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Ep 668: Cathedral of Lights (w/ Boris Epshteyn, Jack Posobiec, Carol Swain)
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Well, the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China, and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Stopping short of saying he incited the rioters.
I'll leave it to the people who are looking into the genesis of this to say whether incitement was involved.
william barr
I don't know if I'd use the word inevitable, but I think that when you start suppressing free speech, when people lose confidence in the media, and also when they lose faith in the integrity of elections, you're going to have some people resort to violence.
chuck schumer
Tomorrow, we will celebrate one of democracy's core attributes, the peaceful transfer of power.
albeit under much different circumstances than most Americans are used to.
Rioters, insurrectionists, white supremacists, and domestic terrorists tried to prevent the transfer of power.
They were incited by none other than the President of the United States.
They have failed.
Though they have made the transition of power anything but peaceful, democracy's oldest and most revered tradition, the peaceful passing of the torch, will take place tomorrow.
We are going to go ahead and get started.
We must remain vigilant.
We must remain strong.
If we do, democracy will always prevail, despite what these evil terrorists tried to do.
The peaceful passing of the torch will take place tomorrow, as it has for generations.
mitch mcconnell
The last time the Senate convened, we had just reclaimed the Capitol from violent criminals who tried to stop Congress from doing our duty.
The mob was fed lies.
They were provoked by the President and other powerful people.
And they tried to use fear and violence to stop a specific proceeding of the first branch of the federal government, which they did not like.
But we pressed on.
We stood together and said an angry mob would not get veto power over the rule of law in our nation, not even for one night.
We certified the people's choice for their 46th president.
Tomorrow, President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Harris will be sworn in.
We'll have a safe and successful inaugural right here on the West Front of the Capitol, the space that President Bush 41 called democracy's front porch.
steve bannon
Okay, live from the Green Zone that is now our nation's capital, or at least in the center of the government complex, you're in the War Room.
It is Tuesday, the 19th of January, Year of the Lord 2021, with a podcast now over 30 million Downloads John Frederick's Radio Network nationwide, also Real America's Voice and all of its apparatuses.
I'm going to get into how you can download the apps and how you can get into the live chat.
A few minutes ago, the President of the United States, 45th President, just finished his farewell address to the nation.
It was up on Right Side Broadcast.
It'll be at 7 o'clock.
on Real America's Voice.
So it'll be 7 o'clock showing here in commentary and observations.
Tomorrow morning at 8 a.m.
the President of the United States, the 45th President, will depart from Andrews Air Force Base and it's been announced today that Mike Pence, Mitch McConnell, and Kevin McCarthy will not be at that ceremony.
There's cold opens right there.
What we wanted is that Chuck Schumer said We're going to have a trial, we're going to convict him, and he is not going to be eligible to run for future federal office.
Same thing as Mitch McConnell said, a beatdown by Bill Barr, by Mitch McConnell, by Chuck Schumer, and I want to bring in Boris Epstein.
Boris, this is not playing out, really, as Lindsey Graham and I think others were pushing.
It's just some sort of procedural.
At least Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell are very harsh words, a real throwdown, and tomorrow they're actually going to swear in the two new senators from Georgia, the Democratic senators, the power shift to the Democrats.
Chuck Schumer will be in control by, I don't know, by I think slightly after, early afternoon, right after Joe Biden is sworn in.
Also, Mitch McConnell is not going to Andrews Air Force Base to see off the president.
What he's doing is he's accepted an invitation to go to St.
John's Church with Joe Biden.
So tell us, what is your current thinking?
boris epshteyn
Steve, thanks so much for having me on the MAGA Brain Trust, the MAGA Center, that is the war room.
Congratulations on all the success in America and worldwide.
My current thinking is this, and this is an obvious Cooperation between the Democrat establishment and the Republican establishment.
It could not be clearer on the day that crying Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell are hammering out their power-sharing agreement.
They are both coming out and casting stones at President Trump, absolutely unfairly.
The president who said march peacefully and patriotically to the Capitol.
The president who did not incite any riot, the president who tweeted to people to stop using any violence, put a video out the same day and now two videos since then condemning violence.
That is the reality, that is the truth, and yet you have the establishment in the face of Mitch McConnell, Bill Barr on the Republican side, crying Chuck Schumer on the Democrat side and all the Democrats, Continuing to attack the president because it is their goal, no matter what Lindsey Graham and others who are in favor of appeasement say, it is the goal of the establishment, which is a cross party in Washington, D.C., to eradicate President Trump, Trump supporters, and the MAGA movement.
The 74 million strong MAGA movement is being kicked to the curb by the establishment, and we cannot allow for that to happen.
