Jan. 19, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| So you don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back to The War Room. | ||
| We're live from the Green Zone in what was our nation's capital. | ||
| Now it's an armed encampment. | ||
| Worse, more of an armed encampment than it was for President Lincoln's First Inaugural Address in March of 1861, of which I think that five or six states had already succeeded. | ||
| We were essentially 45 days or 30 days away from actual beginning of kinetic war in the War of the Rebellion. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| It is Tuesday, the 19th of January, the Year of Our Lord 2021. | ||
| And we're, you know, on all the different platforms. | ||
| I want to just, before we get, by the way, for the live chat and hashtag War on Pandemic, we have people that are all over it. | ||
| Our people, tell us your best comments. | ||
| We love, and this is for Winnie, about the election. | ||
| We love the fact that you're keeping us on point. | ||
| We want you to keep us on point, but we're never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to give up on the election fraud. | ||
| That's why, that's why you're having a faux inauguration right now. | ||
| It's not the coronavirus. | ||
| You're having a faux inauguration because he ran a faux campaign, right? | ||
| And we don't know where these votes came from. | ||
| And I'm sorry if Twitter doesn't like it. | ||
| I'm sorry if Google doesn't like it. | ||
| I'm sorry if the mainstream media doesn't like it. | ||
| Look at the polling. | ||
| Just look at the polling percentage of people. | ||
| I think 81% CNN's polls got 75% of Republicans. | ||
| The other poll that CNN put up the other day had 81% of Republicans think he's illegitimate or this was had massive voter fraud in it. | ||
| And the killer on that second poll was one-third, one-third of independents. | ||
| The NBC poll, correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Rahim Hassan, I think had 30% of independents. | ||
| NBC poll still got, their heads are still blown, but that Rasmussen's got a three-day average now that's gotten, if we can get the three, if Denver can put up the three-day average. | ||
| Rasmussen. | ||
| Rasmussen. | ||
| And by the way, Thingamajig is going to Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| The mayor is going to join us as soon as he's able to free himself up. | ||
| So the mayor's going to come on. | ||
| And why is the mayor coming on? | ||
| Because his head's blown up, like guys in the live chat on Bill Barr. | ||
| Bill Barr's first interview, he's got a thread, oh yeah, you know, running around and proving this voter fraud. | ||
| You know, I didn't see anything, but I warned about the mail-in ballots because it would be catastrophic, and they were, right? | ||
| And he laid out the reasons, but didn't want to do anything, right? | ||
| Afraid of being called a nativist, xenophobe, a racist, all that. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| When they start calling you that, they've run out of facts, right? | ||
| They've run out of facts. | ||
| So those types of invective they throw on you, don't let it stop you. | ||
| They're going to throw that all the time. | ||
| You just got to power through that and get to the facts, get to the receipts, get to what's going on. | ||
| We're going to do some live producing right here. | ||
| Yeah, let me take over while you do some live producing here because I got to get to the point that I just saw. | ||
| After four years, after four long years, it appears that CNN's Fearless reporting is back. | ||
| You know, I know they took four years off and they've been kind of handling President Trump with kid gloves. | ||
| Now they're fearless reporting's here. | ||
| Fair weather expected on inauguration day but snow flurries can't be ruled out. | ||
| Ample sunshine expected on Wednesday and what could be the sunniest inauguration day in Washington DC since Bill Clinton was sworn in. | ||
| This is the hard-hitting journalism we all expect and we've all wanted. | ||
| Zucker. | ||
| Okay, we've got Mayor Rudy Giuliani, but Mayor, before we bring you on, I want to go back to the now truncated Bill Barr interview. | ||
| If Denver can put up, and let's play the Bill Barr interview, and I want to get the response from America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani. | ||
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And this is Bill Barr's first interview since the storming of the U.S. | |
| Capitol 12 days ago. | ||
| As Attorney General he was a loyal supporter of the office of President and of the man inside it. | ||
| But on the issue of the legitimacy of November's election result they differed. | ||
| And he says those false concerns helped to encourage the violence. | ||
| Perhaps the debate about the integrity of the election was the final straw. | ||
| I think that that was the thing that precipitated the The riots on the Hill. | ||
| Now, I think it's always important to remember that most people are exercising their First Amendment rights. | ||
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But there was a substantial group, obviously, that went far beyond that and broke into the Capitol and tried to interfere with the proceedings. | |
| And that's unacceptable. | ||
| Certainly it's unacceptable, but Attorney General Barr, I think it was 500,000 a million people, right? | ||
| You had, you know, I don't know, a couple of thousand, right? | ||
| Maybe through, I don't know, do a head count. | ||
| A couple of thousand, but of that you had agent provocateurs, of which the mayor. | ||
| So, Mayor, you've known Bill Barr. | ||
| I mean, where's Bill Barr coming up with this now? | ||
| And here's what they're doing, they're moving the goalposts. | ||
| They can't prove that President Trump's speech, or Eastman's speech, or Rudy's speech, or any of the talks down there, which were really kind of these dry legal briefs, was to act as a predicate. | ||
| No offense. | ||
| It was act as a predicate. | ||
