Dec. 28, 2020 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| Which you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, and the worst happens... War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| I expect there'll be a little chaos. | ||
| This is a scam though. | ||
| I mean, you know, to explain to people that somehow Congress can overthrow the certified results of every state, that we can change an election outcome when there was not a single court case that had any legs. | ||
| I mean, even if you believe that somehow the courts were you know, inept in this whole process. If somehow you believe that this whole election was stolen, the reality is there is no impetus to overthrow an election even if you want to, and there's no ability to overthrow an election even if you want to. And so all that's being done is certain members of Congress, the president, etc., and you know, like quote-unquote thought leaders on Twitter are getting retweets, they're getting followers, they're raising money on this scam. | ||
| It is a scam. | ||
| It is going to disappoint the people that believe this election was stolen, that think this is an opportunity to change it. | ||
| But instead of being disappointed in the people that led them on this grifting scam, they're going to somehow, you know, try to convince these people that it was, I don't know, what's the new word, the rhinos in Congress or something like that. | ||
| And not the Constitution that prevents this from happening in the first place. | ||
| We talk about the Constitution, we have to follow it, and I'm sorry if that doesn't mean that the outcome was what you wanted. | ||
| But since you make that point, I mean, some of your friends on the right don't seem particularly perturbed about some of the extreme measures being talked about. | ||
| The president hasn't embraced them, but he is still, as you say, tweeting and talking about a rigged election, calling Joe Biden a fake president yesterday. | ||
| Can you imagine the conservative reaction if Barack Obama in 2012 lost the Electoral College and was having meetings talking about, you know, rerunning, using the military, for example, to rerun the election in certain states? | ||
| You're correct. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And I'm not sure if they're going to be my friends. | ||
| I know that it's having an impact on Fox. | ||
| It's having an impact on Republicans in the House and the Senate. | ||
| It feels like this president's trying to do as much damage as he can, not just to Mitch McConnell, but the Republicans in the House and in the Senate. | ||
| And the press is glad to go along because it'll help in that final race of 2020 in Georgia. | ||
| And I'm afraid, and I believe, that those two Republicans May well lose on the 5th of January because of what the president is doing right now. | ||
| The media is helping him and this should not be happening. | ||
| That that election should be waged separately from the ugliness that's happening here in Washington. | ||
| I'm concerned to an extent about January 6th, because if you convince people that Congress can change a legitimate election and everything was stolen, there's a deep state slash QAnon theory driving this, which is that it's Satanist pedophiles that run the government. | ||
| uh... you could see people being driven to violence i'm concerned about that in terms of anything else what the guardrails of the constitution are there you know in terms of martial law in the military for instance which has been discussed the pentagon in the military wouldn't implement that as a as a lieutenant colonel in the military i know that i can't follow through on an illegal order even if it comes from the president | ||
| So I'm not concerned to that level, but the concern I have right now and why I've been so outspoken is I grew up as a Republican because I believe in smaller government and strong national defense and that's being destroyed by conspiracies right now and anger and I really do worry about the future of my party. | ||
| Fight for Trump! | ||
| Black lives matter! Black lives matter! Black lives matter! | ||
| Black lives matter! Thank you very much. Thank you very much, everybody. Welcome. | ||
| We're live from the nation's capital, that nation being the United States of the Federal Reserve. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| It is, what is it today? | ||
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It's the 28th of December. | |
| It's Monday, the 28th of December, the year of our Lord 2020. | ||
| Glad I know where I am and what I am. | ||
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It's also, by the way, the 955th year anniversary of the consecration of Westminster Abbey today. | |
| Wow, let's get to that later. | ||
| It's also the Feast of the Innocents. | ||
| This is when the Herod ordered the slaughter of all the children in the hunt for the birth of the baby Jesus. | ||
| This was before the flight into Egypt. | ||
| We'll get into all that. | ||
| Boy, over the specials we had, we had one extraordinary individual, Rabbi Sparrow, who really walked through Hanukkah, the Maccabees, we call them now the Maccabees, we're all Maccabees, right? | ||
| It's extraordinary, extraordinary. | ||
| The American Judeo-Christian tradition, the ethos. | ||
| We're going to get more into that today and throughout the week. | ||
| And the question we have, by the way, number one political podcast in America, I think, I don't know, eight, nine days in a row. | ||
| Who's counting? | ||
| John Frederick's Radio Network, Real America's Voice, Dischannel 219, Comcast Channel 113, also on Pluto, Roku, Rumble, YouTube, Facebook, everywhere. | ||
| Remember, we're the number one podcast. | ||
| See the guys in back of us, right? | ||
| It's less than 20% of our audience. | ||
| We're really a television show. | ||
| Then we also do a podcast later. | ||
| They are kind of combining this into a podcast. | ||
| So I want to thank everybody. | ||
| Listening to us on podcast, everybody watching us on TV right now, and particularly GNews and GTV that subtitle this in Mandarin and blow it out through the entire world for the diaspora of the Chinese people. | ||
| I heard a lot in President Trump, a lot to get to. | ||
| We're going to get to the non-veto, what happened on the COVID bill, what happened on this, on the appropriations bill, get into a lot later. | ||