That is why President Trump and his team and the Republicans in the Senate have to fight against this conviction, have to fight every single tenet, every predicate that's laid out in that ludicrous, contrived impeachment.
Have to fight against the fact that the president somehow incited the riot at the Capitol?
That is not the case.
Absolutely false.
Have to fight against the fact that any suggestion of election fraud is somehow treasonous or false?
We know about election fraud throughout this country.
Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico.
We know it happened.
We've brought the receipts.
We've discussed them on this show.
And no, it is not unpatriotic or treasonous or seditious or is somehow calling for insurrection to say that there was election fraud.
It is fact.
That is what it is.
And the Democrats and the Republicans have been in this town too long are trying to silence the American people, the MAGA movement and President Trump.
steve bannon
So Boris, one of our dictums on the show is that there's no conspiracies but there are also no coincidences.
How does Bill Barr give his first interview and then Chuck Schumer and McConnell almost line up and particularly what they're doing is moving the goalposts.
What they're saying is they're kind of backing off a little bit of the speech itself Insighted people to write and they're saying the whole process of him trying to show voter fraud in fact We didn't actually extend the clipped out because we had to get to you But I think Mitch McConnell says in there he they were fed the mob I think he refers to the mob was fed lies the mob was fed lies now number one
Those million people, or 500,000 to a million people down at the Ellipse, all the way back up to the Washington Monument, represent, essentially, 74 million voters.
Only a very tiny, I think they're saying 2,000, 3,000, maybe 5,000 max, right?
And no one's actually come down on that number hard.
I think they have, what, 75 arrests so far?
Maybe another couple hundred people they're looking at?
So, and this is not to excuse anything that went on there, but what I'm saying is when Mitch McConnell, who is, you know, the highest elected as of noon tomorrow, the highest elected Republican official, says that the mob was fed lies, they're now moving the goalposts to make it on President Trump and almost like daring him, daring him to come forward and to use the Senate's trial of his impeachment as really a venue for adjudication.
boris epshteyn
Absolutely.
Steve, what is happening now is that you've got the swamp, you've got the establishment going toward President Trump, against President Trump and saying that you are no longer allowed, allowed to question the election integrity.
Mail-in voting?
Fine.
Absolutely no checks on mail-in ballots, absentee ballots?
Fine.
Claiming there was election fraud?
Somehow un-American.
That is what the Republican establishment is now trying to dictate to President Trump and the movement that he is the leader of.
That is the MAGA movement, the 74 million strong compared to 63 million in 2016 who voted for this president.
That is the reality, that is the truth, and it is absolutely unacceptable.
And, you know, all this talk about Republican senators that should vote their conscience.
Yes, they should vote based on how their constituents want them to vote.
And the polling says very clearly that the Republican Party continues to be behind President Trump.
According to CNN, 81% of Republicans believe this election was stolen by the Democrats.
And the Republican senators need to look around, need to realize that they do not represent Joe's Seafood.
And they don't represent Del Frisco's in Washington, D.C.
They represent their constituents all over the country.
In Pennsylvania, in Florida, in Nebraska, in Utah.
And their constituents do not want President Trump to be convicted on a drummed up political hatchet job of an impeachment article, which is what this was.
And if we allow for that to happen, we might as well fold up tent and go home and just say, Democrats, have the Senate, have the House.
Go ahead.
steve bannon
The president's going to leave tomorrow, Washington, D.C.
No, he's not a career politician.
He just ran for office.
The only office he ever ran for was President of the United States.
He's going to be leaving tomorrow.
What is your assessment that, you know, Mike Pence is vice president?
Mitch McConnell's going to actually accept and be at St.
John's Church with Joe Biden, who he spent, you know, 20 or 30 years in the Senate with, cutting deals.
And Kevin McCarthy's not going.
At least this is the current report.
I don't know if any or who's the elected official is going to be there.
How does that sit with you?
boris epshteyn
I'm honored to have been invited to that send-off, and I will be at that send-off, Steve.
I was there the morning of the President's inauguration.
I was at St.
John's when then President-elect Trump and the incoming First Lady, Melania Trump, walked into St.
John's.
I had the honor of being there.
So I was there for the first day, and I will be there on the last day.
And it is highly disappointing.
that these high-level, high-ranking Republican officials will not be there to send off the most successful term president in the history of this country.
...the most successful term...
unidentified
Hey, we're losing Boris Grunty.
boris epshteyn
And if you want to talk...
steve bannon
Let's repatch.
boris epshteyn
I'm here. I'm here.
steve bannon
Thoughts?
jack posobiec
So what we're seeing now, Steve, with this setup inside our Capitol, you're seeing actually just a revelation, really, of where things have always stood.
steve bannon
This is the green zone.
unidentified
Right.
jack posobiec
We're in the green zone now, but we're also seeing between Chuck And Mitch and Nancy and all the rest of it, you are now seeing the size.