| I've seen you fired up before, Rudy, that was not, and I've seen the President, my daughter's down there freezing, she's saying, Dad, the President's given like, he's given a legal brief to predicate what Pence was going to do, and you've got a million people there freezing. | ||
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No, it is serious, but where is Bill Barr? | |
| And by the way, okay, folks, understand something. | ||
| There's no conspiracy, but they're no coincidences. | ||
| Bill Barr did this on the President's last full day in office for a reason. | ||
| Why did he choose ITV and give, you know, to a third-rate journalist, and quite frankly, a third-rate network, his first exclusive? | ||
| By the way, I like Rohit, who did the interview as a human being, but he's the guy that used to follow Nigel Ayround in 2015 on the campaign. | ||
| He's a total Grundoon. | ||
| Total Grundoon. | ||
| He's not somebody you give a real interview to. | ||
| When you get assigned the UKIP beat in 2015, you're a grundoon, okay? | ||
| Because I was over there. | ||
| You got assigned the UKIP beat. | ||
| I got assigned. | ||
| I was following you guys. | ||
| Okay, Mayor Giuliani, in all seriousness, what did Bill Barr just do? | ||
| It was treacherous what he just did. | ||
| I mean, first of all, he has no basis for it. | ||
| He was gone in the sense of being able to investigate any of the facts. | ||
| He leaves out the key fact that one of the most violent things that happened there, of course, was the shooting and the death. | ||
| That was all orchestrated by Antifa. | ||
| And it's on, once again, it's on film. | ||
| And the guy admits it just about. | ||
| You can see what they're trying to do. | ||
| They're trying to drive this from a peaceful protest, even a sort of certainly illegal break-in But no damage, just demonstrating to something that would be significant. | ||
| You have to have a murder for that. | ||
| So the most significant act that came out of that day, that day particularly, was the murder, the death. | ||
| Well, this guy is there, right there, filming the whole thing. | ||
| And if you look at the group, about the only person that was a Trump person was the poor woman who was shot. | ||
| All the rest of them were dressed up in their Antifa garb, A couple of them had MAGA hats on over black. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I have never seen a MAGA guy wearing an Antifa black block, which is what they call it. | ||
| It's admitted. | ||
| The guy's brother has basically testified against him. | ||
| Now, the great attorney general doesn't know that. | ||
| And second, you're absolutely right. | ||
| The talks that were given were going on while this happened. | ||
| People didn't run out of that speech. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Hang on for a second. | ||
| Hang on for a second. | ||
| I actually think, I take this very differently. | ||
| And by the way, that was the Air Force veteran that got shot by the security guard through the glass and the Antifa guys around there. | ||
| Hang on, hang on. | ||
| I think Barr, they now know that you've come up with this Antifa and other evidence and Rahim Ghassan of the National Post has come up with the timeline. | ||
| And the New York Times has had to buy into the timeline. | ||
| So they can't prove what they were standing up there in the House the other night, they can't prove that the speeches, because they know this was pre-planned. | ||
| And they know the timeline that these guys are already up there, sometimes before the president even took the stage or early in the speech. | ||
| And it would take, I don't know, 30 or 45 minutes to walk up there, which most of the crowd did. | ||
| That's why they all came up, saw something was going on. | ||
| And very few of them, of the entire crowd, ever even entered the grounds down there by President Grant's statue. | ||
| Very few of them. | ||
| No, I think Barr sees that and sees your argument. | ||
| He's shifting to something totally different of which he was here. | ||
| He's saying, oh no, no, no, no, what precipitated it was really, what precipitated it was really the running around Rudy Giuliani and others running around for 10 or 12 weeks talking about election fraud. | ||
| And he was there and he said, hey, there's no election fraud, I can't see anything. | ||
| That's the point he's trying to make. | ||
| They're moving the goalposts because you've already blown up their initial argument, right? | ||
| You've already blown up their initial argument. | ||
| How about we blow up their second one? | ||
| You see those guys scaling the walls? | ||
| You think they were worried about voter fraud? | ||
| You think the guys with the bats batting things in dressed up all in black were worried about vote? | ||
| Does this look like a voter fraud crowd to you? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| These people had nothing to do with voter fraud. | ||
| Look at the text that we have setting it up. | ||
| This was going to be a peaceful protest. | ||
| Surely. | ||
| Nothing more than that. | ||
| And it was hijacked by Antifa and two other groups, and turned into a violent action. | ||
| If there were some Trump people that engaged in violence, it wasn't instigated by them. | ||
| People who instigated this were not Donald Trump, Professor Eastman, Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump Jr., or any of us. | ||
| People who instigated it were Antifa, Gophar, Gopar, whatever the heck the name of it is, and a couple of other groups. | ||
| They deliberately planned... | ||
| They deliberately planned it, irrespective of anything. | ||
| It had nothing to do with the vote. | ||
| And secondly, the claims of voter fraud are true. | ||
| Just last night, I got three more affidavits from my witnesses saying, can we still do something about it? | ||
| Three more people, one of whom wants protection, who watch false ballots being made. | ||
| New witnesses! | ||
| Now! | ||
| Am I supposed to not believe them? | ||
| I've met probably not 100, but 70 people? | ||
| American citizens? | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| He was the Attorney General of the United States. | ||
| But hang on for a second. | ||
