, hey, the Nazis had a norm.
People have norms.
They've been identified as a genocidal regime.
The genocidal regime.
Ask the Diaspora.
Don't ask Steve Bannon.
Ask the Chinese that come on here.
The Chinese people that come on here all the time.
Liao Baijing.
250 million, I think, have left.
These last two right here, though, are shocking.
Hey, am I now to think that we're going to have this through Christmas of next year and he had no vaccines?
Totally different from what Fauci says.
They're federalizing the distribution.
I know it's very different, but jump in here.
We're going to bring Rudy Giuliani, who's going to join us in a second, who understands what it takes to be a statesman.
raheem kassam
Look, I'm still stunned.
And let's forget that it's Joe Biden for a second.
Put those words in anyone's mouth, it would be disgusting.
It would be disgraceful what he said last night about the cultural norms of genocide.
steve bannon
It's also a lie.
raheem kassam
It's offensive on multiple fronts.
It implicates ordinary Chinese people in the genocide of millions that is taking place, and it also gives sucker and cover To a regime that, and by the way, you don't have to believe the people that come onto War and Pandemic.
You don't have to believe the people that sit in these chairs, Joe Biden.
Go and look at the statements, look at the statements of the US Holocaust Memorial Fund, where they say there is a reasonable basis to believe the government of China is committing crimes against humanity.
Look at all of the inter-parliamentary, all the cross-party, everything.
This is not something you can deny.
steve bannon
Tomorrow we're going to have Eric Greitens on as co-host with Rahim.
We're going to talk about Churchill.
You guys brought up last weekend, but what Churchill would do, it's outrageous.
raheem kassam
Rudy... Just very quickly.
I want to make clear to everybody, what was the war against Jews?
And that was treating them as others, isolating them, forcing them to emigrate, ghettoizing them, deporting them, and mass murdering them.
And every single one of those things, bar mass deportations, because frankly the CCP thinks it's cheaper and more effective just to kill these people, every single one of those things is happening and Joe Biden calls it a different cultural norm.
steve bannon
It's an insult to the Chinese people.
That's an insult to the Chinese people.
Chinese people are one of the great civilizations.
We keep saying it's unsatisfactory.
You've got 1.4 billion people, probably our most ancient civilization, that are slaves to this totalitarian dictatorship.
Okay, Mayor, tomorrow with Eric Greitens we're going to be talking about Winston Churchill and about this whole new thing, Churchill College.
At Cambridge, right?
This whole thing about this awful seminar they had, and about Churchill's history.
raheem kassam
That's where we met.
steve bannon
Exactly.
You've studied Churchill for many years.
You saw Biden last night.
Is that what a commander-in-chief does, Rudy Giuliani?
rudy giuliani
No, it's just the opposite.
I mean, I wrote a book on leadership a few years ago, so now I can write a book on leadership and point out what you don't do.
First of all, he didn't really answer, as the Boston Globe noted.
We went back to whatever they call the Trump presidency, to a boring presidency, where he answers no question.
Notice he gave no definitive position on anything.
We don't know when he's going to open schools or what he's going to do about it, what kind of position he's going to take on that.
We have no answers on anything.
Conference like that, we'd have 10 answers that we'd all be fighting about or talking about.
And most importantly, on China.
I mean, I noticed from the little bit you could get with a telephone call with Xi, that he was very accommodating.
And I have a podcast about that coming on tonight, and an op-ed piece tomorrow.
I was really concerned that he didn't bring up in strong terms COVID, or CCP virus, and the fact that just to let him know, One of the things you do with an opponent is you let him know you know the game he's playing.
And you're aware of it.
And he should have said to him, look, I was out of it at the time, but I realized what you did.
You let all those people travel all around the world and you infected the world.
And that's on my agenda, Z. Big time.
Big time.
And then I also, I'm not one of these people that's playing denier.
I know what you said about trying to supplant us.
In 2049.
And he would not say it the way I would say it, but, you know, take your best shot, pal.
But I'd want him to know those are two things.
We're not just sitting behind watching.
steve bannon
Because you would advise it to Trump.
Trump confronted the Chinese Communist Party on the world stage with people waking up to some of the world leaders.
I saw that last night.
How would they compare?
Donald Trump's full confrontation with the Chinese Communist Party, with not just accommodation, it's worse than accommodation.
You're essentially kowtowing.
You're making excuses.
raheem kassam
Actually, it's handing a license for genocide is what it is.
If you're a bad actor on the world stage and you see that, you see a license to commit mass murder.
steve bannon
Rudy Giuliani, Mayor, do you agree with Raheem Kassam?
Do you think that that's what Biden did?
rudy giuliani
Yeah, I think he assumed the normal position.
That Biden assumed as vice president with China.
You know what that position is.
And he was submissive.
The best description could be submissive.
A number of newspapers, even liberal ones, pointed out he never referred to him as an opponent.
He did note China's desire to challenge the United States, but almost in a way that, that's okay.
That's all right.
He didn't say, You know, we're going to challenge you back, pal, and beat you or something like that.
