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Ep 666: The Lives of Others (w/ Jack Posobiec)
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Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
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On or before January 20th, Donald Trump will no longer be the Commander-in-Chief.
He will lose control of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Special Forces, and America's nuclear arsenal.
On January 20th, Donald Trump will become the Commander-in-Chief of a different army.
This army.
The greatest threat facing America today comes from within.
Radical extreme conservatives, also known as domestic terrorists.
They are hidden among us, disguised behind regular jobs.
They are your children's teachers.
They work at supermarkets, malls, doctor's offices, and many are police officers and soldiers.
For more than a decade, Donald Trump has spoken directly to white supremacists in their language.
Build that wall!
Pocahontas?
Is it offensive?
Oh.
Oh, really?
Oh, I'm sorry about that.
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Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.
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In the middle of a presidential debate, Donald Trump was asked to disavow white supremacy.
He refused.
Instead, he told the Proud Boys to stand back and stand by.
Proud Boys, stand back and stand by.
They heard their leader.
They even responded to him on Twitter, promising to stand by.
And on January 6, 2021, Trump greenlit them.
They suited up.
They flew in.
They took hotel rooms.
They loaded their weapons, prepared their bombs.
And they attacked with the intention of killing Nancy Pelosi and hanging Vice President Mike Pence.
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They were vocally saying, where's the speaker?
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We know she has staff.
They're here someplace.
We're going to find them.
In the years ahead, Trump will lead his army of domestic terrorists.
He will encourage and incite violence.
He will play the role of arsonist and fireman.
He will start a civil war and then say things were more peaceful when he was president.
We have to fight back.
In this new war, the battlefield has changes.
Computers can be more valuable than guns.
And this is what we need now more than ever.
An army of citizen detectives.
I'm proposing we form a citizen army.
Our weapons will be computers and cell phones.
We, who are monitoring extremists on the internet and reporting their findings to authorities.
Remember, before the Navy SEALs killed Osama Bin Laden, he had to be found.
He was found by a CIA analyst working on a computer thousands of miles away.
It's up to you.
steve bannon
The lives of others right there.
You see the new Stasi being formed.
We're going to get into all this.
That is, was it Donald Winslow?
The author, Donald Winslow, a trailer made, put out about the new Stasi.
Remember what your neighbors are recording of yours.
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They're your teachers, they're your neighbors, they're your friends.
raheem kassam
Start reporting them.
steve bannon
Okay.
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So much to go through today.
I wanted to have, I want to bring in Jack Posobiec from One American News, an intelligence officer and someone who is an expert in communist dictatorships, particularly the CCP, but also understands Russia and Eastern Europe very well.
We wanted to back it up, we just couldn't technically get it together.
We wanted to show the, do we have the trailer?
I can do it here.
raheem kassam
If David can throw it to the laptop.
steve bannon
Yeah, I want to show, because this is, if anybody, and if you haven't seen it, Particularly our audience.
It is subtitled, it's in German, but one of the greatest films ever made, The Lives of Others, which is where we are today.
Raheem, can you play it?
raheem kassam
Got it.
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No, no sounds from it.
steve bannon
Okay, let's try that.
We'll try that sometime.
Anyway, the trailer from Lives of Others I recommend, and I want to bring in Pesobic.
Jack Pesobic joins us from One American News.
We've got a lot to go through today.
Bill Barr jamming up the President of the United States with an interview with ITV, an ITV network in the UK, with a reporter very familiar to Rahim Ghassan.
We've got Rahim Ghassan and Jack Pesobic on the last full day of President Trump's presidency, the first one.
So Posobiec and Rahim, I'll toss to you.
This is the lives of others.
I mean, what they're essentially asking for is to start reporting on your neighbors.
Right.
This thing at the greatest.
Winslow says the greatest threat facing America is essentially Trump voters or Trump supporters.
Right.
Guys in Beijing must be sitting there, they're like completely belly laughing right now.
We have the greatest existential threat the country's ever faced, that precipitated the CCP virus, that is in every culture and institution, that's infiltrated Washington with their money, it's everywhere, yet Winslow says the greatest threat Are is people out in this audience, right?
Greatest threat because you're all domestic terrorist.
And now it's important that everybody start reporting on you, your neighbors, your friends, your family members, your children.
You should be monitored by a network of citizen detectives.
Is exactly what the Stasi did.
The Stasi was the East German, essentially the KGB, or the East German police that, you know, kept the population of East Germany in control.
Jack Posobiec, Rahim Ghassan, your thoughts of really an extraordinary video that I think's got millions of hits, right, and is being on the left.
They're saying, yes, this is exactly what we have to do.
So Posobiec, Rahim, take it.
raheem kassam
Jack, I'm going to start with you because last night, I mean, we were going through this and, you know, interestingly, you quipped to me that's not exactly how Osama bin Laden was found either.
But the point being, these guys want, I mean, using bin Laden, let's take that as the first on this, using bin Laden as the example here.