| He was the Attorney General of the United States. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| You went around, let's leave aside the machines, let's leave aside the ballots being shred, let's leave all that aside. | ||
| I'm just saying on the basics of the core vertical of, you know, illegal aliens voting, underage people voting, dead people voting, that and also then the non-chain of title, non-custody of the mail-in ballots, just on those two alone. | ||
| How do you differ? | ||
| The Attorney General of the United States said, I didn't see anything. | ||
| I didn't see it, Rudy. | ||
| What do you say to that? | ||
| I say somehow, somewhere he forgot the oath of office that he took. | ||
| Somewhere around the time that he didn't follow up on the Biden allegations because he was afraid to go after Biden. | ||
| Somewhere around the time they got the hard drive and the hard drive shows definite evidence of numerous bribes over 30 years. | ||
| A second year prosecutor could put that case together. | ||
| But how about the danger being posed for minors? | ||
| That's admitted on the tape. | ||
| Nobody takes any action there. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| Not the local Delaware police. | ||
| Not the FBI. | ||
| Not Joe Biden. | ||
| I know what's on that hard drive. | ||
| Backwards and forwards. | ||
| It was given to me. | ||
| Mayor, hang on. | ||
| We're going to come back to the hard drive. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| The failure of law enforcement to do anything about it is illegal. | ||
| We're going to come back to the hard drive in the next second, because the Daily Mail's got a story that James Biden went to, saw the hard drive and said, you're going to lose the election because of this, and I apologize. | ||
| And Joe Biden supposedly told him, don't worry about it. | ||
| OK, so that's breaking in the Daily Mail today. | ||
| But hang on. | ||
| I just want to go back. | ||
| Well, I tell you what, let's take a break. | ||
| I want to go back to the fact that The Attorney General is saying that, hey, rooting these guys running around, the voter fraud stuff, and the President is what precipitated the riot. | ||
| I want to get your response to that. | ||
| The President still has a venue to adjudicate this for our audience. | ||
| It is called his Senate trial. | ||
| If he doesn't just argue process, he has the full thing to defend himself. | ||
| To defend himself before the receipts. | ||
| Can I just do some breaking news here real quick? | ||
| The Associated Press is reporting that two U.S. | ||
| Army National Guard members are being removed from the security mission to secure Joe Biden's presidential inauguration due to, quote, ties to far-right fringe group militias. | ||
| No plot against Biden was found. | ||
| Okay, that's the Associated Press. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break, pay some bills here, and then we'll return with Mayor Rudy Giuliani on this whole situation with the upcoming Senate trial and also the story breaking in the Daily Mail about the Biden family being very concerned about the hard drive from hell. | ||
| We'll return in just a moment. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back to War Room. | ||
| Okay, Mayor, so I just want to ask you straight up. | ||
| Attorney General of the United States says, hey, getting everybody all worked up on that is what precipitated this. | ||
| You were one of the key guys going around the country in Gettysburg and making presentations in Arizona and making presentations in Georgia, making presentations. | ||
| We've got letters from the State Senate of Pennsylvania saying, hey, we had a problem here in Georgia. | ||
| You've got guys. | ||
| How do you respond to Bill Barr? | ||
| Bill Barr just saying, you know, there was nothing there. | ||
| How do you respond to him? | ||
| Well, that would be like saying if I was going around the country and pointing out the evil of slavery or segregation, and some people got into a situation where they got too violent, if that's the case, and acted up. | ||
| Of course, I didn't want them to do that, but this was a justifiable cause that I was pursuing. | ||
| I have proof of that. | ||
| The media can say it's debunked all at once. | ||
| They can't tear up my nine-hour tape of 30,000 votes in living color being stolen in Georgia that would have changed the result in Georgia. | ||
| That's an extraordinarily serious federal crime. | ||
| The real problem, the real cause of the violence, I think, if you want something other than Antifa, is Bill Barr not investigating it. | ||
| If the people are angry, they're angry that these crimes have gone unredressed. | ||
| And we've gone two years with crimes unredressed. | ||
| Here we're finding out about letters that would have exculpated President Trump that go back four years ago when the Justice Department was hiding them. | ||
| The FBI doesn't investigate serious federal crimes involving Biden and his son that put right in their lap. | ||
| They don't bother to look at pictures. | ||
| That an ordinary detective told me should have resulted in an arrest immediately? | ||
| That's Bill Barr! | ||
| People are outraged at the breakdown of our law under Bill Barr. | ||
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to break down our law under Bill's bar. | |
| But it takes some responsibility. | ||
| The president's going to have a venue to adjudicate this, right? | ||
| This trial, they keep saying they're going to put him on trial. | ||
| And by the way, breaking news, I think Asaf, the two senators, can be sworn in tomorrow. | ||
| So Schumer is going to control the Senate. | ||
| The Democrats will control the Senate with the vice president. | ||
| There is going to be a trial and it's very uncertain. | ||
| I think the president and others are talking about or Lindsey Graham's talking about maybe some short version where they debate, you know, whether they even gave him due process. | ||
| Obviously, they didn't. | ||
| There's so many, you know, structural things around the legal aspects of this. | ||
| But he does have a, he does have a venue, if he so chooses, to put this forward and to shut up the Bill Barrs of the world. | ||