What President Trump brought to Washington D.C.
was not, you know, your grandfather's Republican Party.
It wasn't George W. Bush's Republican Party.
It wasn't the Cheney's Republican Party, Romney, McCain, etc.
It was something new.
It was a new political Forced.
So many first-time voters in 2016 came out for him.
That is what the parties here on both sides of the aisle have always stood against.
You're now seeing the party structure, the power structure, really trying to push that out and kick it out the door with it.
steve bannon
You're seeing the Uniparty come together in a consolidation to say, this populist movement, this is where it stops.
Do you believe, real quickly, we've got about 30 seconds, Jack, do you think you're seeing the politicization of the military by this 30,000 troops being here for the inaugural?
jack posobiec
Look, we're seeing loyalty tests, we'll get into it more, but we're seeing loyalty tests now.
steve bannon
Okay, short commercial break.
Raheem's going to join us next.
We're going to talk about all this, of the inauguration, the full inauguration, what's happening in Washington, D.C., inside the Green Zone.
Just to repeat, the President of the United States has just had his farewell address to the nation.
It was on a streaming service.
Real America's Voice is going to have that at 7 o'clock.
So we will return with War and Pandemic.
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Raheem Kassam, Jack Pasorek, Stephen K. Bennett in a moment.
War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
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donald j trump
America had given me so much and I wanted to give something back.
Together with millions of hard-working patriots across this land, we built the greatest political movement in the history of our country.
We also built the greatest economy in the history of the world.
It was about America first because we all wanted to make America great again.
We restored the principle that a nation exists to serve its citizens.
Our agenda was not about right or left.
It wasn't about Republican or Democrat, but about the good of a nation, and that means the whole nation.
For years, the American people pleaded with Washington to finally secure the nation's borders.
I am pleased to say we answered that plea and achieved the most secure border in U.S.
history.
We have given our brave border agents and heroic ICE officers the tools they need to do their jobs better than they have ever done before, and to enforce our laws and keep America safe.
We proudly leave the next administration with the strongest and most robust border security measures ever put into place.
This includes historic agreements with Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador, along with more than 450 miles of powerful new wall.
We restored American strength at home and American leadership abroad.
The world respects us again.
Please don't lose that respect.
steve bannon
Okay, Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States, his farewell address to the nation.
Some unfinished work here on Capitol Hill.
Mr. Boris Epstein, you're back with us.
Give us the breaking news.
boris epshteyn
Being broken by Politico, Olivia Bieber, is that the petition to replace Liz Cheney as the conference chair of the Republicans in the House has over 120 signatures right now.
The petition to replace Liz Cheney, over 120 committed signatures as of now.
Now, the names are not public yet.
Some are saying maybe people are saber rattling.
But that is the news as of right now.
Liz Cheney, because she voted for that contrived political joke of an impeachment against President Trump, is likely to be replaced as the number three most powerful Republican in the House of Representatives.
steve bannon
Boris, we've got to jump.
Give us your social media, give us your handles.
I know you're going to be out there tomorrow.
People want to be following you on Instagram and on Twitter and Parler, Gab, wherever you are.
How can people find you?
boris epshteyn
It's going to be my honor to be there tomorrow to celebrate the most successful term in American presidential history for President Trump at Instagram at Boris underscore Epstein, Boris underscore EPSHTEYN, Twitter at Boris EP.
Instagram, Boris underscore EPSHTEYN, Boris underscore Epstein, Twitter at Boris EP.
God bless and stay strong.
steve bannon
Thank you, Boris Epstein.
Big news on Cheney.
By the way, Oregon is out working on a petition now, the Republican Party, to basically condemn all 10 that voted against President Trump in this impeachment process.
jack posobiec
You know, Steve, last time I checked, isn't redistricting coming up next year?
You know, these ten, if you're in red states with red governors and legislatures, oof, I just worry about those redistricting lines.
What's going to happen?
steve bannon
I think they're going to get beaten priorities on that run again.
Okay, I want to bring in Raheem Kassam now.
Raheem, you and Jack, I want you to walk us through this.
The green zone gets weirder and weirder.
Jack, you sent some, I think it was John Roberts over at Fox News was tweeting out how the mayor of DC was asking for Kucinelli turned her down.
John Roberts, I think, was tweeting out the news.
jack posobiec
Right, and so Kucinelli actually came out and said this, that Mayor Bowser had requested crew-served machine guns.