Effectively, what Don Winslow is doing is inciting and inciting, you know, people to go up against, he's not just talking about laptops, they didn't just get Osama bin Laden with a laptop, they got Osama bin Laden With guns and troops and killed him dead, Jack.
So he may be trying to caveat this video with, oh yeah, we need a citizen army with computers.
steve bannon
They also tracked him down with local people ratting him out.
raheem kassam
Of course!
steve bannon
It was the taxi drivers, it was the taxi drivers, it was all of it.
raheem kassam
Exactly!
And Jack, I want to throw it to you on this point, because the Bin Laden comparison is going to be especially irksome to people out there, being called effectively the Taliban.
It's not like they haven't done it before to conservatives in this country, but again, being called the Taliban and saying that we need to be hunted down and exterminated.
jack posobiec
Look, first of all, when people are watching this video, I think it's absolutely imperative to everyone To take some time this week, take two hours out of your week, go watch the Lives of Others film.
Yes, it is subtitled.
It's in German, the original language.
It is a fantastic movie.
It will provide you a roadmap and also catharsis about what is coming down the line about how these people operate.
Now, the fact that Osama bin Laden Is it used, right?
This isn't an Emanuel Goldstein type of character, right?
Osama bin Laden is the enemy of America, the enemy, the evil enemy that we can't find, right?
And so just like in 1984, the way that Goldstein's spies and infiltrators were all around you, and even though you couldn't see them, right, they were your friends, they were your neighbors, they were your co-workers, they were the teachers of your students, right?
And so what they're doing, and it's the same reason that they have these FBI flyers all around DC, They are conditioning people to inform on their own friends, their own family members.
This has been done time and again throughout history.
This same cycle has repeated.
Anyone who has studied history understands where it's going.
Another caveat I'd throw out that how can anyone who's ever studied history ever trust politicians?
I think that's a Thomas Sowell line.
So the fact that they're doing this, not only is it inciting violence, Understand what's going to come next.
You are going to start seeing Hollywood through Netflix, and it's already begun.
In some cases, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hollywood movies, they are going to start making movies about domestic terrorists living in the suburbs with their, you know, Trump hats, with their MAGA hats on.
Sure, you know, the new Wonder Woman movie, the bad guy is a blonde president who's out to take over the world.
He's the bad guy, right?
This is how Going back to 1984, this is how the two minutes hate, that idea that when you see something like the red hat, the red MAGA hat, you become socially conditioned to hate it.
You are going to see, you are about to see, the entire Hollywood industrial machine turned on Trump supporters.
raheem kassam
And this isn't particularly new from our perspective in the sense that, sure, they're ratcheting it up and Don Winslow is now pushing this idea, but Jack, the internet caught this long ago with the NPC meme, with the angry NPCs, they're all being told and conditioned what to think and what to do and how to treat...
Orange man bad all of that and now they're weaponizing these people that they've radicalized over the last five years.
The reason I keep using radicalized and incitement is I'm going to use their words against them.
They want to accuse us of incitement.
They want to accuse us of radicalization.
No, no, no, no, no.
Look who's radical.
It's the people calling for conservatives to be treated as Osama bin Laden and Don Winslow's video is still up on Twitter to this day.
Right now it's still up being viewed by millions of people.
That's radicalization.
That's incitement.
steve bannon
For the podcast audience and for our radio audience, you've got to go to the website, Bannon's War Room or warroom.org.
Get up there in the live stream.
I want to put the Winslow video.
You have to watch this several times.
Let it kind of roll over you, exactly what they're proposing here.
And you have to this weekend, what Jack Posobiec said.
It's subtitled.
It's in German.
But you must watch The Lives of Others, one of the greatest films made in this century.
You will understand the games being played to you.
Now, I'm going to give you some good news.
The good news is the polls are going our way.
We're going to get to that later, but Rasmussen's got a three-day tracking poll of 51% among males, 56% among independents, 52%.
The NBC poll has still got their heads blown up.
Over in the mainstream media.
So we can turn this against them and we must turn this against them.
This is absolutely because they've exposed themselves now.
They've exposed themselves.
What they want is the Stasi.
They want an army of citizen detectives.
Detectives, and this is what The Lives of Others was about, about your neighbors ratting you out, right?
That you could never, ever, ever, ever have a moment of quiet or a moment when you just felt like you could relax or whatever because everybody in the neighborhood was spying on everybody else.
That's the reason we played from Chernobyl yesterday with Jack Posobiec, the thing where the KGB is watching everybody.
Posobiec, I want to go back one more time, we've got a couple minutes.
Walk back, this is how authoritarian regimes start.
They crowdsource, it's just not a secret police, which by the way, Rahim's going to bring you the next thing, the 25,000 or 30,000 National Guards, in the middle of the night they deputize 2,500 to be basically U.S.
Marshals.
There's only 3,000 U.S.
Marshals, I think, in the entire system.
They deputize.
Why?