So the reality is, on the things that Xi wants to accomplish, he looks at Biden and says, I don't have much of an opponent here.
Look, if the best he's going to do about the Uyghurs is tell me... I think the way he started it on human rights was so pathetic.
He said, we must speak up for human rights.
So we are.
I don't know if that was just a figure of speech, but it sounds like he doesn't want to speak up for human rights, but he has to.
steve bannon
You're going to have the podcast up tonight to do with it, particularly the readout from the two-hour conversation.
The same town hall, different topic.
He said that we're going to be, basically he expects things to be better by Christmases this year.
In New York City, which you were the greatest mayor the city ever had, can the city of New York Take the current protocols that they're going through for another year.
Can the economy, can the people, can law and order, can the family take, if he's like, oh yeah, you know, by Christmas should be, you know, getting back.
Can New York City take this, Mayor Giuliani?
rudy giuliani
No.
New York City is right now in a spiral that there is no logical prediction as to what would prevent that spiral.
Given the radical nature of the electorate in New York, and you know, people look back to when I was elected, it's a different city.
We didn't have AOCs, and I don't mean just her, but that whole group of people who looks at the world as if, as if we're, you know, we're a left-wing country, we should be re-dividing our wealth, we should be emulating Venezuela.
We had very little of that.
We had old-fashioned liberalism that could be appealed to come to the middle or occasionally vote for a Republican.
That hard core that went way back to electing LaGuardia, electing Lindsey as a Republican, electing me.
I don't see it there right now.
Now, maybe I'm wrong.
I'm studying it because I really would like to see one of these Republican candidates get elected.
The only hope is, God forbid, and you hate to say this, that things will get worse.
I mean, it's pretty bad right now.
Subway crime.
I don't know if you've been seeing New York, but subway crime for the last week is, you know, the only story in the New York Post correctly.
We've got people thrown on tracks.
We get people.
We have this crime going on now that I don't even remember.
They just come by and punch you in the face and kick you while you're down and walk away.
They don't even take anything.
It's just an act of total anger and domination.
steve bannon
But what's the anarchy about?
It seems like it's almost anarchy.
rudy giuliani
It goes back to my broken windows theory.
This idiot in City Hall rejected the broken windows theory when he first came into office.
He said he didn't believe in it.
Bloomberg used the broken windows theory.
Now, it wasn't mine.
It was Professor James Q. Wilson of Harvard.
So they all should have accepted it in New York.
It came from Harvard.
So he rejected it.
We're not going to pay attention to small crimes.
On the subway, the big small crime is you don't pay the fare.
Fare beating 30-40% when I became mayor.
Five weeks later, 2%.
It brought down crime 30%.
People that come into the subways to sucker punch you, rob you, rape you, they don't pay the fare.
So you interrupt them, number one.
Number two, even the ones that do come in, you identify them.
Because if they don't pay the fare, you take their picture, You take their fingerprints, half of them turn out to be violent felons.
This idiot does away with it.
And subway crime goes up 50%.
Subway ridership goes down 75%.
It really went up about 180%.
I mean, I tell people not to ride the subways.
unidentified
I have, you know, my friends, it's scary.
rudy giuliani
Yeah, he can't maybe take care of himself.
I make sure he gets driven home every night.
Wouldn't put him on a subway if I had to walk him home.
steve bannon
Mayor, your podcast tonight, it's coming out tonight, is about the CCP, about Xi and Biden.
It's another Rudy's Podcast on Fire.
How do people get the podcast?
You've got the WABC show every day at 3 o'clock.
You get the app and listen to it.
You've got the weekend show.
But tell people how they go to the podcast.
rudy giuliani
Rudy'sCommonSense.com.
And it should be there about 5.30, 6 o'clock tonight.
And then it'll be followed by an op-ed.
unidentified
An op-ed tomorrow?
rudy giuliani
Then I'll follow with an op-ed piece on Rudy's CommonSense.com so that we flesh out some of the things that have come up since then.
Because I think this is the most important foreign policy issue.
There's no doubt.
I mean, I'm only saying the obvious, Rahim.
China is the number one foreign policy problem we face.
Except for the internal possibility of overthrowing us, China is the only country that can challenge us.
steve bannon
Okay, Mayor, we've got to bounce.
The podcast comes on tonight.
We'll talk more about that after the break.
Mayor Giuliani, thank you very much.
Tom Della Baccara, next, in California.
unidentified
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steve bannon
Before Tom Del Beccaro was heading up the recall out there of Gavin Newsom and opening up the second front on the Biden administration, he's an old China hand.
Tom, real quickly, last night, Joe Biden's performance vis-a-vis China on the world stage, what's your assessment?
unidentified
Under Biden, he's physically and mentally the weakest president, whereas in a dangerous age, we live in this technological age, in the nuclear age, sure, nearly as much.
I say that what happened last night, unless they scramble dramatically, is the worst foreign policy statement since 1950, when Dean Acheson road out South Korea from US protection, which led to, in effect, a mini World War.
That is how dangerous that speech is.
And Rahim, it's good to see you again.
I haven't talked to you in a while.