| But we got to start with, because we're in countdown mode to January 6, we want to bring in Boris Epstein, kind of Rudy's deputy on this entire, on this entire operation. | ||
| And Boris, I got the question just off the bat that people want to have answered. | ||
| Because now with the non-veto and their meeting here later today, Congress is coming back in. | ||
| The House meets this afternoon to override the President's veto on the NDAA. | ||
| That's the National Defense Authorization Act. | ||
| That is the seven hundred, I think, sixty billion dollar defense bill. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That America first. | ||
| We're still paying for the world's defense. | ||
| We're still, you know, our kids are over there serving. | ||
| We're still paying for it. | ||
| President Trump has vetoed that on a couple of specifics we're going to get into later. | ||
| But I want to go to, was it Kinzinger and Luntz? | ||
| Boris, is this a grifting scam? | ||
| Is all this fight just, you know, people out there raising money off this, the Trump campaigns to continue to raise money? | ||
| Is this real? | ||
| Are these numbers real? | ||
| You know, he doesn't seem like he knows the math. | ||
| I don't know if anybody's explained it to him, if Peter Navarro's had a conversation with the Congressman or Frank Luntz, but is this a scam? | ||
| Is this just a total waste of time and a way to go out with a bang instead of a whimper? | ||
| Or is this real? | ||
| Is this a Is this truly where an election was stolen and we're fighting for something greater? | ||
| And President Trump would say, he says all the time, something greater than himself, something greater than his presidency. | ||
| You're fighting for this constitutional republic and you're fighting for the Constitution, right? | ||
| Is this, is this real or is it fake? | ||
| It is absolutely real. | ||
| It is 100% real. | ||
| Great to be with you, Steve. | ||
| Hope everyone had a great Christmas. | ||
| We worked all the way through Christmas. | ||
| As you know, you and me, you and me were talking almost every day, many times, you know, 10 times a day. | ||
| And I've been on the phone with the mayor nonstop, including throughout this morning. | ||
| So here's what I'll tell you. | ||
| This fight is absolutely real. | ||
| This fight is absolutely righteous. | ||
| We are continuing to push forward on the legal front. | ||
| We're continuing to push forward on the legislative front. | ||
| And now we're pushing toward that date of January 6th, which as we've talked about consistently does have Significance. | ||
| Now, in terms of what Frank Luntz had to say, you know, the same Frank Luntz was sending and treating emails to Hunter Biden, which we have now seen. | ||
| In terms of what Adam Kinzinger, the never-Trumper, has to say, that's their opinions. | ||
| And as Americans and as persons in public view or elected officials in the case of the congressman, they're entitled to it. | ||
| But what I'm entitled to is knowing the fact that there's 221,000 illegal votes that were cast in Wisconsin. | ||
| Over 400,000 illegal votes cast in Georgia. | ||
| 700,000 mail-in ballots cast that were not even observed in Pennsylvania. | ||
| In Michigan, 71% of absentee precincts unbalanced in Wayne County. | ||
| As you go state by state by state, Arizona, dead people voting, illegal immigrants voting, again, lack of observation. | ||
| As you go state by state by state, this is not some conspiracy. | ||
| And of course, people who are against the president and in their hearts have likely been always against the president, that's what they want to derive this as. | ||
| Oh, it's some crazy QAnon conspiracy. | ||
| That's not what this is. | ||
| I am not a part of QAnon. | ||
| I have nothing to do with it whatsoever. | ||
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This is a true fight for election integrity. | |
| Hang on for a second, because today, one of the big things when we get into the show, the House is coming back today and they think they got the votes to override the President's veto on the NDAA. | ||
| Do you believe that your team has done a good enough job of briefing People like the House, like the Congressman who goes off on CNN and MSNBC non-stop about what a scam this is and how you guys are just a group of grifters. | ||
| Do you think that between Navarro Yourself, the rest of the team working on this, Jason Miller, the people still remaining at the campaign that are working on this. | ||
| Do you believe, because we're going to get into the details of this, I want people, we have to reiterate the verticals of where these votes are actually coming from and why they are illegitimate, illegal, and no chain of title, no chain of custody. | ||
| But do you believe that you and Rudy and Navarro and the rest of the team, Catherine Fries and the rest of these great killers you've got working over there, do you think you've done a good enough job of briefing the House? | ||
| And have House Republicans like McCarthy, have they reached out and said, hey, I want my staff fully briefed, I want to make sure I understand all of this? | ||
| Well, let's look at it this way. | ||
| You've got Mo Brooks and a group of Republicans in the House who have the information and know the information and are paying attention to the information. | ||
| The point is not that Congressman Kinzinger doesn't have it. | ||
| The point is he doesn't want to know it. | ||
| He doesn't want to see it. | ||
| Of course it's there. | ||
| He's seen the Navarro report, which is extremely in-depth, detailed. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| Hold on for a second. | ||
| Whoa, hang on, hang on. | ||
| Because this is, look, we're within ten days of game day, right? | ||
| So, are you saying right now, you and Rudy, Well, I would guarantee everything but one thing. | ||
| I would guarantee that we would go brief him, we'll go through it. | ||
| Whether he would flip or not is his own political calculation, so I can't make guarantees about that. | ||
| that he will flip and be a Mo Brooks supporter at the end of that when you go through the details of this? | ||
| Well, I would guarantee everything but one thing. | ||
| I would guarantee that we would go brief him, we'll go through it, whether he would flip it out is his own political calculation. | ||
| So I can't make guarantees about that. | ||
| He'll have to make his own decisions. | ||