| In the Senate trial, an opportunity for him to make his case to the American people that you've got, that he's got, he's got the receipts here and can show them as Peter Navarro and people come on the show time and time again. | ||
| And the witnesses at your hearings, the state senators, all of the process they did in the Judiciary Committee down in Georgia, what they did out there in the Judiciary Committee out in Arizona, you've got all that. | ||
| You've got witnesses, you've got the mathematics, you have all that. | ||
| And that's not even talking about machines or anything like that. | ||
| I'm talking about just the basic two verticals. | ||
| So, Mayor, are we going to see that or do you think we're going to see a truncated vote? | ||
| Which, by the way, the President's perfectly, not just capable, he's actually righteous in just doing that because this is such a sham of how they put it forward. | ||
| And now we know they can't prove, there's no proof there was any correlation between the rally itself and what happened on Capitol Hill because of the timeline and other things. | ||
| But he will have the potential If he was to choose that potential, they would fold in a second and not have a trial because the Democrats and the Republicans don't want to sit there for six days and have to look at the evidence. | ||
| Well, I mean, it is. | ||
| I mean, there are there are several choices, all of them from the president's point of view, very powerful choices that will result in him winning. | ||
| He has to make up his mind as to what he wants to do. | ||
| And as you know, Turning client privilege really prohibits me from telling you what I think he's going to do. | ||
| But I can outline both options for you. | ||
| I mean, the first one you almost would ordinarily take. | ||
| It's like they're telling you we're going to drop the case. | ||
| So, of course, if they're going to drop the case, you let them drop the case. | ||
| But if they don't follow through on that and they want to extend that and they want to get some cheap shots in, which I can't imagine Schumer is not going to want to do. | ||
| Then I would think the option of going to a full trial on the merits would be devastating for the Democrats. | ||
| The evidence of this voter fraud, you know it. | ||
| You know it real well, Steve. | ||
| It could be one of the strongest cases I've ever seen. | ||
| When I would show it to people in these legislatures, even the legislators who follow it would say, oh my goodness, I never realized that happened. | ||
| You mean you actually registered 684,000 illegal votes? | ||
| You actually registered 684,000 illegal votes. | ||
| You have a record of them in Pennsylvania, and I show them the record. | ||
| You actually have a film stealing 30,000 votes, which somehow was converted into 130,000? | ||
| Show me the film. | ||
| Show me the tape. | ||
| Oh, my goodness. | ||
| This is a major fraud. | ||
| That's what will happen. | ||
| American people will be sitting at home hearing about this debunked voter fraud. | ||
| They'll find out that six states were stolen. | ||
| They'll see proof beyond any doubt that six states were stolen. | ||
| And I think we could come pretty close to calculating the number of votes by which he actually won those states within a margin of, let's say, 300,000 to 500,000 in Pennsylvania, 90,000 to 120,000 in Georgia. | ||
| I mean, Peter would be an excellent witness. | ||
| Peter Navarro would be a devastating witness because his people have calculated it almost down to the vote. | ||
| Mayor, for our audience, you've known Chuck Schumer for a long time. | ||
| Chuck Schumer essentially takes operational control tomorrow, at the same time Joe Biden takes over the executive branch. | ||
| You've known Chuck Schumer a long time. | ||
| If you were in the President's situation, would you trust Chuck Schumer if he made some commitment to you about how he's going to do this trial? | ||
| Would you go all in 100% on that? | ||
| I'm not sure I trust anybody in that body. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| They've double-crossed him so often. | ||
| I can't possibly, I can't possibly advise. | ||
| Trust him. | ||
| You have to, you got to go with your instinct and take it on face. | ||
| I'm not saying this as a, well, I guess it is a personal criticism, but I don't mean it as a personal criticism. | ||
| But how often have commitments been broken? | ||
| Not just by the, gosh, maybe even more by the Republicans, Steve. | ||
| If they said to him, oh, don't worry. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| You just make your motion. | ||
| We'll grant the motion. | ||
| Case dismissed. | ||
| I can't see them not taking cheap shots. | ||
| Can you? | ||
| No, sir. | ||
| I think the reality of what the President has and what the evidence has is so overwhelming and compelling that they will never allow that to come forward. | ||
| They will fold like a house of cards before they let go. | ||
| I'd like to have Denver. | ||
| I want to shift topics. | ||
| Denver, if they could put up the Daily Mail headline. | ||
| So, the Daily Mail's got a story talking about James Biden. | ||
| Who was very concerned and I think actually said to Joe Biden when the hard drive from hell came out Hey, this could this could stop your run for the presidency And and and Joe Biden's Brexit said something like don't worry about it or you know, you didn't do anything wrong or something like that The reason I want to put this up is not what James Biden thought and and and what he you know And it wasn't just about the Ukraine. | ||
| Is that the headline right headline on my glass? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, I don't have the not Ukraine but also about They're failed ventures, as they call them, with the Chinese Communist Party, state-owned industries. | ||
| Mayor, here's what still boggles my mind. | ||
| Bill Barr, who is, you know, sitting here now blowing up the president. | ||
| Was it not his FBI that this was delivered to back in December of 2019? | ||
| December of 2019, they got this hard drive with all the information on it. | ||