So they can make arrests.
And this is a farce.
They've got to come out and say what's going on here.
Nobody showed up at the state capitals.
The people came to the rally was to see Trump and to hear his legal argument over a million people.
Do they have that kind of thing?
This is an armed camp.
It is ten times worse than when Lincoln had his first inaugural address.
raheem kassam
By the way, do you think they're deputizing U.S.
Marshals who haven't had their social media checked out to make sure that they're on Team Biden?
steve bannon
Is National Pulse going to do this?
Remember, this is like Praetorian Guard.
Think about if Trump had done this.
Think about if Trump had scrubbed all social media to make sure you had nothing to support Hillary Clinton, then he wouldn't deputize.
I hope National Pulse, which is doing such an extraordinary job on this, I would hope that National Pulse is asking that question.
Of the 2,500 National Guard that got deputized last night, how many of those had had their social media scrubbed to see if they're loyal to Biden or not MAGA?
raheem kassam
We have asked the question.
We're waiting an answer from the National Guard.
And if it transpires that they've used the powers of the state to deputize people, to deputize the National Guard, who are politically on the right side for Joe Biden and his team, that will be, I think, one of the most extraordinary stories this country's ever seen.
steve bannon
This is not rhetoric.
We just give you facts, right?
The fact is they have 25,000 to 30,000 National Guard in the city.
Fact.
They've deputized 2,500 as essentially U.S.
Marshals.
Why is that?
Because they can make arrests.
National Guard can't individually make arrests.
They deputize them.
I tell you what, Jack Hangingworth is going to come back around and get into Bill Barr.
Bill Barr jams up the President of the United States.
He says, you know, this is the reason.
They can't prove the speech did it.
So now they've got to go back to, oh, is Trump running around the country showing people how this election was stolen?
That's what precipitated the riot, or at least so says the former Attorney General of the United States.
I want to return with Jack Basoba, Grahame Kassam to the War Room in a moment.
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steve bannon
you you That's the trailer from the lives of other for radio and podcast audience We're going to make sure it's up.
You have to watch this because it's Don Winslow.
Look, he's a smart guy.
He's a well-known writer.
He put together this trailer.
It's calling for a citizen army of citizen detectives to make sure that they crowdsource.
Essentially spying on you.
That's what the lives of others shows you what happens in society.
That's about the Stasi and crowdsourcing at the time.
The the oppression, right, to see what you're doing every day.
And they've said, you know, this is Trump's Osama bin Laden.
Right.
And you're the Taliban.
So and Al Qaeda, even worse.
Jack Posobiec, thoughts before we move on?
We've got Barb, we've got so much to go on, and particularly this farce, and it's a farce, that's happening over the inauguration.
It's stunning, it's an actual stunning visual.
We're trying to get it up live as a live shot on the National Mall.
I think there's 200,000 flags, American flags.
It's one of the most moving things I've seen, but it's all to cover that Joe Biden couldn't draw a crowd of 5,000 people.
They are now being exposed every day.
I understand we got COVID, but you could wear a mask and do social distancing, you know, get your million people and spread them out, take them back to the Washington Monument, right?
Take them back to where Obama's guys were.
You got, quote unquote, 84 million votes.
Let's see where the people are.
I don't think you can get 5,000 people down there, but let's go.
First off, lives of others, Posobiec and Rahim, then we're going to move on to the, I want to move on to the National Guard in the National Mall.
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Brother Posobiec.
jack posobiec
What you're seeing, if If I can explain, the summary of Lives of Others is it shows that not only through surveillance are they watching everything you're doing, but through the power of the party in the communist state, that's East Germany, the GDR, they have total control over your life, total control over your decisions, and total control over information.
So the main plot of the movie, and I'm not giving this away, is the fact that the GDR The discussion of the suicide rate within the country, and then so the main character decides, because one of his close associates commits suicide, a famous playwright, he then goes and writes an article, a subversive article, it's declared, about the truth about suicide rates.
And you think about that, and it's eerily similar to the fact that we don't talk about the opioid crisis in this country.
We don't talk about the deaths of this despair going on in the Midwest.
You know, these massive rates that are clicking up and up, that are certainly clicking up during these lockdowns, and yet we don't talk about it at all, these suicide rates.
He then smuggles that information out to West Germany, where he's able to get it broadcast to the rest of the free world.
And isn't that eerily similar to the censorship that we see going on today?
They know that the only way they can maintain power through such authoritarian means is through total control of the information space.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to go.
Can we get the stills?
If we have the stills, I want to put the stills up of the National Mall.
By the way, all spring, every weekend, we would have people from the whistleblower movement, the New Federal State of China, the Chinese diaspora, come on here and talk about what it was to live in mainland China.
Right?
And mainland China, living in mainland China is exactly what Don Winslow is advocating.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
They would say, hey, your neighbors are always reporting on you.
You know, you can't, there's no free speech.
You've got a firewall.
We're going to get to Twitter and Facebook in a few minutes.