| But I will guarantee that he will see the facts, if he wants to see them, that he should have already seen, that prove him wrong. | ||
| But those facts may deprive him of his next CNN hit. | ||
| So you may not want to see them. | ||
| Because let's be honest, this is what it's all about. | ||
| This is people's political calculations and them wanting to be famous and to jump on the train opposing Donald Trump. | ||
| Now, again, I believe that most of these people were always never Trumpers. | ||
| Did you ever really think Frank Luntz was a supporter of the president? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Same thing with Kinzinger. | ||
| These are people in the Justin Amash category. | ||
| And how's Justin Amash's political career going? | ||
| Not that great, huh? | ||
| A former congressman. | ||
| Okay, Boris, real quickly, you're going to stay over for the next segment because I want to get into the receipts. | ||
| Give us your social media so people can start following you right now, and then we're going to cut to a commercial break. | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
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100%. | |
| On the gram, Boris underscore Epstein on Instagram, on Twitter, at Boris CP, on Parler, at Boris. | ||
| Can't wait for the next segment. | ||
| Yeah, you have to make sure, if you want to know what's going on, you've got to get in touch with both Rudy's social media and Boris' social media. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a break. | ||
| In fact, we're going to do some producing right here. | ||
| I want to make sure we pull the email of Luntz and Hunter Biden. | ||
| You already got that? | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Here's the reality. | ||
| We're in the middle of a fight for this country. | ||
| And it behooves us To actually play by the rules, and here's the reason. | ||
| We just won a massive election. | ||
| It's no need, we don't have to revert to outside-the-line tactics, because we can win this. | ||
| We can close this victory just by pressing the matter. | ||
| Now, we have a lot of recalcitrant politicians that don't want to stand up. | ||
| That'll be our topic in the next segment with Boris Epstein. | ||
| Back in a second. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, breaking news. | ||
| I think Rudy's down actually in Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| He's briefing the President. | ||
| There's talk about Rudy may have a press conference today or may come forward and start to walk through some of the details leading up to the 6th, also what's happening in Georgia. | ||
| Obviously, a huge development yesterday on the non-veto of signing of this COVID bill. | ||
| And putting forward what the defense, what's the act of the Impoundment Act? | ||
| The Impoundment Control Act. | ||
| That Rahim Ghassan was the first guy to bring to light, I think, during the impeachment. | ||
| We're getting to all that momentarily. | ||
| But I want to go back to Boris Epstein. | ||
| Boris, people are obviously very edgy this morning. | ||
| They really want to know what's going on and what the details are, because I think most of the Trump followers and most of the Trump base are absolutely stunned by the signing of the of the COVID bill, the president's biggest supporters. | ||
| They're saying they're going, hey, we have to see, we want to see $2,000 in cash. | ||
| Everybody support the President on that. | ||
| But it's got to come with concomitant cuts of this fiasco, both the appropriations bill and the COVID-19 bill. | ||
| Now, the House is going to meet this afternoon and talk about voting to support the $2,000 per citizen, right, per American citizen. | ||
| He's been committed to, the Senate's going to do it. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| The difference is simple math. | ||
| Right now, assuming 300 million Americans would get checks, and maybe that's right or wrong, but it gives you something to put a hook into. | ||
| With the $600, I think it's $180 billion of the $900 billion. | ||
| With $2,000, it's $600 billion. | ||
| dollars of the 900 billion of with two thousand dollars it's 600 billion and that gap you know is what four hundred some billion dollars five hundred billion dollars those have to the purpose of why he was going to veto is to get those Now, the Control Act doesn't actually give you cuts. | ||
| You can make recommendations, the red line, but Nancy Pelosi controls the House. | ||
| They're going to be rejected immediately. | ||
| And the House told you they were going to be rejected immediately. | ||
| And in fact, McConnell and Perdue and anybody that came out and praised the President, one thing's missing. | ||
| They didn't say anything about the Budget Control Act. | ||
| They didn't say anything about cuts because there's not going to be cuts. | ||
| And whoever told the President that is just, I think, giving him the wrong information. | ||
| You can make a symbolic optics, but we're beyond symbolism, particularly if you want to get the $2,000. | ||
| I think, you know, many of us support to getting more cash, the American people. | ||
| The other thing I want to talk about later is this is just another bridging event to March. | ||
| The appropriations bill supposedly gets you to September, the end of the fiscal year, but the COVID relief bill just gets you to March when it looks like you're going to have to do another one because the economy's not going to be opened up by then. | ||
| If you look at what's happening in New York City, if you look at what Biden's talking about, if you look at what our dear friend Tony, move the goalpost Fauci's talking about, right? | ||
| It's only another bridging event. | ||
| So Boris, people are very anxious. | ||
| People are kind of not feeling, because they thought they saw a plan. | ||
| You know, veto the bill, put the establishment and the globalists against the wall, make them, force them to come back with real cuts, trade off that to get the American people more cash, and then crush it into, you know, force Purdue and Lofter to step up and back you in Georgia, right? | ||
| Then have, you know, then win Georgia, because you got all the deplorables there, and then roll into DC next week. | ||
| With a massive following that's on fire and saying, hey, we know we can take on the establishment, we know we can back off the globalists, because we actually are the backbone of this party and we've won an overwhelming, sweeping victory on November 3rd in state legislatures and really in the House and in the Senate. | ||