He's 100% right.
What is going on right now is every tin cup dictator all the way to China feels emboldened because he's just, it's not just his physical weakness, it's not just that he stopped his administration with apologists for America and on and on and on, he's just not in control.
steve bannon
No, I think particularly, I want to get to the recall, but particularly comparing contrast Trump.
I mean, Trump's so forceful on so many, but particularly on China.
And that sent a message to the world stage.
That's the reason that we've got China boxed up right now and you're just going to let him out.
So it's, it's, it's very tragic.
Go ahead.
unidentified
It's a simple formula, peace through strength.
Whereas Jefferson said that which prepares you for war secures your speech.
I mean, I'm sorry, peace.
China, It plays the long game.
It doesn't need to roll over anybody's border especially when you lay down technologically and in so many other ways.
I got to tell you if I was in Taiwan right now and I saw that statement I I would be shivering.
steve bannon
Let's go to the recall.
What progress are you making?
People want to know about this.
Why is it important for our global audience, for a particular rest of the country, why should they care what's happening in California?
unidentified
I'm chairman of RescueCalifornia.org.
We have surpassed 1.6 million signatures and our goal to 2 million.
You can help us out at RescueCalifornia.org.
Listen, if you want accountability in government, Because that was in part what Donald Trump's entire mission was, to bring accountability.
If you want accountability in government, realize that the Democrats and the unions are at this 24-7 and we can't turn a blind eye, go to work, and hope they do the right thing.
So we did this recall in one of the bluest states in the country because we wanted to stand up to his corruption.
He just, Gavin Newsom, yesterday or the day before, gave a no-bid contract to his donors to administer the vaccine.
This recall isn't just about Gavin Newsom.
It isn't just about California.
It's about the entire country.
We've become a focal point.
For government accountability and given that they seem to think California is some sort of model for the country, that being Biden and Harris, which is ludicrous because we lead the nation in poverty and the hollowing out of the middle class.
If we can make this statement here, as you like to point out, we can undermine this entire narrative of California being so great.
Look, I love this place.
It's beautiful.
You used to hang out here before, you know, you got smarter than me.
We cannot allow this to go on.
We're making a statement and if 2 million people sign this, that's an amazing feat.
steve bannon
Okay, RescueCalifornia.com.
You've got to get people to go there.
California.org.
Go now, if you're watching the show, in the podcast, go.
You've got a couple of minutes here.
Walk through.
What's the timeline?
What's the critical path?
Where do you go from here?
unidentified
We have just three weeks remaining to finish off.
We think we'll hit 1.7 million by Sunday.
We have three weeks left.
We want 100,000 signatures a week.
And then the rest of the verification process takes place.
It's about a two month process.
Then in late May, they're going to declare that we have qualified the recall.
And from there, they're going to send an election, which should happen in August.
You know, California Democrats put about 700 bills a year on a governor's desk.
About 697 of them are just wasteful spending.
And this is a chance to slow that and keep in mind that California economy is should be 16 17% of the nation's economy.
The Central Valley used.
That was used to be lauded for saving or ending world hunger.
Now it's starved of water because of the bad enviro policies that are out there.
You know, California is a place, Steve, I don't know if you know this, they run commercials that say up in Northern California, turn off your energy at night because we can't collect solar energy at night.
That is the model for the country that Newsom and Harris want, and we have to stop it.
steve bannon
I got to tell you, you have, in his handling of the COVID, I got it real quickly, you've inspired people.
We're going to have later, from your thing of the day, there's a revolt in Arizona.
They're recalling Ducey, there's a process of recall of Ducey, and the supervisors of Maricopa County.
November 3rd is not over, ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah, people are being censured, they're saying, hey, guys shouldn't run again, they should, you know, resign.
But, there's, whether you're recalling Gavin Newsom, or particularly in Arizona because of the election on November 3rd, they're inspired by what's going on in California, they're going to recall Ducey, and they've started the process of recalling the Maricopa County.
Tom, we've got about 30 seconds left.
How do people get to you, both social media and how do they get to the site today?
unidentified
Okay, then go to RescueCalifornia.org and you can follow me on Parler at AtTomDel or Twitter at AtTomDelBacaro.
Thanks so much for having me on RescueCalifornia.org.
steve bannon
Rescue California, Tom Del Beccaro, the head of it out there.
They're trying to recall Gavin Newsom, and this is vitally important.
Remember, California has been the railhead of the money of Nancy Pelosi.
All her cash, all her donor cash comes from there.
Also, the tech oligarchs.
You know, in addition, every bad idea.
California is ahead of the curve in politics.
Every bad idea that's now in the Biden administration.
Hey, the real head of that bad idea was the state of California.
Tom, thank you very much for joining us and thank you for the insights into the Chinese Communist Party.
OK, we're going to continue on about exactly what Biden is doing.
It's total confusion, I think, about the school situation.
So we're going to come back in the next segment or start with Ron DeSantis.
Ron DeSantis lays down hard.
We've got a video of him and they're bringing in the CEO of Job Creators Network.
It has this amazing billboard up in Times Square.
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