| We know now it's not Russian disinformation. | ||
| The Bidens have not denied one thing on that hard drive. | ||
| And now you've got James Biden understanding how kinetic it was to say, hey, this could blow us up. | ||
| How did the Justice Department and the FBI not come forward immediately in December? | ||
| And two things would have happened. | ||
| There would have been no impeachment trial. | ||
| The impeachment was just getting worked up. | ||
| The impeachment trial could collapse because the hard drive shows that, hey, the phone call in the Ukraine was perfect. | ||
| As importantly, Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren would have been the nominee, one of the ones on the populist left. | ||
| Joe Biden was kind of on the ropes even then. | ||
| He was about to implode in Iowa and New Hampshire. | ||
| When the Wall Street had to take him off. | ||
| The New York Times, remember, endorsed Warren and Klobuchar. | ||
| Warren and Klobuchar. | ||
| So, Mayor, how can this thing is so radioactive? | ||
| And James Biden knows it's radioactive. | ||
| I want to go back to the system. | ||
| How does the system protect Joe Biden and not come forward and let the American people see what was going over over a year ago in December 2019? | ||
| Because the system wanted to defeat Donald Trump so badly. | ||
| They were willing to commit crimes to do it. | ||
| I mean, in essence, they're ignoring this clear evidence of serious crime at the highest levels of government is a total dereliction of duty. | ||
| I mean, in my view, they're all disgraced for not having done it. | ||
| Not only that, in January of last year, I turned over to the U.S. | ||
| Attorney in Pittsburgh hundreds and hundreds of pages of documents Affidavits, at least 10 live witnesses that would have personally testified that Joe Biden was involved, personally testified against him in court, no anonymous witnesses, that he was involved in bribes, large bribes, and that the person that was getting the bribe from the Ukrainian was not the kid, it was him. | ||
| The bribe was for Joe. | ||
| It was funneled through payments to Hunter. | ||
| And then all you need is a hard drive Where you have a text from Hunter Briden to his daughter saying, I pay for all the family expenses, 30 years, 30 years, and I have to kick back, still have to kick back 50% to pop. | ||
| I mean, there's the evidence of the conspiracy and how the payment was made. | ||
| It's a typical bad man situation. | ||
| And James was the bad man when Hunter wasn't. | ||
| And then the wife was the bad woman when Hunter wasn't. | ||
| That's all over the hard drive. | ||
| Mayor, we got to bounce. | ||
| We're going to put up a social media... | ||
| We're gonna put up a social media We're going to put up your podcast and all that. | ||
| Rudy's podcast. | ||
| Mayor, thank you very much for joining us here. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Honor always to have you on. | ||
| We'll be back with Mark McCray and CIS next. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back to War Room. | ||
| So much going on. | ||
| I want to thank Mayor Giuliani. | ||
| Make sure it's Rudy's Common Sense. | ||
| It's one of the hottest podcasts in the world. | ||
| You've got to see it. | ||
| I think it comes out every Tuesday and Friday. | ||
| We'll make sure we get the exact time. | ||
| And of course, you go to Rudy Giuliani on Twitter. | ||
| He's now on Parler. | ||
| I think Parler's going to be back up. | ||
| What about Gab Rahim Ghassan? | ||
| Exploding. | ||
| I mean just I think three million more users in general over the last couple of days. | ||
| I am now up to 75,000 followers. | ||
| That's gab.com forward slash Rahim. | ||
| That's where we break news now. | ||
| So and we're gonna have the CEO Andrew Torba back on from Gab. | ||
| In the next couple days, we're trying to get all these social media platforms. | ||
| We had clout hub here yesterday to talk about what their future plans are, etc. | ||
| So I want to go to. | ||
| We're going to turn now to Mark Krikorian from Center of Immigration Studies. | ||
| I think one of the top. | ||
| Brains in our country about the immigration situation. | ||
| Mark, we know that the Biden, the signal, not the noise. | ||
| They're going to talk a lot of stuff about EOs on the Paris Climate Accord and all that, but they're coming in with their, a piece of legislation they've already drafted, right, to essentially give citizenship, a pathway to citizenship, to between 11 and 15 million or 20 million, however you count them, illegal aliens. | ||
| But before we get to there, and that's why folks out there have to stay focused on what the Biden administration, the four overlapping, interconnected crises, they said the pandemic, the economic crisis that triggered a social justice, racial justice crisis and a climate change crisis. | ||
| That's from the Biden administration. | ||
| Yet they're leading with immigration, a fully baked or in this case, a fully half-baked piece of legislation. | ||
| But Mark, We have another crisis. | ||
| In the run-up to 2018, I'm very particular about the situation in Central America. | ||
| When I was in the White House, I actually advocated to have a Five Nations meeting in McAllen, Texas, and bring the Five Nations together from Central America and Mexico and the United States, because it's a human tragedy down there. | ||
| I mean, nobody doubts that. | ||
| And if you were down there, we'd probably be doing the same thing. | ||
| So it's a tragedy of biblical proportions. | ||
| But once again, we're back in the situation. | ||
| I think we have another caravan coming up, and actually some of the Biden guys are saying, no, no, don't come, don't come. | ||
| You know, we got to get this sorted. | ||
| Walk our audience through the facts that you know them. | ||
| What's precipitated this? | ||
| And then where are we going to handle this on the eve of getting this massive immigration bill tomorrow? | ||
| The caravan that was in the news over the last couple of days seems to have been stopped. | ||
| It was the Guatemalan police, riot police, broke it up. | ||