| So to combat that, where do we actually stand on court cases and with really getting state legislatures to focus on this, because I think a lot of people Given that the veto didn't go like they thought it was going to go, are now more anxious than ever, do you have the receipts and do you have a venue that's actually going to hear you out to actually look at the receipts in some sort of official venue? | ||
| Well, Steve, here's what I would say. | ||
| I would urge folks to look at the issues separately. | ||
| People and reasonable people will disagree on the bill signed yesterday, and now, as you said, the House is meeting on $2,000 per person. | ||
| Then it'll go to the Senate, and the President is going to be sending along that red line that he talked about in terms of the rescissions. | ||
| So that is on the spending, and I happen to agree with you in terms of March. | ||
| It looks like the COVID bill is a bridge until March or April, but the hope is because of the President's historic Operation Warp Speed with the vaccine being in place and being administered as we speak, that the economy will start opening up in February, March, and maybe the next bill, and maybe this is wishful thinking, will not be of the size that this one is. | ||
| Even, I mean, if it is of that size, it should absolutely only focus on American businesses and the American people, false stop. | ||
| In terms of where we are in the courts and on this fight, the fight absolutely continues across the states. | ||
| In Georgia, the state lawsuit continues, and we're now looking at options to ensure that we are heard in Georgia, legal options. | ||
| As I always say, I never want to get ahead of the president. | ||
| No, I never want to get ahead of legal filings, but let me tell you, let me tell your listeners and your viewers, the MAGA Brain Trust, that every option is being exhausted to ensure we get a hearing in Georgia. | ||
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In Pennsylvania, that lawsuit... Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. | |
| Call me around the curb again. | ||
| Call me around the curb again. | ||
| No, no, yeah, I can't get... Let's go back. | ||
| When you say legal options, What are you going to add to these suits that are going to get you standing or get you hurt right now in Georgia? | ||
| And what's the status of a special session sometime this week or Monday of next week? | ||
| What is the status of a special session? | ||
| What you could do on the court side is if the state courts are not moving, You can make filings and you can file petitions that will use the Constitution and the rights enumerated in the Constitution to ensure that a hearing is had. | ||
| I, again, don't want to get ahead of actual activity, don't want to get ahead of the President, but want to make sure that people are convinced and confident that we are fighting for every inch in Georgia. | ||
| In terms of the special session? | ||
| I don't think, by the way, I don't think the debate, hang on, hang on, I don't think the debate is at all, people don't think that you and Rudy are fighting, these guys worked every second over the holiday weekend, I mean, Rudy's been down in Palm Beach, he's been non-stop working, the team's been working, Bernie Kerik, Catherine Freiss, Boris, your entire team, I could name, you know, dozens and dozens of people in individual states. | ||
| I don't think the question now is, are you fighting? | ||
| There's a team that is fighting and you're doing court filings, you're doing further analysis on the receipts, but the question is, is there any way, and maybe we talk about the Supreme Court under Eastman, this great thing in Pennsylvania, because | ||
| Just, you know, what I'm hearing from sources that maybe not totally dialed into the chambers over at the Supreme Court, and people should understand they're making these stories up, they're yelling at each other, I think they're all doing it remote, right? | ||
| Or mainly remote. | ||
| We're quite close to the Supreme Court. | ||
| Yeah, it's remote, so I don't think they're using curse words at each other that people are hearing in conference rooms. | ||
| I think that's good. | ||
| Listen, they haven't stepped forward quickly and given you expedited hearing, which you'd think would have happened Wednesday or Thursday last week. | ||
| That is leading people that follow this closely to believe that they're working on some sort of, and maybe arguing internally, but working on some sort of definitive brief or opinion that comes back and essentially shuts this whole thing down at the Supreme Court, cuts you off at the federal court level and says, hey, states run their own elections, there's 50 states, 50 elections, have at it guys, hope that works out for you in Pennsylvania. What say you, Mr. Boris Epstein? | ||
| They would have to overturn significant precedent in Bush v. Gore, and by doing that, they would actually be saying that the Electoral Count Act is effectively unconstitutional because It is a federal act which applies to the way presidential elections are run. | ||
| So, you know, very tough to speculate, and I'm not in the speculative business, about what the court is doing. | ||
| Were we hoping for a ruling on the motion expedited for Christmas? | ||
| Only if it were the right decision. | ||
| If the extra several days mean that we may get the motion to expedite granted, of course that's a benefit. | ||
| And also, the court can only look at what's in front of it. | ||
| That's why right now they're only able to look at the Pennsylvania case. | ||
| If we choose to bring the Georgia case up to the Supreme Court, which we have the ability to do under the Constitution, then they would have to look at the Georgia case. | ||
| If we look at Wisconsin and the ridiculous decision there by the state Supreme Court, there was a razor thin, 4-3 on those over 200,000 unlawful votes in Wisconsin, then the Supreme Court would look at that. | ||
| The Supreme Court does not and is not able to. | ||
| Look at issues that are not in front of it. | ||
| So the speculation of a broad ruling where they take everything and anything related to the election, I disagree with it because that is not how the Supreme Court operates. | ||
| That's part of my background in constitutional law. | ||