For the inauguration.
So not only were we going to have the 26,000 troops that are out here, some marching with weapons, some marching on foot patrol today, but they actually were at one point requested machine guns in placements up for Joe Biden's inauguration.
steve bannon
So Raheem, how over the top is this?
raheem kassam
Well, this sounds completely like a peaceful transition of power, doesn't it?
I mean, this is what they're claiming.
Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, all of these guys that you heard from today, we have achieved a peaceful transition of power.
I'm sorry, but 30,000 troops, machine guns or not, does not make for a peaceful transition of power.
Silencing political opponents Uh, does not make for a peaceful transition of power.
Lying about incitement does not make for a peaceful transition of power.
Impeaching a president with a week to go and then making him face a Senate trial after he has left office is not a peaceful transition of power.
No, I would suggest to the audience that this is the first time that the United States has absolutely not seen a peaceful transition of power in a very long time and not because of the political right.
But because of the political establishment.
And it is no surprise that it is no coincidence that you see these towers of light that they intend to erect on the National Mall.
56 pillars of light, incredibly reminiscent by the way.
And I think we have some pictures to go up alongside my commentary on this.
Of Albert Speer, that's Reich Minister Albert Speer's Cathedral of Light that he built for the Nazi party, when guess what?
They couldn't build a stadium for people in time, so they resorted to putting lights up in the sky to give that kind of impression that there was some big cathedral that people were attending here.
It's funny, because they borrowed the pillars of light from the Luftwaffe.
In other words, they took the military of the country and used the military of the country for a show of force to make this impression that there was some big event taking place for the Nuremberg rallies and beyond that.
Again, because they couldn't put people there in time.
Does that sound familiar to you?
And if I could, for a second.
Ask for Denver to put up the Wikipedia entry of the Cathedral of Light.
As of today, on the Wikipedia entry, it now shows the Biden inauguration in one of the references.
I don't know if we have that image or not, but if you go to the Wikipedia page, at the very bottom where it says see also, it gives you Architecture of the Night, Symphony of Lights, Peace Tower, German Searchlights of World War II, and Inauguration, right at the bottom there I think, you've got to have to, the AVM's going to have to remove the chyron there, you see the Inauguration of Joe Biden.
Shameful.
steve bannon
They're going to take that.
By the way, now that you outed them, they're going to take it down.
Okay, I want to come back to the symbolism first, because I'll come back in a second, but I want to go to Jack and Raheem.
this politicization of the military. I mean, what they're doing now with checking people's social media, and then swearing in, and if Trump had done this, it had been a full meltdown, but swearing in part of the 25,000 National Guards, the 26,000 National Guard men and women that are here as US Marshals, right, so they can actually arrest people.
jack posobiec
Look, Steve, what you're seeing is it's an incoming administration purging the military.
This is a purge, what they're doing right now.
They're purging the military for anyone that they believe is insufficiently loyal to a newly elected candidate. We have seen this throughout history, times this has been done, and now we're getting reporting out from the White House.
They're going through social media pages.
They're going through your Facebooks.
They're looking at your likes.
Did you like the NRA?
Did you like War Room?
Did you like Turning Point USA, the Patriot Guard riders who go to the military funerals?
Right. All of these things, TikTok, Instagram.
They're all being checked.
And keep in mind, this isn't just for the inauguration now.
So Army CID has this and they're.
For people who are vets.
steve bannon
What is CID?
jack posobiec
So that's a criminal investigative division.
That's the law enforcement arm of the Army.
So it's the equivalent to NCIS in the Navy, OIS in the Air Force, CGIS for the Coast Guard.
You are now seeing, NCIS is actually for the Marine Corps as well, and so what you're seeing is the military investigative criminal divisions with law enforcement capabilities are now going after these quote-unquote suspected domestic extremists.
If you have an NRA hat, if you have a MAGA hat, a CAG hat, Let me ask you about that, Rahim.
steve bannon
They've got organizations like Young Americans Foundation, Turning Point USA.
I mean, these are pretty innocuous youth movements, college movements.
They've got NRA, which is a group for gun safety and gun rights.
What do you think about the groups that they're actually associating with to look at people that are potentially extremist?
raheem kassam
The most striking thing about this is actually how middle of the road and milquetoast so many of these organizations are.
I heard nothing but lamentations from the political right about YAF and about Turning Point USA saying that they're actually not MAGA or America First enough.
And the fact that they are willing to use these organizations as flags for whether or not people are willing to be investigated, well, that shows you just how low the bar is.
Almost as low a bar as celebrating the fact that, you know, A Cheney is going to no longer be the fourth-ranking Republican on Capitol Hill.