| They were actually attacked by the caravanners, or at least the people at the front of the line, with rocks, sticks. | ||
| I mean, it was a pretty violent thing. | ||
| The Guatemalans broke it up. | ||
| So it looks like this caravan has come to an end. | ||
| Now, you know, anything could happen, but it looks like they've succeeded in stopping this one. | ||
| The video from it is really quite You know, alarming with these people attacking the cops, pushing them aside, rushing past. | ||
| But they seem to have gotten them, turned them around, rounded a bunch of them up and deported them. | ||
| But that's not the end of the story, because this wasn't just a one-off thing. | ||
| These people are clearly, they just openly say that the reason they're doing this is because of Biden's coming into office. | ||
| An analyst down to southern Mexico and Guatemala a year ago, and he was talking to Central Americans trying to sneak North and unprompted, they said, yeah, we're doing this because we're going to kind of bide our time in Mexico. | ||
| And then when the Democrats win, when Trump loses, uh, we're going to then, you know, come in because the Democrats will let us in. | ||
| They didn't know Biden was going to be the nominee. | ||
| Nobody did yet. | ||
| But they knew what the score was. | ||
| And now that Biden has, in fact, won, he's going to be sworn in tomorrow. | ||
| This is, you know, this is explicitly the reason they're coming. | ||
| Let me just read you a quick little quote from one of the people who spoke to AFP, the big French wire service. | ||
| And he said, I think that with this new president, things will change for a migrant who arrives without papers, because with Trump, We are screwed, unquote. | ||
| This is what a Honduran migrant told a reporter. | ||
| This is why they're coming. | ||
| They understand that if they can get to the border, get their foot across the line, then they're basically home free. | ||
| And, you know, the Biden transition person you referred to said, you know, don't come. | ||
| This is not a good time to come. | ||
| What that means is Let's get this amnesty bill through Congress and signed and then you guys, you know, then you're upset. | ||
| You guys can come in and we're not going to stop you. | ||
| It's really, you know, this is going to get worse. | ||
| And the Biden people are uncomfortable with it, obviously, because having this kind of footage On American TV while they're debating an amnesty bill is not helpful to their cause, and yet, you know, the illegal immigrants are not cooperating. | ||
| Here's the other reason it's not helpful to their cause. | ||
| We had Cortez walk through it. | ||
| Trump was on fire. | ||
| The economic nationalism and border security and safety of these predominantly Hispanic counties and down in the Rio Grande Valley His message is working. | ||
| The American citizens down there of Hispanic descent, Star County is 96%, Hidalgo, you know, they get it. | ||
| You need border security. | ||
| This is not demonizing the people from Central America or Latin America. | ||
| There are massive problems down there. | ||
| And somehow we have to work together to sort them. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But a solution is not just coming across our border as a illegal alien, as a non-citizen to come here. | ||
| Can you walk through right now what President Trump did? | ||
| What's the current status of this situation of like the family separations? | ||
| Are people staying back and have to wait in Mexico? | ||
| You're already hearing Biden, he's going to sign, you know, 12 executive orders tomorrow to undo everything Trump did in this. | ||
| What's the bid and the ask on that, Mark? | ||
| The probably the most important thing that President Trump was able to do to stop the flow of the Central Americans seeking asylum, supposedly, really using asylum claims as a kind of gimmick to get into the U.S., is what is colloquially known as the Remain in Mexico program. | ||
| And the point of that is that third country people, mostly Central Americans, Who came to a port of entry or crossed illegally and said, I want asylum. | ||
| They said the magic words they'd been coached to say. | ||
| Didn't just get let go into the United States anymore. | ||
| That's the way it had been under Obama. | ||
| And that's the way it had continued for a while under Trump. | ||
| What Trump did is he got Mexico to agree to take those people back, which they didn't have to do because they're not Mexicans, but to take them back so that they wait until their hearing dates. | ||
| They wait in Mexico. | ||
| Rather than just be let go into the U.S. | ||
| where they'll never be seen again very often. | ||
| That has really succeeded in breaking the back of that out of control situation with people coming across the border. | ||
| Biden has said he's going to end that and that he's going to end other programs like a safe third country program, so-called, with some of these Central American countries so that if you pass through them, And had claimed asylum, we can send you back and you have to apply for asylum there. | ||
| And only if you get rejected, then would you be considered here. | ||
| So the point is there was a, there was a suite of policies that Trump put into place that tried to, and I think succeeded to a significant degree to return asylum to what it should be, which is the last resort for desperate people, rather than just a way of kind of Forum shopping, as you will. | ||
| In other words, a kind of a stratagem to get into the United States. | ||
| Biden's going to end all of that. | ||
| And the result is going to be a return to what we had a few years ago. | ||
| And Biden is going to be faced with a hard choice within, you know, another month or so, where people are going to be at the border trying to storm bridges. | ||
| And he's going to have to decide, is he going to use tear gas on them? | ||
| Or is he just going to wave them into the United States? | ||
| Neither one of those is politically palatable to the Biden people. | ||
| And it's, frankly, if it weren't so bad for the country, I'd say get your popcorn and watch it. | ||