| I'll tell you that, and studied this extensively at Georgetown, that this is not the way the court conducts its business. | ||
| They have to look at cases that are in front of it. | ||
| That goes back to Marbury v. Madison under Marshall. | ||
| So that's where we stand. | ||
| Pennsylvania That case, I do feel confident we'll hear back on the motion expedite shortly. | ||
| I think it's a strong case. | ||
| It's a robust case. | ||
| It's probably our strongest filing. | ||
| Well, it's actually the first direct filing by President Trump and his campaign in front of the Supreme Court. | ||
| But it's only the strongest of the cases that's been in front of the high court. | ||
| Georgia will continue to battle. | ||
| Wisconsin, there's a ton of movement on the legal front in Wisconsin. | ||
| Both on the federal court case and on the state court case. | ||
| Boris, can we have you hang over just for a few minutes in the next section? | ||
| I know you're pressed for time, but just in 30 seconds we've got in this segment, of the 200,000 plus I see and definitely can find that you're challenging, because normally it's 15 to 20,000. | ||
| You're saying it's 180 to 200,000 over. | ||
| Of those, you've been working on that for 10 days. | ||
| Just a guesstimate. | ||
| Where do you think we stand of being able to prove that those votes were illegal? | ||
| Is it 25,000? | ||
| Is it 50,000? | ||
| Is it 100,000? | ||
| Is it 150,000? | ||
| Just a range. | ||
| In terms of the indefinitely confined, 208,000 indefinitely confined votes in Wisconsin, I believe that we are at about 25 to 30 percent falsification rate on those, which is about 50,000, which is way above the 20,000 Difference in Wisconsin. | ||
| Okay, hang on for a second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Boris Epstein, Rudy's deputy on all the legal front and all this investigation is going to join us. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return on War Room Pandemic in just a moment. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back to the War Room, the place where you get the signal, not the noise. | ||
| And the question is right now, is this noise or is it signal? | ||
| Is this moving? | ||
| Is this going to actually change things? | ||
| I mean, it's pretty evident when you look at the evidence in the verticals of just good old-fashioned illegal voting. | ||
| The second vertical, which is hundreds of thousands of these states. | ||
| The second, which is this mail-in ballots. | ||
| Just leave the constitutionality aside. | ||
| I'm talking about the chain of custody of these ballots. | ||
| The complete fraud that much of this voting was. | ||
| And then you look at the third, which I've always said is kind of a longer term investigation, and that is on Dominion Systems and Smartmatic, to find out what the real facts are and to have real professionals go through it in detail, because that's quite a complicated Topic as I brother and the other conservative outlets having to walk back and put up the very embarrassing disclaimer now from Smartmatic, their little advertisement, can attest to. | ||
| I want to go back to Boris. | ||
| So Boris, here's the question. | ||
| Is not whether you have the evidence but it's right now we got guys like Gluntz and Kinzinger and it which is I realize there's just a Greek course of negativity all the time right so I don't want to hold those guys out as anything special but I want to put that as a kind of Greek course. | ||
| Is there a real path given the courts have been very hesitant and reticent and this is why I go back to just to make sure that we're ahead of this. | ||
| The Supreme Court, if they were going to give expedited hearing, I think you would have heard something last week to get everybody properly, you know, the briefs ready, lay out a table for the arguments. | ||
| It's pretty obvious, I think, and look, I'm not a constitutional lawyer, but it's pretty obvious to people that watch this closely. | ||
| That Roberts wants no piece of this. | ||
| He wants no part of this. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He wants to avoid this. | ||
| He's been trying to avoid this from the beginning. | ||
| And you need four, I think, four justices to step up and say we ought to do this. | ||
| I believe that there is an intense debate internally at the Supreme Court right now. | ||
| And I believe that they are actually working on an opinion that's going to come out on your expedited. | ||
| And I think right now, Unless there's some, you know, something that it just doesn't feel like where the court's going, they're going to shut this process down with an opinion that's going to come out and say, hey, look, you know, sorry, not sorry. | ||
| We're just not going to get involved in this. | ||
| And that's going to put it back to where I've said it's got to be at the beginning in the state legislatures and these ones that are controlled by Republicans and have Republican governors. | ||
| So what is it on process? | ||
| So, several things there, Steve. | ||
| more and more frustrated. I understand you got Cleta Mitchell, you're adding to these lawsuits. We're gonna have Phil Klein up at the top of the hour to go through his stuff, his material. But what makes you feel confident with ten days to go that the courts are even a venue at all other than just increasing frustration, increasing spending time and resources? So, several things there, Steve. | ||
| On the courts, we do not know how the Supreme Court is going to come out. You're right. | ||
| There's, of course, a chance the Supreme Court comes out and says that on this specific issue, because again, the only rule on what's in front of them, that they are not going to grant the motion expedite. | ||
| And they turned down cert, which means that we did not get four justices after the president appointed three of them. | ||
| We didn't get four justices to take up this very vital issue of the Article 2 failures of this election, which means that clerks, secretaries of state, governors, So, if we don't get those, I want to tell your viewers, tell your listeners, that is not the end of the day for us. | ||
| If the Supreme Court says, you know what? | ||
| Not my circus, not my monkey. | ||
| If that's the case, we continue to press on the legislatures, and then remember the constitutional process. | ||