I mean, this is the position we've been left in now.
Since November the 3rd, we have been repeatedly asked, repeatedly it's been expected of us, to accept a worsening and worsening situation, not just in the nation's capital, but as it pertains to the philosophical realities of being an American, of being a patriot.
You may not like this.
You may not share this.
You may not wear that.
You may not post here.
And this is why we cannot call the incoming an administration, because it's not an administration.
It is a regime.
And from now on, I will always refer to it as a regime.
This is not something that you can call legitimate.
It is not something that the American public is going to see as legitimate.
It's not something that we should give the even the linguistic cover of being a legitimate administration.
This is the Biden regime.
steve bannon
Rahim is right in the fact of, in third world countries where you've had these color revolutions, it is kind of regime change, right?
This is how they do it, and they want to purge the military right away.
jack posobiec
Well look, that's the first thing that you want to do, is that you want to make sure that you're setting up some kind of, like, the Revolutionary Guard in Iran, for example, or the Fraternity Guard in Rome.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
Rahim, I would like you to stay because I want to talk more about the physicality of what's actually happening in the nation's capital with the inauguration.
And I don't know how big the crowd is going to be tomorrow.
unidentified
2,500 people?
steve bannon
I think that's all they've got room for with the sea of flags.
It's absolutely quite beautiful, but it's a cover for there's no support for Biden.
We're going to return in a moment with more.
unidentified
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steve bannon
Stunning breaking news coming out of the Senate confirmation hearings.
Jack Pasovic.
jack posobiec
Yeah, so we've got General Austin, retired General Lloyd Austin, who is the nominee for Secretary of Defense, tells the Senate during confirmation hearings, I will rid our Pentagon and U.S.
military ranks of racists and extremists.
We cannot keep America safe if some of those own enemies lie within our ranks.
steve bannon
So how do you read that?
You're a military personnel, how do you read that?
jack posobiec
Well, I read that as something that's very shocking because, of course, when every person joins the military, there's a background investigation done.
They do conduct a background investigation for ties to any of these fringe groups, these far-right groups, far-left groups, gangs, etc., right?
What he's saying now is that there are, he's not saying maybe, he's not saying we'll investigate, he's saying that positively there are enemies within the military, within our country, that this is straight out of the lives of others, this is straight out of the GDR, they are training you and conditioning you to think that your own soldiers, our own soldiers, could possibly be enemies.
steve bannon
Extremist and racist.
Rahim, Observations on what the General just said.
By the way, this is a General who had to get a waiver like General Mattis to be Secretary of Defense.
General Austin, what say you, Raheem Kassam, on this breaking news?
raheem kassam
I say that you've had critical theory, Marxism being taught in military schools for a very long time.
I've received a number of people who have reached out to me who are apoplectic about this stuff.
I mean, political extremism to the point where, you know, that's an ideology that has killed hundreds of millions of people, at least over a hundred million people around the world over the last century, and that is still being taught.
uh... it military schools and two people serving in the armed forces so it's a you know you can really see what's taking place a and it's a it but i realize that the last couple of weeks david's not just the green juice that i'm drinking now uh... that i've read been running particularly hot uh... on the show in the rationale the reason for that is this there is something deeply uh... wrong coming down the line uh... something deeply disturbing something deeply evil coming down the line we're seeing all play got a real time
And the question I keep getting asked from the audience, whether it's on this show, The Afternoon Show, The Morning Show, anywhere, text messages, Telegram, Gab, everything is, what can we do?
unidentified
What can we do while this regime hurts people?
steve bannon
This is the most important thing you can do.
The most important thing you can do right now is help us expose this.
Help us get the word out exactly what's going on in Washington DC.
Remember, somebody said in the live chat today, why does Steve keep talking about polling?
Because you're seeing the American people start to awaken to exactly what goes on.
Political power comes from the people.
And that's why you see Trump's approval rating now trailing three days of 51% the NBC poll.
shows that somewhere between 40 and 45 percent of the American people think this Biden regime or administration is illegitimate.
You're starting to see people wake up to this, and that's why I want to go back to the Cathedral of Lights. And Jack Posobiec, Rahim, Rahim, I want you to take this. This is a Potemkin village.
Okay, first it was going to be the COVID, you know, couldn't have, Biden couldn't have a crowd, it wasn't going to have a parade because of COVID, And they started taking down the parade route before we had the incident on January 6th, because they couldn't draw a crowd.
Then they had this, now the city's in total lockdown.
It is literally the Baghdad green zone.
Right?
You've got 25,000 troops.
Most of them are carrying weapons now.
2,500 of them have been deputized as essentially temporary U.S.
Marshals.
They're being purged by their social media.