| But it is bad. | ||
| Well, is it? | ||
| But isn't our relationship with Mexico, though, that Mexico will help us in that thing? | ||
| You won't have that kind of a draconian choice that actually we've got a working with President Trump. | ||
| You've had a working relationship with Mexico. | ||
| Up to now, yes, absolutely. | ||
| In fact, much better than I expected. | ||
| The President of Mexico, he's known by his initials, AMLO, A-M-L-O. | ||
| He actually and Trump seem to get along. | ||
| I mean, I didn't expect that at all. | ||
| Now, Trump has, you know, played some hardball. | ||
| He said, look, you guys need to work with us or we're going to have trade sanctions. | ||
| And even though we depend a lot on trade with Mexico, it's a lot more important to them than it is to us. | ||
| So they've really, Mexico really has been playing ball. | ||
| They have stationed their National Guard down on their southern border to bottle up people down there. | ||
| And they, you know, have worked with us more up here at the northern border. | ||
| The question is, how long is that going to last without Trump in charge? | ||
| And even if AMLO, the Mexican president, wanted to keep working with us, he's got his own forces, political forces, that are pushing against working with us. | ||
| And with Trump there, he had an excuse. | ||
| He said, look, well, the big bad orange man is making me do this. | ||
| There's nothing we can do about it. | ||
| Once Biden is there, that excuse doesn't exist for him. | ||
| So I think you're gonna see a weakening of the resolve, not right away, but over time, over the next few months, in Mexico and in Guatemala, to help stem this. | ||
| And once the first significant group of people gets through, across the border, into the US, then it's Katy, bar the door. | ||
| What about... | ||
| Talk to us about what do you anticipate or what do you know about this bill that's going to be dropped tomorrow, this amnesty bill? | ||
| I just know what's been reported, but it's pretty clear what they're going to do. | ||
| It's going to be sort of half, if you will, of previous amnesty proposals, because in the past it was always Okay, we're going to amnesty all these people in exchange for promises to enforce the law tomorrow, so we won't have more illegal aliens. | ||
| The Biden approach is we're going to amnesty all of these people, and there's not going to be any enforcement, and you're going to like it. | ||
| Tough luck. | ||
| Screw you. | ||
| I mean, there's not going to be any enforcement. | ||
| The only even pretend aspect of this that would Deal with the reasons or the ways people are migrating is we're going to have, you know, more development aid for Central America. | ||
| I'm not against that. | ||
| But, you know, first of all, it's not clear development aid actually does any good. | ||
| We've been doing this for 50, 60 years around the world, and it seems to actually do more harm than good. | ||
| But even if it worked, development is something that will take generations To reduce the pressure to emigrate from these countries. | ||
| Decades. | ||
| There's just no way in the short run, if anything, economic development increases the number of people who leave their country because now they've got, you know, they got some resources. | ||
| They got two nickels to rub together and they've got connections around the world, especially in the United States. | ||
| So there's no serious part of this bill that would offset the amnesty. | ||
| With measures to make sure we don't have another 10 million illegal aliens a few years down the road. | ||
| And if it doesn't have even the pretend element of limiting future illegal immigration, it's, you know, it ought to be dead on arrival. | ||
| I'm afraid it's not going to be, though. | ||
| OK, Mark, real quickly, you've got about 20 seconds. | ||
| How do people get to you on Twitter or other social media? | ||
| Well, our site is online, CIS.org. | ||
| I'm on Twitter if you like snark and sarcasm. | ||
| At Mark S. as in Steven. | ||
| Mark S. Krikorian. | ||
| Mark Krikorian from CIS. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| We look forward to this bill tomorrow and getting you back on to do some deep dive analysis on it. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Rahim, thank you, sir. | ||
| Top guy in immigration. | ||
| Okay, we're going to return in a moment to talk about breaking news. | ||
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| A big amnesty bill is going to drop tomorrow. | ||
| Also, I think you're going to see much more focus on what this trial from the impeachment of the president is going to be. | ||
| There's a lot of talk, or it's going to be short, and they're going to debate the due process and all the technical problems they had with this and how it was a rush to judgment and get out there quick. | ||
| Or Schumer going to try to change the rules and then the president's got the backup of actually going and arguing why he didn't instigate the the riot up on at the Capitol by his speech and then can actually lay out the what now bars moving the goalposts that it was his going around and and trying to get a fair and legal accounting on the election and so he's got the evidence for both. | ||
| So we'll have to see. | ||
| That's all going to be breaking. | ||
| We'll be back here at five national pulses on top of this at three. | ||
| I want to go back to this National Guard situation. | ||
| It's a very dangerous situation. | ||
| You got 25 or 30,000 National Guard troops here in town for what threat has never really been put. | ||
| They're saying this chatter on there's I see. | ||
| Intelligence community chatter, but they really haven't come up and said, hey, you've turned this into a green zone, the central government complex. | ||
| What is the threat? | ||
| And what? | ||
| I mean, you're kind of DEFCON 2 right now, maybe DEFCON 1. | ||
| And then we've had some other breaking news today during the show. | ||
| Yeah, again, we've got to go back and explain this to people because Washington DC, I understand, is a very, very remote place for a lot of people in this country. | ||