| Under the 12th Amendment, On January 6th, which is a date actually set by the Electoral Count Act, but under the 12th Amendment, the Vice President, as President of the Senate, conducts the joint session, presides over the joint session of Congress, which is where electoral votes are opened and they are counted. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Again, remember, and so vital for your viewers and your listeners to remember, that the Trump electors were sent on December 14th, two weeks ago today. | ||
| The Trump electors were sent from these key states of Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona. | ||
| The Trump electors were sent. | ||
| So the process going into Congress is one of making sure electors are sent and making sure that all the voter fraud, all the election irregularities, all the election fraud are exposed and uncovered. | ||
| And that's what we're doing. | ||
| Do we want a joint session in Georgia? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Should Governor Brian Kemp call it? | ||
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| Should David Perdue and Senator David Perdue and Senator Kelly Loeffler call on Kemp to mandate a special session? | ||
| Yes, they should if they want to win those races next week. | ||
| But is that a prerequisite to correct action in Congress? | ||
| It is not. | ||
| Is that a prerequisite to the correct electors being counted based on the most legal votes? | ||
| It is not. | ||
| Do we now have numbers out of Wisconsin on the unlawful indefinitely confined classifications? | ||
| Yes, we do. | ||
| And it's at about 20, 25, 30% of 208,000. | ||
| And we know it grew by huge amounts from 2016 to today. | ||
| And now we know why it grew because Democrats were using that indefinitely confined classification in Wisconsin to push false ballots, to push voter fraud, election fraud. | ||
| So that's where we stand. | ||
| We continue battling on all these fronts because we know that we want to make sure that if one of them doesn't work, we continue to battle on the others. | ||
| I want to go, just one last question, but I want to tee it up first. | ||
| In Axios today that reported the inside baseball of how the president came not to veto because of McCarthy and Mnuchin and others, and we'll talk about that in a minute, but it also had another very important article, I think we've got to put up and push out, talked about five trends in 2021. | ||
| And remember Axios, for our audience, Axios is kind of the cheat sheet for the conventional wisdom, the inside baseball, the gossip, the whispering, the campaigns, all that. | ||
| But Jonathan Swan, these guys, and Mike Allen do a good job of presenting kind of what's going on in the background. | ||
| Jonathan Swan, who I think is one of the smartest young reporters out there, right? | ||
| I don't agree with his political philosophy, but he's a killer. | ||
| He says in his trends, he actually takes Biden and says, look, This guy's on a lonely island right now with very little kind of backup. | ||
| And what he's implying and kind of stating so much is that the case has been made so overwhelmingly, even with the oligarch suppression in Silicon Valley and the media suppression that's calling it baseless, no evidence. | ||
| This is Trump's fantasy. | ||
| This is he's guilty of sedition. | ||
| That anybody's talking about this is guilty of sedition. | ||
| That he even admits That Biden's been backed into a corner because of this, of the illegitimacy and the illegality. | ||
| And yes, YouTube, I understand the 8th, the Safe Harbor, and I understand also the Electoral College, but that's not actually the point. | ||
| The point is this is like, that's like the Warren Commission, and now we're into with the House investigation 14 years later where they reverse that. | ||
| This is the reality, but Is the thinking of you and Rudy and the team that you actually can get to the six and have a fully vetted and actually Pence can have the details if somewhere along that way, whether Wisconsin with the ICs, whether Arizona with the illegal voting, or the Maricopa County subpoena that they're fighting about being enforced, or Georgia with both the | ||
| Illegal votes of 400,000 and the other 600,000 of the mail-in ballots that have no chain of custody and that Georgia Star continues every day to say, hey, the records aren't even there, they're not even sending them forward. | ||
| Do you believe that you need at least one of those state legislatures to meet and actually give an official formal venue where Democrats in the media get a shot I believe we have to fight for the venue. | ||
| I believe we have to call for the venue. | ||
| I believe we've had a lot of these hearings in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan. | ||
| But if it doesn't happen, you just roll into the 6th and it'll happen then. | ||
| I believe we have to fight for the venue. | ||
| I believe we have to call for the venue. | ||
| I believe we've had a lot of these hearings in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan. | ||
| I believe we have to put the information out publicly as we've been doing. | ||
| But I do not believe that a special session in any of the states is a prerequisite To the correct electors being counted or not counted on January 6th and the correct president being inaugurated on January 20th if a decision on which candidate got the most electoral votes is made by then. | ||
| The Constitution, you know, actually one thing I agree with Congressman Kinzinger on is the Constitution does have guardrails. | ||
| It has rules. | ||
| It has processes. | ||
| Then it's got processes for who counts the electoral votes, got processes for how inauguration works, and what happens if there's not a president who's been selected based on the most electoral votes, which are based on most legal votes. | ||
| So we are following the Constitution here and not following the hysteria from most of the mainstream media, and frankly, the never-Trump Republicans who were never a part of the MAGA agenda to begin with. | ||
| Okay, this gets to the point of some of the people that want to color outside the lines. | ||
| If you've got the Constitution on your side, and I think the frustration, the building frustration of the war room pandemic, possibly, and just the broader Trump movement overall, is that they've listened to you, they've listened to Rudy, they've looked at the details, they've read the Navarro report, The Immaculate Deception, they've gone through Jack Maxey's, the guys over in Switzerland that go through them. | ||