But can we get the photos up there?
The National Mall.
How many seats can you actually have for Biden's inauguration?
It can't be more than a couple thousand, right?
Normally you have millions of people and there's an argument which Trump's crowd bigger than Obama's crowd.
The west side of the Capitol started to be used under President Reagan.
Up until then, Lincoln, Kennedy, FDR was all the east side of the Capitol in a much more confined area with the Supreme Court and the Library of Congress looking on it.
Starting with Reagan who wanted a big Hollywood thing and also that's when the crowds got bigger.
President Reagan started on the West Side.
The West Side is obviously massive, goes all the way down to the National Lawn.
And since that time, particularly with charismatic people like Obama and Trump, you've had these massive crowds.
So where's Biden's people?
Don't think it's a celebration of the United States of America.
They've got the flags up there to take the space because they can't draw a crowd.
raheem kassam
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And they've got the 56 beams of light that they have that they're going to be pointing up.
I mean, I can't think of the energy cost of that.
So much for climate change, right?
This is a ludicrous display, a Potemkin village of an inauguration, quite frankly.
And it really is Stasi-esque in the framing of all of this.
What's taking place in the back of all of this?
30,000—I cannot stress this enough, ladies and gentlemen—30,000 troops are here in D.C.
By the way, New York PD is sending hundreds of police officers down to the nation's capital.
steve bannon
Who can't control the BLM and Antifa riot last night, right?
They had a riot last night in New York.
jack posobiec
You had 10 police officers in New York that were injured last night.
No one wants to talk about it.
Almost 30 people were arrested at this thing.
10 police officers injured in New York.
They're actually calling it in the headline of the article, NBC New York, they say the Martin Luther King Day riots that are down there.
And, you know, I just look at this National Mall.
I saw it last night from the roof of my building.
And I think this is a perfect example of the Biden administration, right?
It's an inauguration without citizens.
It's a government without input, right?
They are not going to listen to the American people.
They are not going to take your interests at heart.
They are going to do what they want to do, and they will tell you.
They will inform you of the decision later.
You know, even President Trump's detractors could always say that he was a guy that listened to the people and would change his mind based on the response that he got.
He was always A-B testing, right?
They always said that he uses Twitter for A-B testing.
With Biden and Kamala Harris and everybody else, they have Ron Klein who are running this thing.
They are not going to be listening to the American people at all.
And you're seeing that template from the very start.
You're seeing it from the get with the inaugural address to a crowd of nothing.
steve bannon
Look, everything they've done so far this week, they haven't had the big gala tonight, but everything they've done this week online has drawn zero people, right?
Now they have, it's not just they don't want to hear from the American people, they don't have support.
Somebody in the live chat said, Ben, and you keep talking about these polls, why it's important, here's why.
With total suppression of the information, 40% of the American people, 45% doesn't think he's legitimate.
unidentified
Listen, if you... Suppression, they call you a terrorist if you believe it.
steve bannon
Yes, yes.
If you're at 40% and look at these support polls for President Trump after the worst beatdown I've ever seen any president get, mainstream media is calling him Osama Bin Laden.
He's at 51% in the Rasmussen, which is still the best tracking poll we got.
These polls are enormous because what it shows you is you have the ability, have the ability to stop the Biden administration's radical plan in its tracks.
And that's what it's going to take.
Hey, I'm not saying it's going to be easy, and I'm not saying it's not going to take a total commitment of yourself to do this.
That's what it's going to take.
And for those that are dedicated to their country, dedicated to the Constitution, dedicated to the Republic, you understand, this is the time, this is the moment in American history you live in.
I keep saying, hey, you had the Revolution, you had the Civil War, Great Depression, World War II, this is the fourth turning, and now you're seeing exactly what it's like.
It's going to take fortitude and resolve and patience.
Right?
And grit and determination.
But we're going to get through this.
And here's what I know.
Even with the social media oligarchs, the mainstream media, they can't cover up.
American people got great common sense.
You can't cover up what nobody comes to this, to blame it on COVID.
And now they've got the blame on COVID and the Boogaloo Boys, right?
Well, show the receipts.
If it's that bad and you have to have 25 or 30,000 National Guards, you got to deputize 2,500.
You got the whole place in lockdown.
Show us.
How bad the threat is.
Let the American people decide if this was overreaction or not, or to cover up that Biden couldn't draw a crowd.
Mr. Rahim Ghassan.
raheem kassam
A lot of people whining today, I've noticed in the live chat, and I want to speak to the whiners in particular.
And it goes back to one of your points, you know, about what people are actually doing.
And people say, oh, why aren't we on the offensive?
Why aren't we on the offensive?
I'm gonna throw that question right back at the audience here, right?
For years, for decades, you have willfully, sometimes even mindlessly, and I say, listen, is this coming from a place of love?
Funded organizations like the Heritage Foundation and all these guys up on Capitol Hill with the big fancy buildings, these big so-called conservative think tanks.