And I want to go back up to the cathedral.
I explained that this is very important about what this looks like.
The whole mall looks stunning during the day because it's a sea of American flags like you see a U.S.
military cemetery over Memorial Day.
It's a sea of flags.
But there's no room for people.
This is a cover.
It looks beautiful, looks stunning, but this is a cover because Joe Biden, who didn't run a campaign, can't attract any of the 84, in quotes, 84 million people that voted for him.
Mr. Rahim Kassam.
raheem kassam
This is what?
Regimes do.
This is what regimes do.
It's not what democratically elected governments of the people do.
What democratically elected governments of the people do is they have inauguration ceremonies and then they have to deal with the embarrassment of it not being as large as your predecessors and so on Spicer goes up to the podium and he gets ridiculed by the media.
That's how you deal with things in a democratic and free way.
Regimes, authoritarian regimes, what they do is they put on a show and particularly put on a show of force.
You have a show of force here in Washington DC right now that stretches beyond people who are with arms standing on every street corner.
It's actually stretching into the minds of those people as well, with people above them interrogating their social media feeds for wrong think.
That is what an authoritarian regime does.
The Biden regime doesn't want people to see a sparsely populated national mall, so the Biden regime puts on a cathedral of lights like the Nazi Minister of Armaments, Albert Speer, organised for his good friend, Adolf Hitler.
That is the work of regimes, and this is what we are facing now.
All the hyperbolic talk, all of the theoretical talk about the possibility of communism and communist authoritarianism coming to the United States, that ends already.
We are now living it.
And if you are unsure that that is the case, or you think I am being too strong of the point or hyperbolic with it, Go and read the Gulag Archipelago.
Go and watch that scene from Chernobyl that we played yesterday, and if you can pick apart that and say, hey, that doesn't apply, that doesn't seem like what's going on right now, tell me.
Because I think you're wrong, and I think most Americans will realize that this, an inauguration, Steve, is supposed to be, whether your guy lost, whether your guy won, it's supposed to be one of those things that all Americans can take part in.
and be proud of. There was no peaceful transition of power.
jack posobiec
There was a seizure of power and now the regime is showing that power. Well Rahim, what you're describing is essentially a classic psychological operation, one that's done from the highest levels on down, telling you that there's going to be an inauguration yet there's no people, there's going to be flags yet there's
But I want to also talk about the fact that another psychological operation is going on, and this is part of why you're hearing former General Austin say that, why you're hearing the military go out and scour everyone's social media, and this is a feeling There's a psychological operation being done called a process of atomization.
They want to atomize Trump supporters.
What does that mean?
To make you feel that you have been reduced to your barest atoms, that you have no connection to anyone else, to make you feel adrift and isolated.
They want to feel that you have no bonds connecting you to anybody else, that there's nothing you can do, and to induce a psychological state known as learned Helplessness, which means there is no way out.
Folks, it is a lie.
It is all a lie, and it's false.
steve bannon
That's the purpose of the show, and that's what I say right now.
Connect, share, push out.
Connect, share, push out.
Because we're never going to bow to wrong think, right?
jack posobiec
You have to disrupt it.
You have to disrupt it.
steve bannon
And we're going to disrupt it.
Okay, I want to go.
We're burning daylight here.
Rahim, hang on, I've got to ask Jack this question and then I want Rahim to jump in.
Tomorrow, where President Trump, the head of the populist nationalist movement, an incredibly successful first term, goes to Andrews for a traditional send-off, Mike Pence, his Vice President, Mitch McConnell, this is all currently reported, Kevin McCarthy, Are not going to make it.
Not there for the 8 o'clock showing, but Mitch McConnell will go to church, which I'd love guys going to church, but he's going to church with Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer, not seeing the President off, and McCarthy and Pence.
I don't know what excuse Vice President Pence has.
Jack Posobiec, how big a deal is that?
jack posobiec
You're seeing the theater of power now in Washington.
President Trump is going to be with the people, and those in power are going to be up on the dais, surrounded by nothing.
Surrounded by no one.
steve bannon
Troops.
Troops.
jack posobiec
They wanted to have crew-served machine guns at the ready, right, as Biden is installed.
Rahim, could we use that word, installed, as president?
raheem kassam
Yeah, installed.
That's how regimes come into power.
And Mitch McConnell is going to go to church with a man who has said that one of his first moves in office is to open up and widen the ability for babies to be murdered for abortions.
jack posobiec
Maybe he can go to confession while he's there.
raheem kassam
That's who Mitch McConnell is going to church with?
I mean, Mitch McConnell has really shown himself again to be who we really know that he is, and that is a pawn of the Chinese Communist Party.