| They have gone chapter and verse. | ||
| We've put the information out there that said you need to know the details, you've got to read it. | ||
| They've read everything, they know it chapter and verse. | ||
| They know the verticals, they know the illegal votes, they know it all. | ||
| And the question they have is, given that the Constitution is obviously on our side, given the fact that we've got the evidence, how do we not have official, formal venue to present this at? | ||
| And how could we possibly be rolling into Washington D.C. | ||
| on the 6th, and I think that builds up the frustration of those voices saying, hey, we tried the standard method, and the standard method didn't even get us a venue or a hearing or anything like that. | ||
| Maybe we try unconventional. | ||
| Right, and I'm not saying that frustration is justified, but here my point is that if the evidence is so overwhelming from the Trump basis perspective, why can't we even get, even the hatred they have of Trump, just to keep the system so it survives, why can't you get a venue? | ||
| Well, Steve, let me say this to those who are deeply frustrated. | ||
| We do have to stay within the larger, broader system of government, right? | ||
| And Americans talk with our votes. | ||
| So if you don't like what Brian Kemp has been doing in Georgia, well, you have an opportunity to either recall him or you have an opportunity to vote against him in the future. | ||
| Same with Ducey. | ||
| Same with any Republican legislators, any Republican governors. | ||
| We, as Americans, we speak with our votes. | ||
| And right now, it is absolutely the duty of Americans to make it clear, peacefully clear, to their elected officials in Georgia, in Arizona, in Wisconsin, in Michigan, in Nevada, in Pennsylvania, that they want their elected officials to conduct these special hearings, special sessions, in order to make sure the right electorate is chosen. | ||
| Yeah, last thing, you've got 30 seconds. | ||
| I think the response from the posse would be, we just won. | ||
| We did. | ||
| We spoke with our votes. | ||
| We just won an overwhelming victory across the board, in state legislatures, in the House, in the Senate, with the mainstream media against us, everybody against us. | ||
| We won an overwhelming victory, and here we are on, what, the 28th of December, and Boris, who we love, I don't have Boris in front of the Georgia Assembly discussing it. | ||
| We did win an overwhelming vote. | ||
| We did follow your instructions. | ||
| We did go out and vote. | ||
| We knocked on doors. | ||
| We gave Trump 50 bucks that we didn't have. | ||
| We did all that. | ||
| In 30 seconds, what are those people supposed to do? | ||
| What they're supposed to do is make it clear to the elected officials who they are not satisfied with that if they do not change and change quickly, those votes are going away or going to somebody else. | ||
| That's all you could do. | ||
| The people have supported us, but most of all, let's be honest, they've been supporting President Trump, and that's why those crowds are chanting, fight for Trump. | ||
| And if the elected officials are not doing the right thing by the President and the Constitution, they should hear about it, and that should be action in terms of the next voting. | ||
| Boris, we've got to bounce. | ||
| You're a mensch. | ||
| We're going to get your social media up again afterwards. | ||
| Keep fighting, and we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Boris Epstein of the campaign has got to go back to work. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| You're going to have the War Room posse in an open discussion, debate, maybe even a fight in the War Room when we return on War Room Pandemic. | ||
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| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Here's the reality in Georgia, and by the way, I think Boris did as good a job as possible under that grilling, and they're grounded away. | ||
| I want to hear your guys' counter-arguments to that. | ||
| Here's the reality. | ||
| You know what's going on in Georgia? | ||
| Let me tell you what's going on in Georgia. | ||
| The business community, remember the fight they had over the Confederate flag? | ||
| They had a portion of the Confederate flag in Georgia, I think it was ten years ago or so? | ||
| The business community, Coca-Cola, all these guys said, hey, we're moving out. | ||
| The business community has put, the reason Kemp is in hiding, The reason you're not having these, these, the Ralston and these guys, let me just tell you what the reason is. | ||
| The business community said, hey, if you fight, if you do this, if you put this up as a venue, if you go to decertify the Biden vote, we're out. | ||
| OK, we're out. | ||
| You know, Atlanta Airport is not going to be international hub right now because ever since they had the Olympics. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They think they're a world city, right? | ||
| They think they're a world city. | ||
| I come from Richmond, the capital of the Confederacy, and Atlanta, for many, many decades, has been the leading city in the South, away from Charleston and Savannah and Richmond and Charlotte, but it's become an international city with international businesses, and they've said, hey, let me tell you, you're not going to support this Trump movement. | ||
| If you support the reversal The decertification of Biden, even giving it a venue, right? | ||
| We're out. | ||
| That's the real pressure they're under that nobody wants to talk about. | ||
| That's the reality. | ||
| That's the pressure. | ||
| That's if you can't understand why Kemp is not doing it. | ||
| It's not just his donors. | ||
| It's also the corporate interest in there. | ||
| And this is, once again, the Republican Party. | ||
| I want to make sure I emphasize this. | ||
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| You've got to understand the apparatus and the instrument you've got, which is the GOP. | ||
| And remember, everybody out there, particularly the ones whining the most, You gave this money. | ||
| You supported this. | ||
| All the Austrian School of Economics guys that gave the tax cuts and the deregulation, gave everything to the corporations, which are now by far the most progressive part of this apparatus that is browbeating the populist movement and is virulently anti-populist. | ||
| You're seeing this in Georgia. | ||