Ask yourself the question.
Where are your dollars?
Where are your donor dollars going to work right now?
Where is the conservative media right now?
Where are conservative... Oh, I know Mitch McConnell, he's going to church with Joe Biden this Sunday.
I understand that.
steve bannon
Not Sunday, tomorrow morning.
raheem kassam
Tomorrow morning?
steve bannon
Tomorrow morning.
At St.
John's Church, Mitch is going as an invited guest.
raheem kassam
Don't come in here and say, oh, you know, what are we doing?
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What are we doing?
raheem kassam
What are you doing?
How many phone calls have you made today?
How many emails have you sent?
How many places have you gone to and said, hey, I'm gonna pull my donation and I'm gonna tell you exactly why, and I'm gonna give it to people who are doing things.
Don't talk to- we're the ones here every single day!
Listen, there are plenty of reasons to be optimistic.
A whole host of them, we'll know we'll get to them in the next segment as well.
Plenty of reasons.
It's not the time to get down on this.
steve bannon
Do not be down.
raheem kassam
On everything we're doing here.
steve bannon
We're going to have Mark Krikorian on later talking about this immigration bill.
It's time to stand and be counted!
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mika brzezinski
Thank you so much for being on.
Everyone should watch your TED Talk.
joe scarborough
Thank you so much, Carol.
mika brzezinski
To her point.
joe scarborough
Yeah, and Mika, the amazing thing is, again, I just want to underline this really quickly, the algorithms at Facebook actually promote this extremism.
They promote the extremism within.
mika brzezinski
But to her point about, you know, getting ready for Joe Biden, if this is some sort of last-minute suck-up to Joe Biden by Twitter and Facebook, all you've done is shown just how impactful everything that you've been doing so far has been in terms of spreading disinformation.
You have shown how it drops the minute you actually take action.
You have shown that you should have done this a long time ago, and perhaps there wouldn't be people dead, Perhaps there wouldn't be people following false scientific information about the coronavirus.
Perhaps there wouldn't have been some sort of insurrection at the Capitol that was promulgated all over your sites.
Perhaps there wouldn't be so much hatred and disinformation.
You have shown that.
It drops just by one random act that you decided to take at the very last minute.
I mean, really, honestly, the leadership at Facebook is pathetic.
Sheryl Sandberg, Mark Zuckerberg, you guys are pathetic.
You make absolutely no reason about your actions.
You could have done this a long time ago.
You decided to do it now.
Huh, I wonder who's going to be president now.
Maybe this will make him happy.
No, you've just shown him why you need to be shut down.
You need to be shut down.
Nobody needs what you have to offer.
You have destroyed this country, and quite frankly, it's still happening right now.
joe scarborough
And not just destroyed this country, destroyed democracies across the globe.
mika brzezinski
I'm sorry, one more thing.
Their little Sheryl Sandberg and we're going to get better, we're trying hard, we're working so hard.
Who are you to say that?
Follow the law.
Follow the law that publishers have to follow.
Follow the restrictions that anybody has to follow when they put something out in the public domain.
joe scarborough
Well, first of all, they are publishers.
mika brzezinski
That's what they are.
joe scarborough
They are published.
unidentified
Beyond deamplification, we are going to, conspiracy theorists, we are going to be permanently suspending those accounts.
Whether we believe Trump's tweets are inciting violence and having real world harm, I think we've seen that.
In fact, they are.
So it's coming back from the time out to deescalate the situation in other places around the world, where we've seen violence unfold as a result of either misleading information or coded rhetoric.
So a lot of our learnings here have come from other markets.
So in that sense, we do feel like this is our global approach.
We need to be very focused on being able to enforce any of these policies or enforcement decisions we make at scale.
I think long term we want to be in terms of building trust and enforcing policies consistently and providing adequate notice before we take a very aggressive step like a permanent suspension.
There's also been a lot of questions about retros.
And of course we're going to do a retro.
We're in the midst of a retro around the collection generally.
This will be most definitely folded into it.
What we saw Wednesday morning was really concerning to us, obviously, so a small team gathered for trust and safety.
Discussing the potential for violence to happen, and we decided to escalate our enforcement of the Civic Integrity Policy and use a label that disabled engagements to stop the spread of potentially inflammatory content, which is the content around election interference, election fraud, stealing the election, that type of thing.
We are going to, these first few years, we are going to be permanently suspending those accounts.
We are doing everything that we can to ensure that Okay, you're seeing it right there.
steve bannon
By the way, is that Orwellian enough for the Trust and Safety Committee?
That's the Committee on the Public Safety during the height of the terror in revolutionary France, right?
raheem kassam
Who appointed these people?
steve bannon
Purely Orwellian.
By the way, I want to thank James O'Keefe and the Veritise guys.
They're the ones that came with it last, after Mika's meltdown.
And by the way, the Mika meltdown's all phony.
raheem kassam
You hear it in her voice.
steve bannon
It's totally phony.
unidentified
We've heard angry Mika.
steve bannon
That's not angry Mika.