We've known that for very long.
We've known that from Secret Empires, from Peter Schweitzer's book, and we know it from how he received that $25 million from his wife's father in the shipping company that deals with the Chinese Communist Party.
So Mitch McConnell, all of these people in Republican leadership, they are killing the Republican Party.
They don't care, they're part of the unit party and it's going to be up to Patriots all around the country to run for office and primary these people.
steve bannon
Okay, Raheem, real quickly, we've got a couple of minutes, got to ask you and then Jack, I want to ask about the trial.
President Trump, in the beginning of the week, was talking about maybe some deal of Lindsey Graham or something that there was going to be some short trial, maybe a day or two, about the process, not getting due process, and it would be quick and dirty and get out of here.
But you hear Schumer today saying he's going to have a full trial, he's going to be convicted, and he's not going to be able to run again in 2024.
Mitch McConnell was even worse.
I mean, that was Schumer.
Mitch McConnell was saying, hey, he incited the mob with lies about the election fraud.
Where do you think this is headed as far as, because I got to tell you, after Schumer takes over the Senate tomorrow, this is going to move like a bullet train.
So get our audience ahead of the curve here.
What do you think is going to happen?
raheem kassam
They want to make an example of him.
They have played the people around the president, or rather, the people around the president have allowed themselves to be played.
Maybe they wanted to be played for the last couple of weeks.
The line from Capitol Hill was, tell your man over there at 1600 Pennsylvania to shut up for the last couple of weeks and we may let him off.
They had no intention of doing so.
They want to make an example of him.
They want to ban him from running from anything again.
They want to strip him of his Secret Service protection.
They want to strip him of a presidential library.
They don't want him to have any access to any resources, any gravitas, go to give any speeches around the world, any intelligence briefings that he was due to receive.
They want none of it to go President Donald Trump's way.
And the people around him have helped facilitate this.
I have no idea what on earth could get into the minds, apart from pure evil, into the minds of Pat Cipollone and Mark Meadows and all of those guys.
I think it's disgusting the way that they've shut this president up for so many weeks now.
The people wanna continue to hear from him, not in edited, chopped up video format, raw, the way they elected President Trump in the first place.
And I really hope that once he gets back down to Mar-a-Lago, when he finds his own voice again, we're gonna hear from him unfiltered.
jack posobiec
they say that when you tear out a man's tongue you do not prove him a liar You prove to the world that you're terrified of what he has to say.
And we saw that not only with the silencing of the President, we're now seeing it, a story that broke from the Daily Mail this afternoon, it was overlooked because there's so much going on, there's so much news right now, that John Roberts, Who presided over the first impeachment.
We all remember it.
We covered it every day.
He does not want to come back.
He doesn't want to preside.
That's his constitutional duty.
But the Constitution is silent on the impeachment of ex-presidents.
So technically there might be some wiggle room there.
And they're saying, believe me, get this folks, they are now saying that guess who might preside over the second impeachment?
The President of the Senate.
steve bannon
Kamala Harris.
jack posobiec
Vice President Kamala Harris.
steve bannon
Okay, Raheem, how do people get to you during the day?
By the way, the National Pulse show is on Rural America's Voice 3 to 4.
It's on fire.
How do people get to you during the day?
unidentified
Well, I'm really appreciating all the people who are following on Gab.
It's gab.com forward slash Raheem, R-A-H-E-E-M.
raheem kassam
And of course, if you want to be in the private chat, it's thenationalpulse.com forward slash support.
steve bannon
Raheem, we'll see you tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock.
Thank you very much, Raheem Kassam, editor of the National Pulse and also the co-host of Aurora Pandemic.
Give us your social media.
You're going to be here for the last segment.
Dr. Carol Swain's coming up to talk about the 1776 part of some good news.
What's your social media?
jack posobiec
At Twitter, J-A-C-K-P-O-S-O-B-I-E-C.
Jack Posobiec.
steve bannon
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Some good news, the president put forward his, the anti-was it, 1609 project.
It's called the Project 1776.
Dr. Carol Swain, one of the top conservative intellectuals in the country.
She was the vice chair.
She will join us next.
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steve bannon
Welcome back to the Green Zone in Washington, D.C., or the Green Zone that is Washington, D.C.
We've got some breaking news out of the State Department.
Jack Posovic.
jack posobiec
Massive news.
Secretary Pompeo releases a statement, I have officially determined that the People's Republic of China is committing genocide and crimes against humanity in Xinjiang, targeting Uyghur Muslims and members of other ethnic and religious groups.
steve bannon
Okay, and tomorrow morning's show, we're going to have a summary from the Wuhan lab to the Chinese interference, everything that went on against the CCP this week, by our intelligence agencies, Department of Defense, and particularly Mike Pompeo, and the Huawei.