| Georgia becomes the reality of what we've got. | ||
| And this is why the campaign has overwhelming evidence The campaign has, and this is why the courts are trying to avoid it, and quite frankly, more importantly than the courts, right? | ||
| Because they're either arguing they don't have standing or it's a lot of issues that should have come earlier. | ||
| Essentially what they're saying, right? | ||
| But in the state legislatures, they don't want to give, they don't want to give, they don't want to have the hearings. | ||
| In Arizona, the business community out there, the same way. | ||
| And in Wisconsin, there's going to be a clarifying moment here shortly, because in Wisconsin, they're coming back with fairly substantial evidence about these ICs, these indefinite confines. | ||
| And this is where it was just stolen, right? | ||
| These are illegal. | ||
| There's just no question about that. | ||
| They've got the social media, they can point these guys to their jobs, they can point them to where they're on vacations, etc. | ||
| This is a defining moment. | ||
| Now, the next two weeks are a defining moment of how we go forward, how we go forward as a country, and what the corporate interests are, the globalist corporate interest, the party of Davos. | ||
| It's not a conspiracy, ladies and gentlemen, but there's no coincidences, right? | ||
| This is just the way the system works. | ||
| It's the way the system works. | ||
| It's the way the system incentivizes. | ||
| That's Thomas Paine. | ||
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By perseverance and fortitude we have the prospect of a glorious issue by cowardice and submission, the sad choice of a variety of evils. | |
| Is that you? | ||
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That's Thomas Paine. | |
| Thomas Paine. | ||
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That's almost me. | |
| Give me that one again. | ||
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By perseverance and fortitude we have the prospect of a glorious issue. | |
| By cowardice and submission the sad choice of a variety of evils. | ||
| Was that written for our revolution or the French Revolution? | ||
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That was written for your sad revolution. | |
| That was from the crisis, right? | ||
| That is the ending. | ||
| Is that the last paragraph? | ||
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| And here's why it's so important. | ||
| I'm reading War Doom in the live chat right now. | ||
| I'm not reading War Room. | ||
| A lot of people have turned into doomers here. | ||
| Hey, there's no path ahead. | ||
| You know, we don't see it. | ||
| We don't get it. | ||
| We're not following. | ||
| Hey, guess what? | ||
| Everybody who's been fighting until this point is still fighting. | ||
| So nobody has the right to give up right now. | ||
| Let me go back. | ||
| When you say that, stop with the doom. | ||
| Stop wanting time to take the pacifier out. | ||
| Stop sucking your thumb. | ||
| Let me go back to Axios for a second. | ||
| Remember, this is a triage. | ||
| Number one, it's absolutely to close on an election that was stolen. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| As importantly, it's also to impress upon the broader American people that this was stolen and Joe Biden's illegal and illegitimate. | ||
| We're winning that one hands down. | ||
| Hey, you know, no doubt that sometime today this episode is going to get pulled down, right? | ||
| Or try to be pulled down by the tech oligarchs and the mainstream media which continue to say it's baseless and there's no evidence and this is just a, what, a scam of grifters? | ||
| Right? | ||
| You're winning that, even Jonathan Swan says that. | ||
| Yes, sir, Jack Maxwell. | ||
| You know, Rahim read that. | ||
| It's from The Crisis. | ||
| Thomas Paine published that in late December of 1776, and we had the whole weekend where we look back on Americans never giving up, particularly on Christmas Day. | ||
| There are many historians who believe That that was actually read to Washington's troops on the 24th and 25th before they went off to Trenton. | ||
| It was printed just 20 miles away and it was written out to them. | ||
| So again, people, do not give up. | ||
| We have history on our side. | ||
| Was the crisis also about Sunshine Soldiers, Summer Soldiers, and Sunshine Patriots? | ||
| Yes, it was. | ||
| Okay, ladies and gentlemen, remember, the Declaration of Independence, love the lawyers that did it, great event in world history, but 60 days after that, as we showed with Patrick K. O'Donnell the other day in the Combat History of Christmas, within 60 days the British landed, I think, the largest field army they'd ever landed outside of Anywhere, in India, anywhere in Europe, this is the largest field army they'd ever put forward to suppress this, put down this rebellion, right? | ||
| That army ran the tables until it chased Washington from Long Island, through Brooklyn, to Manhattan, up to White Plains, down to New Jersey, all the way to cross the Delaware and get to Pennsylvania where they finally took a stand. | ||
| They had the crisis written. | ||
| This was then six months And they rolled the dice on a forced crossing of a river in the middle of the night in a Northeaster, to take on a hardened group of mercenaries, the Hessians. | ||
| Why do I say that? | ||
| That's our DNA. | ||
| That's where we come from. | ||
| So don't give me the gloom and doom, okay? | ||
| They're sunlit uplands, but you gotta fight. | ||
| Yes, I told you, some days are gonna be better than others, right? | ||
| And this veto was, I think the timing of it was not exactly perfect, or the concept of it. | ||
| But you've got to deal with reality. | ||
| Okay, we've shifted now from taking down the CCP to getting back to King's College Choir. | ||
| I'm a big believer in the 12 days of Christmas. | ||
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| Okay, I may have the CCP. | ||
| Who knows where we're going today? | ||
| This is another thing. | ||
| He keeps saying, and this thing is the China virus. | ||
| I dig it. | ||
| Why don't we have something in here that holds them accountable? | ||
| Let's go get a couple of trillion dollars to pay the American people. | ||
| Okay, we're going to have Phil Kline. | ||
| We're going to have Phil Kline back with us. |
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