That's phony Mika to say, oh, we went after Facebook and said they should be shut down.
No, they want Facebook to shut you down.
This is the new Stasi, right?
Jack Posobiec.
Now you've seen the apparatus is becoming clear.
And I want to say one thing about Don Winslow.
Don Winslow, Rupert Murdoch and the Murdoch family.
You own HarperCollins, one of the great publishers.
It's also, is it William Morrow?
unidentified
Yep.
steve bannon
Is the subsidiary, the imprint.
William Morrow, you publish Don Winslow's books.
Make sure everybody that goes watch Fox, when you're sitting there watching Fox, another Murdoch operation, that the author that publishes his books through the Murdoch Enterprise, a news corp, that is William Morrow, Don Winslow, I'm not saying he's not a good author, but I'm saying here's what he's saying about you.
The greatest threat facing America is you.
raheem kassam
Can I just be just more explicit about that for people who don't know what we're talking about?
Don Winslow is the guy who made the video that called conservatives Osama Bin Laden.
Implied with a wink and a nod that we need to be hunted down and assassinated.
unidentified
It's called Trump Osama Bin Laden and all of his followers are Al Qaeda.
raheem kassam
Now, Don Winslow publishes through a publisher called William Morrow, okay?
So firstly, you want action?
Firstly today, contact William Morrow and let them know in very polite and specific terms that you will never be purchasing one of their books again.
Then you go and you look at who owns William Morrow as a publishing imprint, that would be HarperCollins.
Action two, go and let HarperCollins know that you will never be purchasing from them again.
And then number three, who is HarperCollins owned in turn by?
That would be News Corp.
So you can go ahead and let News Corp know that they are publishing, that the company that owns the network that you have spent so many hours and days and weeks and years of your life watching and supporting and going to bat for, Fox News, that same company is now publishing books by a guy who says you have to be hunted down.
steve bannon
Citizens detectives.
Jack Posobiec, jump in here, give us your thoughts, your perspective.
jack posobiec
Have you guys, go and look at the books that he's most famous for, that he's most known for.
He wrote the Border Trilogy, all about border security, the threat of the Mexican cartels.
He actually wrote about real violence that's going on in America.
He actually made money off of going to people and saying, hey, I'm going to expose the truth about what's going on down here at the border.
But then he, what does he use that money for?
He turns around.
And now he's using it to demonize his own audience that made him rich through buying books about the border, right?
You get it?
So he made money off of selling books to people who are interested in border security, learning more about what's going on down at the cartels, using real information with a fictional narrative, very fictional characters, and now he's demonizing his own audience.
That is sadistic.
That is absolutely sadistic, and it takes someone Who has a serious, serious inferiority complex to do something like this.
You know, they say we derive powerful pleasure.
Powerful pleasure derived from humiliation and inciting violence against others.
That is a clear sign of someone who has an inferiority complex.
And when I called Don Winslow out yesterday, he blocked me on Twitter.
steve bannon
Yeah, by the way, he's a smart guy.
He's a good writer.
If you want to know about The Border, some of his books are fantastic.
We spent time down there building the wall.
raheem kassam
But we're also not buying them.
steve bannon
No, no, no.
You're not buying them now.
That's my point.
This guy's turned his guns on you.
jack posobiec
You see what he did?
He sold books and now he's demonizing them.
raheem kassam
Exactly.
So here's the other part in that Mika thing, right, that has to be mentioned is their guest was Carol Cadwalader just before.
Now Carol Cadwalader runs a group calling itself the Real Facebook Oversight Board.
This is an attempt to show that the Facebook Oversight Board, which is the only part of the Facebook company that can overrule Mark Zuckerberg, is too right-wing, okay?
The Facebook Oversight Board is 95% Never Trumpers, 95% anti-Trump, 75% non-Americans, By the way, I think their first project is to get me thrown off Facebook.
No, no, that's the real Facebook Oversight Board.
unidentified
No, no, no, it was these guys.
steve bannon
So, hang on.
raheem kassam
So, Carol Cadwallader runs the real Facebook Oversight Board, which is a fake Facebook Oversight Board.
The actual Facebook Oversight Board is 95% Never Trumpers and 75% foreigners.
Okay?
I know it's ridiculous.
unidentified
Well, and Rahim, you heard Vijaya say that in the video.
raheem kassam
Right, right, exactly.
But here's the thing that people need to realize about the catwaladus.
steve bannon
Haunted Caterpillar is the one that went off the deep edge on Cambridge Analytica.
raheem kassam
Cambridge Analytica, Arron Banks, Brexit, Russia collusion.
She makes Louise Mensch look sane, right?
Here's the thing about Carol Cadwaladr.
steve bannon
Nobody makes her look sane.
raheem kassam
She just had to pay $83,000 as a beginning down payment on a settlement because she lied about Arron Banks and the Brexit stuff being Russian funded.