| But it is the place that dictates how you are allowed, and I can't believe I have to say that to an American audience, but it is increasingly true, allowed to live your life, whether you're allowed to open your businesses, whether you're allowed to say certain things, whether you're allowed On platforms that have declared themselves the public square and now work very hard to keep you out of it. | ||
| And remember, they harangued, harassed, demonized an entire political movement and its leader, Donald J. Trump, for wanting to erect a border fence or wall around the country, but now here they are erecting several layers of fencing around the government. | ||
| So that's where we stand at the moment and it bears reminding ourselves and repeating and it bears looking at some of these pictures of the National Guard being deputized by night the other night as well. | ||
| 2,000 of them added to the complement of about 3,000 existing U.S. | ||
| Marshals so that they now have the power of arrest. | ||
| I mean, the idea of the National Guard executing a warrant, for instance, absolutely Terrifying as a concept here, but this is what they've been put here to do in the absence of actual crowds. | ||
| They have crowded the US military and now in addition to that, as we know, the FBI and the DOJ have been going through some of the social media posts and Facebook groups and things that the National Guardsmen have been Members of, and have now suspended from duty in Washington D.C. | ||
| two National Guardsmen for what they say are ties to fringe right-wing militias. | ||
| No plot against Biden was found. | ||
| Now, remember, the Associated Press here is quoting two anonymous sources on this. | ||
| An army official, they say, and an intelligence official, who they say spoke to the AP on the condition of anonymity due to Defense Department media regulations. | ||
| They did not say which fringe group the Guard members are alleged to belong to or what unit they served in. | ||
| In other words, you have people just saying stuff that isn't checkable in any way and the establishment corporate media is running those statements from the Department of Defense Army official, intelligence official, without being able to prove any of it. | ||
| I suspect that of course we will find out in the long run that this wasn't a particularly interesting or intriguing Affiliation that these people had. | ||
| Nevertheless, what does it portend and what does it tell us? | ||
| It tells us that the apparatus of the state, the military apparatus of the state, is being used now by Joe Biden and by DoD army intelligence officials to create a Praetorian Guard that can only serve if they have overtly stated allegiance to political candidate Joe Biden. | ||
| You know, Biden's not Commander-in-Chief yet. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| So there are other people that are getting those, they're running those commands through. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| So that's all got to be, I think that all ought to come to light, exactly what's going on here. | ||
| Let's talk about, I want to talk about the faux, about the flags. | ||
| It's absolutely stunning what it looks like, and at night it's amazing visual, during the day it's amazing visual, but it definitely limits the number of people that can come to this inauguration tomorrow. | ||
| What do you think that's about? | ||
| You can't have anybody out there now. | ||
| I mean, it's a sea of these flags that they've placed in the National Mall. | ||
| Which, by the way, I don't think we can call the National Mall anyway now, right? | ||
| The nation is not allowed there. | ||
| The nation is not allowed access to the National Mall. | ||
| It's not the National Mall anymore. | ||
| It's the Government Mall. | ||
| It's the State Mall. | ||
| It's the Establishment Mall. | ||
| That's what they've done to this thing. | ||
| They've put the 56 giant pillars of light on all sides to represent the number of states and territories. | ||
| Um, of the United States. | ||
| No, no, no, uh, consideration for the energy usage and climate change and blah, blah, blah, everything we always hear from the political left there. | ||
| But, but what they've done here is high, uh, you know, uh, um, put the National Mall behind all of this fencing behind, barbed wire, by the way, barbed wire, 20-foot fencing here in Washington, D.C. | ||
| You can't even get to the National Mall in, in these areas now. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they know they cannot attract a crowd, because they know that... I don't even know anybody that voted for Joe Biden outside of Washington DC, right? | ||
| And they just know full well that they cannot have people there so they'll make an excuse. | ||
| Firstly, by the way, firstly it was the virus. | ||
| You can't come because of the virus. | ||
| And then people were like, oh yeah, but it's the inauguration of the president, some people will want to go at least, like some people I'm sure would have voted for Joe Biden. | ||
| And they go, no, no, no, no, we can't have like two, three hundred people out there on the National Mall, put some little flags in the ground so that nobody can freely walk around or stand outside there. | ||
| They're going to announce, they're going to announce tomorrow, oh yeah, by the way, we've got to do it in the bay, we've got to do it in the skiff, you know, it's too much of a terror threat, we've got to do it in the skiff. | ||
| Nobody will ever see pictures of Joe Biden being inaugurated. | ||
| So what is the national pulse? | ||
| What are you covering at three? | ||
| So we're going to have all Real America's Voice correspondents from all around the country who are reporting from different areas on specialized reporting around surrounding this inauguration. | ||
| We'll also be covering some new breaking news that we have up on the National Pulse right now about the Biden picks being tied again to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Of course, CNN fearless reporting is focusing on the weather right now. | ||
| We're focusing on the news. | ||
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