We're going to wrap it all up.
We'll have it tomorrow.
I have Jack Posobiec here to help us.
Okay, I want to turn now to something On the good news, President Trump, in response, I think, to the 1609 Project started by the New York Times and people associated with the New York Times, got together some of the top intellectuals in the country to have a commission put together called the 1776 Project.
We're honored to have one of the top intellectuals in the country, Dr. Carol Swain, who is vice chair of this.
Dr. Swain, can you explain to people What this project was, and why it's so important, and why it's so important it was delivered in the last week of President Trump's first term.
carol m swain
Well, on November 2nd, President Trump issued an executive order creating the 1776 Commission, and the Commission was put in place to take people back to the It was put in place to educate people about the founding of our nation.
And it was influenced in part by the New York Times 1619 project, as well as the revisionist history that comes through critical race theory, that at this point in our nation's history, it is dividing Americans.
steve bannon
Dr. Swayne, we're seeing some of the results of that, and some of the things that are going around in town, the importance of teaching cultural Marxism, basically, in our schools and colleges.
Specifically in the 1776 Project, what did you guys come up with as a solution for that?
What were the kind of action steps, overall, that people, institutions, and the government can actually do to combat this?
carol m swain
Well, the most important thing that we did in our project is we went back to the nation's founding and talked about the importance of the Declaration of Independence and how it influenced the abolition of slavery and subsequent things that have taken place in American history.
And because it is a 45 page document, it was impossible to cover everything that's taken place in history.
But we did cover the Civil Rights Movement.
And I guess one of the biggest things that we're stressing is for people to read the original documents.
And we don't gloss over the fact that America is not a perfect country.
We have made mistakes in the past.
But what we're trying to get people to do is to go back and reacquaint themselves with our nation's history so that we can have a shared basis for communication.
And at the present time, there seems to be a movement to destroy the monuments and the shared history that binds a nation together.
And so without some common knowledge of the constitution, the declaration of independence, and the journey from slavery to where we are today with civil rights, there is no basis for our nation to move forward in a way that's going to be unifying.
So in many ways, as the commission looked at the point where we are today in history, it seems as if we're moving backwards as far rather than forward when it comes to race relations.
steve bannon
Dr. Swain, you've been a victim, or they come after you, on cancel culture.
Why is it that the cultural Marxist left do not want to debate people like yourselves, do not want to debate about your understanding of the foundational documents of this country and the history of this country?
What are they afraid of?
carol m swain
Well, I mean, if you look at cultural Marxism, their whole goal is to deconstruct the society and to tear down traditional values and structures And so someone like me, I represent everything that they say is impossible in America.
I came from dire poverty in the rural South, high school dropout teen mom.
I was able to get a high school equivalency, go to college and earn five academic degrees and tenure at two of the most elite institutions in the country.
And those are the stories that they don't want told, that America is a land of enormous opportunities.
And even though we've made mistakes in the past, the story of America is a story of overcoming.
And with the 1776 Commission, it has a mission very similar to that of the 1776 project that you referenced, that Bob Woodson But the 1776 Commission is a two-year, it has a two-year mandate, but it could be eliminated with the stroke of a pen.
steve bannon
Dr. Swain, how do people get access to you?
We're going to put the Commission's, your first report, up on our site.
We're going to push it out on social media.
How do people get more access to you?
Because I know our audience is already lighting up.
They want to find out more about you, know more about your writings and your thinking.
How do people get access to you?
carol m swain
Well, I have two websites.
One is carolmswayne.com and the other one is bethepeoplenews.com.
Instead of we the people, it's bethepeople.com.
And I have a newly released PragerU video about my life.
In seven days, it gained more than 2.4 million views.
I think they're up to 2.6 million now.
The American story is a story of people overcoming.
We've had so many successes, and I really praise President Trump for setting up the commission, as well as recognizing the dangers of critical race theory that presents itself to our society through diversity, inclusion, equity, when in fact it does the exact opposite of what it says it's doing.
It really destroys our society.
It takes us backwards.
We can do better.
steve bannon
Dr. Swain, thank you very much.
Dr. Swain is the Vice Chairman of the 1776 Commission.
We're going to have the Commission's report up and links to all of her websites and the PragerU documentary on her life.
Dr. Swain, thank you very much for joining us in the War Room today.
Okay, tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock, President Trump will be leaving at 8.
We'll have a report from Andrews, and then we'll be tossing to Real America's Voice as they cover the faux inauguration tomorrow.
See you tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
Jack, thank you.
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