She is a discredited reporter and nobody, even at her own publication, Guardian Observer, wants to touch her anymore.
steve bannon
By the way, Morning Joe producer, did you have that on the Chiron that she had to pay?
raheem kassam
How much did she have to pay Aaron Banks?
$83,000 as a down payment on a court ruling that is still to rule how much she owes in totality because she lied in print about Aaron Banks.
and how the Brexit campaign was funded. She's a disgrace.
unidentified
Why?
steve bannon
Mika, Mika, Mika.
raheem kassam
Here's the other thing people need to know about her organization, the real Facebook Oversight Board, right?
And funnily enough, who reported on this back on December the 4th?
Oh, that would be the National Pulse. You can go and look it up.
The real Facebook Oversight Board includes Christopher Steele on the board of Carol Cadwalader's group.
Christopher Steele is also in this group.
And who is Christopher Steele?
Of course we all know.
Finally, remember these people are trying to impact US politics.
The Real Facebook Oversight Board is actually a UK limited company trading under the name All The Citizens.
And it states as one of its aims is to make sure that the Biden-Harris White House Doesn't become another lapdog for big tech and obviously by lapdog they mean failing to use government force to ban right-wing ideas and personalities.
I need people to internalize what's going on here.
You have a foreign-funded operation with Christopher Steele at its helm trying to impact what's going on and MSNBC is putting that on television!
steve bannon
With no chyron.
Jack, I want to go to Veritas.
They're sitting there in the voice of doom saying how they're blowing out conservatives.
Walk us through what was said there.
jack posobiec
Now, what's very interesting, and to kind of explain what people are picking up or maybe not picking up from those comments, when the Facebook executive, or excuse me, the Twitter executive you hear in that video is talking about, these are lessons we have learned in other markets.
OK, Twitter is a global company.
They use other countries that maybe even where they have larger platforms, they have larger bases of people, but aren't as scrutinized as they are in the United States.
to roll out different things. And I want to mention something that happened last year that was partially unnoticed. But when they went to Modi in India, and they at one point, right before a key moment in his presidency, they neutralized all of Modi's supporters on Twitter.
They said it was due to harassment. When she's talking about lessons we've learned in other markets, they're talking about stuff they've done in other countries, stuff they've done in places like India.
When they're talking again about, and of course we know there was violence all summer.
We know there was 30 plus people dead, including David Dorn, Captain Dorn.
We know about all this.
There was no righteous indignation then.
There was no call for shutting down accounts calling for violence or organizing violence and riots like Antifa or some of the looting that was done in the Adjacent to these protests.
But what they are doing is they're neutralizing political opposition systematically around the world.
That's what she's saying.
That's why we know.
And look, you got to give credit where it's due.
The president of Mexico, even Angela Merkel, came out and said, when you are censoring and shutting down the president of the United States, you are putting yourself, right, ahead of the head of state of a country.
That leads us into a dangerous path.
And the fact of the matter is that as of today, last time I checked, Donald J. Trump is still the president of the United States, and yet he's been completely suspended from their They are showing you that they have the power, and they want everyone after that, including Joe Biden, to know that they still have that power.
steve bannon
More power than the Commander-in-Chief of the American Armed Forces.
Okay, Miles Grove, the great Miles Grove told us this six months ago.
The CCP understands social media is the weapon of the 21st century.
Okay, short commercial break.
Posobiec, Qasem Bannon will be back in a minute.
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic. Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon.
He was one of the most important figures in the Trump administration and this is Bill Barr's first interview since the storming of the US Capitol 12 days ago.
As Attorney General he was a loyal supporter of the office of President and of the man inside it.
But on the issue of the legitimacy of November's election results they differed.
And he says those false concerns helped to encourage the violence.
Perhaps the debate about the integrity of the election was the final straw.
I think that that was the thing that precipitated the The riots on the Hill.
william barr
Now, I think it's always important to remember that most people are exercising their First Amendment rights.
unidentified
But there was a substantial group, obviously, that went far beyond that and broke into the Capitol and tried to interfere with the proceedings.
And that's unacceptable.
I'm sad to see, but not surprised in a way, to see the kind of violence we saw on Capitol Hill.
I consider it despicable and I was not Attorney General.
I had already left office when that occurred.
steve bannon
Bill Barr just gave a live interview today on ITV.
The key thing there, and I want to specifically address this to Winnie.
Her comment in the live chat was, So, all that election fraud talk was just that.
Talk?
Love the show, but it seems claims of fraud seem to just disappear.
Winnie, awfully snarky this morning.
No ma'am.
Stick with the program.
We gotta move a lot of pieces here, right?
Signal, not noise?
Got to get to the other side of the hill.
There's a trial coming up and Bill Barr just jammed up the President of the United States.
Now everybody's saying the President is going to go in and argue about a process situation.
And this is what we've been kind of waiting for.
Attorney General just jammed the President right there, Bill Barr.
He says, and here's the reason, make sure you connect dots here, they can't prove that the speech incited anyone.
Why?
Because Rudy Giuliani and all the work of the National Pulse, they were already up there, these radicals, the accelerants, the accelerationists in the agent provocateurs, Mr. Jack Posobiec, were already up there.
What, maybe 1,000 people out of, if you take everybody up there, maybe 2,500 people out of what is a crowd of 500,000 or a million, right?
And by the way, totally wrong, shouldn't have done it, absolutely, got to be held accountable, all of that.
That's what I keep saying.
Separate fantasy from focus.
Now Bill Barr comes in because here's what the media is saying.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
What really caused it was all the talk the 10 weeks about the election fraud because they can't prove the predicate of Nancy Pelosi's impeachment.
And this is why I think it's very important for the president and others to really think this through.
You're going to have a venue because remember, go back.
Page three of that indictment says that he went around the country giving false information.
It's so false.
Let's let's throw down and let's see if Peter Navarro's reports, all the analysis, all the mathematics, all the voter fraud.
And by the way, this is not machines.
We're not naming any of the Dominion stuff.
We haven't touched that stuff.
We kept saying, hey, maybe, but that takes a real investigation.
And, you know, there's no gun battles in Frankfurt and everything like that.
So Pasovic, jump in here.
jack posobiec
Yeah, I'd like to direct Bill Barr to Bill Barr, his own comments back in September.
It was September 2nd.
When he went on CNN and got into what turned into a shouting match with Wolf Blitzer, and I hope we can find that clip, because Bill Barr said to Wolf Blitzer, this is playing with fire, talking about the mail-in ballots.
This is playing with fire.
We're a very closely divided country here.
People are trying to change the rules to this methodology, which as a matter of logic, is very open to fraud and coercion.
It is reckless and dangerous and people are playing with fire.
Bill Barr, I got the receipts.
That was you on September 2nd, 2020 on CNN in a debate with Wolf Blitzer.
You were the one who came out and said that we should not use this mail-in ballot.
He said it and he didn't do anything about it.
steve bannon
They had every opportunity in Pennsylvania and in Georgia to get back in this.
They did absolutely nothing about it.
This is because he's part of the establishment.
He wants to be invited to the cocktail parties over in Northern Virginia.
He wants to go back on corporate boards.
raheem kassam
Well, and to the point, Jack, did Bill Barr just implicate himself, therefore, in incitement?
If he says that they're playing with fire by introducing the mass mail-in ballots, which, by the way, he was absolutely correct back then about, and now he's saying, oh, talking about mail-in voter fraud and all the rest, election fraud, incited a riot, did he just implicate himself?
steve bannon
You can't get, by the way, you're getting very snarky here.
No, he didn't.
But he brought up one of the key points and then backed off it.
Because in showing this, this is not about going to servers on the moon, it's not about gun battles in Frankfurt, it's not about any of that nonsense.
This is practical and Navarro and others have the receipts.
By the way... And the President of the United States... Bart, your Attorney General just jammed you up, so I think the President's got to sit there and say, hey, if this guy's going to be jamming me up and you see all where the Democrats are going to come with this, oh, it wasn't the rally because you can't prove the rally.
Go ahead, Jack.
jack posobiec
In that same interview, I'm reading through the transcript now, in that very same interview, Barr goes back and listen to what he added.
Now, I want to say this in context of what we now know.
So he said this back in September, I believe China is interfering in the election because I've seen the intelligence and that's what I've concluded.
Bill Barr, you said that on CNN, September 7th, we've got to get this clip.
Now we've seen what?
The Ratcliffe letter that's come out and said the exact same thing that he's seen the raw intelligence.
So you had AG Barr, right?
Back in September, now you've got the Ratcliffe letter from January, both saying that they've seen intelligence.
steve bannon
So which are we supposed to believe?
But Don Winslow of Morrow and HarperCollins and News Corp, Don Winslow tells me that the greatest threat is not the CCP, it's not the Chinese Communist Party, our greatest threat is the Trump voter.
That's the greatest threat, the domestic terrorist of the Trump voter.
jack posobiec
He's upset that Americans interfered in the election.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
Mayor Giuliani is so worked up by this bar situation.
We didn't have him scheduled, but Mayor Giuliani is going to come on and discuss the Attorney General of the United States, the former Attorney General of the United States.
raheem kassam
Yes, sir.
Let me just quickly jump in.
Everybody else gets to do it, and I rarely get to do it.
Can people follow me on Gab?
Because we're now getting thousands and thousands of people responding to our polls.
99% of people said Biden's a fraudulent president in a poll I put up last night.
5,000 people voted in that.
It's gab.com forward slash Rahim.
steve bannon
By the way, Winnie, we love you, and I love people keeping us on point.
We're all over the election fraud, Winnie.
This is what's changing the numbers.
This is why I try to shut everybody down.
We'll return with the second hour of War Room Pandemic.
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